WEBVTT - Violence and Trauma Recovery

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<v Speaker 1>What's her family? I'm to meet A D. Mallory. This

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<v Speaker 1>your and we are your hosts of street politicians the

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<v Speaker 1>place me what's up nice? How are you today? I

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<v Speaker 1>am blessing Holly fav and Queen how are you doing

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<v Speaker 1>to that? So we are just returning from trade weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I said trade week because I feel like I was

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<v Speaker 1>there for a long time. In fact, when we take

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<v Speaker 1>one of the interviews that's coming up in the show today,

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually on my way to the airport and

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<v Speaker 1>the only time that Mayor Ross Baraka had was right

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, and so we just stopped and got

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<v Speaker 1>on and did the interview with him. And I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you did that and now and we'll be showing folks

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<v Speaker 1>in a few moments um what took place in that interview.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trade weekend was I'm really proud of you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was there before you and so you were not

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<v Speaker 1>there for the very first event, which I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>just so I mean, it moved me and it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of set the tone for the rest of the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>from my perspective because I was there when they did

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<v Speaker 1>a ribbon cutting, which was actually a rope cutting at

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<v Speaker 1>how the homemade ice cream. It is a Houston based business.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is Houston base, but certainly, UM, we

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<v Speaker 1>were at a Houston location and a large part of

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<v Speaker 1>their employee base are people who have disabilities, and so

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<v Speaker 1>all of the employees UM who have who are who

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<v Speaker 1>have different issues, they were coming out. They were so

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<v Speaker 1>happy to see Trade there. UM hundreds of people showed

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<v Speaker 1>up to get free ice cream. The mayor was there

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<v Speaker 1>supporting Trade, UM and I and this partnership gives Pimity

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to bring more people, people who look like us

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<v Speaker 1>to the work force and UM and to this partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with how the homemade ice cream. And I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a real example of who he is and

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<v Speaker 1>setting the tone for what the life of traded truth means.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that he is going to receive his

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<v Speaker 1>full acknowledgement and flowers until much later on in life,

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<v Speaker 1>because the best is yet to come. But at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>if tomorrow, which you know it won't happen, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but if tomorrow Trade just said, um, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to to another country on finished for whatever reason. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>He's done a lot. He's done a lot of great work,

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<v Speaker 1>and the the the I guess the example of that

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<v Speaker 1>or the roots of the work, the the evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>his work was all over an entire weekend, several days

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<v Speaker 1>of individuals showing up to support him, to show their love.

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<v Speaker 1>A Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee being in the building, she

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<v Speaker 1>always saw a supports Trade Rihanna Taylor's mother to meet

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<v Speaker 1>the palmer. Who else did George Floyd's family supported him?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you know his George Floyd's cousin two d

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<v Speaker 1>is what we call her. She was with us all weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, her mom and her aunts and others

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<v Speaker 1>just being there to let Trade know that he is

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<v Speaker 1>he is loved and appreciated. And of course attorney he married,

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<v Speaker 1>who is going to be the next Attorney General of

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<v Speaker 1>the State of Texas. And you know, until Freedom was

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<v Speaker 1>in the building. So it just was a great weekend

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm really glad that we took the time to

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<v Speaker 1>spend with our brother Trade. To Trude, yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. Just just Trade stamina is just amazing

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<v Speaker 1>to me. It's not like he was just present. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to just come and be present, but to

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<v Speaker 1>be directing, to be organized in every event for four

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<v Speaker 1>days streight where it is probably about an hour two

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<v Speaker 1>in between each event. You know, he's full driving, hands on,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that everybody who came there with him was

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of He's checking on you every five seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>You're good, everything is good, you know, And understanding being

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<v Speaker 1>an organizer, being an organizer, being that plane doing all

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<v Speaker 1>those things, and understanding how wanted two events. I have

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<v Speaker 1>you exhausted, But to watch this man constantly do that

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<v Speaker 1>for four days straight without rest, which is phenomenal man.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had so many different artists, you know, Trades

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, he's a rap artist and he least

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<v Speaker 1>he's real passionate about it's his music. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of artists came out and show love. Yet you know, Davies,

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<v Speaker 1>you had Herbo, you have my Boy to Rest, to Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>you had um um so many I can't even you,

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<v Speaker 1>said Chappelle. There was a lot of people the way.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just so many people that just came up

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<v Speaker 1>the show love for Trade Man and being his brother.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm proud just to be able to say

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<v Speaker 1>I know Somebney like Trade is just phenomenal. So so

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't been to Trade aides slash trade weekend

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<v Speaker 1>slash Trade week You're missing a big thing. Man. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a phenomenal event. So shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>brother Yes, shout out to our brothers. So and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that I was really proud of is

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<v Speaker 1>that throughout the entire weekend, you know, I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>many violent outbursts or people who were, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated in the heat that you know, we can get,

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<v Speaker 1>we can get really really like frustrated, and it could

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of tension. You couldn't really see that

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that Trade sets intention uh to be

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<v Speaker 1>a person who folks know that what he's about is

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<v Speaker 1>extremely positive. That doesn't mean in any way, shape or

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<v Speaker 1>for him, and he won't chat because he will Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely a man's man. But Um, there's something about

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<v Speaker 1>the energy of people around that they know this is

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<v Speaker 1>not the time. And there's certain people who I how

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed school who I think would never come around

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not the type of environment that they are

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<v Speaker 1>looking to foster. And it just kind of brings me to, um,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been seeing you talk about over the last days.

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<v Speaker 1>Although UM, I am always cautious and concerned whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you are engaged in conflict with people who

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<v Speaker 1>I think are um, you know, real extra sensitive people

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<v Speaker 1>who can't take a lot of UM critique. UM. You

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<v Speaker 1>take a lot of people who have so much to

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<v Speaker 1>say about what you should do, what you did, what

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't do, what happening your younger ears, people talking

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<v Speaker 1>about your life, your career, um, and you deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though at times I'm sure it's frustrating, it's

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<v Speaker 1>when people say things that's just not true, especially people

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<v Speaker 1>who you actually know. But you do deal with it

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<v Speaker 1>and and and really brush so much of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>But not everybody has the same ability to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I know is from a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>but particularly a lot of cowardly men, is that their

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<v Speaker 1>response to dealing with someone that puts a mirror up

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<v Speaker 1>to them is not always safe, it's not always good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that a lot of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>you particularly challenge are individuals who have already proven themselves

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<v Speaker 1>to be, uh, you know, to be to be folks

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<v Speaker 1>who are not They're not they're not they're not, in

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<v Speaker 1>my judgment, really, they have no real care about community.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not really trying to save lives. They're not really

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<v Speaker 1>invested in anything that would bring positivity or change or

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<v Speaker 1>uplift man. I mean even some of them will challenge

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<v Speaker 1>you like, well, why haven't you done this or that?

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<v Speaker 1>But they've never done it. They never would, they never

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<v Speaker 1>participate and invest in those things. And so I'm always like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do we even waste side time talking to these individuals?

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess there's a method to your strategy of

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that you provide alternative um message to our youth,

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<v Speaker 1>But it just gets frustrated to watch sometimes because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like those individuals that you're talking to or

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<v Speaker 1>about are ever really gonna change, because it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>they've been sent here by somebody or something to do

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what they're doing, which is to cause disruption. Disruption

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, if you don't know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>allow negativity and allies to be louder and the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>if you allowed those who are dismissing misleading our youth

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<v Speaker 1>to be front and center, to have all promotion, to

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<v Speaker 1>utilize every platform they can to deliver their message, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't utilize We don't utilize our voices and our

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<v Speaker 1>own platforms to deliver the counter message that can actually

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<v Speaker 1>save our kids lives, then we're just as guilty as

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<v Speaker 1>they are. You know, if if we're just sitting that

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<v Speaker 1>back watching these people spread these lives and say a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of bullshit, as I say, that really ain't true,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and advocate for a lifestyle that's detrimental to

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<v Speaker 1>these kids lives, to promote certain things that are detrimental

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<v Speaker 1>to the survival, and and and and leading the culture

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<v Speaker 1>into a direction that is ultimately a dead end. Then

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<v Speaker 1>what do what? What? What is the work for for me? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>If for me the people say you're you above this? Myself?

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm from this community, right and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>there are people peopalize their platforms that have a real

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<v Speaker 1>stronghold on my community, right, and I because I left

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm able, I've I've been blessed enough to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to afford a different basic residents. Do I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>kid that kids that come from where I come from

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<v Speaker 1>or being misled and misguided or being forts and said

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<v Speaker 1>that I know it's not real? Then what is my work? Right? Who?

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<v Speaker 1>Who am I actually here to say? Well? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>just because then at that point you would call me

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<v Speaker 1>a cloud chair. You could say that I'm an ambulance chase.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just doing this because I've left the real work.

