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Speaker 1: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to this next episode of The

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Speaker 1: Lancewollno Show. And you know's we're coming into this hectic

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Speaker 1: political season. Eclipses happening, bridges collapsing, lightning striking the Statue

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Speaker 1: of Liberty. And then we have Mercedes Sparks right over

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Speaker 1: here joining me on the show. And today I have

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Speaker 1: a special joy because you know, I get to do

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Speaker 1: these news programs like Flashpoint with my friends, but today

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Speaker 1: I get to interview one of them and bring them on,

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Speaker 1: and that's always going to be a special joy. I

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Speaker 1: want you to meet Rick Green, those of you that

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Speaker 1: probably remember him from Flashpoint if you don't, Rick Green

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Speaker 1: is a former Texas state representative. He's a speaker, and

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Speaker 1: he heads up the ever expanding Patriot Academy. And so Rick, welcome.

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Speaker 1: How many people do you have learning about the Constitution

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Speaker 1: in the Patriot Academy right now?

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's good to see you, Maam Mercedes. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for having me. You know, it's hard to say about

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Speaker 2: a million. Have I've been through one of our costumes

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Speaker 2: from classes, we got twenty eight thousand coaches that are

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Speaker 2: out there hosting them in their living rooms or at

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Speaker 2: their churches. You know, sometimes it's three or four people

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Speaker 2: sitting around studying together. Sometimes it's three or four hundred.

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Speaker 2: But it's really cool, man. There's a lot of interest

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Speaker 2: in the things that you and I have been talking

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Speaker 2: about for decades. The window of opportunity right now, with

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Speaker 2: all the bad stuff going on, for us to convert

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Speaker 2: millions of people to the principles of biblical liberty. It's huge, man,

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Speaker 2: We've got a great opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I really do think it's not a mistake to say

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Speaker 1: that America is having an awakening in the sense of

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Speaker 1: its waking up. There's a large part of this country

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Speaker 1: that are looking at what's happening. I mean, and I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing it. I always bring these guys in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's the Joe Rogans and the Elon Musks. They're to

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Speaker 1: me like the bubble in the middle of where America's

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Speaker 1: real conversation is as certainly as an MSNBC and CNN.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are ideologues. I mean, they're they're like the

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Speaker 1: Marxist professor on the campus. They're not going to change

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Speaker 1: because of the current events. But there is a movement happening,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it is just people asking questions

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Speaker 1: like this isn't good? Is it? Like? For instance, I

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Speaker 1: want to jump in on this story real fast, and

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Speaker 1: it's the Elon Musk story. Rick, I want to get

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Speaker 1: your take on it. Play the SoundBite for this guy

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Speaker 1: who is not a conservative. He's just a journalist and

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Speaker 1: he's observing what's happening with Brazil because Brazil is kind

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Speaker 1: of like little America in the same way that Colorado

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Speaker 1: is a little California. It's the evidence of where the

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Speaker 1: left wants to take the United States. Play that sound bite.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everyone, it's Mike Schellenberger and I'm reporting to at

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Speaker 3: this moment from Brazil, where a dramatic series of events

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Speaker 3: are underway. At five fifty two pm Eastern Time today,

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Speaker 3: April six, twenty twenty four, X Corporation, formerly known as Twitter,

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Speaker 3: announced that a Brazilian court had forced it to quote

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Speaker 3: block certain popular accounts in Brazil. Then, less than one

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Speaker 3: hour later, the owner of X Elon Musk announced that

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Speaker 3: X would defy the court's order and all restrictions. As

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Speaker 3: a result, to the Musk, we will probably lose all

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Speaker 3: revenue in Brazil and have to shut down our office there.

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Speaker 3: The principles matter more than profit. He added, at any moment,

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Speaker 3: brazil Supreme Court could shut off all access to ex

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Speaker 3: Twitter for the people of Brazil. It is not an

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Speaker 3: exaggeration to say that Brazil is on the brink of

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Speaker 3: dictatorship at the hands of a tutulitarian Supreme Court justice

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Speaker 3: named ale Chandra Jimode. President Lula de Silva is also

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Speaker 3: participating in this push towards the tulitarianism. Since taking office,

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Speaker 3: Lula has massively increased government funding of the mainstream corporate

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Speaker 3: news media, most of which are encouraging increased censorship. What

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Speaker 3: Lula and Jimodice are doing is an outrageous violation of

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Speaker 3: Brazil's constitution as well as the United Nations Declaration of

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Speaker 3: Human Rights. Three days ago, I arrived in Brazil and

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Speaker 3: published the Twitter files for Brazil. They show that Jimode

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Speaker 3: has violated the Brazilian constitution in multiple ways. He illegally

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Speaker 3: demanded that Twitter revealed private information about Twitter users who

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Speaker 3: his own initiative without any respect for due process. Posts

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Speaker 3: on Twitter by parliamentarians from the Brazilian Congress, and Marice

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's get Elon's response to this, and

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Speaker 1: it's a he wrote his own X tweet here coming shortly,

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Speaker 1: X will publish everything demanded by Alijandre. This is the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice and how those requests violate Brazilian law,

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Speaker 1: Like they want the internal data on everyone who's doing

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Speaker 1: brazenly and repeatedly betrayed the constitution and people of Brazil.

