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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the teams. Drilled by Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is balling, Bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Slim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, pink skirt and nobody. Here's

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Speaker 1: Paul caldc There's always something you can learn about the

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Speaker 1: team you come. I did not know, for example, and

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Speaker 1: we could do a whole podcast and stuff I did

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Speaker 1: not know. PAULI podcast over here, Darren Herman, Danny Serect,

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Speaker 1: Did you two realize that James Connor had his last

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Speaker 1: name tattooed across the entirety of his bicep in big

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Speaker 1: block letters. By the way, yes, one arm says Connor,

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Speaker 1: the other says strong. Yes, I did not know that.

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Speaker 1: So he doesn't wear sleeves a lot, Paul, you really

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Speaker 1: should have noticed, but you know, but you have to

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Speaker 1: get up and flex to actually see the underside of

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Speaker 1: his bicep. But not, obviously not everyone can take your

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Speaker 1: last name in big block capital letters and put it

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Speaker 1: across your bicep. The only reason you don't is calvc's

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Speaker 1: just a little too long. No, I think it's because

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Speaker 1: he's got I Andy on his arm. Okay, where's the

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Speaker 1: funeral dirt? Well, it took thirty seven seconds for the

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Speaker 1: gloves to come off. Here we go, Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Other things that we've learned within moments of Cardinals Underground,

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Speaker 1: so on as Andy Isabelle is like so off this roster.

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Speaker 1: He's been released other moves. Cardinals assigned Billy Price on

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Speaker 1: the Raiders pract squad. Yes, he is a center. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into that a little bit. The kicker, Matt A. Mendola,

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Speaker 1: as reported, has been signed to the practice squad. I

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Speaker 1: thought everybody was supposed to be getting healthy Paul, and

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Speaker 1: they released the quarterback Jared Garantano from the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: As the maneuverings continue with the return of a couple

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Speaker 1: other players, or at least potential return I guess I

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Speaker 1: should say of the Antoine Wesley and Antonio Hamilton, who

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Speaker 1: else am I missing? There? There was a third Colt McCoy.

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Speaker 1: That is right? So okay, all right, where are we

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Speaker 1: gonna start? You brought it up? Go ahead, Darren, you

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Speaker 1: fill in the blank. Andy Isabella no longer in Arizona Cardinal.

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Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot of filling out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Should we be surprised a little bit though, a little

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Speaker 1: bit that it happens before the return of DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: There's still a little thin in the receiver room. But

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Speaker 1: the Carolina game. I didn't think that was in the

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Speaker 1: Moore because at this point Andy Isabella was playing outside

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Speaker 1: want Rondale Moore. I mean for me, but asked Dorge,

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Speaker 1: And I guess I mean for me. The Isabella thing

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Speaker 1: hearing the good stuff for getting on the room. Paul's yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna walk through because it's a Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, right now, how does that help them?

426
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Speaker 1: Now with these slow starts? How does that help them?

427
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: With the Eagles? How does it help them with a

428
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: crappy ass sorry Seattle defense, but knowing you're probably gonna

429
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Speaker 1: need to score a ton because apparently Geno Smith and

430
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson did the whole body swap thing, and now

431
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: Gino Smith is playing in Russell Wilson's body in Denver,

432
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Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson, a young Russell Wilson is playing as

433
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Speaker 1: Gino Smith in Seattle. I mean, if I'm going to

434
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Speaker 1: call him the last place Seahawks the entirety of the offseason,

435
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: I guess I gotta keep it fair. The Seahawks did

436
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: not punt that entire game against Detroit. You realize that

437
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: with Gino Smith they went touchdown, touchdown, fueld goal, touchdown,

438
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: miss field goal, touchdown, fuel goal, touchdown, end of the game,

439
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: forty eight points on the board. Who saw that coming

440
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: with Gino Smith? I just certainly not this guy. I

441
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Speaker 1: also need to say, real quick forty eight forty five

442
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: with score Gami. That blows me away. I cannot believe.

443
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,479
Speaker 1: I know it's high scoring, but I can't believe there

444
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: was never an NFL game ever the end. So, I mean,

445
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: there wasn't like a you know, olden days like the Chargers,

446
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: Eric Correol or something from the old days, right, something

447
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, that's olden days, just from like five

448
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: years ago. Well, what did we learn though? What did

449
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: you learn in this Carolina game? That all I don't

450
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 1: know that Cardinals come out and they rush at thirty

451
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Speaker 1: seven times Danny for a buck thirty two now ends

452
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: up being less than four yards of carry. Some of

453
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Speaker 1: that had to do with the kneel downs at the

454
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Speaker 1: very end. But James Conner, Eno, Benjamin Darryl Williams all

455
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: looked really good in their own right at different times.

456
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Speaker 1: I would say that the Cardinals in their last three

457
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Speaker 1: games have had the advantage when it comes to oh line.

458
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Speaker 1: If you're gonna do a tale of the tape, Cardinals

459
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: old line was definitely better than the Raiders old line,

460
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: definitely better than the rams o line, definitely better than

461
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Speaker 1: Carolina's old line. I thought that's advantage Arizona. The Eagles

462
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Speaker 1: old line. I don't know, maybe it's more of a push,

463
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Speaker 1: but especially the Eagles offensive line is pretty good, pretty

464
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Speaker 1: darn good. Okay, banged up, aren't isn't their tackle out? Yeah?

