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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it's time for a Tuesday edition
Speaker 1: of mix Shots inside the s WBC podcast studio here
Speaker 1: at Ford's Center Studio podcast at the Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1: Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, and future Ring of Honor and
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Everson Walls with you. Bill. We're going
Speaker 1: to put that in the universe. Happen to start printing
Speaker 1: out right, that's right. Get the campaign, yeah, Team Walls,
Speaker 1: Team Walls. It's worked for others as well. Started here,
Speaker 1: that's right, thanks to Treyvon. Trayvon has got right on
Speaker 1: the radar here all right. So there's much to talk
Speaker 1: about as the Cowboys turn their attention towards the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots and elsewhere around the National Football League. And
Speaker 1: Everson we walked in the door about the same time,
Speaker 1: which was about one minute ago. Really glad to see
Speaker 1: that too, by the way, And and about the professionalism
Speaker 1: in here is at the all time low. He's watching
Speaker 1: the game? Is that banks watching the games? I was
Speaker 1: dropping dimes. I'm snitching, damn it, I was. I was
Speaker 1: gonna compliment him on his professionalism because I walk in
Speaker 1: the door with you a minute ago, and he's got
Speaker 1: all this stuff laid out, laid out here and not
Speaker 1: ready again. Now what he did, He's pushed it out
Speaker 1: of the way to his right so he could put
Speaker 1: the computer to his left. That's where he did. I
Speaker 1: am multitasks. That's why he was here early. Because what
Speaker 1: kind of time did the game start? One seven? Okay, right,
Speaker 1: so he's been here for twenty five. The guys were
Speaker 1: in here. Okay, there is a show before, that's true.
Speaker 1: You know good about that, right? I came down between
Speaker 1: half in us. Okay. How's the game going right now? Zero? Zero? Okay?
Speaker 1: So what's going? Well? We're changing it up next week? Huh?
Speaker 1: Is it next week? We changing together just on Monday? Monday? No,
Speaker 1: And then we're oh yeah, it's case. It's a byeway.
Speaker 1: We're doing the mash up on Tuesday and wedness the
Speaker 1: change that's changing up the show. And then but on
Speaker 1: Monday we're on early nine were still travel right lits
Speaker 1: for other shows. So Monday we are on at nine
Speaker 1: thirty am and nine am on Monday, that's my nap day.
Speaker 1: And then Tuesday and Wednesday Everson got recruited to the
Speaker 1: Players Lounge. All right, we're Nate, all right, very good,
Speaker 1: and make sure you get a word in edge right.
Speaker 1: I'll be laughing the whole time. Sorry, I'll be cracking
Speaker 1: off the entire time. But first things first. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is Patriots Week and it is first things first. What's
Speaker 1: on your mind? With all your stuff laid out in
Speaker 1: front of you, what would you like to start with today? Mickey? Well,
Speaker 1: I think that it came up in Kellen Moore's press
Speaker 1: conference yesterday about his thoughts about facing Bill Belichick. And
Speaker 1: you know, we know Belichick can come up with some
Speaker 1: inventive defensive formations and game plans when he takes on
Speaker 1: a big offense. Do you know anyone who's ever played
Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick? I do you think we can find
Speaker 1: some insight by what he might be doing? Hey, Chris,
Speaker 1: go find somebody, and and and Kellen Moore was really
Speaker 1: good about how he handled it. He basically he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity, you know, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know every week this is a good opportunity against different
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. And I go, yeah, but this is Belichick.
Speaker 1: He yes, I understand it. He's the best coach in
Speaker 1: NFL history. So we'll have to be really good and
Speaker 1: preparing for this game. You know, what's what's interesting about
Speaker 1: this week? And I don't I think it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what the Patriots record is now they're sitting there at
Speaker 1: two and three. You know, there's certain weeks where you go, oh,
Speaker 1: this could be a trap game. I mean, that doesn't
Speaker 1: even enter the consciousness of a person this week when
Speaker 1: you're going up against the Patriots and what game exactly?
Speaker 1: The trap game means you're not prepared right exactly, and
Speaker 1: and so the Patriots could be oh and five right now,
Speaker 1: and but you circle this game on the calendar because
Speaker 1: of the don't let it low you to sleep. That's
Speaker 1: the trap game when you love to sleep about there?
Speaker 1: What is the benign look? Right? And but I think
Speaker 1: even for the coaches the players coming into it, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like, okay, you don't have to get
Speaker 1: their attention right that you're you're playing the Patriots and
Speaker 1: they know where they're going. And we thought the big
Speaker 1: test for this offense was going to be Carolina, Right,
Speaker 1: Well not so much. Right, This is the litmus test.
Speaker 1: Right now, you go on the road against a team
Speaker 1: that's two and three Belichick coaching. Can you go up
Speaker 1: there and win for the first time since nineteen eighty seven?
Speaker 1: Excuse me, and and deal with whatever the elements are,
Speaker 1: whatever the environment is, the weather, whatever. Can you just
Speaker 1: go up there and get this win going into the
Speaker 1: bye right, don't get ahead of yourself, like start looking
Speaker 1: at that by like it's vacation time, right, And I
Speaker 1: think this this is the litmus test of an offense
Speaker 1: that is now. Uh, I forgot to look it up. Well,
Speaker 1: you're looking that up. You have to go further back,
Speaker 1: no further back than two weeks ago to understand how
Speaker 1: difficult it is to go in there and get a win.
