WEBVTT - Lab 002: Edges Snatched

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<v Speaker 1>One thing we all have in common is none of

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<v Speaker 1>us want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Bald, right, Nobody wants to be bald. Nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 2>be joked on about their edges or hair loss. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the new Yo, mama for real? Like people like shut

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<v Speaker 2>up with no edges like it just what you say

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<v Speaker 2>back to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't say anything because those edges are gone.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got to blink and just say apologies, pardon me,

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<v Speaker 2>I overstepped, like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will come back to this conversation on later.

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<v Speaker 2>We will reconvene tomorrow. But tomorrow you can come back strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you need an argument, wig and yesterday you got me.

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<v Speaker 1>But today I'm ready. I'm ready. Edges missing were rare,

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<v Speaker 1>stiff well edges.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, I'm t T and I'm Zakiah and from Spotify Studios.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Dope Labs. Today we're talking about hair.

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<v Speaker 1>All of y'all's hair, man hair, lady hair, non binary hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of y'all's hair that don't lay down that you

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<v Speaker 2>keep trying to lay.

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<v Speaker 1>Down, straight hair, curly hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Places where there used to be here, but now there's none.

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<v Speaker 1>Hair in places where there was no hair before.

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<v Speaker 2>People have been obsessed with hair since the beginning of time?

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<v Speaker 2>So why are we talking about it today? Well, recently

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<v Speaker 2>we started to notice something different about how we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about hair and more importantly, who is talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see it up for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of this started because Safari was doing some

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<v Speaker 1>interviews and the age old tale was that Safari was

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<v Speaker 1>writing Nicki Minaj's rhymes for her. Yes, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing these interviews and people were asking him, did you

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<v Speaker 1>write you know, Roman's Revenge? Did you like some of

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<v Speaker 1>her best songs? And he wasn't saying yes, but he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't saying no either, right, And so she just started

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<v Speaker 1>going off on social media about him and how like

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<v Speaker 1>he's a bum and he's never written anything for her

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<v Speaker 1>and all she did was help him and everything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was trying to clap back, and she came

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<v Speaker 1>with the ultimate clap, the thunderclap, the thunderclap, and said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I paid however much for you to bring that hairline

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and everybody was just like, oh, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was like the whole internet. You could

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<v Speaker 2>you could just the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a wave, yes it was. It was a gasp,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just would travel through time, and so of

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<v Speaker 1>course we immediately run to the internet and did our

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<v Speaker 1>googles image do Google dot com exactly, and you see

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<v Speaker 1>Safari adding an extra at least half inch to his hairline.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we also started noticing regular regular Joe blow

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<v Speaker 2>is adding extra interest to his hairline exactly. And not

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<v Speaker 2>even just interest on the hairline. I'm talking about bundles. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we got man added bundles to the front. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it happened overnight. It was like I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know anything about it. And then the videos were everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It's blowing up all over Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen those those viral videos man men going from

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely bald to looking like full on woolly Willie.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember those things where they dragged the magnet. You

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<v Speaker 2>dragged the magnet up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>You got mister potato hair hair like you went from

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<v Speaker 2>you were.

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<v Speaker 1>A spud last week, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Like by Nicki Minaj out in Safari right talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the surgery. Then all these men rallied around him and

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<v Speaker 2>were like, you know what, I'm doing a little something

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<v Speaker 2>over here too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna show you.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I feel like people are like, look at

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<v Speaker 2>my new transformation. It's like when the wind blew and

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<v Speaker 2>we saw Naomi Camel's edges. It's like the wind is

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<v Speaker 2>going and we can see all these men's edges. All

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<v Speaker 2>these men are having hair procedures done.

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<v Speaker 1>All these dudes have been lurking in the shadows and

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<v Speaker 1>now they're out in the open doing these things and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>love me or leave me alone. So clear, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have some feelings about what's going on here in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the hair world. But let's see what you guys

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<v Speaker 1>had to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the Instagram videos with all the guys

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<v Speaker 2>having these man weaves?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I haven't seen a lot of them, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen a few.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yikes.

