WEBVTT - Finding Legitimacy With Aida Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 1>heads up here that there are mentions of suicide and

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<v Speaker 1>some explicit language, so be prepared. Thank you back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a cold autumn night and the streets of Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 3>New York City are bustling. I'm on my way to

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<v Speaker 3>meet comedian Ada Rodriguez at the Chelsea Music Hall. She

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<v Speaker 3>had the comedy show tonight. I've never seen her life before,

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<v Speaker 3>but I really enjoy her work because she really goes there,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when she talks about Latinos.

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<v Speaker 2>And I grew up going to the hair salon with

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<v Speaker 2>my grandmother every week, and every week they try to

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<v Speaker 2>blow dry the Dominican out of me because Latinos are racist.

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<v Speaker 2>They can be very racist. They're racist with others, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're racist with each.

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<v Speaker 3>Other too, Like Either's mom is Puerto Rican, her dad

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<v Speaker 3>is Dominican, and her stepfather is Cuban.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them think they're better than Haitians because they

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<v Speaker 2>speak Spanish right, and Cubans think they're better than the

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<v Speaker 2>Dominicans because they're a little lighter and they think they

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<v Speaker 2>speak better Spanish. And Puerto Ricans think they're better than

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<v Speaker 2>all of them because they're citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>Once they get to the venue, I meet Eithera, Hi, ayva,

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<v Speaker 3>It's so nice to meet you. Thank you for making time.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate it. She's headlining the venue and she

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<v Speaker 3>loves it.

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<v Speaker 2>I always get nervous. I'm exhausted, but I'm excited new material,

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<v Speaker 2>but very excited because there are not many Latinas in

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<v Speaker 2>stand up period, specifically the ones that get the opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>to headline. So I don't take this stuff lightly.

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<v Speaker 3>I Either takes the stage in front of a packed audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow me, Handa, how beautiful you are. I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 2>to see you. Wow. All right, let's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>From Vuduro Media and BrX, it's Latino USA.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Maria Josa.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, Comedian Aida Rodriguez on family and comedy, and how

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<v Speaker 1>she fuses both of these to heal our Latino USA

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<v Speaker 1>producer Ronaldo Lanos Junior recently met up with Aida Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 1>for a conversation, and he's going to pick up this

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<v Speaker 1>story from here.

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<v Speaker 3>Aida Rodriguez was born in Boston. Her first comedy gig

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<v Speaker 3>on stage was in the late two thousands, but her

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<v Speaker 3>breakthrough came later when she was a top ten finalist

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<v Speaker 3>on The Last Comic Standing in twenty fourteen. Here's Aia

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<v Speaker 3>talking on the show at the time about a moment

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<v Speaker 3>when her daughter told her that she had a bully.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, a bully that's called writes a passage. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna always have a bully. Right one day, a bully's

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<v Speaker 2>name is going to be taxes and Supervisor. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a bully. She's seventeen years old. I said. What

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<v Speaker 2>you have is a year to do something about it

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<v Speaker 2>before it's a felony. Yea you have.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty one, Either released an HBO Max comedy

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<v Speaker 3>special named Fighting Words. It's also part documentary to this journey.

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<v Speaker 2>I had an opportunity to go to the Dominican Republic

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<v Speaker 2>and meet my father for the first time. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny because we sat at a restaurant and every time

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<v Speaker 2>a woman walked in, he'd be like, that's your sister.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened a few times. He was so generous. He

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<v Speaker 2>gave us each our own mother's. He was like, Oprah,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a mother, You got a mother.

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<v Speaker 3>The special dives into some tough subjects like eye that's

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<v Speaker 3>upbringing without her father, being homeless, and how her family

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<v Speaker 3>helped her get through it all. At times, Ida's comedy

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<v Speaker 3>gets political. She addresses anti blackness in the Latino community

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<v Speaker 3>and fighting words.

