Speaker 1: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from my Heart Radio,
Speaker 1: your weekly source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice.
Speaker 1: Now along with the guys from fanball dot com, here's
Speaker 1: the host for Fantasy Football Weekly. It is time for
Speaker 1: America's longest running fantasy football show, Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Paul Charchy and from fanball dot Com. My
Speaker 1: cohorts today are Christian Peterson and Brian Johnson. Hello, guys, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: talking football. It's that we're really in the heart of
Speaker 1: draft season now right, it gets game on. You know,
Speaker 1: this is probably the drafts will be next two weekends.
Speaker 1: You know this weekend, next weekend will be the vast
Speaker 1: majority of drafts. So we're right in the thick of everything.
Speaker 1: And over the course of this show, we're gonna help
Speaker 1: you figure out which teammates are the right ones to draft.
Speaker 1: A lot of times there are two teammates at the
Speaker 1: same position that you could draft. For example, would you
Speaker 1: rather Mike Evans in the second round or Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: in the fourth round? Will help you decide which guy
Speaker 1: to draft in a shared uh in a shared situation
Speaker 1: like that. Also, you're about to execute your first draft
Speaker 1: of the year. We've executed dozens of drafts already, and
Speaker 1: there are always these guys that you look back and go, well,
Speaker 1: I never ended up with him, never ended up with him.
Speaker 1: Did twelve drafts? Haven't ended up with that guy a
Speaker 1: lot of time. It's not even that it's that you
Speaker 1: don't it's not even that you hate that guy, but
Speaker 1: you don't end up with them. Will tell you which
Speaker 1: players we've blacklisted from existence, jettison into a black hole
Speaker 1: of fantasy disinterest. Then we'll talk about the highlights from
Speaker 1: the preseason action from this week. We'll answer some tough questions.
Speaker 1: You get to play. Along with those tough questions, we'll
Speaker 1: reveal our latest round of sleepers, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: the freaky upside that comes with rushing quarterbacks and who
Speaker 1: you could potentially target in your draft if you want
Speaker 1: to take on the risk that comes with them. It's
Speaker 1: a little early for his freaky sound effects. It's not
Speaker 1: Halloween time quite yet now would have worked well for
Speaker 1: the freaky. The freaky I have any I don't have
Speaker 1: any freaky sound effects here. Yeah, I've got uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got a vulture. I've got a sad drombone. How's
Speaker 1: it going. I've got I got a happy trombone. Do
Speaker 1: you have the air horn? No? No, don't horn. I
Speaker 1: don't know where the air horn. We had an air
Speaker 1: horn at one point, you got you got Drew Peacock
Speaker 1: in there, though, don't you We know? No Drew Peacock.
Speaker 1: But man, do we miss Drew Peacock at least come
Speaker 1: back to the NFL Drew Peacock. Let's begin with this
Speaker 1: potential impending signing of Ezekiel Elliott. Maybe even depending on
Speaker 1: when you're listening to this, he has already signed. If
Speaker 1: you believe the media reports. It looks like a signing
Speaker 1: maybe immanent. So let's start here, assuming he has signed,
Speaker 1: when people go to their draft, where does he slot
Speaker 1: in as a signed player for the Cowboys? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he's just he's right back where he would
Speaker 1: have been, which is within the top three or four
Speaker 1: picks in the entire draft. More specific, where do you
Speaker 1: want him in the top four night? I think I
Speaker 1: think most people would. I would take him third. I
Speaker 1: would take se Kwan and McCaffrey ahead of him, But
Speaker 1: but I would have before all along. Okay, if nothing
Speaker 1: has changed for me about about Elliott. I was CMC
Speaker 1: in Kamara top two. That was Zeke three before all
Speaker 1: this madness. But I gotta keep him at the tail.
Speaker 1: And now the four, I take Barkley over Zeke. But
Speaker 1: and I was taking David Johnson before Zeke. I'm still
Speaker 1: on the fence a little bit. But no, I guess
Speaker 1: if he signed today or tomorrow or very soon, I
Speaker 1: would put him at number four. All right, So what
Speaker 1: about people that are in limball. Let's say he hasn't
Speaker 1: Zeke hasn't signed yet, but they're working on the same
Speaker 1: information we are right now as we record this, which
Speaker 1: it appears that they're you know, he's close to us signing.
Speaker 1: Let's just say all these reports are coming from like
Speaker 1: very biased cowboy accounts and I won't name name, but
Speaker 1: they bleed they bleed silver and blue or whatever the
Speaker 1: colors they call in Dallas. I mean, well, this is
Speaker 1: what they want to say. They're not connected to the cowboys,
Speaker 1: and they would know. I don't know. It's it's wishful
Speaker 1: thinking that we all right, So are you saying then
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't believe it? And I think it's a
Speaker 1: coin flip. Now for whatever, it's okay, So where would
Speaker 1: you take him right now based on the knowledge I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't take him at all. No, there's no scenario
Speaker 1: eight round is available. You're taking no realistic scenario. He's
Speaker 1: going late first now I'm seeing him fall too. But
Speaker 1: where give me the round where you're taking? Where you're
Speaker 1: taking Zeke? If he's on sign and we all you
Speaker 1: have to go on his media reports of optimism, which
Speaker 1: you obviously don't don't care about. Third, third round. I
Speaker 1: would go second, I think early second. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think I would. I would use my late first
Speaker 1: rounder if I don't know that he's going to be there,
Speaker 1: but by the second round you know the risk is
Speaker 1: worth it. What is it? What is this do about
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard? Pollard's look good? Has Pollard shown enough that
Speaker 1: he's worked his way into a rotation the likes of
Speaker 1: which we've never seen with Ezekiel Ellid? He's never shared
Speaker 1: meaningful carries, but he's also never had a competent backup either.
Speaker 1: Do you think Tony Pollard has looked good enough that
Speaker 1: he will eat into a significant number of carries and touches?
Speaker 1: I mean fifty fifty, but more like seventy, which he's
Speaker 1: never had to put up with in the past. Hill
Speaker 1: factor on third down when Zeke's back. Whenever Zeke comes back,
Speaker 1: he's a better receiver. Thanks great. Tony. Pollard excels receiving
Speaker 1: the football, I mean catching the football, and uh, he's
Speaker 1: shown that he can run as well. I see touches
Speaker 1: going to Pollard with Zeke and full tip. So that's
Speaker 1: my pa. I think that's fair too. I think Pollard
Speaker 1: has has shown enough this preseason to warrant being being
Speaker 1: in the lineup more so Pollard, even even if Zeke
Speaker 1: is drafted, is Pollard more than just a handcuff. So
Speaker 1: let's say Ryan draft Zeke, Christian, are you are you
Speaker 1: drafting Polo? Are you drafting Polo? At any point in time?
Speaker 1: If Zeke is signed and he's on another team and
Speaker 1: he said, he's not not even your handcuff, No, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's getting enough. I don't think he'll get
Speaker 1: enough playing time, enough touches to be considered a standalone
Speaker 1: valuable fantasy player. So the only the only way that
Speaker 1: I would take him is if I also have Zeke.
Speaker 1: On Thursday night, Cam Newton got knocked out of the
Speaker 1: game Friday. He's wearing a walking boot. The team, at
Speaker 1: least as of this recording, is not giving us any
Speaker 1: firm information about this this either foot or ankle injury. Now,
Speaker 1: he had surgery on the foot, so this is not
Speaker 1: the first time that that this foot has been an
Speaker 1: issue for him. What again, if if the team comes
Speaker 1: out and gives definitive information, then listeners probably know that already.
Speaker 1: But given that we the team may very well be
Speaker 1: coy about this and we don't know, We've got in
Speaker 1: Cam what do you do right now? Cam Newton and
Speaker 1: potentially drafting him? And I'm going to the Cam Newton desk.
Speaker 1: Christian Peterson no bigger apologist for the fantasy value of
Speaker 1: Cam Newton than you. What would you do? Yeah? This
Speaker 1: one hurts. I mean there have been preliminary reports that
Speaker 1: it's not as serious as maybe it looked last night,
Speaker 1: and that he could be back, Sorry, he could be
Speaker 1: back as soon as week one. We still don't know
Speaker 1: for sure. But in my mind, the biggest issue is
Speaker 1: that this is a foot injury. They're talking about a
Speaker 1: midfoot sprain kind of deal, and as we know, Cam
Speaker 1: Newton drives a lot of his fantasy value from his
Speaker 1: ability to run and a sprain, you know, something like that,
Speaker 1: especially if they're going to rush him back maybe for
Speaker 1: week one. I don't like the sound of that. If
Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to run as much
Speaker 1: as he usually does, or if this thing just lingers
Speaker 1: all year long, if it just never gets right, which
Speaker 1: could be the case. Yeah, so there's I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any choice but to knock him down a couple
Speaker 1: of rungs on your on your cheat sheet. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: go crazy and like put him put him in the
Speaker 1: black on your blacklist, on your vortex of irrelevancy, Yes,
Speaker 1: but but I would knock them down a spot or two.
Speaker 1: So if if this foot injury really does take the
Speaker 1: wheels off Cam Newton and all your most you know,
Speaker 1: for the most part, all you're going to get are
Speaker 1: his passing numbers. You've got quarterback twenty five on your roster.
Speaker 1: That's probably about right. You know, You're you're looking at
Speaker 1: a Sam donald Ish. You know, frankly, Donald's passing might
Speaker 1: be better. Although I will say if if if the
Speaker 1: injury is to that point, I don't think the Panthers
Speaker 1: would would try him out there if he couldn't do
Speaker 1: some of the things that make him such a good player,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like go Will Will Greer
Speaker 1: or you know, Kyle Allen. I think that they'll put
Speaker 1: the best passer they have on the field, don't you
Speaker 1: think I do. I think they would Anyway, Well, that'll
Speaker 1: hopefully still be Cam the shoulders, much better than it's
Speaker 1: been the past and direct. I'm very sad. We'll talk
Speaker 1: more about d J. Moore and critics. Samuel It's it.
Speaker 1: This is potentially tricky on them, obviously, if if if
Speaker 1: he's not gonna play with Cams not in his mobility
Speaker 1: opens up things for them, extends plays, sure, plenty of things.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's look at some of the preseason games
Speaker 1: with some notable events, beginning with the Giants and the Bengals.
Speaker 1: This is Brian Johnson's previous favorite team and now his
Speaker 1: current favorite team playing each other in a heated preseason duel,
Speaker 1: clearly a potential Super Bowl preview as well. Giants Bengals.
Speaker 1: I got my money on that Vegas. Noah started with
Speaker 1: the Giant side, Eli didn't fully implode, looked sort of sharp.
Speaker 1: He will be a Week one starter and beyond and
Speaker 1: before we mentioned Daniel Jones Eli ran a lead block
Speaker 1: on a play for Wayne Gallard, ran about thirty two
Speaker 1: yards on it. Um not with the ball, of course,
Speaker 1: that was impressive considering thirty two yards is what he
Speaker 1: averages rushing over his career every years. Never been much
Speaker 1: of a helper there, Eli, Hey speaking speaking of which, Um,
Speaker 1: who is you know for those people that want to
Speaker 1: handcuff Barkley? Is it Gallman or Park or just neither?
