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Speaker 3: I Am Big Still with my guy man tonight Man.
Speaker 4: We have another legendary figure up in here, man from
Speaker 4: the city of San Diego. Man hit the scene Big.
Speaker 3: Man with Triggeration Station, and it seemed like he been
Speaker 3: the mission since then. Makes you slick? Make you what's
Speaker 3: happening with your baby doing? Man? Chilling? Man? Glads?
Speaker 4: You can come down here, man, especially in the rain. Man,
Speaker 4: you don't you don't have like a two hour track.
Speaker 4: Man down here, man from San Diego.
Speaker 1: Man, come see y'all that ain't nothing.
Speaker 3: It's raining like a motherfucker outside. Should we appreciate you?
Speaker 3: May pull up.
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up.
Speaker 5: I'm right, I'm about ship fifty miles from where you're
Speaker 5: down there.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's a ride. Yeah, ate right by you, dog,
Speaker 3: y'all neighbors, y'all.
Speaker 1: Be saying that shit. But that's far as far as.
Speaker 3: A motherfucker.
Speaker 4: As far as a motherfucker a man. So you've man
Speaker 4: in hip hop.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Hip hop is one of those careers man, to where
Speaker 4: it's almost like the NFL. It's like the average lifespan
Speaker 4: man average career or a rapper man is something like
Speaker 4: one and a half two years something like that. Now, man,
Speaker 4: and you've managed to be getting busy since went since the.
Speaker 1: Nineties, right, I put my first album out in like
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, two.
Speaker 4: Two thousand and two Trigger Ration Station, and you said
Speaker 4: you put that out with the homies.
Speaker 1: Right strictly independent. I mean I'm talking about straight the
Speaker 1: brown paper bag was my was my you know, my
Speaker 1: label straight up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was just us as a lot of people was
Speaker 4: back then. A lot of brothers got together, man was
Speaker 4: you know, the street money man street currency and put
Speaker 4: their labels together. The distribution we was talking about wald
Speaker 4: up the City Hall, Bayside.
Speaker 1: And all and that that them das them days.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you had a little bit of paper, you
Speaker 4: could really get some cracking man and you hit I think, shoot,
Speaker 4: you hit the top twenty on Billboard with.
Speaker 3: That album, you didn't you?
Speaker 1: Independent?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Independent hurts like number thirteen something like that. Thirteen
Speaker 3: the album in this country. That was for ourselves. I
Speaker 3: mean we cooked it up, ourselves, promoted ourselves. Didn't know
Speaker 3: what the fuck we was doing. Just had a team
Speaker 3: of homies that was excited about actually being able to.
Speaker 1: Have a chance to be in the game. After watching
Speaker 1: a lot of homies and surrounds, especially the La Homies
Speaker 1: comped the homies do their thing, I was like for
Speaker 1: the homies, I was like brand new shit. So we
Speaker 1: didn't know what we were doing, but we was. We
Speaker 1: was happy about doing it, and we pretty much just
Speaker 1: word of mouth the project.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, you know what, and sometimes that's the
Speaker 4: best strategy, bro, that's the best strategy. You don't nothing
Speaker 4: to beat the streets.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you had a word of mouth was real, real
Speaker 5: official back in the days, you know, I guess, you know,
Speaker 5: trying to be an artist, you know, coming from the
Speaker 5: neighborhoods and whatever, we saw all the accolades of being
Speaker 5: on you know, the l L cool j's and the
Speaker 5: run DMCs being on labels. So a lot of motherfuckers
Speaker 5: thought that was the way to go. But a lot
Speaker 5: of motherfuckers was independent, you know, coming if you look
Speaker 5: at l A, you know, hip hop, a lot of
Speaker 5: the forefathers, you know, started off independently, the Toddy.
Speaker 3: T's, the Wrecking crews, Easy started.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of a lot of l A artists
Speaker 5: started off like independent. We was on techno hop, King
Speaker 5: t Ice Tea was on techno Hop. Lonzo had Crew Cut,
Speaker 5: which was the Wrecking Crew, which was Dre and them.
Speaker 5: You know, Easy had Ruthless. We was shipped. We was
Speaker 5: kind of born and bringing on independency coming up in
Speaker 5: in the early eighties, and ship as far as hip.
Speaker 3: Hop concern because.
Speaker 5: Labels wasn't fucking with what especially when it came to
Speaker 5: our side, you know what I'm saying. Uh, you know they,
Speaker 5: like I said, it was the run DMCs, the Houdini's,
Speaker 5: the ship like that, so uh, but when it came
Speaker 5: to West Coast music, Uh, it was kind of venturing
Speaker 5: into another side for them.
Speaker 3: So they was they was treacher.
Speaker 5: They was terrified of niggas like us, especially grabbing a microphone,
Speaker 5: you know, watching movies like Colors and Ship compared to
Speaker 5: like The Warriors and Ship. You compare The Warriors to
Speaker 5: Colors and Ship, it was a whole different Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cartoon like what the fuck is these
Speaker 3: niggas do?
Speaker 5: So it kind of terrified record labels from fucking with
Speaker 5: niggas like us until it just started being too lucrative,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to and you know you being you
Speaker 3: had two things, bro.
Speaker 4: You was from San Diego, and I think at that
Speaker 4: time the only person that people had heard of has
Speaker 4: some notoriety was jail right, And at that time, it
Speaker 4: wasn't that many bloods in the business.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no blood.
Speaker 3: It wasn't no blood you had to around.
Speaker 1: But when I first started coming to La, man, you
Speaker 1: got a man look.
Speaker 3: Listen, Man, yeah you was at the time people was
Speaker 3: really banned.
Speaker 1: Listen. I'm gonna tell you one experience. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if being from Compton in La, y'all really can
Speaker 1: understand what this is like on me. But imagine I
Speaker 1: got to explain to imagine in La if a gang
Speaker 1: like East Coast of the sixties was bloods, imagine how
Speaker 1: deep that is in the landscape of even though it
Speaker 1: ain't as many niggas to scale. That's kind of how
Speaker 1: San Diego was. That don't mean that you don't worry
Speaker 1: about bloods in La just because the crips is deep,
Speaker 1: or you don't worry about you know. It ain't that
Speaker 1: it was so few crips that no nigga crips was active.
Speaker 1: As a motherfucker San Diego. You ain't safe nigga out
Speaker 1: here too much. But just to be coming from a
Speaker 1: city like that. And then my first l a trip
Speaker 1: to LA. The first day I went out to La
Speaker 1: to get out and do my ship with Jinks. This nigga,
Speaker 1: take me to that. That's that that summer jam where
Speaker 1: the where the niggas went.
Speaker 3: Mm. That was your first in La. For those in La.
Speaker 1: The first day I went around La, niggas was at
Speaker 1: that summer jam and I never seen no nigga. That's
Speaker 1: when it was about five hundred cribs nigga in one pack.
Speaker 1: Nigga moving around niggas and they got it in the fo.
Speaker 1: I had to stand off with them and they got
Speaker 1: on the do MoU homies and they run up on
Speaker 1: stage and l L was on stage and Nigga. That's
Speaker 1: the first day I went to l A. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, honey, we gotta go, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: rechaculate how we move in l A. And I and
Speaker 1: I started learning how to move in La because at
Speaker 1: that time, Homemy, every every wrap circle it was basically
Speaker 1: the hood, you know what I mean? Like you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like no, I mean you had death roll
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know what I'm saying. Where it was
Speaker 1: different niggas. But for the most parts, if you wrap
Speaker 1: with eight and them you and Compton with the crips,
Speaker 1: if you rap with mag T and you a nigga
Speaker 1: would with the if you wrap with quick you would
Speaker 1: you know, you were comp San Diego nigga and just
Speaker 1: come to La where I'm you know. And so the
Speaker 1: niggas that kind of open their arms to me, Hommy
Speaker 1: was niggas that wasn't really gang members artists. So that'd
Speaker 1: be like the alcoholics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: You always had alcoholics. That's how I met crime and
Speaker 1: feeling all them from being in the arena of niggas
Speaker 1: that was just about rapping on you.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I was gonna say. You had
Speaker 3: a lot of love.
Speaker 4: As crazy as it is, you was a gangster rapper,
Speaker 4: but you had a lot of love from the underground cats.
Speaker 1: That's from that.
Speaker 4: That's from yeah, because at that time Exhibit people, I
Speaker 4: think people seem to forget that Exhibit had the whole
Speaker 4: career before he was with Dre right, you know, it
Speaker 4: was King t and put him on and they was
Speaker 4: just the homies. They was just the rapping niggas, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It wasn't really no gang, you know,
Speaker 4: they was the crew. Was the crew, Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: You didn't look at them as gang bangers like that.
Speaker 4: But when you saw like CMW, you knew them some crips,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. When you saw quicken Than
Speaker 4: you knew.
Speaker 3: Them, the pirut homeless, and when you saw.
Speaker 4: You know whoever else, you knew where they was from.
Speaker 4: You know the Snoop and them Snoopers from twenties and
Speaker 4: Long Beach.
Speaker 3: You pretty much knew everybody's gang affiliation. But then with
Speaker 3: the kids, rads, cans and exhibiting.
Speaker 4: Them was like barbershop. I like to call them the
Speaker 4: what was my boys? The wake Up show Cats?
Speaker 1: Hey them Nick, listen, I'm my first one of my
Speaker 1: first trips to l A. These niggas take me to
Speaker 1: the wake Up Show. Hey, they got me on the
Speaker 1: wake Up Show busting. I don't even know who these
Speaker 1: niggas is. I'm just thinking we rapping this sh nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm on the wake Up Show. But the way that
Speaker 1: jocks you miss the fab I was so green to
Speaker 1: the to the ship, but that's the only place.
Speaker 4: You had to have some time, and you had to
Speaker 4: have some bars up there for swinging tickets.
Speaker 1: They had didn't even know it on me. I just
Speaker 1: thought I was rapping, just that's just what I gotta do.
Speaker 5: That's the beauty of of of Like you said, when
Speaker 5: you're being when you're able to come into the ship
Speaker 5: without the gang affiliation and niggas just trying to hear
Speaker 5: you on some rap ship. I mean because I was
Speaker 5: on just hip hop ship.
Speaker 1: I did me.
Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to uh.
Speaker 5: Be associated as far as my music was concerned, I
Speaker 5: was hip hop man.
Speaker 1: The vocabulary that she was using was even hip hop.
Speaker 5: Just I just you know, because nigga was already doing
Speaker 5: the hood ship and and like I said, a lot
Speaker 5: of a lot of uh, a lot of my heroes
Speaker 5: was from the East Coast, you get me. I grew
Speaker 5: up listening to L L and Cool mo O d
Speaker 5: and and and those dudes. And so when you were
Speaker 5: able to listen to them just focus on hip hop,
Speaker 5: it was able to keep me away from the gang
Speaker 5: affiliation in my music.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 5: That part was just because the nigga was banging already.
Speaker 5: You get me. I'm I'm nigga. It wasn't about trying
Speaker 5: to image nigga. Khakis was cheap, you get me. T
Speaker 5: shirts was cheap. Fucking Cortez was cheap, so that was all.
Speaker 5: That was our peril. You get me, and especially when you.
Speaker 3: Ain't got moms or dad buying.
Speaker 5: Your clothes and you already walking around fourteen fifteen affiliated nigga,
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck about rapping or nothing.
Speaker 3: Nigga.
Speaker 5: The tire is finna be a sweatshirt, khakis and motherfucking cortez.
Speaker 4: He and I would say at that time too, eight
Speaker 4: wasn't nobody really because gang banging was so serious at
Speaker 4: that time. Whatn't everybody knew we could really kick off?
Speaker 4: So you didn't really hear people talking about their neighborhoods
Speaker 4: on records like that.
Speaker 1: You never know where a nigga was even from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't want to do.
Speaker 5: I didn't want to do color shit on the records
Speaker 5: because I wanted to talk about every nigga that was
Speaker 5: gang banging, right, I didn't. I didn't just go fuck that.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna focus on the crypt niggas. I knew
Speaker 5: blood homies was banging my ship too, so I didn't
Speaker 5: want to alienate them. B going, man, all this nigga
Speaker 5: talking about is crypt is crypt that crypt that crypt that.
Speaker 3: So we didn't do that.
Speaker 5: We just was like in the neighborhood, this would go
Speaker 5: down in the neighborhood. This would go down, I know
Speaker 5: in my neighborhood to go down, So it got to
Speaker 5: go down in your neighborhood. So we as count as
Speaker 5: most wanted never focused on like you know, we was like, nigga,
Speaker 5: we've been we already there with that. So we're trying
Speaker 5: to we're trying to capture some of that world wide
Speaker 5: ship right now. And you can't, uh, you can't alienate
Speaker 5: I learned that ship.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: You can't just alienate motherfuckers. Cause everybody was coming to
Speaker 5: the shows and I go out in the audience, Nigga,
Speaker 5: it was crips, it was bloods, it was Mexicans, it
Speaker 5: was it was.