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<v Speaker 4>One dude that had something that looked like a mop

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<v Speaker 4>on top of his head, and he all of a

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<v Speaker 4>sudden looked like eat yourself. But I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>what just happened here? He was stone Colt Bald.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've never seen it before? I have not.

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<v Speaker 5>I have not, and I'm kind of shocked. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know what to think right now.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your general impression.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like for some of them, it is

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<v Speaker 3>just better if they don't do too much. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to do all of that, people are still gonna

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<v Speaker 3>like you.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not think men need to wear weaves. You

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<v Speaker 2>should just cut all your hair off. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>bod man is a sexy man.

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<v Speaker 1>So would you date a dude that got a man

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<v Speaker 1>with no dang she didn't even hesitate?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, I know I would not date someone who

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<v Speaker 6>had to hear unit we've whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 6>But I also don't think it's fair to say that

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<v Speaker 6>men shouldn't be able to or they shouldn't do it

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<v Speaker 6>if it's what makes them feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you would ever get a hair piece

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<v Speaker 1>like that?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to knock.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to knock on wood, but I don't see

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<v Speaker 5>myself getting a hair piece.

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<v Speaker 7>I just have to live with it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll try to, like get a cool haircut around it

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<v Speaker 5>or something to wear a baseball cap or something, but

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<v Speaker 5>I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>It depends on how you do it, what fits your face,

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<v Speaker 3>what fits your features, because it's not just oh, don't

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<v Speaker 3>do it, period, but find the one that fits you.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's dive into the recitation and just a reminder.

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<v Speaker 1>The recitation is where we unpack today's topic and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what questions you want to ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with what we know. And the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>we know is that this is nothing new. Men have

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<v Speaker 2>been getting crazy stuff done to their hair for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that episode of French Prince where Uncle Phil was

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to impress some lawyers or judges or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and Carlton convinced him to get a hair piece,

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<v Speaker 1>and he looked crazy. It was like this little curly

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<v Speaker 1>two pey on the top of his head. And from

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<v Speaker 1>there we've just escalated. And we also know that losing

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<v Speaker 1>your hair is a part of getting old.

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<v Speaker 2>Hair loss is natural, just like hair turning gray is natural.

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<v Speaker 1>So one thing that I think I know already is

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<v Speaker 1>that hair and stress go hand in hand. There was

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<v Speaker 1>one time in grad school there was like maybe two

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<v Speaker 1>inch by two inch patch behind my left ear where

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<v Speaker 1>the hair just started falling out, and I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>what is happening? But I felt like I couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>anybody because I was so embarrassed. So I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, push the hair over to one side and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, there's nothing wrong here. And to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't know what was going on because I

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<v Speaker 1>never talked to a doctor about it. I never talked

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<v Speaker 1>to my friends about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is my first time hearing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I hope you in my mind you would

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<v Speaker 1>have been like, here, put these coffee grounds behind your ear.

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<v Speaker 2>Coffee grounds. Let me tell you, it's power in the coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that when I wake up, I'm dead. I

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<v Speaker 2>know I drink coffee and I'm a functional human being.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a whole person. Not what else the coffee

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<v Speaker 2>beans can do for that two by two patch. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the power to restore.

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<v Speaker 1>It might have, but we'll never know. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to know because I know that other people

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<v Speaker 1>experiences where it's like, like when you're stressed out, your

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<v Speaker 1>hair falls out. That's what people just say. But why

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<v Speaker 1>how So the other thing that I really want to

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<v Speaker 1>know about is how social media is affecting how we

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<v Speaker 1>feel about our hair. Like selfie culture is a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>People are taking way more selfies these days than they were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, back when we all had sidekicks next heel

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<v Speaker 1>chirp phones only two way page right, So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>now selfies are like the name of the game, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you got to know your angles and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like maybe it does have an effect

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<v Speaker 1>on how we feel about our hair.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's time for the dissection. That's our deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>where we talk to one of our very, very smart friends.