465
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: But the guy who came in to replace them played

466
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Speaker 1: really really well. Based on what I learned from Ron

467
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Speaker 1: Wolfley yesterday and the coaches show bas An onions that

468
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: the Eagles rush defense is not all that great. So

469
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Speaker 1: maybe you come out specially. Yeah, yet another week with

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Speaker 1: another reason to run the ball. So, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, props to him for taking a little dig

472
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Speaker 1: at Wolf at the end of the postgame radio interview.

473
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: That was solid right there. I should have given him

474
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Speaker 1: the mic just to drop it live on the air.

475
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: That would have been good because there was an excellent

476
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Speaker 1: walk off at Wolf's expense. But in this case, Danny,

477
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Speaker 1: I guess to answer your question in a really long,

478
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: roundabout fashion, maybe you do run the ball first and foremost,

479
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: because there's no doubt the Cardinals are losing the battle

480
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: of scripted plays right now. They're winning the battle of

481
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: halftime adjustments, losing the battle the first fifteen scripted plays.

482
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Speaker 1: And I think we got to see that when they

483
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Speaker 1: took the lead, the first time they've had a lead

484
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Speaker 1: all season in Carolina's the ability to them be a

485
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Speaker 1: little more balanced. Go back to the plays that you

486
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Speaker 1: have as opposed to playing from behind the entire game.

487
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Speaker 1: It will be interesting to sue moving forward how this

488
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Speaker 1: offensive line looks. Justin pu You're left guard who entered

489
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Speaker 1: the game questionable with an elbow injury, left the game,

490
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: I guess reaggravated that same elbow, and Cliff Kingsbury recently

491
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: said do you like that? Paul recently said that Pew

492
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: was going to be day to day at this point.

493
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Speaker 1: I mean, you lost Will Hernandez when he was ejected

494
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Speaker 1: for I guess bumping into the official when he was

495
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Speaker 1: trying to get to a Panthers player in the scuffle

496
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: when James Connor was front of the ground. But signing

497
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: Billy Price even if it's, you know, keep him on

498
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: the practice squad as regular roster has depth. If you're

499
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Speaker 1: going to go with Sean Harlow, it just makes you

500
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: wonder what's going to happen with Ronnie Hudson at center

501
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: if he's hurt, or Justin Pugh if he's gonna be

502
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: out for However, whoever knows how long. I mean, it

503
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: was still a ten ten game in Carolina when Will

504
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: Hernandez got objected, and I'll be honest with you. On

505
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 1: the sideline, I'm like, okay, you're two guards are now

506
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: Max Garcia and Sean Harlow gripping a little bit over there?

507
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: I got. I got the first two words, and I

508
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: like Will Hernandez a lot. I hope he didn't take

509
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Speaker 1: anything personally, or maybe he just didn't give a crimp

510
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: one pretty harsh in print. I said incredibly dumb, and

511
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: I still think it was, and I got a lot

512
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: of heat from fans saying you're stupid, You've never played sports,

513
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, which is not true. Darren plays basketball.

514
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: Save it for the mail bag. I have no problem

515
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: backing up your teammate. And if the game had been

516
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: out of hand either way, how at it go? Swing

517
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: your helmet, I don't care. You know what, it's ten ten,

518
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: You your kickers hurting, You don't know if you can

519
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: pull out a win here. Your offenses look very poor,

520
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: and you have a chance to be on the doorstep

521
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: of a touchdown. They've already thrown a flag, so you know,

522
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: it's against Carolina at this point. I mean, in that case,

523
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: you have to That's just how I feel about. Look again,

524
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: if they were down by twenty or up by twenty,

525
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. I don't care because at that

526
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: point it can be about the message you send. But

527
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm watching James Connor on the ground after he gets

528
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: thrown down and he looks back at the guy who

529
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Speaker 1: throw him down. He kind of SE's sitting up and

530
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: he kind of puts his arms up like what the hell, man?

531
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Speaker 1: But where's the flying? But the gesture to me said, Okay,

532
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm ereated, but I'm fine. Or do what

533
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: at the least do it? Calvin Beecham protected his teammate too,

534
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: But what he did he go chest to chess with

535
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: a guy and started yelling at him, but kept his

536
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: arms to the side and didn't do anything. So just

537
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: so I have completely understanding things that I don't know.

538
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: That James Connor bicep tattoo, which I was not quite

539
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: aware of. And then is it truly zero tolerance running

540
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: into an official because he kind of ran through the

541
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: back of the official. Getting the officials back was to

542
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez. Will Hernandez sort of ran through him to

543
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: get to Luvu or what it was. This guy's name Frankie.

544
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: I'll call him Frankie recently anyway, And so I didn't

545
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: quite realize, I mean, no touch rule on the officials

546
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Speaker 1: at all. And here is what really was interesting was

547
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: because they get and scrumbs all the time, they get

548
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: hit all the time with a you know, friendly fire. Well,

549
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what happened. I do know that

550
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: it was pretty clear that somebody in New York was

551
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: watching them. That's why I took so long, was because

552
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: somebody in New York was calling the officials on the

553
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: field saying, yeah, this guy needs to get ejected. I

554
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: think is part of it. Look, I don't argue with you.

555
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: And there's lots of fans who look at the video

556
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: and said, this panther hit this official too, and this

557
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: happened and might all be true. But all I can

558
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: think of is if you don't go run through the official,

559
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: they can't throw you out. Let's have a little accountability here.