Speaker 3: Everything had a blood. You had a blood. Mike T
Speaker 3: was a blood. He was from the neighborhood. Mike T
Speaker 3: was from.
Speaker 1: That's what I came for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike T was from Inglewood.
Speaker 1: But what fuck me up is we're gonna, I know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to this part of the ship, but
Speaker 1: when we do, we're gonna have to come back to
Speaker 1: to hear him say everything that he said and for
Speaker 1: that to be so much my understanding of how I
Speaker 1: was gonna make music. You will understand why that's so
Speaker 1: important to me. Later on that he said this, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying in a minute, but like, that's
Speaker 1: the same approach I had home. I wanted. I didn't want.
Speaker 1: This is what I just say. I want niggas to
Speaker 1: be able to bump my ship to the crip picnic
Speaker 1: exactly because you know, if you're saying certain ship, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna play your ship.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I don't say blood one time on my trigger ration station,
Speaker 1: my nigga, not one time on the whole album.
Speaker 3: On whole album to say blood.
Speaker 1: One time, and they, oh, that's the most gangs and ship, Yeah, nigga,
Speaker 1: I don't. It's a bunch of sh I didn't even
Speaker 1: really cuss that much on the album. M I wanted
Speaker 1: to be able to slap my ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying everywhere?
Speaker 3: And it worked for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And let me ask, cause you spent some time in Texas,
Speaker 4: right man. You was down in Prairie. You was playing football.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't play football at Prairie. I played
Speaker 1: football cause I went down there two different times. I
Speaker 1: went down there in high school, I was fucking up
Speaker 1: in San Diego and at the time I was playing
Speaker 1: quarterback for Lincoln. They got into some shit with it,
Speaker 1: you know, young It was legendary scrap between me and
Speaker 1: one of the young reptable San Diego niggas. Uh. Shout
Speaker 1: out to the hommie Popper Hommy from from from Skylin
Speaker 1: Homy to hommy, God life right now, but shout out
Speaker 1: to the hommy. You know, I always give shout out
Speaker 1: to the niggas. I ran into alone the way, cause
Speaker 1: they helped make me who I am today. You feel me.
Speaker 1: It was a big rumble. Mom's found out and that's
Speaker 1: when I kind of got ah. You know. It was
Speaker 1: kind of out there. Nigga was doing this shit outside
Speaker 1: and Mom sent my ass to text or something. I
Speaker 1: was in the tenth grade and she was like, nigga,
Speaker 1: y you you doing too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was trying to save your life.
Speaker 1: She was like, you doing too much, my nigga. And
Speaker 1: I told the story before, but it's such a good one.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell her. That's what I do or tell
Speaker 1: stories on me for sure. So Mom's just like she
Speaker 1: in her mind, she like my nigga finished start this
Speaker 1: gang banging shit. If Finna get him out of here
Speaker 1: before nigga being already active since the fucking elementary. But
Speaker 1: she get me out of there right, Send me to
Speaker 1: my auntie house. Really, it's my mama's cousin. They grew
Speaker 1: up like sisters in love with Texas. I fly down there,
Speaker 1: I get off the plane and hop in the car
Speaker 1: where her She take me home. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: away from this shit right in her neighborhood. My mom
Speaker 1: and then grew up with. It's a park up there.
Speaker 1: It's that. I think it's a it's by Dunball High School.
Speaker 1: Were coming home when we coming to the pat Nigga,
Speaker 1: it's about thirty crips up at the park. Having an
Speaker 1: initiation in the neighborhood in Texas in like ninety one,
Speaker 1: ninety two, the thirties was out there, and like the
Speaker 1: Denver Lanes in the thirties was out in Texas. Love
Speaker 1: of Texas in like ninety two, and them niggas was active.
Speaker 1: Them niggas was. They were so excited about that game.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, Mom's just send me out here.
Speaker 1: I'm right in the middle of this and all the crip.
Speaker 1: Little niggas in my neighborhood was kind of watching me
Speaker 1: on how to you know, do the gangster shit, so
Speaker 1: they didn't trip off me cause it was just me
Speaker 1: and they was deep as a motherfucker. But yeah, Mom
Speaker 1: sent me to Texas. That was the first time. And
Speaker 1: then after I finished high school and all that shit,
Speaker 1: I'm down there the second time and I went to Prayerview.
Speaker 1: That's when I went to prayer.
Speaker 3: You you went to prayer Who made you want to
Speaker 3: go down to Praier View.
Speaker 1: Well, what it was for me is I always be
Speaker 1: hating explaining this part too, but I for y'all to
Speaker 1: understand my story is which y'all should want to do
Speaker 1: if y'all watching this shit, is I always tell this
Speaker 1: part of the story, but I don't want nobody to
Speaker 1: get it mixed up like I'm glorifying being a street
Speaker 1: nigga and not going to college. But I understand and
Speaker 1: I know that any nigga I ever know that went
Speaker 1: to an HBCU, he was different than how I am.
Speaker 1: So I tell niggas for y'all to understand the magnitude
Speaker 1: of me going to college. I'm not nigga I'm like,
Speaker 1: not like no nigga that you ever knew that went
Speaker 1: off to college at the time. Nigga, I'm straight number
Speaker 1: one shot the you know what I'm saying front number
Speaker 1: one guy in the turf before I went off to motherfucker.
Speaker 1: It was. It was. It was some shit, homie. It
Speaker 1: was the best experience I ever had in my life.
Speaker 1: But I really was not no nigga that was on
Speaker 1: his way to college. So I say that so y'all
Speaker 1: don't misunderstand who Mitchie Slicky is. Yeah, I'm intelligence nigga,
Speaker 1: I think, and I wish I would have stayed in
Speaker 1: school and did all that shit, But I'm not a
Speaker 1: nigga that y'all would have ever had imagined. And the
Speaker 1: shit I was doing, they ended up leaving off the
Speaker 1: going to college. But I did that shit on me
Speaker 1: and I learned a lot of shit, open up my
Speaker 1: eyes a lot of shit and let me know that.
Speaker 1: It let me know about being considerate an other shit
Speaker 1: in the world. Because the shit I thought was the
Speaker 1: shit it it it. It didn't mean shit down there,
Speaker 1: and when I got there, it was shit that we
Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck about here that meant everything out
Speaker 1: there like like like fraternities and sororities, the magnitude that
Speaker 1: they had on the South and all that shit. We
Speaker 1: don't do that out here. We won't even understand that
Speaker 1: if you damn it, couldn't get a bitch if you
Speaker 1: wasn't from some ship out there.
Speaker 5: You know, if you' if you ain't a camp. They
Speaker 5: real strong on ship down in the South. I mean
Speaker 5: not to say we don't got our values as far
Speaker 5: as being I think every you know nigga that come
Speaker 5: from all walks of life, especially from that time era,
Speaker 5: because it's kind of different now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: a lot of niggas who came from that time era,
Speaker 5: we had some sort of you know, respect and honor
Speaker 5: about the shit, even though motherfuckers looked at us as
Speaker 5: gang banging and whatever you had it. We just had
Speaker 5: a different way of of how shit is. Like you said,
Speaker 5: you go down there, they real heavy with the sororities
Speaker 5: and all of that. Well that's how we took being
Speaker 5: from the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: We have real.
Speaker 5: Respect back then and pride about it. And it's just
Speaker 5: kind of different now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Careful, I'm surprised you men become a capita down there, And.
Speaker 1: I see, I didn't really fall in. I was the
Speaker 1: one Cali nigga with the Kakis in the chucks on,
Speaker 1: just at.
Speaker 3: School, kind of by myself.
Speaker 1: I didn't really fall into mingling with all the social ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But a few niggas that
Speaker 1: was down there, I deal with him. And you hung
Speaker 1: out with the homies. You got money down there with
Speaker 1: a couple niggas too. While I was down there and ship,
Speaker 1: that's what I actually went forward. I was fucking up
Speaker 1: at home and Mom's basically was like, look, you don't
Speaker 1: graduate from high school, you ain't going to school right now,
Speaker 1: you ain't working right now. I'm a full fledged eight.
Speaker 1: I'm outside, I'm yeah riding hl.
Speaker 5: They try to and the moms is gonna always pretend
Speaker 5: like they here and they see little shit, but they
Speaker 5: still gonna ride it down to the last tried to,
Speaker 5: I gotta steer you, but you already like full.
Speaker 3: Fledge one hundred percent outside.
Speaker 5: They kind of know it, but they don't want to,
Speaker 5: so they still try to them last efforts to get
Speaker 5: you out.
Speaker 4: Moms will always try to make sure her baby you
Speaker 4: gotta remember they don't walked around for a whole year.
Speaker 3: I used to come to the crib.
Speaker 5: Nigga homies used to drop me off low riders in
Speaker 5: the front, niggas jumping now five and six deep.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: And and we used to have beef with where where
Speaker 5: nigga lived at. So it was always some hesitation and
Speaker 5: some friction, and moms used to just, oh, no, he
Speaker 5: don't gang bang my son on gang bang now. I
Speaker 5: used to walk in the house with fucking coats and
Speaker 5: Ship the hood up with the hood all on the
Speaker 5: back of them, and sweatshirts and belt buckles with the
Speaker 5: hood on them, and every and she see pictures all
Speaker 5: in the nigga roomed and took the Yeah, they they
Speaker 5: protect you to the fullish man to the end of
Speaker 5: the line.
Speaker 1: And Ship told me, look, you you you ain't you,
Speaker 1: You ain't working, you ain't going to school. You gonna do?
Speaker 1: You gotta do one or the other. And at the time,
Speaker 1: one of my best homies had just recently got killed,
Speaker 1: and niggas was niggas went crazy and for six months
Speaker 1: was passed. After he died, all the homies was in
Speaker 1: jail and they was still own homie and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of really just out in Dago by myself, really without
Speaker 1: the homies and the other side, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck I'm gonna do. I ain't finna be
Speaker 1: sitting up in no job every day. And Dago the
Speaker 1: niggas fok around and applied to a couple of schools
Speaker 1: on me and Prayerview excepted me. My whole family had
Speaker 1: went to Prayerview before me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: my mom and my daddy, my grandparents, my uncles, all
Speaker 1: that shit went there.
Speaker 3: People.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Primo. As a matter of fact, Primo got a nephew,
Speaker 1: Primo and then from from Prayerview, and he got a
Speaker 1: nephew just that produced on my new album. Primo got it.
Speaker 1: He produced a lot.
Speaker 3: Of my Ship right now, man, Moms and pops and
Speaker 3: all of that. Man. Yes, indeed, so you fuck with
Speaker 3: Primo real.
Speaker 1: Heavy, Primo and Hommy. But but I know that he
Speaker 1: fucked with the Hommy real heavy. And I kind of
Speaker 1: figured his relationship with eight when he fucked with Slick,
Speaker 1: because I didn't did ship and hopped on Ship. I
Speaker 1: figured he feel like kind of like a Slick, kind
Speaker 1: of like a new Era eight far as in his
Speaker 1: fucking around because he don't fuck with a bunch of
Speaker 1: against the rap nigga, but he fucked with Slick. He
Speaker 1: fuck with you.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I've been doing Primo since.
Speaker 4: Man, we need to get that m C eight Michie
Speaker 4: Slick collabor up in this motherfucker produced by DJ Premiere.
Speaker 4: We need that, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Primo is one
Speaker 4: of them cats. Man, I've been knowing since my my
Speaker 4: first start. So he's one of those dudes who I
Speaker 4: can I still talk to today, not even on rap shit. Man,
Speaker 4: I talked to Premiere about family ship and all of that,
Speaker 4: you know, so uh, shout out my people's Premiere Him
Speaker 4: and him in the Face is like, uh, two people
Speaker 4: that I've been knowing for a man, since I first
Speaker 4: started rapping.
Speaker 1: And shit, you know, I never met face something.
Speaker 5: I just talked to face. He called me about four
Speaker 5: days ago. He'll be out here at the end of
Speaker 5: this month.
Speaker 3: Your face still on that roads on the he's on that. Uh.
Speaker 5: He decided to go back on tour, you know, like
Speaker 5: his final round up, So he's doing dates right now.
Speaker 5: He's gonna be in Santa Anna at the Garden after.
Speaker 3: That uh huh.
Speaker 1: They salute the sly drexeler Man. That's the homie Primo's
Speaker 1: nephew DJ from me and nephew from out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: for sure he dope best producer nigga down there, like
Speaker 1: make some West Coast shit and that nigga from from
Speaker 1: Prayer of You.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So.
Speaker 4: You down in Prayerview, Texas, You you getting it in.
Speaker 4: You just staying low key. You're getting your little money here.
Speaker 4: You getting to it, but you kind of staying low key.
Speaker 1: I'm staying low key for show. Yeah, I'm just observing everything.
