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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, back to the here A Territory Podcasts Episode

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Speaker 1: one nine six. I am your host, Brad Roman, coming

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Speaker 1: to you on a Sunday evening, and I'm joined as

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Speaker 1: I always am, by Scott Coleman. Scott, the vibes not

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Speaker 1: the best on the Sunday night. How are you, hello, Brad?

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Speaker 2: I am doing okay and I would be remiss not

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Speaker 2: to start this podcast, but a very happy Mother's Day

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Speaker 2: to all of the moms out there. I know for

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Speaker 2: a one certainty that we have moms who tune into

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Speaker 2: the show. You all are the real heroes and MVPs.

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Speaker 2: So yes, happy Mother's Day. We were really hoping the

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Speaker 2: vibes would be a little more positive on this Sunday

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Speaker 2: night of the show. But we have a great guest

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Speaker 2: lined up and as always we talk about the good

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Speaker 2: and the bad.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is our job to cover the team in

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Speaker 1: some depth, and we try to do that obviously more

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Speaker 1: what we all, all four of us want Braves to win.

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Speaker 1: It's not a completely independent journalistic endeavor, but we do

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Speaker 1: want to give you the whole picture. That's what we

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Speaker 1: try to do on this podcast and we're doing that today.

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Speaker 1: And as Scott is teased as you'll probably see click

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. We'll be joined a minute by Grant

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Speaker 1: McCauley of ninety two nine and married to day a

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Speaker 1: journal all kinds of battery power. Grant's all over the

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Speaker 1: place Braves Insider, and we want to knock out some

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Speaker 1: nuts and bolt stuff before bringing Grant in, because I

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Speaker 1: don't want to make Grant be subjected to talk about

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Speaker 1: the recap of this weekend series, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: So we'll go a little bit more big picture when

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Speaker 1: Grant joins us. But in the meantime, everyone's this probably

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Speaker 1: knows this by now, but the Braves just lost two

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Speaker 1: out of three to the Pittsburgh Pirates. Not what anybody

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Speaker 1: thought was going to happen this weekend, even if you

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Speaker 1: are a doomer and I actually somebody asked me this.

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Speaker 1: With it up today. The Braves have not won a

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Speaker 1: series in Pittsburgh in the last three years. They lost

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Speaker 1: this year, they lost last year, and they split four

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Speaker 1: games even in twenty twenty three when they won one

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Speaker 1: hundred and four games. So Pittsburgh's been a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a house of borders, small scale, but still, and look,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into this a lot more with Grant. But look,

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Speaker 1: the offense has just not been good enough for a

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Speaker 1: while now, and that was the case this weekend. Over

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Speaker 1: the last eleven games, they've scored thirty one runs. Do

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Speaker 1: the math on that one, Scott. That is a less

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Speaker 1: than three runs per game. And while you can still

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Speaker 1: win sometimes, the Braves are actually still miraculously if all

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Speaker 1: you knew was that being five and six is actually

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Speaker 1: pretty good. But you have to score runs. And we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the pitching at some point during this podcast,

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Speaker 1: but like, it's harder you talking about pitching with a

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Speaker 1: straight face right now. It's basically just the offense is

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Speaker 1: not doing what it's supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, and we should at least be semi positive

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Speaker 2: where we need to be. The pitching staff is pitching its.

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Speaker 1: Ass off right now.

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Speaker 2: They are keeping the Braves in basically every single game.

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Speaker 2: And and that's you mentioned they're five and six over

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Speaker 2: their last eleven. If you're averaging less than three runs

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Speaker 2: a game, what's your implied win probability that night? Like

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent, thirty percent? And the Braves, despite everything

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Speaker 2: this is not sustainable. This team has to figure out

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Speaker 2: a way to score some effn runs. It's brutal to watch.

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Speaker 2: It's just as painful as twenty twenty four all over again.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the solution is. Maybe Grant will

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Speaker 2: have some great idea or inside he's around the team

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Speaker 2: really close. But you know, every day I think I

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Speaker 2: have people tweeting me saying, Scott, what is wrong with

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Speaker 2: know if anybody knows, And it's infuriating to watch. Sunday's

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Speaker 2: end of the year. Yeah, yeah, just pretty bleak on

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Speaker 2: We are at the twenty five percent mark of the season.

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Speaker 2: A lot of baseball to go about one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty two games. Sure, the Braves can figure things out,

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Speaker 2: and every team in baseball, for the most part, has

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not to be this guy. I'm not actually

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Speaker 1: this person. People that listening to the podcast for regularly,

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Speaker 1: and you should be recording. Sorry, subscribe to this podcast

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Speaker 1: everywhere you listen to the podcasts. But if you don't

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Speaker 1: argue that, you should join us. If you do, you

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Speaker 1: will note that I'm pretty even keel. I will push

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Speaker 1: back on people getting mad or people getting too excited,

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Speaker 1: all those things. I did think when the Pirates fired

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Speaker 1: That's across sports. So that was a little bit scary.

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Speaker 1: And then what happened. What happened. Look, we could hit

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Speaker 1: the highlights quickly here or the low lights, so to speak. Friday,

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Speaker 1: they didn't score for eight innings. That's basically the story

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Speaker 1: That needed to happen. I don't know about you. That

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Speaker 1: move on. Eddie is just not a big league player

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Speaker 2: Win on Thursday night, Eddie rounded third base and he

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Speaker 2: He was so slow. And I think you combine not

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Speaker 2: In the year twenty twenty five, and so long, Eddie.

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Speaker 2: I think retirement is probably on the horizon, and hey,

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Speaker 2: It was time, Brad, it was It was a short

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Speaker 1: It was time. I did not want to spend any

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Speaker 1: The Braves are now on the bright side five and

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Speaker 2: Two points on the Saturday win that I want to

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Speaker 2: all about this team right now, that against a bad

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Speaker 1: They can't hit.