560
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: That's just how I feel about it. I understand the

561
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: emotion of the moment, I get all of those things,

562
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: but this is a team that was one and two,

563
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: that was losing to a terrible or at that point

564
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: tied tied with a terrible Carolina team. You had to

565
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 1: have the win. You've been offline offense. You can't afford

566
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: penalties to back you up because you can't overcome it usually.

567
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's how I feel very strongly about that.

568
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: Even the dirtiest player in recent NFL history, Richie Incognito,

569
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: had football like you about when and where and how

570
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: he knew when to go ahead just to shut it

571
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: or stop it, and so he wouldn't draw the flag

572
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: and he would infuriate the opponent. So yeah, there's and

573
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Will Hernette has got it talking to by Sean Coogler

574
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: when he got to the sideline. And again, so I'm

575
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: glad he backed up, And I had a couple of

576
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: fans say I'm glad he did it, and they ended

577
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: up winning. Anyways, I'm like, yeah, but at the time

578
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: you didn't know. I mean, if they had gone backwards

579
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: and Matt Prador had been too hurt to kick at

580
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: that point, and he was pretty close to that. He

581
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: booted the field goal, thank goodness, But it was right

582
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: after that that he didn't kick anymore. Kick off ye

583
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: and if if if he hadn't been able to kick

584
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: that field goal, you come out of there with no points.

585
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, how bad is that? Speaking of angry birds,

586
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: and by the way, I think we should do something

587
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: with that here at AC Cardinals Incorporated. I don't know

588
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: why you're talking about Danny like that angry I mean

589
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: the whole Kyle brand thing on NFL Network angry runs.

590
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: Why don't we do something with angry birds. I don't

591
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: know exactly what. You guys can figure that out. I can't.

592
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: I can't game on your phone. I can't think of everything.

593
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: A little bit. When the kids were younger, I did, Yeah,

594
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: I used to, you know, but I'm gonna put I'm

595
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: gonna put. I'm gonna put Rondale Moore. I'm gonna put

596
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore into the whole angry bird thing right next

597
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: to Will Hernandez now for different reasons. Uh. You know,

598
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: so when we ask about how do you resolve this

599
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals offense? I think you got to figure out a

600
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: role for Rondale Moore. I know that's not next level analysis.

601
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: It just seems like the square peg into the round

602
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: hole right now, Rondale Moore and everything that we heard

603
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: about him getting downfield targets. He appeared to be the

604
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: horizontal guy all over again. Yeah, and he doesn't appear

605
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: to be the happiest camper based on how he met

606
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: the media last week, and just sort of yeah, I'm

607
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: just if you can come up with a solution or

608
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: resolution for Rondale Moore, I think that might go a

609
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: long way towards getting this offense and gear. I agree

610
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: with you, And if I'm remembering reading correctly, I don't

611
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: think that had to do with him being limited in

612
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: any fashion making his season date you coming off the

613
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. Didn't he play a significant amount of snaps

614
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: or was it like in the seventies, Yeah snaps? Yeah, Yeah,

615
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: I didn't have to do with him being limited, I

616
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't think, which is exactly my point. He just he

617
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: appears to be so now he's not exactly the most

618
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: jovial or you know a guy who's reserved. Yes, so

619
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: it can be a little tough to tell. But if

620
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: you can harness in on leash what appears to be

621
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: some serious frustration with Rondelle Moore right now and take

622
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: it out on secondaries and get him downfield and get

623
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: him that separation that might merit some targets. I'm just

624
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: saying I'd love to see a solution for that. I

625
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: don't know how this week's can ultimately play out, especially

626
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: with the return of Antoine Wesley. I don't know if

627
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: he'll even be a factor. I'm just thinking, when there

628
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: are things that can help this Cardinals offense, obviously Kyler

629
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: running the ball help this Cardinals offense. And is it

630
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: just me or is Cliff Kingsbury now going on the

631
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: record and actually espousing and being in favor of Kyler

632
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: running the ball more than we'd heard. He used to

633
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, play ride the fence on that.

634
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: So I don't, I don't, I don't know. I feel

635
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: you're I don't think you're wrong. I've grown tired of

636
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: trying to read those two guys with how Kyler runs

637
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: the ball or not, because I get it there's fatigue

638
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: on this topic. It's not just fatigue, it's it's fatigue

639
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: with trying to read between the lines with both of them,

640
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: or not read between the lines. I always have thought

641
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: at first, I thought at first it was Cliff always

642
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: wanted Kyler to run, but he wanted to defer to

643
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: Kyler because he knew Kyler wasn't always comfortable with it.

644
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: But you saw Kyler run all the time in college,

645
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: and that didn't make a lot of sense. Then Kyler

646
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: started talking about and he made very clear in the past,

647
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: my legs are a luxury. I'd rather not run. I'd

648
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: rather be known for being a pocket guy. It's not

649
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: an ass. Okay, that's why you're not running. I think

650
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: you should run. I think Cliff was disappointed he wouldn't run.

651
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: But you can't make the guy run when he's the

652
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: one with the ball. And if you call designed runs

653
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: then that doesn't go over real. Well, and guess what

654
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: he has now, quote free rain. He'll just check out

655
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: of it. And now it's like now Kyler is like, well,

656
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: whatever they want me to do, and I'm like, I

657
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: think they wanted you to do this all. It's just

658
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. But we saw in Carolina his

659
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: numbers weren't great even without the kneel downs. It's it's

660
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: nine rushes for twenty nine yards I think it was.

