WEBVTT - Poltergeist Curse: Paranormal Activity, a Plane Crash, and Murder

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<v Speaker 1>Disgraceland as a production of Double Elvis. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>story about a horror movie franchise, but it's also a

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<v Speaker 1>story about a curse and freakish events that haunted the

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<v Speaker 1>sets of three horror films. I'm talking about strangulation, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about an exorcism. I'm talking about a story where

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<v Speaker 1>one actress from the film franchise was brutally murdered, and

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<v Speaker 1>a story where two more actors died unexpectedly. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>story about a horrible plane crash, a story about the

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<v Speaker 1>poltergeist curse, a movie that scared the hell out of moviegoers,

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<v Speaker 1>and a movie with an iconic theme. Great music, unlike

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<v Speaker 1>that music I played for you at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. That wasn't great music. That was a preset

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<v Speaker 1>loop from my melotron called c Static MK two. I

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<v Speaker 1>played you that loop because I can't afford the rights

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<v Speaker 1>to Ebony and Ivory by Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>And why would I play you that specific slice of

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<v Speaker 1>black and white cheese? Could I afford it? Because that

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<v Speaker 1>was the number one song in America on June fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty two, and that was the day of the

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<v Speaker 1>film franchise Poultergeist launched into theaters, scaring the hell out

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<v Speaker 1>of teenagers and little kids like me at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and starting rumors of a cursed film franchise that would

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<v Speaker 1>claim the lives of many. On this episode strangulation, exorcism, murder, death,

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<v Speaker 1>and destruction in the Poultergeist Curse. I'm Jake Brennan, and

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<v Speaker 1>this this disgraceland Richard laws And thought it was his

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<v Speaker 1>lucky day. First, he had been able to beat the

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<v Speaker 1>incoming snowstorm by switching his flight from Monday to Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant that he'd be able to escape New York

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<v Speaker 1>and make it to Cleveland, where he could honor his

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<v Speaker 1>commitment to the Cleveland Cavaliers. As a drug counselor for

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA, Richard often extolled the virtues of simply showing

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<v Speaker 1>up and if he needed a little luck so that

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<v Speaker 1>he could show up well, he'd gladly take it and

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<v Speaker 1>then and more luck. The ticket agent at LaGuardia recognized

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<v Speaker 1>him not from his work with the NBA, which, despite

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<v Speaker 1>being real honest work, was actually his side hustle, because

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Lawson's day job was as an actor with appearances

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<v Speaker 1>and recurring roles on everything from Remington Steel to Dynasty,

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<v Speaker 1>and most recently, as a regular cast member on the

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<v Speaker 1>daytime soap All My Children. The ticket agent noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>Richard was sitting in coach seat six A, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a diehard All My Children devotee, quickly upgraded the actor

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<v Speaker 1>to seat one F in first class. But now from

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<v Speaker 1>the leathery comfort of his spacious first class seat, Richard

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<v Speaker 1>had a sudden, inexplicable feeling that his luck was about

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<v Speaker 1>to change. The snow was already coming down. Flights had

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<v Speaker 1>been delayed all day long as Creuz worked to thaw

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<v Speaker 1>out the side of the plane. Richard thought he could

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<v Speaker 1>actually feel the warm chemical blast of de icing fluid.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he felt something else, a chill. His stomach

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<v Speaker 1>went upside down. The plane wasn't even moving, but something

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<v Speaker 1>was off. Something was wrong. Richard felt it deep in

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<v Speaker 1>his gut. He had to get off the plane. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>hold up. He took a deep breath, calm down. The

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<v Speaker 1>basketball team was waiting in Cleveland. He had to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>He needed to chill the fuck out. Everything was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fine. Richard convinced himself that there was nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about. The plane took its place behind several

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<v Speaker 1>others on the runway. Minutes passed, ten minutes, twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>the snow began to come down harder. Thirty minutes the

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<v Speaker 1>plane slowly ambled down the tarmac and the wind blew,

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<v Speaker 1>stinging wet against the cabin windows. As the plane was

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<v Speaker 1>cleared for ta off, Richards started to worry again. All

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<v Speaker 1>that de icing had happened thirty minutes ago. What if

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<v Speaker 1>the plane was covered in ice again. Richard's anxiety began

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<v Speaker 1>to increase in direct proportion to the plane's increase in

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<v Speaker 1>speed as it taxied down the runway, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>were airborne. The plane was barely fifty feet in the

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<v Speaker 1>air when it began to roll to the right. It

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<v Speaker 1>rolled some more hard, and then the nose pointed down

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a magnet being pulled down to a

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<v Speaker 1>steel turmac. Passengers screened and the plane was nearly sideways

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<v Speaker 1>when it hit the ground, and the crunch was deafening.