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Speaker 1: He should resign and be impead Rick. There's two stories here.

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Speaker 1: I think one is this shifting of spheres as government

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Speaker 1: like the United States reaches out of its constitutional defined

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Speaker 1: territory and starts to exercise a broad dictatorial intrusion into

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Speaker 1: media and freedom of speech. It's the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: failure of the constitutional republics in the West, and we

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Speaker 1: should be watching this closely. Elon represents another interesting phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the mountains the mountain of government

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Speaker 1: a titan in media saying, not so fast. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to expose exactly what you're up to, and then you

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Speaker 1: deal with the fallout when your whole nation gets knocked

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Speaker 1: off of access to Twitter because you are shutting down

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Speaker 1: freedom of speech. I think he's going into a okay,

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Speaker 1: corral scenario. What's your take on this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm picturing Val Kilmer saying I'm your huckleberry. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly the way I see it too, you know.

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Speaker 2: And he's been saying, listen, I spent what was a

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Speaker 2: forty five billion or whatever to try and save free speech.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a guy that tweet that you

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Speaker 2: share principles or the quote principles over profits from. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is a phenomenal. And the fact that they're doing this,

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Speaker 2: you know, the same thing is happening here. Both justice

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Speaker 4: We've watched it with the J six stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, I haven't even had a chance to talk

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Speaker 4: Show trial. I'm trying to think of nice ways to

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Speaker 2: It showed me how broken our justice system is, and

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Speaker 2: the same thing's happening in Brazil, and without a good

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Speaker 2: justice system, you cannot have a free country. So we

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Speaker 2: always say it's or welly in this control of the

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Speaker 4: It really is. I mean, we're entering that phase.

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Speaker 2: But you alluded to the positive side of this, which

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Speaker 2: is the Joe Rogan's, the Elon Musk, the people that

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Speaker 2: really are the influencers of our day, much more so

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Speaker 2: That's where people are getting their opinions, that's where they're

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Speaker 4: Heads up on what's going on.

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Speaker 2: And I can't think of anyone with a massive audience

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Speaker 2: They all seem to be moving the right direction. Rogan

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Speaker 2: think that's a huge positive, positive thing. It's really a

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Speaker 2: reaction to the pain. Right, the tough times are starting,

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Speaker 2: so they're like, hey, wait a minute, how do we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think there's a big psychological divide between

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Speaker 1: you remember, like gets Smart, where they like that the

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Speaker 1: a dome that comes down over certain areas from the

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Speaker 1: liberal left, Hollywood crowd, the New York Times, liberty academic crowd.

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Speaker 1: You can even geographically pick it out where it's coastal

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Speaker 1: elite crowds and they're literally viewing the world through a

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Speaker 1: totally different lens. But the average person who's waking up

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Speaker 1: really breaking to our side, which is saying this is

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Speaker 1: a dangerous overreach. And I'm wondering when the line I

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Speaker 1: heard there internal data. They're requesting internal data like the

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Speaker 1: CIA and the FBI was working on Twitter before it

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Speaker 1: got taken over by Musk. Internal data. Is that they

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Speaker 1: could do what silence and suppress and target the influencers

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Speaker 1: who are in the people that are resistant. That's the

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Speaker 1: only thing I can think of they're operating. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this for those of you that aren't familiar with the drama,

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Speaker 1: here was Bolsonaro fan for a while because he was

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Speaker 1: called the Trump of the Tropics. That's how I first

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Speaker 4: He had been in office before right and convicted.

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Speaker 1: He was in office before and convicted of money laundering.

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Speaker 1: And it was this Supreme Court justice that got the

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Speaker 1: That's like the court being led by Majorcus and him

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Speaker 4: It is. And the opposite is true too.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I saw at the part of what

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Speaker 2: scal I'm telling you, man, it is it is very

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Speaker 2: much a political party and the justice system working together

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Speaker 2: to persecute their opposition. So where you're talking about a

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Speaker 2: situation where they work together to get their guys out

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Speaker 4: In power, the opposite's happening here.

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Speaker 2: They're using the DOJ and the FBI and the court

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Speaker 2: system in DC to persecute these people. And it is

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Speaker 2: so stacked Lance, I mean, due process is lost in

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Speaker 2: these trials, and this is these are thousands of people

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Speaker 4: You won't believe this.

