WEBVTT - Mitchy Slick Tells the Real 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:02.040 But all right, job. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:08.080 All across the USC Compton, Watts Bay to LA come 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.760 on to California day from Owley to Valley. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.000 We represent that Keller County. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.520 So if you're keeping it real on your side of 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:20.920 your town, you tune into Gainst the Chronicles The Coronic Goals. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:22.400 We gonna tell you. 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.560 How we goals. If I lie, my notes will girl 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:26.320 like Pinocchio. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:28.440 We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.879 Gangs the Chronic Goals. 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Subscribed Against the Chronicles, leave a start rating 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:02.840 the comment Where's appening, What's happening? 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:03.360 What's up? 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.480 We'd like to welcome you to another episode of the 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:06.960 Gainst the Chronicles podcast. 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:11.160 I Am Big Still with my guy man tonight Man. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.720 We have another legendary figure up in here, man from 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:19.200 the city of San Diego. Man hit the scene Big. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.160 Man with Triggeration Station, and it seemed like he been 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.679 the mission since then. Makes you slick? Make you what's 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.319 happening with your baby doing? Man? Chilling? Man? Glads? 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.560 You can come down here, man, especially in the rain. Man, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.400 you don't you don't have like a two hour track. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.080 Man down here, man from San Diego. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.480 Man, come see y'all that ain't nothing. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.399 It's raining like a motherfucker outside. Should we appreciate you? 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:41.640 May pull up. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:42.280 I'm pulling up. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.320 I'm right, I'm about ship fifty miles from where you're 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:47.040 down there. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.200 Right, Yeah, that's a ride. Yeah, ate right by you, dog, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.560 y'all neighbors, y'all. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.600 Be saying that shit. But that's far as far as. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:56.640 A motherfucker. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:02.360 As far as a motherfucker a man. So you've man 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:03.080 in hip hop. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:03.280 Man. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.320 Hip hop is one of those careers man, to where 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.680 it's almost like the NFL. It's like the average lifespan 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.920 man average career or a rapper man is something like 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.400 one and a half two years something like that. Now, man, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.359 and you've managed to be getting busy since went since the. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.600 Nineties, right, I put my first album out in like 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.119 two thousand and one, two. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.080 Two thousand and two Trigger Ration Station, and you said 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.520 you put that out with the homies. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.919 Right strictly independent. I mean I'm talking about straight the 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.360 brown paper bag was my was my you know, my 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:41.960 label straight up. 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:42.440 Yeah. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.640 It was just us as a lot of people was 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.920 back then. A lot of brothers got together, man was 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.000 you know, the street money man street currency and put 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.920 their labels together. The distribution we was talking about wald 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.200 up the City Hall, Bayside. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.160 And all and that that them das them days. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:58.720 Yeah, if you had a little bit of paper, you 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.560 could really get some cracking man and you hit I think, shoot, 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.200 you hit the top twenty on Billboard with. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:04.919 That album, you didn't you? 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:05.640 Independent? 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.120 Yeah, Independent hurts like number thirteen something like that. Thirteen 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.960 the album in this country. That was for ourselves. I 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.680 mean we cooked it up, ourselves, promoted ourselves. Didn't know 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.320 what the fuck we was doing. Just had a team 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.560 of homies that was excited about actually being able to. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.480 Have a chance to be in the game. After watching 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.480 a lot of homies and surrounds, especially the La Homies 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.400 comped the homies do their thing, I was like for 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.200 the homies, I was like brand new shit. So we 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.919 didn't know what we were doing, but we was. We 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.320 was happy about doing it, and we pretty much just 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.440 word of mouth the project. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.880 You know, yeah, you know what, and sometimes that's the 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.200 best strategy, bro, that's the best strategy. You don't nothing 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:43.120 to beat the streets. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:48.240 Yeah, you had a word of mouth was real, real 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:52.920 official back in the days, you know, I guess, you know, 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.160 trying to be an artist, you know, coming from the 0:03:55.200 --> 0:04:00.560 neighborhoods and whatever, we saw all the accolades of being 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.360 on you know, the l L cool j's and the 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:08.560 run DMCs being on labels. So a lot of motherfuckers 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.440 thought that was the way to go. But a lot 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.720 of motherfuckers was independent, you know, coming if you look 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.960 at l A, you know, hip hop, a lot of 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:23.920 the forefathers, you know, started off independently, the Toddy. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.919 T's, the Wrecking crews, Easy started. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:35.200 Yeah, a lot of a lot of l A artists 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:41.200 started off like independent. We was on techno hop, King 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:47.359 t Ice Tea was on techno Hop. Lonzo had Crew Cut, 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.000 which was the Wrecking Crew, which was Dre and them. 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:56.000 You know, Easy had Ruthless. We was shipped. We was 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.680 kind of born and bringing on independency coming up in 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.640 in the early eighties, and ship as far as hip. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.160 Hop concern because. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.719 Labels wasn't fucking with what especially when it came to 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:14.240 our side, you know what I'm saying. Uh, you know they, 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.719 like I said, it was the run DMCs, the Houdini's, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.200 the ship like that, so uh, but when it came 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:25.200 to West Coast music, Uh, it was kind of venturing 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:26.880 into another side for them. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.160 So they was they was treacher. 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:34.840 They was terrified of niggas like us, especially grabbing a microphone, 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.400 you know, watching movies like Colors and Ship compared to 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.279 like The Warriors and Ship. You compare The Warriors to 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.039 Colors and Ship, it was a whole different Yeah. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:06:00.400 Yeah, it was cartoon like what the fuck is these 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:00.920 niggas do? 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.839 So it kind of terrified record labels from fucking with 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.800 niggas like us until it just started being too lucrative, 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:09.640 you know what I'm saying. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.520 Yeah, they had to and you know you being you 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:13.680 had two things, bro. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.760 You was from San Diego, and I think at that 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.720 time the only person that people had heard of has 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.400 some notoriety was jail right, And at that time, it 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.160 wasn't that many bloods in the business. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:29.559 It wasn't no blood. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.080 It wasn't no blood you had to around. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.400 But when I first started coming to La, man, you 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:35.680 got a man look. 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.359 Listen, Man, yeah you was at the time people was 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:38.960 really banned. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.280 Listen. I'm gonna tell you one experience. And I don't 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.400 know if being from Compton in La, y'all really can 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.240 understand what this is like on me. But imagine I 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:53.839 got to explain to imagine in La if a gang 0:06:53.920 --> 0:07:04.640 like East Coast of the sixties was bloods, imagine how 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:09.039 deep that is in the landscape of even though it 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.120 ain't as many niggas to scale. That's kind of how 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.440 San Diego was. That don't mean that you don't worry 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.160 about bloods in La just because the crips is deep, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.200 or you don't worry about you know. It ain't that 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.360 it was so few crips that no nigga crips was active. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.240 As a motherfucker San Diego. You ain't safe nigga out 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.240 here too much. But just to be coming from a 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.400 city like that. And then my first l a trip 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.000 to LA. The first day I went out to La 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.200 to get out and do my ship with Jinks. This nigga, 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.760 take me to that. That's that that summer jam where 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:44.760 the where the niggas went. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:53.000 Mm. That was your first in La. For those in La. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.680 The first day I went around La, niggas was at 0:07:55.800 --> 0:08:02.080 that summer jam and I never seen no nigga. That's 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.520 when it was about five hundred cribs nigga in one pack. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:10.200 Nigga moving around niggas and they got it in the fo. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.320 I had to stand off with them and they got 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.560 on the do MoU homies and they run up on 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.720 stage and l L was on stage and Nigga. That's 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.560 the first day I went to l A. I was like, 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.080 all right, honey, we gotta go, we gotta we gotta 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.160 rechaculate how we move in l A. And I and 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.280 I started learning how to move in La because at 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:34.560 that time, Homemy, every every wrap circle it was basically 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.200 the hood, you know what I mean? Like you know, 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.720 it wasn't like no, I mean you had death roll 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.120 or whatever. You know what I'm saying. Where it was 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.480 different niggas. But for the most parts, if you wrap 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.440 with eight and them you and Compton with the crips, 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.319 if you rap with mag T and you a nigga 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.680 would with the if you wrap with quick you would 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.600 you know, you were comp San Diego nigga and just 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.400 come to La where I'm you know. And so the 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.880 niggas that kind of open their arms to me, Hommy 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:05.760 was niggas that wasn't really gang members artists. So that'd 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:06.920 be like the alcoholics. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:08.840 Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna say. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.480 You always had alcoholics. That's how I met crime and 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.640 feeling all them from being in the arena of niggas 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.000 that was just about rapping on you. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.000 I mean, that's what I was gonna say. You had 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:18.720 a lot of love. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.720 As crazy as it is, you was a gangster rapper, 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.040 but you had a lot of love from the underground cats. