1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: From executive producers Daniel Ramidez and myself Eva Longoria. Sisters 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: of the Underground tells the powerful story of the middle 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: of our sisters, real life Latina's who sacrificed everything for 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: the fight for freedom, thinking about your children nearby and 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: thinking about him and every generation after them. This is 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: a love story between two and between a country and 7 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: between the future because they knew they were fighting for us. 8 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: So I hope that people see this and see what's 9 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: happening in our country now and go wait, I could 10 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: participate in a bigger way, Yes, because these women did. 11 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: The young women of these were old need to see 12 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: stories like this, creating an army of history around our children. 13 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: The inspiring part was definitely learning the history about the 14 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: Metabows and how amazing it was and what they've been 15 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: through and how much they suffered. But they were so 16 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: strong during this whole time. A most restan talk on me, 17 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: monsieur b m Beneathos and welcome to the final bonus 18 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: episode of Sisters of the Underground. I'm Daniel Ramides one 19 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: of the executive producers of the podcast, and I also 20 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: play me new the narrator. Today you will hear from 21 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: some of the powerful voices behind this show. I feel 22 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: very great to have partner up with Eva Longoria. You know, 23 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Eva and I share a passion for stories that will 24 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: empower the Latin voice in America and in the world. Really, 25 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: I know that this needs no introduction at this point, 26 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: but here's me and Eva talking about it. It was 27 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: really serendipitous because I had just met whole Maria in 28 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: a random Somebody goes, you should meet this writer, and 29 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: I meet him and I said where even he goes 30 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: on Dominican And I said, oh my gosh, that's so. 31 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: That's I don't need very many Dominican writers. This is amazing. 32 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: And literally two days later, Dona sits with me and goes, 33 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: I want to do this story and I loved like 34 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: it to be all Dominican, Dominican sounding, Dominican writer, Dominican voices. 35 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, I just met a Dominican writer, 36 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: and then I introduced you to Maria. And that's the thing. 37 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: That's the thing too, that's my life's mission is not 38 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: to speak for the Latino commune. I'm not. I don't 39 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: speak for anybody. I don't speak for women, I don't 40 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: speak for Latinos. I encourage people to speak up for themselves, 41 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: and the way we do it as creators is finding 42 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: those stories from our communities and giving giving it that voice. 43 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's what you've done so beautifully with 44 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: this particular series, is you've got so specific with the story. 45 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Is not not even just with being Dominican and it 46 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: being a Dominican story, it being about these three women. 47 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: The more specific you tell a story from a point 48 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: of view, the broader the reach. And that's the irony 49 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: of storytelling, because it is you can't even make up 50 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: this ship, right, you can't make up the ship that 51 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: these women went through whips, chains, electric rocks, but don't 52 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: give no, can calm down, get a lot worse. They're 53 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: taking up still are family in a way, you know 54 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: way it's like we are keeping them alive. You know 55 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: that he wasn't in vain. Like a lot of people 56 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: can look at this, you know, look at the story 57 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, look they spoke up and they're dead, 58 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, but they're not. Look at the way 59 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: that we're getting to tell this story. Look at the 60 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: opportunities that we have so that our youth gets to 61 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: grow up having that inspiration, understanding that that's what it's like, 62 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: and being proud, being really proud of what it was 63 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: then and what it is now. You know, the movement 64 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: soon became a political force to be reckoned with them 65 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: now because of her, women like us don't have to 66 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: be afraid anymore right now. And this is Dominicano. I 67 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: am very proud to introduce minutes, the daughter of two 68 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: of our heroes, Minerva. Yes, yes, you heard that right, 69 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: that is me New She's still alive and well and 70 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: working as a politician and an activist in the Dominican Republic. 71 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: Not surprising, She and a show runner writer directors Maria 72 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: cal had a conversation about the journey towards bringing this 73 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: story to life in this medium. I trust how's mydea? 