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<v Speaker 1>The real work is cheering form. And these young kids

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<v Speaker 1>that thought, just like I did at sixteen and fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen, that that you know, whoever was gangster was

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<v Speaker 1>one who was causing all the trouble. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>pulled out your gun and you talk all of the

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<v Speaker 1>piling stuff and you was rougher, tougher than everybody, then

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<v Speaker 1>that made you real, That made you a man. If

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<v Speaker 1>I leave the community that at fourteen and thirteen and fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>that was my mentality. And because I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that no more, and I transformed and I

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<v Speaker 1>understand something different, and I don't come back and give

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<v Speaker 1>real understandings about that to these kids, then what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm What exactly am I doing? How am I

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<v Speaker 1>How am I doing any work? What is the work

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing? I'm going to talk to the quiet to

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<v Speaker 1>preach all the people that know you're the anti violence organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting in the rooms with the anti violence organization,

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<v Speaker 1>people who who already know that where the money is,

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<v Speaker 1>who already know about violence who already changed their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I'm just talking to y'all, oh dad, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in those rooms and ain't none of these kids I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say, if I'm not on the platforms where

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<v Speaker 1>you got academics and whacking them talking this dumb ship,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to bring six knine of life and try

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<v Speaker 1>to make it seem like the lifestyle that he chose,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the decisions that he chose are what you

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing, because that's that's not an alternative to

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<v Speaker 1>street life. Of God, right, if people are making people

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<v Speaker 1>think that what's six nine did is something to be celebrated, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't want to talk about street life. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to talk about criminals. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't advocate for street life. But letting kids believe that

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<v Speaker 1>you can put hit to the people, you can cause violence,

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<v Speaker 1>you can run around in the streets and cause violence

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<v Speaker 1>and get people shot at, you can tell people to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot other people. And then when you're being held accountable

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<v Speaker 1>for the crimes and the life stide that you chose,

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<v Speaker 1>when the police come to you and say hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>did this and this and this and this is what

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<v Speaker 1>the consequences are for that unless you tell on somebody else. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And when you decide that, you know what, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to deal with my own consequences, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that somebody else deals with the consequences today actions,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't have to deal with mine. Right. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only do you lack of techrity, but you give a

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<v Speaker 1>false narrative to these kids who in the streets that say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I could keep doing crime because all

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do is tell on somebody else and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna go to jail. There's no real consequences to

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<v Speaker 1>what happens, right, So people think that's not a way

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<v Speaker 1>to stop crime and stop shooting the violence in our community.

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<v Speaker 1>The way is to say, hey, listen, the consequences in

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<v Speaker 1>the street life is jail or death. You can't escape it. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when when you let them think that, then a person,

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<v Speaker 1>a logical person, says, I really don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to jail and I don't want to die, so I

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<v Speaker 1>want to choose something different. And that's the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. So when people trying to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you you want to be in the streets, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be in the streets. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>nobody to be in the streets. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>us to celebrate coward behavior. I don't want us to

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<v Speaker 1>out advertise and and continue to perpetuate and uplift people

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<v Speaker 1>who are just cowards. I just that's not what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not about street like that's in every aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of the world in and it's the movement that we

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<v Speaker 1>would we have cowards who would sell us out immediately

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't want to deal with key there ride

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<v Speaker 1>with you all the time and be with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>then something come back and it's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>heat on you. They separate you, they self from you,

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<v Speaker 1>They tell what you said, Oh, this person is doing

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<v Speaker 1>this is a coward mentality. So it has nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with criminology or the streets. It's about integrity. So

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately this is my job, and I know it's my

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<v Speaker 1>job to because because every time these things happened, my

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<v Speaker 1>spirit is not at rest right. I can't be quiet

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<v Speaker 1>when I see things like this. I'm immediately drawn to

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<v Speaker 1>say it might you have to say, I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>how quiet I try to be. My spirit is not

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<v Speaker 1>okay with it, and if if if I was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be quiet, then I would be able to just

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<v Speaker 1>rub it off and be like, you don't bother me,

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<v Speaker 1>It don't matter to me. But everybody has a different

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<v Speaker 1>role play, and I believe that my role is really

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<v Speaker 1>transforming the street minded individual who've been lied to to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the realities that what's really going on the streets

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<v Speaker 1>and what's going on in life and how it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to affect you ultimately. You know, I respect what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like it that applies to so many

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<v Speaker 1>places in our lives. Um. You know, I feel that

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<v Speaker 1>we are living in a time when they're so much

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<v Speaker 1>happening all around us, and we all have to home

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<v Speaker 1>in on the thing things that we can influence, how

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<v Speaker 1>we can use our voices to be more impactful and

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<v Speaker 1>not more harmful. UM. And I think our use are

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<v Speaker 1>really crying out for people to help find another way

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<v Speaker 1>and to show them that there is a better way

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<v Speaker 1>to go about into approach uh the lifestyle that they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to live. But there are voices out there that

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<v Speaker 1>drown out, UM, the sounds of anything positive. There are

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<v Speaker 1>people who see an opportunity of paycheck right They see

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<v Speaker 1>not just a paycheck, but they also see their own

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<v Speaker 1>fame being wrapped up in just getting in where they

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<v Speaker 1>fitted and flowing what the with the the current culture

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<v Speaker 1>and climate, and that's really dangerous because our children get

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<v Speaker 1>caught up in that, um and they're you know, over

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<v Speaker 1>the last few weeks, I've really been deeply reflecting on

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<v Speaker 1>how will we address the issues externally but really have

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<v Speaker 1>a double down focus on issues that are happening happening internally.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what I do. You're saying, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's it's it's not easy, um, And

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<v Speaker 1>certainly it will come with a lot of criticism and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who feel like, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>tell us all the time we should we we we

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be fighting polices or or fighting with government, that

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<v Speaker 1>we should just focus on building in the community. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to call out injustice, we have to call

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<v Speaker 1>for righteousness, and it's hard work. So we all have

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<v Speaker 1>across to there, we all have, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think for me, you know, whatever, I speak to women's

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<v Speaker 1>rights and try to talk about the support that women need,

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<v Speaker 1>the support that we're not getting, and the ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which we are often abused and harmed by our own men.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are moments when people say to me, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to talk about that? You know, just

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<v Speaker 1>stick with this other thing. Don't focus on that because

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<v Speaker 1>it makes people feel like I'm being divisive. But the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is the truth, and we have to tell it

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<v Speaker 1>in order for things to get better. So that's the deal. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I guess for me, the thought of the

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<v Speaker 1>day today is wrapped around this concept that. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny as you were saying what you were saying

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<v Speaker 1>about how you know you you just your spirit won't rest.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to Dick Gregory speaking and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>when the universe chooses you to where the glasses and

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<v Speaker 1>you put them on, there's rules that come with wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the glasses. And he said that once you have them on,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see things as people would want you to

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<v Speaker 1>see them. You actually see them as they offer. And

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<v Speaker 1>therefore you are burden with the responsibility to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>and to speak truth to power. And at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're doing that, it's hard. It's hard. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think my thought of the day today is around me,

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<v Speaker 1>around what Dick Gregory is saying that some of us

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<v Speaker 1>have the glasses on and we can see things that

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<v Speaker 1>just need to be addressed, um, even though it's really

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<v Speaker 1>really an uncomfortable place to be. So that's my feelings

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<v Speaker 1>for today, and it leads us sort of into what

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about for these episodes. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>up to episode four where we're really focusing on violence, intervention,

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<v Speaker 1>and awareness because what we don't want to see is

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<v Speaker 1>that because of all this tension and beefs and every thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the music, it's in the culture, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>outside people, stressed out, people, got ment to health issues.

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<v Speaker 1>You see so much happening. We don't want there to

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<v Speaker 1>be an excuse made to take us back to the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties crime bill, um, where you know, our people are

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<v Speaker 1>just being locked up because folks are so frustrated that

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<v Speaker 1>they and so afraid that they just starting the fall

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<v Speaker 1>for more police and more punitive measures to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>real serious community crises. UM. So you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking around with a little bit of burden on

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<v Speaker 1>me today. I get it to make it a lot man,

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<v Speaker 1>and I walk around with that burden. We both we

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<v Speaker 1>both have very heavy loads to bear, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's why God chose us to do this

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<v Speaker 1>work together. So you know, I appreciate you for the

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<v Speaker 1>work you do. And I know sometimes my voice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at times it is a little scary, not really scary,

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<v Speaker 1>but it it's like you wish that I had I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to say that. Sometimes I wish I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to say a lot of things I do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know, coming from this hip hop culture, understanding the

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<v Speaker 1>impact that it has on the madge of these kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when I when I went and talked and

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<v Speaker 1>in these precincts and I went to different detention centers

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<v Speaker 1>and wrikers outland, I sat down with these sixteen and

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old understanding how the people that they follow

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<v Speaker 1>in this culture musically and everything impacts the decisions that

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<v Speaker 1>they need to actually put them in prison. Understanding that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like I have a higher you know,

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<v Speaker 1>calling I have a responsibility because I understand how serious

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<v Speaker 1>that is. I understand how your favorite artists and people

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<v Speaker 1>you respect can literally dictate the outcome of your life,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you when when you just in these streets

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<v Speaker 1>and in this culture. You know, so my moral compass

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<v Speaker 1>is never gonna allow me too sit back and watch

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<v Speaker 1>people intentionally just mislead these kids. Like you said, I

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<v Speaker 1>got the glasses on, so I'm gonna have to call

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<v Speaker 1>it how I see it. So that brings us into

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, which is gonna be a very informative episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Two people that we love who are on the front

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<v Speaker 1>line doing this work. We have the esteemed Honorable Mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of Newark, Ross J. Baracca, and we also have someone

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<v Speaker 1>who we works very close with. She is the director

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<v Speaker 1>of the New York Violence Prevention and Trauma Recovery Center

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<v Speaker 1>in Newark, and she's gonna bring to you all of

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<v Speaker 1>the efforts that are being done together. There should be

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<v Speaker 1>a dope show. I'm interested to hear them once again.

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<v Speaker 1>These are two our friends, because we have friends do

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<v Speaker 1>dope work. So I'm definitely looking forward to this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into so first, before we get started, usually

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<v Speaker 1>for our Streets is Talking segment, we have our brand expert,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss LaToya Bond to come and showcase a small business

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<v Speaker 1>and we certainly want to keep that going and so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back to that in the next episode. Before today,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to show you a video about the work

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<v Speaker 1>that is happening in Newark. It's actually a click um

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<v Speaker 1>that the media has done an interview on the work

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening to prevent violence in Newark, New Jersey. So

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<v Speaker 1>we want to watch it together so that as we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Mayor Baraca and also Miss Lakeisha Juri, who

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<v Speaker 1>works for the mayor, and it's really, as my son

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<v Speaker 1>has said, she is managing the violence intervention and trauma

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<v Speaker 1>worked for the mayor on his hat. Before we talk

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<v Speaker 1>to them, let's watch this video and just get a

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<v Speaker 1>real understanding of what it is that they're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>real hands on way on the ground in Newark, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>In the wake of George Floyd's murder last year, new

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<v Speaker 1>Or Mayor Robs Baraka announced the city would divert five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of its police budget to community based anti violence programs.