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<v Speaker 1>They caught air again briefly, and then once more came

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<v Speaker 1>down hard, and the nauseating screech of metal on asphalt

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<v Speaker 1>rang out. Flames licked the windows from outside. It was

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<v Speaker 1>impossible for anyone to tell where the plane was at

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<v Speaker 1>or what direction it was headed in. It was rolling

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<v Speaker 1>over on itself, tumbling towards oblivion, literally splitting apart at

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<v Speaker 1>the seams, and suddenly everything went black. The noises stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>and the passagers could barely see a thing, but they

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<v Speaker 1>knew they were upside down, held in place only by

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<v Speaker 1>their safety belts, and the sound of bubbles began to

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<v Speaker 1>percolate from all sides. Goddamn thing was underwater. The plane

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<v Speaker 1>had landed in Flushing Bay and it was slowly sinking

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom. But Richard Lawson knew he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to die. He was trapped, His body was pinned between

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<v Speaker 1>two unseen objects. He began to panic for real, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was luck, all right, bad luck. Maybe he shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have taken that upgrade to first class, Maybe he shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have switched flights. Maybe one of his minor decisions that

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<v Speaker 1>day had jinxed it. And maybe his bad luck was

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than his choices that day. As the plane cabin

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<v Speaker 1>began to fill with ice cold salt water, Richard's mind

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<v Speaker 1>flashed back to that one movie he had made ten

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<v Speaker 1>years earlier, in nineteen eighty two, The legacy of Poltergeist

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<v Speaker 1>and its Seagulls was infamous, four actors dead in their wake.

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<v Speaker 1>Some said the productions were ill fated and that the

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<v Speaker 1>actors were the ones paying the ultimate price. One by one.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Lawson struggled to free himself from the overturned airplane

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<v Speaker 1>as it was swallowed by flushing bay. He knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was futile. His fate was clear. He was about to

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<v Speaker 1>become the latest tragedy in the Poltergeist Curse. The skeletons

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<v Speaker 1>weren't supposed to be real, or that's what actress Joebeth

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<v Speaker 1>Williams assumed. Real skeletons would be too creepy, too gross,

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<v Speaker 1>But fake skeletons cost too much and took too much

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<v Speaker 1>time to manufacture. Real skeletons were cheap and easy to

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<v Speaker 1>come by, so it was real skeletons that bobbed up

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<v Speaker 1>in the muddy water and brushed elbows with joe Beth

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<v Speaker 1>Williams in the iconic pool scene from the original Poltergeist,

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<v Speaker 1>Toby Hooper's nineteen eighty two horror classic. Joe Beth's authentic

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to her close encounter with actual human bones helped

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<v Speaker 1>make Poltergeist not only the highest grossing horror movie of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty two, but the eighth highest grossing movie of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire year. And it wasn't the only authentic reaction

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie. Eleven year old Oliver Robbins, who played

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<v Speaker 1>Joebeth's son, was reportedly nearly choked to death by his

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<v Speaker 1>character's toy clown as the possessed toy wrapped a long

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<v Speaker 1>arm around his neck and tried to strangle him. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Oliver, while they were shooting the scene, the animatronic

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<v Speaker 1>clown malfunctioned and the arm actually constricted his airway. He struggled,

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes bumped out, he gasped for air, and the

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<v Speaker 1>crew of adults thought that Oliver was simply delivering a knockdown,

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<v Speaker 1>drag out performance, and it wasn't until his face began

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<v Speaker 1>to turn blue that they realized something was terribly wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>None of these terrifying onset mishaps faced child actress Heather O'Rourke,

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<v Speaker 1>who was all of five years old when she was

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<v Speaker 1>first cast as Carol Anne, the youngest member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Freeling family and the character who makes contact with and

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<v Speaker 1>later is abducted by the malevolent spirits haunting her family's house.