74 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: He's good, thank you? Meaning so, um, let's talk a 75 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: little bit about the process. I remember I called you 76 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: and and it was my birthday and you didn't know 77 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: it was my birthday, see, and you told me come 78 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: to my office and I arrived at your office and 79 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: you gave me a book. Uh and that book is 80 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: Mariana Dede Sick. And that was a birthday gift, but 81 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: it was it was also a great gift for me 82 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: to learn more about about Meno and Manolo, and you 83 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: really wanted to point out that love story that me 84 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: Nero Minolo had. I miss you more than anything. I've 85 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: read your last letter so many times. I know it 86 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: by heart, and I think you can really you can 87 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: really see that in the book. You can really understand 88 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: these characters. It was very good for us writers, for 89 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: me and Mary cast Jans too, to really get to 90 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: know in a in a different level, not only the 91 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: the movements, what they thought their ideas, but how they think, 92 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: how they felt uh and and that intimacy that they had, 93 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: and how the struggles they had as a relationship, and 94 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: and like in a way that human side that you 95 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: can really see it in in in everything they did. 96 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: They're telling people to watch out for us doctor Manuelo Tabares, 97 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: whoso has recently married La rou the Red commun And 98 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: it is also said that there is a baby. What 99 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: the hell is this? That bastard wants to isolate us 100 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: from everyone, but he won't. I won't let it happen, Mina. 101 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: They were really human to I think that was really 102 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: important for us, and that's why I called you back 103 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: and I told you, I think we need to include 104 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: the book. I think the book is important, and I 105 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: think we need to include you. You need to be 106 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: a character in in in this in this story quite 107 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: a gift because that's a really true lost story. And 108 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: it's not a love traditionally come on love love story. 109 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: It's a love story between two and between a country 110 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: read and between the future. And it's about fighting for 111 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: a better work and being um able to give everything, 112 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: even even the UH their own lives, in order to 113 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: UH to build a work, a different work, a onee 114 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: where people do not have to to suffer what they suffered. 115 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: People that do not that are not going to be 116 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: per sicking. I am thinking of them and every new 117 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: generation after them. They need to be protected from this 118 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: terrible regime that killed their grandfather. Remember they did that 119 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: to puppy, to all of us. So you tell me, mommy, 120 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: what's best to think about myself or to think about 121 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: the future for my children and their country. I want 122 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: to talk to you guys a little bit about Maria 123 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: Caral showrunner, writer, director. He's one of the most important 124 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: Dominican filmmakers working today. He has directed over seven feature 125 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: films and his movie would Peckers was the first film 126 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: out of Santo Domingo to screen at the Sundance Film 127 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Festival in two thousand and seventeen. Meno so gracefully let 128 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: Jose and co writer Mary Castelliano fictionalize her life and 129 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: create a character who is passing this story on to 130 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: the next generation. You speak for them, Okay. If I 131 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: closed my eyes, I can't imagine the cries, the anguish, 132 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: that despair. What I need is that you are able 133 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: to capture the spirit, uh, and that you are respectful 134 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: with it. It. Yes, we we had that into account 135 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: when me and Mary were writing, and that's why we 136 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: we did a lot of meetings with you, and and 137 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: also we we used many of the testimonies. The Day's 138 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: book also very inspirational, uh. And we we really wanted 139 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: to be really faithful to the history and to what 140 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: actually happened, so we took very few creative licenses. There's 141 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: another thing that it's very uh that talks about the 142 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: character of my mother. She was in prison, and and 143 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: she was in the letters she said all the time, 144 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: like bring me, please, bring me, bring me constantly said yes, 145 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: So Clay Clay, did did you bring those cigarettes? On 146 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: the modeling clay see, because I need to do something 147 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: while I am. I'm here, you know, these days are 148 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: endless days, and and she had no one single picture 149 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: of me, So she started sculpting my face from her memory. 