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<v Speaker 1>News Twelves Brian Dona Hue got the first look at

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<v Speaker 1>a summer program created as part of that initiative. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working and trying to get myself together on

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<v Speaker 1>the sidewalk outside the small Wellness center in the Newark

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood battered by drug violence and hardship. The stories pour

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<v Speaker 1>forth of a torrent of trauma. There's Todd Carter, who's

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<v Speaker 1>been shot twenty times, just recently home in Newark after

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<v Speaker 1>an eight year federal prison sentence for dealing drugs. So

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<v Speaker 1>now they put you back in the world. They expect

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<v Speaker 1>for you to be this new person, for him to

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<v Speaker 1>go get a job, to change your life, and you stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know how to do that. Takia Reeves was

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<v Speaker 1>shot twice at a nightclub in Seen and nearly died.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up in the hospital on lifestupp board. Um

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I code it like about seven times Norman's

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<v Speaker 1>Seven Operations. And Carlo Smith is trying to find his

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<v Speaker 1>footing after losing his job at Walmart weeks before his

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth birthday and he was something negative, always havous to

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<v Speaker 1>me around my birthday. All three were recently hired by

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<v Speaker 1>the City of Newark for a unique summer job getting

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<v Speaker 1>their lives back on track. So it's a it's an

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<v Speaker 1>urn and learn type of a program. It's called the

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<v Speaker 1>Safe Summer Academy. This is what I see for myself right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I want to go. At four sights

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<v Speaker 1>in the city's toughest neighborhoods, A hundred and twenty people

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<v Speaker 1>aged fourteen and up are paid fifteen dollars an hour

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<v Speaker 1>to attend workshops and classes and things like overcoming trauma,

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<v Speaker 1>managing finances, and starting businesses. Each team to the case

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<v Speaker 1>workers social worker to help them through. The way that

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<v Speaker 1>we approach this is from a public health lens, and

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<v Speaker 1>we understand that people have social emotional issues, mental health issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that depression and stress and all lit those things

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<v Speaker 1>are real areas and real places that our people are

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with, and so we need to put some supports

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<v Speaker 1>around them. Okay, okay, nobody else, Okay, we've had that

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<v Speaker 1>builds Resilious program is part of the Office of Violence Preventions,

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<v Speaker 1>started by Mayor Ross Baraka in the wake of the

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd murder and funded with the diversion of five

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<v Speaker 1>per cent of the police Department's budget. With so much

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<v Speaker 1>debate over the phrase defund the police, Newark is providing

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<v Speaker 1>this first glimpse at what that actually looks like. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't say that we are a defunding the police. We

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<v Speaker 1>are refunding the people. One part of the program that's

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<v Speaker 1>not on any syllabus is the hope and inspiration participants

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<v Speaker 1>can get from each other, like reeves for example, who,

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<v Speaker 1>after recovering from being shot, went on to earn first

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<v Speaker 1>her Associates degree and then her bachelor's and criminal justice

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<v Speaker 1>from Rutgers. When I go see the doctors, their faces

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, like wow, You're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be here, but I am supposed to be here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have a story, I have a testimony. We

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<v Speaker 1>all do. We've all been through tragic stuff. I really

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to take what happened to me and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, turn into something good, something great, something better.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why this program is really helping me. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be You're gonna be running this program some day.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be, I hope. So I'm Brian, Donny you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's positivity New Jersey. So, as I mentioned at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the show, this was a pre recorded component

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<v Speaker 1>of today's episode because Mayor Baracca, who is a very

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>very busy man, only had a very specific amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time and while I was on my way to the

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:17.120
<v Speaker 1>airport to travel to Houston for a trade a weekend. Um,

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 1>we just had to get on and do the interview.

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>So now we're gonna be joined by Mayor Cross Barrocca,

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>who is the mayor of Newark, New Jersey, but he

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>also was a very star Wars individual in the community.

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Mayor Baraca is well known for his community efforts. He's

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>the type of mayor that we need, the type of

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>mayor that comes from the people, that is of the people,

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>but is able to turn his passion for organizing and

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>for community basis, UM for for community based approaches to

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 1>addressing a myriad of issues. He's able to turn that

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<v Speaker 1>into real work on the ground and hour and it's

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<v Speaker 1>making significant changes. Um. I see the changes when I'm visiting.

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>You are of where communities were torn down, and he

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>is rebuilding and doing so much work. He's a friend

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 1>of the show. He's a friend of ours, UM, and

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of course he's done a lot of work with my son, UM.

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I watched the two. If you get together for many

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>events and mediations, people don't know about the things that

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you all have done that is off camera, when you've

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>actually been sitting down with the mayor and other men

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>working out tension and confusion and conflict in our communities.

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>And so let's hear from me and Ross Baracca. Let's

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>listen to this interview that we did and please excuse

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that I looked like a crazy woman in the car.

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think what he's saying is more important than

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the aesthetics of the interview. The reason why I think

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's so important to have you on today, Man Baracca,

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and why my son and I really wanted to have

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>you as a part of this six episode series that

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>we're doing about gun violence is because you are approaching

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it exactly as um. You know, we support what we believe,

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and that is that you could put all the police

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you want on the streets, but if you don't invest

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in the people, Uh, you would never be able to

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>produce gun violence and to save lives. So we just

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted to hear from you today to hear more about

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. Um. You know, I I the program

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and what you have been doing in Newark is really innovative.

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Our sister Humility Davis Dr. Davis is constantly telling us

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>that as she's on the ground a new work, she

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>sees real change happening in real time. So, uh, you

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>want to know my son if you want to say something,

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>But we'd love to hear from you, and I know

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you have short time to be here just to let

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>us know what it is that you're doing and what's

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the approach you're taking. Yeah, we I mean thank you.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm on a to be on. First of all. Uh,

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you having me on. You know, we just

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of of of of hard work. You know,

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of talk, a lot of stuff going

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>on around the country. We are just really trying to

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>lay one brick out of time and it's it's it's

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's hard, as I was expressing earlier, you know, in

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>an environment you know where we're trying to create opportunity

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>for social justice opportunities for people in our community and

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>deal with gun violence. Uh that's escalating, uh in our neighborhoods,

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. And one of the biggest critics of all

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of the things that you're gonna have to deal with

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in terms of trying to do this work are people

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that live in these neighborhoods, mothers, grandmothers, you know, folks

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that are raising kids in these communities that are that

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>are you know, experiencing hard high levels of violence. And

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>just to put it in perspective, like eight percent of

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the neighborhoods and Newark do not experience violent crime at all, Right,

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>so that looks like that sounds like a good number. Uh.

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And we got this from Rutgers when they did their study.

0:29:55.800 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>But that means that of the community is experiencing of

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the violence, right uh. And so if you're in the

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.239
<v Speaker 1>then you're like, oh, it's all good. But if you're

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>in of those neighborhoods uh, then you have a real

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>serious problem, a dramatic problem. Uh. And so we we

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>have to figure out how to deal with both of

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>those things, like how to create an atmosphere where we

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>make the police respect our constitutional rights UH, where social

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>justice is at the forefront of everything that we do

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>uh and and and and reducing violence and crime. And

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>so we think that public safety is not just the

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>role of the police. Public safety is the role of

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>all of us in this community. Uh. And so we

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>need to give give resources to other people in other

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.479
<v Speaker 1>areas where it is needed to help us reduce violence

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and crime and trauma uh that has been incurred in

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>our community over decades. Uh. And so the police can't

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>deal with those issues. And so that speaks directly to

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the idea of removing some funding and moving in another

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>places to help, uh, you know, stabilize the community. So

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>if violence is down, the need for police is down.

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Over policing in those communities is down, and and and

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>that's really how we're approaching it. Violence is a public

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>health issue. We created an Office of Violence Prevention and

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Trauma Recovery. Keeper Uria is doing an outstanding job trying

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to put this together. And she's building it, you know,

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>actually going you know, pulling community partners together, have a

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of consultants trying to figure out how to get

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>this done, pulling all of the street organizations that do

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>all of the violence intervention and prevention work together everybody,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and UH trying to get data UH and making sure

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that we UH tackle hot spots in areas, deal with trauma,

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>do with intervention and kids lives and helping families from

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>domestic violence to shooting victims, UH, everything that they're involved

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>in right now this summer, I think what Jamilla is

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about, we UH as a part of our youth

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>development program, we hired and even some adults now over

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred maybe hundred and forty. I think UH folks

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>who are directly involved with the legal with the legal system,

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>UH were directly involved in terms of shootings or shooting victims.

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>UH we we created our own program. We pay them

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>uh to go listen to speakers, to go to forums,

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to to deal with trauma, training too, to face the

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>issues they're dealing with in their lives, to prepare them

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>uh to to stop the violence that they're involved in

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the community, and help them get employment. And that's that's

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>what we're working on uh this summer, amongst a myriad

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of other things. Wow, that's that's amazing, man. Once again,

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I truly appreciate the work that you always do, man,

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in the way that you so community based in everything

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that you do. I just want to know because there's

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>so many different perspectives, like what would you think is

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>contributing to the the rash of just higher violent crimes

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and what would you think of it? The main two

0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>or three things that you see are really the major factors.

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Just the emotional stress and deterioration that's happened in our

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>community right now, particularly Look, it's happening in everybody's community

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>under COVID. The pressure emotional uh stress is caused UH

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>this kind of responsive really aggressiveness UH that's going on. H.