Speaker 1: Right when, Now, obviously the Patriots had circled Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: coming to town, I mean everybody had. But when when
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Buccaneers, playing at the level that
Speaker 1: they're playing at, even if they don't have Gronk, are
Speaker 1: going in there and winning by two points, you know,
Speaker 1: can barely get out of there with And so you're
Speaker 1: going up there with the number one offense meeting most
Speaker 1: yards per game, number two rushing offense. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: the only team that's rushing for more yards than you
Speaker 1: is Cleveland, not Tennessee. Uh No, because they got the
Speaker 1: double barrel backs. Now yes, so again uh and you
Speaker 1: are second in average points per game and only point two.
Speaker 1: There are only two points two points behind Buffalo. Buffalo
Speaker 1: is one seventy two. The Cowboys have scored one seventy.
Speaker 1: So this is an offense that has been rolling. Now
Speaker 1: can it go on the road and roll against Belichick
Speaker 1: in New England? And I think that's what we're gonna
Speaker 1: hear all weeks. And when you look at what two
Speaker 1: years ago we went into New England and the weather
Speaker 1: was horrible, right, No, nobody had as baddest to be. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Penguins wouldn't have liked it. Was both Dak
Speaker 1: and Brady's worst games probably in their careers. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: Dak out you think about it, Dack through for more
Speaker 1: yards than than Brady, and they were both really not
Speaker 1: impressive at all. One time you were going up against
Speaker 1: the defense like the Patriots, and so looking at this game.
Speaker 1: You've got, uh, not just Keller Moore having to deal
Speaker 1: with it. We noticed and we spoke of how Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott's able to come up to the line. And now
Speaker 1: he's that quarterback, he's that guy that that we look at.
Speaker 1: Now he's that Van Rodgers, he that that Brady. He
Speaker 1: knows his offense back and forth. There's not many things
Speaker 1: you can do to fool him, catch him off guard. Uh. Pressure,
Speaker 1: still pressure, You're still all of them, still human. They're
Speaker 1: still gonna sometimes make some mistakes. But this will be
Speaker 1: a time to see if Dak Prescott and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can improve from two years ago. And that was a
Speaker 1: thirteen to nine game two years ago, and it was
Speaker 1: it was. It was an ugly game. We failed in
Speaker 1: almost every effort offensively, and we want rolling as high
Speaker 1: as we are right now. Okay, when the beginning of
Speaker 1: last year is when Dak and the Cowboys offense was
Speaker 1: really shown that they can just really run up numbers
Speaker 1: and scores even at the behest of their own problems,
Speaker 1: that they were having their own mistakes. But when you
Speaker 1: look at the opportunity to show, Okay, this is the
Speaker 1: improvement we've made from two years ago. Okay, Dad can
Speaker 1: show his maturity. Keller Moore can say, Okay, I'm stepping
Speaker 1: out of the shadows. Now I can handle anybody. I
Speaker 1: can handle the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now I can have
Speaker 1: the New England Patries. It's a great opportunity just on
Speaker 1: the personal level for these guys to make some moves.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was, like I said, there was only
Speaker 1: one touchdown left I mean scored in that game, and
Speaker 1: it was. It ended up being set up by Matthew Slater,
Speaker 1: one of the best special teams player in the league.
Speaker 1: He blocked a punt right they get the ball at
Speaker 1: the twenty I believe it was, and he ended up
Speaker 1: throwing a twelve yard touchdown pass That was the only touchdown.
Speaker 1: Cowboys had more yards total yards, more yards passing, but
Speaker 1: they could not score a touchdown. Could the red zone?
Speaker 1: Just like the red zone was a major problem two
Speaker 1: years ago, it was a major problem last year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again, would you like to review how the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have fired against Bill Belichick's Patriots over the last twenty years? Well,
Speaker 1: I probably can do it off the top of my head. Okay,
Speaker 1: since Belichick got to the Patriots in ninety two thousand,
Speaker 1: two thousand. Well, they haven't beat him since they They
Speaker 1: played him in two thousand and three at New England,
Speaker 1: a twelve nothing loss. So that was Parcels versus Belichick. Well,
Speaker 1: unfortunately it was Parcels with Quincy Carter versus Belichick. It
Speaker 1: was a playoff team the Cowboys had. Yes, I know
Speaker 1: which was which will go down as the greatest coaching
Speaker 1: job in the history of the Dallas Cowboys that season
Speaker 1: that he got that team with Quincy car and uh
Speaker 1: and Barbara was after that, No, it was it was
Speaker 1: it was Hambrick Hambrick squad. No, No, Barbara was a
Speaker 1: couple of years later, several hours later. Five anyway, okay,
Speaker 1: so and then oh seven was in Dallas and it
Speaker 1: was a forty eight twenty seven and a New England win.
Speaker 1: That's where I remember. That's the first time I saw
Speaker 1: Brady in person. What year was that? Seven o seven?
Speaker 1: So that was only one of one of three losses
Speaker 1: that year. A t No. What I remember. What I
Speaker 1: remember picture. What I remember about break in that game
Speaker 1: is I've thinking seeing him on the sidelines and thinking,
Speaker 1: this guy never sweats. Yeah, yeah, he always looks like
Speaker 1: he's very dual commercial. Uh huh, yeah, it's the moose
Speaker 1: that his wife gives him. Twenty eleven. So four years later,
Speaker 1: playing at New England, it was a twenty to sixteen
Speaker 1: New England win. Twenty fifteen at at and T Stadium,
Speaker 1: thirty to six New England. Of course, that was a
Speaker 1: year where the Cowboys lost the starting quarterback and benched
Speaker 1: the backup for a guy to come off the bench.