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<v Speaker 1>Heather was told there was nothing to fear. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>she had been taught how to pretend she was afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>She hadn't acted before, but she knew the business of

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<v Speaker 1>making movies, the make believe business. Her older sister made movies.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Heather was lunching in the MGM commissary with

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<v Speaker 1>her mother one day, waiting for her sister to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>a scene, when Stephen Spielberg spotted her. Spielberg was Poltergeist

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<v Speaker 1>writer and producer, and Heather fit his vision for Carol

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<v Speaker 1>Anne Freeling to a tea. Spielberg was in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of making his latest masterpiece, E T the Extraterrestrial, and

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<v Speaker 1>was therefore contractually prohibited from directing another movie at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, which is why MGM hired Toby Hooper of

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Chainsaw Massacre Fame to direct Spielberg's Poultergeist script. But

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<v Speaker 1>Spielberg couldn't divorce himself from the production. He was on

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<v Speaker 1>set just as much as Hooper, and according to which

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<v Speaker 1>cast or crew members you ask, he was the one

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<v Speaker 1>who was actually really calling the shots. What Spielberg and

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<v Speaker 1>Hooper did and didn't do where one of them ended

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<v Speaker 1>and the other began. Well, that was just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of Hollywood magic. It was all part of the

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<v Speaker 1>larger sleight of hand. As Heather O'Rourke would learn, it

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<v Speaker 1>was how movies got made. It was all make believe,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the scary bits were make believe. But that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't entirely true. That was just something that adults said

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<v Speaker 1>to make children less frightened. The truth was, there were

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<v Speaker 1>things there, unexplainable things, things that made the hair stand

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<v Speaker 1>up on the back of your neck and the skin

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<v Speaker 1>on your arms tinkle. Who were what those things were?

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<v Speaker 1>It was sometimes impossible to know, but one thing was

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. There he and they had always been here.

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<v Speaker 1>James Hermann stood in the doorway to the bathroom, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to his son, who was brushing his teeth. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a perfectly normal moment, downright prosaic, actually, one that happened

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<v Speaker 1>nearly every day. But it was about to be disrupted

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<v Speaker 1>by a very abnormal occurrence, the kind that was beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to happen with alarming frequency at the family's three bedroom,

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<v Speaker 1>single story house. It was around eleven in the morning Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>February ninth, nineteen fifty eight. Strange things have been happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hermann's home at sixteen forty eight Redwood Path

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<v Speaker 1>in Seaford, Long Island for nearly a week. Bottles all

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the house were popping open on their own and

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<v Speaker 1>falling to the floor. Shampoo, medicine, liquid starch in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>bleach in the basement, a bottle of holy water in

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<v Speaker 1>the mast at bedroom, and none of the bottles were

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<v Speaker 1>sealed with corks or pop tops. They all had screw caps,

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<v Speaker 1>which required several rotations to remove. James and Lucille, along

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<v Speaker 1>with their children, twelve year old James Junior and a

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen year old daughter, also named Lucille, listened in varying

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<v Speaker 1>degrees of confusion and fear as the bottles popped and

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<v Speaker 1>fell from nearby rooms all week long, but they hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed it firsthand until now. As James Junior worked the

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<v Speaker 1>toothbrush back and forth on his molars, James Senior stood

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<v Speaker 1>in the doorway of the bathroom and watched in horror

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<v Speaker 1>as a glass medicine bottle moved shakily across the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the sink eighteen inches give her take entirely on

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<v Speaker 1>its own, and then it crashed and shattered into the

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<v Speaker 1>sink basin. James Junior jumped, his toothbrush hit the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>and James Herman couldn't explain it. The sink top was level.

