1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: This says the Bloomberg Daybreak Eroate podcast, available every morning 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Wednesday, the 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: twenty first of August in London. I'm Stephen Carroll. 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: And I'm Francin Laqwall. Coming up today, Bond traders take 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: on a historic level of risk as they ramp up 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: bets on radcuts from the federal reserve. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: Barack Obama takes to the stage of the Democratic National 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: Convention as Harris's candidacy stirs hopes for a peat of 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Plus no deal. America's top diplomat leaves the Middle East 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: without a ceasefire agreement as Hamas and Israel failed to 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: agree on the latest proposal. 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: Bon traders are taking on a record amount of risk 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: on federal reserve rate cut bets now, the number of 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: leverage positions and treasury futures sits at an all time high. 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Ahead of the Central Bank Symposium in Jackson Hall, Wyoming 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: this week. At the event, the Fed cher J. Powell 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: is set to give further insight into monetary policy paths 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: as expectations of a treasury market rally grown. Vanessa McMichael, 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: head of Corporate and Public Entity Strategy at Wells Fargo, 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: says investors are convinced lower borring costs are imminent. 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: It seems like our corporate investors have now accepted that 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: we are very close to the first FED funds cut. 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: We're actually we're seeing clients accept this, and we've spoken 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: to a number of clients over the past few months, 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: corporate clients where we were having this conversation and they 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: finally have implemented like a bond ladder, and this is 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: a conversation we've been having with them over the past year. 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: Well Fargo Vanessa McMichael. There now, traders have been betting 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: on a wide variety of Fed scenarios that could play 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: out this year. Currently about thirty basis points of cuts 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: our price for next month. 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Barack and Michelle Obama have delivered speech as painting Vice 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: President Kamala Harris as the heir of their political legacy. 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: In speeches to the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, both 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: pivoted between blistering critiques of Republican nominee Donald Trump and 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: calls for unity Although Harris has a slim lead in 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: national polls, Barack Obama made clear that he believes the 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: party needs to reach out beyond its base. We need 42 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: to remember that we've. 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: All got our blind spots and contradictions and prejudices, and 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: that if we want to. 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 4: Win over those who aren't yet ready to support our candidates, we. 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 5: Need to listen to their concerns and maybe learn something 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 5: in the process. 48 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: While Barack Obama drew parallels to his own historic victory, 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: the former First Lady drew rapturous applause when she took 50 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: aim at Trump's promise to deliver more quote black jobs. 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: Who's gonna tell him? 52 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 6: Who's gonna tell him that the job he's currently seeking 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 6: might just be one of those black jobs. 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: Harris's team is hoping to rebuild the multi ethnic, multi 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: generational coalition that elected Obama twice, turning out black voters 56 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: and drawing support from suburban, white and independent voters. 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: The British tech entrepreneur Mike Linch is one of six 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: people feared dead after a storm sank the luxury yacht 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: they were on off the coast of Sicily. Morgan Stanley 60 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: International Chairman Jonathan Bloomer is also among those missing. Clinch's 61 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: friend David Tabaza says it's a distressing time for friends 62 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: and family of the businessmen. 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 7: His integrity is intelligence, his sense of fun meant all. 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 7: We've all got a very soft spot for this man. 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 7: He's a legend and the somebody that's been through his 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 7: last twelve years. I'm just heartbroken for him and his family, 67 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 7: and I I hope there's a miracle about to a caer. 68 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: David Tabizel, co founder of the software company Autonomy, with 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: Mike Linch. The group on board the yacht were celebrating 70 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Lynch's recent acquittal from fraud charges associated with the twenty 71 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: eleven sale of the firm to Hewlett Packard. While the 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: Italian Coastguard says it will continue the search of the 73 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: sunken wreckage, six other passengers and nine crew members have 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: been rescued. 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: The European Union is planning to introduce a nine percent 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: tariff on tassela is imported from China, its latest response 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: to Beijing's ev subsidies. That's lower than the double digit 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: levees on Chinese manufacturers like saic Or BYD. Auto Investment 79 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: grower Bill Russo says there's a clear message behind the 80 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: different tariff levels. 81 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: What the EU is signaling is they don't want made 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 4: in China at sports. They would rather have the Chinese 83 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: supply chain and the Chinese capacities moved into the European Union. Tesla, 84 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: you've got a factory in Berlin, why not build your 85 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: cars here? B to id, You're going to build a 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: factory in Hungary. You like that, you get a lower 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: speeding ticket. So it's actually an invitation for Chinese companies 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 4: to bring their capacities closer to the European Union. 