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:24.080 That's from that. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.080 That's from yeah, because at that time Exhibit people, I 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.560 think people seem to forget that Exhibit had the whole 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.040 career before he was with Dre right, you know, it 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.520 was King t and put him on and they was 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.640 just the homies. They was just the rapping niggas, you 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.199 know what I mean. It wasn't really no gang, you know, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.960 they was the crew. Was the crew, Yeah, yeah, definitely. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.000 You didn't look at them as gang bangers like that. 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.040 But when you saw like CMW, you knew them some crips, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:49.880 you know what I'm saying. When you saw quicken Than 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:50.439 you knew. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.760 Them, the pirut homeless, and when you saw. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.400 You know whoever else, you knew where they was from. 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.880 You know the Snoop and them Snoopers from twenties and 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:57.520 Long Beach. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.720 You pretty much knew everybody's gang affiliation. But then with 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.200 the kids, rads, cans and exhibiting. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.880 Them was like barbershop. I like to call them the 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.800 what was my boys? The wake Up show Cats? 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.160 Hey them Nick, listen, I'm my first one of my 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.040 first trips to l A. These niggas take me to 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:15.960 the wake Up Show. Hey, they got me on the 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.320 wake Up Show busting. I don't even know who these 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.720 niggas is. I'm just thinking we rapping this sh nigga, 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.360 I'm on the wake Up Show. But the way that 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.040 jocks you miss the fab I was so green to 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.719 the to the ship, but that's the only place. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.200 You had to have some time, and you had to 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.160 have some bars up there for swinging tickets. 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.800 They had didn't even know it on me. I just 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.560 thought I was rapping, just that's just what I gotta do. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.280 That's the beauty of of of Like you said, when 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.640 you're being when you're able to come into the ship 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.160 without the gang affiliation and niggas just trying to hear 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.480 you on some rap ship. I mean because I was 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:53.720 on just hip hop ship. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:54.480 I did me. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.079 I wasn't trying to uh. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:05.720 Be associated as far as my music was concerned, I 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:06.760 was hip hop man. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.120 The vocabulary that she was using was even hip hop. 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.920 Just I just you know, because nigga was already doing 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.360 the hood ship and and like I said, a lot 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:23.439 of a lot of uh, a lot of my heroes 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.480 was from the East Coast, you get me. I grew 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.040 up listening to L L and Cool mo O d 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:35.000 and and and those dudes. And so when you were 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.160 able to listen to them just focus on hip hop, 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.360 it was able to keep me away from the gang 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.280 affiliation in my music. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:44.920 You get me. 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.160 That part was just because the nigga was banging already. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.880 You get me. I'm I'm nigga. It wasn't about trying 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:59.240 to image nigga. Khakis was cheap, you get me. T 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:04.800 shirts was cheap. Fucking Cortez was cheap, so that was all. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.640 That was our peril. You get me, and especially when you. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.760 Ain't got moms or dad buying. 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:16.160 Your clothes and you already walking around fourteen fifteen affiliated nigga, 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.720 I don't give a fuck about rapping or nothing. 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:19.079 Nigga. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:24.479 The tire is finna be a sweatshirt, khakis and motherfucking cortez. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.640 He and I would say at that time too, eight 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.880 wasn't nobody really because gang banging was so serious at 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.559 that time. Whatn't everybody knew we could really kick off? 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.400 So you didn't really hear people talking about their neighborhoods 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:37.319 on records like that. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.480 You never know where a nigga was even from. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.520 Yeah, I didn't. I didn't want to do. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.800 I didn't want to do color shit on the records 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.880 because I wanted to talk about every nigga that was 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:55.959 gang banging, right, I didn't. I didn't just go fuck that. 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.959 I'm just gonna focus on the crypt niggas. I knew 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.880 blood homies was banging my ship too, so I didn't 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.880 want to alienate them. B going, man, all this nigga 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.360 talking about is crypt is crypt that crypt that crypt that. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.560 So we didn't do that. 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.520 We just was like in the neighborhood, this would go 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.120 down in the neighborhood. This would go down, I know 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.360 in my neighborhood to go down, So it got to 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.719 go down in your neighborhood. So we as count as 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:26.199 most wanted never focused on like you know, we was like, nigga, 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.480 we've been we already there with that. So we're trying 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.880 to we're trying to capture some of that world wide 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:35.720 ship right now. And you can't, uh, you can't alienate 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:36.760 I learned that ship. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:37.120 Man. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:42.120 You can't just alienate motherfuckers. Cause everybody was coming to 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.679 the shows and I go out in the audience, Nigga, 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.280 it was crips, it was bloods, it was Mexicans, it 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:48.280 was it was. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:52.400 Everything had a blood. You had a blood. Mike T 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.319 was a blood. He was from the neighborhood. Mike T 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:55.920 was from. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:58.719 That's what I came for. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.720 Yeah, Mike T was from Inglewood. 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.960 But what fuck me up is we're gonna, I know, 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.240 we're gonna get to this part of the ship, but 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.400 when we do, we're gonna have to come back to 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.320 to hear him say everything that he said and for 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.880 that to be so much my understanding of how I 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.760 was gonna make music. You will understand why that's so 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.200 important to me. Later on that he said this, you 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.080 know what I'm saying in a minute, but like, that's 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.680 the same approach I had home. I wanted. I didn't want. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.280 This is what I just say. I want niggas to 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.160 be able to bump my ship to the crip picnic 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:35.440 exactly because you know, if you're saying certain ship, they're 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:36.400 not gonna play your ship. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.200 They're not gonna do it. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.520 I don't say blood one time on my trigger ration station, 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:45.880 my nigga, not one time on the whole album. 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.400 On whole album to say blood. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.600 One time, and they, oh, that's the most gangs and ship, Yeah, nigga, 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.120 I don't. It's a bunch of sh I didn't even 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.120 really cuss that much on the album. M I wanted 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.000 to be able to slap my ship, you know what 0:14:58.040 --> 0:14:59.040 I'm saying everywhere? 0:14:59.080 --> 0:14:59.920 And it worked for you. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:00.280 Yeah. 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.000 And let me ask, cause you spent some time in Texas, 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.400 right man. You was down in Prairie. You was playing football. 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.480 I didn't. I didn't play football at Prairie. I played 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.480 football cause I went down there two different times. I 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.680 went down there in high school, I was fucking up 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.040 in San Diego and at the time I was playing 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.760 quarterback for Lincoln. They got into some shit with it, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.200 you know, young It was legendary scrap between me and 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.360 one of the young reptable San Diego niggas. Uh. Shout 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.280 out to the hommie Popper Hommy from from from Skylin 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.160 Homy to hommy, God life right now, but shout out 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.840 to the hommy. You know, I always give shout out 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.800 to the niggas. I ran into alone the way, cause 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.640 they helped make me who I am today. You feel me. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.240 It was a big rumble. Mom's found out and that's 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.600 when I kind of got ah. You know. It was 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.000 kind of out there. Nigga was doing this shit outside 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.200 and Mom sent my ass to text or something. I 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.040 was in the tenth grade and she was like, nigga, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:50.280 y you you doing too much. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:51.920 Yeah, she was trying to save your life. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.200 She was like, you doing too much, my nigga. And 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.280 I told the story before, but it's such a good one. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:57.800 I gotta tell her. That's what I do or tell 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.960 stories on me for sure. So Mom's just like she 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.960 in her mind, she like my nigga finished start this 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.840 gang banging shit. If Finna get him out of here 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:09.200 before nigga being already active since the fucking elementary. But 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.880 she get me out of there right, Send me to 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.600 my auntie house. Really, it's my mama's cousin. They grew 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.120 up like sisters in love with Texas. I fly down there, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.240 I get off the plane and hop in the car 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:22.680 where her She take me home. I'm trying to get 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.320 away from this shit right in her neighborhood. My mom 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:26.880 and then grew up with. It's a park up there. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.800 It's that. I think it's a it's by Dunball High School. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.760 Were coming home when we coming to the pat Nigga, 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.720 it's about thirty crips up at the park. Having an 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:40.240 initiation in the neighborhood in Texas in like ninety one, 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:45.080 ninety two, the thirties was out there, and like the 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.520 Denver Lanes in the thirties was out in Texas. Love 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.480 of Texas in like ninety two, and them niggas was active. 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.720 Them niggas was. They were so excited about that game. 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.040 I was like, damn, Mom's just send me out here. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.160 I'm right in the middle of this and all the crip. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.280 Little niggas in my neighborhood was kind of watching me 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.720 on how to you know, do the gangster shit, so 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.320 they didn't trip off me cause it was just me 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.760 and they was deep as a motherfucker. But yeah, Mom 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.439 sent me to Texas. That was the first time. And 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.040 then after I finished high school and all that shit, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.359 I'm down there the second time and I went to Prayerview. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:20.240 That's when I went to prayer. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.040 You you went to prayer Who made you want to 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:22.920 go down to Praier View. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.399 Well, what it was for me is I always be 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.680 hating explaining this part too, but I for y'all to 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.080 understand my story is which y'all should want to do 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.159 if y'all watching this shit, is I always tell this 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.000 part of the story, but I don't want nobody to 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:40.680 get it mixed up like I'm glorifying being a street 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.199 nigga and not going to college. But I understand and 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.000 I know that any nigga I ever know that went 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.479 to an HBCU, he was different than how I am. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.679 So I tell niggas for y'all to understand the magnitude 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.639 of me going to college. I'm not nigga I'm like, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.840 not like no nigga that you ever knew that went 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.320 off to college at the time. Nigga, I'm straight number 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.080 one shot the you know what I'm saying front number 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.040 one guy in the turf before I went off to motherfucker. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.080 It was. It was. It was some shit, homie. It 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.119 was the best experience I ever had in my life. 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.320 But I really was not no nigga that was on 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.880 his way to college. So I say that so y'all 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.800 don't misunderstand who Mitchie Slicky is. Yeah, I'm intelligence nigga, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.600 I think, and I wish I would have stayed in 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.680 school and did all that shit, But I'm not a 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.800 nigga that y'all would have ever had imagined. And the 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.760 shit I was doing, they ended up leaving off the 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.399 going to college. But I did that shit on me 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.399 and I learned a lot of shit, open up my 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.560 eyes a lot of shit and let me know that. 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.360 It let me know about being considerate an other shit 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.280 in the world. Because the shit I thought was the 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:49.840 shit it it it. It didn't mean shit down there, 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.359 and when I got there, it was shit that we 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.240 didn't give a fuck about here that meant everything out 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:59.560 there like like like fraternities and sororities, the magnitude that 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.760 they had on the South and all that shit. We 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:03.800 don't do that out here. We won't even understand that 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.240 if you damn it, couldn't get a bitch if you 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.080 wasn't from some ship out there. 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.280 You know, if you' if you ain't a camp. They 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.840 real strong on ship down in the South. I mean 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.800 not to say we don't got our values as far 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:23.440 as being I think every you know nigga that come 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.840 from all walks of life, especially from that time era, 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.639 because it's kind of different now, you know what I'm saying, 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.400 a lot of niggas who came from that time era, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.280 we had some sort of you know, respect and honor 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.920 about the shit, even though motherfuckers looked at us as 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.960 gang banging and whatever you had it. We just had 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:48.000 a different way of of how shit is. Like you said, 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.119 you go down there, they real heavy with the sororities 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.560 and all of that. Well that's how we took being 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:55.600 from the neighborhood. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:56.680 We have real. 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:00.760 Respect back then and pride about it. And it's just 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:02.680 kind of different now, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.240 Careful, I'm surprised you men become a capita down there, And. 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.280 I see, I didn't really fall in. I was the 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.240 one Cali nigga with the Kakis in the chucks on, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:10.800 just at. 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:11.960 School, kind of by myself. 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.680 I didn't really fall into mingling with all the social ship, 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:16.800 you know what I'm saying. But a few niggas that 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:18.520 was down there, I deal with him. And you hung 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.639 out with the homies. You got money down there with 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:22.440 a couple niggas too. While I was down there and ship, 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.399 that's what I actually went forward. I was fucking up 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:27.080 at home and Mom's basically was like, look, you don't 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:31.000 graduate from high school, you ain't going to school right now, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.800 you ain't working right now. I'm a full fledged eight. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.640 I'm outside, I'm yeah riding hl. 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:42.600 They try to and the moms is gonna always pretend 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:46.399 like they here and they see little shit, but they 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.119 still gonna ride it down to the last tried to, 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.880 I gotta steer you, but you already like full. 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.400 Fledge one hundred percent outside. 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.399 They kind of know it, but they don't want to, 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:02.600 so they still try to them last efforts to get 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:02.959 you out. 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.320 Moms will always try to make sure her baby you 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.320 gotta remember they don't walked around for a whole year. 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.040 I used to come to the crib. 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.159 Nigga homies used to drop me off low riders in 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.879 the front, niggas jumping now five and six deep. 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:19.159 You know. 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.760 And and we used to have beef with where where 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:26.199 nigga lived at. So it was always some hesitation and 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:30.399 some friction, and moms used to just, oh, no, he 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.520 don't gang bang my son on gang bang now. I 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:37.080 used to walk in the house with fucking coats and 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.399 Ship the hood up with the hood all on the 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.879 back of them, and sweatshirts and belt buckles with the 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.680 hood on them, and every and she see pictures all 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:54.280 in the nigga roomed and took the Yeah, they they 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.480 protect you to the fullish man to the end of 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:56.960 the line. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.439 And Ship told me, look, you you you ain't you, 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:04.840 You ain't working, you ain't going to school. You gonna do? 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.160 You gotta do one or the other. And at the time, 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.080 one of my best homies had just recently got killed, 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:16.560 and niggas was niggas went crazy and for six months 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:18.879 was passed. After he died, all the homies was in 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.840 jail and they was still own homie and I'm kind 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.919 of really just out in Dago by myself, really without 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:28.040 the homies and the other side, and I was like, 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:30.200 what the fuck I'm gonna do. I ain't finna be 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.480 sitting up in no job every day. And Dago the 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:36.600 niggas fok around and applied to a couple of schools 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.480 on me and Prayerview excepted me. My whole family had 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.080 went to Prayerview before me, you know what I mean, 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.040 my mom and my daddy, my grandparents, my uncles, all 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:44.800 that shit went there. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:46.120 People. 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.120 Yeah, Primo. As a matter of fact, Primo got a nephew, 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.639 Primo and then from from Prayerview, and he got a 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:57.040 nephew just that produced on my new album. Primo got it. 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:57.960 He produced a lot. 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:01.199 Of my Ship right now, man, Moms and pops and 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:03.840 all of that. Man. Yes, indeed, so you fuck with 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:04.560 Primo real. 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.439 Heavy, Primo and Hommy. But but I know that he 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.760 fucked with the Hommy real heavy. And I kind of 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.800 figured his relationship with eight when he fucked with Slick, 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.679 because I didn't did ship and hopped on Ship. I 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.280 figured he feel like kind of like a Slick, kind 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.240 of like a new Era eight far as in his 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.200 fucking around because he don't fuck with a bunch of 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.760 against the rap nigga, but he fucked with Slick. He 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:24.280 fuck with you. 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.160 Oh yeah, I've been doing Primo since. 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.240 Man, we need to get that m C eight Michie 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:34.480 Slick collabor up in this motherfucker produced by DJ Premiere. 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:38.360 We need that, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Primo is one 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.480 of them cats. Man, I've been knowing since my my 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:46.000 first start. So he's one of those dudes who I 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:50.600 can I still talk to today, not even on rap shit. Man, 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.240 I talked to Premiere about family ship and all of that, 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:57.640 you know, so uh, shout out my people's Premiere Him 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.800 and him in the Face is like, uh, two people 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:05.600 that I've been knowing for a man, since I first 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:06.560 started rapping. 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.000 And shit, you know, I never met face something. 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:14.000 I just talked to face. He called me about four 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.159 days ago. He'll be out here at the end of 0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:17.720 this month. 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:21.720 Your face still on that roads on the he's on that. Uh. 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.119 He decided to go back on tour, you know, like 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:29.160 his final round up, So he's doing dates right now. 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:33.320 He's gonna be in Santa Anna at the Garden after. 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:34.920 That uh huh. 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.480 They salute the sly drexeler Man. That's the homie Primo's 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.880 nephew DJ from me and nephew from out there. Okay, 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:43.159 for sure he dope best producer nigga down there, like 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.040 make some West Coast shit and that nigga from from 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:45.919 Prayer of You. 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:49.480 So yeah, So. 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.800 You down in Prayerview, Texas, You you getting it in. 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:54.439 You just staying low key. You're getting your little money here. 0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.280 You getting to it, but you kind of staying low key. 0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.840 I'm staying low key for show. Yeah, I'm just observing everything. 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.399 It's the first time ever I really started going to 0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.600 class real and you know, going to the library, and 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:08.560 it kind of fucked me up because I wasn't even 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:10.879 all my woke type shit at the time. I'd be 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:12.600 trying to be on it now about you know, the 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.040 world and all my peoples and all that, but at 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.960 the time, I was just a young, burned nigga fresh 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:18.080 off the trap, you know what I'm saying. 