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>The fact that people aren't making uh on all levels,

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>even the black market or say, the white market, the

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>aren't aren't making the kind of money that that you

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>know that they were because of what's going on. I'll

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>hear people out where in the house. They're coming outside

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and fighting over territory and position and and and and

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>all these other kind of things. And it's it's difficult

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>for people, uh to be able to navigate all of

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the social services that existed before most of those things

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>shut down. Uh. The social services shut down, the court

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>shut down, everything shut down, and so people out here

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>really fending for themselves. Uh. And and you know, there's

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a court system up top that people do it. And

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>then there's the kind of course system that take place

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>in the streets that unfortunately uh involves violence. Uh. And

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>if there's no social services, no intervention, no folks involved

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>employed any here, it makes it more difficult. Wow. And

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was I was having this conversation today,

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and it seems to me as if these shooters quote

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 1>unquote are getting so much younger, absolutely and and and

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's really dangerous to me. It's like there's

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>a mind state to where they the lack of value

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>for life. I I've attributed it to the Internet. That's right.

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I've attributed because the the visuals of these kids constantly

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>seeing you know, violence and then they seeing it being celebrated. Right,

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Because as a young kids, you're very impressionable. And I

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 1>remember when I was, like I said all the time,

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>my first vision of success wasn't a lawyer. I didn't

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>live next door to a lawyer. I lived next to

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>it to a drug dealer. So I wanted to be

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>like the drug deal the girl I wanted to carb

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>wanting all the things I wanted was this was the

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>person I've seen it. So when you see it on

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it in this internet and you're seeing these young kids

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>are seeing you know, grown people being celebrated for violence

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, be getting uplifted, you know, it has

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a toll and it really just molds them. What do

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you think about that? I have a real life story.

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's real what you're saying. I know

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a guy that I grew up with who's a lawyer,

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and I used to tell him, I said, look, I

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>always knew you was gonna be a lawyer. You're very smart.

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>He said, I didn't know I was gonna I was

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lawyer. That's all I knew my father

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>was a lawyer. He took me to his trials. I

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>law briefs on the coffee table in the kitchen. I said,

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know nothing else. And when people used to

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>ask me what I want to do when I grew up,

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I would always say lawyer because I didn't know what

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>else to say, And ultimately it just drove me towards

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>being a lawyer. Not imagine you come home, it's not

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>law briefs on the table, right, there's other stuff on

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the table. And and the job they've taken you to

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>is not the courtroom or the clerk for some judge,

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's the block or the wanna And

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>so when people ask you what you want to be

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 1>when you grow up, it's natural response, unfortunately, is the

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>things that you see in front of you. And now

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>they're paying these kids, you know, money that they you know,

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it's small money, but they're paying the money out here

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in a very difficult economy to do this kind of stuff.

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.800
<v Speaker 1>And they think, and like you said, it's being celebrated,

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>so they think this is okay and they don't have

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>anybody intervening. And look, the data tells us if you

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.959
<v Speaker 1>grow up in a household where your siblings or parents

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>have been inconsubrated, you're more likely to being conserrated yourself.

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>You grew up in a household where you've been a

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>victim or perpetrator violence, you're more likely to be a

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>victim perpetrator violence yourself. So we identify, we know who

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>these kids are like, we can identify the social services system,

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>know the law enforcement system, know the community, know it's

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a it's a it's less than two of the people

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>in the community that's committing nine of the violence that's

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 1>going on. So we know where they are, we know

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>how to identify, and we know what the atmosphere that's

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna create them. So we have to intervene immediately. We

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>know what's getting ready to go down to watch it happen.

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Almost makes us co conspirators in it. That's makes us

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>co conspirators. It's it's it's so true because you know,

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 1>our expectation is that what you're doing should be happening

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>all across the nation, and it's not. And in fact,

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>there are mayors, governors and others who have pushed back

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>against UM having UH community based program. And in fact,

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>when we started the crisis, management system in New York City,

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>UH with Erica Ford and A. T. Mitchell and others

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that you know very well. Mayor Bloomberg was one percent

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>against and in fact he was a thousand percent against it.

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>He believed that legislation and policing were the only ways

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to address violence. UM. And now to see what you're doing,

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>it would seem to me that other mayors, you know,

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and since be just in a different place in society,

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that people would pick up your model and use it.

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>But that is not actually what's happening. Let me ask

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you about the A are P funds the funds that

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>are have come down or there they have been sent

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>to many of the cities, which is a part of

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the COVID relief plan. Are you using much of those

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 1>funds or a part of those funds to address these issues?

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>And do you believe that other mayors should be using

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>funds out of the COVID relief to address violence? And

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 1>because some people may not see that there's a connection

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>between the two, absolutely you should. And a matter of fact,

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.839
<v Speaker 1>the the White House was suggesting that we people do

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that in terms of UH just the idea of hiring

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 1>more youth UH in the summertime, dealing with the spike

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and youth violence. So all of those UH ways to

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>use the RP dollars. So we are using some of

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the money around Safe Summer Initiative, hiring people UH in

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the summer, increasing the summer jobs, but also creating opportunities

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>for UH you know, grassroots organization and nonprofit organizations to

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 1>make a little money while servicing young people throughout the summer. UH.

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's important because now you put these businesses back

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>when their feet, you put these nonprofits, you give them

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 1>resources and and money and opportunity to put back into

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 1>the economy. So you are servicing your economy and lifting

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 1>your economy up by taking care of small businesses, grassroots organizations,

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>nonprofits that are out here service and young people with

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>little and no resources at all, so you can use

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to give them the resources that they need

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>well giving them jobs that we think is a critical

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>part of this piece. And I know that the you know,

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the you have talked about the resources that you all

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>are giving to young people. That there's there's a gentleman

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>UM I can't remember his name, it escapes me now,

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 1>but he is from UH New Work and I was

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>told by others that he actually started this idea of

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>paying people, not necessarily paying them, but um giving people

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.959
<v Speaker 1>resources who were considered to be shooters, um and or

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>problematic in society. They have issues, they've been in and

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>out of the system, and so you all are targeting

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>focused on that particular population as a as a central

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>component of this work. Absolutely. Like I said earlier, you

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>we know who they are. So the police department gave

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>us the top fifty young people that we needed to

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>engage it and me, and so we went after those.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>They know that's that's the point. They know who the issue,

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>who has the issues, They know who where the problems are,

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and you are taking them instead of encouraging them to

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>be locked up. You're trying to give them a second chance. Yeah.

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I wrote a letter to all of their parents, and

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna write another one to the to the parents

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 1>of the new kids that are here now, just telling them, look,

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>we we know your kid is involved in this and

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>involved in that, and before they either wind up in

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>jail or dead, here's a series of programs that you

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>can put your kids in right now. And as a

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, if you want to speak about this further.

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Here's our phone number, our address. Please come down and

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>meet with us in person to talk about how we

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>can service your child. Mm hmm. And that's and that's

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the work that needs to be done. We were just

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>sitting here talking about how, you know, all the social

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>justice work that's been done over the past year and

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in all of the strides, and how just this violence

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>is something that the structure can utilize against us to

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.399
<v Speaker 1>try to pull back all of the work that we've done.

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I really commend when you you you're

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>taking a proactive approach. You know a lot of these

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>destructures would would like to take these kids and see

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>them and prepare jails for them. You know, they look

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>at these these kids and say, Okay, these are the

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>kids that are eventually gonna go to jail. They're not

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 1>redirecting them. They're not seeing that and getting in front

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of that and giving them resources and giving them different

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>ways to direct their energy. They're just preparing to be

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 1>able to lock them up. But you're taking an approach

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>that we all should be taking our community, that we

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>see these kids and we can identify that they have

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>some issues and they have problems, and we gotta figure

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>out whether it's mental issues, whether it's just too much

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 1>energy where they're hanging around the wrong crowds. We're giving

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>them opportunities. I mean, you're giving them opportunities to redirect

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and be on a different path. And and by the way,

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that just like they have issues, they also have talents.

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:19.839
<v Speaker 1>And who's going to help them to develop that? And um,

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that Uh you know, obviously I call you Ross,

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 1>but Mayor Baraka, Um, you know, it's it's really commendable.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>And we're not just saying it because you're on the

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 1>show and because we love you as a dear friend

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and brother. But it's commendable because who's gonna save our children?

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 1>If not us, then who And and and it's it

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>requires a certain love for our people to understand that

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to fight the people that you're trying

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>to help, right, They're gonna I know you do. If

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 1>you work with black if you work with black people,

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you fight every single day of your life. Let gonna

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>tell you a quick story. We was just at one

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 1>of these events, and so the man's in the back

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>and the guys in the front, and he's piste off

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 1>with the man saying, you ain't give me a job.

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And he said, the man didn't give me a job.

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 1>He didn't hire me. So I said, saying nothing, he

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>came he and then he comes to the front and

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 1>he gives a um a speech and he's talking. He said, well,

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody is being paid to be here. So I actually

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I did hire you know, everyone in this building that

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>was here, Like, you're literally being paid to come to

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>this program. Uh, and we can't give all the research sometimes,

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.240
<v Speaker 1>he said, if I hired you, there's somebody who's actually

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>been doing something else and and and took a few

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>more steps to get the job that you're looking for.

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not that I don't want to hire you, but

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>if I don't hire you, and then I don't hire them.

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 1>And they said, oh, well, I need to get in

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 1>trouble to get a job. So he said, it's it's

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:47.879
<v Speaker 1>we damned that were doing We damned that we don't.

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line is we're still gonna do the work,

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and we know you gotta go, and we appreciate you. Man,

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:54.399
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to get punched in the face,

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>don't get in the ring. Brother. That's that's what it's about.

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.240
<v Speaker 1>You know you gotta deal with all of the blows

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna come out you. You just gotta do the

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>work that you know you're supposed to do. That's it.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Trust me. We we know all so well about that.

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>We get punched in the face all day, all night.

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 1>But we appreciate you. Man. We know you're busy, and

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you appreciate you taking your time out. The work that

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you're doing is commendable. Hopefully we'll get some more officials

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that follow this model, man and invest in our kids

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>future and not in prison anytime. Many time you need me,

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for your brother. Thank you, Thank you to

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.919
<v Speaker 1>make up definitely, thank you. I love you so much, brother.