150 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: Mommy was spent the next few months inside herself sculpting 151 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: the memory she had of me, of my face. It's 152 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: surprising how very much alike to a picture of me 153 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: at that age is this sculpt that she did. So 154 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: what that story tells me is first how much she 155 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: loved me, how present she had me. It's just like 156 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, not as you would tend to think that. Well, 157 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: she preferred to fight, and she forgot about no, no, 158 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: no me, no, I want me thank Okay, yes that's 159 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: a key g She had me in her mind and 160 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: solely my father. Uh when when she did what she 161 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: did because it was her responsibility, it was her commitment. 162 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: She had no option but two fight for a better work. 163 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Look at what he's doing to us, Look at what 164 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: he's doing to us. I don't want me to to 165 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: grow up in fear. I want them to have a 166 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: full life. Better. Their own hardships had one good result. 167 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: It made them focus again on the revolutionary ideals, and 168 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: so they began to plan. I was honored to bring 169 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: her to life in this way. Actually, in the show, 170 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: Adela is played by my actual niece, Gabriel Stein. Just 171 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: a little fun fact for you guys. They meant so 172 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: much to me to pass along this story to the 173 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: younger generation in my family. You know what you are 174 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: Mariposa too, and so are you. Mavie. There, Hey, podcast listeners, 175 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more interviews in just a sec. 176 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: Stick around it. We got it. We got it is 177 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: about reconnecting the dots for people now, and not from 178 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: a victimized perspective, because I think that's the thing everybody. 179 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, we're all played in this big play of life, right, 180 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: and so we get to have a chance to be 181 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,239 Speaker 1: vessels for a message, a bigger message for me obviously, 182 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: and you can you know, I have my messages of love, 183 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: of uniting or like I've always been like, how can 184 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: I tell stories that make people really resonate with not 185 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: just what happened, but what can come a bit? You know, 186 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, I get really deep sometimes I get it, 187 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: but that it's important to me because I do. I 188 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: feel like you've really provided me with a an opportunity 189 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: to really retell the story in the most authentic way. 190 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: You allowed me to have freedom to really, you know, 191 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: collaborate with you on something that to me meant the world, 192 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: and it means the world to a lot of the 193 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Dominican community. And along with Mikulta and and and I 194 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Heart and Julia from School of Humans came into this 195 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: project and I cannot tell you eva like just changed everything. 196 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: We were able to just really attack it from a 197 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: place of sound like, what do Dominican people sound like? 198 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: What is our country sound like? What do our fight 199 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: sound like? What does our laughter sound like? How do 200 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: we relate to each other? And we did it all 201 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: in a very specific way to talk about our people 202 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: because you know, and I think that's a huge thing. 203 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to and partner with Joannie on this 204 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: because just like just like the media and sisters who 205 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: weren't afraid to challenge decades of oppression, uh and and 206 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: lead a revolution, you know, Danny and I aren't afraid 207 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: to you know, tackle our industry with representation. And we're like, 208 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: here we go, get ready for the revolution. Kill me 209 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: and I will lift my arms ever stronger even from 210 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: the grave. What an honor it was to work with you. 211 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: The Ray is an incredible actress. Wow, Um, I have 212 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: worked with duty before. It's very rare that you have 213 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Dominicans in Los Angeles, and she's been my powerhouse here 214 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: in l A, someone that I turned to. No one 215 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: better than Julie Ray is as our So I mean, 216 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: a room full of Dominicans is like nothing you've ever seen, 217 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's not a joke, it's a 218 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: show off. Somebody's teasing somebody else, making you laugh, and 219 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: you feel at home immediately. You know. Once somebody threw 220 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: in a a hole O go and yoka. Okay. It 221 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: was a legacy and the Spanish it was on. So 222 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: we figured out how to throw it in there, and 223 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: whenever we had to pull it out, who somebody did 224 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: an incredible joke, was like, let's do another one. But 225 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the more powerful scenes 226 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: was um when we got we had to sing the 227 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: national anthems Ye, she's being arrested, um, and it was 228 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I don't know the 229 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: whole thing. I