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:22.080 But all those experiences made when I'm going to class 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.120 and I'm hearing these black teachers teach me history. 0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.199 But when they teaching me history, it ain't like I 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:28.919 didn't heard it. All through high school. They teaching me 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.040 history and they telling me what my peoples is doing 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.000 during the same time that George Washington is doing whatever 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.760 he doing or whatever, the same time they making the 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.879 Emancipation Proclamation. What the white folks do, That's what they 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:41.520 tell you in the books, But they don't really tell 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.320 you what the black folks was doing because they was 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:48.280 doing shit. All these great events is happening in American history, 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.240 but we never learned what we was doing during them times. 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:52.879 And when I went to Prayer View, they was teaching 0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:53.840 us that. 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:02.440 They was teaching us how we were slaves and crazy 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.840 politics and all that. Ship were just being taught about 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:11.080 being slaves or they might give you one every now 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:11.480 and then. 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.840 That's all you heard were ways on how you're not 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:21.040 superior and just pretty much to the gregs the whole time. 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.399 That's what I felt like American history was when I 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.920 was in high school and stuff, because I took it 0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:28.560 to pump myself to go learn certain things, and I 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.400 was like you, once I went to college. 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.080 I learned even further. I exponded on that. 0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:36.560 But for the most part, it's they're almost like it's 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.200 almost like a form of buck breaking to be a 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.080 little bit like like to remind you, you know what, 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:46.679 your big strong daddy, we once had them tired, so 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:47.720 you want to stay in line. 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:51.600 It's almost like your kid and elementary and they want 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.919 to they want to teach you about how well you 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.600 was a slave and you got brought over here as 0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.680 a slave, and then you get to see and movies 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.240 how you used to get whipped and and chase after 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:05.600 and all kinds of shit and the. 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.760 One niggas that did stand up for y'all got smoked. 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.800 And so don't do that. Don't try to stand up. 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:12.520 You're gonna give it to. 0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.480 Me like it's the biggest form of bug breaking. 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:15.680 Dog. 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:16.399 That's what it is. 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:20.200 It's very it's very systematic, man, the way they do 0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.480 stuff and the way they oppress people. Right, because if 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.080 you get told your whole life that all you've been 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.879 as a slave and you wasn't shipped then and you 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.639 ain't shipping out, what you think you gon grow up 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.040 and do. I had a teacher tell me straight up 0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.120 in elementary school. White dude told me said, I don't 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:36.080 even know why you try? 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:37.000 Why are your. 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.359 What's so fun at your big ass it was like that, 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.600 why you even here? Man called outside to get a 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.760 ball and ship and we go, we're gonna pass you 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.680 right through school and ship. 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.280 And it was just you know, you hear those things 0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.600 when you were a child, man, and it has it. 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.280 Has an impact on you, definitely definitely impact you. So 0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.520 you down there, man? How long did that last? 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:03.800 Man? 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:04.120 Oh? 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.600 I went down there for like a year, hummy. And 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.760 while I was down there, my nigga got caught up 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.960 trying to get to the bag. The first time I 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.280 ever went to jail my nigga. I was in college money. 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.840 I knew something was coming. I said, yeah, I said, 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:18.880 what happened? 0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:20.920 I was down there trying to get to it, homie. 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:24.040 It's a long story, but I don't feel like going 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:30.080 into that shit could fucking okay, Look, we're gonna make 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.600 it quick. I would say it fast. The motherfucker. It 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.879 was one of them weakend's, hummy where I guess it 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.280 was a game, probably our school against Southern and somebody 0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.719 like that. All the kids come in from all over Texas. 0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.520 Some little broad haf fucking running came and didn't go home, 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.719 sixteen years old, came and didn't go home All right, 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:48.840 So they all over the campus looking for her, mama 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.680 calling down from wherever the fuck they're looking for. Okay, now, 0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:54.400 I don't know nothing about what it is at a 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.640 not shit like that anyways. All I know is one day, nigga, 0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.640 they got the dogs coming through the doors. When they 0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.360 bring the dogs to the dorms, that's either if they 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.720 finish comrade the room or they just do random checks. 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.360 Niggas up in my room. I got the screens and 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:08.880 shit in the room. You know, I've been getting to 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.280 the bag up in school. I got niggas in there 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:16.640 playing PlayStation or whatever and shit. And the motherfucking dorm 0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.320 director come to my room with the dogs, homy, and 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.760 it was smelling like weed and shit up in their Hommy. 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:23.680 Oh well, now you in Texas too. 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.960 MoMA, nigga, I'm in a fucking black college. In my 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.000 room smell like weed, and everybody run to the other 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:29.880 side leave me in there. I'm like, all right, fucking 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.680 But what had happened was the little broad was up 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.600 in this other nigga room around the corner, and I 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.480 guess she was fucking with the nigga across the hall 0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.160 from me, and these niggas knew what was going on, 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.080 so when they went to his room, he hit her 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.240 in the closet and he said, I don't. 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:42.560 Know what she at. 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.280 I think she in room. Guess whose room you seeing? 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:47.560 Yours my room. 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.000 And they came to my motherfucking room, found the weed. 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:51.959 The little girl get out and go wherever she go. 0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.640 Everybody good, hummy, and I go to jail for the 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.000 first time I ever went to jail at motherfucking call 0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.200 it when I'm just starting to kind of change and 0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.320 try to get some weed. 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.680 Yeah, Texas don't play when they come when it comes 0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.880 to weed and ship. And what year was that. That's 0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:07.720 when we talked. 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.960 About like ninety ninety five. 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.320 Oh yeah, yeah, ninety five for sure. They was looking 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:14.160 next your ass like. 0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.480 Still when they coming to the motherfucker weeds ship looking. 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.200 At your ass for some weed. They like, that's pop 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.080 right there. Nigga was bringing all. 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.800 The dope and had a nickel bag of stress and ship. 0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:28.760 Motherfucking Texas, they throw your ass under the motherfucker. 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.880 That was it, nigga, No more college for you and 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.640 on everything. I loved that nigga. That motherfucker summer. That 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:36.640 was the wildest summer I ever had in the streets 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.400 of my life. Right after I came home from college, 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.320 Nigga came right back to the block and went hammerton 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.440 straight up. Yeah, that was that. That's probably the one 0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.880 of the most fucked up things happening. Now, that's a 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:48.640 life pattern. 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.120 Yeah, summer No. 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.320 After getting sent home from college. 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.080 So you do your you do your time down there. Man, 0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.040 you come back home. When did the music bug hit? 0:30:59.120 --> 0:30:59.720 What did you say? 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.440 Man, I'm kind of nice on this microphone. 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.920 I always felt I was nice on the mic, But 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.240 I never really took doing music series because I never 0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.440 really saw it as a reality that it can happen. 0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.160 See in San Diego, you never seen no nigga make 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.440 it off rap, you feel what I'm saying. So rap 0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.280 wasn't That wasn't even something that we did like that, 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:21.800 you know. 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.400 So you in jail kind of like first generation. 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:33.040 Before Yeah, it's a couple. Yeah before us, right before 0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.920 us was gonna be like the main name was gonna 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.760 be like a hommy from from Brahms from Dago. Brahm's 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:40.400 name Gangster. 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.760 Iarn gangster were talking about gangster earlier. That's right. Yeah, 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.160 I can't you know what, I can't even say I 0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.040 knew Gangster N was a rapper. I would want to 0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.840 know him from the street shit as being a legend 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.760 theory niggas from down to San Diego. 0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.880 The true gangster Iarn probably mold on for the street 0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:00.360 ship than the rap shit. Well and Dago he wrong 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:01.280 for the street shit. 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.200 Yeah, because I know little Earn is nice, Little Earn 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:07.320 do his thing, But Gangster Earn, I just more knew 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.160 him as just one of g you know, the niggas 0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.600 got the worms down there, and shit, I just knew 0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:12.200 him as one of them. 0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:12.600 Niggas. 0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.680 Gangs was official in the streets, and he kind of 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.200 showed niggas that you could actually do this for real. 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.200 He was the first nigga we saw that was just 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.560 a regular street nigga, not no rapper, just a street 0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.480 nigga that took his money and put our records, you 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.120 know what I'm saying. That's kind of what started everybody 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:34.000 up on being like really into to our our our 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:38.360 street independent music right there. And niggas didn't jump right 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.479 on after that. It was a few years after niggas 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.560 got on, you know what I mean. But yeah, yeah, 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.880 it was niggas before me, before Jayo for sure. 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.880 You know what, I shouldn't I think who was the 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.440 first ones to take it like on the nationwide scale. 