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Speaker 2: I could go out there and throw fifteen pitches and

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Speaker 2: swing at everything. It's a new hitting coach. Prior to

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Speaker 2: I'm hopefully Grant can be the voice of God, in

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Speaker 2: the Voice of Reason and this show, because if it

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Speaker 2: say some bad words. And we try to keep it

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was already teasing you in public on Twitter

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Speaker 1: than that, on Saturday they won the game. Scott blew

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Speaker 1: it's been a hero since you joined the Braves. Out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere, and the Braves, if you want to find optimism,

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Speaker 1: have really been able to find some of these like

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Speaker 1: but they've gotten a lot of value from these like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go Sai. That's the next thing that was definitely

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Speaker 1: assume it's going to continue, but certainly you hope that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, handful of really good starts now for AJ Smith Schaver,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Is there a way we can get

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Speaker 1: And I've seen this battle. We'll get to grant. But

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Speaker 1: All Right, you've heard from me and Scott enough on

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Speaker 1: this podcast. We're bring it in the heavy hitters. Braves

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Speaker 1: insider Grant McCauley's here, Hello, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 3: How are you guys? I know we're having a conversation

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Speaker 3: we were all so looking forward to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one way to put it. I think if

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Speaker 1: When you score thirty one runs in eleven games and

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Speaker 1: So I guess we'll start here, like, what's wrong with

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Speaker 1: the offense, Grant, what are you seeing? What are you

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Speaker 3: Eleventh, Well, I'm here to tell you not good. And

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Speaker 2: So the pitching's working. The defense is certainly working. By

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I mean everything set aside the injuries and the suspension

433
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 2: of Profo and all that, but so many things have

434
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 2: gone wrong from a performance standpoint on offense, and the

435
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 2: pitching staff has given the team the chance to win

436
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 2: basically every night, especially lately. It was a little shaky

437
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: early on. But I don't know, Grant. I mean, people,

438
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,439
Speaker 2: I said this at the beginning of the show, and

439
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 2: I'd love to get your take. People ask me daily

440
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: what is wrong with this offense? Like you know, we're

441
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: not We're eighteen months removed from a historic, all time

442
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 2: incredible offense. And even if you want to say that

443
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: was two years ago and things have changed, sure, But

444
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, maybe you have an answer,

445
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 2: maybe you have an insight. You're around the team close.

446
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 2: Is anybody what is wrong with this baseball team? On

447
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 2: offense right now because they just can't score runs.

448
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 3: Well, I know the pressure is dialed up to about

449
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: an eleven. It feels like from an bat to it

450
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 3: bad opportunity to opportunity standpoint for this club. And that's

451
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 3: not helping. I mean, it can't be the only thing,

452
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: but it's not helping. It's been some bad luck for them.

453
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: Sure there's been some of that, but I think all

454
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 3: thirty teams probably go through some form of it, and

455
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 3: maybe we can look at individual guys who've had it

456
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 3: worse than others. But it's got to be more than

457
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 3: just bad luck or bad timing and too much pressure

458
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: on oneself. At some point, I don't know if it

459
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 3: gets any easier to relax. I've never stood up at

460
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: the plates with runners a second and third and two

461
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 3: outs looking at the guy that's about to throw ninety

462
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 3: seven and then something else is going to break into

463
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 3: the other batter's box that I have no chance whatsoever

464
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: of putting the bat on. I mean, it's not an

465
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: easy job, sure, but these are guys that I mean,

466
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: you talk about it being two years ago, most of

467
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 3: them are still in the primes of their career, if

468
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 3: not entering the primes of their career. In most cases,

469
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 3: here we're not talking about an old team that's somehow

470
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: gotten older in the last two years. I mean the

471
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 3: aged hitter in the order is Marcelozuna, and he's arguably

472
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 3: been their best hitter for well over a calendar, if

473
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 3: not pushing about a year and a half. I don't

474
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 3: know that there is really an answer for it, but

475
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: it involves Ozsi, Albets, Michael Harris, Sean Murphy, Maddals and

476
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 3: I mean, these the usual suspects that are going to

477
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: have to start hitting better and more. Yes, you can

478
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: put Ron Lacuna Junior's return back in there as something

479
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: that could energize them, but all of the problems I

480
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: don't feel like you're going to magically be solved just

481
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: because you figured out your leadoff man. The Redugo thing

482
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: worked for a minute. Now it's kind of cooled off.

483
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 3: So that's another question you're given every day at bass

484
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 3: to Eli White, which is a great story but hardly

485
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: what you were planning for. And then I think maybe

486
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 3: the most impressive hitter this year, at least in small doses,

487
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 3: has been Drake Baldwin. So it has been a truly

488
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: truly weird year, and I don't really know, you know,

489
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: what's up and what's down some days, but this is

490
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 3: a lineup that is better than its results. But you know,

491
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: I feel like a broken record, and I know people

492
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 3: are getting frustrated with it. Somehow, some way, They've got

493
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: to figure it out.

494
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. I find interesting because there's so many different things

495
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: we can talk about with the offense, like individually collectively

496
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: for example, like you have your big your big boppers, right,

497
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: your Ozuna, Olsen, Riley, those three guys with Ryan out.

498
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: None of those guys have been bad this season. They

499
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: all have totally respectable numbers. It's also fair to say

500
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: that none of them are having like A plus seasons

501
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: or even A seasons maybe, like they've all been fine,

502
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: but not like tearing the cover off football. That's one thing.

503
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: Your catcher situation has been great all season long. That's

504
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: like maybe the one thing you can say with a

505
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: capital checkmark with the way that Murphy's looked and we've

506
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: Ballw's looked, et cetera. And then you get to the

507
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: to the rest of the order, and like it's like

508
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: problem after problem. I mean, you got I want to

509
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: ask about Ozzy always as much. Just do that now.