661
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: And his best run was called back because of a penalty.

662
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: But it impacts the defense. I mean, they looked like

663
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: they had sniffed it out in the first half, and

664
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: so I don't know if the Cardinals made some adjustments

665
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: with when and how Kyler ran. There was a play

666
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: where Kyler Murray kept the ball and dodged up field

667
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: between the guard and the tackle and went nowhere near

668
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: the sideline running the ball like ten yards now field.

669
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: He man to avoid a big hit yep, and I

670
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: haven't seen that in a long time. There was another

671
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: play where he came screaming to the Cardinal's sideline and

672
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: was deep in their own territory and he took a

673
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: big hit and I thought he was going down right

674
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: near the white stripe, and he stayed on his feet.

675
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: You're reminded of how stout he is. His lower body

676
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: is strong. Well. It's funny when we see him in

677
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: the press conferences now after games. Now Carolina was a

678
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: little different because he left his entire uniform on with

679
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: pads and everything, him and JJ. But most of the

680
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: time when he comes out these days, it's in his

681
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: football pants and his undershirt. And he I mean, he's

682
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: not super tall, but he is jacked, and he is sturdy,

683
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: great balance, good lower body, stays on his feet. If

684
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: a two hundred ninety pound guy runs into him, he's

685
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: gonna have problems. But but my point is that if

686
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: you take a poll of defensive coordinators every week they

687
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: play the Cardinals, the one thing that keeps them up

688
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: all night is Kyler getting loose. That's the thing they

689
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: really fear that they don't have an answer for. Even

690
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: Matt Rule told the media last week, going back to

691
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: the NC double a days when he's at Baylor and Temple,

692
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Matt Rules said, and I'm looking at the quote right here,

693
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: I saw Kyler do things in college that just made

694
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: me want to walk off the field. So when you

695
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: come into the game with twelve rushing attempts through three games,

696
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: and you end the game with twelve rushing attempts, three

697
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: were kneel downs, it tends to represent a change in

698
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: attitude or philosophy, or game planning or decision making by Kyler.

699
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: And you can account you can count me among those

700
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: who are saying more police. Yeah, let's see more of that,

701
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: especially against an Eagle's defense that might be smelling itself

702
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. I mean, look, Kyler Murray is not

703
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: the only quarterback. Teams around the league are having to

704
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: defend against that has the accuracy and the strength. It's

705
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: his ability to scramble an extent plays that really makes

706
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: him that much more of a threat. I'm wondering though,

707
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: of you know, we've seen Kyler really bring out those

708
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: legs when this team has been in the process of

709
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: coming back. So if if the Cardinals can find a

710
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: way to get a fast start offensively and take and

711
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: hold a lead, I don't think we're going to see

712
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: him run. I mean, I'm not sure that would necessarily change.

713
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: I know at halftime, and Drew stant has said this before,

714
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: but on the radio side, Drew stan said he particularly

715
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: loves Kyler running in the red zone. That's really effective. Well, again,

716
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: when you've got such tight space in terms of throwing

717
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: the ball, you can't you don't always you can't always

718
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: account for the quarterback running down there. That's why it's

719
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: so effective. It's so dangerous, and we saw it against

720
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Right when there's a short path to the pylon.

721
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: Kyler's got that quick burst. Guess what, He's going to

722
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: beat your dB to the pylon most of the time.

723
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, it can be really effective. I just you know,

724
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: I guess the question becomes do you need Kyler to run? Dot?

725
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: Dot dot? Here's the new form of this question, because

726
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: it's been the same question every year. The new form

727
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: of the question at this point, at this moment is

728
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: do you need Kyler to run to maximize this Cardinals offense?

729
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: And I would say yes, yes, I think, especially right

730
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: now now, I think when you start to get some

731
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: players back, you get Antoine Wesley back from ir you

732
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: get DeAndre Hopkins back. I don't know how much that

733
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: might change things. Aj Green coming back from his knee injury,

734
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: if maybe they start to find their groove a little more,

735
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: if they can start to string along some wins. But

736
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: I think right now, my answer to your question is yes.

737
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: I think. I think with James Connor in the backfield,

738
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: I think he's really good in short yardage, and I

739
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: think he's really good in goal line situations. But if

740
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: he's your main running back out in the middle of

741
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: the field, I think you need the threat of Kyler

742
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: Murray potentially running the ball to make him a little

743
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: bit more effective in the ring game. So, I mean,

744
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: look at this team that's coming in, right I mean,

745
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: look at this Eagles offense right now, Look at a

746
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders, who had the best game of his career

747
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: of courses in the rain, and they emphasized the run

748
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: as they came back and they beat the Jags. Eagles

749
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: did twenty nine one in Miles centers at twenty seven

750
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: carries for a buck thirty four and two touchdowns. You

751
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: know you had Gellen Hurts throwing a pick six early.

752
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: They're able to get away with that because the Philadelphia

753
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: defense had five takeaways, as we said, but they have

754
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: two really good receivers and a J. Brown and Navante Smith.

755
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: They have the run game, they have the running quarterback

756
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: who's also thrown for over eleven hundred yards through four games.