Speaker 1: Castle show never done. Now New England had Castle at
Speaker 1: one point. They did okay, yeah, well he didn't do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: but they didn't I say, okay, they didn't make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but they did go ten and six, and then most
Speaker 1: recently it was twenty nineteen. The one thing, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the things that I like about the seventeen
Speaker 1: game schedule is now it just so happens that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys got matched up against the Patriots. Otherwise it would
Speaker 1: be two more years. You know, the rotation. Normally, when
Speaker 1: you're playing a team from the other conferences, you only
Speaker 1: play him every fourth year. Well, now we're playing the
Speaker 1: Pith moves up. This moves up the calculations. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: I mean, it just so happened that because of where
Speaker 1: they finished in the standings. Uh, the seventeenth game happens
Speaker 1: to be the Cowboys and the Patriots. But and so
Speaker 1: when we say it's been since nineteen eighty seven since
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have won at New England, which was an
Speaker 1: overtime game twenty three to seventeen, well he wasn't. But
Speaker 1: also the Cowboys haven't played the Patriots that often. No,
Speaker 1: I understand that course of that time. But look what
Speaker 1: happened from the beginning though, when they started playing them
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one. The Cowboys one every year, the
Speaker 1: seventh straight? Was it? Six seven in a row from
Speaker 1: seventy one through ninety six over a twenty five year period,
Speaker 1: seventh straight and then they have lost and they've lost
Speaker 1: one to three six in a row since then. Right,
Speaker 1: So kind of a weird series. This series goes in streets.
Speaker 1: It gave me my two interceptions on Monday Night football.
Speaker 1: I love New England. I had a great time there
Speaker 1: every time I go. So was that the eighty one game?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that rookie year. How many interceptions did you
Speaker 1: have that year? Eleven? I think it was thirteen thirteen?
Speaker 1: And concluded you forgot right if seven gets eleven. We're
Speaker 1: going to Heaven super Bowl Heaven. That's right, that's right,
Speaker 1: that's that's my that's my slogan. By the way, yes
Speaker 1: it is. I gave you credit for it the other
Speaker 1: day on the radio. Thanks seven gets to see. I
Speaker 1: like the Parsons aspect of it of eleven seven and
Speaker 1: eleven seven, come seven, come eleven. Okay? And then well,
Speaker 1: since I thought of it, I'll stick with what I said.
Speaker 1: We can amend it if you need to, Bill, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, he will, he will, SAgs rust me. It's like,
Speaker 1: look what I came up. It is an exciting week, though,
Speaker 1: Oh it is. It's specially you know what the other
Speaker 1: part of it. You know what who the Stars are playing?
Speaker 1: We got a National Hockey League team here in town.
Speaker 1: You know who the Stars are playing on Saturday night?
Speaker 1: The Bruins. They're playing the Bruins. You know where they're
Speaker 1: playing in Boston? Are they really? Yes? Huh? You know
Speaker 1: the Red Sox just qualified for the ALCS. They're already playing,
Speaker 1: aren't they. Well know they want they won their division
Speaker 1: series and yeah, they're awaiting the winner of this Astros
Speaker 1: White Sox series, and so they're going to be playing
Speaker 1: in the ALCS that they would be hosting it way
Speaker 1: on Monday. So on Saturday night, White Sox did something,
Speaker 1: just something happening. Run Frank Thomas, by the good guys.
Speaker 1: Gavin Sheets. You know a lot about Gavin Sheets. Gavin Sheets, Yes,
Speaker 1: not related to Gavin Lux who almost hit a home
Speaker 1: run for the Dodgers. Lay, I thought that was gone.
Speaker 1: He did too, Yes, he did. He was astounded that
Speaker 1: it got caught under the wind. Got it. There's no
Speaker 1: wind that there was. They win, They don't win until
Speaker 1: they those flags were standing. You see that. You didn't
Speaker 1: see the game at the Cotton Bowl the other day,
Speaker 1: we had an eighty five yard punt in a seventy
Speaker 1: eight yard punt. I saw, I saw the eighty five
Speaker 1: yard Well, you have to talk to them about the
Speaker 1: WW that's fires out there, so we don't have to
Speaker 1: do it with true. Yeah, that's that's good karma right there,
Speaker 1: because the ball hit the top of the wall, went over.
Speaker 1: That's luck. That's good Carmen as opposed to bouncing off
Speaker 1: the wall and then off a player for a ground
Speaker 1: rule double. And you know when you land the center
Speaker 1: field there right now is laying on his back what's
Speaker 1: going on? I think he hit the wall pretty home
Speaker 1: like Lorenzo Kane? Right? Was that Kane the other night? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he hasn't moved yet. Oh are you happy about that? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not happy. I'm just saying center fielder can't wipe
Speaker 1: the smirk off his face. Astro center field, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: not Caesar Sedenio. Um, all right, we continue back to man.
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Speaker 1: What is? What is the app? Chris? We gotta rant?
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Speaker 1: There is an app store? Do you have a No,
Speaker 1: he does not have a Apple phone. He don't have
Speaker 1: an Apple phone. Right, it comes back. That's why the
Speaker 1: text messages are green. When they come back from Mickey,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to read them. You've got to be
Speaker 1: alerted that they're not coming from an Apple product. You know,
Speaker 1: you can tell he's got an Android device because the
Speaker 1: bubbles are green instead of blue. Well, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Download in the app there's app store. It's it's like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't say app it says Mickey. It says Google
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Speaker 1: didn't they say download in the app store or Google
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Speaker 1: that an app store. There's a Google play store. Well
Speaker 1: then why didn't say app store and Google play right down?