Speaker 1: It's the first time ever I really started going to
Speaker 1: class real and you know, going to the library, and
Speaker 1: it kind of fucked me up because I wasn't even
Speaker 1: all my woke type shit at the time. I'd be
Speaker 1: trying to be on it now about you know, the
Speaker 1: world and all my peoples and all that, but at
Speaker 1: the time, I was just a young, burned nigga fresh
Speaker 1: off the trap, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But all those experiences made when I'm going to class
Speaker 4: and I'm hearing these black teachers teach me history.
Speaker 1: But when they teaching me history, it ain't like I
Speaker 1: didn't heard it. All through high school. They teaching me
Speaker 1: history and they telling me what my peoples is doing
Speaker 1: during the same time that George Washington is doing whatever
Speaker 1: he doing or whatever, the same time they making the
Speaker 1: Emancipation Proclamation. What the white folks do, That's what they
Speaker 1: tell you in the books, But they don't really tell
Speaker 1: you what the black folks was doing because they was
Speaker 1: doing shit. All these great events is happening in American history,
Speaker 1: but we never learned what we was doing during them times.
Speaker 1: And when I went to Prayer View, they was teaching
Speaker 1: us that.
Speaker 5: They was teaching us how we were slaves and crazy
Speaker 5: politics and all that. Ship were just being taught about
Speaker 5: being slaves or they might give you one every now
Speaker 5: and then.
Speaker 4: That's all you heard were ways on how you're not
Speaker 4: superior and just pretty much to the gregs the whole time.
Speaker 4: That's what I felt like American history was when I
Speaker 4: was in high school and stuff, because I took it
Speaker 4: to pump myself to go learn certain things, and I
Speaker 4: was like you, once I went to college.
Speaker 3: I learned even further. I exponded on that.
Speaker 4: But for the most part, it's they're almost like it's
Speaker 4: almost like a form of buck breaking to be a
Speaker 4: little bit like like to remind you, you know what,
Speaker 4: your big strong daddy, we once had them tired, so
Speaker 4: you want to stay in line.
Speaker 5: It's almost like your kid and elementary and they want
Speaker 5: to they want to teach you about how well you
Speaker 5: was a slave and you got brought over here as
Speaker 5: a slave, and then you get to see and movies
Speaker 5: how you used to get whipped and and chase after
Speaker 5: and all kinds of shit and the.
Speaker 1: One niggas that did stand up for y'all got smoked.
Speaker 1: And so don't do that. Don't try to stand up.
Speaker 1: You're gonna give it to.
Speaker 3: Me like it's the biggest form of bug breaking.
Speaker 1: Dog.
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
Speaker 4: It's very it's very systematic, man, the way they do
Speaker 4: stuff and the way they oppress people. Right, because if
Speaker 4: you get told your whole life that all you've been
Speaker 4: as a slave and you wasn't shipped then and you
Speaker 4: ain't shipping out, what you think you gon grow up
Speaker 4: and do. I had a teacher tell me straight up
Speaker 4: in elementary school. White dude told me said, I don't
Speaker 4: even know why you try?
Speaker 3: Why are your.
Speaker 5: What's so fun at your big ass it was like that,
Speaker 5: why you even here? Man called outside to get a
Speaker 5: ball and ship and we go, we're gonna pass you
Speaker 5: right through school and ship.
Speaker 4: And it was just you know, you hear those things
Speaker 4: when you were a child, man, and it has it.
Speaker 3: Has an impact on you, definitely definitely impact you. So
Speaker 3: you down there, man? How long did that last?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I went down there for like a year, hummy. And
Speaker 1: while I was down there, my nigga got caught up
Speaker 1: trying to get to the bag. The first time I
Speaker 1: ever went to jail my nigga. I was in college money.
Speaker 3: I knew something was coming. I said, yeah, I said,
Speaker 3: what happened?
Speaker 1: I was down there trying to get to it, homie.
Speaker 1: It's a long story, but I don't feel like going
Speaker 1: into that shit could fucking okay, Look, we're gonna make
Speaker 1: it quick. I would say it fast. The motherfucker. It
Speaker 1: was one of them weakend's, hummy where I guess it
Speaker 1: was a game, probably our school against Southern and somebody
Speaker 1: like that. All the kids come in from all over Texas.
Speaker 1: Some little broad haf fucking running came and didn't go home,
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, came and didn't go home All right,
Speaker 1: So they all over the campus looking for her, mama
Speaker 1: calling down from wherever the fuck they're looking for. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about what it is at a
Speaker 1: not shit like that anyways. All I know is one day, nigga,
Speaker 1: they got the dogs coming through the doors. When they
Speaker 1: bring the dogs to the dorms, that's either if they
Speaker 1: finish comrade the room or they just do random checks.
Speaker 1: Niggas up in my room. I got the screens and
Speaker 1: shit in the room. You know, I've been getting to
Speaker 1: the bag up in school. I got niggas in there
Speaker 1: playing PlayStation or whatever and shit. And the motherfucking dorm
Speaker 1: director come to my room with the dogs, homy, and
Speaker 1: it was smelling like weed and shit up in their Hommy.
Speaker 3: Oh well, now you in Texas too.
Speaker 1: MoMA, nigga, I'm in a fucking black college. In my
Speaker 1: room smell like weed, and everybody run to the other
Speaker 1: side leave me in there. I'm like, all right, fucking
Speaker 1: But what had happened was the little broad was up
Speaker 1: in this other nigga room around the corner, and I
Speaker 1: guess she was fucking with the nigga across the hall
Speaker 1: from me, and these niggas knew what was going on,
Speaker 1: so when they went to his room, he hit her
Speaker 1: in the closet and he said, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what she at.
Speaker 1: I think she in room. Guess whose room you seeing?
Speaker 3: Yours my room.
Speaker 1: And they came to my motherfucking room, found the weed.
Speaker 1: The little girl get out and go wherever she go.
Speaker 1: Everybody good, hummy, and I go to jail for the
Speaker 1: first time I ever went to jail at motherfucking call
Speaker 1: it when I'm just starting to kind of change and
Speaker 1: try to get some weed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Texas don't play when they come when it comes
Speaker 3: to weed and ship. And what year was that. That's
Speaker 3: when we talked.
Speaker 1: About like ninety ninety five.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, ninety five for sure. They was looking
Speaker 4: next your ass like.
Speaker 3: Still when they coming to the motherfucker weeds ship looking.
Speaker 4: At your ass for some weed. They like, that's pop
Speaker 4: right there. Nigga was bringing all.
Speaker 3: The dope and had a nickel bag of stress and ship.
Speaker 5: Motherfucking Texas, they throw your ass under the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: That was it, nigga, No more college for you and
Speaker 1: on everything. I loved that nigga. That motherfucker summer. That
Speaker 1: was the wildest summer I ever had in the streets
Speaker 1: of my life. Right after I came home from college,
Speaker 1: Nigga came right back to the block and went hammerton
Speaker 1: straight up. Yeah, that was that. That's probably the one
Speaker 1: of the most fucked up things happening. Now, that's a
Speaker 1: life pattern.
Speaker 3: Yeah, summer No.
Speaker 1: After getting sent home from college.
Speaker 4: So you do your you do your time down there. Man,
Speaker 4: you come back home. When did the music bug hit?
Speaker 4: What did you say?
Speaker 3: Man, I'm kind of nice on this microphone.
Speaker 1: I always felt I was nice on the mic, But
Speaker 1: I never really took doing music series because I never
Speaker 1: really saw it as a reality that it can happen.
Speaker 1: See in San Diego, you never seen no nigga make
Speaker 1: it off rap, you feel what I'm saying. So rap
Speaker 1: wasn't That wasn't even something that we did like that,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: So you in jail kind of like first generation.
Speaker 1: Before Yeah, it's a couple. Yeah before us, right before
Speaker 1: us was gonna be like the main name was gonna
Speaker 1: be like a hommy from from Brahms from Dago. Brahm's
Speaker 1: name Gangster.
Speaker 4: Iarn gangster were talking about gangster earlier. That's right. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't you know what, I can't even say I
Speaker 4: knew Gangster N was a rapper. I would want to
Speaker 4: know him from the street shit as being a legend
Speaker 4: theory niggas from down to San Diego.
Speaker 1: The true gangster Iarn probably mold on for the street
Speaker 1: ship than the rap shit. Well and Dago he wrong
Speaker 1: for the street shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I know little Earn is nice, Little Earn
Speaker 4: do his thing, But Gangster Earn, I just more knew
Speaker 4: him as just one of g you know, the niggas
Speaker 4: got the worms down there, and shit, I just knew
Speaker 4: him as one of them.
Speaker 3: Niggas.
Speaker 1: Gangs was official in the streets, and he kind of
Speaker 1: showed niggas that you could actually do this for real.
Speaker 1: He was the first nigga we saw that was just
Speaker 1: a regular street nigga, not no rapper, just a street
Speaker 1: nigga that took his money and put our records, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's kind of what started everybody
Speaker 1: up on being like really into to our our our
Speaker 1: street independent music right there. And niggas didn't jump right
Speaker 1: on after that. It was a few years after niggas
Speaker 1: got on, you know what I mean. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was niggas before me, before Jayo for sure.
Speaker 4: You know what, I shouldn't I think who was the
Speaker 4: first ones to take it like on the nationwide scale.
Speaker 1: Let me see Nation, it's dango, hummy. We ain't really
Speaker 1: had nobody take it on the nation.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what you had, Jo did this thing.
Speaker 1: Jail was the first nigga in the era that actually
Speaker 1: had records that was like on the radio and ship
Speaker 1: like that. Nick Cannon had records, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's you know what, I forget that Nick Cannons from
Speaker 3: San Diego.
Speaker 1: Cannon had records and ship like that. But but far
Speaker 1: it's just on some straight competitive ship where you hearing
Speaker 1: this ship and then you're hearing the hummies ship come
Speaker 1: on after that or something like that. Jail and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't really get on till long after Jail, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Yeah, you came.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even rapping when Jail put out that first
Speaker 1: you know stuff he had put out.
Speaker 3: Shit, damn Jail and that ship.
Speaker 1: What year? Man? I don't even know Jane.
Speaker 3: Well, you and a kind of like you and Jail
Speaker 3: kind of from the same classes. I came way before jail. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when the stick drops.
Speaker 5: That was like in the nineties, man, I start. I
Speaker 5: mean I was like the mid nineties, maybe the end
Speaker 5: something like that. I came out like, uh just most
Speaker 5: warn Conca's most one that came out in eighty nine.
Speaker 3: A yeah, man.
Speaker 4: And see it's these stories, man, It's that history. Man,
Speaker 4: all this shit, it's it's so much history of this ship.
Speaker 4: That's why having brothers like you on the show is
Speaker 4: important because for a lot of people. They it's a
Speaker 4: lot of people that may not.
Speaker 3: Even know gangster Earn Hills.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know gangs and Iron really didn't get gangs,
Speaker 1: and Earn passed away before he really got his full
Speaker 1: issue of getting out, you know what I'm saying like that,
Speaker 1: But but like real budget and all that shit's gonna
Speaker 1: be jail jail, you know, Jail, Ship had Ship, Jail
Speaker 1: had hit records with Nigga was rapping with fucking the
Speaker 1: biggest niggas in the game, and ship you feel with
Speaker 1: method Man and and and who is it? Who is who?
Speaker 3: Jam Master Jay I was.
Speaker 5: I was kind of shocked myself to see a nigga
Speaker 5: from San Diego, uh riding with you know, jam Master
Speaker 5: Jay's label and all that.
Speaker 3: I was like, how the fuck did that happen? You know, because.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you you know, as an artist, you you know,
Speaker 5: you uh, you quest the fuck with certain niggas, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And to be able to be
Speaker 5: on the coattails of history makers and his ship.
Speaker 1: Jao was all raps. Jail got where he was because
Speaker 1: Jail was rapping raps.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was very impressed by the by the by
Speaker 5: the lyrical skills.
Speaker 4: And we not go we not go going because we
Speaker 4: got this mixey slick show today. But Jail, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: tell you this, he's a rapping ass nigga. I saw
Speaker 4: Jail Felony light twenty niggas up in Compton one day,
Speaker 4: like on some rap like I'm being for real. We
Speaker 4: the homie big A had a record store called Underworld
Speaker 4: Records and Compton and he used to bring the stage
Speaker 4: out there in the parking lot. So he had like
Speaker 4: big A was all always the nigga. He had the
Speaker 4: hot boys come through there. So he got Jail up there.
Speaker 4: It's about one hundred niggas outside, you know, a bunch
Speaker 4: of little rapping niggas, and so Jay up there doing
Speaker 4: this one two y up there doing this shit. You know,
Speaker 4: Jail is a real high strung nigga. Anyway, he looked
Speaker 4: at the audience like this to say, oh, y'all the
Speaker 4: niggas rap who all here think they can rap?
Speaker 3: Bring y'all up.