757
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: How equipped is this Cardinals defense, Darren, You think right

758
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: now for this test, considering how bad Baker was, it's

759
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: going to be a huge difference in terms of offensive

760
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: firepower and offensive execution because Baker was bad. If I

761
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: recall correctly, Jalen Hurts played pretty well against the Cardinals

762
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty when he was inexperienced, So I mean, yes, yes,

763
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: he did. I think I think this is going to

764
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: be very difficult to slow them down. And this is

765
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: why I think the offense it's so important for this

766
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense to play well this week because I think,

767
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think twenty points is winning this game.

768
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: So you're going to have to put some points on

769
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: the board to somehow get a win. And the Eagles

770
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: have historically not done well in Arizona. I'd have to look,

771
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: but I when was the last time they won an

772
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: Arizona two thousand and one? Maybe, yeah, it's been all now.

773
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: They haven't played a ton of a ton of times.

774
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I mean, Darren, I don't want to

775
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: be the Debbie downer. The Cardinals haven't looked good in Arizona. Well,

776
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: see here, I have a theory on that, Danny, is

777
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: that I'm pretty sure there's going to be a ton

778
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: of Eagles fans here and if it feels like a

779
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: little bit like a road games, really well on the road,

780
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: that is sad. I mean, they don't lose on the road.

781
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: So well, here's the barometer. If you have to go

782
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: into a silent count in your own stadium, then you

783
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: are playing a road game. So we'll see if that happens.

784
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: We'll see if the Cardinals, that's the question. You need

785
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: to go around the locker room with are you practicing

786
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: this silent count this week? Because I'm not doing that.

787
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: You're looking at me. I'm not doing that. It could

788
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: be a sideline exchange. Boom. Whoever your guest is, you

789
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: gotta ask you know what. I don't think you actually

790
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: followed through on putting the power rankings taping it up

791
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: in the locker room last week, So maybe you should

792
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 1: do that Paul this week. Oh hello, hello, I better

793
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: move it along. So anyway, yeah, Danny remembers all the

794
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: Eagles fans that you figured we'll be in attendance. We'll

795
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: see how that goes. Maybe, you know, maybe it triggers

796
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in some way, like they are on the

797
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: road and there's a mouthy fan behind the bench and

798
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. I don't know. All I know

799
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: is that, um, you know, defense definitely looked better. It's

800
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: it's definitely sound it look Would they have lost the

801
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: opener against Kansas City either way? Yeah, I think we

802
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: can all agree on that. But they were not alignment

803
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: and assignment sound. It was just a communication was so bad.

804
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: So I think they figured Evan Shows was at least

805
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: figured out the roles, and I don't know if did

806
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: you guys see this as an honest question, what was

807
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: the blitz percentage against Carolina? It didn't appear or seem

808
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: like they blitzed nearly as much as they had the

809
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: first three weeks. I don't know the blitz number on that.

810
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: I do think it'll be interesting of kind of what

811
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: I touched on the beginning of Yeah, the defense had

812
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: a great game. You weren't playing a great team. You

813
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: were playing a quarterback in Baker Mayfield, who's not the

814
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: most mobile, likes to hold onto the ball. And it's

815
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: going to be very different going up against Jalen Hurts,

816
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: who's rushed for twenty or more yards every game. He

817
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: had ninety the first week. I think the other two

818
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: games were upwards of forty five or fifty five yards.

819
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: He's used his legs on This is going to be

820
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: a very different test than what this defense is coming

821
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: off of last week. I do still think that is

822
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: important realizing you can put together that type of performance,

823
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: that kind of confidence. You're having playmakers who are not

824
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: named JJ Watt impact the game significantly, which I think

825
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: is a big deal as well. But this Eagles team

826
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: is going to be very different than this Panthers team

827
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: the win that they're coming off of. For the defense,

828
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: I think about the Eagles. Not only are the only

829
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: undefeated team at four, no, they lead the NFL and

830
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: turnover ratio, although the Cardinals are number three in turnover ratio,

831
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: so these are the top two teams, two of the

832
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 1: top teams in that category. Here's the thing. The Cars

833
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: are last in the NFL and sacks with only four.

834
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: The Eagles are first was sixteen, So they have gotten

835
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 1: to the quarterback once. It seems like a lot, Paul,

836
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is when you look at look

837
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: nobody else's Patrick Mahomes. I understand that every quarterback has

838
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: been different, but getting to Baker Mayfield was very different

839
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: than how they're going to have to get to Jalen

840
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: Hurts and his ability to move and get the ball

841
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: out much quicker. So what kind of pass rush are

842
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: the Cardinals going to be able to generate this week?

843
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: All right, So here's here's the question you do ask, then, Danny,

844
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: since you're styming me on the earlier one, you walk around,

845
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: you ask practicing against a quarterback every day like a

846
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray with elite athleticism, like a jail and Hurts.

847
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: How much does that help the Cardinals defense for this matchup?

848
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: I would think absolutely. I think absolutely that helps one

849
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: Oklahoma sooner to another. I would think that helps going

850
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: up against Kyla Murray and practice every day. I don't know.

851
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: I feel like they both are very mobile, obviously, but

852
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: I feel like they're different kinds of I mean, Kyler's

853
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: kind of squirrely all back there, and I just feel

854
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: like Jalen Hurts feels more like a Cam Newton esque,

855
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: like with a better, more accuracy, better arm where, um,

856
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have a tough time bringing him

857
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: down because he's so big and he squats eight thousand

858
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: million pounds. It's a lot. I saw that on the

859
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: Manning Cast on the Monday and Football. They showed that

860
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: video from right, six hundred pounds squat by Jalen Hurts.