Speaker 1: App store? I will next time? Oh my god, what
Speaker 1: are we doing? This is the two bills, Chris. This
Speaker 1: is just like the Belichick and plus sales doc. This
Speaker 1: is the two bills, right, I got it all on video.
Speaker 1: Miles Austin said it best when he went like this, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So to get this thing back on track, please, if
Speaker 1: you're Bill Belichick, yes, what are you doing to stop
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Give me some sort of defensive plan? I
Speaker 1: can tell you. Okay, well you could talk to Mickey there.
Speaker 1: Very good. Damn all right. I felt like I was
Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety all over again. Wow, good stuff. Now,
Speaker 1: what Belicheck does when he tries to get ready for
Speaker 1: especially someone that he's aware of or someone that has
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for, which would be the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense Kelly Moore and Dad Prescott, He's going to assign
Speaker 1: every position player to work on what affects him the most. Okay,
Speaker 1: He's going to give them a task. Okay, you look
Speaker 1: at the movement. All you do is look at the
Speaker 1: movement and what comes from all the movement that we have.
Speaker 1: Find a pattern to what's going on. You look at
Speaker 1: the past patterns themselves, maybe other running the running game itself.
Speaker 1: See what kind of blocking schemes that they use versus
Speaker 1: what we do now versus what everyone else do, but
Speaker 1: what we do. Sometimes he'll have you look at the
Speaker 1: different schemes against different teams, and he might change his scheme.
Speaker 1: So you're talking to us as if we're as if
Speaker 1: you're players. Players. Yes, and that's why I was good
Speaker 1: for me. I came from Landry system. I mean we
Speaker 1: had a computer papers, so I was used to studying
Speaker 1: in that manner. But Belichick had everyone looking at film.
Speaker 1: Of course, nowadays it's a whole lot easy. They can
Speaker 1: just take the our paths and they could assigned a
Speaker 1: certain tasks such as first intent, and they've got a
Speaker 1: scouting department that have those plays all and all you
Speaker 1: have to do is look at the patterns themselves, and
Speaker 1: you have to present that as you come when you
Speaker 1: come back to practice, usually on that Wednesday, I have
Speaker 1: to present that to the entire class. Well. So that's
Speaker 1: how he did it with the Giants, and now a
Speaker 1: head coach, if he gave you that assignment, then what
Speaker 1: are you looking at. I'm looking at the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: That's all I would be looking at. As a cornerback,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the wide receivers. Now, if he asked
Speaker 1: me to look at as a safety, I have a.
Speaker 1: Then I'd be looking at more passing downs like second
Speaker 1: and long, because that's when I was back in the back,
Speaker 1: I'll be looking second and long and third downs. But
Speaker 1: if I'm at the on the back position, all I'm
Speaker 1: looking at is what my wide receivers patterns look like,
Speaker 1: what they're splits would look like, what kind of runs,
Speaker 1: what kind of patterns they run when they're splitters type
Speaker 1: us when it's wide combos, rubbed routes. You gotta look
Speaker 1: at all of that stuff so you can tell you
Speaker 1: can almost predict some of the routes by the splits.
Speaker 1: You can detect a pattern the pattern. That's all you're
Speaker 1: looking for is just to detect a pattern. Because here's
Speaker 1: the thing about Belichick, and if any good coach to me,
Speaker 1: you want to take away what we do best, that's
Speaker 1: just it. Okay, hold on, hold on before you before
Speaker 1: you give away Cowboys secrets. All right, just keep this
Speaker 1: in mind. Okay, when when Bill Belichick puts his team together,
Speaker 1: he's not only looking at their athletic ability. One of
Speaker 1: the reasons Bill Belichick says Everson went up to Gil
Speaker 1: Brandt at the Hall of Fame ceremony and said, Everson
Speaker 1: Walls belongs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's
Speaker 1: because when he coached Everson Walls, he saw how smart
Speaker 1: Everson Walls is. Okay, told me so, Mickey. When he
Speaker 1: sees that Everson Walls is a regular on mix Shots
Speaker 1: this week, what what is Bill Belichick gonna do to
Speaker 1: prepare writing down notes? Exactly? He is listening now. He
Speaker 1: is listening right now. Okay. The Patriots are not practicing today.
Speaker 1: This is his day to get caught up on Cowboys podcast.
Speaker 1: He's gonna look. He looks at the menu of Cowboys
Speaker 1: Podcast and he sees Everson Walls is on this show
Speaker 1: called mix Shots. He said, I don't know who the
Speaker 1: hell this Mick is, but I do know who Everson
Speaker 1: Walls is. And I'm gonna lease now, Mickey, you just
Speaker 1: set up Everson to tell Bill Belichick how he needs
Speaker 1: to defend the Cowboys. Okay, bi man, So as you
Speaker 1: answer this question from Mickey, keep in mind the Belichick's list.
Speaker 1: Hey man, it doesn't matter if he's listening or not.
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. Any coach and Belichick has showed
Speaker 1: me this. He wants to make you just do something different. Okay,
Speaker 1: And if you do something different, then you're just not
Speaker 1: as comfortable. That doesn't mean that you can't adapt. We
Speaker 1: have a squad here that can adapt to almost anything,
Speaker 1: especially offensively. So that's why I'm not really worried about it.
