WEBVTT - WellsCast: Katie Stevens 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.440 Roll that beautiful bean footage does. This is a Wells 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:09.879 cast with Wells Adams and I heart radio podcast favorite 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:15.160 But okay, that's how are you doing doing good today? 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.120 I'm so excited about today's episode, and I'll tell you why. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.800 I mean, I always interview people who I think are 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:25.040 interesting and cool and I want to hear their story, 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:28.360 but I very rarely interview people who are actually my friends. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:30.880 And I think that we do that for a couple 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.839 of reasons. One, I don't like to ask my friends 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:35.640 to come on the show because it's like I gotta 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.240 ask for a favor, you know, It's just I don't 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.280 do it. So I don't book this show. I have 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.920 the good people over at my heart booked the show 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.080 for me, and you know, every once in a while, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.839 the stars will align and I'll get someone on the 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.519 show who is like an actual friend of mine, and 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.680 then it kind of raises the stakes for me because 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.800 I don't want to sound stupid in front of my friends. 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.320 You know, I wanted to think I'm good at this. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:00.800 Oh God, they're gonna judge me. But I'm not really 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.440 worried about that because our guest today really is one 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.280 of the most wonderful women I've ever met in the 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:10.600 entire world. She is the sweetest, the nicest, the most talented, 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.000 and she is a dear, dear friend of my fiancee. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:19.760 And by rules of modern day relationships, if so facts so, 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.200 she is now a close friend of mine. Her story 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:28.119 is crazy. Wasn't the typical like grew up in Calabasas. 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.960 Uncle was a producer, gut her on some show. No, 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.280 she worked hard, started off on a reality show that 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.319 really focused on her singing. I think she kind of 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.880 thought that was gonna be her path until she realized 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.240 that maybe music wasn't her passion and acting was very 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.280 few people I've been able to pivot from American idol 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.960 to lead of a very very popular TV show. She 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.480 was able to do it. Her story is bonkers. She's 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.400 absolutely lovely. Let's get into it. One of my favorite 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.400 people in the world, the star of the bull type, 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.960 my porta sister, Katie Stevens. Here on the Wells Cast, guys, 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.560 is when you are not going to want to stick 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:16.200 around minute, all right, welcome back to the Wells Cast. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.440 This very rarely happens one because I don't have a 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.040 lot of friends and uh too because I don't book 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.480 the show myself, and I would never ask my friends 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.880 to be on the show. But I am so excited. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.640 I think this is the first time ever on the 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:33.440 show that I'm legitimately friends with this person, Like she 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.760 comes over to our house, I went to her wedding, 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.640 and I cannot tell you how pomped I am to 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.320 have the one and only Katie Stevens on this show. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.000 How are you? This is so fun. I like watching 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.520 you do what you do. Yeah, you've never actually seen 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.560 me like be professional. Probably well, I mean I've like 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.400 watched you, you know, host carpets. You know, I've listened 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.720 to your podcast, but like to be on it, and 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.919 like watching it is really fun. I think you're the 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:07.040 only friend of Sarah's that is referred to by both names. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.560 You are Katie Stevens. Like that's like a common theme 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.760 for like many people, Like many people call me Katie Stevens. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.080 But I think it's just because like it's easy to say, 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.919 you know, like I still go by even though I'm married, 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.359 I still go by Katie Stevens because like Katie di 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:28.280 Giovanni is like really hard to say, and like you 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.920 spell that out for anybody and like they don't know 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.160 how to say it weirdly enough to me, I attribute 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.560 it to like the cool kids in school were the 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.760 double name people. Oh well that's weird because I was 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.240 not like a cool kid in school. Well, you have 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.760 blossomed because you're doing pretty good. I feel like this 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:52.200 is almost a bitter sweet conversation that we get to 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.440 have because I haven't seen you in a while, and 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.400 we get to talk about like your success, but also 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.760 like this show, The Bold Type, which has been like 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.200 this force on free form for so long, is now 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:07.080 finally coming to an end. Are you relieve that it's 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.640 kind of getting wrapped up or you bumming? It's a mixture, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.320 It's I mean, bitter sweet is the word that I've 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.560 been using, because you know, it's sad to it's it's 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.040 more so that it's sad to not see those same 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.719 people that you've seen forever. And you know, I remember 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.120 when I found out that it was the last season 