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<v Speaker 1>The medicine bottle shattered with such force that it must

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<v Speaker 1>have been shoved, but by whom or what. When Nassau

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<v Speaker 1>County Detective Joseph Tauzy arrived at the Herman's house to investigate,

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<v Speaker 1>he made it clear that he didn't believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>supernatural ghost spirit specters all horseshit. Surely there was a

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable logical explanation for what was going on, perhaps a

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<v Speaker 1>high frequency radio transmission, a down draft in the home's chimney,

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<v Speaker 1>but unexplainable things continued to happen. The bottle of holy

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<v Speaker 1>water once again fell from the master bedroom bureau. When

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<v Speaker 1>James ran to retrieve it seconds after hearing it fall,

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<v Speaker 1>he found it hot to the touch. And later that

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<v Speaker 1>same day, James Junior and Lucille were watching TV when

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<v Speaker 1>a porcelain figure rose from a table, moved three feet

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<v Speaker 1>through the air, and fell to the floor. Detective Tozy

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<v Speaker 1>himself bore witness to some truly weird shit. It challenged

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<v Speaker 1>his logical just the fact's mind. He went home each

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<v Speaker 1>night and thought about all the ways he could try

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<v Speaker 1>to explain what he had seen. And the Hermans, on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, had seen too much, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>freaked the fuck out, so they got the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 1>On February twenty first, a little over two weeks since

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<v Speaker 1>they had begun to experience the inexplicable, they packed their

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<v Speaker 1>bags and went to stay with a relative, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were gone for two days. No supernatural activity was detected

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<v Speaker 1>at their home while they were away, and now did

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<v Speaker 1>anything out of the ordinary happen at the relatives' house

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<v Speaker 1>where they were staying. When they returned to sixteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight Redwood Path on the evening of February twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>they were greeted by a flying sugar bowl. An eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>inch statue of the Virgin Mary rose from a bureau

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<v Speaker 1>and sword twelve feet through the air. A large bureau

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<v Speaker 1>tipped over in James Junior's room, a record player weighing

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<v Speaker 1>ten pounds rose from a table and traveled fifteen feet

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<v Speaker 1>across the room. The Herman's predicament became a local, even

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<v Speaker 1>national sensation. People all over the country wrote letters, made

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls, even showed up the Herman's home to play

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<v Speaker 1>armchair ghostbuster. A priest performed a blessing. Another so called

0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.880
<v Speaker 1>holy man conducted a ritual to cleanse the house. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people blamed aliens, others said it was communists. A marche

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<v Speaker 1>F fifty eight profile of the Hermans in Life magazine

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<v Speaker 1>raised another possible suspect, James Junior. The article reported the

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<v Speaker 1>quote in the Annals of Poltergeist, it has been consistently

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<v Speaker 1>noted that the mysterious motion of objects has taken place

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<v Speaker 1>in households containing adolescent children. It further reported that James

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<v Speaker 1>Junior was often nearby when bottles popped in porcelain figures

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<v Speaker 1>hovered midair. Doctor J. Pratt, a psychologist from Duke University's

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<v Speaker 1>Parapsychology Laboratory, made the trip to New York from North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>to investigate whether or not James Junior's mind was indeed

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<v Speaker 1>influencing matter. Like detective Tozy, Doctor Pratt didn't believe in ghosts,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did believe that some people were able to

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, animate otherwise inanimate objects with their own minds

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<v Speaker 1>without even knowing it. It is within the realm of possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Pratt once said that if eight million New Yorkers

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<v Speaker 1>at one time concentrated on moving the Empire Higher State Building,

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<v Speaker 1>it might move a bit. Doctor Pratt was in Seaford

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<v Speaker 1>for three days, and nothing moved on its own, not

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<v Speaker 1>the Empire State Building, not even a decorative porcelain figurine.

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as he left to return to North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>it all started up again. Unlike the movies, there was

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<v Speaker 1>no tidy ending to explain the paranormal activity occurring in

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<v Speaker 1>the Herman's Long Island home. There was no discovery of

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<v Speaker 1>an ancient burial ground beneath the house's foundation, no four

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<v Speaker 1>foot three spiritual medium named Tangina who was able to

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<v Speaker 1>detect an unsettling dark presence called the Beast, no portal

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<v Speaker 1>to another sphere of consciousness that douses those who pass

0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.679
<v Speaker 1>through it with a sloppy layer of ectoplasm. Those, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>were Hollywood embellishments to the true story of the hermans

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty eight haunting, and that true story was used

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<v Speaker 1>nearly twenty five years later, as that's the basis for

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<v Speaker 1>the Poltergeist screenplay written by Steven Spielberg. Michael Grayis and

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Victor in the movie Carol Anne Freeling played by

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<v Speaker 1>five year old newcomer Heather O'Rourke, the one Spielberg met

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<v Speaker 1>in the MGM Commissary is the manifestation of Life magazine

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<v Speaker 1>psychokinetic child. She doesn't move objects with her mind, but

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<v Speaker 1>she is clairvoyant and communicates with ghosts directly through the

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<v Speaker 1>family's TV set. Heather talked to the TV set the

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<v Speaker 1>way she talked to her stuffed animals and dolls. It

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<v Speaker 1>was make believe. She knew not to be scared for real.