don't know. You can't silence us our 230 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: country's anthem. Says we have a right to be three 231 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: come on me by one of us, So damn. But 232 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: it's almost a yeah it is, and it isn't re 233 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: education of US Dominicans and American Dominicans. And you know, 234 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm American born, American educated, I mean dominicanized by 235 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: my family because my first generation, I mean for me. 236 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why I really wanted to 237 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: tell this story, it's not just because, Okay, the meat 238 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: of our sisters was something that I grew up with, 239 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: but really I knew firsthand the effect that he had 240 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: on our people. And I was born in them, and 241 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: I am born in Dominican Republic, and I stayed there 242 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: till I was ten years old. And I would come 243 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: from a family full of women, like I'm one of 244 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: three girls, my mom is one of ten. My grandmother 245 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: had ten girls, two boys, and so the meat about 246 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: story was something that was very prevalent and alive in 247 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: my home. And so this is something that going to 248 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: school in Dominican Republic is the first thing that you 249 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: really start learning about UM. But I also saw there 250 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: their impact within the women in my family because Dominican Republic, 251 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: if you know, the country is um in a lot 252 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: of ways, very male dominant and still till this day, 253 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: very male dominant, and so coming from a family full 254 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: of strong women, this was something that I grew up 255 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: being inspired by my father. I remember him telling us 256 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: stories about, you know, being outside and not being able 257 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: like if thru he was making his rounds, you wouldn't 258 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: even you weren't able to even be outside and chew 259 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: gum because he found it disrespectful. So if he was 260 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: out there speaking and you were chewing gum, they would 261 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: like shoot you right then there. So imagine growing up 262 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: in a time that that was a reality. Um. He 263 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: made me have to grow into having a little more 264 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: understanding from my father, and he's much books. I'm one 265 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: of four girls, so I I I identify and I 266 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: appreciate what you're saying. And you know, very anti Trugistas. 267 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: My parents they experienced him in their youth and uh. 268 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: And then of course it's part of the lord. Every 269 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: time you brought up civil rights in the States, you know, 270 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: my mom had to, you know, give me a little 271 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: schooling of what she knew about. Oh no, but in 272 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: Santo Domingo, there was the meta our sisters, you know, no, 273 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: you don't know. It's like what happened. And and to 274 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: echo what you were saying, the misogyny. So many women 275 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: in the households so few men, and they have virtually 276 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: no power because of the patriarchy, the times, all of 277 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: that stuff. And like a middle class young women, like 278 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: the metra our sisters going ahead and exercising their right 279 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: to educate themselves, um creates a problem in a nation 280 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: that's mostly women or has mostly daughters. I know where 281 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: this is going. Yes, I still think it's not a 282 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: good idea for you to leave home to study law. 283 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for your advice, and thank you for the car. 284 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. But I'm a meta. But I'll 285 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: remember I set my mind on going to college, Poppy, 286 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: and I'm going right, all right, I'll be safe, Poppy. 287 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: Don't worry so much. You know, I have a son 288 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: and a daughter, and I think of my daughter when 289 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: i'm when I'm doing this work, and I'm thinking of 290 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: what she you know, how we would resonate with her. 291 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: But I also think of my son, and I think of, 292 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, what his future with women would be like. 293 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: Whatever it is, you know, it's just as a friend, 294 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: as a partner, and you know, instilling that like love, admiration, 295 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: respect for women in these young men is something that 296 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: our nation needs. And I think creating an army of 297 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: history around our children that that reminds them that they 298 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: exist and being the example to our children that, uh, 299 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: they can realize themselves as a result of people before us, 300 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: and being scared is not new. It's okay to be angry, 301 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: and it's okay to take action, do you know what 302 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: I mean? However, that looks for you, um um, that 303 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: they're not alone, that they're you know, what we've been 304 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: looking for. What brought us all into the business, you, Julia, 305 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: you Dania, is that we're looking for someone who looks 306 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: like us, who sounds like us, who is like us, 307 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: but you know, through a different journey and experience, representation 308 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: and representation of these universal themes comes in every shape, color, size, gender, 309 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's an important message to get across. 