Speaker 1: Just just just don't do period, don't do it, all right,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a case where hopefully doesn't. Anyway, it
Speaker 1: was Barkley. Yeah, whoever steps in for Barkley is not
Speaker 1: It's a waste of fab. Don't even go there if
Speaker 1: that comes to it. If it comes to that. Um.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones O came in after Eli. He looked very
Speaker 1: good again. Uh nine for eleven forty one yards, took
Speaker 1: a big hit, got back up, dropped a dime to
Speaker 1: the one yard line. But he's played against the reserves
Speaker 1: all preseason long. People are he looks goodseason? You know
Speaker 1: a week one he well, he he started the game
Speaker 1: week one, but he was also playing against reserved, So
Speaker 1: I guess you're right. But he will usurp Eli at
Speaker 1: some point. Just a guy to keep your eye in
Speaker 1: and Dynasty and super Flex for him. That's definitely not
Speaker 1: one quarterback leagues this year. The only other giant worth
Speaker 1: mentioning was Evan Ingram, who called his loom target for
Speaker 1: nine yards. But outside of that, there was no Barkley,
Speaker 1: no Golden Tate, no Sterling Shepherds. Still he's injured. It
Speaker 1: should be ready for week one. We shall see. But
Speaker 1: um he's going off the board practically free. It's he's
Speaker 1: if you got a spot to burns. He'll be a
Speaker 1: factor when he when he's healthy. For since no Joe Mixon,
Speaker 1: no Tyler Effort, Andy Dalton did look sharp, went seven
Speaker 1: for ten for a hundred and four yards through a
Speaker 1: beautiful yard touchdown to my boy the uzy C g
Speaker 1: C j use Olma, who also had another catch of
Speaker 1: twenty five plus yards, which was impressive. So if Effort
Speaker 1: gets hurt, muse Alma is going to be a factor
Speaker 1: again in the tight end wasteland when I get hurt
Speaker 1: when and uh, of course no A J. Green Tyler
Speaker 1: Boyd only played a couple of series. One guy to
Speaker 1: keep your eye on his Damien Willis, wide receiver who
Speaker 1: had three catches for fifty five yards in the touchdown.
Speaker 1: Because John Ross is not good, who currently is slated
Speaker 1: as the other starting wide receiver. This Damien Willis could
Speaker 1: become a factor, and so could rookie running back Rodney
Speaker 1: Anderson from U c l A, who was the first
Speaker 1: round that's the first blew out his knee in the
Speaker 1: first game for U c l A. Dropped to late
Speaker 1: third day in the draft, but he looked really good.
Speaker 1: And people always say Geo Bernard would be the backup
Speaker 1: if something happened to mixing, but Bernardo's kindding that Darryl
Speaker 1: Henderson threw down role. To me, Rodney Anderson is the handcuff.
Speaker 1: He could be your first two down guy if something
Speaker 1: did happen to mix it up. So something. If you're
Speaker 1: gett handcuff mixing, it's not Geo, it is Anderson. That's
Speaker 1: it for this game. Let's go to Baltimore in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: That's Brian, Sorry I'm wrong, Washington and sorry, Washington in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: thank you. Really not a lot to talk about in
Speaker 1: this game. On the Washington side, the debut debut of
Speaker 1: Darius Guys so that's exciting. First time on the on
Speaker 1: the field and game action since he blew out his
Speaker 1: A c L last preseason, and he was very involved.
Speaker 1: He got four touches on the very first drive, eleven
Speaker 1: touches overall, and did okay with it four yards, So
Speaker 1: really just nice to see him back on the field.
Speaker 1: He looked like an explosive player, just like we thought
Speaker 1: we were getting last year before the injury. Of course,
Speaker 1: his fantasy situation is still pretty clouded with Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: there and Chris Thompson there. But again, good to see
Speaker 1: guys back on the field. Not so good news for
Speaker 1: Jordan Reid. Removed from the game in the concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: This is I believe, his seventh concussion of his career,
Speaker 1: and that's on top of all sorts of other injuries.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody, you know, beat writers, people were liking
Speaker 1: what they saw of Jordan Reid in the preseason and
Speaker 1: in training camp and he was looking like maybe one
Speaker 1: of their only legitimate receivers and now probably not so much.
Speaker 1: So bad news for Jordan Reid. Case Keenum was bad,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins was maybe even worse. This is this is bad.
Speaker 1: They have they have no wide receivers. Their top receivers
Speaker 1: didn't even play in this one. Josh Dockson might be
Speaker 1: traded or cut. It's a their passing game as a
Speaker 1: total disaster. On the Atlanta side, not really a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about here. Matt Ryan did start and played
Speaker 1: a little bit, but Julio Jones didn't play. Davonta Freeman
Speaker 1: just played one series. He did give way to Edo Smith,
Speaker 1: who has now established himself as the backup that you want. There.
Speaker 1: I played seventeen snaps, had five carries and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: That is all that is worth talking about in this game. Okay,
Speaker 1: Carolina took on New England. We already talked about the
Speaker 1: only really sailing part of Carolina the Cam Newton injury here. Uh.
Speaker 1: If he can't go, Kyle Allen expected replacement. Uh, and
Speaker 1: let's hope it doesn't come to that in Week one
Speaker 1: or beyond. On the New England side, there were a
Speaker 1: variety of things to talk about. Sony Michelle looking fast
Speaker 1: and elusive, much more so than last year. Remember last
Speaker 1: year came off of injury, was injured throughout that season,
Speaker 1: and looked like he didn't look anything like the guy
Speaker 1: we saw Georgia, he looked plotting and slow. Not so
Speaker 1: much here. I thought he looked really good. The box
Speaker 1: score won't show some of his best plays that came
Speaker 1: back in penalty as well, So don't just look at
Speaker 1: the box score, and Sony Michelle, trust me that he
Speaker 1: looked good. It's still a very convoluted in deep backfield,
Speaker 1: but he looks like the best player in it. Ben
Speaker 1: Watson got some first team reps and he's got a
Speaker 1: little sneaker, sneaky tight end to him. Philip Dorsett got
Speaker 1: a long look, including starting the game, but with Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon's return coming, I don't think he's going to hold
Speaker 1: that job as a starter. And I'll note that Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman still not playing. Don't forget Ben Watson suspended though
Speaker 1: for his four games. Great point, yeah, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: But after that's certainly gonna be viable this season, Darling.
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers had another big game Patriots as well, although
Speaker 1: he did he got some looks from Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: was oh for three on the targets from Brady, and
Speaker 1: Brady was seen sort of be rating him on the
Speaker 1: sidelines a little bit. So uh, Myers has been a
Speaker 1: guy maybe worth looking at in Dynasty format, but probably
Speaker 1: too far down the depth chart for others. The much
Speaker 1: anticipated Baltimore Philadelphia game, now let's get to that one.
Speaker 1: This one will be much quicker. Wentz did not play
Speaker 1: for Philly, has an all preseason, but he should be
Speaker 1: ready to go a week one, he will be ready
Speaker 1: to go, or so they say. Zacker has caught a
Speaker 1: past for thirteen yards, but this game was all about
Speaker 1: j j Arthega Whiteside baby Jaws Risen call him Jaws here.
Speaker 1: It's way easier. Eight catches a hundred and four yards,
Speaker 1: including a nice grab in the corner of the end zone.
Speaker 1: Looks a little Andre Johnson ish easily a fair Compton,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams in l A. He's uh, he looks fantastic.
Speaker 1: He looks really Dynasty Sky's the limit redraft. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of targets to be shared
Speaker 1: in Philip. So that's the thing we're actually we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about it later in the show. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's one of the things I like about Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: is you don't have to guess which which is now
Speaker 1: suddenly plethora of quality target options is going to be
Speaker 1: the guy in any given week. That's it for Philly Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Not a lot here. Lamar Jackson did not play. Kind
Speaker 1: of a bummer. Not a lot of players didn't play
Speaker 1: in these week preseason Week three used to be the
Speaker 1: bonanza of all the starters. It's not. It's not not anymore.
Speaker 1: Mark Ingham didn't play either. In rising rookie Justin Hill
Speaker 1: did not wow in this one. Only sixteen combo yards
Speaker 1: on nine touches. The only thing really worth mentioning is
Speaker 1: um Miles Boykin did make his first appearance at the preseason.
Speaker 1: He was a first round pick, second round, second second
Speaker 1: round pick. Uh. He did what he was drafted to do.
Speaker 1: Had one catch for forty four yards on two targets.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna be a deep threat for l Jacks
Speaker 1: this year. The third round pick, Miles Boykin. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to Green Bay and Oakland. What a disaster.
Speaker 1: This game was just a total disaster. On they're playing
Speaker 1: an eight yard feet so they played. They played in Canada,
Speaker 1: and in Canada on Canadian Football League fields, the uprights
Speaker 1: are in the middle of the end zones, so they
Speaker 1: tried to remove those, but then the field was just
Speaker 1: a mess in the end zone, so they had to
Speaker 1: shorten it and the ten yard line became the end zone.
Speaker 1: And when that happened, green Bay said, well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: bench our thirty three best players. What a disaster, and
Speaker 1: a couple of the players that they did decide to play,
Speaker 1: including Equanimius st. Brown, you know, potentially fantasy. When I
Speaker 1: saw that injury, I'm like, the season over career enders
Speaker 1: saw off his foot right now, it looks bad. The
Speaker 1: interesting part was when you first looked at the hit,
Speaker 1: what you saw was the vicious head to head, you know,
Speaker 1: helmet to helmet action. And then it turns out he
Speaker 1: also blew up his ankle, blew up his leg in
Speaker 1: some way, carted off the field out. They're saying it's
Speaker 1: only a severe high ankle sprain. I know, I was like,
Speaker 1: that's it's over. Uh fortunately, not not quite as bad
Speaker 1: as that anything else from no. I mean, Oakland didn't
Speaker 1: even bring the twenty four of their players to the game,
Speaker 1: and then because of the field they be so literally
Speaker 1: nothing that's talking about. Let's let's move on to our
Speaker 1: last preseason game that we're going to talk about, Jacksonville
Speaker 1: taking out Miami. There are actually a number of things.
Speaker 1: This sounds like an absolute dog game, but there was
Speaker 1: There was actually some good things to come out of it.
Speaker 1: From a fantasy standpoint. For Jacksonville, Leonard for Nett got
Speaker 1: some work. Look pretty good. Heavily involved in the passing game,
Speaker 1: which has been a recurring theme of the preseason. In
Speaker 1: the training camp for him. D D. Westbrook looks great
Speaker 1: and they targeted him constantly. Scored a touchdown. He remains
Speaker 1: highly underdrafted and that's um. I think he's somebody that's
Speaker 1: that needs to move up cheat sheets. He's going to
Speaker 1: be a target high here Miami. The offensive line was
Speaker 1: one of the big stories here. It's brutal. Poor ste
Speaker 1: Beard was on the run. Cons and Lee look shaky,
Speaker 1: got pressured, got hit. Uh, but it wasn't Stu Bird's fault.
Speaker 1: Of course. No, of course that he looks you give him.
Speaker 1: He's a leasive machine. Um. The offensive line is bad.
Speaker 1: They made rookie Josh Allen for for Jacksonville look like
Speaker 1: a potential defensive Rookie of the Year candidate. And by
Speaker 1: the way, he might be a potential defense over the
Speaker 1: Year candidate Rookie of the year. Let's go to it
Speaker 1: while we're down. The passing game still here a little
Speaker 1: bit electrifying. Rookie Preston Williams ran with the first team
Speaker 1: in the first series. I think they might just be
Speaker 1: ready to see you know, they know where they're rebuilding.
Speaker 1: Why not give Preston Williams a bunch of reps. He is,
Speaker 1: in my mind, the only receiver I'm interested in drafting
Speaker 1: out of that whole group. I'm done with the Kenny
Speaker 1: Stills of the world and DeVante Parker's the world. I
Speaker 1: think Preston Williams is the guy. And find out if
Speaker 1: you got lightning in a bottle. Albert Wilson is intriguing,
Speaker 1: though in PPR you can have him. Caitlin Balage had
Speaker 1: nowhere to run offensive line again, terrible, no ability, and
Speaker 1: he's not good, no ability to make his own yards.
Speaker 1: So you give him no. You can't give him a
Speaker 1: giant hole to run through. He gives you nothing. Draft
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake instead. Drake has dropped two full rounds of
Speaker 1: a DP over the last three weeks as he's been
Speaker 1: nursing a foot injury, and Calin Bellage is beginning all
Speaker 1: this work. I'm telling you blage stinks to add real
Speaker 1: quick right quill Armstead, I hope I pronounce the first.
Speaker 1: He looked good against the Miami starting defense. He's the
Speaker 1: true handcuff behind it. I think it is too and
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Speaker 1: Let's look at teams with two viable fantasy starters at
Speaker 1: the same position. Which one is the right one, particularly
Speaker 1: when you factor in their raft position. You're listening to
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Weekly Fantasy Football Weekly Returns. I am Paul
Speaker 1: Archie and my co hosts are Brian Johnson Christian Peterson. Guys,
Speaker 1: let's look at the teammates who are competing for a
Speaker 1: spot on your roster and kind of against each other.