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<v Speaker 1>Her performance, however, in the movie as a whole, scared

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<v Speaker 1>the pants off audiences in the summer of nineteen eighty two.

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<v Speaker 1>It also scared up some serious box office box throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the summer of eighty two, and well it's the fall.

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<v Speaker 1>For twenty four weeks, Poltergeist raked in more than seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five million in domestic gross. That said, the number was

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<v Speaker 1>peanuts compared to the money that the other Out of

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<v Speaker 1>This World Steven Spielberg blockbuster made when e T was

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<v Speaker 1>released the very next week. One cast member in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>was never able to see Poltergeist reach its full box

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<v Speaker 1>office potential when she was cast as he yelled this

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<v Speaker 1>freeling sibling. Dominique Dunn was a twenty two year old

0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.520
<v Speaker 1>actress with a handful of TV roles under her belt.

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<v Speaker 1>Poltergeist was Dominique's first movie role, in her big Hollywood break.

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<v Speaker 1>Her potential as one of the decades defining scream queens

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<v Speaker 1>was palpable. Audiences loved her. One person in particular professed

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<v Speaker 1>to love her more than anyone else. But Dominique knew

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<v Speaker 1>that John Thomas Sweeney was confusing love with obsession, which

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<v Speaker 1>was why she broke the relationship off. Sweeney was more

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<v Speaker 1>than just jealous and possessive. He was volatile, unhinged. Even

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<v Speaker 1>in August, when Poltergeist was putting fear in the hearts

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<v Speaker 1>of moviegoers, Dominique was busy dealing with the horror film

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<v Speaker 1>that was her life. During an argument, Sweeney grabbed Dominique

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.200
<v Speaker 1>by the hair and pulled so hard that he ripped

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<v Speaker 1>out a chunk by the roots. Dominique wrote Sweeny a letter,

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<v Speaker 1>but never sent it. We are not compatible. It red.

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<v Speaker 1>When we are good, we are great, But when we

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<v Speaker 1>are bad we are horrendous. The bad outwetes the good,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is made me realize how scared I

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<v Speaker 1>am of you. A month later, against their better judgment,

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Dominique was living with Sweeney again. Around three am one night,

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<v Speaker 1>they fought again. Sweeney wrapped his hands around Dominique's neck

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<v Speaker 1>and the two fell to the floor. He was on

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<v Speaker 1>top of her. He squeezed tight and Dominique struggled. She

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<v Speaker 1>managed to escape. She scrambled out of the house of

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom window. Sweeney heard her car start up and

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<v Speaker 1>ran outside. Suddenly he was in front of the car,

0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.679
<v Speaker 1>but Dominique smashed her foot into the gas pedal. Sweeney

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<v Speaker 1>jumped out of the way to avoid getting hit, and

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<v Speaker 1>the car sped off into the La darkness. Dominique Dunn

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<v Speaker 1>escaped for their life at least that time, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was no escaping the fear she lived with constantly. She

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<v Speaker 1>hit out at her friend's house. She only showed her

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<v Speaker 1>face in town when she was one hundred percent sure

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<v Speaker 1>that Sweeney was at work. It wasn't ghosts or an

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<v Speaker 1>unsettled dark presence that would come for Dominique Dunn, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was a beast, and not a make believe beast either.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're We're where.

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<v Speaker 1>Dominique Dunn decided that she had left John Thomas Sweeney

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<v Speaker 1>for the last time. She didn't care that he was

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<v Speaker 1>the right hand man to fame chef Wolfgame Puck in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen of the Shishi Mamaison restaurant on Melrose Avenue,

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<v Speaker 1>or that he continued to profess his undying love and

0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:01.600
<v Speaker 1>remorse with a fistful of flowers. In actuality, he did

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<v Speaker 1>more evil with those fists than prepping food and carrying flowers.