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<v Speaker 2>And for today's dissection, we're talking to doctor Monty Oid Harris.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep, doctor Monty Oid Harris. I am a surgeon, scholar, entrepreneur,

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<v Speaker 7>and I like to go by the name of the

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<v Speaker 7>do good hair doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we talk to Manty, let's all get on

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<v Speaker 2>the same page with the hair terminology. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 2>the scalp. Your scalp is hosting about one hundred thousand hairs,

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<v Speaker 2>and your hair shaft is what you see. It's on

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<v Speaker 2>the outside of your head, but there's more beneath the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>Your hair follicle is embedded in your scalp and holds

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<v Speaker 2>the root of your hair, and that's the part of

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<v Speaker 2>your hair that is alive. And really, hair loss is

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<v Speaker 2>as normal as going to bed every night. We lose

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<v Speaker 2>about one hundred hairs per day. But the hair loss

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<v Speaker 2>we're t today is a little more extreme than that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the reasons we wanted to talk to doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Harris is because his approach to hair is so different.

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<v Speaker 2>He really incorporates a lot of different sciences. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the biology of hair loss. So what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>to the actual follicles, the psychology, what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>your life that's giving you stress or whatever, and some

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<v Speaker 2>of the social factors around hair loss. So what is

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<v Speaker 2>the cultural context for hair loss?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, He's not just telling you to rub this oil

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<v Speaker 1>on your scalp and everything will work itself out. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you might need to do some self reflection.

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<v Speaker 7>A big part for me is that I've been really

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<v Speaker 7>looking at how do I kind of reframe this whole

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<v Speaker 7>idea around hair and the notion of good hair and

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<v Speaker 7>really making it it sort of an active and restorative process.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get to do good hair, got to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>The very first question we got to ask doctor Harris

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<v Speaker 1>is the bedrock question. What is hair loss? What are

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<v Speaker 1>the different types of ways that people lose their hair?

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<v Speaker 1>And why do they lose their hair?

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<v Speaker 7>I like to say that there's kind of a big three,

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<v Speaker 7>a big three types of hair loss that I see

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<v Speaker 7>day in day out, day in day out.

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<v Speaker 2>The first type of hair loss is called traction alopecia.

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<v Speaker 7>Neice hair loss related to like prolonged pulling intension, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>like braids and weeds, and it typically happens, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>in the temples those are that's the edges.

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<v Speaker 1>The second major type of hair loss is called scarring alopecia,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's especially common with African American women.

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<v Speaker 7>It's more of like if the scalp ends up being shiny,

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<v Speaker 7>and there's there's a variant of it that sort of

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<v Speaker 7>starts at the center of the scalp, and it's called

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<v Speaker 7>central and it's got this really long, complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>Name central centrifugal sickatricial alopecia. Try saying that's six times

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<v Speaker 1>fast gobbledly. You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Folks call it CCCA.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctors haven't been able to pinpoint the cause of CCCA,

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<v Speaker 1>but what happens is is the hair follicle gets replaced

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<v Speaker 1>with scar tissue, which leads to permanent hair loss for

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<v Speaker 1>some people.

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<v Speaker 7>When I see it, it's like, hey, we got to

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<v Speaker 7>prevent this from getting words because we don't really have

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<v Speaker 7>cures for it. Part of the whole mindset around it

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<v Speaker 7>is prevention.

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<v Speaker 2>And the last of the big three is what we

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<v Speaker 2>call androgenetic hair loss, and it's just natural hair loss

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<v Speaker 2>that folks get as part of the process of agent.

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<v Speaker 7>And so those things can be all accelerated by your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you know, and so you need to live different.

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<v Speaker 7>They're all accelerated by your life, you know, and whether

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<v Speaker 7>that's your diet, you know, whether that's stress, and those

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<v Speaker 7>and we can really have an holistic approach to sort

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<v Speaker 7>of improving all of them based on essentially, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>changing in lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of living different, I really want to know, like

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<v Speaker 1>why I started losing my hair in grad school? What's

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<v Speaker 1>that about?

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<v Speaker 7>When you're stressed, right, your body is basically and your

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<v Speaker 7>head is basically, oh, there is a threat. I need

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<v Speaker 7>to protect myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically what my body was saying was T T

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<v Speaker 1>you and danger girl.

