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Speaker 1: Season seventeen, Episode number seventeen. Welcome the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break Life in the s WBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star and Nick, all right, give me a seventeen
Speaker 1: seventeen about Quincy Carter. All right, it's Quincy car today
Speaker 1: here on the Break. Thank you, Jason Jeyer, Quincy Carter,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore all right, Okay, I think it's the most
Speaker 1: fascinating number in Cowboy's history. If you really did love
Speaker 1: when Nick has takes, like if you were gonna do
Speaker 1: a documentary on a number seventeen would be a good one. Yes.
Speaker 1: So you know, you guys know, Nick has been pitching
Speaker 1: this idea of doing a documentary on the number seventeen
Speaker 1: for a while. I think so I think there's some
Speaker 1: very interesting players and interesting stories that have come from
Speaker 1: seventeen and not to derail not Sam Hurts, Sam Hurd
Speaker 1: and Don Meredith and Quincy Carter and Harold Carmarchael. Yeah, okay, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know about Dwayne Harris. I don't know what
Speaker 1: he really did, but it's a pretty decent player. Decent players,
Speaker 1: better player, better player when he left. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty good for Oakland for what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: he was a pretty good player here too, So he
Speaker 1: was a rare player of it that could return kicks,
Speaker 1: return punts, and recover. Yeah, it was a pretty good
Speaker 1: at it, you know. So all right, let's just think
Speaker 1: Dwayne Harris would be talked about it. No, I when
Speaker 1: we do stuff like this, I just imagine the guy
Speaker 1: who just he needs to know about Zach Martin status
Speaker 1: and we're like, yeah, Quincy Carter, let's talk about him. Sorry, everybody,
Speaker 1: He'll be okay, Yeah, I know he'll be okay. All right,
Speaker 1: so let's jump in. We do need to talk about
Speaker 1: Zach Martin. Obviously, the news was out days ago. Zach
Speaker 1: Martin tested positive for COVID. He is now on the
Speaker 1: on the COVID list. Jerry kind of suggested yesterday and
Speaker 1: then again today that there's still a chance, like there's
Speaker 1: still a chance that maybe he could possibly play this week.
Speaker 1: What are we hearing right now? What do we think
Speaker 1: is his status at this point with regards him playing
Speaker 1: on Thursday. It's the doors just like cracked open and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys refused to close it. Okay, I mean, we
Speaker 1: can joke about doctor Jerry all we want. But Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy's the same way. Like he I just got back
Speaker 1: from his press conference, and the reporters were more or
Speaker 1: less like, tell us that Zach is out. Tell like,
Speaker 1: give us the clarity that this is done. And he
Speaker 1: was like if and Mike literally said, if any player
Speaker 1: is capable of getting on a plane Thursday morning without
Speaker 1: having done anything and playing against the Bucks, it's Zack Martin.
Speaker 1: I mean that should make your eyebrows rates. He did
Speaker 1: come back again. You know, this is a big story.
Speaker 1: He was asked a few follow ups and pressed to clarify,
Speaker 1: and he was like, I do not think he is
Speaker 1: going to play. That's what that's a direct quote. I
Speaker 1: do not think Zack's going to play. But he didn't
Speaker 1: rule it out entirely. Um, I would rule him out.
Speaker 1: If it was me, I would rule him out. Is
Speaker 1: this some gamesmanship going on here? Is that? What do
Speaker 1: you think? It's just the optimism maybe, But let's also
Speaker 1: remember this. He tested positive for it, okay, so he
Speaker 1: has it Ceedee Lamb just said too yet two days
Speaker 1: ago that he finally felt like back to normal again
Speaker 1: after being out for like a week. So like we're
Speaker 1: worried about tests here and positive and all this. Can
Speaker 1: he fly up to the game. He still had COVID,
Speaker 1: He still had, you know, and it's something he has
Speaker 1: to deal with. And so I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not the doctor and all that stuff, but I
Speaker 1: just feel like and we're gonna find out, I mean,
Speaker 1: or they will find out today, like in an hour
Speaker 1: or two, because you gotta pass two tests in a
Speaker 1: brow so he's got to pass one today and you
Speaker 1: don't have to get tomorrow just in order to get there.
Speaker 1: So we'll find out. It's not going to be one
Speaker 1: of those game time divisions. So is it not explained
Speaker 1: this because we did have a tweet from Joe Franziu
Speaker 1: say and explained the two negative tests. So it's not
Speaker 1: as of tomorrow, Like he can't have his first pass
Speaker 1: tomorrow and then pass thirty. Didn't jump on a plane, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think. Okay, it's two negative tests spanned out
Speaker 1: over the course of forty eight hours. What you just
Speaker 1: suggested would be two over twenty four, got it, okay,
Speaker 1: So you would need so so as of today, we
Speaker 1: will know by tomorrow whether it's even a possibility. If
Speaker 1: he didn't get a negative test today, there's no way
Speaker 1: it works. Well. We also don't know too, is he
Speaker 1: is he talking to our our training staf and saying
Speaker 1: my throat hurts or I've got whatever issue whatever. The
Speaker 1: negative symptom free and the negative tests only come into
Speaker 1: play once you don't have symptoms. And the report Sunday
Speaker 1: was that he had symptoms, like he had a loss
Speaker 1: of taste or smell. I think so, yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what makes it seem so unlikely, is like if
Speaker 1: you're a close contact and then you get your tests,
Speaker 1: then we're good to go. And I think that's a
Speaker 1: really good point that I've been thinking about this whole time.
