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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everyone, Emily A body Here.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to episode two hundred and sixty three

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Speaker 3: of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast. Reconnect with everyone from

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Speaker 3: your favorite athletes to tap experts and industry CEOs about

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Speaker 3: their highest highes, toughest moments, and everything in between. We

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Speaker 3: all go through hurdles in life, and my goal through

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Speaker 3: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours

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Speaker 3: and move with intention so that you can stride towards

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Speaker 3: your own big potential and of course have some fun

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, I know my voice is a little hoarse.

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Speaker 3: I've been out here in Budapest cheering at the World

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Speaker 3: Athletic championships, which leads me in to how rad and

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Speaker 3: exciting today's guest is.

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Speaker 2: I am chatting with Chase Ealy.

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Speaker 3: She is a world champion shot putter and truly such

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Speaker 3: an amazing human, truly hilarious. She talks to me today

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Speaker 3: common sport, She's the first shot putter I've had on

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Speaker 3: She confesses that she dealt a lot with her own

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Speaker 3: She also stresses the importance of being mindful about the

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Speaker 2: On at this point in her career.

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Speaker 3: Chase will be going after another world championship title this week,

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Speaker 3: so best.

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Speaker 2: Of luck to my girl.

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Speaker 3: You know I'm cheering you on, and I'm sure the

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Speaker 3: entire hurdle community is too. Make sure you're following along

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Speaker 3: with the podcast over on Socialists at Hurdle Podcast. I

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Speaker 3: am over at Emily a Body And if you're not

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Speaker 3: with that, let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting down with Chase Eely. She is a shot putter,

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Speaker 2: How we do it today?

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Speaker 4: Doing great? Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: I'm so amped to have you here. I love athlete stories.

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Speaker 2: Here on Hurdle, I talk to everyone from God.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking to a track and field athlete

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Speaker 2: So you're my first shot putter on the show.

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Speaker 3: But when you first started, did you feel dissuaded from

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Speaker 3: First and foremost not knowing what body you're in, like

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Speaker 1: my technique. And I don't really look at it as

442
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: like how I want to look. Everything is about like

443
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: the event, Like I am literally only worried about like

444
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: how I throw. I could care less about like how

445
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 1: I look anymore. And I know how I need to feel,

446
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: like you said, you know how you need to feel

447
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: like and I know exactly when I'm throwing. If I'm

448
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: a little too heavy, I'll just take it back a

449
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: couple of kilos and that's fine. But I'm not gonna

450
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: be like I'm losing thirty pounds, you know.

451
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I totally hear you. And then that sentiment

452
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: so powerful never again. I would be remiss if I

453
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: didn't say that. It is one of those things that

454
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: you commit to, that mentality. Right, You got to this

455
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: place where you said to yourself, never again, won't I

456
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 3: make a team?

457
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: Never again? Am I gonna let myself get here?

458
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: But you had to go through all of the you know, days, weeks, months,

459
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: whatever the period of time was, to get to the

460
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: point where you could actually say never again. Because I

461
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 3: think some people hear something like that and they're like, Okay, well,

462
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: today's the day I'm going to say never again. But

463
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: if you're not ready for never again, not to say that,

464
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: like there's a moment where you can like jump off

465
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 3: the diving board and it's like Okay, here we go.

466
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: You're not always going to be ready, but sometimes you

467
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: need to get to a place where you're like, Okay,

468
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: I am capable of never again right now.

469
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

470
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: I think I knew, like in that moment. I remember

471
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: I woke up the next morning and I just kind

472
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 1: of laid there in bed and then I would that

473
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: was like my moment, and I was like, nope, I'm

474
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: doing this anymore. Like I'm not feeling I don't want

475
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: to feel this way as an athlete, none of it.

476
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: And and I didn't necessarily put that to like I

477
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: needed like all these tangible examples of like like why

478
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm a good athlete.

479
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 4: I didn't need all the medals and all that.

480
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: Like the real thing was like not not letting myself

481
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: be mentally drained, not not addressing like all the mental

482
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: issues I was having, like actually being like I need

483
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: to do this, this, this, I need to talk to

484
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: someone like and sorting that out. And it was much

485
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: less about like like getting medals and winning all this

486
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: and that, but a lot more about like never again

487
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: feeling that way, like I hadn't really done the things

488
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: I needed to do to get my head right.

489
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 3: Do you remember what some of the action items were

490
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: so to speak on that list.

491
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: To like do yeah, oh yeah, totally. I was like, Okay,

492
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: I need to talk to Lenny again. That's she was

493
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: my swort psych and I was like, I need to

494
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: I need to start actually training in the gym. Stop

495
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: like cause there were days where I just would I'd

496
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: be so depressed and I wouldn't go do my lift

497
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: because I just was so sad about like where I was,

498
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: and so I was like, no more like wallowing was

499
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not gonna wallow anymore and like

500
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: complain because that's why I'm here. And so it just

501
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: turned into like this thing where I was like positive,

502
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: like just be positive, like if you don't feel good,

503
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying pick yourself up by the bootstraps

504
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: and get out of bed and go. But it's like steps.