510
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: I love Ozzie Man, But even even as people that

511
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: on this podcast, we like to stick into the underlying

512
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: data and try to find reasons. But it's all bad. Everything,

513
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: Everything looks bad for Ozzie. The underline numbers, the top

514
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: line numbers. What's going on there? I but what do

515
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: you think of that? Because like, is there a bounce

516
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: back potential because he's not the age where you'd be

517
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: terrible worried on the surface, but also he's you know,

518
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 1: last year it was just okay, and this year, like

519
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: there's not a lot to be encouraged by. That's one

520
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: of the guys that they're obviously counting on to be dood.

521
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: He's not quite on the level of the other guys

522
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: with the bat, but he's supposed to be better than

523
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: your your your bottom thirty order guys.

524
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he certainly is. And I think that as

525
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: you look at Ozzie, he's kind of he's a unique

526
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: player and not maybe necessarily in the ways that you

527
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: want to be from a stat cast perspective, his results

528
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 3: always seem to be better than if you were to

529
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: go just look at the chart and say, Okay, why

530
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: is Ozzie successful. I mean, the launch angle this year

531
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: has led to a lot of pop ups. That's been

532
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: one problem. But hard hit rate never been a big

533
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: thing for him. His barrel rate, you know, obviously there's

534
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: room to improve there, I think, but somehow in twenty

535
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: twenty three, even with I would say substandard rates in

536
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 3: a lot of the places where if you look at

537
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: save Matt Olson or Austin Riley around Lacuney Junior or

538
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: marcel A Zuna just jumps off the page. It's all red.

539
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: He's been operating on the left side, the blue side

540
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: of the spectrum and making it work. But it hasn't

541
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: been working this year, and obviously last year. I can

542
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: look at a lot of it and say the guy

543
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 3: got hurt a couple of times, the second time of

544
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: which wiped out the last two months. He came back

545
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: because he cares enough to bat right handed and try

546
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: to give the club some kind of lift, you know,

547
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: for whatever they could do in the postseason, which admittedly

548
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: was not much. But not too many guys are more

549
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: committed or care or work harder than Ozzie Alby's. But

550
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: I don't really know what it is he needs to change.

551
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I get all kinds of crowdsource ideas from

552
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: folks about way and he's to swing a lighter bad,

553
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 3: he needs to quit that and left handed he needs

554
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: to you know xyz on down the list. But I

555
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: don't think those are really solutions. I mean, some adjustments

556
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: somewhere and maybe just a hot streak that he just

557
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: happens into will make us all feel a lot better.

558
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: But again, I talk about this club on a regular

559
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: basis for hours every week, and I have absolutely no

560
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 3: idea how it is they fix the things that are

561
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: wrong with them Because I don't know, and you guys

562
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: can feel free to chime in and share it to

563
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 3: your show. I don't know what exactly is wrong with

564
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: him to begin with, to tell you how to fix it.

565
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a bizarre player. I wish I knew Grant.

566
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: I wish we you know. I love Ozzie. As Brad said,

567
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: such a likable guy, seems like such a good dude,

568
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 2: was just an awesome second basement for years, and between

569
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: the lack of walks and that he has an infield

570
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: pop fly problem right now, which is of course like

571
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: a ninety nine percent likelihood of an out, it's basically

572
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: a strikeout. The power isn't there. He did have a

573
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 2: little bit of power that first week of the season,

574
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: but the power is evaporated. I don't know, man. I

575
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: really hope Ozzie is not going to play his way

576
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: into a really unpleasant conversation this offseason, because I mean,

577
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: this team has enough issues going on. Another player I

578
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about, who I think has shown

579
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 2: some signs of life over the last couple of weeks

580
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: but is still not where he wants to be. Is

581
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: Michael Harris. I think we have documented on this show

582
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: some of the flaws and traits that Michael has with

583
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: his pitch selection and lack of walking, lack of on base,

584
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: but it seems like he's been hitting the baseball well.

585
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: And I think if you ask me just blindly, and

586
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: I'll ask you, Michael Harris Ozzie Alby's this time in

587
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: two months, do you think one of them will have

588
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: figured it out? Do you think both will have figured

589
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: it out? Or do you think both are going to

590
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: continue to struggle. I don't think the struggles are going

591
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: to last that long. But again, we are talking about

592
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: a full calendar year worth of really lackluster results from

593
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: a number of different raves, and Harris has kind of

594
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: been this tailo two seasons type player. Or maybe it's

595
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: just a slow start and then he just gets really

596
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: hot for the final three to four months. Maybe the

597
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: sample size is larger. I don't know.

598
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: That certainly was the case in twenty three. He looked

599
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: great down the stretch last year, to the point where

600
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: getting into the offseason and thinking about, okay, well, if

601
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: you don't have Ronald for a month or six weeks

602
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: or whatever it's going to be, maybe give Harris some

603
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 3: run at the top of the order. I know he's

604
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: not a big on base percentage guy with the walks,

605
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: but the way he hits when he's hot, it certainly

606
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: makes some sense there that wasn't the case. We know

607
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 3: that Profar was there. Now he's not. He'll be back later.