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Speaker 2: They would not even let Rebecca, the defendant, who's the

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Speaker 2: praying grandma. Everybody's seeing her.

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Speaker 4: Now, how old is she?

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Speaker 1: She's like seventy two years old or like that Grandma

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Speaker 1: prayer warrior Grandma from Colorado. Gets in her car to

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Speaker 1: go to Washington, walks in for five days, fasting. Oh

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Okay, the police open up the door.

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Speaker 1: She goes in, talks to him, blesses him, prays for

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Speaker 1: parading her out to trial and sending her to prison.

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Speaker 1: She is the face now of rewriting the narrative of

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Speaker 1: January sixth. And you were at that trial. I got

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Speaker 1: fifty six seconds, give us a quick SoundBite on it.

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Speaker 2: Well, they would not even allow her or me as

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Speaker 2: about the First Amendment lance. You could not mention freedom

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Speaker 2: of speech, right to a symbol, right to petition your government,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Lance Wall Now Show. I have

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Speaker 1: watching the news cycle like you and I do. Rebecca Labyrinths,

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Speaker 1: that's her name. She's a Grandmarado, Colorado Grandma prayer warrior.

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Speaker 4: She literally fasted for.

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Speaker 2: Five days, prayed around the Capitol grounds, spoke on one

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Speaker 2: She didn't break anything, she didn't climb over anything. She

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, Lance that.

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Speaker 2: Courtroom, it was so obvious that the oppression and the

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Speaker 2: Just think about the money that's being spent, because multiply

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Speaker 2: And this is exactly you know, you go back to

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Speaker 4: We don't have lawyers and judges at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: These are not people that believe in blind justice, equal justice,

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Speaker 4: It's not what we have.

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Speaker 2: We have social justice, where everybody's judged based on their

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Speaker 4: It's evil, it's wrong, and they own the system in DC.

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Speaker 2: And the only thing that's going to change any of

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Speaker 6: Well, I was wondering, Rick, where does she go from here?

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Speaker 6: What can she you know, what's her recourse here?

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Speaker 2: Well, she's gotten till August. I think it's twelfth that

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Speaker 4: They may be so wrongheaded.

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Speaker 2: The fact that they would go after her even and

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Speaker 2: What you've just convicted me of all these things. My

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Speaker 2: That tells you where these people are. All they wanted

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Speaker 1: I will predict that she will get probation. Here's the

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Speaker 1: bad when you go after grandmoms for ten minutes in

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Speaker 2: You've been acquitted. They would have been able to say,

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Speaker 1: It moveth the needle. By the way, I want to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people need to get this clear. Donald

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Speaker 7: Many people have asked me what my position is on

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Speaker 7: They wanted it ended, it must be remembered that the

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Speaker 7: You must follow your heart or in many cases your

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Speaker 7: At the end of the day, it's all about will

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Speaker 1: The will of the people. So I haven't had a

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Speaker 1: lot of Christians are moralistically. Let's say they do not

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Speaker 1: understand that when it comes to the battle of public persuasion,

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Speaker 1: which is what Wilberforce did in order to eradicate slavery.

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Speaker 1: He's said, over his life of like fifty years eradicating slavery.

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Speaker 1: He said, we must staying a pattern of persuasion publicly

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Speaker 1: in order to move the needle so that people understand

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Speaker 1: what the issue of slavery is. And it was a

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Speaker 1: lifetime that he's spent doing that. What I think happens

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Speaker 1: when you've got like a Mike Pence that says, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is this a total compromise on a slap in

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Speaker 1: the face of the pro life people. What we have

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Speaker 1: to realize is we made a mistake and we and Rick,

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Speaker 1: you've been on shows like this with me where we're

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Speaker 1: celebrating rov Wade came down and to the average uninformed

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Speaker 1: Christian abortion has been ended in America. No abortion wasn't

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Speaker 1: ended in America. A bad law that was in the

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Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court was shot down saying it wasn't

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Speaker 1: the right of the court to make a national decision

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Speaker 1: where states have the authority to make this decision. So

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Speaker 1: the battle goes to the states. And if you think

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Speaker 1: the Christian community, which it may be completely right on

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Speaker 1: its moral stand on a life in the womb, if

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Speaker 1: you think that you're going to win at an election

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Speaker 1: when you can't even win the battle in your own state,

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Speaker 1: the real wake up call for me was when the

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Speaker 1: states started taking the issue like Ohio in other days

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Speaker 1: and beating down the pro life people because our people

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Speaker 1: aren't prepared to make the battle of public persuasion coherent.