505
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: So like today I wasn't feeling the best, so I'm

506
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna lift tomorrow. So today I did a bunch of recovery.

507
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: You can ebb and flow like everything. And I think

508
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: people have this thing where they immediately go, I didn't

509
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: do the thing on my schedule, like it's the end

510
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: of the world. I should be ashamed, I should feel bad,

511
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: and instead of being negative, just go, oh, I like

512
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: I can't really see myself getting to the gym today. Okay,

513
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: so then go on a walk around the block literally

514
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: five minutes, like, go do some recovery roll like that's

515
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,239
Speaker 1: kind of like what I've done is like I've been like,

516
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: it's okay to like not do the biggest thing, but

517
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: do something small and it's fine.

518
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: H do something small and it's fine.

519
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: Also, what I love about all of those examples is

520
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: each of them, in their own right, can be just

521
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: one small thing. And also, hearing you talk about it,

522
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: the emphasis that every single second is your chance to

523
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 3: start anew is really powerful, right because you don't have

524
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: to let one missed workout one meal where you feel

525
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 3: like you quote unquote did the wrong thing one day

526
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: where you didn't journal, like that one thing doesn't have

527
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: to ruin quote unquote everything. You have the chance one

528
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: second from right now, in this very moment, to start

529
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: fresh and take back the control that you feel as

530
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 3: though you've lost.

531
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Speaker 1: And that's like anybody too, to me, not even just athletes,

532
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: that's just like humans. I think there's just like this

533
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: misconception like in today's society, like if you haven't done

534
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: this in you're a failure or whatever, or people make

535
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: you feel like if you don't do a task that

536
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: you want plan to do that you should be ashamed

537
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: of yourself. And to me, I'm like, no, like maybe

538
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: they weren't ready to do that, Like, so do something else,

539
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: Like just do something you.

540
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: Know to mean something.

541
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 3: So for contacts, you start throwing in high school, a

542
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: shot puts eight point eight pounds, you realize or have

543
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: a sense of how it gets easier over time as

544
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: you gain this strength.

545
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 4: Oh totally. I think it was funny.

546
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: I went to college and I think I've talked to

547
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: this to a lot of Europeans because they have a

548
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: completely different system over here. But in college, I think

549
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: one thing the NCAA does well is like like workouts,

550
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: like building muscle, getting strong, doing things that like are

551
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: applicable to like specific sports or events. So I feel

552
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: like when I got there, it was like, oh, like

553
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: this is lifting, Like I'm lifting, I'm actually lifting this

554
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: great And so I think I just like I was

555
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: so strong, and I remember my freshman year, I think

556
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: I'd peep beat by like a meter and a half

557
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: because I just by being a little stronger. And like,

558
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: I think that was kind of nice too, like there

559
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh I'm strong, Like I kind of liked it.

560
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: But like I think even then, girls weren't exactly like

561
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't like the push for like girls to be strong,

562
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of like new age, new age, new age.

563
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that that's only like two

564
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: years old, where it's like, oh, girls can hit weights,

565
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, like like a regular daily girl who like

566
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: works a normal job can go to the weight room

567
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: and get strong. And I love that because back then

568
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, oh I'm strong, but I

569
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't want to be too strong.

570
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: You know, you're still gonna be a girl. And I'm like,

571
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: oh not never that now, just like trying to be

572
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: as strong as possible.

573
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: Never that.

574
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: I remember.

575
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: I was the fitness editor Itself magazine back in two

576
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: thousand and sixteen, and it was during that time when

577
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: I was really into a CrossFit phase, and I remember

578
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: being the person that proposed and then successfully got like

579
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: different aspects of CrossFit, whether it was us talking about

580
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: CrossFit gear or featuring a CrossFit athlete, And these were

581
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: conversations that were never in the picture for self before

582
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: because of what you're saying.

583
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 2: It's like, well, does she feel comfortable doing this? Is

584
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: she doing this? And I was like, she's doing it.

585
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 3: There are now more CrossFit boxes than Starbucks locations, Like

586
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: we need to be cognizant of the fact that this

587
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: is here to stay.

588
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it too, Like I think I was

589
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: just I was even at like I'm talking to like

590
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: some Nike people about it too, and I said, like

591
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 1: there's a new like wave and it's strength training, Like

592
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: people are in that weight room and people are put

593
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: mars above their head, Like there needs to be like

594
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: an adreas, like it's not addressed to me, and like

595
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: the main clothing companies, you know, there's like separate companies

596
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: for like this strength and conditioning thing. And I'm just like,

597
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: y'all need to like jump on this because I think

598
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: it's amazing too. Like even the gym I coo too.

599
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: It's like an old school like bodybuilding, like cool people

600
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: Jim and I love that and I go in there

601
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like lifting heavy weights and people are either

602
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: hyping me up or they're not like making a big deal.

603
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: But like back in the day, it would be like, well,

604
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: like you're strong, like and I would.

605
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: Just hate it, like and like what and so like

606
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: what do you what does that mean?