Speaker 1: Is you know we do this all we do this
Speaker 1: almost every week. Like DeMarcus wears you know, famously playing
Speaker 1: against the Saints. After all, this isn't that, this is
Speaker 1: a illness, you know. I mean, yeah, if you're throne
Speaker 1: hurts or you don't have the proper lung capacity, shouldn't
Speaker 1: be playing football and probably no, definitely obviously, yeah, but
Speaker 1: definitely no, definitely And then and then you know, you
Speaker 1: got to get the negative tests, like this isn't a
Speaker 1: matter of fighting through a stinger. This is you have
Speaker 1: to get the test to say, well, you need to say.
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you. It's easy to get
Speaker 1: wrapped up in the drama of like, well, they could
Speaker 1: put him on a plane, and it's like, is this
Speaker 1: really the best idea, especially seventeen game season, Let's maybe
Speaker 1: just maybe chill. I mean, it's gonna be a challenge,
Speaker 1: of course. I mean Calum McGovern to start and start
Speaker 1: against those guys and a suit and be the VEA
Speaker 1: and oh it's yeah, I mean it's it's it's an
Speaker 1: uphill battle for sure. But I just I think it
Speaker 1: would be smart for everyone. Once he is ruled out,
Speaker 1: let let let us run its course. It's gonna do
Speaker 1: whatever it does. I just feel like we'll find out today.
Speaker 1: He'll probably be out. That's my guests as well. But
Speaker 1: I do think it's really interesting that the decision makers
Speaker 1: in the organization are not quite ready to rule it out.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, to be honest with you, until there
Speaker 1: is until he's ruled out, and I would be like them,
Speaker 1: I would be like, there is a small chance, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold out hope because I think we all
Speaker 1: know how valuable he is to what they want to do.
Speaker 1: That's all I was gonna say. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: breaking news here, but how damn good do you have
Speaker 1: to be to be a guard and to start off
Speaker 1: a show like this and talking about is he gonna play?
Speaker 1: Is he not going to play? From the guard position?
Speaker 1: You gotta be a damn good player, and he is.
Speaker 1: He is that. That just goes to show from the
Speaker 1: day he got here he is a he is a guard.
Speaker 1: And when the news came down on Sunday that he
Speaker 1: had tested positive, like my whole Twitter timeline was, everybody's like,
Speaker 1: we're screwed. This game over and it's like, yeah, you're right, Like,
Speaker 1: you gotta be pretty good for people to think that
Speaker 1: highly of your impact on the game. I was driving
Speaker 1: home and heard that it was a national radio thing.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what chance. It was just national
Speaker 1: thing that a little ticker you know this, you know,
Speaker 1: my Mets did this, and so and so did this
Speaker 1: and this college thing and this guy's out and and
Speaker 1: it was like a cowboys are at all Zach Martin is,
Speaker 1: you know, tested positive and he will miss the game.
Speaker 1: And it was just kind of this last little line.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's cool that he made the news, but
Speaker 1: it's just you hear that stuff all the time and
Speaker 1: you think, uh, it sucks for him, but like living
Speaker 1: in it here, it's like, man, like the world's ending.
Speaker 1: He's high up on the list of guys you'd probably
Speaker 1: want to be able to play this game. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: there are only two guys in my opinion on this
Speaker 1: team that would have been a bigger blow for the
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith and Dak Prescott. Exactly right, That's exactly right,
Speaker 1: and more Tyrn because of the position he plays not
Speaker 1: as well, Like I think why the reason why I
Speaker 1: say that, I think Zach is a better player, but
Speaker 1: I think the position that Zach, the position that Tyron plays,
Speaker 1: means you have to have him here. I looked at
Speaker 1: I looked at you sideways because I thought you were
Speaker 1: saying you'd rather have Tyrn for this game than Dak.
Speaker 1: I was like, Andy Dalton main here anymore. That's not
Speaker 1: what I was saying. No, that's not what I was saying.
Speaker 1: I was saying, those are the only two players I
Speaker 1: look at on this team that would have been a
Speaker 1: bigger blow had they lost them going into the skin.
Speaker 1: It's all about It's all about the If you just
Speaker 1: put them all on the board and say where are
Speaker 1: they and then where's their backup? There's not there's those
Speaker 1: three positions have the biggest drop off because they're that good.
Speaker 1: From quarterback to the backup, from the left tackle to
Speaker 1: the backup, from the guard to the backup. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know DeMarcus Lawrence to his backup is who like
Speaker 1: Doren's Armstrong, And it's a it's a considerable drop. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you can function, you can function, and
Speaker 1: Zeke to to Pollard, any receivers to those guys, you
Speaker 1: can function better. Those are the ones that goes to
Speaker 1: show how good they are. And also the backup is
Speaker 1: not because at this time a year ago, Dak to
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is certainly not the biggest, bigger gap than
Speaker 1: it is to Cooper Rush. Sure, So so answer this
Speaker 1: for me, how much does this change your expectation of
Speaker 1: what Dallas can do offensively this week? I mean, we
Speaker 1: know it's it's it's you're one of your best players,
Speaker 1: if not your best player, But it is the guard
Speaker 1: position where sometimes you can kind of absorb that a
Speaker 1: little easier, let's say, than a tackle being out. How
Speaker 1: much do you think that affects what they can do offensively? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they asked me. I asked, I gotta asked that this morning.