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<v Speaker 2>I was dealing with this shit my whole life. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>My family was religious, anti abortion until I got pregnant

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<v Speaker 2>from a black dude. Then they became pro abortion in

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<v Speaker 2>the name of Jesus. They were like, He'll forgive you

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<v Speaker 2>too much truth for you to night, said Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>Just recently that published her memoir Legitimate Kid, which dives

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<v Speaker 3>even deeper into her personal life and some of the

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<v Speaker 3>subject matter of her comedy. We're going to hear Aida

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<v Speaker 3>read from and talk about why she decided to write

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<v Speaker 3>Legitimate Kid and how it's helped her heal. And Ida

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<v Speaker 3>also brings us moments from her recent comedy show in Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Aida Rodriguez. So my name is Iva Rodriguez. My

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<v Speaker 2>title is Queen of the Universe. I actually I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>stand up comedian. I'm a writer, I'm an actor now

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<v Speaker 2>an author, and I'm also a producer and a director.

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<v Speaker 2>So it sounds weird saying all of those things, but

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<v Speaker 2>we have to claim our space. So yeah, I'm all

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<v Speaker 2>of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Aida says she learn a lot about herself and her

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<v Speaker 3>comedy by writing her book.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything I Do is an homage to the people and

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<v Speaker 2>the community where I grew up. You know, a marginalized

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<v Speaker 2>community of Latinos Latine black people that are working class,

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<v Speaker 2>considered poor, but show up every day to work. And

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<v Speaker 2>I am one of those people. I stand on the

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<v Speaker 2>front lines for them because I do feel like some

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<v Speaker 2>people call me problematic, or they say that I say

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<v Speaker 2>things that are incendiary, and I do. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to push the buttons and to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also don't think it's cool to go leave

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<v Speaker 2>El Barrio, the hood, the neighborhood, and go get an

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<v Speaker 2>education and within the economics realm, and then come back

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<v Speaker 2>and weaponize that education against people who didn't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I find myself in this place where I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I need to stand up for that, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable calling it all out. I really lean forward towards progress.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really about that life when it comes to the people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from the immigrant to the black Latino to

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<v Speaker 2>the lgbtq IA person. I was raised by all of

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<v Speaker 2>those people. That's my whole family, and so I do

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<v Speaker 2>stand up for that. But I think it's important not

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<v Speaker 2>to let people who think it's cool to rock with

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<v Speaker 2>us when it's trendy to jump aboard and then jump

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<v Speaker 2>off when it's not cool anymore. When you talk about politics,

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<v Speaker 2>right wing and left wing people both do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that, I think there's just a lot of people who,

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<v Speaker 2>as black people, say they love our rhythm, but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't love our blues. And I think that's applicable to

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<v Speaker 2>people of color, that people think it's cool to be

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<v Speaker 2>Latino and call you spicy, and we love tacos and

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. But when it comes to like the

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<v Speaker 2>real movement and all of the stuff that is happening

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<v Speaker 2>underneath to all of us, the numbers get really small

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of people who are still standing with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi that says she wrote her book because she wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to tell her story and she didn't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>the punchline.

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically, when it comes to comedians, people see us like

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<v Speaker 2>as their personal gestures, their clowns. They don't realize that

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<v Speaker 2>it is an occupation. It is a profession and a skill,

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<v Speaker 2>and we employ that at our workplace, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very very hard job to do, which is why a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are afraid to do it. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to write a book since I was a little girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Writing has always been my therapy. My writing process started

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<v Speaker 2>a long time for this book because I had been

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<v Speaker 2>writing essays. You know, I write journal entries. The journal

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<v Speaker 2>entries either become essays or they become jokes, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they become both. I want you to understand what that

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<v Speaker 2>story is and at the same time, I want people

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<v Speaker 2>to understand how I mind my comedy and where it

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<v Speaker 2>comes from. And I went away. I went to a

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<v Speaker 2>rubo and I took my mother and my kids with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was so triggering because my mom was very

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<v Speaker 2>raw at that time. Was the first time she had

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<v Speaker 2>been out of the since she was a baby, and

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<v Speaker 2>she triggered me, and that is what led me to

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<v Speaker 2>like get a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Out during this process. I that reflected on her childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>My childhood was filled with trauma, and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of horrible things that happened, but there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of great things that happened and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that showed up for me. I used to think

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<v Speaker 2>of myself as Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, my grandmother is the good witch. My

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<v Speaker 2>mom is a bad witch because my grandmother never disciplined me.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom always did. And then my uncles were the Lion,