861
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: My back hurts, just no joke. And I don't believe

862
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: in curses, Darren, But isn't it when when players go

863
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: on the Manning Cast that I think I saw it's

864
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: like one in eight or something their game the final week.

865
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Do you believe in that kind of curse? Wow, it's

866
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: the new SI cover curse. Is that what you're saying.

867
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: I don't believe in the curse. I'll take it. I'll

868
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: take it if somebody wants to. If it gets in

869
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts his head, that's fine with me. I didn't

870
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: realize he was besties with Peyton Manning. I guess Peyton

871
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: Manning had been somewhat of a mentor for Jalen Hurts

872
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: over the they were talking all these quarterbacks in the

873
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: league went to Passing Academy at some point. Yeah, you're right,

874
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: so I wasn't. Actually I was in the locker room

875
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 1: doing interviews. You guys are in the press this room,

876
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: and that was the place to be for JJ Watt.

877
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: Actually it was Darren. Okay, I was in the locker room.

878
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: Okay for uh scrums. We've seen the video, but I

879
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: mean kind of give us the temperature of the room

880
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: and what that was like when JJ got up in

881
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: front of the podium and eventually got very emotional for

882
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: a good reason. Yeah, the whole day was really weird. Paul,

883
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: and you guys both know this. I mean, you're you're

884
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: sitting there right before you know, about forty five minutes

885
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: before Danny and I were going to do our initial

886
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: hour of the pregame radio before you do your two hours.

887
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: That's when jj Wat originally tweeted it out. I didn't

888
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: know anything about it. I saw pop up. I'm like,

889
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: holy crap, So you weren't the guy who was about

890
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: to report and the noka and UH wrote my story

891
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: and you talk about it. But I mean, by the

892
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: from the time he tweeted it till the time he

893
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: talked about it, there was like seven or eight hours

894
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: to go by, and Uh. He came in full uniform,

895
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: was talking low enough and we were are enough back

896
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: then it was almost hard to hear him at first.

897
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: He wasn't upset at that point. He was just quiet.

898
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: And I wasn't sure how much he was going to

899
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: say because the first question was, well, explain exactly what's

900
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: going on, what happened? And he was kind of hesitant

901
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: at first, and then he opened up. But the question

902
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: that got him was the one at one point he

903
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: was asked, you know, when is your child do and

904
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: he's like a few weeks and he goes that also

905
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: had he already talked about going through all this, And

906
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: the question was that also had to be on your mind?

907
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: And he said a couple of things, and then there

908
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: were big, long pauses as he really fought the tears.

909
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: He never quite completely broke down. You've seen this a

910
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: million times when you get up there and you're you're

911
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: trying to fight the tears, and you know if you

912
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: open your mouth to talk, it's over. So he was

913
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: trying to avoid that and eventually got back to football

914
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: where he could kind of adjust himself. But yeah, it

915
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: was clearly super emotional with going through the AFIB last week,

916
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: and as he said, he goes, I've and I'm paraphrasing,

917
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 1: but you know I've I've had a bunch of surgeries,

918
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: I've been hurt many times, I've had had to have anesthesia,

919
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: I've been in pain. I've never been scared of any

920
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: of that. And yet when they put me under to

921
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: tell me that they were going to shock my heart,

922
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: I was scared. And the other part that really stuck

923
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: with me was, especially after the TA stuff with a concussion,

924
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: was the part where he said I was assured by

925
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: multiple doctors I could play. I thought, and he admitted

926
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: he thought about not playing, but ultimately he wanted to

927
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: play because that's what he does, and he couldn't think otherwise,

928
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: and why he could have sat on his couch. He

929
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: just said it would have been uncomfortable home sitting on

930
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: his couch when they when he told him, he probably

931
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: when he told me could play, and he said that

932
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: you can say that's and I like this part he

933
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: said you can. I don't know if that's right or wrong,

934
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm messed up, but that's basically how I felt.

935
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean, when you know the doctors, according to JJ

936
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: told him you're fine. If you feel comfortable, you can play.

937
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's a huge leap. That's a huge

938
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: leap when three days earlier from game day your heart

939
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: was shocked to get back into rhythm. So you can

940
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: understand everything involved in there. I'll just tell you this much.

941
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: Down to the sideline, the vibe I got because the

942
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: energy on defense was by far the best all season long.

943
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of guys looked at ninety

944
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: nine and said, you know what, if he's playing, I

945
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: can play four quarters. If this guy suited up and

946
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: he's going and he played the majority of the snaps,

947
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: least I can do is bring a hundred plus for

948
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: four quarters. And I think it did trickle down onto

949
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: that sideline. The energy was palpable on that defense for

950
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: the first time this season other than late going against

951
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: the Raiders when they came out of the locker room

952
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: pretty amped up. But right from the get go of

953
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 1: the Cardinals defense was ready to play. And you can't

954
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: tell me they didn't have a lot to do with

955
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: everybody knowing what JJ had just been through. We've heard

956
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: since JJ got here the power he has not just

957
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: on the field, but as a leader and elevating those

958
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: around him. And obviously this has not been a situation

959
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: that he's dealt with in the past, and you know