607
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean you mentioned Nike. You are a Nike athlete.

608
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: Do you remember what it was like for you when

609
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: you signed that first contract?

610
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

611
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: I've always loved Nike too, like my whole life and

612
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: so like I remember my first coach for Rotational. He

613
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: he was a Nike athlete, a thrower, and we were

614
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: talking about it a lot, and I was like, oh no,

615
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: like I wish, but probably never you know. You're like, oh,

616
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: that'll never happen for me. And I remember when I

617
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: finally got that contract and it was in the kitchen.

618
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: It was in a kitchen of an Airbnb at usas

619
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: I remember, and I signed it and I was like

620
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: crying with my agent. I was like no way, like

621
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: this's really happening, and I've had a really good relationship

622
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: with him ever since as well. Like even in that

623
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: low lull time I had where I was really sick

624
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: and stuff, my Nike guy always had my back and

625
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: Nike's kind of stayed with me through that, and that

626
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: was kind of nice. I felt like in that moment,

627
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: I kind of succeeded for the people who were still

628
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: there for me when I was down. So last year,

629
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: it was kind of like you believed in me and like, look,

630
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: I did it, you know, and that always felt really good.

631
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you signed that first contract in twenty nineteen,

632
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: and then fast forward three years and you're the first

633
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: American woman to ever win the World championship. Shot put,

634
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: it sounds as though that faith standing by you, supporting

635
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: you really paid off all around.

636
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

637
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I was always like worried, like I never want to

638
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: like disappoint the people who believe in me either. And

639
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: I remember the guy that is like my contact, I

640
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: guess is what you'd say. He's always like and really

641
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: supportive of me and like really lovely and I love

642
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: him and he's great and he never made me feel

643
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: like I was failing, which was nice.

644
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: And that goes back to our conversation of like the

645
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: athlete versus the person, because just like with anything in life,

646
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: like there are going to be ups and downs, and

647
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: you went through some very high highs and some very

648
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: low lows in a short amount of time.

649
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really struggling through a lot of the

650
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: normal track and field things. Track is obviously a bit

651
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: different when it comes to how you get money and

652
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: contracts and all that stuff. And I think I got.

653
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: I guess I also forgot like my agent had passed

654
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: away in the middle of the season and twenty twenty

655
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: one as well, and I remember when I lost, like

656
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: how bad that felt because I was so close with him,

657
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: Like he got me my first Nike contract and all that,

658
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: And I think, like those are the things where I

659
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: needed to address certain loves and stuff, and that was

660
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: one of them. And one of the things that happened

661
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Speaker 1: to me last year. At the beginning of the year,

662
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: I had been dropped by the person who was helping

663
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: me at the time. Like, nothing feels worse, I think

664
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Speaker 1: than people kind of being like you're not really good

665
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: enough for me to represent you know. That's kind of

666
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: how it fell. And I remember like that being like

667
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: such a low moment for me at the beginning of

668
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: last year, and I was trying to find agents to

669
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: represent me, and nobody would talk to me, you know,

670
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: like no one would answer my calls, and people were

671
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: just kind of being like, I have too many athletes,

672
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, like I was getting like rejected a lot.

673
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: And then I met my agent now and he was

674
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: the only one who kind of was like, you know what, whatever,

675
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't have any shot putters fine, and I was

676
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: he was like, let's do it. And it was like

677
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: a week before World Indoors and I remember when I

678
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: got I got the silver medal in World Indoors and

679
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: I went to him and I was like, I guess,

680
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: like like thanks for believing me and me or whatever,

681
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'll never doubt you or whatever, and

682
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: I'll like thank you. And even through this season, I'm

683
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: like doing well this season, but like obviously not as

684
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: good as last year.

685
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 4: I was undefeated.

686
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: And I text my agent the other day and I said, hey,

687
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: like I'm like really training really well, like I just

688
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: need to be with Paul and all this stuff. And

689
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: he just text me back, don't worry, I never doubt

690
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: you and your coach and I just remember being like,

691
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: this is who I need around me, Like why didn't

692
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: I have this around me like all the time? Like

693
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: when my agent passed, I wish I found someone like

694
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: him right away. That was one of the things the

695
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: other day. I just looked at my phone. I remember

696
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: kind of getting little tearad and I was like, man, like,

697
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: you just have to have the right people around you,

698
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy to me, And that's why I told you. Now,

699
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I have like such a perfect like group,

700
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: Like my fiance is amazing, the most supportive person on

701
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: the planet. I have an amazing coach and an amazing agent,

702
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: great friends, Like I just can't believe it. Like I'm like,

703
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: the things that will happen when you're just like happy

704
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,880
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705
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,480
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Speaker 3: Hearing your story and hearing about how difficult it was

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Speaker 3: for you before you got to this place, I just

765
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: can't gulize over that, because I'm sure that there were

766
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 3: so many moments where it felt like this was never

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I could probably not even count on my

769
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: hands and feet how many times I lost belief that

770
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Speaker 1: I would ever win anything. I was always like, well,

771
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: I can just you know, make some money and be okay.