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Dominique cared about her own safety. She cared about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, when she filmed the cameo was a victim

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 1>of abuse on the gritty TV cop drama Hill Street Blues.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't need any makeup to look battered. The black

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<v Speaker 1>and blue bruises on her neck that she wore to

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<v Speaker 1>set were real. Every time she looked in the mirror,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a reminder of that cycle of violence that

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<v Speaker 1>she continued to fall into, and she wanted out. October thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty two, eight thirty pm, Poltergeist was still showing

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<v Speaker 1>well at movie theaters across the country, even if it

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<v Speaker 1>had slipped from the upper echelonne of the box office.

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<v Speaker 1>While movies like First Blood and An Officer and a

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<v Speaker 1>Gentleman Dominated, not to mention Spielberg's et, which was well

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<v Speaker 1>on its way to becoming the year's runaway smash, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter much to Dominique Donne. She was already moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>prepping for the next thing, the next big success. Dominique

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<v Speaker 1>was at her one bedroom home on Rangeley Avenue in

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<v Speaker 1>West Hollywood, the same one she had once shared with

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 1>John Thomas Sweeney. She was running lines with fellow actor

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>David Packer for the pilot of a new TV mini

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>series called V. Dominique and David paused when they heard

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<v Speaker 1>a car pull up outside the house. A car door

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<v Speaker 1>opened and slammed shut. A voice, A knock. Fuck. She

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 1>knew it was Sweeney again, always fucking Sweeney. Dominique opened

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>the front door, but left the door chain attached. She

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>looked through the two inch gap and saw Sweeney staring

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<v Speaker 1>back at her. He said he wanted to talk. He

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<v Speaker 1>was worked up, out of breath. She wasn't about to

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<v Speaker 1>let him inside, but she knew she had to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of him. She hoped she could reason with him.

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<v Speaker 1>She told David to wait inside. She undid the door

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<v Speaker 1>Jean walked out onto the porch and closed the door

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<v Speaker 1>behind her, looked over the script in his hands and

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<v Speaker 1>began to run lines on his own. He could hear

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Dominique and swing He talking outside. Their voices slowly began

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<v Speaker 1>to escalate. Sweeney's voice erupted. It dominated the argument with

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>aggressive force. David could no longer concentrate on memorizing lines.

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't make out what they were saying, but he

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 1>knew it wasn't good. A loud, smacking sound made David

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 1>jump and sent chills down his spine, and another one

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<v Speaker 1>in the front of the house shook with each thud.

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<v Speaker 1>David couldn't see what was happening, but he knew someone

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>or something was hitting the house. It was rattling the windows.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a scream. Another scream, this one more blood curdling

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<v Speaker 1>than the last. It horrified David. The screams were followed

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<v Speaker 1>by more thuds. David panicked. He picked up the phone

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<v Speaker 1>and called the police. Lapd responded and told him that

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<v Speaker 1>Rangeley Avenue, West Hollywood, that was out of their jurisdiction.

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Nothing they could do out of their jurisdiction. David couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe he didn't have the number for the Sheriff's department

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<v Speaker 1>off hand. Lapd wasn't in a call forwarding kind of mood,

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<v Speaker 1>and David was terrified to open the front door. He

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>decided to slip up the back door, and as he

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<v Speaker 1>came up the side of the house and approached the driveway,

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<v Speaker 1>he saw Sweeney trying to blend in with the bushes

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>but failing, crouching hiding like the cowardly piece of shit

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>animal that he was, and then David saw Dominique lying

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>lifeless in the driveway. On November fourth, Dominique Dunn was

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>taken off life support at Cedar Sinai. Her funeral was

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>two days later. Four to six minutes that's how long

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>medical examiners estimated John Thomas Sweeney strangled Dominique Dunn outside

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>her West Hollywood house four to six minutes. The prosecuting

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>attorney opened Sweeney's murder trial by letting a stopwatch run

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<v Speaker 1>for an agonizing four minutes to drive the point at home.