Speaker 4: I'm a fuck y'all up real quick. Niggas one by one,
Speaker 4: dog and niggas was getting shut down. Dog, I'm talking
Speaker 4: about it. It was some niggas out that they can rap,
Speaker 4: and he was just shutting these motherfuckers down like like
Speaker 4: Dominoes my nigga Bin bin Bin Bin bin. And it
Speaker 4: was just like this, And I say, that's a rapping
Speaker 4: ass nigga right there. Yeah, And it was all on
Speaker 4: some freestyle shit like them niggas could be. He wasn't
Speaker 4: even in its range. But we gonna come on back
Speaker 4: to you, all right. So you're doing your thing in
Speaker 4: San Diego, man, and you're starting to come up to La.
Speaker 4: Now you're starting to creep.
Speaker 1: Up there, you creeping, I'm creeping.
Speaker 3: What kind of reception was you're getting the first dog?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: I think niggas kind of knew that I was, that
Speaker 1: I was, that I was more than just some blood
Speaker 1: nigga from Dango. You feel me because I wasn't moving
Speaker 1: like that. I know how to respect niggas and I
Speaker 1: knew where I was at and a lot of times,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think got me a lot over
Speaker 1: being in La eight. I used to be by myself
Speaker 1: a lot. I used to come with a lot of
Speaker 1: niggas sometimes, but other times I'll be by myself. So
Speaker 1: what you do when you come by yourself is for one,
Speaker 1: you ain't no threat, and then for two niggas to
Speaker 1: let you in. Some places, they might not let you
Speaker 1: on your homeboys in they don't know them, they know you,
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker might be like, ah, slick out by yourself.
Speaker 1: Come they gonna bring you extra just to not leave
Speaker 1: you out. You feel me, and that's what I felt.
Speaker 1: If I learned work from me being in La and
Speaker 1: I build my my relationship with niggas just on regular
Speaker 1: niggas shit, not on rap shit.
Speaker 3: And you ain't out with feel the agony with crying
Speaker 3: down time together.
Speaker 1: In the first years, Man, I'm over. There were really
Speaker 1: over there in the mass fields and I'm walking. I
Speaker 1: walk around the mass fields and go to the stove
Speaker 1: to shop. I fuck with all them little niggas over
Speaker 1: there at the time. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: beat Dolo And even at times I even had the homies.
Speaker 1: I had the homies fucking with them niggas over there,
Speaker 1: Diego bloves fucking with homies over there. They all show
Speaker 1: love because when they would come to Daego, I would
Speaker 1: show them love exactly.
Speaker 4: Respect carry you a long way, bro, Respect definitely carry
Speaker 4: you a long way. So you're doing your thing, man,
Speaker 4: and you down here, and you was actually selling records.
Speaker 4: Like I said, you had hit, you just hitting the
Speaker 4: billboard charts and there, and that you stayed independent for
Speaker 4: a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't. Never was an independent, never one independent.
Speaker 3: Oh you know what when y'all did the deal that
Speaker 3: we were gonna get to that in the minute.
Speaker 1: Right right, I'll show you how that go go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Actually, so you doing your thing, you're selling records. Not
Speaker 4: one of these labels ever came you.
Speaker 1: Was like, hey, man, I had met I had meetings
Speaker 1: with a few motherfuckers bruh. But what I never had
Speaker 1: is I didn't have the business. I didn't have nobody
Speaker 1: that understood the urbage and how how how the unification
Speaker 1: of an artist and the label. It ain't never the
Speaker 1: artist talking to the goddamn label himself. I never had
Speaker 1: no man in the middle that you know, they they
Speaker 1: don't know me. I'm some little burnia that's gonna go
Speaker 1: buy guns with his avesta And it was nobody in
Speaker 1: the middle. There was no one enemy.
Speaker 3: I never had time in the middle.
Speaker 5: Motherfucker gonna try to fuck you anyway, then do something because.
Speaker 1: They're working with the label, and that's the reason why
Speaker 1: they gonna give up the deal anyway. They ain't gonna
Speaker 1: just give this little nigga the bread. And I was
Speaker 1: kind of like, like I used to look at the
Speaker 1: ship that would come up when a nigga would google me,
Speaker 1: like it used to be the wrong ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like like I thought, like, you know,
Speaker 1: the fifty cent era he gets shot ten times and
Speaker 1: now he owned and you know what I'm saying, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: the realer you is the more. But shit, nigga too real,
Speaker 1: that nigga that they don't want to fuck with that
Speaker 1: especially not me directly. If it had been somebody a
Speaker 1: middleman to represent for me, if I would when I
Speaker 1: went to go do songs, with with with Ah, you know,
Speaker 1: Short Game, Wayne Little, whoever I did songs with. There
Speaker 1: was no point man talking to his manager. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was just me because niggas just
Speaker 1: fucked with me off of being a cool nigga that
Speaker 1: they know that's a real nigga from the streets. And
Speaker 1: that's the business never was there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I never I never had.
Speaker 3: That on me. So yeah, you know what it seemed like, sit.
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers hollered. You know what I'm saying, A couple
Speaker 1: of labels hollered at the time, but it never was
Speaker 1: no really like how these niggas be getting these deals
Speaker 1: and money now and all that shit.
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Everybody be getting a little bad.
Speaker 4: It's one of those things. I've always thought that Major
Speaker 4: labels because that's kind of how I got job. Major
Speaker 4: labels love clause about deniability. If they can have somebody
Speaker 4: in the middle for them, they'll let them run the ball,
Speaker 4: play and do whatever. So the minute that nigga go
Speaker 4: out there and shoot somebody or choke somebody out a pistol,
Speaker 4: whip somebody disassociated, oh that's not us. He signed the
Speaker 4: Sex and Sex and they can just let him go.
Speaker 4: But they don't never want to deal with one of y'all.
Speaker 5: Because that's the reason why we had stickers on our albums.
Speaker 5: Record labels didn't want to take They didn't want to
Speaker 5: take accountability, but they want to make money. But they
Speaker 5: ain't want to take accountability. If you talk about nigga,
Speaker 5: fuck this nigga, or I'm gonna come through doing this
Speaker 5: or this. So whatever he's saying, that's his own motherfucking thoughts.
Speaker 5: We ain't got nothing. We're gonna exploit this motherfucking put
Speaker 5: it out and make some money, but we ain't gonna
Speaker 5: take responsibility for it.
Speaker 4: They didn't want to take responsibility for you. So you
Speaker 4: thriving out here, though you're doing your thing right to
Speaker 4: a certain you know, a certain.
Speaker 1: Degree in this hard I ain't never really we didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't. We didn't get to where it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, it been a grind pretty much, the whole
Speaker 1: ride being a grind for me. So I keep it.
Speaker 4: Fuck you already fucking with him, y'all just made it
Speaker 4: official when y'all started strong arm steady right, because you
Speaker 4: was already fucking with all of them cats already. When
Speaker 4: did y'all decide we gonna get together and make this group?
Speaker 1: I guess it was like two thousand and two, three
Speaker 1: four right five era. That was the mixtape era. Remember
Speaker 1: when everybody was doing their mixtape nigga go to the
Speaker 1: swap meaning Bill the mixtapes of shit, you got dipset
Speaker 1: going crazy with the Mixhafe and Gun the mixtapes, and
Speaker 1: we basically started a mixtape group called Strong Arm Steady,
Speaker 1: And it was basically all the niggas that was in
Speaker 1: that little crew over there. This was just a brand.
Speaker 1: It was a brand basically, and everybody pretty much that
Speaker 1: was on the mixtapes either had deals with sign was
Speaker 1: here there, but me Crying and Field wasn't signed. So
Speaker 1: when Exhibit went on tour, he would take Crying done,
Speaker 1: and then he started taking Crying and Field, and then
Speaker 1: he started taking me me. My position over there was
Speaker 1: like I came in a game with Sir Jinks via
Speaker 1: the Big Hommy Reef from Daga Daego via Dj Jam Okay,
Speaker 1: the Hommy rees got out the pin. He told Dj Jim,
Speaker 1: what's up, Jam, I'm trying to get in the game.
Speaker 1: I got a few artists. Jam was probably touring with
Speaker 1: Snoop or dre or Dog whoever. At the time he said, Homney,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn you on the Jinks shit around, like
Speaker 1: maybe like ninety nine or something. We start no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: probably like ninety nine we started fucking with Jinks up
Speaker 1: and coming up to La fucking with Jinks. And from
Speaker 1: that he was working on Exhibits first album, Mmm, I'm
Speaker 1: none of that second album, Forty Days and Forty Nights,
Speaker 1: That's when I started coming around.
Speaker 3: So I was just did do a lot of joints
Speaker 3: on that album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just in the movement where was going
Speaker 1: on via Reese, and Reese was with Exhibit right hand nigga,
Speaker 1: so by default, you know, shit, I kind of just
Speaker 1: felt fell in family. It wasn't like no chosen because
Speaker 1: the nigga just love how I'm rapping or some shit
Speaker 1: like that. It was just part of the crew, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because I wasn't rapping like nobody
Speaker 1: that was in that circle home me. I'm rapping like
Speaker 1: this nigga here, you feel me.
Speaker 3: That's how But you know that's what made it so dope.
Speaker 3: Dog twist on it you know, definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So and at that time, man, when y'all start a
Speaker 4: strong arm steady exhibit that came off some big ass records,
Speaker 4: like he had a cracking at that time, did you
Speaker 4: ever think that, Okay, I'm about to get up in
Speaker 4: this building now?
Speaker 3: Yah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, every fucking day I woke up every day. That's
Speaker 1: what it was all about. But I just think it's
Speaker 1: other things beyond talent, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: if i'd have had an if i'd have had anybody
Speaker 1: that was a rep for me, it was just an
Speaker 1: average level level representative. You know what I'm saying, Because
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know one of these niggas that just
Speaker 1: wrapped paid for their own shit and then just walked
Speaker 1: up the Ennerscope and Interscope gave me five hundred that
Speaker 1: I don't know who did. I don't know who.
Speaker 3: I don't know. You had to, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You had to have some kind of uh yeah, some
Speaker 5: kind of repers black. I never had a manager slab,
Speaker 5: but I had an attorney who when it came down
Speaker 5: the negotiating.
Speaker 3: Deals or whatever, like.
Speaker 5: I got signed to Epic because I went through uh
Speaker 5: techno hop. You get me as a as a small
Speaker 5: independent label, I went through techno Hop and then fortunately
Speaker 5: when the ship got the cracking tech no Hop was
Speaker 5: able to walk over there and go, hey see, I
Speaker 5: got eight, I got Count's most wanted, I had Iced Tea,
Speaker 5: I had King Tea. So right then and there they
Speaker 5: was like, oh, well shit, this gangster shit is getting cracking.
Speaker 5: So I went through via techno hop via he got
Speaker 5: somebody and bingo.
Speaker 3: They got a deal.
Speaker 5: But it was all a motherfucker's circle and I never
Speaker 5: you get me. But I was just a motherfucker who
Speaker 5: at the time, I just wanted to rap.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 5: I didn't know the technicalities and all that bullshit and
Speaker 5: publishing and managers and contracts and all that other shit.
Speaker 5: I was just a nigga who wanted to grid a
Speaker 5: mic and spit. I'm gonna rap about the neighborhood, about
Speaker 5: what we go through as hood niggas, and so all
Speaker 5: those niggas take a piece of the pie and shit.
Speaker 5: And that's what's so fucked up at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, because you the artists who writeing and putting
Speaker 5: your heart and soul into your music.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day you getting fucked.
Speaker 5: So I get it, you know, the representation, because then
Speaker 5: there would have been somebody that's been able to go like,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna go over here and talk to
Speaker 5: Atlantic or I'm gonna go talk to motherfuckering exactly, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, So the cold part about it not to.
Speaker 5: Cut you off, bro, I had to go all the
Speaker 5: way to New York get I didn't get my dalva here.
Speaker 5: We had to jump on the plane and go to
Speaker 5: New York.
Speaker 4: But what a lot of niggas don't know is that
Speaker 4: it's probably qualified management like a motherfucker out here. But
Speaker 4: they look at certain niggas and I'm like, well, they
Speaker 4: doing it already. I don't think they need my help.
Speaker 1: That was another part too, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's another part too. I wasn't thinking. Mon I used
Speaker 1: to be talking as indepennis shit. Niggas would interview me,
Speaker 1: and all I would talk about is, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: my own label and I'm doing it. I'm just doing
Speaker 1: that because that's what I'm seeing, you know, master p
Speaker 1: and cash money. That's what they're saying. I'm not really understanding,
Speaker 1: Like nigga, you telling every you telling every nigga that
Speaker 1: would want to give you a de nigga that you're straight.
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure that had a lot to do
Speaker 1: with it, because the nigga was riding around here looking
Speaker 1: like I was straight too, though, cause niggas was outside
Speaker 1: getting to the back and do it all the ship.
Speaker 1: So I'm basically anybody that wanted he ain't gonna sign.
Speaker 3: He even for eight.
Speaker 4: It's probably a big ass management company and in the building.
Speaker 4: I would love to have him ate, but like thinking, well,
Speaker 4: I'm sure he already has management, and this.
Speaker 3: I didn't have no management. I was like, fuck.