608
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: They can figure that out at that point. We don't

609
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: have to talk about it now. But there's been no

610
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: clar answer at the lead on the spot where I

611
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: thought maybe Harris would be that. And he's had some

612
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: big hits this year in some big moments, but you know,

613
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: Michael Harris, if I'm not mistaken, has not scored a

614
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: run in thirteen or fourteen games is one of the

615
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: stats that I pulled for my show, and I don't

616
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: I'd have to go back and look at all the

617
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 3: box scores, but I'm pretty sure it's been going on

618
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: two weeks since he's scored a run, which is crazy

619
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: because you think, all right, he'll get on, he'll steal

620
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: a base, he'll cost some havoc, he'll be in the

621
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 3: middle of some of these rallies. But it hadn't been

622
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 3: the case, and that's another conundrum of it. But to

623
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: answer a question about Ozzie or Michael, I mean, I

624
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: feel like they could both figure it out. Ozzy's got

625
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: a long track record of, you know, being able to

626
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: post numbers last year kind of being I would say

627
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: an admitted outlier because of the injuries and the timing

628
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: of those. But Harris is also prone to having some

629
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: pretty big hot streaks to go on for quite a while.

630
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: So I think they will figure it out. But the

631
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: sooner the better, and they're gonna have to have multiple

632
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: guys do that. Because I went and looked at Ozuna

633
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: the last two weeks for him, he's driven in two runs.

634
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: Folks may not have noticed that despite the winning that's

635
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: been going on. He's kind of been an absentia from that.

636
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: He's drawn some walks and been in some rallies and whatnot,

637
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 3: but he's not been the guy that we kind of

638
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: expect him to be. So it started to get, you know,

639
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: go from I don't know if bad to worse? Is

640
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: it because they are winning some games, but it's certainly

641
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: alarming the way that different guys are struggling to the

642
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: degree that they are, and the fact that I don't

643
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: think any of us have been any closer to finding

644
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: out exactly why it is, or they more importantly have

645
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: figured out how to correct it.

646
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean we asked about those guys for obvious reasons,

647
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: but also because some of the other lookiveout. White's been great,

648
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: I want to say that out loud. But the other

649
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: guys you mentioned, Bordigo's in this. He started out hot,

650
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: he's now been I believe I pulled this in the

651
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: last basically in the month of May. Ozzie as well

652
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: as Nick Allen and Alex Ordigo all have sub five

653
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: hundred ops's for the month. That's tough to obviously deal with,

654
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: but like also, you can't expe know Verdigo's better than

655
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: that for sure. Nick Allen, I've I've enjoyed the Nick

656
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: Allen renaissance quite a bit. The glove is masterful. There's

657
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: not a lot that's there that could tell you that

658
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: he's going to hit the ball at a high level,

659
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: higher basic background basically, so you kind of expect them

660
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: to not do anything. And that kind of gets to

661
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: where I wanted to go with this. With due respect

662
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: Eli White, who I think maybe is pretty good, I

663
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: don't think he's this good. Maybe you disagree with me, Grant,

664
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: but a lot of the issues with the lineup might

665
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: be tied to, like the realities of the talent level.

666
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: Like a lot of the guys that were there we've

667
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: already talked about are not playing. Maybe they're up to

668
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: their level, but nobody, nobody's above it. Oh, they basically

669
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: in the entire lineup, but they don't have the best

670
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: talent in the world in a non Ronnie non Profar universe.

671
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: Is that fair?

672
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: Like?

673
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: How fair is that ground? As far as like what

674
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: this left should be doing without Runnie and without Profar,

675
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Like how good? How good should they be? I mean

676
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: better than they are now? Where we're talking about the

677
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: middle of the pack offense in terms of power numbers,

678
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: but in terms of run scored, you know, they got

679
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: a negative run differential again after a disappointing weekend in

680
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh where you thought, hey, maybe they'll go get fat

681
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: and happy for a little bit and start to show

682
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: some of those signs. I mean, they went to course

683
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: Field and hit no homers in a three game series,

684
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: and that's that's a weird place where you know, stuff

685
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: can certainly work in your favor. Offensively speaking, they lost

686
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: a two to one game there. I guess it's better

687
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: than being shut out twenty one to nothing, but it

688
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: still felt like a like a pretty big gut punch

689
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: for the momentum that the Braves were carrying up to

690
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: that point. But kind of putting that aside, I mean,

691
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: all of these guys they're just having to make do with.

692
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean, for Dugo started out like a house of fire.

693
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: First fourteen games, he's hitting well over three hundred on

694
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: basing about a three to eighty clip, and now he's

695
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: won for his last twenty four Is that who he is?

696
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I want to say that, but is

697
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: he a guy that was about to hit three twenty

698
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: this year, probably not. So the truth is somewhere in

699
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: between for guys like that. For Eli White, it's a

700
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: great story and I think it will be until for

701
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: whatever reason it may not be he continues to do

702
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: things with the bat. He's doing enough, I think with

703
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: the glove he's a nice player. Can he be a

704
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: complimentary piece moving forward? Is there just a time share

705
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: that you have to figure out in left field until

706
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: you answer the profar question, which though actually be quite

707
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: a few for him to answer when he comes back.

708
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: But Ronald A Counye Junior is going to be one

709
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: answer for this club, but it can't be the only one.

710
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: And I know I've said that before, and it all

711
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: seems to come back to that. I don't think that

712
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: everybody's sitting around waiting to get serious until he does.

713
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: But it does feel like this offense is just missing

714
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: a level and unable to attain that level without him,

715
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: and that is kind of a scary reality. But I

716
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: think it's kind of where they're operating right now. Is

717
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, they may not be sitting around saying, Okay,

718
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: well Ronald needs to come in and save the season.

719
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: And I talked about this on foul territory this week.

720
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Maybe we all need to temper our expectations. But some

721
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: of these other guys have to be the answer, and

722
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: they're the ones that we're talking about right now that

723
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: have got to start doing the everyday contributions that manufacture runs.

724
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Obviously they can slug. Some improved approach, some hits with

725
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: runners in scoring position would make everybody feel better. How

726
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: and when will it show up?