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Speaker 1: We don't vote, we're not persuasive, we're not informed. And

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Speaker 1: you can't just eradicate something like what gay marriage because

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Speaker 1: you disagree with it. You actually have to make a case,

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Speaker 1: and then the mechanisms of government get behind you. If

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Speaker 1: Trump had gone down to, you know, a ban at

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Speaker 1: a certain week, at a point of weeks, he would

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Speaker 1: have been playing into the hands of the left. And

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Speaker 1: already they're going to make this their primary issue right now,

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Speaker 1: which is the abortion issue. So how do you see

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Speaker 1: that and how do you work that out? Rick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, so much of what you just said one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent. You know, I think back to this twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen race when they were in I think it was

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Speaker 2: a second maybe the third debate. I can't remember when

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Speaker 2: when partialworth abortion came up, and you know, Hillary definitive

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Speaker 2: of course, and Donald Trump was just like in a

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Speaker 2: visceral reaction, a knee gut reaction, reaction, saying, a knee

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Speaker 2: drunk reaction, just saying, this is wrong, man, this is evil.

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Speaker 2: You're killing a baby when it's halfway born. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: he really won me over at that point. I know

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Speaker 2: that was late in the election.

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Speaker 4: At that point I was supporting him to not support Hillary.

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Speaker 4: At that point, I thought, this guy's instincts are right.

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Speaker 4: Think about what just happened there. Lance the most watched

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Speaker 4: man on.

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Speaker 2: The planet, all right, more people are getting both sides

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Speaker 2: pay attention to what he says than anybody else alive today.

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Speaker 2: And the most watched man on the planet just got

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Speaker 2: through describing the death of a baby and how evil

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Speaker 2: abortion is. That's persuasion, and he's right, there's no way

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Speaker 2: politically you're going to outlaw abortion completely in all fifty states.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen. If the Supreme Court gave a

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Speaker 2: ruling of that, it wouldn't happen in a bunch of

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Speaker 2: these really left wing states. And so we're very much

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Speaker 2: you brought up the right analogy, which is slavery were

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Speaker 2: very much where the US was in the late eighteen

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Speaker 2: forties and early eighteen fifties in terms.

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Speaker 4: Of this debate.

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Speaker 2: Exactly won the anti slavery movement. They had the same

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Speaker 2: fights that we're having within the pro life.

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Speaker 1: All right, listen, I got I gotta tell you what

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Speaker 1: you said. I got to I got to take a

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Speaker 1: quick break. I hate to do it, but this is

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Speaker 1: what this is what's required. Right now, we're going to

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Speaker 1: come right back this conversation. You don't want to miss it.

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Speaker 5: The Lance Wallnow Show will return right after this break.

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Speaker 1: For those of you that are just joining us. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we're at the Lance Wallow Show. We're having a spirited

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Speaker 1: dialogue with my friend here, Rick Green. And Rick we

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Speaker 1: were talking about Trump's political calculus, what he has to

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Speaker 1: do with abortion, and I think that a lot of

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Speaker 1: our strong pro life Christians need to understand something that

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Speaker 1: I think Charlie Kirk did the best job. I could

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Speaker 1: see Charlie doing damage control for the president immediately on

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Speaker 1: his show. Let's bring up the tweet from Charlie. I

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Speaker 1: can never get used to calling these things xes masterful

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Speaker 1: statement by Trump and abortion pro life leaders. I've spoken

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Speaker 1: to her, very happy. Trump is clear on the moral

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Speaker 1: position of abortion. Reiterated he is glad Roe was repealed

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Speaker 1: and then send it back to the States for this

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Speaker 1: battle to be waged. Major credit to President Trump for

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Speaker 1: resisting the forces who waged an aggressive Mike Pence lobbying

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Speaker 1: effort for him to declare an arbitrary, weak deadline. He

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Speaker 1: trusted his instincts and allows the pro life movement a

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Speaker 1: huge opportunity to continue this human rights issue in the States.

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Speaker 1: He's one hundred percent right. If we don't win elections, listen, people,

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Speaker 1: this is what I want to say. If we don't

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Speaker 1: win elections, we get zero of what we want. Without

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Speaker 1: political power, Democrats will make abortion the law of the land.

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Speaker 1: I was with Kelly an Conway last week and she

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Speaker 1: made this I'm mostly for good arguments you know, we

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Speaker 1: need to have better arguments. We got a lot of

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Speaker 1: opinions in our our movement, very little information. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you see that with the Patriot Academy. But here's a

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Speaker 1: piece of information that I found very persuasive. Science has

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Speaker 1: established the fact that roughly the week fifteen, the baby

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Speaker 1: in the womb that is being formed can feel pain.

