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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: and we are back with John Olson. His latest book,

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Speaker 1: Stranger West, is website linked up at Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: am dot com. John, why do you think the people

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Speaker 1: the paranormal, it has been for years. What do you

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Speaker 1: think draws people to it? You know, I think it's

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Speaker 1: just the unknown, the the belief that that you know,

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Speaker 1: there are things out there that we can't explain, whether

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Speaker 1: it's you know, scientifically yet or whatever it is. Whether

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Speaker 1: you know, some people's passion or UFOs and some are

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Speaker 1: Bigfoot or cryptids, and just the fact that that there's

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Speaker 1: That um, there's almost this feeling of magic still in

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Speaker 1: have a paranormal experience, whether it's a ghost or UFO

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is, um, they want to understand what

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Speaker 1: I think that really drives people on. I remember as

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Speaker 1: a child, or as a as a I guess a

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Speaker 1: young adult watching this show on Fox about the Magician

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Speaker 1: that would show a trick and then he would show

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Speaker 1: how it was done. And I remember being so angry

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Speaker 1: as a kid because it seemed like it almost wiped

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Speaker 1: away the magic. Yeah, the odd surprise of it. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's that that part that we all have

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Speaker 1: that we want to we want to believe, and we

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Speaker 1: want to understand, and definitely with you know, we all

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Speaker 1: we all are going to pass through, through and pass

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Speaker 1: on where you know, none of us get out of

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Speaker 1: this alive. So it's it's that wanting to understand, you know,

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Speaker 1: that there is something after this life helps people as

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Speaker 1: well and also the you know, those of us who

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Speaker 1: have lost loved ones. These stories help us to understand

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Speaker 1: that they may be physically gone, but they're not completely gone,

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Speaker 1: and I think that brings comfort to people as well.

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Speaker 1: We'll take calls with John Olson next hour and in

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Speaker 1: the perhaps even your paranormal stories. Is there a dark

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Speaker 1: side to the paranormal engehn? Oh, yeah, definitely there is.

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Speaker 1: Um Most of the stories that I write about are

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Speaker 1: generally people who have stumbled across something by accident, and

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Speaker 1: there are definitely things that you can stumble across um

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Speaker 1: I think. For example, I interviewed a gentleman named Tyler

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Speaker 1: and his story is in the book, and him and

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Speaker 1: his girlfriend Jill. It was the early two thousands, and

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Speaker 1: he was not an outdoorsman, but she had grown up camping,

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Speaker 1: and so he promised to take her camping. So they

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Speaker 1: had gone. They lived just outside of Sparks, Nevada, and

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Speaker 1: they went to the Sierra Mountains to just find a

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Speaker 1: place to camp, and they did and they had a

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Speaker 1: nice evening. He said there was a really heavy, scary

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Speaker 1: fact that he'd never really camped before, never spent the

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Speaker 1: this this person what he originally thought was a person

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Speaker 1: He said that, well, it was standing there bracing itself

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Speaker 1: from like a ghoul or something. Yes, exactly. And his

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Speaker 1: I believe they went ran into what is called a windigo,

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Speaker 1: A lot of times, especially in this person's case, they

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Speaker 1: an extremely scary situation. I bet so. Now other cryptids,

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Speaker 1: quite a few Bigfoot stories. Would you say thirty percent

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Speaker 1: close to that. Yep, there's a good mixture but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it seems to be quite a few of those in

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Speaker 1: seems to be a hot spot for him John Olson

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Speaker 1: Of all these stories that you've uncovered, which ones, of course,

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Speaker 1: You know? I probably would go back to either cryptids

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Speaker 1: Glitches in the matrix seem to be just abnormal things

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Speaker 1: world that you want to be dealing with, John, what

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that it's closer than we think.

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Speaker 1: pretty easy that we might come across them. I definitely

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Speaker 1: book latest book, Stranger West Paranormal True Stories from Western

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Speaker 1: United States. Are you ever going to branch out to

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Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, I'm still collecting stories and

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Speaker 1: to see a sasquatch or big fund. You would, I would, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: somebody who was departed? M yeah, I mean I believe

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Speaker 1: And yeah, definitely would be all right with having loved

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Speaker 1: ets and uphos really are, John, Oh, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: So I would not be surprised at whatsoever if we're

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Speaker 1: being visited by extraterrestrials. It would not surprise me at all.

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Speaker 1: I have not come across anybody who's who's worked with that.

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Speaker 1: I've done some research and read a lot about at

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Speaker 1: night that's the real deal mating. Yeah, it does, and

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Speaker 1: with the government having used it, and you know the

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Speaker 1: hits that people are able to get. I believe I've

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Speaker 1: if they were taught that, but nobody who've who's actually

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Speaker 1: out of body experiences, anything there? Yeah, I have interviewed

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Speaker 1: known otherwise, if that makes sense. The weird stories for me,

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Speaker 1: are weird. Those are I really like those stories. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I find a lot of stories where you know, people

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Speaker 1: I and I try really hard to hunt those people

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Speaker 1: like that. Hitchhikers or phantom cars. They're freaky, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: They are. Yeah, it's it's kind of amazing some of

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Speaker 1: an individual who was visited by his grandmother who had passed,

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Speaker 1: Also a story of a gentleman who he had crashed

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Speaker 1: He said, I had, He said, I had a wonderful family,

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