Speaker 1: But when it comes down to it, he thinks that
Speaker 1: he's got an upper hand on you if he shuts
Speaker 1: down what you're strong at. That's why he wants to
Speaker 1: see the patterns because if he can, if he can
Speaker 1: attack those patterns of of plays, then that's when he's
Speaker 1: gonna counter attack that. That was one of the things
Speaker 1: that Kellen Moore pointed out yesterday about coming up with
Speaker 1: game plans, and then he goes and then great game plan, right,
Speaker 1: but you better be ready to adjust, right. You got
Speaker 1: to have a plan B and see and and even
Speaker 1: dan Quinnon and I wish I didn't write it down,
Speaker 1: but he said this to effect. He said he was
Speaker 1: taught talking to uh like a former upper level military guy,
Speaker 1: and the guys said the guy basically said, uh something
Speaker 1: to the fact the greatest plan of attack changes at
Speaker 1: first contact. So in other words, it's like Mike Tyson said,
Speaker 1: you can have a great game when I hit you
Speaker 1: in the mouth. Yeah, right, change, right. That's exactly so
Speaker 1: with all three we are. And that's the beauty of
Speaker 1: the team that Belichick puts together a year in and
Speaker 1: year out. What the Patriots do year in and year out,
Speaker 1: it's their acquisition of players where they have hybrid players
Speaker 1: and he can adjust his defense week to week. Some
Speaker 1: weeks he's primarily in a four to three. Other weeks
Speaker 1: he's a three four. It's a hybrid and so you
Speaker 1: really and so he can adjust and he's got smart
Speaker 1: players who can carry out the game plan from week
Speaker 1: to week. Here here's what I saw, and I see
Speaker 1: it to this day, especially defensively, He's gonna have some studs,
Speaker 1: just some straight up studs. This is gonna be that.
Speaker 1: You always had your lts. You always had your Pepper Johnson.
Speaker 1: You always had your Linda Marshalls. Now you had your
Speaker 1: gil Moores, you had your linebacker, the d all those
Speaker 1: guys that but you all, he always saw like a
Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison. You know that he's not that athletic, you know,
Speaker 1: he just I just needed to be where he needs
Speaker 1: to be. And I know he's gonna I can count
Speaker 1: on him to be where he's supposed to build. You know,
Speaker 1: Everson Walls. You know, he's got a knack force for
Speaker 1: this and that. Not that athletic, but I can put
Speaker 1: him in a particular spot to what he can do,
Speaker 1: what he does best, and so he's always got the
Speaker 1: studs along with those. Devin mccordy, who is it was
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick who's now in his twelfth
Speaker 1: year in the league. And I was about the running
Speaker 1: back from here, uh Burke Edwards burkheads now and yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So these are the kind of players that he just
Speaker 1: loves to have that well, I don't feel like explaining
Speaker 1: myself over and over again. This guy's gonna get it
Speaker 1: the first time. Those are the ones that he brings in.
Speaker 1: He brings as many of those as possible, so support
Speaker 1: to support those great athletes that might not have the
Speaker 1: experience that they need. Here's a great example, and now
Speaker 1: Kyle Vanoy is a good athlete, but here's a great
Speaker 1: example of how he prepares for the draft, and even
Speaker 1: though he doesn't draft a player, when that player becomes available,
Speaker 1: he pounces on him, especially with more experience. And like
Speaker 1: with Kyle Vanoy, he was drafted by the Lions in
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, and I don't remember the circumstances, but just
Speaker 1: a couple of years later he gets released by the Lions. Well,
Speaker 1: the Patriots snapped him up in a heartbeat, and he
Speaker 1: became a central figure on a couple of Super Bowl
Speaker 1: teams for them. He goes away last year because the
Speaker 1: Patriots lost Brady last year and they had several players
Speaker 1: who opted out, and so they did not have the
Speaker 1: same type team last year. And of course they went
Speaker 1: seven and nine last year and Danoy went away to Miami. Well,
Speaker 1: they decided, the Patriots decided to go ahead and put
Speaker 1: a team together this year, and so they reacquired Kyle
Speaker 1: van Noy and he's back on this team now this year.
Speaker 1: And it's the compass one for the coach that the
Speaker 1: players know what you know what. And Quinn had another
Speaker 1: good line I don't think I've heard before. So he says,
Speaker 1: you you end up practicing all week, you come up
Speaker 1: with this plan, You come up with different plays that
Speaker 1: you want to run defensively. Right, And he goes in,
Speaker 1: you get the Saturday and we're going through the different
Speaker 1: play calls and he says, one player says, uh, coach,
Speaker 1: can we redo that? And he goes no, never mind
Speaker 1: it's out because if we're on Saturday and we got
Speaker 1: to replay that call, somebody doesn't understand what's going on.
Speaker 1: So I'm not everybody has to be on the y. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought that that's what I thought. That was really enlightenment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that's also one of the reasons the
Speaker 1: Patriots miss on a lot of draft picks too, because
Speaker 1: you have to it's a mental thing as much as
Speaker 1: a physical thing is. And if if they get players
Speaker 1: in there and then they discover after they've been through
Speaker 1: an offseason with them that they're not getting it, well,
Speaker 1: they'll just go ahead and cut their losses and move
Speaker 1: on to somebody else, a veteran player and pick up.
Speaker 1: And you know that's why they let Chandler Jones walk.
Speaker 1: You look at at Chandler Jones, great player, but he
Speaker 1: was going to cost way too much money. And so
Speaker 1: for everything that Arizona paid Chandler Jones as a free agent,
Speaker 1: you know, each year, over a five year period, the
Speaker 1: Patriots are acquiring five different free agents for the same
Speaker 1: amount of money they would have been paying paying one player.