310 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: But we have a lot of like intellectual, really smart 311 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: educated business women who are actors in this room, you know, 312 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: so that take in terms of the the class and 313 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: the weight of these women really really uh, it's not 314 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: something you can't you have to edit down or change 315 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: because that's where we're all from, which is to your point, 316 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: what the real talent is essential and talented people who 317 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: often don't get the opportunity to shine in this way, 318 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: let alone tell their story. We'll be right back with 319 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: more interviews in Justice Sect. Stick around. Did we record that? Okay? Next? 320 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: I am very excited for you guys to hear from 321 00:22:51,800 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: these beautiful Dominican strong women. Gravio, Charlene Let. They had 322 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: a conversation with our producer and Julia Chris Gaunt know 323 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: what bout. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's even makes me my 324 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: eyes here, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's a Dominican 325 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: story led by females. You know, it's being represented and 326 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: it feels good. You know, I saw Judy, I saw 327 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: Heivy Keith. They Judy started way before us and trying 328 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: to break through. Yes, and the fact that she represents me, 329 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: that my character. It's amazing because what what it entitles. 330 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: It's like her history and you know they were met 331 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: about rags. She's nearly ready and the fact that she 332 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: did it was so so much soul because she wasn't. 333 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: She wasn't just their scenery and made a good actor. 334 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: It was personal for me. It's very important. I told 335 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: her this. She was the first Dominican actress I ever 336 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: saw on screen and in a TV show when she 337 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: was doing scrips and I would watch her every day 338 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't know she was Dominican. She just felt 339 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: like family. I felt represented through her, and so many 340 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: years after, you know, it just feels very full circle 341 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: because she inspired me to be an actress. Whether she 342 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: knew it or not, each of us individually had never 343 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: given up in the industry. We have never given up 344 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: on our country. We have never given up on the 345 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: pride of saying Dominican in Hollywood and Dominican in Miami 346 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: and Dominican in Latin America during the world. So I 347 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: think he has to do a lot with that, with 348 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: with carrying our heritage and culture towards a story and 349 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: linked to our own journey as creative people, and it's 350 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: our story told by us and US Dominican talents in Hollywood. 351 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: We have suffered so much and because for Hollywood, for 352 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: the United States, we are who speak ste Spanish or 353 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: one flag, but we have different cultures. Of course, it's amazing, 354 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: which is the beauty of the Latino. But as America. 355 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: I tell you, I felt very proud in that room 356 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: when all of us speaking Spanish and you and Virginia 357 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: were the producers in the table. They had to just 358 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: listen to what we're saying and take our our advice 359 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: because we know better about our culture. To me, and 360 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, all this is another level something 361 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: never happened when gona help its going. It is so hard, 362 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, wow, but kudos. It is very important to 363 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: know that bad as women like Dania Ramiers, Eva Longoria 364 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: and Eugenia and you that represent a bigger platform that 365 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: bad as women are telling the story as bad as women, 366 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: and Hi are bad as women, you know. Like that 367 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: to me is like okay, about time. Thank congratulations, thank 368 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: you for trusting relieving in us. Yes, so it was 369 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: you made it easy. Look at it. Where are we 370 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: in a in a room right now? Right It's called 371 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Sisters of the Underground. So they were underground paving their way. 372 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: It's exactly what we're doing now. Look at the building 373 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: next to us in Netflix offices. It's like the underground, 374 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: you know. So we were like here doing a raw, 375 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: doing a real because like yeah, really is rare nowadays. 