772
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: It was just this whole negative space I was in. Well,

773
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: you can just like be like kind of good, like

774
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Speaker 1: be one of the best, like you know, like be

775
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: up there top tens, you know. Like that was kind

776
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: of where my head went whenever I was there. I

777
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: was like, it's fine to just be top tents. But

778
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: now I'm like absolutely not, Like all the time, I'm

779
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: like no, Like the other day I was in the ring.

780
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: I remember training yesterday and my coach like I was

781
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: having a really good session, but I wanted like to

782
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: see if I could like dig deep and throw like

783
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: one in the middle of the session really far. And

784
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: I remember I got in the ring, I went to

785
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: the front, and I go, your world champion, act like it.

786
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: And I went to the back of the ring and

787
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: I threw really far, and I was like, man, I

788
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: was like, who is she? I she did out of nowhere.

789
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: I just randomly to myself, I was like, oh, geez, okay.

790
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: Reminds me.

791
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with des Lindon a while back,

792
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: and she talked to me about the year that she

793
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: became the Boston Marathon champion and everything she did that year.

794
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: She asked herself the same question, which was, is this

795
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: what a Boston Marathon champion would do? Like for a

796
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: year of training? Like eating, sleeping? Should I go on

797
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: this vacation?

798
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Well?

799
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: Would the Boston Marathon champion go on this vacation? Like

800
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Speaker 2: all of it?

801
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: And how we talk to ourselves makes a major difference, right.

802
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: It's that sense of self belief that can truly motivate

803
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 3: you and push you to places that maybe you didn't

804
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: even know that you were capable of.

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Speaker 4: I totally agree.

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00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: I think sometimes like you just need to tell yourself,

807
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: like what you know you need to hear because like

808
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: you can keep things bottled up in here all the time,

809
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: but like sometimes you just need to be like, come on, man,

810
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: like get it together. And I know so many people

811
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: do that as well, Like you know, people just go

812
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: come on, you got this like for anything, like and

813
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: I love that, And I think everyone has their own way,

814
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: and I kind of love that, like is this what

815
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: the And that's that's a good way. Yeah, steal that

816
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: I might steal that.

817
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: I might big gold medalists would do.

818
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm totally stealing that that.

819
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

820
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: So as you're gearing up right now for Buda Pest,

821
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 3: how are you feeling.

822
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So obviously, like this season has been like ups

823
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: and downs because I changed my technique at the end

824
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: of the season, which I think that's like kind of

825
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: what I've talked to people about where I say, like

826
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: you've got to make changes and not be afraid to

827
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: do it, and sometimes that can result in like maybe

828
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: you're not doing the best, but you're you're doing it

829
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: for the for future goals. And I kind of came

830
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: back and I canceled to meet this month and I said,

831
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: I just want to train, like I want to train

832
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: this technique out and I want to get it sorted,

833
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: and I think like a week in I finally it

834
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: was like the click and I was like yes, and

835
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: I like found it and and I mean, I haven't

836
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: really had a session that I would I wouldn't like

837
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: scream at the top of my lungs was bad, Like

838
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: they were all great, Like it was so amazing, Like

839
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't complain about one session I've had since that moment,

840
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: and I just I feel really ready. And I think

841
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: it's also those like mental moments I'm giving myself, Like

842
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: for us, we have a AM qualifying and then PM

843
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: we're competing, which is like not that I don't think

844
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: they've done that in worlds really ever, It's usually you

845
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: qualify one day and then you compete the next. So

846
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: what's funny is for Olympic Trials we've done like USA

847
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: people do this all the time. So like, I feel

848
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: ready for that moment, and I keep mentally preparing myself

849
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: for that by being like we'll randomly be in a

850
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: session and my coach or I will go, Okay, I

851
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: have to qualify right now, so it'll just be like, oh, yeah,

852
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: so you have this set distance that you have to

853
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: throw to qualify. So I do it, and I think

854
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: like mentally preparing yourself for stuff like that always helps.

855
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: And I just feel ready now because I've done all

856
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: the physical and mental preparation.

857
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: I love that I feel ready.

858
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: You mentioned that, you mentioned, you know, being in that

859
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: practice and just throwing really far and being really proud

860
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: of yourself for contact. So the hurdlers know, your farthest

861
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 3: throw to date is twenty twenty fifty one, which is meters,

862
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: which translates to over sixty seven feet.

863
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

864
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: Me and Maggie, you and the other American girls. Who's

865
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: world lead right now. She's actually my really close friend.

866
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: We're competitors, but we're really close. She's one of my bridesmaids.

867
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: I tell everyone that because I think it's so funny.

868
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: But me and her, we were we were at this meet.

869
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: We were standing on the twenty line and both of

870
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: our pbs are over twenty and I was looking and

871
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: I said, dude, that's far as f and she goes, yeah,

872
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: I kind of is, and I was like, I said no,

873
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: I said look at where like, look at your feet

874
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: and I said, look at the toe board and she goes,

875
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And I was like, we throw so far?

876
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: She was like, yeah, we kind of do. It was

877
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 4: so funny.