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: That's the CEO of Automobility Bill Russo, speaking to Bloomberg. 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: Officials say the relative good news for Tesla is because 91 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: the car giant was judged to be benefiting less from 92 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: subsidies than other firms. China claims the measures are protectionist 93 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: and threatened to retaliate. 94 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: The UK government is pledging funds and staff for a 95 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: migration crackdown after the far right riots earlier this summer. 96 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: The plan aims to tackle migrant workers being employed illegally 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: and people smuggling gangs, all Bloomberg extremes. Wilcock has more. 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 8: Home, Secretary of ek Cooper has set a target she 99 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 8: wants to deport more illegal migrants in the next six 100 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 8: months than the previous government managed in any six months 101 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 8: since twenty eighteen. That means nearly fifteen thousand people. It's 102 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 8: a key focus of the new government, which wants to 103 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 8: prove it can do better than Richi's next for around 104 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 8: the scheme and sees immigration as a key test to 105 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 8: win over voters. But migration has been a problem successive 106 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 8: British governments have promised and failed to fix. In London, 107 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 8: James Wilcock Bloomberg Radio. 108 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: The UK's new Transport Secretary says she plans to support 109 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: local authorities who want to introduce twenty mile per hour 110 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: speed zones, cycle lanes and low traffic neighborhoods. Louis Haig 111 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: says she wants to end the culture wars over transport policy, 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: after the Conservatives had sought to paint laborers waging a 113 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: war on motorists. While evidence suggests the twenty mile par 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: arizones reduce accidents, polling fines, they are deeply unpopular now 115 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: at a moment, we'll bring you more on how bond 116 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: traders are gearing up for Jay Powell's comments at Jackson 117 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: Hole later this week, plus the latest on the ceasefire 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: talks in the Middle East. But found another story that 119 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: caught my eye this morning about sending high school students 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: looking for a high school student in finance essentially is 121 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: the story. These are seminars in Hong Kong being offered 122 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: to fifteen to eighteen year olds to give them a 123 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: taste of what working in finance is like. 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, join us at five amsber It's a great story. 125 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: Our Calighuchen has actually been writing about these events. We're 126 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: fifteen to eighteen year olds undergo two days of free 127 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: training which ends with a simulation where they're managing a 128 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: twenty million dollar proper. 129 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: That sounds quite fun, but actually if you read it, 130 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: it sounds quite stressful. So I mean because they're essentially 131 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: being given the full pressure of what it's like to 132 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: do these jobs as well. It's part of the war 133 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: for talent. Of course, the big financises are looking for 134 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: to try and get those you know, young bright minds 135 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: as early as possible. They normally these seminars are normally 136 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: run for university students, so the idea is to try 137 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: and get high schoolers and first give them a taste 138 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: of it and then see if they want to go 139 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: on to the later courses, which are the ones that 140 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: are meant to get them into the internships in in 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: the Morgan Stanleys or the Citadels. But it's a great 142 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: piece because it speaks to some of the young people 143 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: who are actually doing them and their ambitions for it 144 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: as well. And there's some interesting stuff in there as 145 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: well about kind of while also showing the excitement of it, 146 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: showing the pressure that's involved in how you need to 147 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: love it if you're going to do it. 148 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. Do you want to go into a 149 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: job knowing that there's a lot of pressure? Do you 150 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: want to build it up? I mean, I know I'm 151 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: getting all fool out, but. 152 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: This is the excitement excitement slash pressure dynamic, right, It's 153 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: you know, part of what makes a job exciting is 154 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: if you have to do things quickly. 155 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 5: Says Bran and I. 156 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: Looking at each other sheepishly this hour of the morning 157 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: early that there. 158 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, but it's good. I mean, it's a word 159 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: for talent. But also you need to recruit the right people. 160 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: So I guess giving him a heads up of how hard. 161 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: It can be exactly the only way that you then 162 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: retain people will stay with you for twenty years. 163 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: True, and get people that are really interested in it 164 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: as well. Let's bring you more though now on how 165 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: bond traders are positioning ahead of fair trades around power. 166 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: Speaking at Jackson Hole later this week our am Life Structures, 167 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: Mark Cranfield joins us from more and morning to you. Mark, 168 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: can you talk us through the shifts then that we've 169 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: seen in risk taking by bond traders. What are they 170 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: batting on and what's the scale involved? 