376 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: So this is a very real, rare project, and nothing 377 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: goes the way we plan, but we plan our way, 378 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: we still make it. Yes, that's quite the thing that 379 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: best makes me about these women, these sisters, was the 380 00:26:54,760 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: bravery and the these ordinary women. I mean they were 381 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: they were obviously extraordinary, but really if you look at 382 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: their lives, they were three women, They had a husband, 383 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: they had a job, they worked in the house. My 384 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: hope is that it inspires people to see, wow, these 385 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 1: three women became an inspiration for many. I mean, they 386 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: were affectionately called Las Mariposa, the butterflies. Um. You know, 387 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: they earned this um martyr status, and they were normal 388 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: everyday people who wanted to see a difference in their country. 389 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: That's all they want. They wanted to make a difference 390 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: in their country. So I hope that people see this 391 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: and see what's happening in our country now and go, wait, 392 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: I could participate in a bigger way. Yes, But these 393 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: women did. They started the downfall of trukil Uh. You know, 394 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: over time they became the real threat to his regime, 395 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: and they garnered national international attention and they put pressure 396 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: on the government and go, if you look at if 397 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: those three women can do it, in a in a 398 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: in a place that has had true fascist dictatorship, I 399 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: mean true fascist dictatorship. I think sometimes in the United 400 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: States we sit back and we're like, we're such a 401 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: great democracy and it's fine, and it's like, no, you 402 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: have to pay attention. You have to pay attention. And 403 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know, political and social movements are fueled 404 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: by everyday people in our country, and so I hope 405 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: people look at this and pay attention to what's happening 406 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: in our country to make sure that we never become 407 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: that right, and that not only that you have the 408 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: power to make sure we never become that. I truly 409 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: do believe that change is inspired, not demanded. Bringing this 410 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: show into fruition is my attempt to inspire the kind 411 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: of change that I believe is needed in order to 412 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: form a world that I want my children to grow 413 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: up in. I am committed to shedding light on the 414 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: pieces of history that have had a positive impact on 415 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: the state of our current civilization. I want to thank 416 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: you all so much for listening. It really does mean 417 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: the world. Thank you. Oh My mom's from Dominican Republic, 418 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: who's don to you. She's my aunt and I love 419 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: her very much. I love you very much, thank you, 420 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your love, your talent, and you 421 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: are Amiraba. You are if I ever o one AK. 422 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: Sisters of the Underground is a production of School of 423 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Humans in conjunction with I Heeart Medias, Michael Tura Network 424 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: and Unbelievable Entertainment, with co executive producers Eva Longoria and 425 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: Dania Ramirez, showrunner and director j Maria Abra. The series 426 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: was written by Jose Maria Carrel and Mary Castellanos. Story 427 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: by Dania Ramirez and Jose Maria Cabral. Lead producer and 428 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: story editor Julia Chrisco Associate producer and first a d 429 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Andrew Harmon, Production manager Daisy Church, Script supervisor Sarah Montague, 430 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: Recording engineer Clay Hillenburg, Post production supervisor Jeremy Gilbertson at 431 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: Tune Welders in Atlanta. Sound design, mixing and mastering by 432 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: Harper W. Harris, Assembly editing by Liam Marie Puffenberger. Jason 433 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: Shannon composed our score, music editor Spenser Willis. Music licensing 434 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: by Serio Marte, Lolaurenz A Louts at Big Sync Music 435 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: and Natalie Brady at Texture Music. Marketing and design by 436 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: Jasmine Miheia and Claudia Marti Corena. Our Incredible cast includes 437 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: Dania Ramirez as Minotavares Miraval, our narrator, Julie Regues as 438 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Minerva Miraval, Jane Santos as Dona Chia Miraval, Celinez t 439 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: Ribio as Deve Miraval, Charlene Chaule as Maria Presa Miraval, 440 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: Acarriendo es Patria Miraval, Serio Carlo Es, Manolo Tavaris, and 441 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: the radio announcer Pemki Malera Es Trujillo, Ector anibal As, 442 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: Johnny Abs, Cabrila Stein as Adela. Additional cast includes juan 443 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Ja Alex Lynn Word, Jacqueline Calderon, Vido Mico Urrivez, Silvio Martinez, 444 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: Ryan Parija, Darius de la Cruz, Marco Parra, and Daniel Lujan. 445 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: Additional executive producers include Jossan, Maria Cabra, Mary Castellanos, Gessel Bances, 446 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: Virginia Prasca, L. C. Crowley, Brandon bar Special thanks to 447 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: Doug Boum and abou so far at I Heart Media 448 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Minoavaris Miravan, daughter of Minerva and Manolo, 449 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: who is a politician and activist in the Dominican Republic. 450 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: She also published the book of letters that we quote 451 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: throughout the series. 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