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. Thanks for being with us, and we

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>have to invite you back as we continue to go

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>through this series to have more dialogue about the steps

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that need to be taken because people will act like

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>they don't know what to do. Well, you're a shining

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>example of how to get it done. Thank you. Alright, Alright,

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that was a dope, you know could he's an amazing

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>guy because he shows you how coming from an organizing

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was once just a community organizer. Then

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 1>he went to being a principal and then counsel and

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that then to the mayor, and the effect and the

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>respect that he had in his community is what it

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>what it is. And that's what I say about community

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>based organizations having people from the community. You know, the

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>alternative to the presence in our community is about having

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 1>people from the community who are respected and loved and

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you can transform it. And that's the way that he

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:32.359
<v Speaker 1>approaches being the mayor. He approaches being the mayor from

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the lens of being someone who actually loves and kids

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.879
<v Speaker 1>for the community. So that shows you when you act

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to care about your community and you come from that community,

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you are more likely you want to do that for

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, and I think I think I agree with

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you might say, you know what I think, Um, there

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>should be more of this that's happening within our society

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that you can't just show up to run from mayor.

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, where people are saying, well, why were you

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 1>so against Andrew Yang running for mayor? UM? And while

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Eric Adams and I know, I've known him for a

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>long time, UM, and I have a lot of respect

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 1>for Eric, I'm still in disagreement with him about a

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:17.399
<v Speaker 1>few of the issues that I care about in terms

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of how he intends to leave the city yet and

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 1>still I'm happy to say that he has a background

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>in doing work within our communities. He actually was very,

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>very involved, heavily involved and addressing policing issues within New

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>York City's and YPD. He did that. He worked with

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the blacks and law enforcement and they were out there

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>challenging police oh all the time. And he knows the communities.

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Even Ray McGuire, he wasn't. He's not you know, he's

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:51.760
<v Speaker 1>not a and he is not the typical mayoral candidate

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>because clearly he has a lot of wealth and he

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 1>has been in UM and private practice. But he's from

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the community. Andrew A unfortunately is not period. I actually

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 1>have never seen him. And if Ray McGuire, one thing

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I can say, many of the community events that we've done,

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 1>he's been there. That's why I know it. I know

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>him from being out there is showing up at events, um,

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, donating resources. Same thing with the Maya WiDi.

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:24.240
<v Speaker 1>These are people we've actually seen. Whether or not we agree,

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about agreeing with them on everything. Even

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Scott Stringer, these are people we've seen. They've been on

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the issues at one point or another, they've been engaged

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 1>in some way. Don't have to agree with everything, don't

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 1>have to support all their policies. But someone who just

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>shows up from absolutely nowhere and decides that because of

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a message of you know, giving people a thousand dollars

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, they can become mayor when unfortunately they have

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 1>not been engaged on a day to day basis or

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 1>on any level in our communities. I just didn't think

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that that was okay, And not to mention the things

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 1>that he said while running from mayor gave me a

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 1>clear understanding of why I felt the way that I

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 1>felt inside. When they asked him about street vendors and

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>he said, there has to be more enforcement and basically

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 1>locking up people who are out there selling lucy cigarettes

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 1>because and I know those are not necessarily street vendors,

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 1>but you get my point. These are people out there

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>selling bottle water, they're selling you know, different things, hats

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Instead of him saying that we need to

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>get them in the pipeline so that they can get

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 1>the types of certificates that they need to do the work,

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>he went straight to law enforcement and policing. And I

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>thought to myself. This is not a good idea, So

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, there are people who didn't like it, but

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>again the glasses so we know, man. So I'm just

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 1>happy that we understand and hopefully we can give some

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>understanding to anybody that's paying attention. Like if you can't,

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing about us without us, man, you can't be

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 1>in our communities, and you ain't from our communities. You

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.240
<v Speaker 1>don't have a post on what's going on in the streets.

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a post that what's going on in

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the in the communities that you're trying to government that

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>how can you govern or do anything for them? Correct facts.

0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>So we just spoke to Mayor Ross Baraka and he

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>spoke to us about this person that we're about to

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:34.400
<v Speaker 1>interview right now. She is Lakisha Yuri. She is the

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>executive director of Violence Prevention and Trauma Recovery in New Ork,

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. She does all the work because Ross rock

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the is the Mayor of New Ork and he has

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>so much on his plate. She is the go to

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 1>person for all everything violence prevention and intervention inside of

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.879
<v Speaker 1>New New Jersey. She had handled so much I've worked

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 1>with up. She is a phenomenal sister Lakeisha Yuri. How

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you doing today, Clean? I am good. Thank you so

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.400
<v Speaker 1>much for having me on the show today. Thank you

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>so much, so thank you. I just want to say hi,

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 1>so good to see you any every time I see

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>we're working. So it's good to give you an opportunity

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 1>to tell people what it is that you do every

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.319
<v Speaker 1>day and how much you make the efforts of Mayor

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Baraka Um make it real in Newark, New Jersey. Thank

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you so much. We know that these front lines are

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 1>certainly front lines, UM, and we certainly showed it. So

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 1>UM showed that the show that So it's good to

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>see you. It's good to see my song, and it's

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>good to be on the show. Street politicians, right, that's

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>who we are, right, So give us give the people

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>telling people what it is that you exactly do, what

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:49.359
<v Speaker 1>is your position entail? So under Mayor Ross J. Baraca Um,

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe a year ago in the wakening cries of George

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Floyd in the protest, there was this rally and cry

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>around defunding of the police, and so the City of

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:04.320
<v Speaker 1>New York ultimately reallocated five percent of its police department

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>budget to violence prevention programs. So I was already doing

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>some work out of the Health Department, and so what

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>we did was we put domestic violence, sexual soul, and

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>community violence under one umbrella. And so we're building out

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 1>domestic BOUM not just domestic violence, but community violence, but

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 1>putting it in a place where we are approaching it

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.840
<v Speaker 1>from a public health place. So we're marrying public safety

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and public health, and we're having our own community based

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 1>public safety where the police don't have to respond to everything,

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>where the people are allowed to have a voice in

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>public safety. And so we are getting a police precinct.

0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 1>So the city of north has seven police precincts and

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the precincts is going to be designated to

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the Office of Violence Prevention. So we're building out this

0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:56.280
<v Speaker 1>office UM and we're building a museum. So in this precinct,

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have a Conflict Resolution Museum UM and

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 1>that music m is going to tell the history of

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the city of Nuke's policing from the sixties seven rebellion

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>up through today to where we see changes that are

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 1>happening in law enforcement and in the police department in

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the City of Newark. So my office is going to

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 1>be responsible for the social services aspect, the mental health aspect. UM.

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 1>We have a um Brick City Peace Collective, which consists

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of about sixteen community based organizations that's going to collaborate

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:32.239
<v Speaker 1>and come together and coordinate strategies to be able to

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:34.479
<v Speaker 1>combat some of the crime and valance in the city.

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 1>And that includes mediating some of these conclutes directly. UM

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>And So the office also has social workers, case managers,

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:47.319
<v Speaker 1>victim advocates, Anti racism and hate Crimes unit where people

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:50.760
<v Speaker 1>can come and report if they feel discriminated against based

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>on race and ethnicity. UM. And we also have clinicians

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>and therapists and a hospital based violence intervention program. So

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:02.319
<v Speaker 1>it's a gamut of a bunch of things happening under

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>this office. UM. And yes, it has been entrusted to

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 1>me to to run it, developed the strategies UM. But

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>ultimately because I come from the community, born and raised

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:15.880
<v Speaker 1>in the city of North and we've sold it together

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>with Mayor Rocket before he was the mayor, before he

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 1>was the councilman, when he was the principal of a school,

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and so we know that community based efforts work when

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the people know the community they come from the community,

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the outcomes are inevitable. So you all, now, Mayor Rocket

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 1>was telling us that, Um, the police and I guess

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in conjunction with your office and others, have identified those

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 1>people who are crisis there in crisis, so they, you know,

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 1>our folks who would have been identified as the troublemakers,

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the potential shooters, and you all are working with them.

0:53:53.960 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>And I know you say the office that you have

0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 1>said that, the office you're working on. Um, it's in progress.

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:03.320
<v Speaker 1>This work is already happening. It's just that at some

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 1>point you guys are gonna have a center which I

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:09.760
<v Speaker 1>hope will become a national model even an international model

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>for how do you bring violence down and hype work

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 1>directly with the community. But every day at this point,

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you're you're doing this work, working with these young people,

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to get them employed and to keep them off

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 1>the streets in mind. Is that correct? That's correct. So

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 1>what we find is the data says that four percent

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes even ten percent of the population experienced the

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.200
<v Speaker 1>most crime and violence, or the small amount of people

0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:37.359
<v Speaker 1>are committing the most crime and violence. And so rather

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 1>than coming up with this approach where we are blanket,

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, doing strategies, it's focused, determined, right, we go

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>right directly to the people who are committing the crime

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:50.000
<v Speaker 1>violence and talking with them and seeing what is it

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that you need? Why are you robbing people? Why are

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you shooting people? Why did you join the game that

0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you're a part of, why are you, you know, stealing cars,

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and just really trying to ask those questions and figure

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:03.799
<v Speaker 1>out what is it that we can do to get

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to the underlying portions of it. We have UM people,

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 1>so the police do have a list, and they have

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of intelligence around who people are, what's happening,

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and what they're doing. And their strategy is just to

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:19.320
<v Speaker 1>arrest them. That's the only strategy. But we're saying no,

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that that's not enough because we have this cycle of

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 1>violence that continues to happen if we just keep arresting

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 1>people UM, because they're doing things from behind the wall,

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 1>inside the wall, outside the wall, and so we want

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 1>to find out what is going on. So we are

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:37.280
<v Speaker 1>UM implementing. So right now, I have a summer program

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>UM and we're gonna extend it beyond the summer UM

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's called the Safe Summer Academy. Where we went

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 1>after and recruited those people that we know are creating

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the most crimon violence in the city, and we employed them.

0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:52.400
<v Speaker 1>So I currently have a hundred and twenty individuals UM

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 1>fourteen to seventeen, eighteen to twenty four, and then a

0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:59.879
<v Speaker 1>twenty five and over UM groups I have about fourth sight.