Speaker 5: I used to tell niggas, man, what you what you
Speaker 5: need to call the manager for? Straight up the negoti
Speaker 5: ate what nigga hell for your booet.
Speaker 3: Here I am?
Speaker 5: And then I got to give up fifteen percent or
Speaker 5: some ship.
Speaker 3: Like that for a nigga to go. Yeah, he'll be there.
Speaker 5: I can tell a nigga my damnself, Yeah, nigga, I'll
Speaker 5: be there. Or what picked me up at the flights like, okay,
Speaker 5: cargo please kill man, please, nigga car? What kind of
Speaker 5: car they driving?
Speaker 3: Okay? What hotel I'm staying at? Okay?
Speaker 5: Oh, nigga, we set send the motherfucking deposit, nigga.
Speaker 1: And we cracking.
Speaker 5: But sometimes I call it sometimes y'all. Sometimes you need
Speaker 5: a buffer, though, because sometimes I don't feel like sitting
Speaker 5: on the phone with some niggas who want to be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, and you know, uh, we're gonna do the
Speaker 5: radio ship whoopy whoop, and then you know, I want
Speaker 5: him to go over here and do this and that,
Speaker 5: and then after he go to the hotel, we want
Speaker 5: to Sometimes I don't want to go through all that.
Speaker 5: So it's it's sometimes it's beneficial to have a manager
Speaker 5: and ship to negotiate ship. But yeah, you know, but
Speaker 5: they gotta eat what they kill. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, what they killed. So you're doing your thing?
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Did you ever get frustrated? Frustrated? Right, damn man?
Speaker 1: Frustrated the whole months.
Speaker 3: Say this shit, This shit still goes on.
Speaker 1: I ain't really got to do. I ain't really got
Speaker 1: to do what I know I can do, though, and
Speaker 1: I understand what it is and why. You know, it
Speaker 1: was a time I came in. Come on, bro, my
Speaker 1: first one. You figure when Tree came out eight you
Speaker 1: probably know very well because you was in the race already.
Speaker 1: Look at all the shit that was not going on
Speaker 1: at that time when I came. Just think two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, two thousand and two, two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: after Pop died, hummie, shit, who came after that?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you who came it shit Nigga went
Speaker 1: Pop a little bit exhibit and then it was game Kendrick.
Speaker 1: Just think of all them years and then when the
Speaker 1: Kendrick come to what like twenty twelve, So you figure
Speaker 1: it's like three niggas for like ten years.
Speaker 3: Yeah Snoop Dogg too.
Speaker 1: No, No, they already cracking. I'm talking about when I
Speaker 1: came out, Like who made it? That's me and Glasses class.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know what who during that time because Glasses
Speaker 4: had a tremendous buzz man and it was almost like
Speaker 4: it was almost at a time out here, if you
Speaker 4: didn't come off that doctor Dre family family, it was
Speaker 4: impossible we should.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a lot of us uh uh uh
Speaker 5: struggled from that from that aspect.
Speaker 1: After Park, it was like everybody else didn't want to
Speaker 1: on the West Coast, Nigga tripping Biggie happened.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of a lot.
Speaker 5: Of labels, uh disassociated themselves with my class West Coast
Speaker 5: music during that time. I caught the beginning of it
Speaker 5: because at the end of my major label run, they
Speaker 5: were skept to go a fucking with our music. It
Speaker 5: was either you switched up the style or basically you
Speaker 5: got shelved or whatever. Yeah, with the Park situation and
Speaker 5: with Death Row, and then you know a lot of
Speaker 5: the a lot of the parent companies decide and like,
Speaker 5: we don't want to touch that ship. It was hard
Speaker 5: to get you know. It was a long Yeah, it
Speaker 5: was a long time.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: You gotta look at that period between, like he said,
Speaker 5: between Park dying and Biggie dying West Coast music kind
Speaker 5: of like because it was our format, you get me.
Speaker 5: Our reputation was that type of music. Think about it
Speaker 5: even still to this day. Man, you get the young
Speaker 5: boy man, what's it pop smoke come out here and
Speaker 5: get murdered. Look doing his thing, dog and get murdered.
Speaker 5: Right then you had a P and B rock cat
Speaker 5: out here, he had a restaurant.
Speaker 3: He get killed.
Speaker 5: Man, Now that ain't to me. That ain't got shit
Speaker 5: to do with hip hop. I just got to do
Speaker 5: with niggas is greedy and niggas is hungry niche.
Speaker 3: Niggas been like that forever.
Speaker 5: And you don't hear Biden you you hear about the
Speaker 5: ship now because of the celebrity status of whatever in
Speaker 5: the internet. Get me, But man, niggas been Niggas been
Speaker 5: dying and getting killed and all that type of shit.
Speaker 5: As far as getting jacked and getting set up and
Speaker 5: all that type of shit. Uh, that's been going on
Speaker 5: since I started walking the streets.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 5: Nowadays, it's it's it's more easy, though, to set yourself
Speaker 5: up for some bullshit. You just like I said, you
Speaker 5: go to certain places. You got to know your surroundings
Speaker 5: and what you know. I never went to nobody's town
Speaker 5: trying to floss and be you extra with it.
Speaker 1: I'm not from here. I'm not from here.
Speaker 4: You give me respect everybody. You gotta respect everybody. Have
Speaker 4: you ever had somebody come down to Diego and just
Speaker 4: thought it was sweet.
Speaker 1: A lot of niggas came in San Diego and thought
Speaker 1: it was sweet.
Speaker 3: But you know, and when it was treacherous, I knew it.
Speaker 5: I used to tell motherfucking the lake, oh no, we
Speaker 5: can't go there. San Diego was a place. I used
Speaker 5: to be like, oh, no, we're not going down there.
Speaker 5: Them niggas down there's treacherous, like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: We didn't know rat so all the same, and I
Speaker 1: say we I'm gonna say the niggas right generation.
Speaker 5: We came down there once to do something. Man, I'm
Speaker 5: talking about nigga. I was like, Oh no, we can't
Speaker 5: go down there. I had to tell I had to
Speaker 5: tell that, you know, motherfuckers who didn't know about shit,
Speaker 5: because people thought like San Diego was tourist town. You know,
Speaker 5: you hear about the waterfront and all that shit. Nigga please.
Speaker 5: I used to go down there with my cub and no.
Speaker 5: So when I started rapping, and especially when we got
Speaker 5: to the the real like conference, most wanted music to
Speaker 5: drive by type of shit, and the labels used to
Speaker 5: be like, Yeah, we're gonna go down there doing any
Speaker 5: store and boom, we won't. I used to be like, Nah,
Speaker 5: we're not going down there. Were going down there. You're
Speaker 5: not taking me down there with motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about a lot of shit.
Speaker 5: You're not taking me down there myself, And got taking
Speaker 5: me down there with those two white reps of the
Speaker 5: bad and ship and what motherfucking security goods?
Speaker 3: Man, we're gonna get rapped up out of that motherfuck.
Speaker 1: Let me just say it like this on me. Every
Speaker 1: artist then had an issue, all our favorite rappers and
Speaker 1: had issues at Diego. And what I'll say it is
Speaker 1: not no digo l a thing. It's that for so
Speaker 1: long San Diego didn't know nothing about the rap shit,
Speaker 1: so when they see niggas as gang members, they would
Speaker 1: just look at it like that's just.
Speaker 3: A game manber that ain't no rapping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gang banging.
Speaker 3: You got that ship at home.
Speaker 5: Though, when I saw when I started rapping, uh yeah, nigga,
Speaker 5: I had little videos and songs out and ship, but
Speaker 5: still Nigga was affiliated when I started rapping. So it
Speaker 5: was like, I can't go over there and sign no
Speaker 5: motherfucking autographs.
Speaker 1: To the to these cribs and bloods. He's a crip.
Speaker 3: That's it that nigga.
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck about no rap, ship and
Speaker 5: no microphones. You don't get that bullshit up out of here.
Speaker 5: You can walk it up in here trying to sign
Speaker 5: some autographs.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, don't. You can't set it up like that.
Speaker 1: You can't say out. I don't say it like that.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is they they they gang. Let's say
Speaker 1: it like this. Many LA artists have gang banged against
Speaker 1: San Diego artists against gang Bang. Now they say you
Speaker 1: said run out big everybody from Easy to Dog Paund
Speaker 1: to you know, Mad Circle, all the homies because it
Speaker 1: was all active, real niggas. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know who niggas never they always for some reason,
Speaker 1: niggas always like Dub and Dago, Yeah, du Dub. Niggas
Speaker 1: always like Dub and Dago.
Speaker 3: I hear a lot of people say they like Dub Dog.
Speaker 3: I don't heard a lot of blood blood can't say
Speaker 3: they like Dub. Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't start performing in Daego until way like to once,
Speaker 5: Like you know, niggas was cool and you know you
Speaker 5: will see me and quick together.
Speaker 1: We didn't even got into it with homies and Dango
Speaker 1: like on the on the Up and Smoke tour.
Speaker 3: It was good, big.
Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of this shit happened, you know before
Speaker 1: my generation of being outside, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like like you know, when I was you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of them early years. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Now it ain't the gang banging ship is a little
Speaker 1: different because everybody got a rapper now, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So niggas ain't so like you know, you
Speaker 1: might have a rap group come to town three times
Speaker 1: a year. There was some real actual gang members. Now
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a nigga from every neighborhood come through
Speaker 1: Dago every weekend at one of these clubs. So it
Speaker 1: ain't so like you know I mean, but you know,
Speaker 1: everybody come through it.
Speaker 3: It was just different back in the days. Man.
Speaker 1: But it's the same everywhere. It ain't just Daggo niggas ship.
Speaker 1: Niggas to go anywhere. Niggas to go anywhere and need
Speaker 1: to be on San Diego shit in the motherfucker that
Speaker 1: nigga was getting banged on everywhere he went on that song.
Speaker 3: We don't see it here and everywhere.
Speaker 1: Nigga. I remember the nigga. One of the first time
Speaker 1: tours I went on niggas, some White cribs was banged
Speaker 1: on me hard. My whole set niggas in Little Rock, Arkansas.
Speaker 1: The first was Little White Cris Yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: on my hall Nebraska and they will do something to Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you can get it anywhere. It ain't it ain't.
Speaker 3: That's what I said. That's that was.
Speaker 5: That was one of the reasons why I never tried
Speaker 5: to uh bang when it came to making music. You know, niggas,
Speaker 5: niggas get it by you know, maybe you will see
Speaker 5: something on the album cover or whatever whatever, But we
Speaker 5: tried to not push it on a motherfucker when it
Speaker 5: came to C M DUB Records. I'm just gonna rap
Speaker 5: about how the hood took us under, or niggas is struggling,
Speaker 5: or you know, niggas drove by Miss Daisy or something.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna tell you. It was the crips of
Speaker 5: the Bloods who did it.
Speaker 1: You looked at the DNA of mom rap ship everything
Speaker 1: he's saying, it's just like music's drop by drop by
Speaker 1: miss That's all that inspired me to do. You ain't
Speaker 1: getting to the question this nigga right here, This is
Speaker 1: the nigga right here that made me want to do
Speaker 1: this ship. I said it a hundred times every interview.
Speaker 1: He already heard all this ship.
Speaker 3: So you was influenced. But it's a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: peop get mad.
Speaker 4: See this nigga get mad at me when I be
Speaker 4: telling him what he means is certain people, right, he
Speaker 4: get mad and me, Man, I'll be telling niggas that shit.
Speaker 4: I'm a regular nigga. I say, no, you not my nigga.
Speaker 5: Now, I've just been because he's a regular nigga.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. Let me tell you what it
Speaker 1: was about eight. What it was about a you know
Speaker 1: who was before eight. So I ain't gonna say no
Speaker 1: names and the artists and the rappers that everybody was,
Speaker 1: but the difference between him and them. Not to be
Speaker 1: ignorant or on no bullshit, but this nigga was telling
Speaker 1: the stories of what I was doing and wanting to do.
Speaker 1: I knew that he was a real member. Everybody else
Speaker 1: was gangster rappers. I knew from his raps. This ain't
Speaker 1: glorifying you, No, this is just I'm hearing the stories
Speaker 1: that I want to just talking about what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: That's what he was saying. He might not be me
Speaker 1: what he mean to me to this rapper or that
Speaker 1: rapper or whatever, but for what I was doing, this
Speaker 1: is the nigga that was talking. Nigga jumping the gate,
Speaker 1: dope sacking my nuts. Police on the trail, dogs barking,
Speaker 1: we getting away. This is the ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This Nigga was talking about. And I knew
Speaker 1: that by the way he was telling them. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's telling you how much dope is
Speaker 1: in his pocket, telling dope. Noticed that I got an
Speaker 1: eight ball and you feel me. I knew that Nigga
Speaker 1: really did the ship, and that's why I like this.
Speaker 1: Nigga and I did a lot of.