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<v Speaker 2>the tin man, and the scarecrow combined, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bunch of adventures. My grandmother was the

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<v Speaker 2>landlady of the building, so I would collect rents with her,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was hearing information like who was cheating on

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<v Speaker 2>who who? And I was around a lot of adults

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, and they felt very comfortable talking about

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<v Speaker 2>adult stuff around me and all the other kids. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just think I had a really interesting childhood. But

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<v Speaker 2>I still played a lot of cakeball, lived at the

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<v Speaker 2>truth row Man and the ice cream truck. I ran,

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<v Speaker 2>I climbed trees, I hung out with my little brothers

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<v Speaker 2>until they got old enough not to want to play

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<v Speaker 2>with me anymore. I was blessed. I had a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Some things happened, but bad things happened to everybody, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I've never just been one to think that, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it happened to me, trauma doesn't make you special, because

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<v Speaker 2>it happens to everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>In third grade, Either was called a bastard by a

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<v Speaker 3>little girl who had her father's last name, something that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have because Either had her mom's last name, not

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<v Speaker 3>her father's, and that moment became a theme in her book.

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<v Speaker 2>I was an innocent minding my own business when one

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<v Speaker 2>a rotten kid in my class named Beth, called me

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<v Speaker 2>a bastard. Beth was the first child that I described

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<v Speaker 2>as evil. All the kids laughed and taunted me, except

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<v Speaker 2>for Alvaro, my cute, chubby Cuban buddy. But Alvaro was

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<v Speaker 2>also kind, and he responded in my defense, no, she's

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<v Speaker 2>not a bastard. I am sure he didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the word meant either, since he barely knew English. Still,

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<v Speaker 2>it was as though someone saw me at the moment

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<v Speaker 2>and knew that I was feeling naked. I was eight

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<v Speaker 2>years old. When I became conscious of the absence of

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<v Speaker 2>my father in a real way, Beth made sure of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It set me off on this journey to find legitimacy.

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<v Speaker 2>I really learned a lot in my journey, and even

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<v Speaker 2>though I didn't have the words for it, but the

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<v Speaker 2>way patriarchy plays a role in placing the importance of

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<v Speaker 2>father versus motherhood and the way a child's life is shaped.

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<v Speaker 2>In my family, there was ma chismo and there was

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<v Speaker 2>all of this patriarchal framing where the people were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are doomed because your father isn't in your life,

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<v Speaker 2>and you heard that all the time. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it really impacted me in that way where I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doomed because I don't have my dad, and girls

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<v Speaker 2>that don't have their dad usually end up pregnant or

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<v Speaker 2>in jail, because that's the stuff that I would hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Those words really do affect you. Going on throughout my

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<v Speaker 2>life trying to understand why I was the kid that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have their own father and what that meant for

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<v Speaker 2>me in terms of my trajectory and where I would go,

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<v Speaker 2>but also where it made me feel vulnerable to the

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<v Speaker 2>world because I was taught that father meant protection, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I was thinking, like, compared to some of the

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<v Speaker 2>girls that I knew, who was going to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of me? And it just made me feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>was easy access to predatorial behavior, and I called it

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<v Speaker 2>into my life. It came out in my personal relationships

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<v Speaker 2>with friends, romantic, everything that I did. It kept showing

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<v Speaker 2>up because it really became a part of my identity,

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<v Speaker 2>and it manifested in ways that I had challenges having

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<v Speaker 2>this deficit in my life, which was I started looking

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<v Speaker 2>for that in my relationships and my romantic relationships, and

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<v Speaker 2>when someone made me feel protected, that was the way

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<v Speaker 2>in for me. I remember having a guy that liked

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<v Speaker 2>me and he would try to beat everybody up who

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<v Speaker 2>tried to do anything to me, and I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>think about how that could be harmful for him, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like, Oh, he really loves me, he

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<v Speaker 2>cares about me. I would gravitate towards that. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a pattern Either writes about in her book. The red

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<v Speaker 2>flax kept showing up and I kept ignoring them. Kept

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<v Speaker 2>his phone on silent, would always place it face down

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<v Speaker 2>so that I couldn't see the caller. ID He would

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<v Speaker 2>disappear at night after leaving my place and tell me

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<v Speaker 2>that he fell asleep the next day. I was willing

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<v Speaker 2>to overlook so much just to be with him. It

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<v Speaker 2>was real and mine, and at least I had someone

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea of what a healthy relationship was.