878
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 3: Wait, let's talk a little bit about being so tight

879
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: with technically your competition.

880
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: How is that for you?

881
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like she's my biggest competition, but she's also like

882
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: one of my biggest supporters, and I think she could

883
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: say the same about me. Like I've always said this,

884
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: like Number one, I want my sport to do well.

885
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: So like when people throw far, I love it, like

886
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: regardless of who it is, I want everyone to throw far.

887
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: But number two like, no matter what, but you do.

888
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: Like she's done her training, I've done mine. Whether or

889
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: not we're friends is not gonna affect the leaderboard. Like

890
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: whoever's meant to win is meant to win because they

891
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: trained right and they got the technique right. And so

892
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: I feel like we've never let like competition limit us,

893
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: like limit our friendship. Ever, we've always roomed together, we

894
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: travel together, like I think it's it's amazing and honestly,

895
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: I think it makes it better. Like I go places

896
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: like I'll go to worlds. I'm gonna be nervous, it's scary,

897
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: but she'll be right there with me and so like

898
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: you always have someone. Yeah, And it makes no difference

899
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: that we're friends.

900
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

901
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: Because we're friends doesn't mean she's gonna throw farther because

902
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: I like her and she's in my wedding, you know

903
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, that's not gonna make her beat me.

904
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: What's gonna make her beat me is if she prepared better. Yeah,

905
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: And I think people have like I think people sometimes

906
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: have an issue wrapping their brains around that some notice. Well.

907
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: I think that also goes back to that concept of

908
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 3: like self talk, and there are some people that respond

909
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: well scientifically to self talk that includes expletives for instance,

910
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: where other people may not respond as well. If that

911
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: language is included, it's could be translated to competition. I

912
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 3: love your perspective and I totally co sign and agree

913
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: with it, But there may be someone that feels as

914
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: though having that type of friendship isn't going to allow

915
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 3: them to quote unquote with the blinders on. It's all

916
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: about your perspective and how you show up to the moment,

917
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: how you view the moment, and your perception then becomes

918
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: your reality. Yeah.

919
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: No, I totally agree with that too, and it's funny

920
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: because there's I think there's a couple of girls well

921
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: where like all of us kind of like sit and

922
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: joke and hang out.

923
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 4: We're hanging out for like an hour.

924
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: And a half, where I was gonna say, you're there

925
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: for a.

926
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: While, Like I was like, I don't know about y'all,

927
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: but like I can't just sit there and be like

928
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: the whole time. I can't do it. And so like

929
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: some of the girls, I think there's like two or

930
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: three that do it. But then we'll go all eat

931
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: dinner and stuff. But like sometimes in competition, everyone's a

932
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: bit different. So when there's the people who kind of

933
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: want to be like in the zone, we just leave

934
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: them be. We let them be in their zone. Like

935
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: it's fine, Like if you want to be in the zone,

936
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: that's chill. Like everyone has a different way about it.

937
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: Ninety percent of us, I would say, we're just kind

938
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: of like, oh, what is this said?

939
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 4: How you doing, how you feel? How you been?

940
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: Like it's just because we have you seen a Barbie movie.

941
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: We're just like, I'm bored, what are you doing? It's

942
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: very that, it's very bad.

943
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: We spoke at the top of this about how growing

944
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: up you didn't feel like you saw women in conventional

945
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: media that looked like you.

946
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: I know.

947
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: We also did speak on the fact that maybe in

948
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: group settings we're still seeing that lack of representation. How

949
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: do you feel about representation these days for women of

950
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: all body types.

951
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely better than it was, but I

952
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: don't think it's quite like where it should be. Like

953
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: to me, people always compare it to like, oh, the

954
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: fashion industry and this sent the other Like, I'm not

955
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: even thinking about that. I don't care about catwalks, Like

956
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there watching it, that's for them. What

957
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about is like they may there's a whole

958
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: song and dance when they have like a plus size

959
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: person or or like somebody from a marginalized group or whatever.

960
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: They make a whole song and dance about it, right like,

961
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: instead of it just being like, just do it because

962
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: you wanted to do it?

963
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

964
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: Like it almost feels like they're being like, look what

965
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: we did, and you just go, well, why don't you

966
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: just do it and not say it like just instead

967
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: of being like, oh, this plus size yoga person, this

968
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: plus size like boxer, look at them, instead just be like,

969
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: look at this boxer, look at this person doing yoga.

970
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: They're in the same commercial as this person running that's smaller,

971
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: Like that's fine, But I feel like when you make

972
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: a point of it, you just kind of like you

973
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: kind of bring it back like three paces from where

974
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: you were, Like you could just do it and don't

975
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: talk about it, you know.

976
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: What I mean?

977
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: Appropriate that the Nike athlete is saying, just do it?

978
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: Right If you.

979
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 4: Think I haven't told them this and you're out of.

980
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: Your mind, geez, available for all of your Olympic commercials

981
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: coming forward.

982
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: Fully, not me being like and I'm available.

983
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: I think it's admirable.