727
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

728
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that's at that point that you

729
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: may have thought art run and I saw that show

730
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: about running. You know he's going to be good. I

731
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: think we all probably understand that, but not expecting him

732
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: to be one hundred and ten percent running immediately to

733
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: save the day is probably safe for everybody. One more

734
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: on the offense and should find interesting because of what

735
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: you said before about the pressure aspects, they've actually been

736
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: better under pressure than not under pressure like they seem

737
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: to be in the eighth inning or whatever, they just

738
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: decide to wake up and score runs. Is that just variance?

739
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: Like what do you actually is there anything to approach

740
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: that might contribute to that or is it just like

741
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: because they seem to every night, it's like they were

742
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 1: kind of dead, and then they come back from the dead,

743
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: whether they win or not. They seem to come back

744
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: from the dead every time they were in a close game,

745
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: and that just it's whether they could put it on

746
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: the top or not.

747
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: That's weird. I mean, I wish they could bottle it,

748
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: and I'm sure they do too. It feels a lot

749
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: like the way it was in twenty three when they'd

750
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: score all those runs in the first inning and if

751
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: you weren't able to keep up, well, the Braves were

752
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: just gonna go on ahead and lap you by the

753
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: time you got to the fifth or sixth. That's how

754
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: good they were at that time. This is like the

755
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 3: complete inverse of that, where hey, I mean, you'll take

756
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: those clutch hits and I do think that you know

757
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: they matter, And you can look at my high leverage,

758
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: medium leverage, low leverage situations on some splits the runners

759
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: in the scoring position. For the old fashioned folks that

760
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: just like hits with runners on base can't argue with

761
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: that those are nice. But I just it's a fascinatingly

762
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: frustrating group of players that, for whatever reason, seem to

763
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: be going through the same thing at the same time,

764
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: and the pressure that I was talking about. This is

765
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: from talking to different guys at different times over the

766
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: last couple of years and hearing that, you know, yeah,

767
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: we want to come through in this spot. And I

768
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: don't know how you to use the movie what was it?

769
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: For love of the game and clear the mechanism. I

770
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: don't know if that's a real thing, but some of

771
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: these guys probably need to figure out how to clear

772
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: the mechanism at least a little bit. But this all

773
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: comes back to I mean, they care about the right things.

774
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: The work is there. I show up at the ballpark

775
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: three and I excuse me, four and a half hours

776
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: before the game, and these guys are on the field

777
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: hitting early. You know, they're doing the work. They're in

778
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: the cages, they're on the field. I mean, it's not

779
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: like guys are rolling in for you know, a seven

780
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: fifteen first pitch at six fifty five and you're throwing

781
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: your uniform on and going out there. But for whatever reason,

782
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: the work that process is not garnering the results. And

783
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a Tim Hyers thing or

784
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: just an individual player thing. I would tend to say

785
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: it's more on the individual players than anybody to sort

786
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 3: it all out, especially in today's age where everybody seems

787
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: to have their own hitting system and their own place

788
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 3: that they go and their own way of doing all

789
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 3: of that. But I don't know, I feel like it's

790
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: something we could talk about for the entirety of this

791
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: show and every other show and still just not have

792
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: the answers. So I don't know if that really helps out.

793
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: But that's just kind of the way I've been seeing

794
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: it here lately with this team, and by lately, I

795
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: mean about the last thirteen months.

796
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: All right, Grant, I want to switch gears with you

797
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: just a little bit on I mean, honestly, what's been

798
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: probably the most positive topic of this team lately, and

799
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: that is the starting rotation and the fact that it

800
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: seems like Spencer Strider should be back within a week

801
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: or maybe ten days at the most as a recording.

802
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: We are waiting to hear if they're going to send

803
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: Spencer out on a rehab assignment or if he will

804
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: make a start this upcoming week. But the million dollar

805
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: question that everybody has right now is what are the

806
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: Braves going to do with the rotation? Are they going

807
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: to go to a six man? Are they going to

808
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: bump Bryce Elder, Are they going to bump aj Smith shover?

809
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: Or are they going to send Grant Holmes to the bullpen? So,

810
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's funny. There's probably pros and cons to

811
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: all three of those at this point.

812
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: What would you do, Grant?

813
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: If I said, Grant, you are the manager of the

814
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves, what do you think the team's going to

815
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: do moving forward? Well, it's almost to me as a

816
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: general manager's type question too from a roster management standpoint,

817
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: because they're going to make these decisions in conjunction with

818
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: everybody's input on how the roster's going to be.

819
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: Composed. And yeah, if you're going to go down in

820
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 3: the bullpen by one arm, having somebody like Grant Holmes,

821
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 3: who did play that swingman role very well last year.

822
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: He spot started when he needed to, He stretched out

823
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: so he could give the club some length. Probably don't

824
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: want him to go three, four or five weeks without

825
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: getting a start and then say, okay, well our expectations

826
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: six innings and one hundred and five pitches or whatever.

827
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: But you do have that which is helpful. I would

828
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: not think about relieving Bryce Elder or a J. Smithschauver

829
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: I would leave them in the back end of that rotation.

830
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: Can I say without a shadow of a doubt that

831
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: either one of them or both of them are definitely

832
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: better than Grant Holmes, not necessarily. I feel like it's

833
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: kind of a dead heat here. Early. The number one

834
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: arm of that lunch in terms of potential is obviously

835
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: Smith Schalver, The guy with the most experienced starting is

836
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: Price Older, and then you've got Grant Holmes has been

837
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: a great story and a really useful arm. So I

838
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: think there's a place for all three of those guys,

839
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: even if you decide to rotate between a six man

840
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 3: rotation and a five man rotation once you bring Spencer

841
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: Strider back in. But the other part of the question

842
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: that I asked Brian Snicker was would you think about

843
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: just sticking with this six as much as you can?