Speaker 1: These are teammates who play the same position. They're both
Speaker 1: draftable guys, But which one do you take? Especially when
Speaker 1: you factor in average draft position. I want to begin here,
Speaker 1: Christian Philip Lindsay, who's going in round five, or Royce Freeman,
Speaker 1: who's going in around eight. What do you think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Lindsay last year was the number thirteen fantasy running
Speaker 1: back depending on your scoring system, but in a PPR
Speaker 1: system he was. He was about twelve in fantasy points
Speaker 1: last year. And Freeman was was there and Freeman was
Speaker 1: taking some of the goal line looks last year, and
Speaker 1: all throughout training camp people were saying Freeman was the guy.
Speaker 1: And then it turned out Philip Lindsay was just a
Speaker 1: dramatically better player during the year. And now this offseason
Speaker 1: they had changed the coaching staff a little bit, and
Speaker 1: the new coaching staff came in and they said they
Speaker 1: want to get Royce Freeman more involved. They went out
Speaker 1: and they picked up Theo Riddick in the preseason, maybe
Speaker 1: to take some pass catching away from Philip Lindsay. But
Speaker 1: now Riddick is injured. He fractured his shoulder in his
Speaker 1: first game, so he's out sort of indefinitely right now.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't see what's changed this year versus
Speaker 1: last year. And Lindsay right now is the running back
Speaker 1: off the board. So to me, all of these factors
Speaker 1: about Freeman maybe already being uh taking taking some of
Speaker 1: the looks, it's already factored into his ADP. And I
Speaker 1: think the upside is still there for him to finish
Speaker 1: within the top fifteen. So I'm not buying Freeman just
Speaker 1: like just like I had last year. And I think
Speaker 1: Lindsay is the guy, so I would I would rather
Speaker 1: have him in round five than Freeman even three rounds earlier. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Royce Freeman had this in the second preseason game.
Speaker 1: He had this untouched fifty yard run in which he
Speaker 1: was caught from behind easily. And I'm looking at that going,
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay's gone gone. You give Philip Lindsay that whole touchdown,
Speaker 1: that's like an eight yard touchdown. I just I don't
Speaker 1: think it was really good. They're fantasy experts who absolutely
Speaker 1: love Freeman, yeah, and believe that Royce Freeman is gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, catch and surpass Lindsay, And I just I
Speaker 1: never see it with my own two eyes. They can't
Speaker 1: get past the draft. They can't get That's exactly Rice.
Speaker 1: It's the right, it's the it's the Penny situation all
Speaker 1: over again. Just like Seattle, people can't get past where
Speaker 1: where Penny was drafted as a first rounder, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that Chris Carson is so much better, and they're
Speaker 1: convincing everybody that Philip Lindsay is a fifth rounder when
Speaker 1: in fact he's should be a probably a third rounder. Lindsay,
Speaker 1: that's right. We're already getting the discount on Lindsay. Brian
Speaker 1: Julio Jones late first round or Calvin Ridley in the
Speaker 1: fifth round. Which team made you have taken? I want both,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but if you got to
Speaker 1: pick one, let's break it down, starting with Julio. His
Speaker 1: seven thousand receiving yards the most by any player in
Speaker 1: any five year span in his in history of the NFL. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Injuries used to be a knock for Julio if you
Speaker 1: recall in the pastor but he's missed three starts during
Speaker 1: that same five year span. The last started he missed
Speaker 1: was in twenty sixteen, so he's been fully healthy the
Speaker 1: last two years. Red zone targets used to be an
Speaker 1: issue for Julio Jones. He had just three in the
Speaker 1: first eight games last year, and they all came in
Speaker 1: the opener. Yeah. After that though, Atlanta got their their
Speaker 1: s together. I saw fourteen red zone targets over the
Speaker 1: final nine games. Only Travis Kelsey saw more. He had fifteen,
Speaker 1: so and we all saw it happened. Touchdowns came for
Speaker 1: Julio wide receiver one Sarkisian anyway, right, and Dirk Cutter
Speaker 1: by the way, coming back. Very familiar with Julio and
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, which is an offensive when it comes to fantasy. Anyway,
Speaker 1: over to Calvin Ridley, a lot to love to. Here's
Speaker 1: the list of rookies with ten plus receiving touchdowns over
Speaker 1: the past twenty five years. Randy Moss, Odell Beckham, Mike Evans, Gronk,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, the Tampa Bay one from the mid Austin,
Speaker 1: and Calvin Ridley. That's that's good company, right, that's good company.
Speaker 1: Aside from Mike Williams, I'm sorry he flamed out. I
Speaker 1: loved him and Madden too. By anyway, Calvin Ridley, half
Speaker 1: of those ten touchdowns came into two game span though
Speaker 1: from weeks three to four. Yeah, and starting in Week five,
Speaker 1: he only saw red zone targets in two games for
Speaker 1: the remainder of the season, Julio, will you take them?
Speaker 1: Why can't they throw to both of them? Though? That's
Speaker 1: what I wann't know. But anyway, three of those targets
Speaker 1: went for to total touchdowns. Long story short, Ridley is
Speaker 1: gonna make strides and be a bona fide wide receiver two.
Speaker 1: But Julio is going around wide receiver five six. He
Speaker 1: could be wide receiver one. I gotta I gotta pull
Speaker 1: the triggered on Julio over Ridley. But I love them
Speaker 1: both understandable, and I think there is a great case
Speaker 1: this is This could be the rare situation where you
Speaker 1: could take two wide receivers from the same team and
Speaker 1: start them and then draft Matt Ryan and go all in.
Speaker 1: I said that training camp last week. It's one of
Speaker 1: the few teams that would do this with because you
Speaker 1: can get both. You get the quarterback after both wide receivers,
Speaker 1: and it's a good sign. That is a good sign.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Rams running back situation. Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: still going in the second round of fantasy drafts, or
Speaker 1: rookie Darryl Henderson who's going in the seventh round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think people know what the
Speaker 1: situation is here, right. We thought at the end of
Speaker 1: last year when Gurley sort of mysteriously towards the end
Speaker 1: of the year started getting sat down and then C. J.
Speaker 1: Anderson stepped in and went berserk, and the Rams didn't
Speaker 1: really admit that anything was wrong, but what we saw
Speaker 1: on the field made it obvious that there was especially
Speaker 1: with again with Anderson going bonkers and and Gurly doing
Speaker 1: nothing for a team that had that had Super Bowl aspirations, clearly,
Speaker 1: and it's continued into the off season. He missed the
Speaker 1: offseason workouts, he isn't practice sing every day in training camp,
Speaker 1: He's not going to play in the preseason, so this
Speaker 1: is kind of interesting. I went back and looked at
Speaker 1: his ADP. Before mid June, he was at about eleventh overall,
Speaker 1: so people had kind of priced in some of this uncertainty,
Speaker 1: but he was still being a first rounder. Then on
Speaker 1: June eight, they came out and finally admitted that he
Speaker 1: has this arthritic condition and his arthritic and since then,
Speaker 1: so as ADP now drops to eighth overall, so really
Speaker 1: only only seven spots. But he's now to the point
Speaker 1: where you're getting him clearly in the second round into
Speaker 1: the middle of the second round. But I just can't
Speaker 1: get over this uncertainty. I just think there's no way
Speaker 1: that you can afford to completely whip on your second
Speaker 1: round draft pick. And during the off season the Rams
Speaker 1: actions speak a lot louder than their words. They matched
Speaker 1: the three point to five million dollar offer sheet to
Speaker 1: back up Malcolm Brown, and then they went out and
Speaker 1: got Henderson, who, by all accounts everybody loves and is
Speaker 1: an explosive player. I would you know, there's risk in
Speaker 1: Henderson as well, but I'd rather with on my seventh
Speaker 1: rounder than on my second rounder. So I'm taking Henderson
Speaker 1: in Round seven. Couldn't agree more with everything you said.
Speaker 1: I think about this, Listeners, It's a Wednesday injury report
Speaker 1: drops Todd Gurley knee every week, every damn week. It's
Speaker 1: gonna read just like that, and you're gonna have no
Speaker 1: way of knowing what's coming. Is it gonna be two touches,
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be twelve touches, Is it gonna be
Speaker 1: twenty two touches? God only knows. You're not going to
Speaker 1: all year long. You're gonna be doing that chronically arthritic
Speaker 1: knee I don't like to chronically do things I enjoy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to chronically have sex. You know, chronic
Speaker 1: arthritic k me forget it. I'm totally out on that.
Speaker 1: No interest in investing in a chronically arthritic knee. Last
Speaker 1: set of teammates that we want to break apart before
Speaker 1: we take our our next, our, next pause. Mike Evans
Speaker 1: going in the second round or Chris Godwin going in
Speaker 1: the fourth. Brian, this is kind of another King Solomon
Speaker 1: situation in here. I gotta love both of these guys,
Speaker 1: especially with DeShawn Jackson and um Adam Humphries leaving that
Speaker 1: VAK its thirty eight percent of Tampa based target shares
Speaker 1: and the only wide receiver they bring is Brashad perrim
Speaker 1: and Bright. He does not count. He does not count
Speaker 1: as a football player. So let's start with Evans. Actually
Speaker 1: is a quad injury right now, probably gonna miss the
Speaker 1: rest of preseason, sort of questionable for Week one. That's
Speaker 1: not good, but let's assume he's good to go. He
Speaker 1: should be. We know what we get with Evans. He's
Speaker 1: a bona fide wide receiver one has overall wide receiver
Speaker 1: one potential since Evans has more yards and Beckham Jr.
Speaker 1: More touchdowns, and Davante Adams and more catches and t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton. He's just he's in the top tier of
Speaker 1: wide receivers or the one beat here at least, but
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin could get there coming at a couple rounds
Speaker 1: later in drafts. Only saw ninety five targets last year.
Speaker 1: That's how many targets Willie Sneed saw. Very much easy,
Speaker 1: still pretty good, It's not bad, but there's twenty five
Speaker 1: to thirty more targets on the horizon for god When,
Speaker 1: who finished with eighty two yards and seven touchdowns last year.
Speaker 1: He did see the fourth most targets from inside the
Speaker 1: ten yard line last year with the Levin for comparisons sake,
Speaker 1: Evans only saw six and uh Bruce Arians indicated Godwin
Speaker 1: can be a hundred catch guy running primarily out of
Speaker 1: the slot, by the way, is what he'll do. And
Speaker 1: guys like Hines Ward, Reggie Wayne, uh Larry Fitzgerald obviously
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Yeah, these are a hundred catch guys under
Speaker 1: Arians offense. So I'm going god When with the value
Speaker 1: over Evans, even though I love them both. Again, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's um Godwin's got freaky upside, freaky upside. You know
Speaker 1: Evans does too, but you're you're paying that. You know
Speaker 1: you're paying a two round differential. I think that I
Speaker 1: think that can make some sense. Godwin easily one of
Speaker 1: the most hyped players of this summer. We've had so
Speaker 1: much fun with this debate between players. Let's keep it rolling.
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Speaker 1: Let's return to our discussion about draftable teammates. These are
Speaker 1: two guys who played the same position on the same team,
Speaker 1: but based on their average draft position, who would you
Speaker 1: rather choose Christian. We begin with you and Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: verse and going in by the way, we should mention
Speaker 1: going in roughly the early third round, late second round,
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler in the sixth round, or Justin Jackson buried
Speaker 1: way down in like round eleven. Which guy should we
Speaker 1: focus on? Yeah, Gordon's ADP is going the wrong way here.
Speaker 1: He's the middle of round three, maybe even getting worse
Speaker 1: here as there is unlike the Ezekiel Elliott situation, where
Speaker 1: there's a ray of hope, there appears no end in
Speaker 1: sight for Melvin Gordon. The Chargers have dug in on
Speaker 1: this one in part because they do have such a
Speaker 1: capable backup in Ekeler, who has averaged over five point
Speaker 1: two yards per carry in his first two NFL seasons,
Speaker 1: and last year, even with Gordon handling the vast majority
Speaker 1: of the load, Ekeler had nine and sixty combined rushing
Speaker 1: and receiving yards and six touchdowns and a five yard
Speaker 1: per carry average. Charger five. Chargers seem to have the
Speaker 1: leverage here, but you know so, Ekeler in round six
Speaker 1: seems like a good value. But Gordon still could return.