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<v Speaker 1>But despite those chilling four minutes of silence, justice did

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<v Speaker 1>not prevail. First, the judge would not allow another of

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<v Speaker 1>Sweeney's former living girlfriends to testify about the ten times

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>he had beaten her during their relationship. About how Sweeney

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>broke her nose, punctured ear drum, collapsed or lung. The

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>judge said, quote the law says you judge a person

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<v Speaker 1>for his acts and not for the kind of person

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<v Speaker 1>he has been in the past. To make matters even worse,

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>the judge then granted the defense's motion to reduce the

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>charge from first degree murder to manslaughter. In the defense's eyes,

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 1>the killing was not premeditated. It was committed in the

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>heat of passion. Despite their personal views on the matter,

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>members of the jury had to deliver a verdict within

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<v Speaker 1>the strict confines they were being presented. Sweeney was saved

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<v Speaker 1>by the law. He got a max of six years,

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<v Speaker 1>but wound up serving lightly less than three years eight months.

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<v Speaker 1>To Dominique's family, it was a miscarriage of justice. The trial,

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.679
<v Speaker 1>the sentence, the time, all of it. It defiled the

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>memory of their daughter, The tragic loss of Dominique Dunn,

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 1>and the travesty of justice would haunt them for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of their lives. When John Thomas Sweeney was released

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>from his appallingly short prison stay in nineteen eighty six, coincidentally,

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>perhaps it was around the same time that the sequel

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>to Poltergeist hit movie theaters. Steven Spielberg didn't return to

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.439
<v Speaker 1>co writer produce Poltergeist Too the other side, but the

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>other original screenwriters did return, as did the majority of

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>the original cast. Heather o'rouric, now ten years old, was

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>back as Carol Anne. Since she was so young in

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>her exposure to the media was kept to a bare minimum.

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>There was very little documentation of how much Dominique Dunn's

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>death impacted Heather on or off the set. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>a little documentation to back up the rumors about strange

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>occurrences that once again were reported to have happened during

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the sequel's production, like the one that an actual exorcism

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was performed in order to cleanse the set of evil spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>While Poltergeist Io retains a cult status among diehard movie fans,

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>it certainly wasn't the same phenomenon the second time around.

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>It barely made half the amount of money as the

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 1>first installment, but there was one eerie similarity between the

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:34.640
<v Speaker 1>first and second Poltergeist. A few months before Poltergeist Too

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>was released, Julian Beck, the veteran actor who co starred

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>in the sequel as Reverend Harry Kane aka Evil Incarnate,

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>succumbed to stomach cancer at the age of sixty and

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<v Speaker 1>then in June nineteen eighty seven, a little over a

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>year after the sequel came out, another of its co stars,

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Will Sampson, who played the Native American shaman protecting the

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>family from Harry Kane's Our Normal Voodoo, died at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three from post operative kidney failure. Like the unexplained activity

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that had taken place nearly thirty years earlier at the

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Herman family home in Long Island. The fact that three

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>actors died shortly after making Poltergeist films began to make

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>people wonder was it all just a coincidence, a random tragedy,

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>or was there something more, something that couldn't be seen.

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>When principal photography wrapped up for Poltergeist three in the

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>summer of nineteen eighty seven, Heather O'Rourke went home to

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Big Bear Lake in California. That winter, she turned twelve

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 1>years old, she began to prepare for the press junkid

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<v Speaker 1>that would precede the third movie's Hollywood premiere, But Heather

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>O'Rourke never made it to the premiere. She never even

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to see the finished movie. What happened

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<v Speaker 1>next turned a series of strange coincidences into a widespread

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>theory that the Holtergeist movie franchise, just like the Herman's

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<v Speaker 1>Long Island Home, was cursed. March twenty second, nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Lawson was still upside down. The entire plane was

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>still upside down. US Air Flight four H five was

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>currently inverted in Flushing Bay. The runway lights of LaGuardia

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>flashed in the rear distance, and the snow continued to

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>fall sideways. Inside the plane, it was all blackness. The

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>water was on its way in, the oxygen was on

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<v Speaker 1>its way out. It was all happening way too fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Richards struggled to free himself, but he couldn't move. His

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>head was stuck. What were these two objects pinning his

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>body down? See to maybe other passengers. He was trapped.

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>He was going to die. Up until this moment, he

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>had thought it was all bullshit, All that stuff about

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the so called Poltergeist curse, the one that had claimed

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>four actors from the three films. Fucked that curses were

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>make believe those tragedies were real. Dominie Dunn died at

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the hands of a violent abuser. Julian Sands had cancer.