Speaker 1: And you know, the with his management had on then,
Speaker 1: and think about the other guy and it was kind
Speaker 1: of controversial when they let Jimmy Jamie con One's gone.
Speaker 1: Now he's bounced a team to team to teams back
Speaker 1: and he's back right, yeah, for like the third time,
Speaker 1: so probably what they were gonna pay him. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he went an got some signing bonus, but he didn't.
Speaker 1: But no one wanted to keep him after that. It
Speaker 1: was almost like Belichick knew something. You know, here's what
Speaker 1: you're worth, and I'm not what you What do you do?
Speaker 1: Sunday against Houston his first game back with the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins, I didn't see he got a sack. You
Speaker 1: know how many defensive plays he was in on? How
Speaker 1: many three? Wow? He was in on three one last
Speaker 1: three three snaps and he got a sack. And that's
Speaker 1: why I brought him back. That won the game. They
Speaker 1: made it simple for him. There's the quarterback, just go
Speaker 1: get him, don't worry about anything. So I mean, the
Speaker 1: bottom line, by the way, is they do have the
Speaker 1: fifth ranked defense. Uh, they're fifth overall fifty game against
Speaker 1: the pass and fifteenth against the run. And that's with
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. You know how tough it is to
Speaker 1: play defense. After all, the interceptions that your rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: is to win and put its Offensively, they're only ranked
Speaker 1: twenty sixth and you know what they are and third
Speaker 1: down efficiency or I'm sorry, red zone efficiency. I could
Speaker 1: look it up, but if thirty first in the league
Speaker 1: in the red zone, that's very unlicked with a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's explained. And that's been one of the Cowboys defensive
Speaker 1: problems by the way, the red zone. They haven't stopped
Speaker 1: people quite enough, although they did stop on the girly
Speaker 1: on right right, which turned that game around. And they
Speaker 1: thought that when they acquired these two tight ends in
Speaker 1: the offseason Hunter Henry and John who Smith, that that
Speaker 1: might help him in the red zone. And it's still
Speaker 1: early yet, we shall see. But when we got a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, that's it's tough. And we pointed this out,
Speaker 1: I believe yesterday when everybody's like, oh, they're trying to
Speaker 1: get Dr Bill Cox in the game more right, And
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if it was me or
Speaker 1: one of us said, well, yeah, he was probably second
Speaker 1: team goal line and he got moved up to first
Speaker 1: team because somebody was missing right. Well, Quinn said they
Speaker 1: asked him, so, were you trying to get him more involved?
Speaker 1: He goes, well, he was on the second team goal
Speaker 1: line and because of people that were missing, he got
Speaker 1: moved up to first team. He was very politically careful there,
Speaker 1: so yeah, he basically took Jelen Smith's place. All right,
Speaker 1: how about when we come back here on mix shots
Speaker 1: we talk about that linebacker rotation a little bit, because
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Speaker 1: talking linebackers, Yes, so what do you find interesting about
Speaker 1: the snap counts from the linebackers. Michael Parsons had sixty
Speaker 1: three snaps on defense out of sixty eight. Out of
Speaker 1: sixty eight, Kean O'Neil had thirty four, Layton vander Esh
Speaker 1: had thirty one, Jabril Cox had four. Right now, jay
Speaker 1: Ron Curse, your safety who will play down in the
Speaker 1: box and a nickel situation once again, and Jayron Curse
Speaker 1: leading away with sixty eight snaps on defense one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Never came off the field defensively, so what they made
Speaker 1: tackle seven. So what they're doing with Curse is they're
Speaker 1: playing them almost like playing Neil a little bit. So
Speaker 1: Neil and Parsons are on the nickel. When they were
Speaker 1: going base, it was Micah, vander ash and Curse, but
Speaker 1: Curse was lining up kind of on the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage a lot in the slot or on the tight end.
Speaker 1: So instead of a pure strong side linebacker, they were
Speaker 1: using basically what they called their big nickel. And then
Speaker 1: a lot of times when it was definite passing situation,
Speaker 1: there was only one linebacker on the field, but on
Speaker 1: a depth chart, they would probably list him as the
Speaker 1: sam linebacker even though yeah, yeah, in that base defense,
Speaker 1: but they probably just listed as an extra safety in
Speaker 1: FEUs considered the one linebacker. Yes, he was in the
Speaker 1: middle on the dime. Yeah, so sometimes dime they would
Speaker 1: take out a defensive lineman sometimes, but this time they're
Speaker 1: taking out both linebackers. So the way you divvy up
Speaker 1: those linebacker snaps amongst Neil and Layton, Layton in the
Speaker 1: base got thirty one, I mean essentially thirty one snaps
Speaker 1: and Keanu in the nickel with the thirty four snaps
Speaker 1: and Parsons on the field virtually the whole time, and
Speaker 1: then depending on what they decide to do on goal line,
Speaker 1: and they had a couple of goal line situations. But
Speaker 1: that's how it's got on the field. So think about
Speaker 1: it then, how many snaps was if Jalen was still
Speaker 1: on the team. How many snaps was Jaalen going to
Speaker 1: get in that game? I mean, and where are the
Speaker 1: snaps coming from? Well, they might have had him out
Speaker 1: there on the goal line. So there's your four Jabril
Speaker 1: Cox snaps. I was going to and then maybe some
Speaker 1: maybe on big nickel could it would have been spelling somebody,
Speaker 1: But as it was, Neil and vander esh were only
Speaker 1: getting thirty one and thirty four snaps right themselves. Well,
Speaker 1: and see here was the curious question yesterday to Quinn's
Speaker 1: when somebody asked, well, uh, Micah Parsons only rushed this
Speaker 1: many times? Well, I wonder who was ever counting that up?