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<v Speaker 2>When there's a threat, the body prioritizes blood flow to

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<v Speaker 2>more important organs like your heart and lungs.

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<v Speaker 7>And so the hair then doesn't get the nutrients that

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<v Speaker 7>in needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Harris has applied his holistic treatment and prevention methods

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<v Speaker 1>for all different kinds of hair loss. One of those

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<v Speaker 1>treatments is hair transplant surgery, right, and that's what Safari did.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this process is really interesting because they take

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<v Speaker 2>this thin strip from the back of the head, So

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<v Speaker 2>basically they pull that scalp from the back. He separates

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<v Speaker 2>the hair follicle by follicle and then uses these teeny

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<v Speaker 2>tiny tweezers to just plant each one of those follicles

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<v Speaker 2>back into the thin spots in the front of your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but why does he take the hair from the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the head. Why can't he take it from

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<v Speaker 1>like the middle of your head? What's is there something

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<v Speaker 1>different about the hair back there.

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<v Speaker 7>The crazy thing about it is that the hair at

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<v Speaker 7>the back has a very special sort of like genetic

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<v Speaker 7>programming to be extremely resilient.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we see common balding patterns where people still

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<v Speaker 2>have hair growth at the back of their head.

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<v Speaker 7>That's how you know, transplanting a lot of these other

0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.920
<v Speaker 7>techniques came into being is because you could literally take

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<v Speaker 7>that hair and move it to other places and it'll

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<v Speaker 7>still grow.

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<v Speaker 2>Once it gets there. It's just like, huh, the hair

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<v Speaker 2>follicle doesn't care where it is. It's just like new home.

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<v Speaker 1>Who this? Okay, So we're gonna take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>and process all of this, and when we get back,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to doctor Harris more about Safari Man. We

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<v Speaker 1>selfies and social media and some of the biggest misconceptions

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to hair growth and hair loss. And

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta stay tuned for this because this blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we're back. We asked doctor Harris about

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<v Speaker 2>social media and how that's affected people's perception and awareness

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<v Speaker 2>of hair loss.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there some type of correlation between the two.

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<v Speaker 7>There's been no other time probably in the history of

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<v Speaker 7>human civilization, right, that folks are engaging and looking at

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<v Speaker 7>themselves as much as they are now. Yes, So I

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<v Speaker 7>started to see a growing and growing misalignment related to

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<v Speaker 7>an individual's this notion of self image and self fact, right,

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<v Speaker 7>who are you really at your core? And then what's

0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.520
<v Speaker 7>this layer of image that's on this and is this misaligned?

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<v Speaker 7>Their aligned? And so as the misalignment started to get bigger,

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<v Speaker 7>particularly with patients that were looking for changing their nose

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<v Speaker 7>and changing their lips, you know, I was like, this

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't really add up anymore for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So doctor Harris thinks that looking at yourself obsessively with

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<v Speaker 2>filters can lead to your mind being tricked into thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually how you look.

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted to ask, y'all, do you think social media

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<v Speaker 1>is changing how we think about ourselves. Here's what y'all said.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like millennials like us are consumed with ourselves?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, honest, there are some of us that are

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<v Speaker 3>consumed with ourselves. But I also feel like social media

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't help because a lot of girls out here don't

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<v Speaker 3>be feeling confident about themselves because they're trying.

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<v Speaker 4>To look like some I think absolutely social media is

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<v Speaker 4>impacting that because I can't get on Instagram without the

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<v Speaker 4>explore page showing me some new wig that I should

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<v Speaker 4>probably explore getting, So it does make me want to

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<v Speaker 4>click and add to cart, it does.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's a combination of self obsessed and keeping

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<v Speaker 6>up with the next person.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like we need to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>separate what's reality and what's not, and what's healthy and

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<v Speaker 3>what's not. Just because it looks good doesn't mean it's,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, good for you to get. In the long run,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna come back and bite you.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think you take a lot of selfies? No,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm never selfie ready. I have a one year old

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<v Speaker 4>and a four year old. I take a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>selfies of them, not myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you open your phone and let us see the