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<v Speaker 2>My grandmother was a woman who came from Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 2>in the fifties, who never had an opportunity to have

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<v Speaker 2>an education. She moved to America with her two children

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<v Speaker 2>and then have four more kids here. My grandmother was

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<v Speaker 2>a door to door saleswoman. She's probably the smartest person

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<v Speaker 2>I ever met in my life. And it was so

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<v Speaker 2>funny because she was illiterate, and her and my stepfather

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<v Speaker 2>would go back and forth, and he would point out

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<v Speaker 2>that she was illiterate, and she would always say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't read, but I can count, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>you broke.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>That's grandmother with a little rough around the edges. But

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<v Speaker 3>she was always there for Eida when it mattered.

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<v Speaker 2>She had come to rescue me. I just knew it.

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<v Speaker 2>I ran as fast as I could grabbed her and

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<v Speaker 2>never wanted to let her go. I would finally be

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<v Speaker 2>free from the horror that was that man. My grandmother

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<v Speaker 2>was here to take me home. I remember asking, are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to go get my mom? And my grandmother

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<v Speaker 2>quickly replied, she'll come later. I was so sad to

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<v Speaker 2>leave my mama, but I really couldn't take the struggle anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I had been cold, hungry, tired, and molested. It was

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<v Speaker 2>time for me to go. She's just my hero, so

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<v Speaker 2>much of my hero that when she got cancer. I

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<v Speaker 2>was angry with her when she got sick because I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't process the fact that she was weak. In my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, this is not okay. But she was

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<v Speaker 2>always there for me, my mom, who I thought was

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<v Speaker 2>my sister in real life. And it was really hard

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<v Speaker 2>growing up in a house with a mother that was

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<v Speaker 2>so young, and my mom was a very beautiful woman girl,

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<v Speaker 2>and to think about the fact that she was involved

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody that was so many years her senior and

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<v Speaker 2>moved out of the country with and had a child,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, that's human trafficking now when you

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<v Speaker 2>think about the things that they were dealing with at

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<v Speaker 2>that time that were normal or acceptable, because they weren't normal.

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<v Speaker 2>But my mom is one of the most spirited, fearless

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<v Speaker 2>people I've ever met in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Rai that says she considers her mama Queen and that

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<v Speaker 3>she has a lot of respect for her.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother's arrival was not the best. He was born

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<v Speaker 2>days after Kuriano beat our mother. He cheated on her,

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<v Speaker 2>and when she found out and confronted him, he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate her tone or questioning and decided to teacher a lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>He beat a nine months pregnant woman and left her

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<v Speaker 2>for dead in Central Park, and those people who many

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<v Speaker 2>saw as undesirables in society were the ones to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of her and deliver her to the nearest hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>saving both her and her baby's lives. To this very day,

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<v Speaker 2>she says never looked down on anyone. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>prostitutes and junkies that rescued us. I had to grow

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<v Speaker 2>up with her, so it was really hard, was painful,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes fun to have a very young mom that

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<v Speaker 2>would dance with you anywhere. That was the thing about her.

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<v Speaker 2>She was misinformed about discipline because she was hit with

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<v Speaker 2>an extension cord. She thought hitting us with the belt

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<v Speaker 2>was a step up. And so thank God for growth,

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<v Speaker 2>because now I've never hit my daughter or my son

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<v Speaker 2>and she's always been like good. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people don't know. My mom went back to school and

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<v Speaker 2>got her and then she went to a technical school

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<v Speaker 2>and became a pharmaceutical tech and she graduated from there

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<v Speaker 2>and she had the highest GPA in her class. She's really,

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<v Speaker 2>really smart. And in spite of all of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that have happened to her, and a lot of bad

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<v Speaker 2>things happened to her, she still fights. And she's my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite fighter. Mike Tyson ain't got nothing on my mama.

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<v Speaker 2>I cry when I watch movies about family, right like

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<v Speaker 2>we all cry when we saw Setlanta. Selena was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a biography, but it was also a story of family.