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Speaker 1: From week fifteen on, you have a sentient being that

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Speaker 1: can feel pain. At that point, you are in a

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Speaker 1: moral dilemma as to what you're doing with that life

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Speaker 1: in the womb. And I think that makes it a

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Speaker 1: little bit clearer. You're not dealing with some kind of

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Speaker 1: abstract gelatine substance. You can see. You're dealing with a

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Speaker 1: human being that feels pain if you want to kill it.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, boom, all right, I'm going to remember

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Speaker 1: that one because a lot of moms that are going

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Speaker 1: to be courted by the left with the women's reproductive

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Speaker 1: right argument actually are against nine months, you know, taking

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Speaker 1: the baby out. But I didn't want to close this

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Speaker 1: out without saying is still going to be in the States,

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Speaker 1: and then this is where the left is going to go.

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Speaker 1: Do you see this as being their strongest argument they're

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Speaker 1: going to have. It's going to be this or do

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Speaker 1: what other issues do you think they're going to push?

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Speaker 2: Rick green Well, Yes, especially especially if if Trump goes

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Speaker 2: pro life where I am right, that's your position, that's

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Speaker 2: my position. We would love it if we could wave

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Speaker 2: a magic wand in America outlawed abortion in all fifty states.

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Speaker 2: You know, from beginning to end, from conception, that's how

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Speaker 2: it should be, that's how it used to be.

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Speaker 4: That's not how it is now. And there's no way

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Speaker 4: to get there immediately.

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Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan said I'll take half the loaf today and

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Speaker 2: come back and fight for the other half tomorrow. And

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Speaker 2: too many in the pro life movement do not understand that.

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Speaker 2: That's you have to get incremental, you have to get there.

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Speaker 2: We are not at the point where we can get

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Speaker 2: the whole Enchilada all at once. I remember Lance as

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Speaker 2: a state legislator my first term, we were trying to

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Speaker 2: get just parental consent. That was our first step. Make

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Speaker 2: it where you have to have parental consent. Next, i'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: parental notification, which is far less than parental consent.

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Speaker 4: And because we would.

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Speaker 2: Not go all the way and completely outlaw abortion, and

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Speaker 2: all that we were called abortion.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, are you crazy?

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Speaker 2: We have to win the battles that we can win

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Speaker 2: at the time, and as you said, articulate and win

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Speaker 2: this thing. And listen, I just just last week went

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Speaker 2: to the sonogram for my son, Reagan named Reagan and

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Speaker 2: his wife Faith and saw that beautiful baby in the womb.

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Speaker 4: Anybody that watches a sonogram has to know that is life.

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Speaker 4: That is not a clump of sales. It is life.

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Speaker 2: And that's the kind of stuff that continues to win

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Speaker 2: people over. And that's why we need to be supporting

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Speaker 2: these organizations that get the sonograms in front of these mamas.

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Speaker 4: That saves babies while we work to change the laws.

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Speaker 4: But you nailed it. This is a fifty state battle.

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Speaker 2: We got to be fighting in each of the fifty

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Speaker 2: states to get a more and more pro life nation.

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Speaker 4: But it's not going to happen overnight. I wish it could. Well,

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Speaker 4: it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to move on for such an important subject,

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Speaker 1: but there's something else I want to talk about. But however,

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Speaker 1: I could see that Mercedes Sparks has somebody to contribute. Mercedes, well,

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Speaker 1: just as the only woman on the panel. Yes, related

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Speaker 1: to it. The men will explain all these issues about babies,

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Speaker 1: and thank you.

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Speaker 6: Now, I just wanted to bring up the point that

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Speaker 6: as we're going into election se and when we talk

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Speaker 6: about ballot initiatives, it's before voters. So it's in Florida, Maryland,

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Speaker 6: New York, and in these other states are gathering signatures

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Speaker 6: now to get ballot initiatives some sort of amendment related

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Speaker 6: to abortion in South Dakota, Nevada, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska.

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Speaker 6: So it is moving to a state by state battle.

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Speaker 6: And Lance, what you said at the beginning is so

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Speaker 6: important that Christians forget. It's outlawed at a federal level,

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Speaker 6: but at a state level, you have to show up

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Speaker 6: and vote and you have to be mindful of what

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Speaker 6: the amendments are, especially this next election season. So just

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Speaker 6: want to throw that in there.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to and the last segment here, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to get into some in Colorado that's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: There are some ballot initiatives, and I think the best

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Speaker 1: way of countering their aggressive abortion platform is to change

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Speaker 1: the subject to protecting the children from the transgender agenda

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Speaker 1: in the schools and protecting the parents' freedom to be

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Speaker 1: able to have authority over what happens to children. And

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Speaker 1: on that line, you know, we've we've been disappointed with

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Speaker 1: the Catholic Church an awful lot, you and I. But

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Speaker 1: the Pope Francis who recently let gay Catholics receive blessings,

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Speaker 1: which is a kind of a marriage light, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, ceremony has and he's permitted open transsexuals to

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Speaker 1: be godparents and Catholic ceremonies. He has drawn a line here,

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Speaker 1: and I think we ought to be honest about saying,

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Speaker 1: when the Catholic Church gets it right, we celebrate him.