Speaker 1: And I don't trust that all the time, right, because
Speaker 1: he was rushing as a middle linebacker. They had him
Speaker 1: and Randy Gregory standing on the line of scrimmage in
Speaker 1: some of those pass rush situations, and so they didn't
Speaker 1: know if he was dropping or rushing. And a couple
Speaker 1: of times he went up the middle on a delayed
Speaker 1: rush and they and they what they did is they
Speaker 1: allowed the defensive lineman whoever was on that outside to
Speaker 1: cave in, and then he was following around to see
Speaker 1: if they missed in a signment. I think he was
Speaker 1: reading the back itself. I think when the when the
Speaker 1: running back blocks, then he's like he's going and I'm gone, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just pay attention to the unless he sees he
Speaker 1: makes sure he doesn't chip, yeah, and then he takes
Speaker 1: off fields the gap. So what they were trying to
Speaker 1: do is create free lanes for him, and what the
Speaker 1: offense is doing dictates what he's doing on a play.
Speaker 1: It's not like that. Okay, we're you're blitching for sure
Speaker 1: on this play. It matters what the offense is doing,
Speaker 1: and he makes adjustments, right, And Quinn was very complimentary
Speaker 1: of him having studied and learning the different things they're
Speaker 1: asking him to do as a rookie. Where you saw
Speaker 1: doing the game, who was that made the comments saying
Speaker 1: that you know, it's putting too much mentally on his case,
Speaker 1: and he says, don't worry about me. I'll be okay.
Speaker 1: It was the Twitter war you brought up. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So so when you looked at it, I told you, guys,
Speaker 1: because now I finally found my paper from a pick
Speaker 1: to click I had left in the car. I picked
Speaker 1: the grick. So I always had Parsons versus Barkley, remember
Speaker 1: That's what I had. So sure enough when he heard himself.
Speaker 1: First of all, they started off I think he made
Speaker 1: the first tackle of the game on Barkley, and then
Speaker 1: they split him out. They split Barkley out wide and
Speaker 1: they tried to isolate him on a one on one situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about that before the game, and
Speaker 1: so that was a good thing. Parsons, of course, uh
Speaker 1: didn't cover him that well, but that's when Barkley went
Speaker 1: down because he stepped on Jordan Lewis's foot. But No
Speaker 1: Parsons was was just like that was my pick. The
Speaker 1: click too, by the way, was Parsons just coming up
Speaker 1: with this? And I also have digs with question marks
Speaker 1: down here. So once again I'm going back over my
Speaker 1: pick the clicks. I'm trying to salvage sometimes my reputation.
Speaker 1: But No Parsons had a great game. And our linebackers themselves,
Speaker 1: when you look at it, they are our when the
Speaker 1: pressure gets up on the offense. When when when offense
Speaker 1: we've scored and we put the opposing offense in a
Speaker 1: particular situation where they have to come back and score
Speaker 1: quickly because they know they can't keep up. It's like
Speaker 1: Quinn has a clock in his head and he's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the time to dial it up. And that's
Speaker 1: when he starts putting in our host of hybrid linebackers
Speaker 1: in any package that he can think of. And that's
Speaker 1: when you start seeing Parsons lined up all over the place.
Speaker 1: You see Randy Gregory I still see as a linebacker.
Speaker 1: You still you have Randy Greb You're making his moves
Speaker 1: on the outside, and they were running so many stunts
Speaker 1: and fake stunts. The offensive line just couldn't keep up.
Speaker 1: So to echo what you just said, that first possession,
Speaker 1: Barkley up the middle, Parsons O DIGGI Zoo with the tackles.
Speaker 1: Second play was in Jones scrambled. The tackle was made
Speaker 1: by Curse. He's already on the field right next play
Speaker 1: Barkley left guard Vander esh makes the tackle. Who had
Speaker 1: a good game, by the way. Yes, Then there was
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass. They went deep to John Ross and
Speaker 1: then on third down he threw incomplete to Tony and
Speaker 1: the guy covering him at that time Michael Persons. Now,
Speaker 1: next possession three, Barkley incomplete on a quick slant. That
Speaker 1: was when he got hurt right and then partook guarding him.
Speaker 1: He had to line up outside like a cornerback. Booker
Speaker 1: up the middle for one yard. It was Hooker and
Speaker 1: then on third down incomplete to Golladay. Digs and Parsons
Speaker 1: on the play. So they had to adjust to what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were doing, right because of what how he
Speaker 1: was playing as linebackers and Curse, who was kind of
Speaker 1: the wild card. One of these times we're going to
Speaker 1: have an offensive coordinator like Kellen Moore that we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to deal with. I think that's going to be
Speaker 1: kind of weird. I don't know if there's anybody out there,
Speaker 1: you guys know OC's better than I would. But when
Speaker 1: you look at what Callamore did in the game, he
Speaker 1: came by the first quarter with five wide receivers, yeah,
Speaker 1: five wife receivers, and he handed off to the CD lamb.
Speaker 1: So if you're if you're the Patriots, how do you
Speaker 1: prepare for that? I saw him again. They came up
Speaker 1: with McGovern was at tight end and that's when, uh,
Speaker 1: but it shows that there was they shifted wrong and
Speaker 1: it was in legal formation right. McGovern ended up with
Speaker 1: nine offensive snaps. He put him in a tight end
Speaker 1: and and and it was it was like it was
Speaker 1: on the field a lot. He was like the second
Speaker 1: tight end yeah, yeah, not the third, the second he
Speaker 1: was the second and then fullback. Hm. That was crazy.