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<v Speaker 2>None of us are alone, as much as we'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to think that we are. We see that tour bus,

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<v Speaker 2>we see those people. I see movies like Soul Food

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<v Speaker 2>or La Familia, and they would make me cry, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had to sit down with myself and say, what

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<v Speaker 2>is it about this stuff that makes you feel this way?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you feel sad or why do you cry?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's because I realized that above all things, I

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<v Speaker 2>value family. And my children make fun of me because

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<v Speaker 2>I like to eat family style. So when we go

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<v Speaker 2>out to eat. They're like, oh, oh, we're gonna have to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, But I believe in con partiendo, like we

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<v Speaker 2>all eat together, we all taste. It's communion, community. It's

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<v Speaker 2>always been the center of it all. And it took

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<v Speaker 2>me a long time to discover to realize that that

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<v Speaker 2>was what was everything to me. And yes, my father

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't there, but there was a father there and it

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<v Speaker 2>might not have been the traditional father role, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was everything that I needed and then some.

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<v Speaker 3>It was later in life that Aida had a full

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<v Speaker 3>circle moment with her own daughter when it came to

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<v Speaker 3>their last name.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked my baby if she knew her name, and

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<v Speaker 2>she looked me in the eye and confidently said, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Kayla. Do you know your last name? Akayla?

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<v Speaker 2>What a Kayla Rodriguez, she said, looking me straight in

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes and punching me right in the face with

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<v Speaker 2>it no hesitation. She knew her name. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be Rodriguez like you, she said, I don't want daddy's

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<v Speaker 2>last name. So many emotions swept through me. I was

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<v Speaker 2>so confused and at the same time flattered. She was

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<v Speaker 2>proud of me and wanted to be like me. She

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even think about her father, and because he wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't know him enough to like him, let alone

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<v Speaker 2>carry his name. The way she saw it, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a privilege for her to claim me. What a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>perception to have at that young age. Damn, she was

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<v Speaker 2>my hero. Forgiveness is not a gift that you give

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<v Speaker 2>other people. Forgiveness is a form of self care, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of us hold on to forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that human error is inevitable. We all

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And one of the best things that I

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<v Speaker 2>did for myself was to forgive the people who hurt me.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean that I allowed them back into my life,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean that I am buddy buddy with them,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean that I even speak to them anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I did do was really come to terms

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<v Speaker 2>with understanding that forgiveness was me taking care of me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it released me from the chains and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the pain that I was holding on to. That

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<v Speaker 2>allowed me to move forward in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Before the show, Either told me that she feels like

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<v Speaker 3>she's in a new chapter of her life, and her

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<v Speaker 3>comedy and set Tonight reflects that.

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<v Speaker 5>Among the people are suffering from depression, and I want

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<v Speaker 5>you to know that I see you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have found about taking your wife.

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<v Speaker 5>If you are paddling, dad, please talk to somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, sare me regular somebody and don't go to people.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't tell people who are suffering from depression, who are

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<v Speaker 5>thinking about killing yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about your mother, right? What about your children? That

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<v Speaker 2>could very well be the reason a lot of them

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<v Speaker 2>people want to killing themselves. And there you go, agitating

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<v Speaker 2>the wom I want you to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>You are they that says she has struggled with depression

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<v Speaker 3>in her lifetime.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was gonna kill myself and I was gonna

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<v Speaker 5>take my children with me. And I drove to the

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<v Speaker 5>top of the cliff with my two kids in the

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<v Speaker 5>car and I was gonna drive off.

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<v Speaker 4>And my son said, I love you, mommy, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I can't drown him.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a good person. But if that would have just

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<v Speaker 2>been me and my daughter, I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd been here today.

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<v Speaker 3>If you or someone you know are struggling with thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>of suicide, contact the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at nine

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<v Speaker 3>eight eight. And just so you know, this book will

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<v Speaker 3>be available in Spanish in early March.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was produced by Rinaldo Lanos Junior and edited

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<v Speaker 2>I want to turn that off. See Chris, can you

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<v Speaker 2>turn this fan off? I don't want to mess with

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<v Speaker 2>one of this, so both of them, because this is audio,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, thank you so much. If you want that

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<v Speaker 2>one off too, if possible, yeah,