Speaker 1: I don't and I think the world is Zach Martin,
Speaker 1: but I don't think this is a loss that just
Speaker 1: drastically alters what I want to do because and this
Speaker 1: is it's bad. I get these are two great defensive tackles.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're gonna be fine, but it
Speaker 1: gets dirty in there. You can double team, you can
Speaker 1: have Tyler Biadash helped Connor McGovern out, and you know,
Speaker 1: tight ends and running backs can help tackles. But in
Speaker 1: my experience, when this team has lost the starting tackle,
Speaker 1: that's when we've really seen stuff go south. And part
Speaker 1: of me thinks like yeah, but pressure up the middle
Speaker 1: is the quickest way to get to a quarterback. It's
Speaker 1: the quickest way to move him off his spot. Dak's
Speaker 1: athletic enough to deal with and you know, if somebody
Speaker 1: breaks free on the right side or the left side,
Speaker 1: he can make do with that. I get that argument,
Speaker 1: but I think the options in the ways that you
Speaker 1: can kind of muddy that stuff up in the middle,
Speaker 1: And the fact that Connor McGovern did start eight games
Speaker 1: last year, he's not this isn't his first rodeo, So
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to just drastically alter the
Speaker 1: game plan. Yeah, I do think that this has a
Speaker 1: potential to make them a lot more one dimensional, which
Speaker 1: is something they cannot be against the Bucks or any
Speaker 1: team really, And so that does worry me somewhat. You know,
Speaker 1: he's so great. It's not because he's out there win
Speaker 1: an iron Man contest for how strong he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Zach isn't strong, but I guarantee it's
Speaker 1: a combination of technique, strength, just understanding of what he's
Speaker 1: supposed to do, and he can help move people off
Speaker 1: the ball. That's what I worry about this team with
Speaker 1: Now you just look at the interior. Connor Williams never
Speaker 1: been the biggest, strongest guy, Tyler Beotish, don't know what
Speaker 1: he is yet, really still young. And then we got
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern same boat. Those are your three middle guys there.
Speaker 1: I just don't I just don't imagine on third and
Speaker 1: one they're gonna just be blowing those guys off the
Speaker 1: ball for a first down. That's what I worry about
Speaker 1: a little bit with you know, can they be is
Speaker 1: can they beat multidimensional? I don't know. Finance Lavante, David
Speaker 1: and Devin White are good enough as it is, but
Speaker 1: the amount that they blitz and have blitzed in the
Speaker 1: past against guys like that, I mean, it's like I said,
Speaker 1: it's it's problematic. I'm not trying to paint it otherwise.
Speaker 1: Huge game for the tight ends. Those tight ends have
Speaker 1: got to be for two reasons. Number one, they're going
Speaker 1: to be asked to do some blocking in there that's
Speaker 1: not their strong suit. But also hot routes. They're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna turn around from five yards shoult up the field,
Speaker 1: same with Jarman quick stuff like that. Those guys are
Speaker 1: gonna have to be ready because when they do blitz
Speaker 1: and that you know, when when Tampa brings all their
Speaker 1: exotic looks, those guys are gonna because you know on
Speaker 1: the outside, those they can win. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's a plus for the cow I mean, whoever they've
Speaker 1: got tampas their cornerbacks. The Cowboys have better receivers I
Speaker 1: think than Tampa does corners and saved. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: believe that that's the Cowboys win right there. But can
Speaker 1: they get will they be able to block long enough
Speaker 1: to get there? The tight ends are going to the
Speaker 1: ones that are probably gonna have a few catches and
Speaker 1: help move the chains. One other thing to note about
Speaker 1: this Indomican Sue, who is a guy that probably will
Speaker 1: we'll see a lot of Connor mc government. He's just
Speaker 1: coming off the COVID list himself. I think he was
Speaker 1: reactivated yesterday, has missed I think a little over a week,
Speaker 1: so there will be some questions about it. Is he
Speaker 1: feeling completely back to normal? Is his wind up to
Speaker 1: par playing in that hey there in Tampa Bay that
Speaker 1: could offset some of this a little bit. But again
Speaker 1: in Donma Kong Tou we all know is a great
Speaker 1: player and so no matter what, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: tough matchup from a governor. I know it, do it?