Speaker 1: He has to come back by halfway through the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: week ten, in order to crew another year towards free agency,
Speaker 1: which he absolutely would want to do. So Gordon's coming
Speaker 1: back at some point. So are you investing around six
Speaker 1: pick in Eckler or both a round three and around
Speaker 1: six just to lock up that backfield? That seems like
Speaker 1: a lot so scenario. I'm actually going with Justin Jackson here.
Speaker 1: I'm going with the dart throw. He was actually pretty
Speaker 1: good late last year. He had over three combined rushing
Speaker 1: and receiving yards and two touchdowns in a five game
Speaker 1: stretch to close out the year last year. And Ekeler
Speaker 1: actually had a couple of games late last year where
Speaker 1: he was the starter and supposedly the bell cow. He
Speaker 1: did not perform very well in those two games. So
Speaker 1: if and when Gordon misses a few games earlier in
Speaker 1: the year, Justin Jackson is going to be involved. So
Speaker 1: I'm more intrigued by him as a as a lotto
Speaker 1: ticket in the round in round eleven than either of
Speaker 1: these other guys in round three or round so. Right,
Speaker 1: So you can just flush that pick and it doesn't
Speaker 1: doesn't materially hurt your team. If you got to just
Speaker 1: cut him out right. What resonates with me is the
Speaker 1: first preseason game Eckler fumbled from the two yard line
Speaker 1: and then later Jackson had a violent touchdown. I think
Speaker 1: the goal line duty. You know, if if Gordon is
Speaker 1: not their goal line duty is going to Justin Jackson.
Speaker 1: But I'll mention being a goal line duty. Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: has the second most touchdowns from inside the five since
Speaker 1: he entered the league. So that's amazing because he didn't
Speaker 1: score a touchdowns rookie year. Whenever that he got blank
Speaker 1: is crazy. Let's go to uh, let's go to the
Speaker 1: situation in Carolina between DJ Moore currently going in the
Speaker 1: fifth round and Curtis Samuel was a seventh round average
Speaker 1: draft position. Which teammate do you like better? Another win
Speaker 1: win situation really outside of this Cam Newton news, but
Speaker 1: we won't we won't touch on that. Let's just pretend
Speaker 1: Cam's gonna be okay or let's hope. So starting with
Speaker 1: DJ Moore as a rookie last year, he led all
Speaker 1: players with at least fifty catches and yards after the
Speaker 1: catch on a per reception basis, and became just one
Speaker 1: of seventeen receivers to post six receiving yards at twenty
Speaker 1: one years old, he joined a list that includes Randy Moss,
Speaker 1: Amari Coope, Mike Evans, Keenan, Allen Juju, DeAndre Hopkins, and
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon to be nice company to and UH now
Speaker 1: over to Samuel's side and his second pro season last year.
Speaker 1: He didn't become a regular starter until Week eight and
Speaker 1: he missed the last games due to injury, but he
Speaker 1: looked really good when given the opportunity UH, including rushing
Speaker 1: the ball. He had two rushing touchdowns in addition to
Speaker 1: what he did catching the ball. UH. He's no gimmick player,
Speaker 1: though he has the making of number one as well,
Speaker 1: and to see that you just look at his red
Speaker 1: zone usage. In his limited UH game action, he had
Speaker 1: more touchdowns in the red zone than George Kittle, Jarvis Langy,
Speaker 1: Corey Davis, Allen Robinson, and Jimmy Graham. Three of his
Speaker 1: four red zone receptions went for touchdowns, which is very efficient.
Speaker 1: And while four red zone receptions doesn't seem like a lot,
Speaker 1: if you extracts it's not a lot. It's not. But
Speaker 1: only fifteen wide receivers at double digit red zone receptions
Speaker 1: last year, and most of them are under fifteen on
Speaker 1: that list, So I'm sorry Samuel very much in that
Speaker 1: company over a full season's work. This is a tough one.
Speaker 1: This is really tough one for me because I know,
Speaker 1: I know you love d J. Moore. I do, and
Speaker 1: I love Curtis Samuel, and really they're almost the same player.
Speaker 1: And in that case, I just got to take the
Speaker 1: cheaper one here and go Curtis Samuel. But man, this
Speaker 1: is an instance. If I knew Cam was fully healthy,
Speaker 1: I'd be comfortable owning both of these guys and Cam
Speaker 1: on one team. I think Samuel is stronger, and I
Speaker 1: think he's more elusive. I think he's I think he's
Speaker 1: the I think he's more dangerous. If you asked me
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna score one of these who's gonna score from
Speaker 1: you know, sixty yards and breaking two tackles to get there?
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's Curtis sam Don't don't
Speaker 1: slouch on more after the catch, though, he's he's tough
Speaker 1: to bring down. We'll find out, and I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I think you got I think you identified the right guy.
Speaker 1: Al right. Next, let's go back to Christian Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: going in the late first round or Jarvis Landry going
Speaker 1: in the sixth round for Cleveland. Which receiver do you
Speaker 1: prefer at his average draft position? Yeah, so Beckham, like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, he has a late first round or the
Speaker 1: fourth wide receiver off the board right now, behind DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Michael Thomas. We know his upside is as
Speaker 1: the number one overall fantasy wide receiver. We've seen what
Speaker 1: he can do. Charge I believe you have him listed
Speaker 1: as you're had move down. I'm moving down to five
Speaker 1: just because he's already hurt, and you know, just the
Speaker 1: freaky upside for Odell beck And he could easily be
Speaker 1: the top scoring He's never had a quarterback as good
Speaker 1: as Baker Mayfield's going to be this year ever in
Speaker 1: his whole career. Yeah, there's no the upside is unquestioned.
Speaker 1: But I mean you're buying him at his upside in
Speaker 1: the first round. You can't buy him any any earlier
Speaker 1: than you are. Right Well, the only I'm buying is
Speaker 1: I'm getting late first round instead of mid instead of
Speaker 1: first wide receiver off the board at at five or six.
Speaker 1: So contrast that, however, to Landry, who has had the
Speaker 1: following career Fantasy finishes in PPR formats wide receiver nineteen
Speaker 1: last year, that was his worst year. Wide receiver, four,
Speaker 1: wide receiver thirteen, Wide receiver eleven. He's never had fewer
Speaker 1: than a hundred and twelve targets in a season. He's
Speaker 1: always been playing in significantly worse offenses than what he's
Speaker 1: playing in now. And despite all of that, despite all
Speaker 1: those elite level finishes from Landry, right now, he's the
Speaker 1: wide receiver off the board. I don't understand it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is fantastic. They have all of these weapons
Speaker 1: around them. Their new offensive coordinator, Todd Mounkan got seventies,
Speaker 1: six catches and five touchdowns out of Adam Humphries. Landry
Speaker 1: plays out of the slot and he's significantly better than
Speaker 1: Adam Humphries. So, as you can probably tell, I would
Speaker 1: prefer to have Javis Landry way down in the sixth
Speaker 1: round then Beckham in round one. I was all I was.
Speaker 1: I was totally in on Beckham before you gave that
Speaker 1: Ratchean now or Jarvis Landry, and now I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: you flipped my you flipped my opinion on all right,
Speaker 1: you changed my mind too, because the road is Landry
Speaker 1: burned people last year and I was one of them.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Beckham, You're just like, it's not gonna get
Speaker 1: any better. But it might. It might get better. It
Speaker 1: might get better because Odell Beckham's away from him and
Speaker 1: he's you know, there's a lot of reasons where I
Speaker 1: could get better for Jarvis Landry this year. Back to Brian,
Speaker 1: let's go to Let's go to San Francisco and one
Speaker 1: of the murky ist wide receiver situations. Do you like
Speaker 1: Dante Pettis in the eighth round or Deebo Samuel rookie
Speaker 1: receiver in the fourteen Alright, let's start with Dante at
Speaker 1: a quote unquote peak Pettis last year. You know, he's
Speaker 1: six game stretch towards the end of the year where
Speaker 1: he totally went off. He never saw more than se
Speaker 1: seven targets or had more, and he just had five
Speaker 1: catches twice during that span. So there wasn't a ton
Speaker 1: of volume for Pettis there. He did have success in
Speaker 1: the red zone on paper, but he didn't see just
Speaker 1: one target from inside the ten yard line. He's not
Speaker 1: a big end zone end zone threat. That's really George
Speaker 1: Kittle's territory territory. But uh, I don't see a bumping
Speaker 1: targets coming for Pettis when you consider Kittle. Of course,
Speaker 1: they want Trent Taylor to factor out of the slot.
Speaker 1: He should be ready by week one. Mark He's Goodwin
Speaker 1: is back. Jalen heard this rookie is turning in. And
Speaker 1: then there's Deebo Samuel who they drafted in the second round,
Speaker 1: who's looked great this preseason. And really, Deebo is a
Speaker 1: very similar player to Um Pettison. He's he's about an
Speaker 1: inch in height. They both round four equally as fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Deebo's got like twenty pounds of muscle on Pettis,
Speaker 1: and I think that makes him more of a factor
Speaker 1: after the catch, more of a factor in the red zone.
Speaker 1: He can muscle defenders much more easily than Pettis, who
Speaker 1: doesn't have the height to separate as well. So I'm
Speaker 1: taking Deebo at a discount. I know you're gonna hate it,
Speaker 1: charge because you're a big Pettis guy like Pettis, but
Speaker 1: I gotta go value here and I'm gonna go Deebo.
Speaker 1: You know there. Uh, Pettis has managed to get his
Speaker 1: head coach Kyle Shanahan to call him out publicly about
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a step up and stuff, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. I think that's, you know, I just think
Speaker 1: that's a motivational talk. I think that's him trying to
Speaker 1: light a fire under a kid that maybe got a
Speaker 1: little too full of himself with the success he had
Speaker 1: from last year. He listens to the show Pettis does,
Speaker 1: and he heard me talking about how great he is
Speaker 1: uh in previous versions of Fantasy Football Weekly. I think
Speaker 1: that went to his head a little bit. Um. All
Speaker 1: that said, Deebo Samuel's practically free in the fourteenth round,
Speaker 1: and I feel as good about him getting playing time
Speaker 1: as I do anybody in this offense. So as much
Speaker 1: as I as much as optimistic as I am about
Speaker 1: Dante Pettis, I'm kind of with you on Deebo Samuel's
Speaker 1: the right pick here, factoring in the average draft position.
Speaker 1: Let's go to another thorny one and one that's it's
Speaker 1: it's shifting sands constantly Kansas City's backfield. Damian Williams, you
Speaker 1: gotta pay a end of second round price for or
Speaker 1: Darwin Thompson in round twelve, yeah, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a point before training camp opened when Damian
Speaker 1: Williams was approaching like first round. Yes he was. That's
Speaker 1: how excited people were about this guy after the last year.
Speaker 1: What we saw at the end of last year. You
Speaker 1: can't blame him. Eight touchdowns games in the final five
Speaker 1: games of last year. It was running back four after
Speaker 1: Cream Hunt left the team. Four. Clearly, that's very compelling.
Speaker 1: But he also in his previous four seasons average three
Speaker 1: and a half yards per carry, never received more than
Speaker 1: forty six carries or twenty two receptions in a season.
Speaker 1: He's twenties seven years old. He's a journeyman. Nobody wanted him, like,
Speaker 1: there's there's no precedent for this, for a guy coming
Speaker 1: in and spending the first four years on the bench
Speaker 1: and then turning into a fantasy superstar. But anyways, preseason starts,
Speaker 1: training camp starts all of a sudden. The sixth row
Speaker 1: on rookie Darwin Thompson looks incredible, really explosive. He played
Speaker 1: at a small college, but he has a lot of
Speaker 1: very good physical traits. He's fast, he's strong, he's elusive,
Speaker 1: and he's shown it in the preseason. So I'm not
Speaker 1: a believer in Damian Williams. I think there's too much risk,
Speaker 1: certainly in the second round and even in the third round.