984
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 3: Though I also I'd be remiss if I didn't ask

985
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: if it makes you feel any sort of way being

986
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: someone that is at the forefront, that is, I mean,

987
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: as conventional media would label you plus size. Does it

988
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: make you feel any kind of way being this person

989
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: that's at the forefront opening yourself up to you know,

990
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: these comments, these this unsolicited feedback on your body.

991
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's it's constant too.

992
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: When you say it's constant, Like example.

993
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: Every Instagram post there's something there's always positive people, But

994
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: like I don't really let it affect me. I think

995
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: I've done pretty good because I have my fiance and

996
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: we usually joke about it, but it's kind of like

997
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: always thrown at your face, like maye me like that

998
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: you're you're not the smallest athlete, and people go, I

999
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: think someone commented the other day, oh, so the shot

1000
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: putters are wearing the crop top now talking about my uniform,

1001
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh cool, and yes I am,

1002
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: and I have a gold medal with one on.

1003
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 4: I was wearing it while I won.

1004
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: That You're like I felt really strong in my crops.

1005
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 4: Yet I was like, thank you. It was great, gave

1006
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 4: me good aerodynamics.

1007
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, sometimes it also hurts because like other people

1008
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: will be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to do like

1009
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: this photo shoot or I'm going to do this that

1010
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: never happens for us, Like I'm like, not me, Like

1011
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: no one's ever asked me to do a photo shoot

1012
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: because like I just think it's also not just like

1013
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say on traditional plus size either. I don't

1014
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: think I I like, look the right part, if that

1015
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: makes sense. And I think I find that like a

1016
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: bit sad because to me, like I know that I'm

1017
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: like strong but also like curvy and that's fine, but

1018
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: like I feel like I don't fit the right like

1019
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: mold of what they want to see, and like plus

1020
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: size campaigns, what's the mold the hourglass the like small top,

1021
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: big bottom and I and I have like the hourglass figure,

1022
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: but the top like I'm broad shouldered and stuff you

1023
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: don't often see the apple shapes and the pears and

1024
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: all that, Like you really they really want that, And

1025
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: so you're you're plus size, but you're the ideal plus size.

1026
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: Again I'm air quoting, like, yeah, I think at this

1027
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 3: point the podcast listeners are just like mentally here with us.

1028
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: I also I can really relate to that concept of

1029
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: just feeling like you just don't have the right body.

1030
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: I think there's so much power in being able to

1031
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 3: say my body might not be the quote unquote right

1032
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 3: body by whoever's standards, but this body is mine.

1033
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 2: It is my home, and I only have I.

1034
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: Have one opportunity to figure out how to make my

1035
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: home as freaking comfortable as possible.

1036
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, I think it's something I want to like

1037
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: like address is that, like I was never this confident person,

1038
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: Like I started out like struggling a lot with this

1039
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: as well. And I think if I had read the

1040
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: comments that I have now back in the day, I

1041
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: would have like broken down. And so I also think

1042
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: that it's okay to like not fully have that yet

1043
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: because it's like a buildable thing. Like it's hard to

1044
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: it's hard to just come out and be confident in

1045
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: your body all the time when you're constantly bombarded with

1046
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: like what the ideal body should be and what you

1047
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: should look like. And I and I and I think

1048
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: it's fine to struggle with that for a while. And

1049
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: I did, and I reckon it's only been like three

1050
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: years where I can read those comments and just kind

1051
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: of laugh instead of actually cry, which is what I

1052
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: haven't done before. And that's fine, but like it's definitely

1053
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: like hard feeling like I'm not the ideal. It never

1054
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt, you know, but like instead of like crying

1055
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: about it, I want to like see what changes can

1056
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: be made. Like I said, it's not like I haven't

1057
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: had these talks with my sponsor and stuff, and they've

1058
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: been really open to things, which I love how they're

1059
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: not afraid to like look at look at it through

1060
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: my lens as well.

1061
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, really powerful and really again just so so relatable.

1062
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 3: I'm curious to know how out of the ring, how

1063
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: does Chase take care of Chase?

1064
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, golly, I don't know.

1065
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: Like I started feeling a lot better as well when

1066
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: I got home, because I I kind of was getting

1067
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: in that rud again where I was before, and I

1068
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: finally was like, oh no, not again. And so I

1069
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: start doing my skincare again and I put my hair

1070
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: extensions in, and I just like, I really like want

1071
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: to care about like my my body, and I think

1072
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: that really helps me care about my mind, Like it

1073
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: makes me feel so much better. Like I keep waking

1074
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: up or looking in the mirror and stuff, and I go,

1075
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: I look really pretty today, and I'm and I'm like,

1076
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: oh I miss that, Like I missed when I would

1077
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: just wake.

1078
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 4: Up and be like, oh I look pretty today.

1079
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: And I feel like I've been feeling that because I

1080
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: kind of like was in a red again where it

1081
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: wasn't really taking care of myself again, like kind of

1082
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: and not meaning like you have to do like tape,

1083
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: but like that's something I do that like makes you

1084
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: feel good, like putting on my sunscreen, as simple as that.