Speaker 1: We know it? Man who doesn't mean well, I don't know. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's I thought about that this week. It was Sue
Speaker 1: who bullied them in the playoffs a few years ago,
Speaker 1: more so than Aaron Donald. We talked about this a
Speaker 1: couple days ago. He's been a free agent like four times.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just doesn't ever see like a guy that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have ever looked at ever. And I'm just
Speaker 1: he just continually just plays on a different team and
Speaker 1: kicks their ass too. So I don't know. At some point,
Speaker 1: you know, at some point I would have signed Randy Moss,
Speaker 1: you know, after he keeps beating you all the time,
Speaker 1: I would have just had him on my team. Say
Speaker 1: this guy, we're gonna take our first break when we
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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump back in. We need to catch
Speaker 1: up on Cowboys versus Bucks Before that, real quick, give
Speaker 1: me an update on Lyle Collins. What's his status off
Speaker 1: the stinker? Status is good? Practiced full yesterday Mike McCarthy said,
Speaker 1: no problems coming out of it. Yesterday was a padded practice,
Speaker 1: So that's a good sign. He's gonna play just well.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see how that goes. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think him being available for this game completely
Speaker 1: alleviates my concerns. That was never my concern. Like, if
Speaker 1: you have a stinger ten days before a game and
Speaker 1: you've got all that time to rest up, I expect
Speaker 1: that you'll be fined by a game day. It's how
Speaker 1: well do you hold up once people start mashing you
Speaker 1: fifty five sixty sixty five seventy plays a game and
Speaker 1: then you got to turn around and do it ten Well,
Speaker 1: they'll have a longer week this week, but you know,
Speaker 1: my point six day of schedule. It's it's something that
Speaker 1: I want to keep an eye on. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to alarm anybody, but I've been through this before with
Speaker 1: other players. Stingers have a way of being a recurring issue.
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna play, hopefully, it holds up
Speaker 1: really really well. What about Tyan sec He was the
Speaker 1: only guy that showed up on the on the Mike
Speaker 1: McCarty says, he's fine, he's limited, but he's thirty six
Speaker 1: years old. I think guys like that kind of manage him.
Speaker 1: He's fine. They send a new um injury report. It
Speaker 1: was actually two guys. Chauncey Gholston another one they did,
Speaker 1: which we kind of expected. They said he was full,
Speaker 1: and I my eyebrows like shot up. I was like,
Speaker 1: he was full. I would just get full. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: one of your inactives if you want to play the
Speaker 1: inactive game, which isn't as fun as it used to be. Different.
Speaker 1: It's different roster numbers now, you know, you don't even
Speaker 1: know how many guys are on the team because they
Speaker 1: can elevate different players. They're going to elevate two guys
Speaker 1: tomorrow from the practice squad to the roster. And if
Speaker 1: I was a betting man, I would say Darry and
Speaker 1: Thompson and Jeremy Sprinkle are probably the guys on that list.
Speaker 1: Seem like great bets to me. All right, let's jump
Speaker 1: into to Cowboys versus Buccaneers. Uh, this Buccaneers team. As
Speaker 1: you start looking at them on paper, like, it's very,
Speaker 1: very impressive. Not only did they win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: the first time in the salary cap era that a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team has returned twenty two starters. So basically,
Speaker 1: they're running it back, really running it back with the
Speaker 1: same guys that just won the Super Bowl last year.
Speaker 1: They scored thirty plus points in their last six games
Speaker 1: straight and eleven times during the twenty twenty season. What
Speaker 1: do you think is the most important key for the
Speaker 1: Dallas defense to be able to win Thursday? Get a
Speaker 1: turnover or six, No, get some turnovers, I mean, get
Speaker 1: get a few plays. I mean you have to you
Speaker 1: have hard to do Tom to throw it away off well,
Speaker 1: I mean rip the ball out then, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. That's what they have to do.
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neill was brought in to do those things. Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons was brought in to do those things. And we
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of that in the preseason, a
Speaker 1: small sample size there, but we did see Kean Onneon
Speaker 1: on that Arizona game get the ball out. We saw
Speaker 1: the ball on the ground and Parsons went and got
Speaker 1: it take advantage of those things because just just you know,
Speaker 1: there's some quarterback you played Ben, but don't break. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady will kill you if you do that, because he'll
Speaker 1: just say, okay, I'll just take my eight yard take
Speaker 1: a drive without me. So they're gonna have to to,
Speaker 1: you know, win those battles that they can win and
Speaker 1: get the ball out. And I'm not saying you have
Speaker 1: to get lucky, but like we said, this is an
Speaker 1: uphill battle. You have to do things unorthodox to win
Speaker 1: this game. And that's gonna be some turnovers and making
Speaker 1: some plays and then cashing in on that when you do.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with anything you just said, and I
Speaker 1: agree Ben don't break isn't going to work against Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I can't help but think
Speaker 1: about how easy this defense made it on opponents last
Speaker 1: year at times with the broken place, and that's with
Speaker 1: this receiver corps and a quarterback who's hard to rattle
Speaker 1: and knows how to take advantage of guys. I just
Speaker 1: worry about that, and I think you gotta be aggressive.
Speaker 1: That's a hard middle ground to strike because you gotta
Speaker 1: be aggressive. I would like to blitz Tom and make
Speaker 1: him uncomfortable. That's why Michael Parsons is here. Kean O'Neil
Speaker 1: can do some of that stuff. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you're I mean, if you're giving you know, if you're
Speaker 1: giving up two play scoring drives, two plays seventy five
Speaker 1: yards Antonio Brown. I'm just thinking about like Christian Kerr
Speaker 1: last year and what the Seahawks did to them. You're
Speaker 1: not winning that way either. You got to make them
Speaker 1: work for it, is my point. So just maybe time
Speaker 1: that stuff really well, like look for the right opportunities
Speaker 1: to take those chances, because I think this is going
Speaker 1: to be a big enough problem if you're not giving
Speaker 1: up easy points, and I just frankly, I'll be surprised
Speaker 1: if they don't, if they don't have like a single
Speaker 1: bust that leads to an easy touchdown, I'll be impressed.