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.800 Let me see Nation, it's dango, hummy. We ain't really 0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.280 had nobody take it on the nation. 0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.760 Well, you know what you had, Jo did this thing. 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.920 Jail was the first nigga in the era that actually 0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:09.880 had records that was like on the radio and ship 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.600 like that. Nick Cannon had records, you know what I'm saying. 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.600 That's you know what, I forget that Nick Cannons from 0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:15.120 San Diego. 0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.880 Cannon had records and ship like that. But but far 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.240 it's just on some straight competitive ship where you hearing 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.479 this ship and then you're hearing the hummies ship come 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.280 on after that or something like that. Jail and I didn't. 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.640 I didn't really get on till long after Jail, you know. 0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:29.920 What I'm saying, Yeah, you came. 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.480 I wasn't even rapping when Jail put out that first 0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:33.880 you know stuff he had put out. 0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:36.280 Shit, damn Jail and that ship. 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.920 What year? Man? I don't even know Jane. 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.600 Well, you and a kind of like you and Jail 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:46.120 kind of from the same classes. I came way before jail. Yeah, 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:47.720 when the stick drops. 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.680 That was like in the nineties, man, I start. I 0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:55.720 mean I was like the mid nineties, maybe the end 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:59.760 something like that. I came out like, uh just most 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.560 warn Conca's most one that came out in eighty nine. 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.440 A yeah, man. 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.480 And see it's these stories, man, It's that history. Man, 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:11.799 all this shit, it's it's so much history of this ship. 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.520 That's why having brothers like you on the show is 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:18.160 important because for a lot of people. They it's a 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:19.160 lot of people that may not. 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:20.560 Even know gangster Earn Hills. 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.760 I mean, you know gangs and Iron really didn't get gangs, 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.080 and Earn passed away before he really got his full 0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:28.560 issue of getting out, you know what I'm saying like that, 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.799 But but like real budget and all that shit's gonna 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:35.719 be jail jail, you know, Jail, Ship had Ship, Jail 0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.279 had hit records with Nigga was rapping with fucking the 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:43.279 biggest niggas in the game, and ship you feel with 0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:47.600 method Man and and and who is it? Who is who? 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.400 Jam Master Jay I was. 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.880 I was kind of shocked myself to see a nigga 0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:59.080 from San Diego, uh riding with you know, jam Master 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:00.680 Jay's label and all that. 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.880 I was like, how the fuck did that happen? You know, because. 0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.680 Sometimes you you know, as an artist, you you know, 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:14.880 you uh, you quest the fuck with certain niggas, you 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:16.880 know what I'm saying. And to be able to be 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.640 on the coattails of history makers and his ship. 0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:26.439 Jao was all raps. Jail got where he was because 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:32.120 Jail was rapping raps. 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.680 Yeah, I was very impressed by the by the by 0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:35.720 the lyrical skills. 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.960 And we not go we not go going because we 0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.959 got this mixey slick show today. But Jail, I'm gonna 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.640 tell you this, he's a rapping ass nigga. I saw 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.720 Jail Felony light twenty niggas up in Compton one day, 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.120 like on some rap like I'm being for real. We 0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.360 the homie big A had a record store called Underworld 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.920 Records and Compton and he used to bring the stage 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.719 out there in the parking lot. So he had like 0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.120 big A was all always the nigga. He had the 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.719 hot boys come through there. So he got Jail up there. 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:05.759 It's about one hundred niggas outside, you know, a bunch 0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.319 of little rapping niggas, and so Jay up there doing 0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.279 this one two y up there doing this shit. You know, 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.560 Jail is a real high strung nigga. Anyway, he looked 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.160 at the audience like this to say, oh, y'all the 0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.560 niggas rap who all here think they can rap? 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:18.080 Bring y'all up. 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:22.040 I'm a fuck y'all up real quick. Niggas one by one, 0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:25.200 dog and niggas was getting shut down. Dog, I'm talking 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.120 about it. It was some niggas out that they can rap, 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.400 and he was just shutting these motherfuckers down like like 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.880 Dominoes my nigga Bin bin Bin Bin bin. And it 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:35.640 was just like this, And I say, that's a rapping 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.279 ass nigga right there. Yeah, And it was all on 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.439 some freestyle shit like them niggas could be. He wasn't 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.040 even in its range. But we gonna come on back 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.520 to you, all right. So you're doing your thing in 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:49.399 San Diego, man, and you're starting to come up to La. 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:51.040 Now you're starting to creep. 0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.160 Up there, you creeping, I'm creeping. 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.160 What kind of reception was you're getting the first dog? 0:36:58.600 --> 0:36:59.000 You know what? 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.239 I think niggas kind of knew that I was, that 0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:11.560 I was, that I was more than just some blood 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:15.040 nigga from Dango. You feel me because I wasn't moving 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.320 like that. I know how to respect niggas and I 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.800 knew where I was at and a lot of times, 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.560 you know what, I think got me a lot over 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:26.680 being in La eight. I used to be by myself 0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:29.480 a lot. I used to come with a lot of 0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:33.279 niggas sometimes, but other times I'll be by myself. So 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.719 what you do when you come by yourself is for one, 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:42.320 you ain't no threat, and then for two niggas to 0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:45.440 let you in. Some places, they might not let you 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.200 on your homeboys in they don't know them, they know you, 0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.440 and the motherfucker might be like, ah, slick out by yourself. 0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.640 Come they gonna bring you extra just to not leave 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.920 you out. You feel me, and that's what I felt. 0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.319 If I learned work from me being in La and 0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:02.440 I build my my relationship with niggas just on regular 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:03.799 niggas shit, not on rap shit. 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.560 And you ain't out with feel the agony with crying 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.359 down time together. 0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:11.839 In the first years, Man, I'm over. There were really 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:14.040 over there in the mass fields and I'm walking. I 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.080 walk around the mass fields and go to the stove 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.880 to shop. I fuck with all them little niggas over 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.600 there at the time. You know what I'm saying, I 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.560 beat Dolo And even at times I even had the homies. 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.279 I had the homies fucking with them niggas over there, 0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.960 Diego bloves fucking with homies over there. They all show 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.680 love because when they would come to Daego, I would 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.040 show them love exactly. 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:36.080 Respect carry you a long way, bro, Respect definitely carry 0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.080 you a long way. So you're doing your thing, man, 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.320 and you down here, and you was actually selling records. 0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.040 Like I said, you had hit, you just hitting the 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:47.640 billboard charts and there, and that you stayed independent for 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:48.400 a long time. 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.400 Yeah, I ain't. Never was an independent, never one independent. 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:54.680 Oh you know what when y'all did the deal that 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.480 we were gonna get to that in the minute. 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.240 Right right, I'll show you how that go go ahead. 0:38:58.360 --> 0:38:58.600 Yeah. 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.799 Actually, so you doing your thing, you're selling records. Not 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:03.680 one of these labels ever came you. 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.320 Was like, hey, man, I had met I had meetings 0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:12.040 with a few motherfuckers bruh. But what I never had 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.560 is I didn't have the business. I didn't have nobody 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.399 that understood the urbage and how how how the unification 0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:21.680 of an artist and the label. It ain't never the 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:25.919 artist talking to the goddamn label himself. I never had 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.480 no man in the middle that you know, they they 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:32.239 don't know me. I'm some little burnia that's gonna go 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.640 buy guns with his avesta And it was nobody in 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.200 the middle. There was no one enemy. 0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.040 I never had time in the middle. 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:42.440 Motherfucker gonna try to fuck you anyway, then do something because. 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:43.960 They're working with the label, and that's the reason why 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.000 they gonna give up the deal anyway. They ain't gonna 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.080 just give this little nigga the bread. And I was 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:49.719 kind of like, like I used to look at the 0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.680 ship that would come up when a nigga would google me, 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:54.520 like it used to be the wrong ship, you know 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.680 what I'm saying, Like like I thought, like, you know, 0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.880 the fifty cent era he gets shot ten times and 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.200 now he owned and you know what I'm saying, I'm thinking, 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.920 the realer you is the more. But shit, nigga too real, 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.799 that nigga that they don't want to fuck with that 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.239 especially not me directly. If it had been somebody a 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.400 middleman to represent for me, if I would when I 0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:19.360 went to go do songs, with with with Ah, you know, 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.719 Short Game, Wayne Little, whoever I did songs with. There 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:27.000 was no point man talking to his manager. You know 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.680 what I'm saying. It was just me because niggas just 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.080 fucked with me off of being a cool nigga that 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.520 they know that's a real nigga from the streets. And 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:38.399 that's the business never was there, you know what I'm saying. 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:39.800 I never I never had. 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:43.280 That on me. So yeah, you know what it seemed like, sit. 0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.200 Warner Brothers hollered. You know what I'm saying, A couple 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.080 of labels hollered at the time, but it never was 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.840 no really like how these niggas be getting these deals 0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:50.919 and money now and all that shit. 0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:52.800 I'd be like, oh yeah, definitely. 