1085
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: And I think I started doing that again. It really helped.

1086
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things I do.

1087
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: I get a bit girly. I think that's fine, that's

1088
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: kind of my vibe.

1089
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: It's totally it's all. I think it's totally fine. And

1090
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: you talked about being in that rut before.

1091
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 3: Yes, they are related, right, how you feel physically and emotionally,

1092
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: they totally go hand in hand. Right, So you at

1093
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 3: that time you referenced before, went through a period that

1094
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: you stopped all of these things that definitely had rainfall

1095
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: a domino of fact on one another. So if you

1096
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: can identify, Okay, because I went through this before, I

1097
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 3: know how X feels. I am feeling X kind of

1098
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 3: way again. I now know that I have these strategies

1099
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: in my toolbox that can help me get through this

1100
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: feeling and navigate it so that I can make one

1101
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 3: step forward toward feeling a little bit better on my

1102
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 3: body today.

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00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: And another step the next day, and another step the

1104
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: next day.

1105
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, And I think it's that easy sometimes too,

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00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: Like for me, I was like I was joking with

1107
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: my fiance too, because I hadn't put like my hair

1108
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: sentsions in a long time and I put them in

1109
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: and I said, oh my god, all it took was

1110
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: extensions and I was like throwing him around everywhere. And

1111
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: then my next training session was really good, and I

1112
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: remember being like, it's just the hair, but it really does.

1113
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: Like I think, I always say, like, look good, throw good,

1114
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: and that's for me, Like that's not necessarily everyone, but

1115
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of like that's what helps me. Like everyone's different.

1116
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 3: You know, girl, When I have a tough day in

1117
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: the office and I know what's on deck, the first

1118
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: thing I do without fail. While firstly I have to

1119
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 3: drink my This sounds like such an advertisement, but I

1120
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: have to drink my AG one. And then after I

1121
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: drink my AG one, I need to put on like

1122
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: a good outfit.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, if I have real clothes on today.

1124
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: The athleisure is like staying in my bedroom, Like I'm

1125
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: gonna put on a dress and I'm gonna walk into

1126
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 3: a different room in my own apartment and I'm gonna

1127
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 3: sit down and that is gonna enable me to show up.

1128
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Speaker 2: And do what I've got to get done.

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00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

1130
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: I think that's funny you say ath leisure too, because

1131
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: like for me, if when I get up, it's sweatpants

1132
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: and like a giant shirt like my fiance shirt or something. No,

1133
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: no undergarments, and I'm just dead. And so I told

1134
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: him when I put that sports brawn and like my

1135
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: actual athlete outfit, Like when I have that on, that's

1136
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: when I go, Oh, I can go on a walk.

1137
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 4: Now, now I can.

1138
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: You're a superhero outfit.

1139
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I can do things. So I'm not gonna

1140
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna roll without a bron So that's over.

1141
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: As long as I put sports Brawn, I'm good.

1142
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 4: Like sports bra the.

1143
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: Modern day superhero. Soon.

1144
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: So when it comes to your Instagram chase, they see

1145
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: on the cover a world champion shot putter, a Nike athlete.

1146
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, though, what is it

1147
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 3: that you see looking back at you?

1148
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh, let me be honest, break it down.

1149
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been an athletes since I was

1150
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: like four, and I think I do. I'm always like, yeah,

1151
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: like you're a person, then you're an athlete. But I

1152
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: still am in that struggle zone of seeing myself outside

1153
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: of like the athlete space. And I think it's because

1154
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: I've been an athlete my whole life. I really do

1155
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: struggle like just being a person sometimes and and my

1156
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: emotions and everything stems from like me as an athlete,

1157
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: and I know, like that's not exactly the healthiest thing.

1158
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: And I need to figure out like who I am

1159
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: as a person as well, because there's going to be

1160
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: an end to this at some point. But right now,

1161
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm still in like my who am I? Phase of

1162
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: like who am I? Outside of the rank? Like who

1163
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: am I? Like I try and think, like, well, I'm

1164
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I feel like I'm a really good daughter,

1165
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: Like I'm a dog mom, I'm a fiance, like I.

1166
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: Love all that.

1167
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: But I still see myself through that shot put lens

1168
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: and that athlete lens, and I'm still struggling to find

1169
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: who I am as well outside.

1170
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Speaker 3: Do you think that the perception and where you are

1171
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 3: mentally has anything to do with where you are in

1172
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: the calendar year with your sport?

1173
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean I imagine, like being seventeen days

1174
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: out from World Championships doesn't exactly Linda hand to me

1175
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who I am outside an athlete

1176
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: when everything I'm like eating, sleeping, and drinking track and

1177
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: field right now. So yeah, yeah, I imagine it doesn't

1178
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: help right now, ask me in a couple.

1179
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 3: Of months, we'll have to revisit this confort well, we

1180
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: will revisit this conversation in a few months. And I

1181
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: think it's really beautiful also that you do have this

1182
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: understanding that knowing wanting to know who you are outside

1183
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: of being an athlete is something that is of importance

1184
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: to you, because that's the first step in starting to

1185
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: figure that out. And until you say to yourself, no,

1186
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: but I have so much more to me. There is

1187
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 3: so much more to me than being this world champion.