Speaker 1: You think both those things can be true in some respects.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is because I
Speaker 1: agree with both of you that this is a game
Speaker 1: where you gotta be a little more aggressive. But in
Speaker 1: being aggressive, that means sometimes you might swing and miss,
Speaker 1: which means you could give up a big play. But
Speaker 1: I think that's also necessary. I think if you're gonna
Speaker 1: win this kind of game, you're gonna have to be aggressive,
Speaker 1: which means you might have to give some up some back.
Speaker 1: That that's on dan Quinn to find that balance, because
Speaker 1: I don't think you can afford to just throw the
Speaker 1: kitchen sink at Brady all the time and hope that
Speaker 1: you get home every time. But when you take those shots,
Speaker 1: they've got to work, they I mean, and that's have fun.
Speaker 1: That's why you make that much money. I guess. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a perfect answer to that. I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna see. You know, we haven't really seen what
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's can do yet. I mean, I hope not,
Speaker 1: because I mean, that's that's not the point of the
Speaker 1: preseason is to go out there and let those guys
Speaker 1: run around. But from a you know, exotic scheme, blitz
Speaker 1: is all that I do think you're gonna see guys
Speaker 1: coming from all different areas and it's gonna speak to
Speaker 1: the versatility of your other guys. You know, when when
Speaker 1: a d law or Gregory drops into coverage, can they
Speaker 1: do that because because Jalen's blitzing or Ylan Layton leylan
Speaker 1: Leyla Yeah, Um, if you can combine those two guys
Speaker 1: into Leyland, I mean, there'd be a damn good player
Speaker 1: of Leyland. But no, I mean, but but Layton and
Speaker 1: and Mike and all those guys. You're just gonna see
Speaker 1: it coming from different directions. And you know when when
Speaker 1: when somebody's asked to do something that's out of their realm,
Speaker 1: like a press rusher to cover or vice versa, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to They're gonna have to do it with
Speaker 1: no drop off. And I think that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: biggest key here. I can't help but think about when
Speaker 1: they announced the number change rule. Tom Brady was pissed
Speaker 1: he didn't like, which I thought was hilarious because he's
Speaker 1: like the greatest ever. Surely he can identify the mic
Speaker 1: no matter what they're wearing. But cowboys gotten eleven, they
Speaker 1: got a nine, they got a corner playing seven, they
Speaker 1: got some goofy stuff out there that might jump in there,
Speaker 1: and eighteen at safety. Let's get just different, Let's get
Speaker 1: whacky with it. Let's get whacky with it and try
Speaker 1: to Yeah, I'm being tongue in cheek, like, I really
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna help confuse the best to ever
Speaker 1: do it. He didn't like it. He didn't like it,
Speaker 1: and every little bit of help something. Honestly, I just
Speaker 1: think it's probably for him. It's just like I have
Speaker 1: a way I do things, and and so this is
Speaker 1: gonna cool force me to do something different. I gotta
Speaker 1: look at things a little differently than I have for
Speaker 1: the last who knows, like since most of us were
Speaker 1: young men, like you've been doing this for a long
Speaker 1: time as a change, you know. All right, Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the other side of the ball. Tampa Bay last
Speaker 1: year was top rushing defense in the league. They didn't
Speaker 1: give up a lot of yards on the ground. You've
Speaker 1: lost your offensive lineman, your best offensive lineman. What's the
Speaker 1: most important key for the Cowboys offense to be successful?
Speaker 1: Communication among the offensive line? Probably Tyler Beotich has only
Speaker 1: started four games. Zach Martin is probably not going to play.
Speaker 1: So you've got Connor McGovern who would be making his
Speaker 1: ninth start, and Lyle Collins playing his first regular season
Speaker 1: game in two years because he was out all last year.
Speaker 1: So and Todd Tod Bowls is a wizard if you think,
Speaker 1: and I know Kansas City's line was compromised, but guess
Speaker 1: what so is the Cowboys right now? So, like I said,
Speaker 1: Devin White, Lavante David, we hope the Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 1: get wild with it. We know the Bucks are, or
Speaker 1: they should anyway, And so communicating finding those blitzes, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're gonna stunt. They're like, they're gonna do things,
Speaker 1: you know, And Sue can play a little bit of
Speaker 1: Andy can play tackle. You got Barrett, you got Jpp.
Speaker 1: These guys can do a lot of scary stuff. And
Speaker 1: with that much youth on the offensive line as particularly
Speaker 1: in the middle, that's something I would try to exploit.
Speaker 1: So those guys are gonna need to be on their
Speaker 1: p's and q's. Yeah, if this was me, you know
Speaker 1: how I feel about trick plays or flee flickers or
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but I would. I would probably if
Speaker 1: I'm killing Moore and I've got six, seven, eight nine
Speaker 1: of those in the bag, I'm probably throwing three or
Speaker 1: four or five of them out in this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm saying to use them. I think it's important. I think,
Speaker 1: not only do you want to you gotta do what
Speaker 1: you can do. I mean, because this man on man
Speaker 1: is not going to win this game, you know, this
Speaker 1: isn't a big one bet because they won't win, They're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do things differently. I also think with
Speaker 1: week one putting some of that stuff out there, it's
Speaker 1: it's going to get even out when you play the
Speaker 1: Chargers and you play the Eagles and you play so
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a chance is to be is good
Speaker 1: or if not better. I like to throw some of
Speaker 1: that out there on tape, and this is a perfect
Speaker 1: game to do it, because this is a game that
Speaker 1: you need it. And also, like I said, get it
Speaker 1: out there on tape. Show people what Pollard can do
Speaker 1: out of this slot or what you know, maybe this
Speaker 1: trick player or something like that, because I think it
Speaker 1: serves more than one purpose. All Right, we're gonna tack
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Speaker 1: if you're looking at the season and projecting, what do
Speaker 1: you think is the ceiling and what do you think
Speaker 1: is the floor for this Cowboys team in terms of wind?