171 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 9: Yes, good morning, Huge is the scale. It's particularly leverage traders. 172 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 9: So there's weekly data which comes out from American exchanges 173 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 9: and it shows that positioning has never been bigger than 174 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 9: this in the treasury market now. It's not just because 175 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 9: people are getting confident that the Federal Reserve is moving 176 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 9: close towards its first interest rate cut in this cycle. 177 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 9: That's part of the story, but also within the treasury curve, 178 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 9: there's a lot of movement going on between different parts 179 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 9: of the curve, between the short end, the medium and 180 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 9: the longer end of the curve. So we still have 181 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 9: this inversion between the two years and ten years, which 182 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 9: has been in place for almost two years now. But 183 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 9: then there's also the strange king where the thirty year 184 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 9: yields are much higher are in the tens or the 185 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 9: five year sector of the curve. So traders' professional traders 186 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 9: that is, who have a lot more information and are 187 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 9: willing to bet a lot bigger numbers. They're willing to 188 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 9: take positions against the short end versus the long end 189 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 9: and different parts, so movements within that. Even if the 190 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 9: Federal Reserve didn't actually lower interest rates as quickly as 191 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 9: they expected, there will still be shifts between the short 192 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 9: and the ending of the curve which they can still 193 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 9: make money from. So that partly explains why positioning is 194 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 9: so big and probably will stay big for quite a 195 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 9: while yet. 196 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem with that is that and good morning, 197 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: is that it can be on the wrong side of 198 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: the bets. You know, Jepaw in the past has given 199 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: huge policy things that Jack and holl Or he hasn't 200 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: said much at all. Is there a worry that actually 201 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: treasuries will not move in the direction they're hoping? 202 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 9: There is certainly a risk that we see a sudden 203 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 9: backup in yields after Dering Power speaks because he he 204 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 9: might be reluctant to endorse all of the interest rate 205 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 9: cuts which are priced into the curve. So if you 206 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 9: look at the derivatives curve in America, they're pretty much 207 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 9: expecting the Federal Reserve to begin lowering rates in September, 208 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 9: but then to continue pretty much through the middle of 209 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 9: next year. Now, mister Power might be uncomfortable with that 210 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 9: because he has said many times the Fed is data dependent, 211 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 9: and of course he doesn't know how all the data 212 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 9: is going to play out for the next year. So 213 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 9: will he may well get people ready for the fact 214 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 9: that the yes, that we're going to make our first 215 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 9: move in September, but he will try and get people 216 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 9: to think, well, it's not certain that we are going 217 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 9: to follow up immediately with another rate cut and continue 218 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 9: to do so for some time. He'll probably want to 219 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 9: put some doubt into people's mind. Now, given how much 220 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 9: is already at stake, how much people have invested, there 221 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 9: is certainly room for Treasury reels to jump up a 222 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 9: little bit higher, at least for a while after he speaks, 223 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 9: But then, of course the data will start to kick 224 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 9: in again. We still have one more very important employment report, 225 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 9: and we have another inflation report to come before the 226 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 9: fad actually meet in September. 227 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's plenty to come between now and then. As 228 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: you say, lots can happen. A week is a long 229 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: time in the markets, as we know. Mark, thank you 230 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: very much for joining us. That's our m live strategus. 231 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: Mark Cranfield joining us now as we're looking ahead those 232 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: speeches at Jackson Hole. But also, of course another central banker, 233 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: the banker Japan Governor Kazuoidias, speaking to the Japanese parliament 234 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: on Friday as well. So plenty for traders to digest 235 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: on that front. Two, let's turn next to the Middle East, 236 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: where the US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln has left 237 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: the region with few visible signs that has ceased. FI 238 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: dealer is imminent, he says, ISRAELA signed up to a 239 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: so called bridging agreement, and he hopes and expects that 240 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: Humas will do the same. Our head of Middle Eastern 241 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: North Africa coverage, Stuart Livings to Wallace, joins us now 242 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: for more, Stuart, thanks for joining us. Blincoln spent yesterday 243 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: meeting Egyptian and Katari officials. No signs of further progress 244 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: from there, can we expect any now. 245 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 5: No, I mean the visit didn't go desperately well, I mean, 246 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 5: nor is it a complete as uster. I don't who 247 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 5: say that, but just in terms of let's start with Egypt, 248 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 5: I mean, yes, he did meet some senior officials. Didn't 249 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 5: feel like anything much came out of that, so there 250 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 5: was certainly no progress on that front. And Egypt had 251 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 5: already in any case been involved in the sort of 252 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 5: this bridging agreement or the formulation of it. In any case. 253 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 5: He then flew whatever it was three and a half 254 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 5: hours to Katar, and most meetings that were on the 255 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 5: schedule never really happened, So he was supposed to meet 256 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 5: the near that didn't happen. I think they're going to 257 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: try and do something by phone in the next couple 258 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 5: of days, and in fact, I don't think he actually 259 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 5: ever left the airport, so that was not an enormous success. 