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 1>And these are the people that we know are creating

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the crime and violence or have been victims of and

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>we are trying to intervene so that they don't become

0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:12.879
<v Speaker 1>the perpetrators of And many of them have mental health

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>issues issues, have been incarcerated, have dropped out of school,

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and so we're very intentional about this population. And we

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>recognize some of the issues, and we recognize trauma and

0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>so many of the staff for trauma informed trains and

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:29.840
<v Speaker 1>so we know what it takes to be able to

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:33.439
<v Speaker 1>engage them. So so let me just ask you, first

0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 1>of all, what is the success rate at this point?

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.960
<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing is or maybe you could

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:41.640
<v Speaker 1>answer this first and then talk about the success rate,

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but what type of work do you have these young

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 1>people doing when you employ them? Um? You know, what

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 1>are you what are you giving them as opportunities and

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 1>are they learning a skill a trade? Um? How would

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 1>you speak to the actual opportunities. And then what at

0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 1>this point do you think is UM, How do you

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:05.400
<v Speaker 1>think or efforts are paying out? So the UM what

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I would say is that they are UM earning to

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>learn right so as to earn and learn program. So

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 1>many of them, they are learning skills around UM social

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 1>emotional right, anger management, conflict resolution, They're getting financial literacy,

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>money management, entrepreneurship skills UM. They're doing vision boards, they're

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 1>presenting their business ideas. The program is going to fund

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:30.840
<v Speaker 1>UM their business idea. We're going to give each of

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the participants a thousand dollars to get started their own business,

0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and that may be something as small as a T

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:40.360
<v Speaker 1>shirt business, to socks, t shirts, whatever it is, so

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that they can flip the game right, so they can

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 1>flict their hust to the ones that may be hustling

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and selling drugs in the community, so that they don't

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 1>have to steal cars to sell aparts to make money.

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>So we're trying to show them better ways to be

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:56.480
<v Speaker 1>able to make money, how to UM look at their

0:57:56.520 --> 0:58:00.120
<v Speaker 1>skills and really flip it into something more positive so

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that they don't have to go to jail. They're getting

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>UM UM public speaking skills, um, you know, so they're

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 1>doing electrical carpentry, welding, you know, so hands on kinds

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:15.360
<v Speaker 1>of things, Ocean thirty certifications so that they can go

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 1>on construction sites so UM CDL licenses. So it just

0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:22.640
<v Speaker 1>depends on the age range. But we're giving them some

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 1>hands on skills that they can take that's transferable um

0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 1>to wherever they go. In terms of the success, I

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>would say that every day that they show up as

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a success. Every day that we keep them for eight

0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:37.240
<v Speaker 1>hours off the street is a day that they get

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 1>to live again, that they are not committing crimes and violence.

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:43.520
<v Speaker 1>So we have them on a forty hour work week

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 1>schedule um And in those forty hours a week, we

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:49.800
<v Speaker 1>have kept the city safe. And so I would say

0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>that those are our small victories, but those are victories,

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and we have a hundred and twenty of them. So

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>we have stopped a hundred and twenty people a day

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.880
<v Speaker 1>from being incarcerated or being hurt in ets. So I

0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:03.760
<v Speaker 1>would say that the victory and the success rate isn't that.

0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 1>But we are gathering data. We are gathering u information

0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to see really where the impact is and what the

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>real outcomes are going to be. When it's over. So

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 1>for the young people, we can't keep them past the

0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 1>end of the summer because they're going back to school.

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 1>But for the adults who are disengaged, we can keep

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:23.919
<v Speaker 1>them through the end of the year. So we're gonna

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 1>extend it out um and we'll find um job sites

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:29.760
<v Speaker 1>for them to go on. They are. They went to

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the Mayor's director meeting and all of the directors throughout

0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole city introduced themselves to tell them who they are,

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:40.400
<v Speaker 1>and they ultimately offered many of them internships. So, you know,

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.479
<v Speaker 1>really trying to find some tangible things that makes sense

0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that they can really network and get something tangible out

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 1>of it. I think I just want to know, you know,

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 1>because it's the work is First of all, I want

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to congratulate you. It's phenomenal. A lot of times people

0:59:57.000 --> 1:00:01.080
<v Speaker 1>try to, you know, diminish the defund police strategy and

1:00:01.200 --> 1:00:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you actually utilize the word that you know, a phrase

1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that I use is refunding the community. And you know what,

1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to know, what do you think, like based

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:11.760
<v Speaker 1>on the data that you've been doing, what do you

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's like two of the most central causes of

1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the crime and violence in our community. UM. I would say,

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:22.920
<v Speaker 1>as we're talking to them, we're asking them like, what

1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:25.720
<v Speaker 1>makes you cause you know, what's causing you to go out?

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:29.480
<v Speaker 1>And for many of them it's UM, it's the culture, right,

1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the culture of violence is popular, UM and it's normal.

1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And many of them, well, my father did it, my

1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:38.760
<v Speaker 1>brother did it, people with my family did it. And

1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw them, you know, come up and you know,

1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:45.760
<v Speaker 1>we ultimately know that. Um. The ultimate you know is poverty, right,

1:00:45.920 --> 1:00:48.520
<v Speaker 1>money a lot of times, but then I find that

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:50.160
<v Speaker 1>when they do get money, they don't know how to

1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:52.360
<v Speaker 1>manage it, right. They don't have a plan for the money.

1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Even if they do have it, there's no plan. Um.

1:00:55.440 --> 1:01:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And for other people, we're finding that stress, being overwhelmed um.

1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:05.640
<v Speaker 1>The culture in the inner city, right, people feeling disrespected,

1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:09.560
<v Speaker 1>self worth, self confident, self esteem, all of those things

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:13.360
<v Speaker 1>are underdeveloped. UM. And when you have that, then people

1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:16.520
<v Speaker 1>lash out in ways that that's violent, Like they don't

1:01:16.600 --> 1:01:19.560
<v Speaker 1>know another way, right, lack of coping skills, lack of

1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:23.000
<v Speaker 1>UM conflict resolution skills, that they don't know that there's

1:01:23.000 --> 1:01:26.520
<v Speaker 1>another way to resolve conflict, that violence is not the

1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:30.000
<v Speaker 1>only way to do it. Domestic violence is up UM.

1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:32.200
<v Speaker 1>In the city of north we have over four thousand

1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 1>cases a year UM domestic violence, UM, sexual assault. You know,

1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:39.800
<v Speaker 1>many of it. We don't even touch sexual assault because

1:01:39.840 --> 1:01:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it's so taboo UM sexual violence that's happening, and we

1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:47.520
<v Speaker 1>ultimately really attack the community violence. Being at the shooting seems,

1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:50.680
<v Speaker 1>being at the hospitals, helping the families, and those seems

1:01:50.720 --> 1:01:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to be the things that we are grinding all the

1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:54.920
<v Speaker 1>time for UM. But if we can get to a

1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:58.880
<v Speaker 1>place at healing right and knowing that there is resolved,

1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that we don't have to, you know, always resort to violence,

1:02:02.160 --> 1:02:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that there are other options, other alternatives, and so I

1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:08.800
<v Speaker 1>think that we don't know the other alternatives. I think

1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for me is that we have so many kids, Like

1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the ages of the shooters is getting younger. To me,

1:02:18.080 --> 1:02:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like when you have twelve and thirty. I was

1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:23.680
<v Speaker 1>having a conversation with Erica four yesterday and she was

1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:27.520
<v Speaker 1>giving me until that thirteen old kid was killing the

1:02:27.640 --> 1:02:31.600
<v Speaker 1>romps and he was killed by fifteen, you know, so

1:02:31.800 --> 1:02:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like wow, Like at thirteen and fifteen, I wasn't

1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:38.520
<v Speaker 1>thinking about taking nobody's life, right, I was playing basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there was it was certain things that kept

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<v Speaker 1>my attention. Even though there was violence in the community.

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<v Speaker 1>Violence has always especially in poverished communities, Violence has always

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<v Speaker 1>occurred and been visible. But at thirteen and fourteen and fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. It wasn't the central part of the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>And this this coaches it seems so engulfed and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like me, it's just really hard, Like what what

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<v Speaker 1>did you think? I bet surprised you most like when

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<v Speaker 1>you you see and it's like wow, like because we

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<v Speaker 1>come from pretty much the same error, Like what are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that really shocked you that you've seen here

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<v Speaker 1>in this culture? Like you said, the age range is

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<v Speaker 1>getting younger. So our youth house is phil of killers.