1188
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: That's just the beginning.

1189
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

1190
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: And it's like I said, like I know that like

1191
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: being an athlete, no matter who you are, like on

1192
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: the certain level, like where I'm at now, there's like

1193
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: obviously a time limit. Your body can only do it

1194
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: so long like at this level. Yeah, And so like

1195
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: I think I've been taught like I've been addressing it

1196
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: more like with my sports like as well. And I

1197
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: was talking to her and she goes, You're like really

1198
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: self aware of your issues, but it's about like kind

1199
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: of getting them out and like solving them. So like

1200
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the things that are wrong

1201
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: or I know a lot of things going on, it

1202
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean I'm like solving them to the best

1203
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: of my ability. And so one of the things right

1204
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: now is like, I I'm a confident athlete, but it

1205
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: wasn't quite coming out. And so she gave me, like,

1206
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: obviously some things that I'm doing that are helping me

1207
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: now to kind of put it out and so that

1208
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be. Another thing that I probably

1209
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: talk to her about is like, how do I get

1210
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: that self awareness, like where I know what's happening, I

1211
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: know what's going on, and how do I go about

1212
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: finding her?

1213
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 4: Like who is she? Like, let's find her?

1214
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1215
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: What are Chase Eely's tips for being your most confident self?

1216
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1217
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: I think one of the things is I learned me

1218
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: and me and my coach truck be and a lot

1219
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: now is there was a viral clip that went around too,

1220
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: but we've always talked about that rule of thirds, you

1221
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: know that one that clip, Yeah, and so we we

1222
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: say that. He says that to me a lot now

1223
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: and and I think that's helped is where you look

1224
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: at it and you go, it's not gonna be good

1225
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time, Like that's not the way,

1226
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: like the cookie crumbles, it just doesn't work, Like and

1227
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: it's okay that like sometimes your practice are gonna be

1228
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: the best or sometimes not gonna get this one thing

1229
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: done that you needed to get done, but like it's

1230
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: not the end of the day, Like it's not the

1231
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: end of the world. And I think that's really helped

1232
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: me like build confidence and being like just because I

1233
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: have a bad session, it doesn't just like.

1234
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 4: Break me down.

1235
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm not like, oh, I just go, oh, that's

1236
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: part of the bad third. Like every time I go, well,

1237
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: that's the bad like I'll just put that in the bad.

1238
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 4: Third category, move on.

1239
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what happened on Saturday. I was

1240
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: I it was rough, I was feeling rough and the

1241
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: session was rough, and then yesterday was probably like the

1242
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: third best session of my career. So it's like it's fine,

1243
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: just put that in the bad third move on. And

1244
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: I think that's helped me not be negative and like

1245
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: really keep my confidence up there.

1246
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: I really loved this conversation.

1247
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: I think there's just been so many really awesome takeaways

1248
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 3: and truly to hear you be so vulnerable and open,

1249
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: like you said at the top of this, like the

1250
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 3: feedback and people being like, oh, I feel that way too.

1251
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: Like it's not just that I feel that way too.

1252
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: I can say that without a doubt.

1253
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 3: There are so many people listening to this right now

1254
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: that have felt exactly how you have felt or feel

1255
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: currently and are also doing the work to try to

1256
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: get to this place where they feel better in their body.

1257
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: And the only way that we do that is by

1258
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: having these conversations in a way that other people can

1259
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 3: tune in. Other people can stand up and be like, Hey,

1260
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: I'm not alone and it feels really good not to

1261
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 3: be alone.

1262
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

1263
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: I think like these are the conversations that like, I

1264
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: would have died to hear when I was young, and

1265
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: I hope they can do for like other young people

1266
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: what they would have done for me.

1267
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 4: For sure.

1268
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, Chase, you have an opportunity to offer

1269
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 3: yourself a piece of advice back when you are at

1270
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: your lowest low you're pre tokyo, you're just not feeling

1271
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: like yourself, and you know what, you know, now, what

1272
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: do you tell yourself?

1273
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: Probably to get yourself mentally right and don't try and

1274
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: fake it till you make it? Actually sort yourself out

1275
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: and then get yourself right and then do what you

1276
01:00:59,360 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: know you can do.

1277
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: Small steps to what you know you can do. I

1278
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: love it.

1279
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that we were able to do this today. Chase,

1280
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 3: tell the hurdlers that they don't follow you just yet.

1281
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: How do they follow along with you? How do they

1282
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: keep up with you? Give us all your details.

1283
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: I would say, like my Instagram's probably my most followed thing,

1284
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: which is just Chasey pooh sp for shot put, but

1285
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: it looks like Chasey poos. Everyone calls me poop, so

1286
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: that's fun. But yeah, I'm always on there doing my training.

1287
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: Everything's on there, Everything's on Instagram.

1288
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast

1289
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: Another hurdle Concered.

1290
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time