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Speaker 1: A new document issue by the Vatican yesterday called the

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Speaker 1: Dignetis Infinita Infinite Dignity, explained a person's birth sex is

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Speaker 1: an irrevocable gift from God. Any sex change intervention, as

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Speaker 1: a rule, risk threatening the unique dignity the person has

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Speaker 1: received from the moment of conception. People who want personal

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Speaker 1: self determination, as gender theory prescribes, risk succumbing to the

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Speaker 1: age old temptation to make one self like God, change

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Speaker 1: your identity, change your gender, basically overrule what came out

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Speaker 1: of the womb. What are your thoughts about the Pope's

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Speaker 1: decision on this.

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Speaker 2: Rick, Yeah, I'm like you have been very disappointed in

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Speaker 2: this pope on multiple levels. But we have to champion

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Speaker 2: and we have to applaud when people get it right.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if they're Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, Catholic, Protestant, whatever,

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Speaker 2: you're exactly right. And think about the statement that was made.

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Speaker 2: That's a very strong statement. It's essentially what we've been

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Speaker 2: saying for a long time that when you try to

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Speaker 2: do the transgender thing, you're essentially claiming that you're God.

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Speaker 4: You're changing the way.

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Speaker 2: You're literally shaking your fist at God and saying, well,

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Speaker 2: you might have made me that way, but this is

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Speaker 2: what I'm.

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Speaker 4: Going to change myself to be.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that the Catholic Church would say this

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Speaker 2: big win for us on the biblical side of things

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Speaker 2: and trying to restore sanity in this country but across

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Speaker 2: the world. So there's a good positive step and one

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Speaker 2: that I would not have expected to be honest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a relief, right that we're not feeing, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, we just we can't afford shows that there's

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Speaker 1: reasons for hope that we still have light in the

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Speaker 1: talk about for a second, the ancient Christian battle with

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Speaker 1: first century Church, which was the spiritualizing of biblical reality,

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Speaker 1: and the first century apostles had to fight this gnosticism constantly,

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Speaker 1: biblical doctrine. And the reason I bring that up is

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Speaker 1: you're not. Transactivists clearly believe people have a gendered spirit

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Speaker 1: being on the inside of them that's separate from their

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Speaker 1: physical hormone, chromosome, sex body. It explains the way that

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Speaker 1: you want to be. But it's interesting to me that

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Speaker 1: this really it does kind of is always a rewrapping

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Speaker 1: rick of how the devil goes about positioning a deception,

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Speaker 1: so we don't have the early gnostic heresies to deal

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Speaker 1: spirit being? We have a different one, which is you

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Speaker 1: have different You could have a male spirit and a

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Speaker 1: female body. Understand the argument here God must not exist,

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Speaker 1: or if God exists, he's screwed up because I'm a

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Speaker 1: guy in a girl's body or I'm a girl in

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Speaker 1: a guy's body. That's where it starts in terms of

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Speaker 1: how the schools begin to confuse children at the age

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Speaker 1: does that make sense to you? That exaggerating this?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I like to I like the term you

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Speaker 2: used too. It's a rewrapping of it. It's the old

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Speaker 2: you know. It's like Solomon said, nothing new under the sun.

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Speaker 2: And and you know, listen, the the the enemy is

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Speaker 2: can't create, right, so all they can do is pervert.

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Speaker 2: All that Satan can do is pervert what God created,

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Speaker 2: and so he's not able to create something new.

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Speaker 4: So we get the same kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: Over and over and over again in terms of his

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Speaker 2: rewrapping of of these things and these destructive methods. And

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Speaker 2: it is very, very similar, and it's and it's even

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Speaker 2: kind of like the New Age movement and the whole

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Speaker 2: all that mysticism, and this is sort of the apex

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Speaker 2: of that. I mean, this has become really there. It's

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Speaker 2: been the furthest they've been able to go as certainly

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Speaker 2: in the American culture, to replace God with self and

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Speaker 2: to be able to remake yourself any way that.

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Speaker 1: You want, and to create a multi billion dollar industry

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Speaker 1: that backs it. Rick, I know you got to leave

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Speaker 1: with a hard exit here. We got thirty nine seconds.

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Speaker 1: How can people follow you and how can they get

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Speaker 1: informed about the Patriot Academy.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Patriot Academy folks, come see us, take our biblical

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Speaker 2: our biblical values and constitutional principles.

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Speaker 4: Patriot Academy dot com. Lance, Thanks man. I always enjoy

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Speaker 4: being with you. Rick.

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Speaker 1: It's always great seeing you. God bless you.

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Speaker 4: Brother.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for doing the show today. And he's a great guy.