Speaker 5: I did a lot of little bullshit when I was
Speaker 5: a fucking kid. I did, like I said, I did
Speaker 5: a lot of bullshit. That if you grew up in
Speaker 5: a neighborhood where they was gang banging and you affiliated
Speaker 5: or you got put on or jumped in or whatever
Speaker 5: it was, Uh, that was life to us. We didn't
Speaker 5: see nothing else. I didn't see shit else. When I
Speaker 5: woke up every morning, it was like, Nigga, come pick
Speaker 5: me up. Were going to the hood, and all day
Speaker 5: it was just walking around the neighborhood seeing the experiences.
Speaker 5: We got jacked by the police. Niggas came through black
Speaker 5: and we was in the alley selling dope. Nigga We
Speaker 5: was hopping fences and hiding and carrying straps.
Speaker 3: Uh, nigga.
Speaker 5: We was rolling up at the gas station, at the
Speaker 5: Hamburger stand whatever it was. You know, a couple of
Speaker 5: homies who lived in other neighborhoods, nigga. We go over
Speaker 5: there and got to get into it with them, niggas
Speaker 5: because the homies live over there and they not.
Speaker 3: It was just life to me. And it wasn't like I.
Speaker 5: Was glorifying it, but I was like shit, while niggas
Speaker 5: is talking about being the freshest and the hardest MC
Speaker 5: and niggas was rapping about I'm missing, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 5: like nigga, I'm finn to talk about nigga. What happened
Speaker 5: in the hood last night?
Speaker 3: Hey, let me ask both of y'all. This's this question
Speaker 3: for both of y'all.
Speaker 4: Do y'all think man that sometimes game banging might have
Speaker 4: fucked up the music industry in La. Not saying fuck
Speaker 4: it up, because it's been a lot of niggas that
Speaker 4: have got on right. La got a very thriving music.
Speaker 5: I would say is the downfall from gang banging and
Speaker 5: music is that it doesn't sometimes it keeps us restricted
Speaker 5: from each other as far as being able to show
Speaker 5: how much respect or how much we really like fucking
Speaker 5: with a nigga or his music or whatever I said.
Speaker 5: To this day, niggas ties and their affiliations is what
Speaker 5: keep us held down.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I know that nigga.
Speaker 5: Oh you know, y'all you bump my nigga, MITCHI, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I bumped that nigga all right, you know, And that
Speaker 5: ain't because a nigga music ain't good. It's because of
Speaker 5: past affiliations and what niggas feel that they must hold true.
Speaker 3: You get me. Mc A got a show in La Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, can I get in free? Or a nigga?
Speaker 3: How many? You get me?
Speaker 5: That's how I could go to motherfucking Omaha, Nebraska and
Speaker 5: sell out every motherfucking ticket Here at home, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: have thirty niggas wanting to get in free.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 5: I could have a bomb song and niggas in motherfucking
Speaker 5: Wisconsin gonna be like, oh, nigga, that's the hardest shit.
Speaker 5: Or I just came from off tour overseas, you, nigga.
Speaker 5: I could put out a record three months ago and
Speaker 5: it's five hundred motherfuckers in there singing that motherfucker word
Speaker 5: for word over here. It's like he put out a
Speaker 5: record win you get me. It's just and like I said,
Speaker 5: I put that to because of the walks of life
Speaker 5: would come from and niggas just won't live that down
Speaker 5: as far as just having you know, that utmost respect
Speaker 5: for a niggas craft, you get me. Niggas let the
Speaker 5: affiliations in the past gang situations to hinder wanting to
Speaker 5: just respect the nigga. That's what makes me just say,
Speaker 5: fuck it. I'm gonna call up a nigga and be like, nigga,
Speaker 5: you down on my shit, you get me? Because a
Speaker 5: lot of niggas don't respect us for a.
Speaker 3: Lot of shit we've done.
Speaker 5: And like I said, and that's just because the neighborhood
Speaker 5: affiliations or pass whatever past beefs or he from here
Speaker 5: or I grew up with that niggo or I know
Speaker 5: that nigga or whatever whatever you know, you just can't
Speaker 5: get the same love sometime here.
Speaker 1: The way I feel about it is that's a deeper
Speaker 1: version of it, but a more simple version of it
Speaker 1: is now it's a little bit different, but times like
Speaker 1: recent pass up until you know the recent past. You
Speaker 1: figure if you're a blood rapper and you come out,
Speaker 1: you automatically half your fan base is just gonna go
Speaker 1: like this if you're thinking about it from a perspective,
Speaker 1: if you from the Bay, if you're from the Bay,
Speaker 1: the project right next to you might not like you
Speaker 1: because y'all funking, But a nigga an hour away don't
Speaker 1: have no reason and not fuck with you. When you
Speaker 1: a blood, a nigga across the country, you have a
Speaker 1: reason not to bump your music. So it's hard for
Speaker 1: the music to move the way it might move in
Speaker 1: the South because it might get to this hood, but
Speaker 1: then it might stop because the next it over its crippled.
Speaker 1: So it ain't gonna just move steady. You feel me?
Speaker 1: If you go and buy like an independent type of
Speaker 1: push like that, you know you a blood, You ain't
Speaker 1: You ain't really getting no like nineties two thousands. You
Speaker 1: ain't get who gonna where your shit gonna be bumping
Speaker 1: at in Long Beach.
Speaker 3: Oh man, ain't nowhere. It ain't nobody alone.
Speaker 1: Where they're gonna. So you so now, just because you
Speaker 1: a blood, there's a whole city full of niggas that
Speaker 1: ain't really gonna fuck with your music. You feel me.
Speaker 1: That's the ship I look at when I think about now.
Speaker 1: It ain't like no Long Beach niggas don't fuck with
Speaker 1: my music. I fuck a Long Beach nigga. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, game banger for fuck with the music that
Speaker 1: just go for Southern Cali period.
Speaker 4: I would say, man for more than anything else. I've
Speaker 4: been in California since nineteen eighty eight. I'm a riginally
Speaker 4: from Cleveland, Ohio, but I've been in California longer than
Speaker 4: most of my life now.
Speaker 3: I never banged.
Speaker 4: Because of that specific thing because I had too many
Speaker 4: friends I met. You know, when you play football with people,
Speaker 4: they become like your brothers. So if me messing with
Speaker 4: the homies from Long Beach insane men, I can't hang
Speaker 4: out with the homies from that might be happen to
Speaker 4: be for twenties them. I was like, man, I'm not
Speaker 4: getting involved in none of that shit because it just
Speaker 4: fuck up everything to me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like it's silly almost because I'll see cats find out
Speaker 4: they was cousins, but don't fuck with each other.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you had a lot of.
Speaker 1: That, you know what I mean, no choice. I wasn't
Speaker 1: in no situation where I got to pick none of
Speaker 1: that type of shit, whether I want to bang or
Speaker 1: nothing like that. So it's a little different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for y'all, it's a little different. See when you
Speaker 4: come out somewhere, you're seventeen right firstus you being born somewhere.
Speaker 3: It's kind of different.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: It's kind of different if a motherfucker showed up off
Speaker 5: the Greyhound from Texas somewhere at seventeen, you know, active homies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the definitely.
Speaker 5: But the choices are, you know, a little different than
Speaker 5: you growing up in the hood, and you're being expected
Speaker 5: at a certain age too. You're gonna be coming to
Speaker 5: walk through here every day and not nigga, it's time
Speaker 5: to start being affiliated.
Speaker 3: So where you from? You either from over here or
Speaker 3: you from somewhere else. Yeah, but you know you want
Speaker 3: to hear some crazy shit though. Right.
Speaker 4: One thing about living a long beach you told me
Speaker 4: this is that it's always a blood nigga there, right,
Speaker 4: it was a nigga on the team. He was a
Speaker 4: blood went to Jordan High School, went to Long Beach
Speaker 4: City College and Jordan High School is a crip school.
Speaker 4: It's a North Long Beach, right, so they should like
Speaker 4: to take me out every weekend. You know, I'm out
Speaker 4: of town nigga, right, So.
Speaker 3: He took me. He said, we're gonna go to my neighborhood.
Speaker 3: And I never knew. He went down to Wilmington the waterfront. Pirute.
Speaker 3: I get out the car and they hitting him up,
Speaker 3: like what's up? Man?
Speaker 4: They look at me like this because they was like,
Speaker 4: this is the home he played with me, So they
Speaker 4: figured I'm a Long Beach nigga. It's all these big
Speaker 4: as Polynesians like where you from?
Speaker 3: Where you from? Blamon? You're from blood and they thought
Speaker 3: they I said, Ohio.
Speaker 4: That was our first time about that. Then niggas start laughing.
Speaker 4: They said, hell, are you trying to be funny or something?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's how nigga cop p out here. Diggm
Speaker 5: from Texas and he said.
Speaker 4: You're trying to play with me or something, and the
Speaker 4: homies said, man, he's food really from Ohio.
Speaker 3: They started laughing.
Speaker 4: They said, man, I thought you Long Beach, So I
Speaker 4: don't you know, I don't know what's going on, but
Speaker 4: it made me realize, I said, man, I fuck with
Speaker 4: too many people, man, because it was blood niggas on
Speaker 4: the team. It was niggas from this side. And then
Speaker 4: once you figure out the dynamic that it's more motherfucking
Speaker 4: crips than whack crips that don't like crip games, it
Speaker 4: throw you for a loop even further. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: how do you what kind of gigs?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What kind of and it confused you with you out
Speaker 3: of town and ye, so so let me get this straight.
Speaker 3: Bloods kill bloods too, and crips still kill crips.
Speaker 1: Niggas kill niggas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, niggas kill niggas. Ship.
Speaker 3: They ain't got ship to do with blood and the
Speaker 3: cripping niggas just niggas kill niggas.
Speaker 1: Man, niggas always When when I you know, you get
Speaker 1: somebody that ain't from inside talking about they killing over colors, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't. It ain't never been about no colors. It
Speaker 1: ain't ain't. No, it be about some other ship, but
Speaker 1: that'd be the last thing and be about it be
Speaker 1: about some bitches or something before it be about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tried to Yeah that's why I try to
Speaker 5: explain to a lot of people, uh, you know who
Speaker 5: listen to my music, who get confused because that's the
Speaker 5: simplicity that they want to push. Ah, you niggas is
Speaker 5: dying over a red rag or a blue rag. And
Speaker 5: I try to tell niggas it's more deeper than that.
Speaker 5: It's it's more deeper because of the foundation of what
Speaker 5: it really is. And it's not about colors and shit.
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody motherfucking associates themselves with something. Football teams
Speaker 5: associate themselves with colors and sun and you know, all
Speaker 5: kinds of shit. So but it's never that you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, I tell you one thing broke.
Speaker 3: Poverty of motherfucker. Yeah that's yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: Poverty when you brought up with nothing. And that's and see,
Speaker 4: poverty is so universal. If you notice anywhere where they
Speaker 4: have poverty, they have what a high crime rate, they
Speaker 4: have a high murder rate because people don't have no hope.
Speaker 4: Think about you, think about it. You actually a talent
Speaker 4: man that even though it may not be the career
Speaker 4: that you necessarily wanted, it took you a lot of places, right,
Speaker 4: You've been able to make a living for yourself and
Speaker 4: your family. Right, think about the nigga that don't have
Speaker 4: no options. That's your stuck in the hood, right. He
Speaker 4: can't do nothing. He can't wrap, he can't play no football,
Speaker 4: no basketball.
Speaker 5: All he know is that that's a lot of the
Speaker 5: homies that's lost, a lot of the homies that we
Speaker 5: got buried, or a lot of the homies that we
Speaker 5: got doing life in the pin right now because he
Speaker 5: got no choices.
Speaker 4: They don't have no fucking choice, you get it. I
Speaker 4: don't have no choice in the dope game. See, we
Speaker 4: had this disillusion back in the eighties and nineties, man,
Speaker 4: that the dope game was like the to save you
Speaker 4: for the neighborhood. I don't know nobody that made it
Speaker 4: out dog. Everybody y'all know there was a big baller
Speaker 4: like they had the big cribs dog and all the
Speaker 4: cars and stuff. Most of them dudes that's either steal
Speaker 4: in prison, dead, smoked out.
Speaker 3: Did they just it wasn't no.
Speaker 1: One could be one. It ain't somewhere.
Speaker 4: You got the number one. It is one somewhere, some successful.
Speaker 4: We got to have one success story. You got the
Speaker 4: one that got away. And I'm talking about dudes that
Speaker 4: deal with high level. I'm talking about extremely high level.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: You got the cat that made got out of it, man,
Speaker 4: but he's still mentally scarred from it. Right, he lost more,
Speaker 4: way more.
Speaker 3: Than what he gained from it. You feel what I mean?
Speaker 4: That was the biggest lie ever in society, man, because
Speaker 4: I had because it had people think he made it, man,
Speaker 4: But we tore up a whole community. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have to say weeks, I was actively involved when.
Speaker 5: We got a lot we we got we got success
Speaker 5: stories myself. Nichie you oh yeah, But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of there's a lot of us who
Speaker 5: came from uh walking from the wrong side of the tracks.