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Speaker 1: guys ready for Cowboys versus Bucceteers. We're gonna get to
Speaker 1: our picks here in just a second. Before we do that, though,
Speaker 1: looking at the season as a whole, what do you
Speaker 1: think is the ceiling? And what do you think is
Speaker 1: the floor in terms of wins for this team? And
Speaker 1: it cannot be seventeen and zero, Nick, you gotta give
Speaker 1: me something more than seventeen and zero. All right, what
Speaker 1: do you think is the ceiling? What do you think
Speaker 1: is the floor? Convenience store with a lot of slurpees?
Speaker 1: Seven eleven? That is my floor floor. Okay, I thought
Speaker 1: you were about to say that was the ceiling. I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, I'm sorry. Seven wins, eleven wins? I mean,
Speaker 1: but guess what, there's thirty one. There's twenty eight other
Speaker 1: teams in the league that that's probably as well. There's
Speaker 1: some that aren't going to get there, and there's some
Speaker 1: that are probably gonna be better than that. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's where we are in our in our
Speaker 1: NFL right now, and that's where the Cowboys have been
Speaker 1: for a while right there. And so if you're asking
Speaker 1: me what that range is, I think this is a
Speaker 1: team is good enough to be better. It would better
Speaker 1: than what it is last year over six and ten.
Speaker 1: So I think they'll be better than that. But um,
Speaker 1: if are we asking for a specific I mean, I
Speaker 1: think this is a tenant seven football team. Okay, I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna go ten and seven. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's good enough to win, to win the East,
Speaker 1: It's going to depend on I Well, I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're right, I don't know either. But I feel confident
Speaker 1: if if Fitzpatrick is solid and they are a little
Speaker 1: bit better on offense with as with as great as
Speaker 1: they can be on defense, I mean, I think can
Speaker 1: be scary. They can. Fitzpatrick has a pretty long resume
Speaker 1: that suggests that he isn't that consistent fizzles out. But
Speaker 1: also I think the thing you got to think about
Speaker 1: there is they have the kind of defense that might
Speaker 1: be able to allow him to make some of those
Speaker 1: mistakes totally. If it turnovers, they can create situations where
Speaker 1: he can get the ball back after he gives it away. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think ten wins is enough to win
Speaker 1: this division. I don't know if the Cowboys are capable
Speaker 1: of getting there. Yeah it could, it could be, but
Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna have to, you know, beat
Speaker 1: Washington in that to those ten wins, and if they
Speaker 1: do December twenty sixth game, it's gonna be big, yeah, huge, Yeah.
Speaker 1: But that's what I think they are. I think they're
Speaker 1: better football team. I think Dak will make them better.
Speaker 1: I think those guys coming back, I think dan Quinn's
Speaker 1: gonna make them better. Um, but I mean it, we'll
Speaker 1: find out. I mean, like I say every year, I
Speaker 1: think the Week two season, the Week two games is
Speaker 1: gonna be very very important to see just where they
Speaker 1: stand because it's gonna be hard to tell him maybe
Speaker 1: after this one unless they win. If they win, then
Speaker 1: then then they'll be like, Okay, well the parade will
Speaker 1: go here and then it'll go down this street and
Speaker 1: then we'll go this street. If they be at the
Speaker 1: bucks Man My goal after this game is to stay
Speaker 1: even win or loss. I just want to stay even
Speaker 1: because I don't know that this game is gonna tell
Speaker 1: me Mark back for Friday, because he's gonna come in here,
Speaker 1: come in here, like, oh my god, Derek's gonna come
Speaker 1: in here with a foam finger on his hand. If
Speaker 1: they win, yeah, but if they lose, we sure lyles
Speaker 1: even is he good at all? Like or no, he'll
Speaker 1: just be like, well, this doesn't even really count. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the charger on his like either way, win
Speaker 1: a loss. I really think my goal is to come
Speaker 1: back after this game and be like it unless I'm
Speaker 1: looking for different things. I'm looking for specific things to
Speaker 1: win and the loss like they could get blown out
Speaker 1: in this game. Honestly, this is we'll see about them
Speaker 1: just second good day. When you say ceiling, I just
Speaker 1: assume it means best case scenario. Basically everything falls away
Speaker 1: if everything goes their way and they're healthy all year
Speaker 1: and the defense gets substantially right well yeah, well I
Speaker 1: know best case it's already not a best case scenario, right. Well,
Speaker 1: if it gets a lot better starting week two and
Speaker 1: the defense substantially better, they're forcing takeaways. Dak is who
Speaker 1: we think he is, and the ground game gets back
Speaker 1: up so that they can lean on teams in the
Speaker 1: second half. The ceiling, I think is like twelve or
Speaker 1: thirteen wins. Like I think they're that good. If they
Speaker 1: achieve all of those benchmarks. They won't be though I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're already banged up. They haven't shown any
Speaker 1: inkling that they can be that insistent. We still don't
Speaker 1: know what this defense is, so the floor is the
Speaker 1: defense is just as bad. The floor is probably what
Speaker 1: we saw in twenty nineteen because the personnel's pretty similar.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of names have changed, but the
Speaker 1: level of talent seems similar. And that was an eight
Speaker 1: and eighteen because they were inconsistent and any fishing. So
Speaker 1: you can't go eight in eight this year, I guess
Speaker 1: you could go eight eight and one um in the face.