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<v Speaker 1>Our youth house of phill of shooters um and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the emotional piece right where it seems heartless.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems emotionless, it seems careless, and it seems almost

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<v Speaker 1>business as usual. And one of the people who worked

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<v Speaker 1>for me at sharif UM's when I outreach worked as

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<v Speaker 1>then a couple of months ago, his daughter was shot

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<v Speaker 1>and killed. She was kidnapped and murdered in South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's here from New Jersey. The mother moved down there,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's fifteen years old and she was kidnapped and

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<v Speaker 1>killed by other young people who did that to her. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was her friend, a person who she thought

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<v Speaker 1>was her friend, who lured her out and her friend

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend killed her and they shot her eleven times and

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<v Speaker 1>and and bury her in a shallow grave. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought that it was just heinous and and and

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<v Speaker 1>we went to court and saw him being arranged and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, yes, sir, judge, no sir. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what is this? Like, how could you kill, kidnap, kill,

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<v Speaker 1>and shoot in all of these things and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>sense of remorse. Um, the girl was sixteen, he was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>she was fifteen, and the other boy was sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>just to see that their lives are just forever changed

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of decisions that they make. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I'm always surprised at the hainous nous and

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<v Speaker 1>how many times one people, oh, one of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>in the program got shot nine times, one person got

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<v Speaker 1>shot twenty times, the girl got shot four times. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just find that it is overkill. But I'm always wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what makes it so that tre like that you can

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<v Speaker 1>do that to somebody? What did they do? And what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shocked about is that it is a little to

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<v Speaker 1>nothing over disrespect or when you said something, or when

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<v Speaker 1>you posted a video, or when you said it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>wrap song, or you stow this car and said you

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<v Speaker 1>can drive better than me. So we have these young

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<v Speaker 1>people now in a battle over who can steal the

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<v Speaker 1>most cars and who's the better drivers, and they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>battling in neighborhoods over over stolen cars and killing each

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<v Speaker 1>other over I'm the better driver. I'm shocked at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised over that. Dude, what is your skill set?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the other thing, um, you know, I and I

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<v Speaker 1>probably focus a little bit too much on the naysayers,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, in my life, while there are many times

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<v Speaker 1>when people try to challenge us and say that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we are not um, you know, doing great work or

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<v Speaker 1>good work or any work at all, when you hear

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<v Speaker 1>the critics at times, and I'm never as disturbed by

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<v Speaker 1>the critics um as much as I am when they

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<v Speaker 1>say that we don't work on this issue or that

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<v Speaker 1>people don't care about the violence that's happening in our communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know there are people who are on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and I certainly for uh you know, since my son's

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<v Speaker 1>father has been deceased, which was uh twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been deeply engaged in this work, um and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to support others. And so maybe because some folks just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see it. Obviously, the media does not give us

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<v Speaker 1>the same attention as they do when a police officer

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<v Speaker 1>kills someone. And to be clear, UM, the police have

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<v Speaker 1>a different responsibility than young Johnny who lives in a

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<v Speaker 1>community at fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old. UM. A police

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<v Speaker 1>officer who has been trained, who has resources, UM you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who has family um themselves, that knows that should have

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<v Speaker 1>the emotional intelligence to know that taking another life, especially

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<v Speaker 1>without just cause, UM, is not right. It's and and

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<v Speaker 1>and it's something that has to be people have to

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<v Speaker 1>be held accountable for it as far as I'm concerned. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we do that work, folks pay attention and

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<v Speaker 1>they give us um some of the media at times

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<v Speaker 1>UM that we need in order to really bring to

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<v Speaker 1>awareness to the problems between community and police. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to gun violence, we often are the messaging,

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<v Speaker 1>the marching, the protesting, UM, the begging for funds, the

1:07:33.280 --> 1:07:37.800
<v Speaker 1>organizing people who are out there stopping shootings that goes

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<v Speaker 1>without notice, m even by some of our own communities.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's it's really a place for me that's

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<v Speaker 1>very sensitive. And when I hear people saying the work

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<v Speaker 1>is not being done, nobody's focused on that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>about people like Ukisha, and I think about, um, how

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<v Speaker 1>you said you got started a long time ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've been with May of Barrock since he was a principle,

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<v Speaker 1>which is many, many years ago. And so what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering is what is your skills set so that people

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<v Speaker 1>will know this is what you can do. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>where I started and where I am today. So my

1:08:15.600 --> 1:08:19.000
<v Speaker 1>skill set is is an organizer. Right I started on

1:08:19.040 --> 1:08:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the grounds many years ago. Um I organized. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>chair for the North Anti Violence Covolition. But before that,

1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:28.000
<v Speaker 1>right I was in the New Black Panther Party and

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<v Speaker 1>before that, you know, so organizing people in the community

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<v Speaker 1>has has been um my passion. But by trade and

1:08:36.120 --> 1:08:40.120
<v Speaker 1>by education, I'm a social worker. I'm a licensed clinical

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<v Speaker 1>social work. I have a master's degree in social work.

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<v Speaker 1>But my heart and my passion is organizing people. So

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<v Speaker 1>then they say is say the work is not being done.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell them that's not true, because we've got people

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<v Speaker 1>who are on the front lines all the time. People

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<v Speaker 1>know sleep because people don't understand what it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>organize people. They don't understand that the phone calls have

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, that we at the hospitals with people, were

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<v Speaker 1>at the funerals with people, were organizing the funerals, we're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>we're calling the mayors, and we're doing all of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that the behind the scenes that it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>get in front of the cameras or to make the

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<v Speaker 1>awareness happen. So when I first joined the North Anti

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<v Speaker 1>Violence Coalition, the way that we brought attention to violence

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<v Speaker 1>was by going into the streets and stopping the traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we stopped the traffic for a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five weeks in the raw, rain, sleeps now, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter the weather condition to bring awareness to it for

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<v Speaker 1>families who wasn't our own families. And so as as

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<v Speaker 1>we're out there and we're saying we can't have business

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<v Speaker 1>as usual, there are women being killed, their children being killed,

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<v Speaker 1>the police of brutalizing people, and we can't let it

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<v Speaker 1>be swept under the rug. These were not our families

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<v Speaker 1>per se, but we we we stepped in the gap

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<v Speaker 1>for people, um. And so they were thankful because there

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<v Speaker 1>was another voice to help them to uplift the voices

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<v Speaker 1>of their the voice list that that was there, um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the work is being done. The work has always

1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:09.200
<v Speaker 1>been done, um and and people have to join in, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't join in until it lands on their

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<v Speaker 1>door steps. And so our people, I would say, have

1:10:14.560 --> 1:10:17.920
<v Speaker 1>to be more compassionate and aware of what happens behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes and what it takes um in order to

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<v Speaker 1>organize to get some things done. We were policy changes, right,

1:10:25.120 --> 1:10:27.720
<v Speaker 1>We try to get policies changed. And so had I

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<v Speaker 1>known about policy change fifteen years ago, then I would

1:10:32.120 --> 1:10:34.960
<v Speaker 1>certainly be a bit better off than than I am now.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we don't learn. There's there's no training, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no school that you go to to teach you how

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<v Speaker 1>to be an organizer, to teach you how to be

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<v Speaker 1>an activist. And they see activism as people who are troublemakers.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not troublemakers, but we have to be in

1:10:50.560 --> 1:10:53.920
<v Speaker 1>order to have our voices heard. And so unless it's aggressive,

1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:56.799
<v Speaker 1>people don't always understand it. Don't always have to be aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>or when you see it, it's because there has been

1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:04.840
<v Speaker 1>UM a dismissal happening long and so now then we

1:11:05.000 --> 1:11:08.920
<v Speaker 1>have to meet aggression with aggression sometimes. And so people

1:11:09.000 --> 1:11:14.000
<v Speaker 1>don't understand activism. People don't understand civics, people don't understand law,

1:11:14.479 --> 1:11:18.360
<v Speaker 1>people don't understand order UM. And so when they see

1:11:18.400 --> 1:11:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the ones of us who are out there who are

1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:23.519
<v Speaker 1>flying from city to city UM helping other people who

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<v Speaker 1>are UM who don't get to the divisions and get

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<v Speaker 1>the media, and it's hard because I certainly know that

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<v Speaker 1>you catch backlash. I know that people catch backlash when

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like you're benefiting right from the movement, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're getting a little bit of something, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>being paid or whatever it is. But it's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the cost that I paid to have to

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<v Speaker 1>get on the flight, to get the hotel, to get

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<v Speaker 1>the rental cars, you know, to do all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the guy who I just told you about

1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:56.000
<v Speaker 1>daughter got shot and killed in in South Carolina, we

1:11:56.120 --> 1:11:58.920
<v Speaker 1>went down there, and it called right for us to

1:11:58.960 --> 1:12:02.000
<v Speaker 1>be down here. The missing person flyers. We're knocking on doors,

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<v Speaker 1>we we were there for weeks, she was she was

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<v Speaker 1>missing for twenty five days. Right, we have to push

1:12:09.680 --> 1:12:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the police, and we're going from county to county and

1:12:12.000 --> 1:12:15.920
<v Speaker 1>police department to police department, and those things take. It

1:12:16.040 --> 1:12:20.000
<v Speaker 1>takes skill, it takes ingenuity, it takes energy, it takes sleep,

1:12:20.280 --> 1:12:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it takes resources. It takes all of those things to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to bring about change. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want people to dismiss the skills that it takes for

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<v Speaker 1>those things to happen, but the energy and the passion

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<v Speaker 1>because many of us this has been on our doorsteps

1:12:33.880 --> 1:12:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and we're trying to stop it from landing on other

1:12:35.880 --> 1:12:39.559
<v Speaker 1>people's doorsteps. Let me just ask this this last question,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course my son don't have anything else, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is uh an important question. My son

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<v Speaker 1>asked you earlier. What shocks me? And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what are you most proud of? Of all the

1:12:52.000 --> 1:12:55.840
<v Speaker 1>things that you're you you're doing at this time, what

1:12:56.000 --> 1:12:58.360
<v Speaker 1>are you most proud of? It? It makes you go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep at night saying or what No matter what

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<v Speaker 1>happens out there, I know, I try, so what makes

1:13:06.040 --> 1:13:08.720
<v Speaker 1>me most proud is knowing and then I speak even

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<v Speaker 1>for for the mayor. On one side of this is

1:13:11.920 --> 1:13:14.760
<v Speaker 1>that we've lost parents, right, So he's lost his father.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my mom and my dad, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that our um passion that keeps us doing this work

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<v Speaker 1>is that we stand on the shoulders of people before us,

1:13:23.800 --> 1:13:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that we have to make proud, that people who are

1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:28.160
<v Speaker 1>proud of us, that we can't let down and we

1:13:28.240 --> 1:13:30.960
<v Speaker 1>can't embarrass them. And so what makes me proud is

1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:33.360
<v Speaker 1>knowing that my mother and father is proud of the

1:13:33.479 --> 1:13:37.760
<v Speaker 1>decisions that I make. My brother Um is in jail now,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been shot by the police, he's been shot

1:13:41.040 --> 1:13:44.280
<v Speaker 1>by community people, and he's probably even been the shooter.