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:54.919 Everybody be getting a little bad. 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.960 It's one of those things. I've always thought that Major 0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:01.680 labels because that's kind of how I got job. Major 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:06.280 labels love clause about deniability. If they can have somebody 0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.759 in the middle for them, they'll let them run the ball, 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.200 play and do whatever. So the minute that nigga go 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.200 out there and shoot somebody or choke somebody out a pistol, 0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:19.120 whip somebody disassociated, oh that's not us. He signed the 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.160 Sex and Sex and they can just let him go. 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.160 But they don't never want to deal with one of y'all. 0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:28.040 Because that's the reason why we had stickers on our albums. 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.520 Record labels didn't want to take They didn't want to 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:36.719 take accountability, but they want to make money. But they 0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.480 ain't want to take accountability. If you talk about nigga, 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.759 fuck this nigga, or I'm gonna come through doing this 0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:47.480 or this. So whatever he's saying, that's his own motherfucking thoughts. 0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.200 We ain't got nothing. We're gonna exploit this motherfucking put 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:55.000 it out and make some money, but we ain't gonna 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:56.279 take responsibility for it. 0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.400 They didn't want to take responsibility for you. So you 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.239 thriving out here, though you're doing your thing right to 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:04.920 a certain you know, a certain. 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:06.680 Degree in this hard I ain't never really we didn't. 0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:08.840 We didn't. We didn't get to where it was just, 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.239 you know, it been a grind pretty much, the whole 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:13.640 ride being a grind for me. So I keep it. 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:17.560 Fuck you already fucking with him, y'all just made it 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.600 official when y'all started strong arm steady right, because you 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.640 was already fucking with all of them cats already. When 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.760 did y'all decide we gonna get together and make this group? 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.759 I guess it was like two thousand and two, three 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:33.160 four right five era. That was the mixtape era. Remember 0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.160 when everybody was doing their mixtape nigga go to the 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:38.440 swap meaning Bill the mixtapes of shit, you got dipset 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:41.279 going crazy with the Mixhafe and Gun the mixtapes, and 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:46.440 we basically started a mixtape group called Strong Arm Steady, 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.400 And it was basically all the niggas that was in 0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:53.280 that little crew over there. This was just a brand. 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.960 It was a brand basically, and everybody pretty much that 0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.400 was on the mixtapes either had deals with sign was 0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.160 here there, but me Crying and Field wasn't signed. So 0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.080 when Exhibit went on tour, he would take Crying done, 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.400 and then he started taking Crying and Field, and then 0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.359 he started taking me me. My position over there was 0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:17.479 like I came in a game with Sir Jinks via 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:22.280 the Big Hommy Reef from Daga Daego via Dj Jam Okay, 0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.880 the Hommy rees got out the pin. He told Dj Jim, 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:27.480 what's up, Jam, I'm trying to get in the game. 0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.880 I got a few artists. Jam was probably touring with 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.080 Snoop or dre or Dog whoever. At the time he said, Homney, 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.000 I'm gonna turn you on the Jinks shit around, like 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.399 maybe like ninety nine or something. We start no, no, no, no, 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:44.080 probably like ninety nine we started fucking with Jinks up 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.759 and coming up to La fucking with Jinks. And from 0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:54.960 that he was working on Exhibits first album, Mmm, I'm 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.359 none of that second album, Forty Days and Forty Nights, 0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.080 That's when I started coming around. 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.040 So I was just did do a lot of joints 0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:01.640 on that album. 0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:03.839 Yeah, I was just in the movement where was going 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:09.760 on via Reese, and Reese was with Exhibit right hand nigga, 0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.319 so by default, you know, shit, I kind of just 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:17.840 felt fell in family. It wasn't like no chosen because 0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:19.919 the nigga just love how I'm rapping or some shit 0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:21.600 like that. It was just part of the crew, you 0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.800 know what I'm saying, Because I wasn't rapping like nobody 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.480 that was in that circle home me. I'm rapping like 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.160 this nigga here, you feel me. 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.919 That's how But you know that's what made it so dope. 0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.560 Dog twist on it you know, definitely. 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:34.200 Yeah. 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.440 So and at that time, man, when y'all start a 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:42.719 strong arm steady exhibit that came off some big ass records, 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.440 like he had a cracking at that time, did you 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:48.440 ever think that, Okay, I'm about to get up in 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:49.080 this building now? 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:49.399 Yah? 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:54.399 Yeah, every fucking day I woke up every day. That's 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.879 what it was all about. But I just think it's 0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:03.560 other things beyond talent, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:07.120 if i'd have had an if i'd have had anybody 0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.680 that was a rep for me, it was just an 0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:14.000 average level level representative. You know what I'm saying, Because 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:15.880 I'm I don't know one of these niggas that just 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.720 wrapped paid for their own shit and then just walked 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.400 up the Ennerscope and Interscope gave me five hundred that 0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:22.960 I don't know who did. I don't know who. 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.000 I don't know. You had to, you know what I'm saying. 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.399 You had to have some kind of uh yeah, some 0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:33.200 kind of repers black. I never had a manager slab, 0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:37.640 but I had an attorney who when it came down 0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.520 the negotiating. 0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:41.200 Deals or whatever, like. 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.319 I got signed to Epic because I went through uh 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.320 techno hop. You get me as a as a small 0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:55.719 independent label, I went through techno Hop and then fortunately 0:45:55.800 --> 0:46:00.799 when the ship got the cracking tech no Hop was 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.279 able to walk over there and go, hey see, I 0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:10.240 got eight, I got Count's most wanted, I had Iced Tea, 0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:15.359 I had King Tea. So right then and there they 0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:19.240 was like, oh, well shit, this gangster shit is getting cracking. 0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:25.440 So I went through via techno hop via he got 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.000 somebody and bingo. 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:28.520 They got a deal. 0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.680 But it was all a motherfucker's circle and I never 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.799 you get me. But I was just a motherfucker who 0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.400 at the time, I just wanted to rap. 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:40.200 You get me. 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.719 I didn't know the technicalities and all that bullshit and 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:47.480 publishing and managers and contracts and all that other shit. 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:49.600 I was just a nigga who wanted to grid a 0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:53.120 mic and spit. I'm gonna rap about the neighborhood, about 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:57.839 what we go through as hood niggas, and so all 0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:00.359 those niggas take a piece of the pie and shit. 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:02.480 And that's what's so fucked up at the end of 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:05.840 the day, because you the artists who writeing and putting 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:07.880 your heart and soul into your music. 0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:10.040 At the end of the day you getting fucked. 0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:14.799 So I get it, you know, the representation, because then 0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.440 there would have been somebody that's been able to go like, 0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:19.480 you know, I'm gonna go over here and talk to 0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.800 Atlantic or I'm gonna go talk to motherfuckering exactly, you know. 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.799 I mean, yeah, So the cold part about it not to. 0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:28.239 Cut you off, bro, I had to go all the 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.239 way to New York get I didn't get my dalva here. 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.319 We had to jump on the plane and go to 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:33.879 New York. 0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:35.799 But what a lot of niggas don't know is that 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.640 it's probably qualified management like a motherfucker out here. But 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.600 they look at certain niggas and I'm like, well, they 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.160 doing it already. I don't think they need my help. 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.120 That was another part too, you feel what I'm saying. 0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:49.560 That's another part too. I wasn't thinking. Mon I used 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:53.360 to be talking as indepennis shit. Niggas would interview me, 0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:55.000 and all I would talk about is, yeah, I got 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.359 my own label and I'm doing it. I'm just doing 0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:01.400 that because that's what I'm seeing, you know, master p 0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:05.000 and cash money. That's what they're saying. I'm not really understanding, 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:07.920 Like nigga, you telling every you telling every nigga that 0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:09.840 would want to give you a de nigga that you're straight. 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:12.200 And I'm pretty sure that had a lot to do 0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:14.720 with it, because the nigga was riding around here looking 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:16.760 like I was straight too, though, cause niggas was outside 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:18.800 getting to the back and do it all the ship. 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.879 So I'm basically anybody that wanted he ain't gonna sign. 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:23.120 He even for eight. 0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:25.880 It's probably a big ass management company and in the building. 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:28.080 I would love to have him ate, but like thinking, well, 0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:30.799 I'm sure he already has management, and this. 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:35.040 I didn't have no management. I was like, fuck. 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.120 I used to tell niggas, man, what you what you 0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:40.120 need to call the manager for? Straight up the negoti 0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.680 ate what nigga hell for your booet. 0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:42.880 Here I am? 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.920 And then I got to give up fifteen percent or 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:49.759 some ship. 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:52.120 Like that for a nigga to go. Yeah, he'll be there. 0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:56.279 I can tell a nigga my damnself, Yeah, nigga, I'll 0:48:56.280 --> 0:49:00.880 be there. Or what picked me up at the flights like, okay, 0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:07.560 cargo please kill man, please, nigga car? What kind of 0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:08.560 car they driving? 0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.000 Okay? What hotel I'm staying at? Okay? 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.799 Oh, nigga, we set send the motherfucking deposit, nigga. 0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.280 And we cracking. 