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Speaker 2: Latin Latino USA.

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Speaker 1: I'm Maria Inojosa. We bring you stories that are underreported

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Speaker 1: but that mattered to you, overlooked by the rest of

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Speaker 1: the media, and while the country is struggling to deal

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Speaker 1: with these, we listen to the stories of black and

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Speaker 1: Latino Studio United Latino Front, a cultural renaissance organizing at

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Speaker 1: the forefront of the movement. I'm Maria Ino JOSSA. Dear listener,

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Speaker 1: heads up here that there are mentions of suicide and

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Speaker 1: some explicit language, so be prepared. Thank you back.

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Speaker 3: It's a cold autumn night and the streets of Chelsea,

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Speaker 3: New York City are bustling. I'm on my way to

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Speaker 3: meet comedian Ada Rodriguez at the Chelsea Music Hall. She

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Speaker 3: had the comedy show tonight. I've never seen her life before,

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Speaker 3: but I really enjoy her work because she really goes there,

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Speaker 3: especially when she talks about Latinos.

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Speaker 2: And I grew up going to the hair salon with

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Speaker 2: my grandmother every week, and every week they try to

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Speaker 2: blow dry the Dominican out of me because Latinos are racist.

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Speaker 2: They can be very racist. They're racist with others, and

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Speaker 2: they're racist with each.

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Speaker 3: Other too, Like Either's mom is Puerto Rican, her dad

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Speaker 3: is Dominican, and her stepfather is Cuban.

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Speaker 2: Some of them think they're better than Haitians because they

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Speaker 2: speak Spanish right, and Cubans think they're better than the

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Speaker 2: Dominicans because they're a little lighter and they think they

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Speaker 2: speak better Spanish. And Puerto Ricans think they're better than

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Speaker 2: all of them because they're citizens.

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Speaker 3: Once they get to the venue, I meet Eithera, Hi, ayva,

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Speaker 3: It's so nice to meet you. Thank you for making time.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. She's headlining the venue and she

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Speaker 2: I always get nervous. I'm exhausted, but I'm excited new material,

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Speaker 2: but very excited because there are not many Latinas in

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Speaker 2: stand up period, specifically the ones that get the opportunities

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Speaker 2: to headline. So I don't take this stuff lightly.

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Speaker 3: I Either takes the stage in front of a packed audience.

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Speaker 2: Wow me, Handa, how beautiful you are. I'm so happy

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Speaker 2: to see you. Wow. All right, let's get started.

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Speaker 1: From Vuduro Media and BrX, it's Latino USA.

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Speaker 2: I'm Maria Josa.

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Speaker 1: Today, Comedian Aida Rodriguez on family and comedy, and how

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Speaker 1: she fuses both of these to heal our Latino USA

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Speaker 1: producer Ronaldo Lanos Junior recently met up with Aida Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: for a conversation, and he's going to pick up this

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Speaker 1: story from here.

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Speaker 3: Aida Rodriguez was born in Boston. Her first comedy gig

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Speaker 3: on stage was in the late two thousands, but her

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Speaker 3: breakthrough came later when she was a top ten finalist

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Speaker 3: on The Last Comic Standing in twenty fourteen. Here's Aia

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Speaker 3: talking on the show at the time about a moment

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Speaker 3: when her daughter told her that she had a bully.

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Speaker 2: I said, a bully that's called writes a passage. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna always have a bully. Right one day, a bully's

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Speaker 2: name is going to be taxes and Supervisor. You don't

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Speaker 2: have a bully. She's seventeen years old. I said. What

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Speaker 2: you have is a year to do something about it

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, Either released an HBO Max comedy

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Speaker 3: special named Fighting Words. It's also part documentary to this journey.

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Speaker 2: I had an opportunity to go to the Dominican Republic

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Speaker 2: and meet my father for the first time. And it's

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Speaker 2: funny because we sat at a restaurant and every time

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Speaker 2: It happened a few times. He was so generous. He

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Speaker 2: gave us each our own mother's. He was like, Oprah,

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Speaker 3: The special dives into some tough subjects like eye that's

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Speaker 3: upbringing without her father, being homeless, and how her family

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Speaker 3: helped her get through it all. At times, Ida's comedy

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Speaker 3: gets political. She addresses anti blackness in the Latino community

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Speaker 3: and fighting words.

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Speaker 2: I was dealing with this shit my whole life. Listen,

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Speaker 2: My family was religious, anti abortion until I got pregnant

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Speaker 2: the name of Jesus. They were like, He'll forgive you

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Speaker 2: too much truth for you to night, said Joe.

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Speaker 3: Just recently that published her memoir Legitimate Kid, which dives

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Speaker 3: read from and talk about why she decided to write

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Speaker 3: Legitimate Kid and how it's helped her heal. And Ida

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Speaker 3: also brings us moments from her recent comedy show in Chelsea.

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Speaker 2: Here's Aida Rodriguez. So my name is Iva Rodriguez. My

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Speaker 2: title is Queen of the Universe. I actually I'm a

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Speaker 2: So it sounds weird saying all of those things, but

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Speaker 3: Aida says she learn a lot about herself and her

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Speaker 2: Everything I Do is an homage to the people and

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Speaker 2: the community where I grew up. You know, a marginalized

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Speaker 2: community of Latinos Latine black people that are working class,

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Speaker 2: But I also don't think it's cool to go leave

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Speaker 2: I'm really about that life when it comes to the people,

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Speaker 2: right wing and left wing people both do it. But

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Speaker 2: wanting to write a book since I was a little girl.

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Speaker 2: Writing has always been my therapy. My writing process started

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Speaker 2: writing essays. You know, I write journal entries. The journal

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Speaker 3: Out during this process. I that reflected on her childhood.

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Speaker 2: My childhood was filled with trauma, and there was a

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Speaker 3: In third grade, Either was called a bastard by a

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Speaker 5: If you are paddling, dad, please talk to somebody.

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Speaker 5: And I was gonna kill myself and I was gonna

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