844
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: Because it seemed to work out really well for Sale

845
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: and Lopez a year ago, given them that extra day,

846
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 3: and I think it made them sharper on the times

847
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: that they had to start on regular rest. I mean,

848
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: all of this may be anecdotal, I don't know, but

849
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: it seemed like something the Braves have liked to do

850
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: and could do with the right arms. But it's all

851
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: going to depend on perform So if I had to

852
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: have five starters, maybe I pushed Grant Holmes into that

853
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: swing man role because I believe he's capable of doing it.

854
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to mess with the other two. And

855
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: obviously you've got sale in Schwellenbach locked in, bring Strider along,

856
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 3: utilize those starts as you need to, and give guys

857
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: a little bit of extra rest if they need it.

858
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: And in this string of seventeen games and seventeen days,

859
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like the worst idea, at least for now,

860
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 3: but it's going to depend on performance. Honestly, this plan

861
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: could change a week from now, two weeks from now,

862
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: a month from now.

863
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna if you didn't bring it up

864
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: about the this stretch of schedule has been particularly challenging

865
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: with no days off for a while. Also, there's the like,

866
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: what's the roster move going to be to bring Strider up?

867
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: Which is a lesser concern, but it is one with

868
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: the pitching staff where the only guys with the options

869
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: are guys you don't want to send down because they're

870
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: too valuable to you. There isn't this like all on move.

871
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: And then, by the way, you have Craig Kimberrell looming

872
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: out there, which everyone asked us about every single day.

873
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about you, Grant. We had a question

874
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: about Campbrill every single day of my life.

875
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get a lot of questions about him.

876
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: But as of right now, just kind of looking at

877
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: where he is in Triple A. I don't know if

878
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: he appeared in Sunday's Action or not, but at least

879
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: heading into the weekend, it was like seven and a

880
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: third innings at Triple A, respectable era, but five walks,

881
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: five strikeouts, so not big strikeouts, not encouraging walk numbers.

882
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Craig kimberl with a seven and a half

883
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: strikeouts per nine, again small sample, is surprising. Craig kimber

884
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: with a seven and a half walks per nine is

885
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: not a workable number. They've already got Rafael Montero who's

886
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: got a just scary walk rate going on. I get

887
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 3: that they like the arm, but maybe that's the move.

888
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: If we're looking at non optionable pieces, the Astros are

889
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 3: the ones that are paying him. But the Braves were

890
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: trying to find some help where they could and you

891
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: don't want to lose options. That is the big thing,

892
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 3: No pun intended. You like the guys that have options

893
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: because you can bring him up and down. The Braves

894
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: don't have as many of those that they can with

895
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 3: Dylan Lee and Daves Bell, Hernandez and A. J. Smiths

896
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: Schalver and I guess Bryce Elder technically you could option

897
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: him out, but what does it do to your rotational plan?

898
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: And you know they got to stay down for fifteen days?

899
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: So are you comfortable with that unless somebody goes on

900
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: the il The whole thing is a lot more complicated

901
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 3: than it feels like a before they change the option

902
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: rules and be the way it was a couple of

903
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: years ago when there just seemed to be more guys

904
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: with options on the staff.

905
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: And hey shout sir, Bryce Elder. Like two weeks ago,

906
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: if you told me this is going to be a

907
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: decision of some kind, I would have probably laughed at you,

908
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: because I look, I'm a little at Bryce Older for

909
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: a long time. He's pitched well enough to where you

910
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: have to think about it now, which is a credit

911
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: to Bryce Older. He's pitched very well when we shot

912
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: that out, Because I would still probably in a vacuum.

913
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: Trust Grant Holmes more. But Grant Holmes has an arm

914
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: that works in the bullpens. We've seen in the way

915
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: that Bryce may not work in the bullpen, and smiths

916
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Schov is just going to be in pen. I think

917
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: the way he's looked recently, I can't imagine it'm taking

918
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: him out of addition, in times, does that make sense

919
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: to you, Grant? Would that shock you like it would

920
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: shock me?

921
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: It would surprise me if they were to option Smichev again. Well,

922
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: shock may be a big word. It would be surprising.

923
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if I said which one I said,

924
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: but I just want to say, I mean, I don't

925
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: know if anything shocks me anymore, But it would be

926
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: surprising if they decided to send a J. Smith Shov

927
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: back down to the minor leagues. But I thought to

928
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: Bryce Elder this past week and AJ smithshav and just

929
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: to kind of get an insight on what has made

930
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: them more successful. And for Bryce Elder, he said he

931
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: spent last year kind of chasing the wrong things because

932
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: he was trying to recapture a way that he was

933
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: in the past and not really being able to make

934
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: the everyday adjustments he needed to right now. Also, going

935
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: eight nine days between a start probably doesn't help. Being

936
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: yoyoed back and forth between Triple A and the Majors

937
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: doesn't help. But nowhere you are, I fit day getting

938
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: on that routine. I think it's helped him. For Smith

939
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: Jov it was more of a I used to feel like,

940
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: and keep in mind how young he is, so this

941
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: quote will make a lot more sense. I just needed

942
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 2: to throw my best stuff and put it in the zone.

943
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: I'm learning I don't always have to do that. There

944
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: are a lot of other aspects of pitching. I think

945
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: he's really coming along with and that gets me more

946
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: excited about what is ahead for him than obviously even

947
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: the few that we've seen recently that indicate that it's

948
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: in there. I think this is a guy that they

949
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: feel strongly about, so to see him get sent out

950
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: again would be kind of surprising for me. Yeah, yeah,

951
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: I would agree, And you said it perfectly grand I mean,

952
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: we've learned that no roster move is off the table

953
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: when it comes to preserving depth and flexibility. But yeah,

954
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: I really hope. I mean, I think this weekend, one

955
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: of the few real bright spots was just how good

956
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: ag Smiths Shauber has looked. He's grown. You put up

957
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: tape of him a month ago versus today, you can

958
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: just see the way he's attacking, the way he is

959
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: prioritizing getting ahead of hitters, and that splitter is so

960
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: much fun. I just kind of wanted to get your take.