Speaker 1: I swear if we have a tie game like that'll
Speaker 1: be a saltis. I hate the rule. I hate it's
Speaker 1: ridiculous that you have a tie. I think. I think
Speaker 1: it's one of the one of the reasons why in
Speaker 1: the US that we don't love a soccer as much
Speaker 1: as other countries, because there's no way I think that
Speaker 1: that hurts, I really do, but I just didn't ties
Speaker 1: with terrible. I'm sorry, Dave Good. The ceiling is probably
Speaker 1: I mean sorry, the floor is probably like six or
Speaker 1: seven wins and so split the difference. The realistic scenario is,
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with Nick, but I don't completely You
Speaker 1: can't know. No, No, I'm nine and eight, nine and
Speaker 1: eight and win the East. That's my expectation for this team.
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on Washington, definitely not sold on the Giants,
Speaker 1: and so nine wins prefer mentioned the Eagles. H No,
Speaker 1: well worth mention here, but not so nine nine wins
Speaker 1: and win the division is what I think they are
Speaker 1: capable of, and I will be uh disappointed if they
Speaker 1: can't at least get to that, barring some sort of
Speaker 1: crazy rash of injuries. Again, you know, that's what they're
Speaker 1: paying that to do that. They're paying him to be
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can that can carry the team. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what going well and and I I like, I
Speaker 1: think he has the ability to do that. Um. Like
Speaker 1: I said the other day, I've said this a couple
Speaker 1: of times. I think he's good enough. He's going to
Speaker 1: keep you win games. He showed that last year and
Speaker 1: the team wasn't very good, and he's he kept him
Speaker 1: in games, uh didn't always win though. That's the that's
Speaker 1: where his next level's gotta be. You gotta win those games.
Speaker 1: You got to you gotta complete that pass in Seattle,
Speaker 1: you got to make those plays in Cleveland and all
Speaker 1: against Cleveland, things like that, And so I think, and
Speaker 1: he's got to be better in the first first half
Speaker 1: two to not to get to that point, you know,
Speaker 1: because this is a team with Zeke and the offensive
Speaker 1: line that's still built to run out the clock and
Speaker 1: win games if they can get to that point. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the big key, killing Moore and himself.
Speaker 1: They got to come out and be way better in
Speaker 1: the first half. All right, real quick, give me your
Speaker 1: picks for this week Cowboys versus Buccaneers Thursday Night Football. Dave,
Speaker 1: I can't pick him to win this game, just I mean,
Speaker 1: it was already against him. I keep saying this stat
Speaker 1: but you know, they started playing this Thursday night. They
Speaker 1: turned the Thursday night game into a spectacle around two
Speaker 1: thousand and four. I'm well aware of. The Cowboys won
Speaker 1: one of them in twenty twelve against the Giants, but
Speaker 1: the track record for the home team is outstanding. It's
Speaker 1: like fifteen and three. Yeah, Brady's one of those losses.
Speaker 1: He is he lost to the Chiefs in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: I think I get it. The odds aren't in your favor,
Speaker 1: home crowd hanging a banner. They are a much more.
Speaker 1: They've been together, They brought everybody, bought everybody back. Jordan
Speaker 1: Whitehair is the only injury of note on that entire team.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a lot to go against, even when
Speaker 1: you don't lose Zach Martin right before the game. So sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't pick them. Um. I think Bucks thirty four
Speaker 1: twenty four, and it's gonna be a little dejecting, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they lose by double digits to open
Speaker 1: the season, that's a bummer for everybody. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's an indictment on the season. I think this is
Speaker 1: this is what happens when they put you to go
Speaker 1: against the best. UM, if they win, it'll be that
Speaker 1: would be amazing and all that like, and hopefully they do.
Speaker 1: But I can't pick them thirty four twenty four Bucks.
Speaker 1: I'll go with Tampa as well. I can't. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen it. We haven't seen them do anything to say that,
Speaker 1: you know, they're going to be better. And of course
Speaker 1: we didn't see it in the preseason, and we couldn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't allow that. But you know, Tampa's bringing everyone back.
Speaker 1: There's there's just look at the question mark. They don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of question marks on what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Their question marks are can they keep it at the
Speaker 1: same level Cowboys question marks are you know, is Dac
Speaker 1: back Zeke return to forms the line hold up? They
Speaker 1: got bigger question marks, So there's no way you could
Speaker 1: go in there and expect them to win. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say twenty seven twenty one, I think they'll keep it close.