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.440 I actually talked to Sarah, but Sarah had done, you know, 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.720 a million more seasons, and I can't even imagine how 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.280 infinitely greater that feeling is. But it is also I 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.440 feel really grateful that you know, five seasons. A lot 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.360 of people don't get five seasons. And then on top 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.000 of that, to go into the final season knowing it's 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.720 the end and getting to like wrap it up. There's 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:48.840 like some feeling that you get when you're on set 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.200 where you're like, oh, I know this is ending, so 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.560 I'm going to be really intentional and like present with 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.640 all of these people so I can like soak in 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.440 all of these moments. Yeah, five seasons is a rarity 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.920 these days in the entertainment industry, or eleven for Sarah, 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.400 So you have to be pumped about like the run 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.960 of the show. COVID. I feel like played a big 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:15.080 role in your Guys show, Like you guys were filming 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.240 and then COVID hit, and then you guys had to 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.520 like stop and then like come back. Tell us about 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.039 that experience, because it seems wild. It was the middle 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.400 of a work day. We had like ten days left 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.000 of filming our last two episodes of last season, and 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.279 in the middle of one work day, I had to 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.000 leave early because I was flying to l A for press. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.480 So I flew into l A. I landed, and my 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.520 team was kind of like, you know this COVID nineteen 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.640 thing is getting, you know, to seem pretty serious. Things 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.280 might cancel, just like kind of be on your toes, 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.160 go through the day. The next morning, I wake up 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.480 and I do glam and everything at like five thirty 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.360 in the morning, and I get a call from my 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:02.120 publicist at seven being like, every thing has canceled. You're 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.640 here for no reason. And then production was calling because 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.479 they needed me to get back on a plane to 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.120 go back to Montreal in case they were closing the borders. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.760 And then I landed in Montreal and I was going 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:18.600 through customs and our producer called me and was like, hey, um, 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.280 you gotta go home tomorrow because everything shutting down. We're 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.920 shutting down production, so go back to your apartment, pack 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.040 up your stuff, and uh, we'll get you on a 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.680 flight in the morning. And so I went back to 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.240 my apartment and in the span of like three hours, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.960 packed up nine months of living in Montreal and went 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.320 home the next morning. And it was so weird because 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.960 like we had we all were like so confused. So 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.960 the whole cast that night, we like all got together 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.560 and we were like, well, I don't know when we're 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.200 going to see each other again, so I might as 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.040 well burn it down, So we all like drank tons 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.440 of wine and like I made dinner, and then we 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.440 all left and didn't see each other for almost a year. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:05.400 Was there a thought that the show wouldn't survive COVID? Yeah, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.120 I mean that was a that was a big fear, 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.720 especially because we shoot the show in another country. So 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.720 we didn't really know because because some one thing that 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.000 I learned by being up there is you're not following 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:20.640 United States CDC guidelines like you're following Canadian guidelines. And 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.360 I know that they had closed the borders for a 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.040 really long time. And then thankfully, a couple of months 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.000 before we were supposed to go up and shoot, they 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.200 had opened the borders if you had a work permit, 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.520 so we were thankfully able to like go back there. 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.160 But I mean, the COVID protocols there were so intense. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.800 We left in the middle of April just now, and 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.040 they were still eight p m. Curfews. All of the 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:47.680 restaurants were closed. So for the fifteen weeks that we 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.720 were up there, we were just literally thank god we 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.200 all lived in the same apartment building, Me and Megan 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.440 and Asia, because we only saw each other. But if 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.480 I didn't have that, like I wouldn't be able to 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.520 do anything. I would have died. We all know I'm 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:06.120 very social. Tomorrow night is the beginning of the end. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.040 Are you going to experience and absorb the show differently 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.200 now that it's the last season? I mean, I I 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.080 actually because I'm I'm in l A. So I mean 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.120 maybe I'll like do watch parties with my friends here. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.040 But last week two of my girlfriends they were like, 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.880 we want to watch, you know, the premiere episodes since 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.720 we won't be able to be with you on premiere night. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.320 So the other night I had a bunch of friends 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.520 my friend hosted at her house, and we were there 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.200 with like our husbands, who like, they all are awesome 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.160 and they have watched the show in its entirety like 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.800 with their wives, so like they were really game, which 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.880 was cool because you know, not really their demographic, but 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.520 good sports about it. And so we just watched and 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.920 drank a ton of wine. And I intend to continue 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.240 that and gonna need people around me for the final 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:01.200 episode because I'll be inconsolable. Probably. Are you happy with 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:06.040 how it wraps itself up? I am um. The writers 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.760 came to me and they were like, hey, this is 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.520 how we're thinking of ending Jane's story. What do you think? 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.840 And I was really pumped about it, So I'm excited 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.720 for fans to see it. I think that all of 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.000 the girls end up exactly where they're supposed to, and 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.920 so I hope that everybody sees it as the love 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.680 letter that it was intended to be. If you haven't 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.200 watched The Bold Type, you know it's a show that 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:32.160 like Sarah watches. I mean, I think because she's friends 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.680 with you, it's also like very much like a Sarah show. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.880 If so facts So I watched the show, and I 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.520 will say that in the same way that Sex and 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.760 the City drew me in, Your Guys Show has done 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.720 the same thing where I find myself like rooting for 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.200 characters and hating characters and it's a really really fun 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.400 ride that I think that Your Guys Show takes you on. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.840 The most powerful thing about I feel like the show 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.720 is it really is empowering for women. When you get 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.880 offered to do a show like this, Is that like 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.360 the thing that you're thinking about, Oh my god, this 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.200 is going to be really empowering for a lot of 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.680 young women, or is it just need a job a 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.160 little bit of both. I mean when I booked this show, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.680 I had just the other show I was on, Faking It, 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.080 had just been canceled. So I think that I was 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:24.920 really lucky that this came around so quickly. I remember 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.079 um having a meeting at free Form because like after 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:33.400 you basically get fired from another job when something gets canceled, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.320 you have to go on all these meetings to other 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.200 casting people from different networks and stuff, and it's like 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.040 a really weird and awkward thing because you're like sitting 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.520 in front of people and you're like, please think I'm 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.600 great and put me in something. And I sat down 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.600 at free Form and they were like, we love faking It. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.200 Here are some shows that we're doing, and they like 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.920 pitched the show originally was called Issues, and they were like, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.559 it's kind of like Sex in the City meets Devilwares 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.360 product And I was like, wow, two things I really love. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.800 And then when I read the script, like I wasn't 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:10.959 expecting to feel so empowered by it, Like it sounded 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.880 just like, oh, that's a fun concept. And I even 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.120 even from the pilot, I couldn't have imagined like where 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.280 the show would go in terms of like talking about 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:24.319 important issues, but like still being funny and still being lighthearted, 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:28.320 and you know, I think that we found that kind 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.760 of niche which was really cool. But it definitely was 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.400 the initial part of it was definitely like I need 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.400 a job. Please think I'm right for this. I talked 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.480 to Sara about this a lot. I'm not the head 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:44.600 of any studio, but I do believe that the trick 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:49.000 to making a successful show is having all team players 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.640 working on the thing be friends on and off camera. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.839 I think this comes from like my reality TV world, 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:01.040 where like authenticity is just so evident. Even if you're 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.760 an amazing actor, I still feel like the audience can 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.000 pick up like whether or not you actually like these people, 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.680 or like it's a true bond, you know with modern 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:14.040 Sarah like loved Jesse. Tyler can't say more nice things 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:18.200 about Tyberelle. I had looking ask her mom on the 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.520 show if it was okay to marry here, like it 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.559 was a truly like tight knit crew. And then after 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.360 going to your wedding and meeting your co stars, it 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.240 seems like and I don't really know, I don't really 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.600 know them that well. We went to a beer festival 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.200 after your wedding, but like it seemed like to me 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.840 that you guys really do have like this really tight 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:41.199 knit bond. I mean, first of all, asking anybody to 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.520 fly from Canada to Nashville, like that's an entire day 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.880 of travel. Like they had to love me to go 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.640 to my wedding, and every single one of them was there, 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.920 and it like was so amazing to have them all there. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.319 I entirely agree, Like I don't think if we didn't 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.600 like each other, I don't think that the show would 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.360 have done what it did. And it's not to say 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.320 that we don't like bicker like sisters and you know, 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.080 get piste off at each other and like have moments 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:11.560 where I'm like, I don't want to talk to you 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.600 right now, Like we absolutely do. But so is life. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.560 When you spend nine months out of a year with 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.920 the same group of people for you know, five years, 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.360 you can always tell. I can always tell when I 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.120 watch a show and I'm like, oh, that actor is 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.600 difficult or you know, and I'm also like, what a 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:33.079 bad vibe. I Like, I get nervous for whatever is 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.280 next because I'm like what if I get anxiety about 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:40.160 thinking about what if somebody's like not cool, Like what 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.320 what if I have like a love interest who sucks? 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.520 Or what if I have to play best friends with 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:49.000 somebody that I can't stand? I like mostly everybody, but 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.000 like I can't say that, like people won't find me annoying, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.040 or won't you know, not want to be around me, 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.040 or maybe they're not people people. So it does give 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.800 me anxieties. Somebody asked us in an interview, how do 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.160 you feel thinking about the next time you walk on 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.280 a set, it's not going to be with these two people? 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.640 And it didn't register to me until she said that, 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.720 and I was like, got punch. The final season The 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:15.800 Bold Type. It's on free Form Wednesday's ten pm Eastern. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.160 If you don't have a pretty form, you can watch 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:21.640 it on Hulu and I think even YouTube TV. It's 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:25.080 a truly wonderful show. Most of my demo is female, 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.480 so this is a good show for everyone listening. But 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.960 if you're like me and a guy, I also think 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.880 that you would really really enjoy it, because I really 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.360 enjoy the show. Is there any thought of a movie 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.320 down the road? Oh, We've talked about it a million times. 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.400 I've already been like, hey, Wendy, our showrun around, like 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.560 just like start thinking about writing it. Like we all 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.680 kind of need a couple of years off, but like 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.000 I know that every single person who's a part of 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.800 the show is like super down to do that. And 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.280 I'm like Sex in the City did three of them, 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.560 you can do one, and you guys all like each other. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:02.200 So it's Aisha always says that, like we want to 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.600 leave that door open for when we're all struggling to 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.560 collect coins in years that we could be like, hey, um, 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.840 we need jobs. You want to do a type movie? 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.840 I like it? Anything else you want to talk about 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.600 the show before we pivot over to my portion of 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.360 the podcast. I realized this morning that I haven't talked 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.680 about this, but my brother is on the in the 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:28.920 first two episodes. Yeah, and it's really fun because he's 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.320 been auditioning for the show, and like it was really 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.040 important to him that like he got the role not 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.120 because he was my brother, So I kind of like, 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.000 even though I put in a good word, I like 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:40.920 kind of like took a step back and so he 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:45.200 got this role, which was also awesome because it's not 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.120 any scenes with me. He got to like have his 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.120 own experience of it, which was really fun. But it 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.440 was just so exciting because I like got to just 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.640 like chill like a stage mom behind set and just 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.840 be like watching him, And it was just awesome to 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.560 be on set because I've always said I want to 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.480 be like the Jillen Halls and the que Sacks and stuff. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.120 He's like brothers, sister Duo's what part does he play 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.160 in the show? So he plays a character called Joey 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.600 Falk who at the end of last season, the Alex 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:21.000 character got called out in an article online and basically 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.880 this guy questioned his like masculinity because he didn't step 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.000 up for his girlfriend in this moment where she was 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:31.280 being harassed, and so because Alex's feelings were hurt, he 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:35.160 decided to go on a deep dive of Joey's Instagram 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.880 or Twitter and found like a homophobic tweet from the 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.880 past and like resurfaced it even though it had been 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.280 like eight years ago. It's actually like a really cool 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.240 story that I think, um, you know, not just because 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.080 I'm excited my brother's on the show, but I think 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:55.240 cancel culture is really crazy right now, and it's kind 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.680 of a story about how, like, yes, there are certain 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.040 situations where there are people that do or to be canceled. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.280 But if somebody said something, you know, ten twenty years 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.840 ago that was hurtful and that they regret, but they've 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.320 done so many things that are good in the world 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.399 from that point to try to like grow and become 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.479 a better person from that's also a part of the 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.879 equation that needs acknowledging, because if somebody's like doing the work, 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.160 isn't the point of bringing out somebody's flaws that they 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.560 can learn from them and become better. It's a cool 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.840 conversation that I really love that we kind of create 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:32.880 for people to have on the show. I think it's 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.600 awesome that you guys are tackling that and yeah, what 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:40.120 an amazingly timely issue. That's awesome for your brother as well, 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:44.399 so tell him congratulations for me. Okay, we're gonna take 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:45.840 a quick break. I don't even know if you know 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.840 what this show is, but it's origin stories. I'm just 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.840 fascinated with where people came from and how the hell 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.000 they got here. I want to hear your entire journey 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.080 to getting onto this stupid podcast for those people out 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.000 there that only no Oh Katie from the bold type, 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.199 I feel like You're gonna be shocked to hear what 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.200 happened beforehand. Maybe not, though I don't know you Down 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.600 with that down? All right? Quick? Breat we come back 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.639 Katie Stevens from The Bold Type Here on the Wells Cast. 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.760 Back in the Wells Cast, Star of the Bold Type, 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.919 which airs on free Form Wednesdays at ten pm Eastern. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.280 You can also watch it on Hulu. The final season 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:40.240 begins airing tomorrow May six. It is an absolute phenomenal show. 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.160 It's funny, it's got heart. They talk about serious stuff. 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.359 You said it before, which I think is a good 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.480 analogy for it. It's Sex and the City meets Devilwars 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.920 product and it's also really empowering for young women who 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:59.720 are trying to carve out amazing career in a male 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.000 dominated world. And I think it's just a really, really 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.800 great show. And I'm sad it's ending, but I'm happy 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.200 that it allows me the chance to talk to you. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.760 I am so excited because I've been friends now with 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.760 you for a couple of years. But I don't really 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:17.560 know the intricacies of your genesis, like your origin story. 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.320 What part of it do you want to know? I 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:21.960 want to know all of it. Here's what I know 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:26.800 about Katie. Katie is Portuguese like me. She can speak 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.240 Portuguese fluently, which I cannot do, which is embarrassing. I 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.399 know you went on a reality TV show, and I 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.400 know then you pivoted over and became this like powerhouse actress. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.080 And I know that you're like best friends with my 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.520 fiance and your husband is like the coolest and I 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.280 like him a whole lot. I want to hang out 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.720 with him more. So let's go back to the beginning. 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.880 You're from You're from the East Coast, right, Yes, I'm 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:53.520 from Connecticut. And we talked about your brother earlier. Is 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.200 it only you two or are there are other siblings? 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.760 It's just the two of us. And then I also 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.000 know that since we did our DNA tests, there have 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.520 been no other children that have popped up, So yes, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:10.400 two of us. That's like a thing though like that happens, 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:14.440 it does. Okay, So you were born in Connecticut? Where 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.400 you are you the older of the two or the 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.879 younger of the two. I'm actually the youngest, and like 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:24.239 everyone's always shocked by that for some reason. And my 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.920 brother will always say, like, I'm older, but she's older. Yeah, 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.960 I love that I have a sibling. Um, I have 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.040 a couple of friends that are only children and they're 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:37.119 also thriving. But I feel like when the time comes 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.439 to have children, like, based on how me and my 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.679 brother grew up, I was like, I want my I 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:44.439 want my kid to have a buddy. Yeah, I'm the 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.239 youngest of five. It's important to have a bunch of 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.520 other assholes around you, if nothing else, to make you 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.439 look a little bit better, because there's always you know, 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.679 there's always one, especially if you're all older than you. 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.800 They all they all like mess up way before you. 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.240 So it's like you watch them make mistakes and then 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.280 it's not that you don't make the same ones, you 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.000 just like get better at hiding it. Yeah, my parents 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.119 have stopped caring. Really by the time I came around, 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.399 Were you always an entertaining child? Were youth putting on 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:16.840 plays or singing for anyone who would listen? Growing up? 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.320 I mean, yeah, my parents when my brother and I 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.879 were really young, they were trying to figure out like 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.719 a summer camp for us to go to because they 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.679