961
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: You said you talked to him this past week, But

962
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: to me, I don't want to put too high of

963
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: expectations on the kid. He's all of twenty two years old.

964
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: But it feels like the Braves have maybe found another

965
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: young arm to be a real piece of this team

966
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: long term, as long term as starting pitching can be.

967
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: In the year twenty twenty five.

968
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: It definitely does. I mean, there's a reason why he

969
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: was on those postseason rosters the last two years.

970
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 5: Now.

971
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: The big reason why he had to start last year

972
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: was because Sale went down and it sent the Braves

973
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: into an absolute panic mode. But it's there is a

974
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: reason that they chose him, I guess is more to

975
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: my point, and a reason that he was around in

976
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three as well, and the fact that he

977
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 3: came up basically two and a half years ahead a

978
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: schedule essentially as a very novice pitcher who didn't even

979
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: do much of it in high school, had very limited

980
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: innings in the minor leagues, and they felt like had

981
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 3: the arsenal to compete at the big league level. That's

982
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: a big compliment in my book. And you know, was

983
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: it an overreach at that time, maybe, but they needed

984
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: it and it worked in Spurts. But I think there's

985
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: so much more there under the hood, and that's really

986
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: what they're looking to put together is a rotation that

987
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: has both the results right now and obviously the sustainability

988
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: to expect the consistency, and the rotation has been showing

989
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 3: that even with the moving pieces this year, even without

990
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: Spencer Strider for all but five innings thus far, they've

991
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: found a way to make this thing work. And I

992
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 3: think going forward, if it's going to continue to work,

993
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: aj Smithchalvfer's got to be a big part of it.

994
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Grant, I have to ask you the big picture

995
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: question that everyone's been asking us. Now, I'll be back, well,

996
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: that's one that I any day now, I'm sure we'll

997
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: see Jesse come through the club. You'll probably see him

998
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: before we do. He'll be just prop in the clubhouse.

999
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: One day, I'll just be I'll just be there beyond Jesse,

1000
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: and I'll ask you in a more sanitized way than

1001
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: social media would ask it, which it's mostly people yelling

1002
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: at us about how the Braves aren't good and all

1003
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: these things. Right, but they're nineteen to twenty one right now,

1004
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: this is the big round number of forty games in,

1005
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: we're core of the season. Then if you go back

1006
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: twelve twelve and a half months, they're a five hundred

1007
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: team now for about a full season, And I guess

1008
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: the question is how good are the Braves really? Like,

1009
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: if you're looking forward, you're baking in a lot of things.

1010
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: We were talked about it accoon, you will be back

1011
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: at some point in time. Profaria be back mid season,

1012
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: all the Strider will come back soon, all those things.

1013
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: But if you're if you're forecasting, obviously a lot is

1014
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: changed because you've you've banked twenty one losses. That's the

1015
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: reality of the situation. But what would you say to

1016
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: people that are asking that question of like how good

1017
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: the Braves are or maybe how bad the Braves are?

1018
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: If you want to be pessimistic like many have been

1019
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: right now, And I totally get that what are you

1020
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: forecasting for the rest of the season, knowing what we

1021
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: know now?

1022
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: Well, if I were to describe how are the Braves

1023
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: or who are the Braves or you know, what exactly

1024
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: do I see in the Braves? They're a team that

1025
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: is better than they have played, But your record indicates

1026
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: who you are, at least for right now, and they've

1027
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: got to get about the business of sorting things out offensively.

1028
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 3: The Acunya thing is going to help getting him back

1029
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 3: in whatever level he is at on his spectrum of

1030
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: being a useful player, which could be anywhere from the

1031
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 3: low you know, or what we call it the high

1032
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: floor of what he was in twenty two. That'd be

1033
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: a pretty good year for a lot of big leaguers

1034
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 3: or the absolute monster superstar that he was in twenty three.

1035
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 3: I personally think he'll probably fall somewhere in between those standards,

1036
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: but he will make this club better as a result

1037
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: of that. But unless or until they figure out the offense,

1038
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 3: we're going to continue to think that there's more there,

1039
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 3: and I believe that there is more there. But win

1040
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 3: is just that fascinatingly, insanely frustrating question to use that

1041
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: phrase again, because they have been over the course of

1042
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: a year now, as you pointed out, a club that's

1043
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: at about a five hundred level, they pitched way better

1044
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: than that. They deserve to have won more games, but

1045
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: they aren't able to score runs the way they were

1046
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: in twenty three, and that is a huge, huge detriment

1047
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 3: for them. I mean splitting the difference between last year,

1048
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: which is a low bar, and twenty twenty three, which

1049
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: is an incredibly high bar. I just thought the Braves

1050
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: could get back to being a top ten.

1051
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Offense in the league.

1052
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 2: And I don't think that that's too much to ask

1053
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: when you consider who we're talking about. But they've got

1054
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: to go out there and do it to make people

1055
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: believe that it is possible again, and they've got to

1056
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: do it on a sustained run for a while to

1057
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: help kind of cancel out all of the questions that

1058
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: came with that first seven games of the season and

1059
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: really has rained down or at least followed them around

1060
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: since last year when they fell off, and we're basically

1061
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: a five hundred club for the remainder of that year.

1062
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 2: After a hot start in April pushing into May, there's

1063
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: just more questions and answers for this club, and I

1064
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: wish I had a few of the answers. I'd like

1065
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: to go down and share them with them, But I

1066
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: don't think they're crowdsourcing those answers the way we do

1067
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: on social media. Yeah, and it has been it has

1068
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: been a weird first month and a half. You know,

1069
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: we could sit here and talk for four hours about

1070
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: this team, but it has just been a weird baseball

1071
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: season so far for the Atlanta Braves. And hopefully they

1072
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: have four games back at home where the Braves have

1073
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: been very, very good. They have been awesome at Truest Park.