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Speaker 1: We got to have him back. Because I want to

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Speaker 1: have him talk about how he got into the Texas

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Speaker 1: State legislator. I think our people are going to be

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Speaker 1: called the public service in a new way, and I

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Speaker 1: look forward to having that conversation with you. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back.

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Speaker 5: The Lance Wallnow Show will return right after this break.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to this segment. It's going to be a

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Speaker 1: little different segment on the show right now because what

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Speaker 1: I want to do is use the board here, not

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Speaker 1: a whiteboard, it's kind of a glassboard to illustrate what's

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Speaker 1: happening really in the news cycle. Now. Sometimes I get

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Speaker 1: to do this show for news media on a Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: so we have kind of an interesting blend here. I

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Speaker 1: get to go more in the Bible than I normally

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Speaker 1: do for news analysis. But do you ever wonder how

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Speaker 1: the Bible relates to news? I mean, other than end

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Speaker 1: times and predictive and eschatology, which is the study of

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Speaker 1: end time events. What about Does the Bible say anything

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Speaker 1: about politics, about social justice, about gender, about economics? Yes

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Speaker 1: it does, But because the Church has surrendered those subjects

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Speaker 1: to the political arena and it doesn't want to get

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Speaker 1: involved with politics, you're not getting educated and I'm not

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Speaker 1: hearing a whole lot of sermons on stuff that every

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Speaker 1: day is in the news cycle. So let me give

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Speaker 1: you a biblical perspective on this. In the Old Testament,

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Speaker 1: God had kings, they ran government, and God had priests,

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Speaker 1: and they'd be over there in the church. And in

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Speaker 1: a sense, what you have is like I like to

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Speaker 1: do these mountain ideas here, and so you have the

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Speaker 1: church over here, and the temple priest would be over there.

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Speaker 1: Then you had the king over here, and there was

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Speaker 1: actually a calling to each office. If you were called

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Speaker 1: to be a king, there was an anointing that you

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Speaker 1: would have literally oil put upon you in a ceremony.

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Speaker 1: And the very first king that was in the Bible

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Speaker 1: gives you some clues. It's called the law first mentioned.

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Speaker 1: When God gives a first instance of something, there's a

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Speaker 1: revelation that's locked to be in And so I want

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Speaker 1: you to go over here to First Samuel, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to read my infinitely small print Bible up close.

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Speaker 1: If you read First Samuel chapter ten, you'll see where

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Speaker 1: Samuel picks the first king for Israel, whose name is Soul,

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Speaker 1: and it says you're in verse one Samuel took a

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Speaker 1: he kissed him, and he said, I'm doing this because

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Speaker 1: the Lord has anointed you as commander over his inheritance.

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Speaker 1: So the first insight we had is that kings are

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Speaker 1: supposed to be chosen by God, anointed with God's grace,

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Speaker 1: in God's spirit, in order to steward God's inheritance. The

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Speaker 1: earth belongs to the Lord. That's the biblical worldview. So

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Speaker 1: we're steward's. Then when you die, you're accountable for your stewardship.

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Speaker 1: You track them with you. So far so here the

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Speaker 1: king is going to be in charge of this realm,

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Speaker 1: but that realm actually is going to be over all

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Speaker 1: the land of Israel. His job is to protect the temple,

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Speaker 1: protect the Church while he's expanding and working on the

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Speaker 1: profitability of prosperity and the blessing of Israel itself. So

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Speaker 1: that gives you an idea. But here's the key that

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Speaker 1: I find so fascinating, the little details in the Bibles

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Speaker 1: that makes it so interesting. Samuel says, but before you

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Speaker 1: start doing your first day of your administration, you're going

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Speaker 1: to have a series of divine appointments that God Almighty

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Speaker 1: is orchestrated in order to o open your eyes and

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Speaker 1: prepare you for the job. And over here in verse

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Speaker 1: five he says to him, Saul, you are going to

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Speaker 1: This is going to be the hill of God, God's

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Speaker 1: hill and on it is a garrison of the Philistines.

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Speaker 1: At this point, it isn't ruled by the king. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a stronghold for the Philistines. I want you to

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Speaker 1: garrison of Philistines, and the spirit of God is going

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Speaker 1: to come upon you and you're going to begin to

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Speaker 1: be changed into the man that can take on the

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Speaker 1: here is that kings are anointed by God in order

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Speaker 1: the structures that actually belong to God. They're his inheritance.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to know why it is that

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Speaker 1: it's because when you look at the various mountains of

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Speaker 1: let's say business. The more that these areas become occupied

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Speaker 1: God's wisdom, God's word, in God's ways, you produce an oppression.