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:23.480 But sometimes I call it sometimes y'all. Sometimes you need 0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:27.120 a buffer, though, because sometimes I don't feel like sitting 0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:29.879 on the phone with some niggas who want to be like, yeah, 0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:33.000 you know, and you know, uh, we're gonna do the 0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:35.799 radio ship whoopy whoop, and then you know, I want 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:37.759 him to go over here and do this and that, 0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.399 and then after he go to the hotel, we want 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:43.359 to Sometimes I don't want to go through all that. 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:46.760 So it's it's sometimes it's beneficial to have a manager 0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:50.560 and ship to negotiate ship. But yeah, you know, but 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.320 they gotta eat what they kill. Yeah, you know what 0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:55.759 I'm saying, what they killed. So you're doing your thing? 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:56.160 Man. 0:49:57.000 --> 0:50:00.799 Did you ever get frustrated? Frustrated? Right, damn man? 0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:02.520 Frustrated the whole months. 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.160 Say this shit, This shit still goes on. 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:06.439 I ain't really got to do. I ain't really got 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.000 to do what I know I can do, though, and 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.120 I understand what it is and why. You know, it 0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.839 was a time I came in. Come on, bro, my 0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.080 first one. You figure when Tree came out eight you 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.880 probably know very well because you was in the race already. 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.279 Look at all the shit that was not going on 0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:24.400 at that time when I came. Just think two thousand 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:28.399 and one, two thousand and two, two thousand and three, 0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:33.359 after Pop died, hummie, shit, who came after that? 0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:35.680 It? 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.200 Let me tell you who came it shit Nigga went 0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:43.880 Pop a little bit exhibit and then it was game Kendrick. 0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:46.800 Just think of all them years and then when the 0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:51.960 Kendrick come to what like twenty twelve, So you figure 0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:55.040 it's like three niggas for like ten years. 0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:57.400 Yeah Snoop Dogg too. 0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:00.200 No, No, they already cracking. I'm talking about when I 0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:04.120 came out, Like who made it? That's me and Glasses class. 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:07.759 Yes, you know what who during that time because Glasses 0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:12.359 had a tremendous buzz man and it was almost like 0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:14.759 it was almost at a time out here, if you 0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:19.400 didn't come off that doctor Dre family family, it was 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:20.840 impossible we should. 0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:25.640 Yeah, I mean a lot of us uh uh uh 0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:30.960 struggled from that from that aspect. 0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:34.080 After Park, it was like everybody else didn't want to 0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.480 on the West Coast, Nigga tripping Biggie happened. 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.680 It was a lot of a lot. 0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:47.000 Of labels, uh disassociated themselves with my class West Coast 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:51.520 music during that time. I caught the beginning of it 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:58.480 because at the end of my major label run, they 0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:05.040 were skept to go a fucking with our music. It 0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:09.640 was either you switched up the style or basically you 0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:15.680 got shelved or whatever. Yeah, with the Park situation and 0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.400 with Death Row, and then you know a lot of 0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.880 the a lot of the parent companies decide and like, 0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:26.720 we don't want to touch that ship. It was hard 0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:31.880 to get you know. It was a long Yeah, it 0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:32.880 was a long time. 0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:34.800 It was. 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.280 You gotta look at that period between, like he said, 0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:43.080 between Park dying and Biggie dying West Coast music kind 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:47.680 of like because it was our format, you get me. 0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:51.640 Our reputation was that type of music. Think about it 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.280 even still to this day. Man, you get the young 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.960 boy man, what's it pop smoke come out here and 0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:02.520 get murdered. Look doing his thing, dog and get murdered. 0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:06.160 Right then you had a P and B rock cat 0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:09.000 out here, he had a restaurant. 0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:09.920 He get killed. 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:11.799 Man, Now that ain't to me. That ain't got shit 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:13.640 to do with hip hop. I just got to do 0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:17.080 with niggas is greedy and niggas is hungry niche. 0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:19.480 Niggas been like that forever. 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.239 And you don't hear Biden you you hear about the 0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:25.680 ship now because of the celebrity status of whatever in 0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:30.440 the internet. Get me, But man, niggas been Niggas been 0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:33.399 dying and getting killed and all that type of shit. 0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:37.279 As far as getting jacked and getting set up and 0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.040 all that type of shit. Uh, that's been going on 0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:42.360 since I started walking the streets. 0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:43.080 You get me. 0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:49.160 Nowadays, it's it's it's more easy, though, to set yourself 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.560 up for some bullshit. You just like I said, you 0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:55.160 go to certain places. You got to know your surroundings 0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:58.280 and what you know. I never went to nobody's town 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.040 trying to floss and be you extra with it. 0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:05.000 I'm not from here. I'm not from here. 0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:09.880 You give me respect everybody. You gotta respect everybody. Have 0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:12.120 you ever had somebody come down to Diego and just 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:13.360 thought it was sweet. 0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:15.960 A lot of niggas came in San Diego and thought 0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:16.520 it was sweet. 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:23.840 But you know, and when it was treacherous, I knew it. 0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.400 I used to tell motherfucking the lake, oh no, we 0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:29.560 can't go there. San Diego was a place. I used 0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:31.399 to be like, oh, no, we're not going down there. 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:34.239 Them niggas down there's treacherous, like a motherfucker. 0:54:34.280 --> 0:54:36.960 We didn't know rat so all the same, and I 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.800 say we I'm gonna say the niggas right generation. 0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:42.480 We came down there once to do something. Man, I'm 0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:44.960 talking about nigga. I was like, Oh no, we can't 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:47.279 go down there. I had to tell I had to 0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:50.480 tell that, you know, motherfuckers who didn't know about shit, 0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:54.400 because people thought like San Diego was tourist town. You know, 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:57.880 you hear about the waterfront and all that shit. Nigga please. 0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:01.440 I used to go down there with my cub and no. 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:04.759 So when I started rapping, and especially when we got 0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:08.880 to the the real like conference, most wanted music to 0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.800 drive by type of shit, and the labels used to 0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:14.080 be like, Yeah, we're gonna go down there doing any 0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.399 store and boom, we won't. I used to be like, Nah, 0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:19.839 we're not going down there. Were going down there. You're 0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:21.920 not taking me down there with motherfucker. 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:23.959 I don't want to talk about a lot of shit. 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:30.000 You're not taking me down there myself, And got taking 0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:32.160 me down there with those two white reps of the 0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:35.399 bad and ship and what motherfucking security goods? 0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:37.640 Man, we're gonna get rapped up out of that motherfuck. 0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:39.920 Let me just say it like this on me. Every 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:44.360 artist then had an issue, all our favorite rappers and 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:47.160 had issues at Diego. And what I'll say it is 0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:50.799 not no digo l a thing. It's that for so 0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:54.120 long San Diego didn't know nothing about the rap shit, 0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:57.600 so when they see niggas as gang members, they would 0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.080 just look at it like that's just. 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:01.080 A game manber that ain't no rapping. 0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:02.200 Yeah, that's gang banging. 0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:04.359 You got that ship at home. 0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:09.040 Though, when I saw when I started rapping, uh yeah, nigga, 0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:12.040 I had little videos and songs out and ship, but 0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:16.719 still Nigga was affiliated when I started rapping. So it 0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:20.480 was like, I can't go over there and sign no 0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:22.520 motherfucking autographs. 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:25.320 To the to these cribs and bloods. He's a crip. 0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:27.040 That's it that nigga. 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:29.440 I don't give a fuck about no rap, ship and 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:33.239 no microphones. You don't get that bullshit up out of here. 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:35.439 You can walk it up in here trying to sign 0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:36.400 some autographs. 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:39.960 No, no, no, don't. You can't set it up like that. 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:43.680 You can't say out. I don't say it like that. 0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:48.239 All I'm saying is they they they gang. Let's say 0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:52.040 it like this. Many LA artists have gang banged against 0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:58.120 San Diego artists against gang Bang. Now they say you 0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:04.400 said run out big everybody from Easy to Dog Paund 0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:09.640 to you know, Mad Circle, all the homies because it 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.160 was all active, real niggas. You know what I'm saying. 0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:14.919 You know who niggas never they always for some reason, 0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:19.400 niggas always like Dub and Dago, Yeah, du Dub. Niggas 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:20.720 always like Dub and Dago. 0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:23.200 I hear a lot of people say they like Dub Dog. 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.280 I don't heard a lot of blood blood can't say 0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:26.560 they like Dub. Yeah, I didn't. 0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:32.040 I didn't start performing in Daego until way like to once, 0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.280 Like you know, niggas was cool and you know you 0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:37.120 will see me and quick together. 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.400 We didn't even got into it with homies and Dango 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.280 like on the on the Up and Smoke tour. 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:42.680 It was good, big. 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.760 Yeah. A lot of this shit happened, you know before 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:52.720 my generation of being outside, you know what I'm saying, 0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:54.600 Like like you know, when I was you know, a 0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:56.240 lot of them early years. You know what I mean. 0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.439 Now it ain't the gang banging ship is a little 0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:02.440 different because everybody got a rapper now, you know what 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:06.440 I'm saying. So niggas ain't so like you know, you 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:10.280 might have a rap group come to town three times 0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:13.200 a year. There was some real actual gang members. Now 0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:16.200 you're gonna see a nigga from every neighborhood come through 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.240 Dago every weekend at one of these clubs. So it 0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:21.280 ain't so like you know I mean, but you know, 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:22.200 everybody come through it. 