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<v Speaker 1>number of selfies you have? Sure, nine and thirty one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all babies. Okay, let's see I elf as you

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<v Speaker 1>got girl. You only got three hundred and eleven. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>only a little bit in eleven. That's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot reveal that number. Oh my god, thirteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty six. At this point, this is where we

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<v Speaker 1>decided to show doctor Harris one of the Instagram videos

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<v Speaker 1>that went viral of a man getting this what do

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<v Speaker 1>we call it zee a man weave getting his man

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<v Speaker 1>we've put in. Okay, so it starts off with a

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<v Speaker 1>man that his hairline has receded, probably about five or

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<v Speaker 1>six inches.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the Roberts cutting down most of it, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's all down.

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<v Speaker 1>To a low level. And he's given him like a

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<v Speaker 1>little fade in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait, looks like this is this magic marker they

0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.040
<v Speaker 2>have drawn on a hairline. It is, okay, some ninety

0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.880
<v Speaker 2>degree angles here. They're laying the foundation for the new,

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<v Speaker 2>the new look.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh no, I think this is about to be though.

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<v Speaker 7>The man waves no.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he has these like are those dreads fingercool?

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<v Speaker 2>These are silky, silky coils just magically on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. I don't know how they got up there, but they're.

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<v Speaker 2>There, right, Yeah, what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like magic, you know, it's like boom bam,

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<v Speaker 7>I've looked out like whoa. I think it starts to

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<v Speaker 7>feed some degree of self divisiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that self image rss a self fat thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you see that flower crown, you don't have those sparkles,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have glitter raining down on you. Your chin

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<v Speaker 1>ain't that plenty, your eyes aren't that big.

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<v Speaker 2>And the whites are definitely not that bright. Mostly all

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<v Speaker 2>out here looking jaundice.

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<v Speaker 1>All this talk about self perception and aspirations to look

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<v Speaker 1>like someone else is making me think of someone who

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of girls wanted to look like back when

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<v Speaker 1>we were growing up. Do you think you can guess who?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hard to know who you're talking about. It's Brandy.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy had those box braids and I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>my style.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be her. I want that burn those ends,

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<v Speaker 1>burn the ends. I want a short bob, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to put it up in a ponytail. Where's Dion Moesha

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<v Speaker 1>sing it Tuta eat Tuta Moosha. When Brandy first came

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<v Speaker 1>out and she had all those braids, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down in the shop and my hair braided, having

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<v Speaker 1>my cousin braid my hair. I was getting crochet braids.

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<v Speaker 2>And recently, you know, now we can kind of we

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<v Speaker 2>have the devices to help us see those high resolution photos.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying those were wigs, And I said, Brandy, you

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<v Speaker 2>have lied to us because all of us lost our edges. Meanwhile,

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.800
<v Speaker 2>she has a full head of hair. Take those micro

0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.440
<v Speaker 2>braids off every night exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, and so that brings up a really

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<v Speaker 7>big point. And that and that, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the whole thing about deception, you know, deception and costumes.

0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 7>As we look at celebrity, right, majority of celebrity, a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of that's costume.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy knew her hair was amazing, Okay, but it had

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<v Speaker 2>to be. She was on TV in our living rooms

0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.840
<v Speaker 2>every week. But now everybody's living their life in the

0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.680
<v Speaker 2>public eye. We're taking selfies constantly, and so now everybody's

0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.440
<v Speaker 2>feeling that same pressure. Now we all got to be

0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.200
<v Speaker 2>out here like Moesha exactly without a hair out of place.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't live up to that. It's like you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to look like you have a million dollar hairstyle, but

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<v Speaker 2>not that you put any effort into it.