Speaker 1: I'd rather take the dark throw on Darwin Thompson in
Speaker 1: the twelfth. Coming up next, let's answer three tough questions.
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Speaker 1: question number one. Who is this year's biggest risk reward quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: So this is the quarterback that will provide the highest
Speaker 1: upside and downside among all the available quarterbacks. Who do
Speaker 1: you got, Brian? I'm gonna go with Deshaun Watson, who
Speaker 1: right now is going as a late fifth round pick.
Speaker 1: Really quarterback to in most most drafts. I've seen the
Speaker 1: good with the Shawn. He's got DeAndre Hopkins into arguably
Speaker 1: wide receiver one in all of the world. Uh, hop
Speaker 1: um Sorry. Watson also very mobile, third among quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: rushing yards and touchdowns last season. Has a new o
Speaker 1: C offensive coordinator, Tim Miller, who is highly regarded. Uh.
Speaker 1: He plays great with Will Fuller Watson that is levin
Speaker 1: touchdowns and eleven games when they're on the field together.
Speaker 1: Fuller coming off in a c L reports are somewhat encouraging,
Speaker 1: but uh, that leads me to the bad um. Without
Speaker 1: the proven durability of his secondary receivers will will Fuller,
Speaker 1: who has missed fifteen games over the last two years,
Speaker 1: and Kiki Qtie who missed eleven games last year already
Speaker 1: injured his ankle this preseason. It's all that's been all
Speaker 1: Hopkins and the rushing behind an awful offensive line that
Speaker 1: was forced to sign Matt Khalil of all people who
Speaker 1: might be their left tackle. They didn't forced to sign,
Speaker 1: they just chose to sign. I don't know who does that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, front office does it. I guess No. GM
Speaker 1: eighty one sacks in twenty three games for Watson. I'm
Speaker 1: just afraid history is gonna repeat itself because last year
Speaker 1: he was going to off his quarterback to three, finished
Speaker 1: his quarterback twelve. That's too much of a gap for me,
Speaker 1: and nothing has really changed. I don't trust will Fuller
Speaker 1: stay healthy coming off the A c L. The old
Speaker 1: line is still very wobbly. So he's way too high
Speaker 1: risk high reward for me. All right, who is this
Speaker 1: year's biggest risk reward quarterback? Christian My initial thought when
Speaker 1: I when I got this assignment was Kyler Murray because
Speaker 1: of the massive upside. But you're really not risking much
Speaker 1: with him. A tenth rounder, So instead I went with
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. He's currently the QB four right now by
Speaker 1: a DP somewhere in round seven, round eight ish. The
Speaker 1: upside is obvious. We've already talked a little bit about it.
Speaker 1: But based on his performance from last year, especially in
Speaker 1: the eight games after Freddie Kitchens took over last year, Mayfield,
Speaker 1: through nineteen touchdowns, completed over sixty percent of his passes.
Speaker 1: Really thrived when he started throwing the ball deep down field.
Speaker 1: And then in the off season they go out in
Speaker 1: the add Odell Beckham clearly one of the best deep
Speaker 1: threats in the game. They've got emerging young players all
Speaker 1: over the place here. We talked about Jarvis Landry, David
Speaker 1: tight end, David Najoku, running back, Nick Chubb, maybe later
Speaker 1: in the year, Kareem hot So everything is set up
Speaker 1: for success here. But yeah, we don't really know. It's
Speaker 1: all it's all conjecture. It's all based on what we
Speaker 1: saw in half a season of work. We don't really
Speaker 1: know about Beckham. He could, you know, mess things up
Speaker 1: in the locker room. We've seen him be a divisive force.
Speaker 1: So you're having to take Baker Mayfield is the fourth
Speaker 1: quarterback off the board ahead of Andrew Luck, Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, a lot of much more established players. So
Speaker 1: that's why I think there's their significant risk here as well.
Speaker 1: You gets touched on the two finalists that I chose,
Speaker 1: although it did not ultimately select Kyler. Murray was in
Speaker 1: that conversation until I saw exactly what you did the
Speaker 1: tenth round ADP. I'm not risking enough to Shaun Watson.
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about him later. I think there is
Speaker 1: a lot of risk there. But what about the correct answer.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers going off the board as quarterback three in
Speaker 1: fan among all fantasy players, and to get him you
Speaker 1: gotta go around six. That's not a trivial that's not
Speaker 1: a trivial draft pick. Everything could go right for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Maybe it really was all Mike McCarthy's fault. And maybe
Speaker 1: now he's set up with a coach who has been
Speaker 1: a great quarterback advisor, at least was with the Rams.
Speaker 1: Didn't get anything of Marcus Mariota um and that now
Speaker 1: with Davante Adams, you've got young receivers who look like
Speaker 1: they're going to be a lot better in your number
Speaker 1: two and in Doronto Allison and Marquees Valdez Scantling. Maybe
Speaker 1: it all comes together, or maybe Matt Lafleur is in
Speaker 1: way over his head. He wasn't ready to coach yet,
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to get Marcus Mariota there. Maybe Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to steamroll this guy and try to
Speaker 1: run the team like he did at the end of
Speaker 1: last year after they fired McCarthy, and this thing's gonna
Speaker 1: tank badly. Remember last season, Aaron Rodgers the most scoring systems,
Speaker 1: but somewhere between quarterback twelve and eighteen, he was bad, bad,
Speaker 1: And that's that's a chance that you still have with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Let's move on to tough question number two.
Speaker 1: Who is the biggest risk reward running back this year?
Speaker 1: Christian you get to have the honors to go first. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went back to Cleveland on this one with Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb in part because I've seen him in drafts recently
Speaker 1: being taken as high as number four or number five. Overall,
Speaker 1: people love Nick Chubb right now. It's partially because as
Speaker 1: soon as the Browns traded Duke Johnson away, it became
Speaker 1: clear that they were probably gonna pass a little bit
Speaker 1: more to Chubb, and that was maybe the one part
Speaker 1: of his game that he was missing or that we
Speaker 1: didn't see last year. But we saw how good Chub
Speaker 1: could be last year at the same time Baker Mayfield exploded,
Speaker 1: so did Chub. So I get what I get the
Speaker 1: upside here, and it's tantalizing. What I hate is the
Speaker 1: fact that Kareem Hunt could be back, that could be back,
Speaker 1: will be, We'll be back by week nine. And Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt was one of you know, the top two or three,
Speaker 1: four or five or whatever top fantasy running back uh
Speaker 1: in in every every season that we've seen, So you
Speaker 1: might be cruising along with the overall number one running
Speaker 1: back all season long for the first eight weeks. But
Speaker 1: what happens when Hunt comes back. I mean maybe in
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks they just kind of work
Speaker 1: him in a little bit here and there. But Hunt
Speaker 1: is just so talented that I think he's gonna have
Speaker 1: a significant role after he comes back. And that's a
Speaker 1: risk that I'm not willing to take. All Right, Brian,
Speaker 1: who is the biggest risk reward running back on the
Speaker 1: board for fantasy drafters. I'm gonna stay close to home
Speaker 1: here in Minneapolis and say Dalvin Cook, who right now
Speaker 1: is going in mid second in most drafts, I've seen
Speaker 1: him go in the first and some and that's because
Speaker 1: of this guy is the limit in a bell cow
Speaker 1: role that he should take on this year coming off
Speaker 1: the a c L suffered in Week four last year,
Speaker 1: had the shoulder injuries in college, but makes some little
Speaker 1: injury prone. That's really the only concern for Cook himself
Speaker 1: is the injuries. If he stays healthy, he has RB
Speaker 1: one potential with the Vikings. But what makes him risk
Speaker 1: here outside of the injuries is he's a guy you
Speaker 1: probably want a handcuff. But who are you going to
Speaker 1: handcuff him too? Is it Mike Boone or is it
Speaker 1: Alexander Madison? You know, everybody, everybody close to this team
Speaker 1: says it's Madison. I think that's been the draft capital. Again,
Speaker 1: it's the same, it's the draft capital bit. You gotta
Speaker 1: They picked him in the third round. But Boone has looked,
Speaker 1: you're closer to the team than I am. Charching. Uh,
Speaker 1: I see, I'm I I kind of like Boone. But
Speaker 1: everybody close to the team tells me that it's it's Madison. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not the run with the first team offense in
Speaker 1: every preseason game. I'd like to have at least a
Speaker 1: clear cut handcuff if I'm forced to handcuff of stud
Speaker 1: running back, and that's it's not quite evident there, So
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and when you're when you your league this year,
Speaker 1: But he could lose it if he does get injured.
Speaker 1: But I'm crossing my fingers. I'm all in on him, though,
Speaker 1: So let's go. This year's biggest risk reward running back
Speaker 1: is Leonard four Nett. At this time a year ago,
Speaker 1: four Nette was coming off the board at the end
Speaker 1: of the first round because he was coming off a
Speaker 1: season in which he was RB eight in Fantasy points,
Speaker 1: the eighth highest scoring fantasy player. But last year, as
Speaker 1: you all know, disaster because of the soft tissue injuries
Speaker 1: and a horrible offensive line that was riddled with injuries.
Speaker 1: His running was tentative. He just wasn't himself all year.
Speaker 1: And maybe all that repeats himself. Maybe it's he set
Speaker 1: up for another year of soft tissue injuries. Maybe, but
Speaker 1: the offensive line got improved in the off season. It's
Speaker 1: healthy now and he's got the upside four net does
Speaker 1: of a top five player. He's the rare workhorse in
Speaker 1: a league that has very few workhorses. There's no competition
Speaker 1: for carries here at all. He'll get all of those.
Speaker 1: He's enjoying the best quarterbacking of his career, of his
Speaker 1: career with Nick Foles, and you figure offensive line improved
Speaker 1: and better, and then all the pass catching they've they've
Speaker 1: thrown him in the preseason training camp O t a
Speaker 1: s it looks like he's sitting on a much improved
Speaker 1: PPR production as well, which has when one of the
Speaker 1: few things that seld him back. Leonard four Nette could
Speaker 1: be a top five fantasy player, or we could miss
Speaker 1: the whole season with ongoing growing injuries. So who's to
Speaker 1: say Letard four net the biggest risk reward running back.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to tough question number three. Who is
Speaker 1: the year's biggest risk reward wide receiver? Back? To Brian,
Speaker 1: who you got? I couldn't help myself. It's Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: going uh ninth pick in the second round. Since in
Speaker 1: reverse order, among players who qualify with the most receiving touchdowns,
Speaker 1: it goes like this. Davante Adams thirty nine, Mike Evans forty,
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham forty four, DeAndre Hopkins forty five, Antonio Brown nine.
Speaker 1: We know the upside, uh, but he's on a whole
Speaker 1: new team. We all know that as well. And Derek
Speaker 1: Carr is not Ben Roethlisberger. And I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: my boy Graham Barfield with the stat on a deep
Speaker 1: ball accuracy attempt by season, and these are passes of
Speaker 1: twenty five plus yards. Uh. Roethlisberger in sixteen he was
Speaker 1: the most accurate, seen, the most accurate. Last year, the
Speaker 1: ninth most accurate. Derek Carr the second lowest. Banner year eighteen,
Speaker 1: last year fourth lowest. So, outside of the cerebral issues
Speaker 1: that may exist with Antonio Brown, the quarterbacking and just
Speaker 1: the team in general makes him incredibly volatile, but there
Speaker 1: is certainly a high ceiling if all the cards fall
Speaker 1: the right way with him. All Right, Christian, I too
Speaker 1: went with Antonio Brown the number one, two or three
Speaker 1: fantasy wide receiver five years in a row. I'll pile
Speaker 1: on a little bit about the difference between Pittsburgh and Oakland.
Speaker 1: Last year, Oakland eighty fewer passing yards per game, a
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty fewer pass attempts throughout the season, uh.