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Will Samson suffered complications from surgery. Heather, a uroric well

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>that had come out of left field, shocked everyone. They

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>all thought she had a nasty case of the flu.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Her family, the doctors, but her heart stopped on the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the hospital. They were able to revive her,

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and life lighted her to the Children's Hospital in San Diego.

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>She died on the operating table before the doctors could help,

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't even know where to begin. No one

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>knew that she had been born with the burn defect

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that made a section of her intestine abnormally narrow. She

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the flu. She suffered a bowel obstruction that

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>sent bacterial toxins into her blood stream. She died from

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:15.719
<v Speaker 1>a shock caused by infection of her blood. The doctor

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>said that Heather's death was very unusual because she never

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>exhibited symptoms that anything was amiss at any point in

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>her life. The problem seemed to have come from nowhere.

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Insights like those drove the curse conspiracy theorists wild, but

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Richard Lawson put little credence into any conspiracy theory, especially

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>one that connected all of these tragedies until now. Because

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>even though his role as a parapsychologist in the first

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Poltergeist movie was a small role, Richard had nonetheless acted

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>in a Poltergeist movie, and like four other actors before him,

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>he now found himself staring down an unexpected death. This

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>was his fate. He knew it now. He had been

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>foolish to doubt it in the past. He accepted what

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>was about to happen. He ceased to struggle. He wanted

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to die with the spirit of peace. He wanted the

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>people who loved him on the other side of the

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>wreckage to know that he was okay, that he hadn't

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>died afraid. He continued to hold his breath under water

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and was about to finally let it all go, one

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>giant exhale and done, when something came over him. He

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>felt a sensation take over his body. It was warm, friendly,

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the opposite of fear. The sensation enveloped his entire body,

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>from the top of his head to the bottom of

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>his toes, and he heard a voice say, get out

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of here. Take your seatbelt off and get out of here.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Richard put his hands on his belt buckle and released it.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>He felt the seat belt release from around his waist.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Get out of here, now, Richard. He put his hands

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<v Speaker 1>on the things that had trapped him in place for minutes,

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>things that had been on moor before. Now they easily

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>moved the side with the gentlest of touches from his hands.

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>He could hardly believe it. His body began to move.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>He didn't know if it was up or down. He

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to find an air pocket. When his head

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>finally surfaced, the twisted wreckage below his feet kicking and

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>thrusting him towards salvation. He took a deep breath. He

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>inhaled bay water and jet fuel and spat it back out.

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:29.919
<v Speaker 1>He looked up in an arm and reached down through

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>a hole in the side of the plane. He couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see who it was attached to, if it was a

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>man or a woman, a first responder or another passenger.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>He just saw the arm, and the hand at the

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>end of that arm was reaching out just for him.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Let me help you, a voice said, and with that

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Richard was hoisted from a watery grave to a place

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.240
<v Speaker 1>where the snow and wind where so cold, you knew

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you were alive. Twenty seven people died in the crash

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>US Air flight four or five that day. Richard Lawson

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 1>later learned that at least one of those deaths had

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>been a passenger sitting in row six, back in coach

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>where he was originally assigned. If that wasn't a sign,

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>he didn't know what was. His life hadn't been taken

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>by some evil spirit. It had been saved by a

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>benevolent force, something unexplainable, the kind of thing that made

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the hair stand up on the back of your neck

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and the skin on your arms tingle. Who or what

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 1>that thing was it was impossible to know. But curses, Nah,

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>curses aren't real. Just ask the Herman family in Long

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 1>Island back in nineteen fifty eight. They eventually moved out

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>of their supposedly haunted house and never experienced another paranormal event. Again,

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>evil spirits didn't follow them. Maybe it was just some

0:35:56.320 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>unknown natural phenomenon, or maybe someone playing some sort of

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 1>sick joke on them, which would of course be a disgrace.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jake Brennan. This this disgraceland. All right, Poulter, Guys, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to rewatch this now. I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are too. As I mentioned in the a Bloc, this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>the original one anyways, scared the hell out of me

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid. So this week's question of the week

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<v Speaker 1>is which movie do you remember scaring the hell out

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<v Speaker 1>of you as a child and why? I want to know?

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