Speaker 1: I do think the Cowboys will fight, and they'll be
Speaker 1: will show you know, they'll be you know better. I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be a moral victory, if you want
Speaker 1: to go down that road, but I do think that
Speaker 1: they'll they'll keep this close with Tampa, and I think
Speaker 1: they lose the twenty seven twenty one um and I
Speaker 1: got Derek. I also think it's going to be hard
Speaker 1: to pick them this week. Although I do think it
Speaker 1: will be a close game. I do think that this
Speaker 1: is going to be one of those games where I
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier in the show, they've now on there on
Speaker 1: a six game streak of thirty plus games. I think
Speaker 1: that continues. But I do think Tampa is I do
Speaker 1: think though Dallas, as is the case typically when Dak
Speaker 1: has been on the field the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: they'll match them and they'll they'll stay in this game,
Speaker 1: or they'll get back into this game and they'll make
Speaker 1: it interesting. I just don't know if at the end
Speaker 1: of the day they have enough to be able to
Speaker 1: overcome losing somebody like Zack Martin had. It is a
Speaker 1: huge loss to go against a team that again has
Speaker 1: returned all twenty two starters for a week one of
Speaker 1: a season. To lose one of your best players, I
Speaker 1: just think that's going to be a lot to overcome.
Speaker 1: But I do think Dallas will make a run of it,
Speaker 1: and I think it'll be a very interesting game. Oh
Speaker 1: it's all well, actually it isn't always interesting. That's some
Speaker 1: of these Thursday night openers have gotten kind of out
Speaker 1: of hand. It was a while ago, but like Seattle
Speaker 1: beat the crap out of Green Bay when they hung
Speaker 1: their banner a while back. So I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just there's just a lot of factors working against them.
Speaker 1: And you know, the first team offense hasn't really they
Speaker 1: didn't really have a preseens and by the way, you're
Speaker 1: playing against a team that their offense and defense. Not
Speaker 1: only did they not have to worry about having a preseason,
Speaker 1: they played a whole season together last year, So they're
Speaker 1: very comfortable with each other, probably more than most teams
Speaker 1: would be in a first week one game. I see
Speaker 1: this as being a little bit more low scoring than
Speaker 1: you guys didn't I said twenty seven twenty one, But
Speaker 1: I could see it taken a little while to get
Speaker 1: both teams going, which could help the Cowboys obviously if
Speaker 1: you keep it, if you keep the score relatively low.
Speaker 1: So I just I just feel, especially from Dallas standpoint,
Speaker 1: I think they'll they'll take them a little bit to
Speaker 1: get get going in GEL so hopefully hopefully they can
Speaker 1: withstand that. You know, that's just what we've seen. We've
Speaker 1: seen slow starts out of that. I want to see
Speaker 1: if if that can change. That's we talked about that
Speaker 1: earlier this week. It's one of the more frustrating things
Speaker 1: about this team is that they start slow. That would
Speaker 1: be awesome. If they flip the script on that, I
Speaker 1: would not I would not be shocked though, if this game,
Speaker 1: you know, flips the script, I wouldn't be the most
Speaker 1: Cowboys thing ever, which I'm so like. That's the thing
Speaker 1: about the NFL. Once you think you know something, and
Speaker 1: the more you think you know it, the more it
Speaker 1: has a chance to flip on you. Friday Friday could
Speaker 1: be really fun. I hope it is, because I'm getting
Speaker 1: back to Dallas in just enough time to like drive
Speaker 1: here to do the show. If they find a way
Speaker 1: to win, I'll come in here and say and do
Speaker 1: whatever you want me to. I'll eat all I'll happily
Speaker 1: eat all the crow I just I'm just saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't I'll see that they win, you know, a big
Speaker 1: surprise because this is this is the best football team.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the best football team there is
Speaker 1: but the best quarterback to ever play so and I
Speaker 1: think arguably the best coaching in the business right now.
Speaker 1: They get a lot of things working for him. So
Speaker 1: I'll be really shocked if they win. Can they win, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course they can, but it's it's gonna take some
Speaker 1: uncharacteristic things from Tampa Bay and and the Cowboys. Well, well,
Speaker 1: I think, well, I think the important thing is we're
Speaker 1: gonna learn some things about this team. I think we
Speaker 1: will learn where's this defense in their in their you know,
Speaker 1: their trek to try to be you know, back to
Speaker 1: that middle of the at least middle of the league
Speaker 1: type situation. Where's the run game? Where is that? There's
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks that. Well, we'll start getting
Speaker 1: some answers on that this week. You gotta hit him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you gotta hear it is. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't believe that we're playing a game in two days.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, that's day after tomorrow. I said
Speaker 1: that we've we've this has been circled. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know if a season has ever centered so much,
Speaker 1: not for me anyway, on the opener, just we've known
Speaker 1: the schedule since April. They've been in camp since July twentieth,
Speaker 1: like they had to be the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 1: All it's been this. I feel like we've been talking
Speaker 1: about the Bucks for eight months. Well I know, because
Speaker 1: it's like like in June they get asked, what about
Speaker 1: September twenty third, what day of the week is that.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, September ninth is a Thursday, so that's
Speaker 1: a that's a third, you know what I mean, Because
Speaker 1: you know September ninth is a Thursday. You've been writing
Speaker 1: it one hundred times. So here we are. That's a rap.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Friday. We'll tell you guys what
Speaker 1: went write and what went wrong for the Cowboys. Still
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