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. You're supposed to just wake up like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not the case. It's not and you learned

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<v Speaker 2>that from early age, Like because I didn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>relaxer early on. It will be like, no, you can't

0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:44.560
<v Speaker 2>play out there, don't sweat your hair out. Don't sweat

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<v Speaker 2>your hair out, right, So what's that telling me? That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I don't like to exercise?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of kind of, maybe that's what that's what we'll

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<v Speaker 1>say you need too, it's because I don't want to

0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:02.920
<v Speaker 1>sweat my hair out. Before we left, we really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to know if there were any common misconceptions about hair

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<v Speaker 1>care or hair loss.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's probably biggest misconception. It just clicked, this notion of

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<v Speaker 7>the protective hairstyles.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, this is a problem. A protected style is

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<v Speaker 1>a technique to stop your hair from breaking and maintaining

0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the health of your hair. You do this by braiding

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.560
<v Speaker 1>your hair and usually putting on a weave or a wig,

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<v Speaker 1>or just wearing your hair in that braided style.

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<v Speaker 2>But people are attributing everything to protective styles. My hair

0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.159
<v Speaker 2>is shiny because of my protective style. My hair is

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.399
<v Speaker 2>long because of my protective style. I gotta raise it

0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.000
<v Speaker 2>my job because of my protective style.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm not saying there isn't a sort of a

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<v Speaker 7>space for it, but it tends to be a limited,

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<v Speaker 7>very circumscribed space. And folks, unfortunately have expanded this idea

0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.840
<v Speaker 7>of protective styles in manners where they ultimately become harmful.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's protected for five weeks, but not five years.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't seen your own scalp in that long,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to ask yourself some questions.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a kia. I can think of a time

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<v Speaker 1>where you did something to your hair in the name

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<v Speaker 1>of hair care. Yes, I think the people need to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, everybody gather around the fireside, okay, because let me

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 2>tell you a tale as old as time, and it

0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.680
<v Speaker 2>is when your friends try to help you out.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gonna try and blame me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not blaming t T. I should have known not

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<v Speaker 2>to trust her, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>T T.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to this hair shop where she was getting You

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<v Speaker 2>used to get that whip shay butter. Yes, it was

0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.200
<v Speaker 2>so good, and you always give me some. And you said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>but the lady told me about this hair mask that

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 2>they have, and you were like, it's a banana egg,

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 2>some oil and you blend it all together, or you

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 2>mix it all together and you put it on your

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<v Speaker 2>hair and you let it sit and then you wash

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 2>it out right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to preface this story because that

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<v Speaker 1>was very accurate the way you said it.

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<v Speaker 2>I never told you to do it. Yes, you never said,

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<v Speaker 2>but you said proceed. She transferred the information, and thinking

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.199
<v Speaker 2>that this was a credible source, I said, I have

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 2>those things at my house, right, got a very right

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.560
<v Speaker 2>banana Okay, well, saving it for banana bread. Little did

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I know that's what I was making in my hair.

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I mixed that stuff together. I mashed it up with

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<v Speaker 2>a fork. I'm in my I was in my bathroom

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, yes, because when I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>put this stuff on, I put a little shower cap on.

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Because back then the YouTubers were telling us that you

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.520
<v Speaker 2>need to basically collect greenhouse gases to really let stuff

0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 2>penetrate into the cuticle of the hair. Okay, So I

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:37.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm gonna put this stuff on. I put

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<v Speaker 2>that little shower cap little like from a hotel shower

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<v Speaker 2>cap I let it sit. I said, oh, yes, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hoo, gonna be shiny when I take this off.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, all right, I gotta get this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff out of my hair. So I rinsed it and

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<v Speaker 2>I got the shower. This was on my natural hair journey,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, huh, still got some little chunks

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<v Speaker 2>in here. I'm like, I'm it's probably the water is

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<v Speaker 2>not hot enough. So I get back in the shower.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna really get this stuff out of here now.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really think about what I was doing, because

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<v Speaker 2>basically what I had done was I'd already had all

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<v Speaker 2>the ingredients for banana bread and then I just turned

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<v Speaker 2>the oven on, right, I turned the temperature of the

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<v Speaker 2>water up, I just turned the oven off, and I

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<v Speaker 2>basically baked the cake.

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<v Speaker 1>So Midro, I have to go to the lab the

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<v Speaker 1>next day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm texting TT like, girl, I don't know, I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>having a hard time getting this stuff out, and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure to be fine. I was like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do one more washing. That's it, because I'm tired. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to bed. So I go to work the next

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<v Speaker 2>day and I'm just like, is all the banana stuff out?