960
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: they haven't been alluding to that when his teammates and

961
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: the coaching staff has said how JJ leads this team

962
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: and leads by example. But absolutely I think seeing him

963
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: out there playing as hard as he plays every down

964
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: to his motivation and also the fact that JJ Watt

965
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: is that motivation, that leader, that spark every week of

966
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: maybe the players thinking, you know what, maybe this week

967
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: we got to bring a little more and give that

968
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: to him this time. So for everyone griping and grousing

969
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 1: in the mail bag this week, you know, keeping her perspective, Okay,

970
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: think of what JJ Watt just dealt with and what

971
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: he to get back out on that field, Which is

972
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: my segue into the mail bag this week, Darren. By

973
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: the way, you know, I mean give us, give us

974
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: a little update year, you know, I mean, what is

975
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: the topic du jour this week from fans? What do

976
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: they want to know? I did have one guy who

977
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: mentioned that he listens to the podcast and thank you.

978
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: He was asking about execution and when all these players

979
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: and coaches talk about needing to execute better, whose fault

980
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: is that? Like, are we talking about players, are we

981
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: talking about coaches? And he wanted us to expound on that,

982
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: and I, for me, you don't know. I mean, execution

983
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: can mean a lot of different things. It can mean

984
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: a players not running the right pass route, but it

985
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: also could mean the coaches aren't getting the play on

986
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: time or they're calling the wrong play. I mean, to me,

987
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: execution is there's a lot involved in saying we're not executing.

988
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: To me, I agree. I also do think it's important that,

989
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: like the coaching staff is an out of the field

990
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: at some point that that speaker goes off and it's

991
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: up to the players to make the play. So I'm

992
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: not saying it if there's mistakes are in terms of

993
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: questioning execution, that's all on the players. Absolutely. The coaching

994
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: staff does play a role in that. I think execution

995
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: pretty much every time, at least to a certain degree,

996
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: is always more on the players because they're the ones

997
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: out on the field. I would agree with that, And yeah,

998
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: it can be you know, it could be a drop pass,

999
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: it could be a miss block, it could be a

1000
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: mental error, missus simon, it could be any and all

1001
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: of the above. Most of the time I would say, yeah,

1002
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: it's it just speaks to the caliber of play or

1003
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: lack thereof, as opposed to the coaching. Sometimes, you know,

1004
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: Cliff and company might be guilty of getting the play

1005
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: in late. I will say though, that in this last

1006
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: game where they had issues, a lot of it wasn't

1007
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: from the play caller or the coaches. There were certain

1008
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: players maybe didn't know what package they were in, or

1009
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: maybe when they got out to the huddle broke the

1010
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: huddle and didn't know what their assignment was. And there

1011
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: were a couple of guys who were repeat offenders who

1012
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: I won't name unless the coach does, but he's protecting

1013
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: some of the guilty I can tell you that much.

1014
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: So they got to get that ironed out. They really

1015
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: need to get that ironed out, because that's the kind

1016
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: of stuff that happens in August in preseason games when

1017
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: guys don't know what packages or what the play is,

1018
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: and then you're taking that much more second, you know,

1019
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: time off the play clock to have a personal one

1020
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: on one with a guy as to what is assignment

1021
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: is on that play. So you know, I actually I

1022
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: think if that continues, A, it's inexcusable at this level.

1023
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: And B I think clip might start naming names if

1024
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: you don't clean that up. That's my little mini rant

1025
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: on this one from your sideline reporter there. So, by

1026
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: the way, here is my one game question and this

1027
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: is a legitimate question, and then we'll wrap up this

1028
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Underground. If Vance Joseph has done an

1029
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: excellent job of the last three weeks of taking away

1030
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: the team's best weapon, whether it's Davante Adams, Cooper Cup

1031
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: to a certain degree, even though he had the twenty

1032
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: yard jet sweep touchdown run okay, and then of course

1033
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: this last week Christian McCaffrey non factor. Who is that

1034
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: guy for the Eagles, isn't Miles Sanders. Is it a

1035
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: j Brown DeVante Smith who's had some ridiculous catches a

1036
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: lot of product action. Is it just strictly Jalen Hurts,

1037
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: But you can go in any game trying to defuse

1038
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback. What do you think, what's the philosophy? Who's

1039
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: who's the guy that's a top the vance Joseph Coaching

1040
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: grease board this week. That's a good question. I think

1041
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: if you were to ask Vans, his answer is always

1042
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: first and foremost stopped the run, So we'd probably immediately

1043
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: go to Miles Sanders. But you're right, they have some

1044
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: receiving weapons and this secondary is really going to have

1045
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: to make sure they are on their a game. It'll

1046
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: be interesting to see if cornerback Antonio Hamilton, who will

1047
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: he's now able to come back in practice and then

1048
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: he'll have to be put on the roster if he's

1049
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: ready and he's able physically to do that. My guess

1050
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: is no, just because he's missed so much time and

1051
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: that's a position where you've got to be in the

1052
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: right shape in my opinion, to to get a lot

1053
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: of playing time. It'll be interesting to see. I mean,

1054
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: Jim O Mohandro gave us the stats and it ended

1055
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: up being that that twenty twenty game when Jalen Hurts played,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals won thirty three twenty six, Cardinals got sixteen first

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Speaker 1: quarter points. Wow, that would be something. Yep um Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray threw for four hundred and six yards that day,