Speaker 1: In terms of points scored per game, Pittsburgh scored the
Speaker 1: fifth most points in the league. Oakland scored most points
Speaker 1: in the league. That's eight and a half points per
Speaker 1: game less. And yeah, I mean, we know what the
Speaker 1: upside is, but how's it gonna go for Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: when the Raiders start inevitably start losing this year? This
Speaker 1: guy is a diva. You have no idea what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. So I agree Antonio Brown. Yeah, uh, this
Speaker 1: one was a layup. It is Antonio Brown highest ri
Speaker 1: screw ward. He could be the you know, maybe he
Speaker 1: ends up his wide receiver one again because he's done
Speaker 1: it before, or maybe Oakland's crappy offensive line doesn't give
Speaker 1: Derek Carr even the time to set up on those
Speaker 1: deep passes that Antonio Brown is how so many times
Speaker 1: when he was with Pittsburgh. And then I think you
Speaker 1: raised one of the great points that nobody's talking about.
Speaker 1: He's used to winning at a high level for his
Speaker 1: whole career. Last year was the first time he wasn't
Speaker 1: on a particularly successful playoff bound Steelers team. And what happened,
Speaker 1: you know, he he had to leave the team. They
Speaker 1: got rid of him, what happens when the Raiders start
Speaker 1: one and six? Oh god, I can't tell you for
Speaker 1: sure that at some point the team doesn't ask him
Speaker 1: to leave this year. That's a real possibility that Mayock
Speaker 1: and Gruden just tell him to leave. That's you know,
Speaker 1: this thing could end in a grievance somewhere, you know,
Speaker 1: sitting in a you know, sitting in court. Who knows.
Speaker 1: There's so much weird risk with Antonio Brown. It was
Speaker 1: an easy answer. You all got it right. Hopefully the
Speaker 1: listeners went three and oh. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Let's take my three answers. As for the high risk,
Speaker 1: high reward guys, how would you feel about coming out
Speaker 1: of your draft with all three high risk, high reward
Speaker 1: guys and just taking in saying to yourself, you know what,
Speaker 1: you know, all these guys come with a certain discount
Speaker 1: because of the risk. And I want to roll the dice.
Speaker 1: I've got your It's it's Leonard four Nett you can
Speaker 1: get in the late second round, early third round, it's
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in the sixth round, and it's Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: whose ADP I think is where you can say, second
Speaker 1: third pick, you get four net Brown at the turn second. Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go. That's fair. Is would you feel comfortable
Speaker 1: with that draft strategy? Of course not. I mean I
Speaker 1: generally don't mind the high risk, high rewards sort of
Speaker 1: draft strategy. I mean, rather than finishing sixth or seventh
Speaker 1: place in my league, I'd rather just go for it,
Speaker 1: right I want. I want to win a championship. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm going to. Sometimes I might just be horrible and
Speaker 1: finished near dead last. So I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: But what I don't like are the players. I mean,
Speaker 1: four Net and Rogers just don't do anything for me that.
Speaker 1: I think the risks far away the reward on Brown.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't do it with those. I could live
Speaker 1: with Fournet, Rodgers. It's Brown that's scared, especially where he's
Speaker 1: going in a lot of drafts right now. It's to me,
Speaker 1: I my risk profile, my draft. I want the risk
Speaker 1: at the bottom of my draft, not the top middle
Speaker 1: of my draft. So I couldn't. I couldn't stomach having
Speaker 1: that much risk coming in my rounds three and four,
Speaker 1: in five and six too early. We've done dozens of drafts,
Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes you look back at least I do,
Speaker 1: and you realize there are guys I never drafted. We
Speaker 1: will look at the guys that are in the black
Speaker 1: hole of fantasy. Find out our blacklist, the guys we
Speaker 1: never draft. Coming up next on Fantasy Football Weekly. It
Speaker 1: is a pre season addition of Fantasy Football Weekly. I
Speaker 1: am Paul Charchy, and you know you're seeing. Your draft
Speaker 1: is about picking the right players, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: also about avoiding the wrong players. That's half the battle, right.
Speaker 1: We talk all the time about the players we want
Speaker 1: to take, but we don't always talk about the players
Speaker 1: that we don't plan to draft. Often it's not always
Speaker 1: just a matter of just like I don't like that guy,
Speaker 1: I would never draft him under any circumstances. We're gonna
Speaker 1: break down three quarterbacks, three running backs, and three wide
Speaker 1: receivers we never draft. You know, all the mock drafts
Speaker 1: we've done, the real drafts that we've done, the guillotine
Speaker 1: league drafts, all the things. No matter the format, the
Speaker 1: scoring system, the situation, these are guys we never end
Speaker 1: up with. Will begin at the quarterback position. Brian Johnson,
Speaker 1: who you got? I got? Andrew Luck and uh and all. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'd look before the injury concerns that have popped up
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks or the last week
Speaker 1: or so. Um, he was going a quarterback three before
Speaker 1: the injury news. Now he's more like quarterback six, going
Speaker 1: roughly the first pick in the eighth round. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: my number seven quarterback. I might cheat, And in general,
Speaker 1: I'm just a weight on a quarterback guy in one
Speaker 1: quarterback leagues, which just put some way out of my
Speaker 1: purview already. But I'm even fading him in two quarterback formats.
Speaker 1: I'm just not playing this injury game with Luck. We've
Speaker 1: seen a couple of years ago. Granted it's an ankle now,
Speaker 1: not not his shoulder, which in cold bodes better for
Speaker 1: a quarterback I suppose. But Jacoby Brissette might be the
Speaker 1: best backup in the NFL, and Indies like shopping him
Speaker 1: or if someone wants him, they got to give up
Speaker 1: a means he's not going anywhere, and right now you
Speaker 1: couldn't you know. They're not moving set at all right now,
Speaker 1: and they have confidence in him going into the season,
Speaker 1: so there's no rush to bring Luck back. And when
Speaker 1: they do, we saw it already last year. He used
Speaker 1: to run the ball a fair amount and it's four
Speaker 1: like full seasons, four full healthy seasons. He was averaging
Speaker 1: well over sixty rushing rushing attempts for for the year.
Speaker 1: It has just forty six rushing atemps last year, so
Speaker 1: that was a significant drop. It's gonna drop further behind
Speaker 1: a great old line with a strong running game and
Speaker 1: a good defense that they don't need Luck to be
Speaker 1: running the ball around, especially Hurt. So I'm just all
Speaker 1: out on Andrew Luck not touching him. I don't care
Speaker 1: if it drops to quarterback ten. I mean, I'm increasingly
Speaker 1: interested in Luck because he's becoming so cheap that if
Speaker 1: it's only going to cost me, you know, instead of
Speaker 1: costing me the fifth rounder that he was three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: it's now going to cost me an eighth or ninth
Speaker 1: rounder and I can just go him up with somebody
Speaker 1: else later. That's starting to get more palatable to me.
Speaker 1: I'm more interested in him, all right, Christian, who do
Speaker 1: you have as your blacklist quarterback the guy you never
Speaker 1: end up drafting. I've got Patrick mahomes Um, and believe
Speaker 1: it or not, he is my number one quarterback. That's
Speaker 1: not the issue. But his ADP right now is twenty
Speaker 1: three overall, So that's late second round. You know, all
Speaker 1: you have to do is you can google Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and regression and you will find all sorts of articles
Speaker 1: that talk about how he most likely can't possibly repeat
Speaker 1: his historically good season from last year. Nobody's ever done
Speaker 1: it before, nobody, nobody's ever So I'll just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to list out all of those reasons.
Speaker 1: Here's the one that I like the best that I found.
Speaker 1: Since there have been thirteen seasons in which a quarterback
Speaker 1: through forty or more touchdowns in a season. This list
Speaker 1: includes Tom Brady, Peyton Manning several times, Dan Marino, Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: you know, all time grades in in the following year,
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks average sixteen and a half fewer touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: And even if if you factor out things like Tom
Speaker 1: Brady missed an entire season, if you go to the
Speaker 1: next season after that, even if you factor an injury,
Speaker 1: then it's still is thirteen fewer touchdowns the following years.
Speaker 1: So I just can't justify spending a second rounder on
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. You're basically paying for another record setting historical
Speaker 1: season at that price. The next quarterback off the board
Speaker 1: right now is the Shaun Watson forty spots later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I just I can't risk a second rounder and
Speaker 1: when I can just get a perfectly good quarterback a
Speaker 1: lot later on. But there's this with Mahomes other than
Speaker 1: history telling us it's very unlikely. Name a reason. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's the problem, right He looks so good and
Speaker 1: so incredible and kills back all of this talent there
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid's offense, and there are a lot of
Speaker 1: reasons why it couldn't happen. It couldn't buck the trend.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing about Patrick Mahomes that makes him
Speaker 1: to me still enticing Fantasy football is about having fun.
Speaker 1: And when he goes back to pass and you see
Speaker 1: him launching that sixty yard pass behind the back, or
Speaker 1: that the sixty yard or it's at its apex of
Speaker 1: its arc, and so are you off the couch. You're
Speaker 1: spilling the popcorn and the beer all over the place.
Speaker 1: You were jumping off the couch to see if it's
Speaker 1: going to be resting in the arms of Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: on the other end, and it might be. He's so
Speaker 1: exciting and so fun to have on your team. Everybody
Speaker 1: who didn't have him last year. Wants Patrick Mahomes this
Speaker 1: year because you were watching those highlights and just going oh,
Speaker 1: I could have had him in the tenth round last year,
Speaker 1: and I passed on him, and I dive. That's the
Speaker 1: thing about Patrick Mahomes. But the regression is probably coming.
Speaker 1: I've got to Shawn Watson. Bran already broke down a
Speaker 1: lot of Deshaun Watson. While he's nervous about him, I
Speaker 1: am too. He is my one of my highest rated quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: He's my number three quarterback. So you know, much like
Speaker 1: you with Patrick Mahomes, I like him a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: not paying my six round a DP on Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: U there's certainly upside. He can run, his run and
Speaker 1: pass his way to points, and I love that. But
Speaker 1: I can find other quarterbacks who can run and pass
Speaker 1: their way to points for a lot less and not
Speaker 1: have to pay the six round a DP. I can
Speaker 1: get Baker Mayfield with some mobility in the eighth round.
Speaker 1: I can get Russell Wilson in the tenth round, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson and the eleventh round, Dak Prescott in the twelfth round,
Speaker 1: and they give me run pass options and I don't
Speaker 1: have to pay anywhere near that much. And I'll remind
Speaker 1: you Watson suffered sixty two spine shattering sacks last year,
Speaker 1: sixty two. The fact that he played every game was
Speaker 1: a miracle. He's like thirty years old, now, that's right.
Speaker 1: They they they've sacked him into an early and early grave.
Speaker 1: If he if I told you he was going to
Speaker 1: absorb another sixty two sacks behind Pro Football Focus is
Speaker 1: thirty first ranked offensive line. Would you tell me he's
Speaker 1: gonna play sixteen games? It's not. It's not promising. That's
Speaker 1: why I can't take Deshaun Watson. Let's continue on with
Speaker 1: our blacklist. These are the guys that we never find
Speaker 1: ourselves drafting. We begin now with the running back position.
Speaker 1: Brian who This guy is sure to disappoint all those
Speaker 1: in the black hole. It's Josh Jacobs. No, thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. By the way, the famed backup to Damien
Speaker 1: Harris at their time at Alabama didn't even start. Only
Speaker 1: the Raiders would take the backup over the starter. And
Speaker 1: that's really does it. Uh. I don't trust anything that
Speaker 1: Oakland does. They're carrying four running backs into the season.
Speaker 1: By the way. That doesn't bode well for Josh Jacobs
Speaker 1: and Jalen Richard is going to own the third down
Speaker 1: work regardless of Jacobs or Doug Martin getting the majority
Speaker 1: of the carries. It will be Jacobs to start the season,
Speaker 1: but again they're running behind a really bad old line
Speaker 1: ranks twenty six by Pro Football Focus. When you have
Speaker 1: to go out and sign Richie Incognito for depth, that's
Speaker 1: not so Jacob's in the early fourth I'm just fully
Speaker 1: out on this. I don't I don't see him returning
Speaker 1: even RB two value throughout the season. He's FLEXI play
Speaker 1: at best in my mind. Okay, Christian your black list
Speaker 1: running back. I will go with Todd Gurley and let
Speaker 1: me tell you a few things about degenerative knee arthritis.
Speaker 1: A right good at first. You may notice pain in
Speaker 1: the morning or after you've been inactive for a while.