1:13:44.920 --> 1:13:47.559
<v Speaker 1>But I'm proud to know that I didn't let those

1:13:47.640 --> 1:13:50.960
<v Speaker 1>things change my heart, to know to do what's right,

1:13:51.080 --> 1:13:55.120
<v Speaker 1>regardless of in the face of um, in the face

1:13:55.360 --> 1:13:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of change, in the face of adversity, and so I

1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:03.519
<v Speaker 1>drive to do what's best for the people after me

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<v Speaker 1>and to be able to be an example. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what makes me proud that I think that my parents

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<v Speaker 1>and people who poured into me. I have people from

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<v Speaker 1>my neighborhood who poured into me, who taught me UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's what keeps me going That's what inspires

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<v Speaker 1>me and motivates me, is that I have people who

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<v Speaker 1>depend on me, and every decision that I make their

1:14:25.080 --> 1:14:27.439
<v Speaker 1>life depends on it as well, and so I make

1:14:27.520 --> 1:14:31.200
<v Speaker 1>decisions based on their lives. Well, I'm proud to say

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<v Speaker 1>that I know you and that I work with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're amazing person. It's good to understand. It's good

1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to know that we have people like you that that

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<v Speaker 1>do the work for the same reason we do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all the backlash, all in that whatever in

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<v Speaker 1>the world would not stop me from doing this work

1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:48.200
<v Speaker 1>because I understand that our people need this work done

1:14:48.640 --> 1:14:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and whatever you know, and most of our leaders will

1:14:51.000 --> 1:14:54.360
<v Speaker 1>criticize and receive backlash if you're not you know, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, if you didn't do real work, if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't been ostracized or criticized for the work that

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<v Speaker 1>you do, if you you're not doing anything that's life changing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, on the cusp of something that's new,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you do new work and you take

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<v Speaker 1>new strategies and you decide, you know, I'm gonna following

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<v Speaker 1>my heart and do this way, they're gonna be people

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<v Speaker 1>that are they says, So I just want to say

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<v Speaker 1>that we are glad to have you on the front

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<v Speaker 1>lines and have you on street politicians. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>you back up here one time, especially when we get

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<v Speaker 1>when we say we do it on in person, we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have you come to the studio man and just

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<v Speaker 1>get you know, and we just want to say we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your work man, keep doing what you do. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Titia. We appreciate you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And it feels good to be able to highlight your

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<v Speaker 1>work because I know that you wear it on your sleeve. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I have to be the one to

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<v Speaker 1>say because I think it's important, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor would say as well. With all that he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do and the fact that he's folding a million directions.

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<v Speaker 1>As my son said, um, you know when when we

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<v Speaker 1>first bought you on uh, he has he has responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>that are beyond violence prevention and intervention. And to have

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<v Speaker 1>a strong black woman sitting in this seat helping to

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<v Speaker 1>coordinate and organized people. I know it makes the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>proud as well. That's why he mentioned you during his interview.

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<v Speaker 1>And we want to do it that we can to

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<v Speaker 1>support you and to make sure that you are able

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the santama and the energy to keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>And so thanks again, thanks for talking with us and

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<v Speaker 1>know that we are here. The show is here, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are also here personally to support you. Absolutely. I

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for for bringing me on. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the mayor for the opportunity. I think that when

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<v Speaker 1>he first presented that he was going to do Office

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<v Speaker 1>of Violence Prevention and he presented it to all the directors,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody raised their hands and wanted the job, and they

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<v Speaker 1>said give it to Keisha. So I think so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Um, that it was just for me, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know that was for us is for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I thank you so much for being partners

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<v Speaker 1>in this work, Um, and for holding a line. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you, Hey care, thank you. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what was interesting about Keisha and what she

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, and you know, we didn't get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to it, but she talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>the new work that they're doing in terms of taking

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<v Speaker 1>one of the precincts and turning it into a violence

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<v Speaker 1>intervention and prevention space where they will have all the

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<v Speaker 1>services and people can actually walk in and access the

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<v Speaker 1>things that they need like mental health services and job

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<v Speaker 1>placement and what have you. She said that that came

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<v Speaker 1>about as a result of the defund police movement. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't miss that because she was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the George Floyd protests. Therefore, what we all know

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<v Speaker 1>is that people started calling for the police to be

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<v Speaker 1>defunded across the nation where we can take some of

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<v Speaker 1>the resources. And as you entitled it UH some time ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see many people are picking it up and

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<v Speaker 1>using the title refunding the community, refund the people. And

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<v Speaker 1>so as a direct connection between the movement for UH

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<v Speaker 1>for police accountability, there has been this work to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>violence in our communities and we have, unfortunately those who

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<v Speaker 1>try their best for many different reasons. I think some

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<v Speaker 1>people just don't know and don't understand, but others are

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly trying to UH make you know, create a different narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you really focus and pay attention to the progress,

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<v Speaker 1>the natural progression the police accountability movement in many places

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<v Speaker 1>has turned into folks doing more to support community efforts

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<v Speaker 1>which will ultimately bring down by So I was happy

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<v Speaker 1>to hear her talk about that, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is it is an example of how our movements connect

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<v Speaker 1>and why we as people who are frustrated, especially who

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily sendally see the changes that we're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>How we need to um, you know, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that there is that In no way should be

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<v Speaker 1>be looking at one part of the movement and believing

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<v Speaker 1>that it is not connected to the entire pie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. That's why I don't get it

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<v Speaker 1>you pretty much. I don't get how people just don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the fund the police. I don't get how you

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<v Speaker 1>don't see the direct correlation between poverty and violence. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get how you don't understand if you don't put

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<v Speaker 1>resources in communities, and you don't give kids access to

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities and things that keep them out of the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't put basketballs in their hands, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>put computers in their hands, if you don't give them

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<v Speaker 1>skill sets, if you don't provide them with different opportunities,

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<v Speaker 1>then you actually literally putting guns in there. In So,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get how this doesn't make sense to people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get how you can look at communities where

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<v Speaker 1>people are well to do all over this country, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's black people, white people, or ethnicities. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what your ethnicity is. When you're in a community that

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<v Speaker 1>is thriving, there is less crime and violence, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>less police participation. There's less police um presence inside of

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<v Speaker 1>communities where people are well to do. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>a this is common sense, but people want to act

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<v Speaker 1>like they don't get it. Because what happens is this

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<v Speaker 1>economy that we live in is built off crime, is

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<v Speaker 1>built of violence. The whole injustice system has to run.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have anybody to lock up and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no crime, then they're not able to make these billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars in industries that they make that are based

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<v Speaker 1>on the fact that crime is being committed. So they

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<v Speaker 1>have to have impoverished communities. They have to have kids

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<v Speaker 1>who don't have opportunities who see violence and crime is

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<v Speaker 1>the only way out. Two things. They have to create

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<v Speaker 1>cultures of violence, Like teachers said, that's one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>The culture. They had to create, the culture of violence.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to make that violence um utilize as a

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<v Speaker 1>way out of your circumstances. When I talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>old time, we talked about the music. People say the

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<v Speaker 1>music and this and that. The music is what it

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<v Speaker 1>is because people see that you are celebrated for violence.

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<v Speaker 1>They're only giving record deals. And I said it again

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<v Speaker 1>and I said before, they're only giving record deals to

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<v Speaker 1>those people who are active in the streets, who are

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<v Speaker 1>really the shooters, who are really the robbers. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have to have a skill set, but if you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a real crime that actually was committed, and

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<v Speaker 1>you put that on a track they promoted right so

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<v Speaker 1>that people see why real crime and real active street

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<v Speaker 1>mess is what's gonna get me out of my circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get me out of hood, which is a short

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<v Speaker 1>lived strategy because ut is usually it's what's been happening lately.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as they are getting these record deals and

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<v Speaker 1>they get out the community, they get lots up for

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<v Speaker 1>the crimes that they talked about when they get shot

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<v Speaker 1>and killed by the person who they shot, brother or

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<v Speaker 1>cousin or family member or somebody who sees them as

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<v Speaker 1>an opt So you know, we gotta really understand what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that we're dealing. Man. It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>full fledged, multi prong process to stop violence in our communities.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it seems like I agree with you everything

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<v Speaker 1>you said, and I and it seems that uh Maya

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<v Speaker 1>Baraca has the right strategy. H. He has the right

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<v Speaker 1>idea of what has to take place in order to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that UM we're not looking at locking more people

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<v Speaker 1>up and or having police violence, UM be the strategy

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<v Speaker 1>for addressing issues that's happened in our community. UM. When

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<v Speaker 1>I hear Keisha talking about mental health support, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that our young people need that because if for no

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<v Speaker 1>other reason, they must be traumatized by what they see

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<v Speaker 1>in the palm of their hands on their cell phones

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<v Speaker 1>every single day, whether it be violence, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>issues that's happening in the community, whether it be a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of hopelessness. And then, of course, as may Baracca

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<v Speaker 1>said coming out of uh the the pandemic, UM, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that people are in a real dire situation mentally, physically, emotionally,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there's a lot of work to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Lakeisha Yuri having her as the woman

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<v Speaker 1>that is behind the man may and Ross Barrocca, Newark

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<v Speaker 1>is going to quickly become an example of what can

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<v Speaker 1>be done to strengthen communities and how we in violence

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<v Speaker 1>not by being more violent, but actually by providing people

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<v Speaker 1>with the services and resources that they need in order

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<v Speaker 1>to feel whole. And with that being said, that brings

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<v Speaker 1>us to another episode Street Politicians and other powerful episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to think our guests for being here. You know,

1:23:53.160 --> 1:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the work that they're doing needs to be highlighted. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about what our communities need and we need leadership

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<v Speaker 1>like we see today. So once again, tune in if

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<v Speaker 1>you have any episodes or ideas for topics that you

1:24:08.080 --> 1:24:10.160
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<v Speaker 1>don't like something about me, if I pitched you off,

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<v Speaker 1>send us, send us everything you know. I could take it.

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<v Speaker 1>My skin is thick, you know. But once again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna always be right. This Mega Mallery is not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna always be wrong, but most of the times she

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<v Speaker 1>will be. But we will both always and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>always be or the true number one show in the world,

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