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<v Speaker 2>Tt you came by the lab, what did you see.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day? She makes it sound like she was

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<v Speaker 1>very pleasant. When she asked me. She wasn't okay. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>this banana is still in my hair. I was she

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<v Speaker 1>was living and I said, okay, well, let me come look.

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<v Speaker 1>Her lab was right across the street from my lab.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get over there, and when I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>from down the hall, I could see this banana. She

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<v Speaker 1>had banana chunks in her hair. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, She's gonna kill me if I say

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<v Speaker 1>I could see this banana. So I'm like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a little bit in there. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to pick up out, but there's millions of

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<v Speaker 1>banana pieces in her hair.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you embarrassed like that, you lash out

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<v Speaker 2>at the ones you love. I was very upset with

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<v Speaker 2>T and I was like, you told me that this

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<v Speaker 2>was work. You told me that this was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I didn't tell you anything. I told

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<v Speaker 1>you with somebody else that told.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, so be careful of the messenger. Don't let any people.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gonna kill the Messenger. I definitely was ready to

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<v Speaker 1>kill the messenger that day. I was just embarrassed. I

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<v Speaker 1>was hurt, but it was fine. You know, you had

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<v Speaker 1>a snack if you needed one. Hey, come on, I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting all the servants of fruit. Hello friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it was like my eyes were open,

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<v Speaker 2>but somebody peeled the film off of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Cataract surgery. Yes, I feel like I just had LASiS

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, because I knew hair was important, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even think of it as like how the stress

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<v Speaker 1>ties in all these things are connected, Like we got

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<v Speaker 1>to start from the inside out with these edges.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went straight to Whole Foods after that, because

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<v Speaker 2>what did you get? Kale, leafy greens, all the healthy

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<v Speaker 2>things that I felt like were gonna nourish me from

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<v Speaker 2>the inside out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of fiber. I hope your tummy doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Hurt when I go from this shortcut to a bob.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be wondering how I did it fiber.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Another thing that was surprising for me was

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<v Speaker 1>how he was talking about how with this increase of

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<v Speaker 1>visibility and looking at yourself with social media, that he's

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<v Speaker 1>seen a rise in people who are coming to get

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<v Speaker 1>hair restoration and plastic surgery and things like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just women.

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<v Speaker 2>When he said self image versus self fat fact read.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, I was like, I chill one up. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's definitely things I can do differently with my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to unlearn everything that I thought I knew

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<v Speaker 1>about protective styling and what it was doing for my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, if I get braids, maybe not have them

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<v Speaker 1>in for a long time and still making sure that I'm,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doing things that are good for my scalp

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<v Speaker 1>and everything like that while they're in, so that when

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<v Speaker 1>I take them out, I could feel like it was

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<v Speaker 1>a protective style and that my hair benefited from that process.

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<v Speaker 1>Protected for a season, not for a year. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, no, I have for a year braids

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<v Speaker 1>for a year. I have these people thinking that my

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<v Speaker 1>hair smells like an old carpet.

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<v Speaker 2>Apologies, let me put on my arguing wig.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to get an arguing wig? Still? I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody should invest in an argument wig just in case.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you? Are you gonna do anything differently with

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<v Speaker 1>your hair?

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<v Speaker 2>With my spirit, I feel like not a protective hairstyle,

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<v Speaker 2>but a protective lifestyle about to cut the stress out out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like since we kind of can predict this,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's anybody out there listening, what is the correct

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<v Speaker 2>stop to invest in?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I predict that this thing is going straight to

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<v Speaker 1>the talk. Got to wrap on Lab two of Dope

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<v Speaker 2>Can people use armpit hairs?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? They can use hair from all over the body,

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<v Speaker 7>pubic hair too, Yeah, folks who do that right? And

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<v Speaker 7>then yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>M I feel like my chin is a great donor region.

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<v Speaker 2>And why is it so? I read this thing that

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<v Speaker 2>said that I know