Speaker 1: Your knees may hurt when you climb stairs, stand up
Speaker 1: from a sitting position, or Neil, well, wait, does he
Speaker 1: ever have to stand up from a sitting position? Todd curling. Never.
Speaker 1: It may hurt just to go for a walk. You
Speaker 1: may also feel pain when you're simply sitting down. Some
Speaker 1: people with arthritis say that damp weather or other changes
Speaker 1: in the weather can bring on pain. Well is in
Speaker 1: l a so you don't have to sweat that that.
Speaker 1: Some people with arthritis say that when multiple three pound
Speaker 1: men are constantly attempting to bash, crush, and generally grind
Speaker 1: your body into a million tiny pieces, that may also
Speaker 1: bring on pain. Over time, your knee muscles weaken and
Speaker 1: the entire joint structure becomes unstable. Overall, weakness in the
Speaker 1: knee can cause it to give way or buckle. The
Speaker 1: joint can also stick or lock up so that you
Speaker 1: can't bend or straighten it out. Eventually. You may feel
Speaker 1: a grinding sensation in your knees as you move. I'm
Speaker 1: filling one right now. Just listening to you might even
Speaker 1: hear cracking or popping sounds coming from your knees. Arthritis
Speaker 1: can make it increasingly challenging for your knee joints to
Speaker 1: glide as they should, making previously simple movements difficult or
Speaker 1: even impossible. You're most likely to notice a restricted range
Speaker 1: of motion when you climb stairs or participate in athletic
Speaker 1: activities like football. May you may have trouble walking without
Speaker 1: a cane or a walker for all of these reasons.
Speaker 1: Time out on Todd Gurley and his chronically arthritic knee. Yes,
Speaker 1: I've got James Conner currently going off the board is
Speaker 1: the last pick of the first round, and what a
Speaker 1: mistake that's going to be. I think for people now
Speaker 1: in some cases we're saying we love Patrick Mahomes, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take him. I liked to Shaun Watson, but
Speaker 1: you know, but I wouldn't take him where he's going.
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want any to do with
Speaker 1: James Conner at this price. Every single person who has
Speaker 1: commented about the backfield in Pittsburgh that has a reason
Speaker 1: to know says it's going to be a time share.
Speaker 1: James Connor called it a time share. Jalen Samuels called
Speaker 1: it a time share. The coaches called it a time share.
Speaker 1: In the second half of last season, Connor regressed badly.
Speaker 1: His touches per game dropped by a third, his yards
Speaker 1: per game dropped in half, his touchdowns per game dropped
Speaker 1: in half, his yards per carry went from almost five
Speaker 1: down to four, and after missing zero games in the
Speaker 1: first half of last year, Connor missed three in the
Speaker 1: second half. Everything trended the wrong way at the end
Speaker 1: of last year. So then there's Jalen Samuel's. In the
Speaker 1: second half of last season, when Jalen Samuels started getting work,
Speaker 1: he averaged two more touches than Connor did. He averaged
Speaker 1: thirty two more yards than Connor did. He averaged an
Speaker 1: additional one point two yards per carry. I told you
Speaker 1: connors average per carry dropped a lot. Samuel's was better,
Speaker 1: and as a converted tight end, Samuel's receiving numbers were
Speaker 1: better than Connors, and Connors were also solid, but Samuels
Speaker 1: were even better. Connors also got to overcome his own position, coach,
Speaker 1: Eddie Faulkner, who coached Samuel's at North Carolina State. While together,
Speaker 1: Samuels was a workhorse for Eddie Faulkner, setting the school's
Speaker 1: all time reception record with two two catches and earning
Speaker 1: All a CEC honors twice. That's his own coach. Now
Speaker 1: for the Steelers man, that's a lot to overcome for
Speaker 1: James Conner and a lot of worry for me. All Right,
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go to our final position on our blacklist,
Speaker 1: and that's the wide receiver position, and Brian Johnson. We'll
Speaker 1: stay with the same team, and I'm going Juju. I'm
Speaker 1: not drafting Juju really going the last pick in the
Speaker 1: first round, very early second. So my receiver three to
Speaker 1: six depending on those rankings you're looking at, where do
Speaker 1: you have them charged? They're higher on Juju than O.
Speaker 1: I love. Juju's my number two receiver. We're gonna hate
Speaker 1: this one. Well, I'm not drafting Juju. A hundred sixty
Speaker 1: eight targets vacated by Antonio Brown. Juju is not going
Speaker 1: to absorb really any of those. He already had a
Speaker 1: very prominent role in this offense. Unlikely to change running
Speaker 1: out the slot. All the vacated targets are gonna be
Speaker 1: dispersed among DNTE Moncrief, James Washington, Vance McDonald, maybe some
Speaker 1: Jalen Samuel's even Uh, none of those guys are Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: Obviously you put them all together and not not Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: I think Juju is gonna draw a lot more attention,
Speaker 1: uh than last year. That's not too far fetched to
Speaker 1: think he's clearly the number one threat in the receiving
Speaker 1: game now. Uh. The Steelers are consensus bottom twelve in
Speaker 1: terms of wide receiver strength of schedule. I like him
Speaker 1: to be a top ten wide receiver. I like him
Speaker 1: to repeat his performance of last year, but I just
Speaker 1: don't see him best seeing the likes of Julio Jones
Speaker 1: and Tyreek Kill guys who are going in that same range,
Speaker 1: and I honestly would take those two ten out of
Speaker 1: ten times over Juju. But that is just to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, there are thing parts that I agree
Speaker 1: with you. There isn't a lot of room for him
Speaker 1: to grow, but you do doesn't even have to grow.
Speaker 1: He was great last year, and even if he just
Speaker 1: increments up by ten percent, I think he's you know,
Speaker 1: he could be wide shaver. One. I went with Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown here and we've kind of we've kind of beat
Speaker 1: that one to death Therety. I will say just just
Speaker 1: one additional thing about it is that the fact that
Speaker 1: he scored so many touchdowns last year kind of masked
Speaker 1: the fact that his numbers have been decreasing now for
Speaker 1: the last four or five years in terms of catch percentage. Uh,
Speaker 1: last year he caught only sixty of the passes thrown
Speaker 1: his way. That's a career low since he became a starter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just four years earlier that was at and the touchdown.
Speaker 1: The touchdown receiving from last year is just unsustainable. He
Speaker 1: scored fourteen on fourteen point four percent of his catches
Speaker 1: last year. His career average before that was just over
Speaker 1: eight percent, so almost double. So a lot of reasons
Speaker 1: I don't like Antonio Brown this year. My blacklist wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay currently going in the fourth round. And it's
Speaker 1: not that he's not a good player. He he is
Speaker 1: a good player, and he's, by the way, terrific matchup
Speaker 1: coming in Week one. It gets the Cardinal and darry
Speaker 1: missing its top two cornerbacks. He's setting it on potentially
Speaker 1: great Week one. But the Lions are a running team.
Speaker 1: It started last year and it's going to expand this year.
Speaker 1: This is the quote from Lions offensive coordinator Darryl Bubble.
Speaker 1: Will always be about running the football. We want to
Speaker 1: be a tough, hard nosed, physical football team. We want
Speaker 1: to be able to exert our will on our opponents.
Speaker 1: And it's true. Matt Patricia grew up in the Patriots system,
Speaker 1: including acting as the team's defensive coordinator for five years.
Speaker 1: Six years. During his tenure, the Patriots ran the ball
Speaker 1: the six most times. Despite having Tom Brady at quarterback,
Speaker 1: they ran the ball the six most times, and obviously
Speaker 1: it worked out for the Patriots multiple championships under Matt Patricia.
Speaker 1: In the year before Patricia arrived, the Lions ran the
Speaker 1: second fewest times. Last year, in Patricia's first year, they
Speaker 1: that went all the way from thirty one to eighteen,
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the pack. Now this year
Speaker 1: they bring in Daryl Bebble to run the ball more.
Speaker 1: As offensive coordinator for twelve years, Darryl Bevil's teams ran
Speaker 1: the second most times in the NFL. There's just too
Speaker 1: much running. Darryl Bevil's averages thirty runs per game thirty.
Speaker 1: There's just gonna be games, so the targets just aren't
Speaker 1: there for Kenny Golladay, and I think you're gonna have
Speaker 1: an inconsistent season beginning in week two after he houses
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in Week one, Hi after Week one. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna draft Kenny Golladay, for sure, our final topics
Speaker 1: are had. When we look at the upside and the
Speaker 1: downside of rushing quarterbacks. Can you put your team in
Speaker 1: the hands of a quarterback who needs to run you
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Speaker 1: Football's rushing quarterbacks in a few moments, but first, every
Speaker 1: week we give out one sleeper a piece. Now we've
Speaker 1: already used Jalen Samuel's, Curtis Samuel, donte Moncrief, c J Anderson,
Speaker 1: Darren Waller, Latavius Murray, Peyton Barber, Tyler Eifford, Robbie Anderson,
Speaker 1: and Adam Humphries. Let's see who we're going to add.
Speaker 1: Those are in previous shows. Let's see you we're gonna
Speaker 1: add to the list this time, Christian, I'll let you
Speaker 1: go first. Yeah, I've got I've got Darwin Thompson, who
Speaker 1: we we touched on earlier in this show. Just a
Speaker 1: sixth round draft pick. Guy wasn't even invited to the combine.
Speaker 1: Usually that's a bad sign. But if we look at
Speaker 1: his pro day measurements and extrapolate those to the people
Speaker 1: that did participate in the combine, he would have been
Speaker 1: third among all running backs in the vertical fifth in
Speaker 1: the broad jump, second in the bench press. He ran
Speaker 1: the forty and four point four seven, which isn't not bad,
Speaker 1: but it's fast. Pro Football Focus has a measurement that
Speaker 1: they call Elusive rating where they measure running back. Thompson
Speaker 1: ranked first among all college backs in that rating. Last year.
Speaker 1: I thought it was Montgomery was first, all right, That's
Speaker 1: what I what I found, right, okay? Um, And so
Speaker 1: physically part of the problem, part of the reason he
Speaker 1: fell to the sixth round is because he's all of
Speaker 1: five short, right, So, but he's comparable to to Tarik Cone,
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay, Matt Brada, who have all had a lot
Speaker 1: of success over the last couple of years. In fact, Lindsay,
Speaker 1: I think is a great comparison here. That guy was
Speaker 1: didn't get invited to the Combine either undrafted, came from
Speaker 1: out of nowhere in the preseason, kind of like Thompson is.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in Damian Williams. I think this job
Speaker 1: is going to be turned over to Darwin Thompson, who's
Speaker 1: already mixing in with the first team. He's already taking
Speaker 1: some red zone looks in in training camp. So I
Speaker 1: think this is a potential league winner. And right now
Speaker 1: you only have to spend an eleventh or twelfth rounder.
Speaker 1: All right, Brian, who is your sleeper for this week?
Speaker 1: Real quick? Just attack on? I laugh and anyone just
Speaker 1: spills the notion that Thompson can use Sir Williams because
Speaker 1: he's a sixth round right, Williams was undrafted, there's no
Speaker 1: capital in him. But for Williams Williams defense, there are
Speaker 1: character issues and stuff on talent alone, Williams would have
Speaker 1: absolutely been drafted and probably like day two, so there
Speaker 1: was that. And also Williams languished in Miami with the
Speaker 1: terrible teams, and you know, Miami's done plenty of had
Speaker 1: plenty of mistakes, so you know, he was never a
Speaker 1: big part of what Miami did. But it takes takes
Speaker 1: some people four years to get to get there at
Speaker 1: the time. Maybe in some cases that's the case. How
Speaker 1: come you don't give Lamar Miller the benefit of the
Speaker 1: doubt for the years he stunk on two teams. That's
Speaker 1: why that Texans line is not good. We've come all right. Well,
Speaker 1: my sleeper is not Lamar Miller. Um, it's a guy
Speaker 1: who if I were allowed to play in the Crush
Speaker 1: Charts Championship with the one thousand dollar prize for his
Speaker 1: place for free, I would target Matt Stafford, whose bottom
Speaker 1: five and pricing on Fanball in week one. By the way,
Speaker 1: uh And it really this speaks to maybe the Cam
Speaker 1: Newton Andrew Luck owners out there who might need a
Speaker 1: replacement to come week one. Well, you might have a
Speaker 1: solid replacement for the first four weeks. Now, this is
Speaker 1: a little contradictory, contradictory to your blacklist. Kenny Golladay call
Speaker 1: saying Detroit wants to run the ball a lot, and yes,
Speaker 1: they've gone out and said that, but Detroit has also
Speaker 1: wanted to win playoff games or go to the playoffs
Speaker 1: since they've been in existence. That never really came to fruition,
Speaker 1: maybe once or twice. But so let's just let's just
Speaker 1: look at the matchups for Stafford on paper. Starting it
Speaker 1: at Arizona, who will be without both starting cornerbacks Patrick
Speaker 1: Peterson and Robert Alfred will miss this game. Great matchup there, UH.