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00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: Summer is approaching, should have a full park the next

1075
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: four nights, but an opportunity now four games at home

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00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 2: against the Nationals. They're not going to see Mackenzie Gore,

1077
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: who's been good. He pitched Sunday, So that's a nice

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00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: little bit of scheduling break. And while it's funny to

1079
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: say a team that is nineteen and twenty one should

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00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: be able to take advantage of a team, it's not

1081
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: like the Nationals are so far down the standings behind

1082
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: the Braves, but it feels like at home this is

1083
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: a series, a winnable series for the Braves. And hopefully

1084
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: they can finally hit that five hundred mark. It's almost

1085
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: becoming like taboo at this point because I think now

1086
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: they're zero to three. Two of those were against the

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00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: Rockies and the Pirates, and they just have not been

1088
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: able to get to that five hundred mark against some

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00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: pretty bad teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's been again just part of the thing

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00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: that just makes you shake your head or scratch your head,

1092
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: or scratch your head while you're shaking your head. I

1093
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: don't know, but you know, this is a club that

1094
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: has seven of the next ten games against the Washington Nationals,

1095
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: a team that is I think on the rise, but

1096
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: certainly has some questions about it, the same way that

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00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 3: the Braves do. They're not a finished product in terms

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00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: of their rebuild. But in the middle of that, you

1099
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: got three games against the Boston Red Sox, So it

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00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: could be a challenging week in terms of the Braves

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00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 3: have not really played above their competition and a lot

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00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: of people have looked at them as kind of playing

1103
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: down to it, and Pittsburgh is another example of that.

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00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: So again they go out there and win another series

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00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: three out of four at home the way they did

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00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 3: against the Reds that would go a long way towards

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00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 3: making you feel that momentum swing maybe back the other way,

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00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: and then you got to go to Boston and you know,

1109
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: account well of yourself against a very tough team in

1110
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: that division before you stay out on the road for

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00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: the back half of that trip and see the Nationals

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00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 3: again in their place. So yeah, it's just it's all

1113
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: about finding some consistency for this club and maintaining some momentum.

1114
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: And while the old thing may be momentum is as

1115
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: good as the next day starting pitcher, I think the

1116
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: answer is different.

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Speaker 1: For the Braves.

1118
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: Momentum might be as good as whatever their offense can

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00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: give them on a day to day basis, and they

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00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: need a few guys to step up and play the

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00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: way they're capable of and the way that they have

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00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: in the past in order to get this thing turned

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Speaker 2: around and moving in the right direction to stay.

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Speaker 1: If they win on Monday and they go into Tuesday

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00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: with Schwellen Mack against old pal Michael Soroka with a

1126
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: chance to get to five hundred, we're all going to

1127
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: have the like surrender Cobra. I think going into Tuesday's

1128
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: game preparing for the absolute worst but uh yeah, you know,

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00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to be optimistic at the end of

1130
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: the podcast that has a lot of pessimism to it

1131
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: to some degree. Playing the Nationals in two out of

1132
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: the next three series, they're not particularly awesome, and again,

1133
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: Missy McKenzie, are all those things. They have a chance

1134
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: here to make a little run, and if that's a

1135
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: chance that they've already missed, but they have more chances

1136
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: to come. I think the three I don't want to

1137
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: speak for anybody, but I think between the three of

1138
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: us we probably think the Braves are better than this.

1139
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: Probably yeah, yeah, So we'll hope that's true. We'll hope

1140
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: that we're right in that example. Grant, before we let

1141
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: you out here, first of all, thank you for doing

1142
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: this with us. I'm sorry that it came on this date.

1143
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: If I could have planned around some more success with

1144
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: the Braves to ask you to come on the podcast,

1145
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: we would have done that for you. But we do

1146
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. I know you work like ten

1147
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: different places, but anything you'd like to share with our

1148
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: audience of ways to follow you and all of your musings,

1149
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: whether it be audio or written work, where can they

1150
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: find all of Grant McCauley's fantastic work.

1151
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the number one place is wherever you get your

1152
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: podcast you can subscribe to from the Diamond. You can

1153
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: also find it on the Honesty app if you have that.

1154
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Speaker 3: I'm on ninety two nine in the game on Sundays

1155
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: from five pm to seven pm throughout baseball season for

1156
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: two great hours of braves and baseball talk. I use

1157
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: great as a relative term because it all depends on

1158
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: the results that are out of my control. But we

1159
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 3: have as much fun as we can five to seven

1160
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: on Sundays on ninety two nine in a game in Atlanta. Again,

1161
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts from the Diamond and on

1162
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: the Odyssey app, and you can find me on socials

1163
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: at Grant McCauley. That's a pretty safe and direct route

1164
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 3: to find out whatever I'm talking about or not talking about,

1165
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: as the case may be, on a daily or up

1166
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: to the minute basis.

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Speaker 1: Well, Grant, we appreciate it. I will speak for Scott

1168
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: on on that one. I think we're probably safe to

1169
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: say that we appreciate you taking the time to be

1170
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: with on a Sunday evening. Hopefully we'll could talk you

1171
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: into coming back later in the season to hope we'll

1172
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: talk about some more winning baseball in the meantime. But

1173
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: check out all grant stuff. If you were a subscriber to

1174
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Speaker 1: our podcast, thank you, And if you're not for joining

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Speaker 1: us with Gus Grantcy, you're number one. Welcome aboard, but

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Speaker 1: please also subscribe to this podcast. Check out all of

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Speaker 1: Grant's work. You'll see everybody next time.