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Speaker 1: Eventually it's going to be found in an outright persecution

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Speaker 1: what does the Bible say about these metaphysical high places,

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Speaker 1: this location in the Old Testament. I did some research

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Speaker 1: this week. It is very interesting to me and I

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Speaker 1: found out. Let me see, I got in First Kings

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Speaker 1: chapter fifteen, that this is the book in the Bible

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Speaker 1: that chronicles the journey of the kings, and God gives

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Speaker 1: a report card. He was a good king, he was

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Speaker 1: a bad king. He was a bad king. He started

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Speaker 1: So watch what happens and the report card of God.

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Speaker 1: First King's chapter fifteen. I ran into this curious verse.

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Speaker 1: It's King Aesa verse eleven, Chapter fifteen, First Kings. If

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Speaker 1: Asa did what was right in the eyes of the Lord,

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Speaker 1: as did his father David Ah. So David and Asa

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Speaker 1: and why was it right? He banished the perverted persons

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Speaker 1: left the high places unremoved. Nevertheless, ASA's heart was loyal

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Speaker 1: to the Lord all his days. Notice verse fourteen. The

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Speaker 1: high places he did not mess with. So what happens

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Speaker 1: is these high places. You might make partial progress in

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Speaker 1: kind of reforming or dealing with one area, but it's

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Speaker 1: very tempting for kings, modern day politicians, modern day business moguls,

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Speaker 1: God's report card, nevertheless, is pretty clear. Hey, he was

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Speaker 1: pretty good. He dealt with his mother in law his

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Speaker 1: So let's go to the next one. We've got second

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Speaker 1: whereas oh yeah, twenty two, So we'll get a second

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Speaker 1: Kings twenty two, verse forty three. So what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: how the Old Testament relates to the era of the

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Speaker 1: ear in right now, So Jehosaphat, the son of Asa.

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Speaker 1: Now we got the next generation, the son of Asa

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Speaker 1: verse forty one. He becomes king over Judah in the

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Speaker 1: fourth year of Ahab, king of Israel. Ahabs in the north,

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Speaker 1: Judas in the south. And he walked in all the

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Speaker 1: the Lord. Now the report card. Nevertheless, the high places

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Speaker 1: were not taken away, because the people continue to offer

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Speaker 1: sacrifices and burned incense on the high places. I think

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Speaker 1: we sometimes believe we're so different than the people of antiquity,

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Speaker 1: but it's the same devil, and believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: you've got no new emotions. Technology can change how you're tempted,

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Speaker 1: but there ain't no new temptations. It's the same emotions anger, loize, fear, nobility, sacrifice, love, compassion.

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Speaker 1: No new feelings, no new emotions, just new technology to

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Speaker 1: create new opportunities. But the reality is kings. You see

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Speaker 1: here are the particular category of people that are annoying

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Speaker 1: that I believe when Jesus says that He's the King

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Speaker 1: of kings and Lord of lords, and that we are,

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Speaker 1: according to the New Testament, a kingdom of priests or

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Speaker 1: a royal priesthood is what Peter calls it. I believe

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Speaker 1: that every believer has the authority when they're in these

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Speaker 1: different fields to ask God, what is it that you've

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Speaker 1: called me to do. I have a businessman friend of

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Speaker 1: mine who has of a business network in Australia. He said,

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Speaker 1: the first thing that he asks his businessman when they

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Speaker 1: come together to form an influence in the marketplace is

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Speaker 1: what is the nature of the stronghold that you're taking down?

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Speaker 1: What is occupying the hill of God that you're called

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Speaker 1: to manifest God's presence in? What are you warring against

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Speaker 1: Remember Jeremiah the prophet. He comes up and he rises

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Speaker 1: up in the church. He goes over to the government

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Speaker 1: and he says, I've been called by God to tear down,

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Speaker 1: to uproot, and to destroy, and to build and plant.

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Speaker 1: That's three times you have to do something to take

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Speaker 1: something down. For the two times that you're actually going

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Speaker 1: to be building something up, I've got to take something

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Speaker 1: down to plant something to build it up. Kings having

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Speaker 1: changed in the thousands of years of Bible history, the

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Speaker 1: hills still are there, government and church or media. When

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Speaker 1: we're doing our news broadcasts, like recently I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk taking on the government in Brazil. Why because

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Speaker 1: the media mountain there has a champion who won't bow

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Speaker 1: the knee to the pressure of the Justice Department and

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Speaker 1: the government of Brazil. This is age old conflict. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen. I want you to know the Bible is

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Speaker 1: as relevant today as it was when it was written,

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Speaker 1: and the stories are still true. My encouragement to you

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Speaker 1: is to go to Landsfellow dot com Forward Slash podcast,

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Speaker 1: make sure you're staying informed, make sure that you're listening

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Speaker 1: to what's going on. Because as much as as possible.

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Speaker 1: My passion is to try to make biblical truth relevant

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Speaker 1: to today's events and give you a prophetic accuracy in

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Speaker 1: discerning the times and knowing what to do. Look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing you again on our next broadcast.