Speaker 1: In Week two at home against the Chargers, who just
Speaker 1: lost Derwin James, all Pro safety easily the lynchpin of
Speaker 1: that secondary, arguably the whole defense, so that's a huge
Speaker 1: ding for them. Then at Philly, who allowed the second
Speaker 1: most passing yards last year, always a pretty good uh
Speaker 1: matchup for quarterbacks and wide receivers. And then in Week
Speaker 1: four they have Kansas City at home, always shoot out potential.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs allowed the fifth most passing touchdowns in the
Speaker 1: most passing yards last year. So Matt's Stafford, who really
Speaker 1: getting undrafted maybe in one quarterback leagues, could be a
Speaker 1: viable plug in play for first four weeks. So I
Speaker 1: likes you know, combo there with Stafford and Galada. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that could be What about this idea? So we talked
Speaker 1: earlier Andrew Luck is now going at a discount because
Speaker 1: so everybody's worried about him, you know, but nobody thinks
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be available like October. So if he's
Speaker 1: gonna miss a handful of games, you could make Matth Stafford,
Speaker 1: matth Stafford the last pick of your draft and handcuffed
Speaker 1: the you know, put those two together and then you know,
Speaker 1: go to war. You could there's gonna be soone enticing
Speaker 1: in the eighth round. Though, that's going back to my
Speaker 1: Luck blacklist call. That's why it depends. It all depends.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's certainly a viable strategy without a doubt.
Speaker 1: My sleeper this week is another quarterback, Carson Wentz. A
Speaker 1: DP is the tenth round for Carson Wentz. We alluded
Speaker 1: to this earlier. Look at the plethora of targets available
Speaker 1: to him. Not only does he have the returning guys
Speaker 1: all Sean Jeffrey's very good, Zach Ertz very good, a
Speaker 1: number of receivers, receiving running backs who can all catch passes.
Speaker 1: We have Dallas Goddard, who has shined in the preseason
Speaker 1: and as a former first rounder or second rounder for Dallas.
Speaker 1: Goddard don't quite recall they add in the off season
Speaker 1: to Sean Jackson for a deep ball threat that Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz has never had even with the big arm. And
Speaker 1: then rookie j j Arthega Whiteside, who looks awesome so far.
Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, true story. You know
Speaker 1: when you're you're teaching your kid all the animals, sounds
Speaker 1: like every parent does, right. You know, Kyle goes right.
Speaker 1: You know all that shark goes. I did that. I
Speaker 1: taught her shark right. She doesn't have any idea, but
Speaker 1: I go shark goes dat dot dot dot. She didn't
Speaker 1: know what she's doing, but I had a ton of
Speaker 1: fun with it. The Eagles have Pro Football focuses number
Speaker 1: one offensive line, so you know Wentz is going to
Speaker 1: be well protected. Remember the last time he was fully
Speaker 1: healthy seen he was charging to the NFL MVP Award
Speaker 1: and at the time of his his a c L injury,
Speaker 1: was the second highest scoring fantasy quarterback, second highest scoring
Speaker 1: fantasy quarterback as a sophomore in the NFL. Now another
Speaker 1: you're removed from that a c L injury, it's a
Speaker 1: it's an incredibly promising situation for Carson Wentz, who I
Speaker 1: think has the potential to be the NFL m v
Speaker 1: P again because I think the Eagles are going to
Speaker 1: be a fantastic team. ADP tenth round for Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: Are you worried at all about the back the back
Speaker 1: injury that knocked him out last year? And and and
Speaker 1: I find it a little worrisome that they're not playing
Speaker 1: them at all in the preseason like this. This is
Speaker 1: a young guy in the prime of his career and
Speaker 1: they're already having him. Are they so worried starters? The
Speaker 1: Raiders aren't playing their starters for Pete's sake. I don't
Speaker 1: think that says anything about his health or ability. To
Speaker 1: be honest, and you touched on it earlier, CP. You're
Speaker 1: trying to guess week in and week out, week out,
Speaker 1: who's going to be the hot Philly receiver. Who's going
Speaker 1: to succeed with all of those targets just draft I
Speaker 1: don't have to. I don't care who's catching the ball.
Speaker 1: All I know all I got is the trigger man. Now, um,
Speaker 1: we've heard Brian Johnson in previous weeks make the same
Speaker 1: the same argument for Jared Goff. I don't have to
Speaker 1: guess if it's gonna be Woods or Cook or or Cup.
Speaker 1: What got Jared Goff? You don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: That's part of why I love Carson Wentz. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about So there's your three sleepers for this week. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about rushing quarterbacks. I've done a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of analysis on the Russia. It's the deepest year
Speaker 1: ever for rushing quarterbacks. There are so many right now,
Speaker 1: and they're so game changing. I've identified eight returning quarterbacks
Speaker 1: who I qualify as a rushing quarterback. Here's kind of
Speaker 1: my criteria. The average at least twenty four rushing yards
Speaker 1: per game, half a touchdown most leagues point wise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Um. Or you're Dak Prescott who got nineteen
Speaker 1: rushing yards per game but also ran in six touchdowns,
Speaker 1: So I'm lumping him in there too, um, and I'm
Speaker 1: throwing out Blake Bortles. That gives me my eight guys
Speaker 1: who are now Dak Prescott. Do I mentioned Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, Mitch Rubisky, Deshaun Watson, Cam Newton, Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: and then by a huge margin, Lamar Jackson, who's get
Speaker 1: off the charts on the rush. I'm a little surprised
Speaker 1: Mariota made that list. I didn't either, but he was.
Speaker 1: He was in the he was in the ballpark for
Speaker 1: this um. And then the rookie class adds another guy
Speaker 1: for sure, Kyler Murray absolutely in right, potentially on a
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson like level. Correct, yes, he's on a Vic
Speaker 1: Jackson like potential for his rushing ability. So that gives
Speaker 1: us nine. And I got nine rushing quarterbacks in here,
Speaker 1: and and you know, let's throw out Barrio because not
Speaker 1: even want him. I think he's the first quarterback to
Speaker 1: get bench. Let's go back and eight eight rushing quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in your draft. Why does rushing matter? Those eight players?
Speaker 1: Last year, none of them ranked lower than fourteenth, and
Speaker 1: fantasy points per game, none of the eight ranked lower
Speaker 1: than fourteen. Yet an average draft position today, five of
Speaker 1: them are more than fourteen, and as a group, their
Speaker 1: average rank in Fantasy points last year was eight. As
Speaker 1: a group, those eight guys, they averaged QB eight This
Speaker 1: year on average, they're going at QB fourteen in drafts
Speaker 1: right now. There's so much value in these rushing quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and people aren't recognizing it. And we're here to talk
Speaker 1: about that delta that people are missing between the the
Speaker 1: production we had last year and where they're being drafted now. Well,
Speaker 1: I thank you obviously, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. Allen
Speaker 1: pump up those numbers for the rushing quarterbacks. Those guys
Speaker 1: didn't see significant playing time until the second half of
Speaker 1: the season. To so imagine that season would be absolutely
Speaker 1: from some examples of great value coming for these players.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson right now is QB fifteen, Dak Prescott is
Speaker 1: QB eight, team, Mitch Trubisky's QB twenty, and Josh Allen
Speaker 1: is QB twenty three off the board right now. An
Speaker 1: average draft position, you know, pure passing quarterbacks need to
Speaker 1: have super human performances to equal what a top rushing
Speaker 1: a quarterback will give you when they run just reasonably
Speaker 1: well that's it. You know, mahomes can give you those
Speaker 1: superhuman efforts, but most guys can't. Let's take a look
Speaker 1: at it, and here's why. Let's say your quarterback runs
Speaker 1: for forty rushing yards, it's a reasonable amount and wouldn't
Speaker 1: shock anybody, right. In most leagues, that's the equivalent of
Speaker 1: one hundred twenty passing yards a multiple of three passing yards.
Speaker 1: That means those forty rushing yards would turn a two
Speaker 1: hundred twenty yard passing day into a three forty yard
Speaker 1: passing day with the rushing numbers as an example. So
Speaker 1: your rushing quarterback, you know, pick a guy Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: If he runs for forty and he throws for two twenty,
Speaker 1: that's the equivalent of three or forty passing yards, and
Speaker 1: that's a great day by any measure. A rushing touchdowns
Speaker 1: worth one and a half passing touchdowns in most scoring
Speaker 1: systems roughly, So that means you're forgettable. One passing touchdown
Speaker 1: game turns into a nearly three or one passing or
Speaker 1: one rushing touch you're forgettable. One passing touchdown game turns
Speaker 1: into a nearly three passing touchdown game if you also
Speaker 1: have a rushing touchdown, a one passing games, a one
Speaker 1: watching game. So you roll that together and you just
Speaker 1: got freaky upside, freaking upside. Now, the downside with the
Speaker 1: rushing quarterbacks, if they don't run, they don't rush for
Speaker 1: the forty inconsistent. Now you're in trouble. Right. So if
Speaker 1: you get the two yard passing game and the one
Speaker 1: touchdown pass and they don't run in and anything meaningful,
Speaker 1: now you've got that. Part of the problem is it's
Speaker 1: very hard to predict that. So I say this as
Speaker 1: a longtime owner of Cam Newton over many many years, like,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't get into a situation where you're
Speaker 1: trying to predict it and you're benching them or starting
Speaker 1: them based on matchups because you never know when they're
Speaker 1: going to go off for two rushing touchdowns, and so
Speaker 1: you have to you have to be willing to just
Speaker 1: kind of stick them in your lineup and take take
Speaker 1: the good with the bad. That's right. We visited, revisited
Speaker 1: the freakiest upside of a rushing quarterback in Michael Vick
Speaker 1: in the game when he's with the Eagles, and I'll
Speaker 1: never forget that game. Three thirty and four through the
Speaker 1: air and like eight yards and two touchdowns on the ground. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: The best, the best fantasy performance by I think any
Speaker 1: player ever history of fantasy was that way. It's up there.
Speaker 1: Now here's one of the strategies I love. In two
Speaker 1: quarterback leagues or QB flex leagues, you draft two rushing quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: We talked about how you can get Lamar Jackson late
Speaker 1: and Mitch Drabinsky and Dak Prescott and Josh Allen late.
Speaker 1: You put two of them in knowing that the likelihood
Speaker 1: that they both flop in the same week is very low,
Speaker 1: and what they both give you the freaky upside. So
Speaker 1: what do you think of that? What do you think
Speaker 1: of that strategy? And QB flex do you take two
Speaker 1: of the rushing quarterbacks. You don't have to spend it.
Speaker 1: You're mitigating your risk a little bit there, and so
Speaker 1: you're you're more likely to go into a season where
Speaker 1: you have you have multiple of these sort of up
Speaker 1: and down risky Russian quarterbacks because you can just play
Speaker 1: them both all the time. You can play them both
Speaker 1: and that's the that's the beauty of it. You don't
Speaker 1: have to guess if this is going to be the
Speaker 1: game where Josh Allen, you know, ends up scrambling out
Speaker 1: of a pocket and running down field. And by the way,
Speaker 1: to your earlier point about Mahomes, it's kind of fun
Speaker 1: to have Lamar Jackson and you know that you might
Speaker 1: break a fifty yard touchdown run at at any moment
Speaker 1: in time. That's a great point, a great point um.
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