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Speaker 1: which is amazing. DeAndre Hopkins on nine catches one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty nine yards. Larry Fitzgerald scored the last touchdown

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Speaker 1: of his NFL career assuming he's retired. What do you know,

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Speaker 1: Darren uh? Jalen Hurts ended up throwing for three hundred

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Speaker 1: thirty eight yards and three touchdowns and I don't think

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Speaker 1: he had any picks that day. Wow, And that was

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Speaker 1: in his second start. I was gonna say, Okay, there

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Speaker 1: you go. That's yeah, because I remember, you know, I

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Speaker 1: mean the Cardinals run into that at times. Cam Newton's

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Speaker 1: very first start, Russell wells Us, I mean they run

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00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: into that a few times. And even Matt Leiner his

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Speaker 1: few first few starts back as a Cardinals rookie at

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Speaker 1: the four hundred yard passing game against the Micah the

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Speaker 1: Monday night Meltdown, and he was really great the first

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Speaker 1: half so sometimes you know, you don't know what you

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Speaker 1: don't know, and you just go out there and you

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Speaker 1: play and it can be very productive. And there was

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Speaker 1: not a lot of film out there on you as

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Speaker 1: to what takeaway from defensive coordinators you can as sell.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see excel on that one. But yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, what I enjoyed the most about that

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Speaker 1: Carolina win was just the booze coming down from the

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Speaker 1: Panthers fans. You know, I got a text from someone

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Speaker 1: in our department who was watching the game at her

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Speaker 1: apartment here, and she texted me and said, am I

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Speaker 1: hearing correctly on the TV that they're booing Baker on

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Speaker 1: every play? Repeatedly? Yes, and deservedly. There we're booing Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: It reminded me of the Cardinals win last year in Seattle,

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00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: when the Twelves in the fourth quarters started unloading on

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and the Seahawks. Never heard that before in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: never heard the twelves booing the home team. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think that that was the beginning in the end in

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00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, I think that's why Russell Wilson

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00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: wanted to get into Gino Smith's body. Right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So by the way, Atlanta, here's one for you. Atlanta

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00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: ran at fourteen times in a row in this last game.

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Speaker 1: So you know what if the Cardinals come out and

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00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: that's what it takes, you know, that's what it takes

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Speaker 1: come out there, and if that's the liability for the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: So Paula got little something before we close out. Though, okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. We do have to give props, as

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Speaker 1: much as it might pain me on this Cardinals Underground podcast,

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Speaker 1: we do have to give props to our very own

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Speaker 1: Darren Urban Emmy Award winning for the Folk Tales he

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Speaker 1: worked on with Tim Delaney, one of the many Emmy

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Speaker 1: winners in our department. For folk Tales, the series that

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Speaker 1: started last season, giving exclusive behind the scenes look at

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Speaker 1: all different kinds of stories throughout the history of the organization,

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Speaker 1: not just players and games, but all different kinds of

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Speaker 1: unique stories as well. Season two has started. But your

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Speaker 1: folk Tales, which was thank you, Coach, Yeah, thanks coach,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Coach. The Monday and meltdown one yes, actually speech

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Speaker 1: speech no speech, no speech. Although I do appreciate the props,

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Speaker 1: I would say go to our YouTube page and please

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Speaker 1: check out all the folk tales because they're still up there,

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Speaker 1: and not just my episode, but all the episodes that

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Speaker 1: everybody worked on very hard. And actually the first episode

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Speaker 1: of this he's in Danny worked on, which was hyphen

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Speaker 1: Wins a House. We've got the second one coming out

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Speaker 1: next week, which is a Drew the Stanton Shuffle on

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Speaker 1: Drew Stanton's dance in aforementioned Seattle. So and there's also

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Speaker 1: the podcast that Paul does with Jim and Jundra, the articles.

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Speaker 1: There's all different ways to consume folk tales. I will say,

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Speaker 1: nobody worry. When we were out in Charlotte, I did

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Speaker 1: with my own eyes watched Darren celebrate. I looked at

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Speaker 1: him and I said, oh, all the times you and

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Speaker 1: Paul bring up me going out on the road on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I can't wait to turn the tables. And

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Speaker 1: he said, as long as you say was Emmy Award

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Speaker 1: winning Darren urban celebrating, then it's fine. I love how

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Speaker 1: she just doesn't say how to drink in his hand. Well,

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Speaker 1: it would have been a home game. He would have

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Speaker 1: been in attendance at the Mmy ceremony on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: So my wife was actually disappointed. As exactly. You're right,

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Speaker 1: because it's a it's a big shind it's a good

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Speaker 1: night out. No, right, that's great, congratulations, and you know

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Speaker 1: what we end on a win. I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen here in week five?

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Speaker 1: We end Cardinals Underground week Week five will be Irondelle. Ohiaiah?

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Speaker 1: Now was that was that right? He couldn't just walk

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Speaker 1: off into the sunset keeping it positively? We didn't even

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Speaker 1: talk about Isaiah and then play. You know, there's only

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Speaker 1: one at a time. So now that I Andy is

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Speaker 1: no Moss, then I'm going to shuffle in Isaiah especially.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't really do it when he's only getting fifteen

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Speaker 1: snaps a game, but now they got eighty plus percent

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Speaker 1: of the snaps. Then booms, Isaiah rides effective here in

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Speaker 1: week five, as we'll go with that here on Cardinals Underground,

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