Speaker 5: And like I tell motherfuckers today, I wouldn't change it
Speaker 5: for nothing because it makes you who you are, and
Speaker 5: it makes you understand shit. You know, Without gang banging
Speaker 5: and without growing up in the hood, of going through
Speaker 5: poverty and all of that, it wouldn't have made me
Speaker 5: who I am. With my kid, you feel me uh
Speaker 5: to be able to get you know, especially with a
Speaker 5: young man being able to turn him away from and
Speaker 5: let him see that there's bright shiit other it's it's
Speaker 5: a it's a brighter light at the tunnel other than
Speaker 5: what we had to go through. You know, we didn't
Speaker 5: have too many choices, you feel me. Uh, growing up
Speaker 5: in the eighties, in the early nineties, I didn't have
Speaker 5: too many choices.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: My parents tried to give a nigga a positive light.
Speaker 5: But back then, you ain't got a lot of ship
Speaker 5: that wasn't available to us. So you just had to
Speaker 5: make a way. And for us to be sitting here
Speaker 5: today and not six feet under or you know, locked
Speaker 5: down in the pen looking at another fifth.
Speaker 3: You get me. So we we are.
Speaker 5: We are the success stories of the regular You get me.
Speaker 5: We might not be sitting up with you know, one
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars and you know, private yachts and shit,
Speaker 5: but this is the success of a regular or a
Speaker 5: regular nigga from the neighborhood who a lot of motherfuckers
Speaker 5: probably thought wouldn't make it out of the situation.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 1: A lot of the homies died before we wasn't even teenagers,
Speaker 1: no mom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and a lot of homies didn't you know, grab
Speaker 5: microphones or do beats or none of that shit.
Speaker 3: So we try to be the success story for those
Speaker 3: niggas you feel me, Nia, it's a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: people that didn't make it.
Speaker 5: Man, So.
Speaker 3: Right about nah, Man, the music scene is real weird, man.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Obviously been you know, surveying the landscape right and I'm
Speaker 4: seeing these little cats, Man, good deals for having TikTok videos,
Speaker 4: for popping TikTok videos, have people doing their challenges and
Speaker 4: stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Man, where does a.
Speaker 4: Person that comes from that era, Man, where you really
Speaker 4: had to wrap and really where this stuff meant the
Speaker 4: whole lot and really where we had more bodies of
Speaker 4: work like today is a real single driven era right
Speaker 4: to where it's like a cat like you MC eight scarface,
Speaker 4: y'all ain't never been them single type of dudes. You
Speaker 4: gotta listen to the whole body of work to get
Speaker 4: the story. You know, you feel what I'm saying, maximum effect?
Speaker 4: Where do you fit in that in this landscape right now?
Speaker 1: From what I'm noticing, And I could be wrong, and
Speaker 1: the intel that I'm grabbing, the game is kind of
Speaker 1: changing right now, and you're starting to see cats that
Speaker 1: actually do make music from that angle starting to either
Speaker 1: step step back into the game or or like a
Speaker 1: lot of the g's. If you notice, man, a lot
Speaker 1: of the g's been coming back out and putting our records, man,
Speaker 1: and even getting deal was like a lot of niggas,
Speaker 1: like a lot of the main niggas. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know everybody noticed, but like we can't overlook the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, Big Mike did just win uh Grammy for
Speaker 1: Best Hip Hop Album or whatever that was. And I
Speaker 1: first might know the homie killing Mike my nigga shout
Speaker 1: out to the Homi Stack of grif Stack and Griffin
Speaker 1: from from my neighborhood out in Atlanta kind of helped me.
Speaker 1: Killing Mike make our little relationship. We got a salute
Speaker 1: to the to the hommy, and that ain't nothing that
Speaker 1: we can't notice. I think the game is kind of
Speaker 1: changing right now, no disrespect to the young artists have
Speaker 1: been making music, but some of the fans that was
Speaker 1: just following along listening to a lot of the different
Speaker 1: music because it wasn't they're starting to be able to
Speaker 1: step back and find a lot of their favorite artists
Speaker 1: right now making music, you know what I mean, even
Speaker 1: put me on record, you know, a couple of his
Speaker 1: records recently. I mean, and I know, I know it's
Speaker 1: niggas that appreciate that. The nigga like eight putting out
Speaker 1: records again, you feel me?
Speaker 3: Straight up, I don't think I think that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I think it's important that cats continue to for our
Speaker 4: records because you gotta think about it.
Speaker 3: Like now, right now, we in the era of the
Speaker 3: fifty year old b boy. Straight up.
Speaker 4: You know the way you see cats are fifty years old.
Speaker 4: Ain't like our parents fifty years old. You remember, while
Speaker 4: we's little kids, you see a nigga's fifty he got.
Speaker 3: On the collar shirt. Now you know you see fifty niggas.
Speaker 3: Your old niggas dress fresh. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: They are product of the hip hop environment. They grew
Speaker 4: up on hip hop, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: what they gonna listen to? I know me, I'm I'm
Speaker 4: like checking for no, it's a red bag. I heard
Speaker 4: the other day, man, where they took the door to
Speaker 4: explore a song and made the hook out of it,
Speaker 4: talk about bagpack, bag pack. Yeah, but I can't listen
Speaker 4: that as a grown ass man.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: I just think that this era, you know, it comes
Speaker 5: quick and is here today going tomorrow type of era
Speaker 5: where everybody rapping, but nobody's really making. So that's I
Speaker 5: think that's the difference between our era and what it
Speaker 5: is today. Today is catchy as hooky, it's gimmicky, and
Speaker 5: then a week from now, it's like, what's next. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna tell you what it is, bro, And I could
Speaker 5: put out a song and motherfucker banging that shit for
Speaker 5: the next three years. You did me as opposed to
Speaker 5: you could put out a song today and a motherfucker
Speaker 5: bang it over the next week, and then now it's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: what's the next.
Speaker 4: So yeah, this ain't you know, and this ain't no
Speaker 4: not against nobody, man, But I like some of them records,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like I thought the Homie
Speaker 4: Otch Genesis was jamming, But it's the that's the problem
Speaker 4: right there, so to speak, you feel what I mean.
Speaker 4: Ot Genesis make great songs, but they just great for
Speaker 4: that moment right there. It ain't no body of work
Speaker 4: attext to it. You feel what I mean, And it
Speaker 4: could be maybe he got that, maybe he don't. But
Speaker 4: this area has gotten so aware to where is it's
Speaker 4: almost it's crazy. Now you see cats trying they'll do anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think motherfuckers want to make songs today.
Speaker 5: I think they just want to make what's catchy, what's gimmicky,
Speaker 5: and what's you know what can give me a million
Speaker 5: billion downloads right now and a month from now. If
Speaker 5: don't nobody ever want to hear that shit again? Oh well,
Speaker 5: but you know, one positive motherfucker's.
Speaker 1: Making some bread, you know what it is. I think
Speaker 1: the little artist now, I ain't knocking their music, never
Speaker 1: knocking them, but I think a lot of times now
Speaker 1: a lot of the streams and a lot of the
Speaker 1: shit that they getting is coming from shit other than
Speaker 1: their music. So therefore the music don't last because the
Speaker 1: song wasn't even hot because of the music. The song
Speaker 1: was kind of hot because of something else that this
Speaker 1: artist did in his life, you know, because they do
Speaker 1: a lot of other things that get popular. Now you
Speaker 1: feel me, it ain't got no nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3: The song is almost like just the afterthought.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is a pro hes fucking with or you
Speaker 1: know what is this murdered trial saying?
Speaker 3: And yeah, what controversy, conflict or conspiracy?
Speaker 1: And so that's the reason why his song will be popping.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why you see all these people pop
Speaker 1: with music after they've done something else, has some other
Speaker 1: career that made them popular, whether it be a reality
Speaker 1: show or or or or was in fucked with this
Speaker 1: broad or in this movie or whatever it is. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Then he gets his career with
Speaker 1: rap because he already got he already popular.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the way I look at it, with this man,
Speaker 4: this rap is almost like a calling card anyway to
Speaker 4: do some other shit. We lived in the era right now,
Speaker 4: that's so dope, right, think about this. We can go
Speaker 4: shoot a movie next week and put it out straight up.
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. So it's so much stuff
Speaker 4: that we can do. Like I look at these young
Speaker 4: cats nigga hustle and I ain't gonna lie say what man, shit,
Speaker 4: we need to be diversifying our hustles too.
Speaker 3: Shit, damn it. You know I was talking to you
Speaker 3: earlier this week.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, we gotta get getting cameras cracking dog,
Speaker 4: get you behind that camera.
Speaker 1: We shot some movie. We did a few movies. I
Speaker 1: mean mm hmm, and we did a few movies. You
Speaker 1: gotta check them. Did you check that out?
Speaker 3: Baby?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. But that's what I'm saying, man, you.
Speaker 1: And the west Bred Diamond mean Hemmy put together called
Speaker 1: movie you gotta check it out home and we did
Speaker 1: a movie. It's on It's on Amazon Prime right now.
Speaker 1: I started sling. Johnson was in the movie. Uh me
Speaker 1: comped the minis. It was a few.
Speaker 3: A few has been getting a lot of ship lately.
Speaker 1: That nigga, that nigga did that roll homie, he lit
Speaker 1: it up and what is that started the compt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, O G two he did that. Man, you know,
Speaker 4: one of the greatest actor rappers of all time.
Speaker 1: Don't let because because I'm a I really studied this ship.
Speaker 3: Man who this man sitting right at the end of
Speaker 3: the table out there. I tell y'all niggas about this nigga.
Speaker 1: Right, No, homie, what are you talking about? My nigga?
Speaker 1: That right? The niggas.
Speaker 3: You need some help.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go over here and little one we don't
Speaker 1: give there got that. No y'all did that my nigga. No.
Speaker 4: Seeing that movie, I said, man, this nigga is probably
Speaker 4: the most gang banging this nigga in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honey, I'm listen, listen. I mean I wouldn't listen
Speaker 1: in the hood. Bro listen. It's the school in our hood,
Speaker 1: right in the middle on Skyline at sixty first Street
Speaker 1: when we was young as a creative and performing arts school.
Speaker 1: Nanda Lewis went there. Nick Cannon went a lot, A
Speaker 1: lot of actors and entertainers went to this school. Hummy,
Speaker 1: we studied hommie how to do you know? It was
Speaker 1: in the hood, so you wanted to go to the
Speaker 1: school because all little brawls run around the lytards and
Speaker 1: she was like fan. But for the street niggas, we
Speaker 1: would just take as our elected would just be you know,
Speaker 1: drama acting or something, you know, make a little skits
Speaker 1: and classes ship. So I learned ship, and I know, shit,
Speaker 1: the hommy got it off, you feel me? The hommy
Speaker 1: did that. I thought you was gonna say, like a
Speaker 1: like a cause you know Pocket act. I mean, we
Speaker 1: know Pocket, we know he could act. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm saying from a nigga that no, not just cause
Speaker 1: he said it and he went to school. You know
Speaker 1: he did his say.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 3: A good actor. He was a really good actor, you know,
Speaker 3: which is why he was such a good hip hop artist.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He was able to get
Speaker 3: that shit off. You know what I mean? You know
Speaker 3: that motherfucker. You thought he you know, he's meant business
Speaker 3: when he said what he said.
Speaker 4: The reasons I say that, man, is because you got
Speaker 4: some rappers who aren't good actors, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: E eight pulled that shit off though. And I think eight,
Speaker 4: by me knowing him a little bit, now I know
Speaker 4: why I used to always wondered why he didn't do
Speaker 4: more movies that much from probably turned down more shit
Speaker 4: just from where he was at. You know, he that's
Speaker 4: what this rap shit mean to him. He was like,
Speaker 4: ain't nobody gonna try to make me no no comedian
Speaker 4: you know, no, no, no, no cartoon character. He wouldn't
Speaker 4: having it, you know what I'm saying. So he pretty
Speaker 4: much probably sacrifice. Come on, it's not wanting to do
Speaker 4: certain shit, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't want to do a lot of funny ship.
Speaker 5: I didn't want to do a lot of Niggas was
Speaker 5: hitting me about funny ship and scripts about come of
Speaker 5: these ship and I was like, nah, man, I'm cool.
Speaker 3: So that's what really did it for me.
Speaker 1: Hey check it out, Hey tell me this right here.
Speaker 1: About minutes right. Remember when you hit the nigga at
Speaker 1: the end at the shot, right, did y'all make it
Speaker 1: a point to make sure that y'all busted ten times
Speaker 1: that you shot him ten times? Oh? Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a desert ego and the desert ego held ten bus Yeah,
Speaker 1: held it held.