260 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 5: But again, Katar had been deeply involved as one of 261 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 5: the mediators, so no great surprise that there was no 262 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 5: progress there. I think what was the most frustrating about 263 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 5: the visit from the US side was Metayaho in that 264 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 5: it felt like he had signed up to this bridging agreement, 265 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 5: but then said some comments publicly that Billy irritated a 266 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 5: lot of people, and it did feel like he was 267 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 5: saying one thing to one audience, another thing to another audience, 268 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: and then a third thing to another audience. So it's 269 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 5: very hard to sort of pin down what exactly his 270 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: position is. And then on the her math side, it 271 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: does feel like there's some flexibility there, but again it's 272 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 5: not entirely clear what they're objecting to and to what 273 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 5: extent that might scuffer a deal. 274 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Suah, good morning. We also heard, I think about fifteen 275 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: twenty minutes ago, that Iran is said to be calibrating 276 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: an Israel response to avoid impacting the ceasefire. I don't 277 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: really know how to take that well. 278 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's a couple of things going 279 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 5: on here. So I mean, the first and foremost, you 280 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 5: can argue that by holding off, that is to some 281 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 5: extent psychological warfare, you know, and the idea being that 282 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 5: if you keep threatening an attack, then your opponent is 283 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 5: going to feel increasingly nervous. Now, I think the reality 284 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 5: on the grand in Israel, or at least our reporting, 285 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 5: showed that actually people I mean, I wouldn't say they're 286 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 5: not bothered. Clearly they are, but there's no sense of 287 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 5: panic with an Israel. Yes, some additional preparations are being 288 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 5: made for a possible retaliatory attack, but I think there's 289 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 5: also great confidence both in their own defenses and the 290 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 5: fact that the US has been moving so much weaponry 291 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 5: into the region to head off any potential attack. I 292 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 5: think the second thing to think about in terms of 293 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 5: how Iran's calibrating this is what might it get from 294 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: global powers if it does hold off completely, and what 295 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 5: might it achieve by holding off an attack, because the 296 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 5: risk is always as we saw in April when it 297 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 5: sent this barrage at about whatever it was, three hundred 298 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 5: missiles and drones across directly to Israel. The more or 299 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 5: less were knocked out the sky. So the risk on 300 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: one side is that you end up looking we have 301 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 5: many missiles and drones across number two, one of them 302 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 5: goes off target and hit something really, really bad, so 303 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 5: civilian population something along those lines, and then Israel is 304 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: forced in terms to escalate. And Iran, if nothing else, 305 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: has always been very careful of out trying very hard 306 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: not to escalate things because there's not a lot in 307 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 5: it for Aram, for a full scale Wark Stuart. 308 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: Of course, as all of this is happening, there are 309 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: still more is rarely strikes on Gaza, more death reported 310 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: yesterday as well. What do we know about the situation 311 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: there now? 312 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I think it continues to be a very 313 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: very difficult situation. So we've basically effectively moved into a 314 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 5: new phase of the war, and that happened some time ago. 315 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 5: So from the sort of the full scale, the sort 316 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 5: that we saw in the early months, you know, moving 317 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: further south down towards the Rafa crossing of Egypt, and 318 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 5: now it feels much more sort of a more targeted 319 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 5: response to outbreaks of violence. So you've seen, for instance, 320 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 5: this Operation Harmen Newness in the center of Kaza. That 321 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 5: again is you know, is a much more targeted series 322 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 5: of attacks. However, you can't understate the devastation that takes 323 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: place in Gaza and what has taken place Gaza. I'm 324 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 5: golurage everyone to go and read the very nice and 325 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 5: large piece that we did over the weekend showing the 326 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 5: extent of the damage and more importantly, what it's going 327 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 5: to take and how long it's going to take to 328 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: try and repair that. 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