Speaker 1: So there, yeah, there. So when I talked, I talked
Speaker 1: about the creative. If we come up against someone with
Speaker 1: that kind of creativity, I'm not sure how Quinn would
Speaker 1: handle that. Someone with the Josh McDaniels this week. Is
Speaker 1: he that good? Well, well, not only is he that good,
Speaker 1: does he have the talent right to make you to
Speaker 1: make you feel them? So they'll they'll face Kansas City.
Speaker 1: So they've been pretty good offensively Vegas and New Orleans,
Speaker 1: and I'm not worried about how good they are offensive
Speaker 1: and how creative they are right offensively, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: looking at. And then the team, it has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with their uh, the experience at the quarterback
Speaker 1: position too. Of course they can do and so and
Speaker 1: that's that's what That's why I'm not worried about. That's
Speaker 1: where New England's hand up. Yeah, with this with with
Speaker 1: Mac Jones this week and then uh, but it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. We're gonna come up against an offense
Speaker 1: that's gonna make us look as goofy as we've been
Speaker 1: making other defenses look. And I'd like to see how
Speaker 1: we handle that situation. This game here a role game
Speaker 1: situation that you cannot predict. It's going to be tough
Speaker 1: to predict right how we react, especially going up against
Speaker 1: the Belichick style of a team. Bet he's got some
Speaker 1: idea that he's got some ideas on offer too, right
Speaker 1: to help out. He's got the offense. He's Tom Landry.
Speaker 1: He could do offense, defense, special teams. He knows all
Speaker 1: about every facet of the game. You just don't catch
Speaker 1: those guys around like that anymore. Go ahead and tell
Speaker 1: it real quick, my Belichick story. The first time I
Speaker 1: ever talked to him when I didn't know, I probably
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to talk to him. I think it was okay.
Speaker 1: It was with the Giants. With the Giants, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're probably about the same ye, right. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: was in the locker room, which was an interesting day
Speaker 1: because the first time I was around the New York media.
Speaker 1: And so they had their in New York h and
Speaker 1: they had their little session with Parcels. Right. So he
Speaker 1: sits on this big kind of one of those long tables, right,
Speaker 1: and he's at the head of course, right, and and
Speaker 1: these guys they're they're all like asking the same question, right,
Speaker 1: And somebody asked a question and Parcel's like, now, why
Speaker 1: would you ask something like that? Right, just intimidates the
Speaker 1: hell out of the guy. Right. And I'm sitting there going, oh,
Speaker 1: this is good. Right. So I didn't know better. I
Speaker 1: went into the locker room when we were allowed to
Speaker 1: be in there, and everybody was looking for Taylor, right,
Speaker 1: and he comes in late, and like you know, the King,
Speaker 1: and everybody's around Lawrence, and so I was just standing
Speaker 1: there and Belichick comes walking by, and I asked him
Speaker 1: something about the defense and how well they were playing,
Speaker 1: because I think that, if I remember right, it was
Speaker 1: the game that both teams were tied for first six
Speaker 1: and two six and two, right, and you go up
Speaker 1: to New York, and then Danny got hurt, and so
Speaker 1: I started asking him questions and I didn't know that
Speaker 1: no one talked to him, and he answered my question right.
Speaker 1: I got two questions in and Parcels kind of looking
Speaker 1: at me, and he goes, you're not from around here, no, sir,
Speaker 1: I said, uh, you know, and told him where I
Speaker 1: was from, and I'm here doing stories and goes, oh,
Speaker 1: are you waiting for now? And I said, I said,
Speaker 1: shouldn't you be leaving now? I said Phil Simms? And
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, so you think Sims a pretty good quarterback?
Speaker 1: Hunt You might be smarter than these other guys around
Speaker 1: And he said it loud enough. The best he is
Speaker 1: the best, the best. He is the best. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: And after that day, it's like, I like this guy,
Speaker 1: and that's what I like about it, because he's thick skinned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you as a player, you can come up
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't admonish you for being comfortable around him.
Speaker 1: Right back in the day, that was a weird thing.
Speaker 1: And so I love, like I said, I love being
Speaker 1: he's setting in the steamboom with us and try to
Speaker 1: lose weight. I told you about that one, and you know,
Speaker 1: and he can. From my memory rights that must have
Speaker 1: looked I can't, you can't, so you must. You're you're
Speaker 1: with me now, you know, And that was their breakout.
Speaker 1: You're right, because he was under fire because he hadn't
Speaker 1: really done much. I guess eighty five was not a
Speaker 1: bad season we had. I think in eighty six is
Speaker 1: when we had the maybe it was eighty seven. We
Speaker 1: had the silver Anniversary Cowboy team. I made that team,
Speaker 1: and I remember standing on the podium. I was still
Speaker 1: in my uniform and I heard from the players as
Speaker 1: I went up there in ninety they said, when Pausal
Speaker 1: saw us doing that, it was at halftime. We were
Speaker 1: winning the game. The Cowboys were winning the game. At halftime,
Speaker 1: we're holding this. He goes looking at this. Guys they're
Speaker 1: having home coming on us, and they said, let's gets
Speaker 1: the We didn't do anything in the second half that
Speaker 1: celebrating home coming on this guy, like, oh man, that
Speaker 1: was a mistake. I love it. Oh when we're out
Speaker 1: of time, Yeah, Sean Clark has got us. Ow it
Speaker 1: got us? All right, Well, we'll have more stories from
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