Speaker 5: I said when they gave me the when they gave
Speaker 5: it to me, like, uh, when they gave me the
Speaker 5: gun earlier that day, you know, before we was getting
Speaker 5: ready to shoot the sing I was like, what the
Speaker 5: fuck is this? Because they I just came out with
Speaker 5: desert and I said, what the fuck is this? He said,
Speaker 5: And so the gun dude was like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 5: just got that. He was like, it's a Desert Eagle
Speaker 5: three fifty seven. And I said, where the fuck y'all
Speaker 5: get this shit from? So I was just fucking with
Speaker 5: it all day. So they didn't really tell me how
Speaker 5: many times to shoot the nigga. A lot of my
Speaker 5: shit was ad libbed, I guess, because you know, having
Speaker 5: a true affiliation with the neighborhood and gang banging and
Speaker 5: all that, So they didn't know.
Speaker 3: So it was.
Speaker 5: Basically on instinct or whatever I felt. So when the
Speaker 5: nigga got out the car and I shot him twice,
Speaker 5: Bob Bob and he fell. I was just like, man,
Speaker 5: this nigga still moving around and shit, nigga in the neighborhood.
Speaker 5: It ain't nobody. We just gonna I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 5: shooting the nigga until it's over with. So I just
Speaker 5: kept dumping bing bing bing of that movie.
Speaker 1: That just added on to that because I knew, like
Speaker 1: who I was dying to get one of them at
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 5: Oh Niggas soon as I left that motherfucker, and the
Speaker 5: next the next motherfucking week, nigga I was Nigga had
Speaker 5: one of their motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: It was fourteen hundred.
Speaker 5: It was about yeah, yeah, that motherfucker about fourteen fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 5: yeah that I That motherfucker was beautiful too. That motherfucker
Speaker 5: was big as a motherfucker. That big ass barrel on
Speaker 5: the end, it just sounded like pure metal.
Speaker 3: When you cocked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that part of that movie. I loved
Speaker 1: a lot of that movie, but that that right there,
Speaker 1: I was like because that made me. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: the director is gangster is a motherfucker. He made sure
Speaker 1: it was ten shots too.
Speaker 5: Oh No, I Allen and Albert was cool, but a
Speaker 5: lot of my role I got to improvise, you get me,
Speaker 5: because uh, niggas was actors, you get me. Loren's was acting,
Speaker 5: the Tyron was an actor, Jada was an actor, and
Speaker 5: and and the other niggas like too short or whatever
Speaker 5: they you know, it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: It was a lot of less role because we don't
Speaker 5: want to take away some of the authenticity from niggas
Speaker 5: being Street affiliated. So when it came down to ship
Speaker 5: that I either had to because you know, I had
Speaker 5: a lot of lines and a lot of ship. So
Speaker 5: when it came down to even ship as simple as wardrobe,
Speaker 5: I'd be like, niggas don't wear that type of ship,
Speaker 5: and niggas don't wear that. So you know, most of
Speaker 5: the time I would just wear my own ship.
Speaker 3: I wear my own ship, and I just try to.
Speaker 3: I just try. Yeah, definitely West Coast.
Speaker 1: Right now, there's supposed to be West Coast, and I
Speaker 1: really can't get into them all the way. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say the name of the show.
Speaker 3: To do that. He said, no, you're gonna put them
Speaker 3: on blast. It's everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the way you dress, what you affiliated with,
Speaker 5: what you're trying to represent that all can tell in
Speaker 5: the pattern of your clothing.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 5: Uh, you're supposed to be a hood nigga from l
Speaker 5: A or Compton or the streets period, and you West Coast,
Speaker 5: Southern California, San Diego.
Speaker 3: Ship. You ain't on a certain you.
Speaker 1: Can't do no West Coast movie. And the nigga got
Speaker 1: on tims.
Speaker 5: Just exactly definitely. You can't put on no TEMs and
Speaker 5: try to confuse it with like, you know.
Speaker 3: Who did a good job.
Speaker 4: You did a good job, And I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 4: what he did a good job. Snowfall did an excellent
Speaker 4: job for the most part of making sure that motherfuckers
Speaker 4: stayed on point. But I'm gonna tell you what that
Speaker 4: was because they had Duve see yut there. You know
Speaker 4: he was on the set making sure a lot of
Speaker 4: that stuff was on point, especially when you talk about
Speaker 4: from the point Dick Jerome is not the dude to
Speaker 4: play Uncle Jerome wasn't even from out here though, He's not.
Speaker 3: From day from Brooklyn somewhere, and he played the hell
Speaker 3: out that part. Man.
Speaker 1: I could tell he from Brooklyn.
Speaker 4: You could tell you think you don't think, I think
Speaker 4: you just given him a hard time, mixed. Uncle Jerome
Speaker 4: is singing right to you.
Speaker 1: Uncle Jerome didn't seem like no crip. I don't think
Speaker 1: he was going to West Coast India supposed to be
Speaker 1: no crip.
Speaker 3: Well, he was a nigga. They say he was a
Speaker 3: Texas nigga.
Speaker 1: A risin Okay, So that's the storyline.
Speaker 3: He was a risk Texas.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.
Speaker 4: But if you look at the eighties, that's all. It
Speaker 4: was a bunch of big country motherfuckers out here in
Speaker 4: the eighties.
Speaker 3: If you remember, he.
Speaker 4: Just come from the docks, just come from the South,
Speaker 4: early on, get it. You know, he was the early
Speaker 4: on dudes. You know, dude, no doubt. Yeah, you kind
Speaker 4: of gave me a looking at you didn't think they
Speaker 4: did a big job.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was just a situation like that,
Speaker 1: like I see, if I'm doing it, cast it and
Speaker 1: I'm doing the war joke, and it's on the West Coast,
Speaker 1: it's we're gonna come on, man, We're gonna at least
Speaker 1: see one period of case Swiss or something in the eighties.
Speaker 1: My nigga, you feel we're gonna see some kse Swiss.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see some motherfucking We're gonna see.
Speaker 4: Some I think what they overdo it, that is with
Speaker 4: the chuck tailors and stuff over Chucks and yeah, beaxactly.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: When I came out here and eighty eight niggas wasn't
Speaker 4: walking around just wearing kers and like that. Niggas was
Speaker 4: wearing Jordan's Niggas. You know what I'm saying. They was
Speaker 4: wearing Kse Swiss. They was wearing the.
Speaker 1: Gang bangers wear Chuck like active gang bangers, not gang members,
Speaker 1: gang bangers, We're Chuck Taylors, you feel me. Yeah, niggas
Speaker 1: money having thousands and hundreds of thousands of dollars, niggas
Speaker 1: wearing some you know, some Eleast and some Sergio Tikini's
Speaker 1: and something.
Speaker 4: Man, I saw more. I saw more feeler straight up.
Speaker 4: With the little silk shirts they had.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no name, it was just the silk, little
Speaker 1: silk shirts, ch silk shirts with the sideways corduroy.
Speaker 4: This way cross courts y. That's where I guess, man,
Speaker 4: where I was at. Everybody was ballers on the team.
Speaker 4: That's everybody were cross courts and at least feelers.
Speaker 3: All that everybody was draped up.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody had money.
Speaker 3: Everybody had money back then.
Speaker 1: Man, I was, but I saw it then, But I saw.
Speaker 4: It before we get up out of here. Man, what's
Speaker 4: on the agenda?
Speaker 1: Man, Man, I got I got a gang of ship
Speaker 1: going on right now, first or foremost, what I'm doing
Speaker 1: every day right now. I got a clothing line I started.
Speaker 1: Everybody got a clothing line. But I'm making some quality
Speaker 1: ship for street niggas on me, West Coast street niggas.
Speaker 1: And I say that because it's different fits and different
Speaker 1: ship everywhere. A lot of these niggas trying to fit
Speaker 1: into you know, European fashion. I ain't doing that. I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta line. It's specifically for niggas like me
Speaker 1: and the hummies. You know, I make sure I have
Speaker 1: big niggas. Shit, whatch you were? Hommy?
Speaker 4: Three four three three x man? Certain ship for us,
Speaker 4: But that's what we need. Is I going to story
Speaker 4: by a certain ship?
Speaker 1: Already know that?
Speaker 3: And all they got for us is polos Man that
Speaker 3: ships so disrespectful to.
Speaker 1: Make sure I make fours and five. I even got
Speaker 1: shipped five x in my in my life. That's good, hummies,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, it's called trip where I live. You
Speaker 1: can go to tribwilelive dot com and we hustling right there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna turn that ship into some major
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make sure I have something for the
Speaker 1: show too, you know what I'm saying, so the hommies
Speaker 1: can have it.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.
Speaker 1: And I'm working on music too, man, Like I got
Speaker 1: a lot of a few projects coming out. I've been
Speaker 1: doing like a lot of specialty projects. I just dropped
Speaker 1: the album last year with a servetted Donald and I
Speaker 1: mean they did a single on the group album. He
Speaker 1: a hard ass producer from Fresno and ship hard as
Speaker 1: fuck and no, no, no, no no wait wait Cervet
Speaker 1: is from Man, what's Servet from? He from He right
Speaker 1: there by first though. But anyway, we did an album
Speaker 1: call on, Call On. Everybody hates Mitch. Have some slaps
Speaker 1: on there, have foty on their had a jay Worthy
Speaker 1: on that thing. Shout out to the homies Fody and
Speaker 1: jay Worthy for rocking that for me.
Speaker 3: Jay Worthy, Man, I saw that boy come up. Man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, he's still gonna come up.
Speaker 5: I got a new we got he got a new single,
Speaker 5: Lot right now on see he gonna keep it g Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's my Yeah, that's my little dude right there. Nigga pee,
Speaker 5: nigga p my nigga pee, keep it moving.
Speaker 3: He a good cat man.
Speaker 1: He wanted he wanted to. He wanted to throws what
Speaker 1: I mean better, I mean, like a real homie type ship.
Speaker 3: Ain't trying to stick to that old school for Matt.
Speaker 3: He loved the old school for.
Speaker 1: Looking any any showed homage to it ninety six, ninety five.
Speaker 3: He loves that era.
Speaker 1: He shows homage to that. And yeah, he was on
Speaker 1: that album. And then I got an album uffin to
Speaker 1: put out right now. This is just straight gutter Mitchie
Speaker 1: slick shit. For all the people that might have forgot,
Speaker 1: I got it fucked up. It's called selective politicking. And
Speaker 1: it's just the raw s s something like some trigger
Speaker 1: raising station shit. Damn there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That's are you be coming up with some titles?
Speaker 1: Man? But that's the my my whole thing the whole
Speaker 1: time being concepts, you know what I'm saying, Just concepts
Speaker 1: with the the shit I'm talking about on the song,
Speaker 1: the the the the the the shit, the the it's
Speaker 1: it's concepts with me. I try to the way I
Speaker 1: learned it that you know, Urban survival syndrome is a
Speaker 1: real it's a defense plea that the's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be a clinically uh uh a clinical condition
Speaker 1: that's been diagnosed a an and and and said to
Speaker 1: be had by young chats in the street that basically
Speaker 1: especially like a fight or flight type of uh type
Speaker 1: of mental condition to where when you see it nigga
Speaker 1: walking down the street, you don't think, oh, there goes
Speaker 1: another brother, right, you know, you think shit with this?
Speaker 1: Who this nigga automatically think that you know, feel me.
Speaker 1: And that's a condition we all have coming from what
Speaker 1: we c have. It's it's connected to PTSD and ship
Speaker 1: and ship. Yeah man, I did that with Mugs that album.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, we did the album and Muggs did
Speaker 1: Irby surviv was sitting on that was like two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. Shout out to the homie DJ Mugs. We
Speaker 1: also working on some ship now. I've been I've been
Speaker 1: getting my little here and there everywhere. I'm working with
Speaker 1: the few Mike and Keys, you know, Mike and Keys
Speaker 1: and did all Nipsey ship were working right now. We
Speaker 1: just did like three songs to start our project the
Speaker 1: other day. I'm all over the place right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying because I I don't do
Speaker 1: this ship because I got to. I do this ship
Speaker 1: because I because I'm just a competitive nigga that like
Speaker 1: people to hear what I what I made and ship
Speaker 1: like that. And uh, you know, if you're laying on
Speaker 1: on some masses at this time in my career, that's
Speaker 1: cool too. But if it dumb shit, I ain't tripping.
Speaker 1: Just just some repping for my city, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: That's doll man. I know Mac Tin a big fan.
Speaker 1: That's my nigga. Man, shout out to Mac ten. Mac
Speaker 1: Ten had me come out on that uh on that
Speaker 1: uh that West Coast ship. Man, I'm a giant.
Speaker 3: Yeah that turned out real big.
Speaker 1: That was jumbo Man. That was a.
Speaker 3: That was a Mac.
Speaker 4: Turns out Mac did the metley at the end Man
Speaker 4: and all the records. I ain't realize Mac had that
Speaker 4: many records.
Speaker 1: I ain't never got to perform that. That was my
Speaker 1: That's the first time eate I ever really performed for
Speaker 1: a group of fans of what I really do. The
Speaker 1: most exactly like all the real niggas was at that show.
Speaker 1: I just want to thank the homie Mac for that opportunity. Homie,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was a good look
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Yeah it was. Man. Well, Man, we I
Speaker 3: know we don't have y'all in here for a minute tonight,
Speaker 3: but this was one of those ones.
Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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