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:24.280 It was just different back in the days. Man. 0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:26.840 But it's the same everywhere. It ain't just Daggo niggas ship. 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:29.920 Niggas to go anywhere. Niggas to go anywhere and need 0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:32.560 to be on San Diego shit in the motherfucker that 0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:34.919 nigga was getting banged on everywhere he went on that song. 0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:37.320 We don't see it here and everywhere. 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:39.560 Nigga. I remember the nigga. One of the first time 0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:43.800 tours I went on niggas, some White cribs was banged 0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:47.520 on me hard. My whole set niggas in Little Rock, Arkansas. 0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:52.800 The first was Little White Cris Yeah, no, no, no, no, 0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:59.360 on my hall Nebraska and they will do something to Yeah, man, 0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:01.040 you can get it anywhere. It ain't it ain't. 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:03.080 That's what I said. That's that was. 0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:07.320 That was one of the reasons why I never tried 0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:13.640 to uh bang when it came to making music. You know, niggas, 0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:16.640 niggas get it by you know, maybe you will see 0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:20.280 something on the album cover or whatever whatever, But we 0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:24.320 tried to not push it on a motherfucker when it 0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.760 came to C M DUB Records. I'm just gonna rap 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.800 about how the hood took us under, or niggas is struggling, 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:35.120 or you know, niggas drove by Miss Daisy or something. 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.360 I'm not gonna tell you. It was the crips of 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:38.440 the Bloods who did it. 0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:41.360 You looked at the DNA of mom rap ship everything 0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:44.880 he's saying, it's just like music's drop by drop by 0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.880 miss That's all that inspired me to do. You ain't 0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:50.520 getting to the question this nigga right here, This is 0:59:50.560 --> 0:59:52.600 the nigga right here that made me want to do 0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:56.720 this ship. I said it a hundred times every interview. 0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:58.080 He already heard all this ship. 0:59:57.960 --> 0:59:59.800 So you was influenced. But it's a whole bunch of 0:59:59.840 --> 1:00:01.200 peop get mad. 1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:03.400 See this nigga get mad at me when I be 1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:05.840 telling him what he means is certain people, right, he 1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:07.760 get mad and me, Man, I'll be telling niggas that shit. 1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:10.080 I'm a regular nigga. I say, no, you not my nigga. 1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:13.720 Now, I've just been because he's a regular nigga. 1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:15.160 That's what it was. Let me tell you what it 1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:17.600 was about eight. What it was about a you know 1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:19.360 who was before eight. So I ain't gonna say no 1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:21.600 names and the artists and the rappers that everybody was, 1:00:22.000 --> 1:00:25.360 but the difference between him and them. Not to be 1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:28.600 ignorant or on no bullshit, but this nigga was telling 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:30.960 the stories of what I was doing and wanting to do. 1:00:31.240 --> 1:00:34.160 I knew that he was a real member. Everybody else 1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:37.680 was gangster rappers. I knew from his raps. This ain't 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:40.200 glorifying you, No, this is just I'm hearing the stories 1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:42.600 that I want to just talking about what I'm doing. 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:45.480 That's what he was saying. He might not be me 1:00:45.600 --> 1:00:48.160 what he mean to me to this rapper or that 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:50.560 rapper or whatever, but for what I was doing, this 1:00:50.600 --> 1:00:52.640 is the nigga that was talking. Nigga jumping the gate, 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:56.760 dope sacking my nuts. Police on the trail, dogs barking, 1:00:56.760 --> 1:00:58.240 we getting away. This is the ship. You know what 1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:00.000 I'm saying. This Nigga was talking about. And I knew 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:02.400 that by the way he was telling them. You know 1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:04.600 what I'm saying. He's telling you how much dope is 1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:08.440 in his pocket, telling dope. Noticed that I got an 1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:11.480 eight ball and you feel me. I knew that Nigga 1:01:11.560 --> 1:01:13.520 really did the ship, and that's why I like this. 1:01:13.600 --> 1:01:16.360 Nigga and I did a lot of. 1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:19.040 I did a lot of little bullshit when I was 1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:22.200 a fucking kid. I did, like I said, I did 1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:26.920 a lot of bullshit. That if you grew up in 1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:32.280 a neighborhood where they was gang banging and you affiliated 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:35.280 or you got put on or jumped in or whatever 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:40.680 it was, Uh, that was life to us. We didn't 1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:45.120 see nothing else. I didn't see shit else. When I 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:48.760 woke up every morning, it was like, Nigga, come pick 1:01:48.840 --> 1:01:52.680 me up. Were going to the hood, and all day 1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:56.440 it was just walking around the neighborhood seeing the experiences. 1:01:56.640 --> 1:01:59.920 We got jacked by the police. Niggas came through black 1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:03.600 and we was in the alley selling dope. Nigga We 1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:07.080 was hopping fences and hiding and carrying straps. 1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:07.920 Uh, nigga. 1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:11.640 We was rolling up at the gas station, at the 1:02:11.680 --> 1:02:16.040 Hamburger stand whatever it was. You know, a couple of 1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:19.080 homies who lived in other neighborhoods, nigga. We go over 1:02:19.120 --> 1:02:21.360 there and got to get into it with them, niggas 1:02:21.400 --> 1:02:23.400 because the homies live over there and they not. 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:27.439 It was just life to me. And it wasn't like I. 1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:31.640 Was glorifying it, but I was like shit, while niggas 1:02:31.720 --> 1:02:35.040 is talking about being the freshest and the hardest MC 1:02:35.640 --> 1:02:39.280 and niggas was rapping about I'm missing, I'm not. I'm 1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:41.560 like nigga, I'm finn to talk about nigga. What happened 1:02:41.560 --> 1:02:42.800 in the hood last night? 1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:47.120 Hey, let me ask both of y'all. This's this question 1:02:47.200 --> 1:02:47.880 for both of y'all. 1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:51.320 Do y'all think man that sometimes game banging might have 1:02:51.360 --> 1:02:53.960 fucked up the music industry in La. Not saying fuck 1:02:54.000 --> 1:02:55.520 it up, because it's been a lot of niggas that 1:02:55.640 --> 1:02:58.840 have got on right. La got a very thriving music. 1:02:59.840 --> 1:03:03.400 I would say is the downfall from gang banging and 1:03:03.560 --> 1:03:10.880 music is that it doesn't sometimes it keeps us restricted 1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:15.960 from each other as far as being able to show 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:21.200 how much respect or how much we really like fucking 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:23.520 with a nigga or his music or whatever I said. 1:03:23.600 --> 1:03:29.160 To this day, niggas ties and their affiliations is what 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:32.320 keep us held down. 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:35.080 You know. Yeah, I know that nigga. 1:03:35.280 --> 1:03:38.120 Oh you know, y'all you bump my nigga, MITCHI, Yeah, 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:41.040 I bumped that nigga all right, you know, And that 1:03:41.040 --> 1:03:43.960 ain't because a nigga music ain't good. It's because of 1:03:44.080 --> 1:03:48.080 past affiliations and what niggas feel that they must hold true. 1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:54.240 You get me. Mc A got a show in La Yeah, 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:56.880 you know, can I get in free? Or a nigga? 1:03:56.920 --> 1:03:57.800 How many? You get me? 1:03:58.200 --> 1:04:02.760 That's how I could go to motherfucking Omaha, Nebraska and 1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:08.360 sell out every motherfucking ticket Here at home, I'm gonna 1:04:08.360 --> 1:04:10.360 have thirty niggas wanting to get in free. 1:04:10.640 --> 1:04:11.240 You get me. 1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:17.120 I could have a bomb song and niggas in motherfucking 1:04:17.240 --> 1:04:20.200 Wisconsin gonna be like, oh, nigga, that's the hardest shit. 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:24.520 Or I just came from off tour overseas, you, nigga. 1:04:24.600 --> 1:04:27.640 I could put out a record three months ago and 1:04:28.040 --> 1:04:31.600 it's five hundred motherfuckers in there singing that motherfucker word 1:04:31.640 --> 1:04:34.760 for word over here. It's like he put out a 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:40.240 record win you get me. It's just and like I said, 1:04:40.320 --> 1:04:44.120 I put that to because of the walks of life 1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:47.280 would come from and niggas just won't live that down 1:04:47.360 --> 1:04:51.200 as far as just having you know, that utmost respect 1:04:51.240 --> 1:04:55.360 for a niggas craft, you get me. Niggas let the 1:04:55.440 --> 1:05:02.760 affiliations in the past gang situations to hinder wanting to 1:05:02.880 --> 1:05:05.919 just respect the nigga. That's what makes me just say, 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:08.080 fuck it. I'm gonna call up a nigga and be like, nigga, 1:05:08.080 --> 1:05:11.040 you down on my shit, you get me? Because a 1:05:11.080 --> 1:05:13.320 lot of niggas don't respect us for a. 1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:14.439 Lot of shit we've done. 1:05:14.680 --> 1:05:16.800 And like I said, and that's just because the neighborhood 1:05:16.800 --> 1:05:21.600 affiliations or pass whatever past beefs or he from here 1:05:21.720 --> 1:05:23.920 or I grew up with that niggo or I know 1:05:24.040 --> 1:05:28.040 that nigga or whatever whatever you know, you just can't 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:29.840 get the same love sometime here. 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:32.680 The way I feel about it is that's a deeper 1:05:32.800 --> 1:05:34.919 version of it, but a more simple version of it 1:05:34.960 --> 1:05:42.240 is now it's a little bit different, but times like 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:48.240 recent pass up until you know the recent past. You 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:50.520 figure if you're a blood rapper and you come out, 1:05:50.760 --> 1:05:54.080 you automatically half your fan base is just gonna go 1:05:54.200 --> 1:05:56.240 like this if you're thinking about it from a perspective, 1:05:56.280 --> 1:05:58.479 if you from the Bay, if you're from the Bay, 1:05:58.680 --> 1:06:00.720 the project right next to you might not like you 1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:03.960 because y'all funking, But a nigga an hour away don't 1:06:04.000 --> 1:06:06.360 have no reason and not fuck with you. When you 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:09.000 a blood, a nigga across the country, you have a 1:06:09.040 --> 1:06:11.800 reason not to bump your music. So it's hard for 1:06:11.840 --> 1:06:13.960 the music to move the way it might move in 1:06:14.040 --> 1:06:16.800 the South because it might get to this hood, but 1:06:16.840 --> 1:06:19.280 then it might stop because the next it over its crippled. 1:06:19.360 --> 1:06:21.680 So it ain't gonna just move steady. You feel me? 1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:24.360 If you go and buy like an independent type of 1:06:24.360 --> 1:06:28.760 push like that, you know you a blood, You ain't 1:06:29.160 --> 1:06:32.600 You ain't really getting no like nineties two thousands. You 1:06:32.640 --> 1:06:35.120 ain't get who gonna where your shit gonna be bumping 1:06:35.120 --> 1:06:35.880 at in Long Beach. 1:06:36.720 --> 1:06:39.840 Oh man, ain't nowhere. It ain't nobody alone. 1:06:39.960 --> 1:06:42.320 Where they're gonna. So you so now, just because you 1:06:42.480 --> 1:06:45.240 a blood, there's a whole city full of niggas that 1:06:45.280 --> 1:06:47.720 ain't really gonna fuck with your music. You feel me. 1:06:47.880 --> 1:06:50.400 That's the ship I look at when I think about now. 1:06:50.400 --> 1:06:52.240 It ain't like no Long Beach niggas don't fuck with 1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:54.240 my music. I fuck a Long Beach nigga. I'm just saying, 1:06:54.760 --> 1:06:58.480 you know, I feel you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:01.240 hell yeah, game banger for fuck with the music that 1:07:01.600 --> 1:07:03.120 just go for Southern Cali period. 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:06.320 I would say, man for more than anything else. I've 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:10.160 been in California since nineteen eighty eight. I'm a riginally 1:07:10.200 --> 1:07:13.000 from Cleveland, Ohio, but I've been in California longer than 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:14.120 most of my life now. 1:07:15.560 --> 1:07:16.960 I never banged. 1:07:16.600 --> 1:07:18.800 Because of that specific thing because I had too many 1:07:18.840 --> 1:07:21.280 friends I met. You know, when you play football with people, 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:25.760 they become like your brothers. So if me messing with 1:07:25.800 --> 1:07:28.960 the homies from Long Beach insane men, I can't hang 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:30.960 out with the homies from that might be happen to 1:07:30.960 --> 1:07:32.440 be for twenties them. I was like, man, I'm not 1:07:32.520 --> 1:07:35.360 getting involved in none of that shit because it just 1:07:35.560 --> 1:07:37.280 fuck up everything to me, you know what I mean? 1:07:37.800 --> 1:07:40.320 Like it's silly almost because I'll see cats find out 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:42.520 they was cousins, but don't fuck with each other. 1:07:43.360 --> 1:07:44.480 Oh yeah, you had a lot of. 1:07:44.480 --> 1:07:47.040 That, you know what I mean, no choice. I wasn't 1:07:47.040 --> 1:07:49.480 in no situation where I got to pick none of 1:07:49.520 --> 1:07:51.800 that type of shit, whether I want to bang or 1:07:51.840 --> 1:07:53.400 nothing like that. So it's a little different. 1:07:53.480 --> 1:07:55.360 Yeah, for y'all, it's a little different. See when you 1:07:55.480 --> 1:07:59.640 come out somewhere, you're seventeen right firstus you being born somewhere. 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:01.160 It's kind of different. 1:08:01.440 --> 1:08:01.600 You know. 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:05.200 It's kind of different if a motherfucker showed up off 1:08:05.280 --> 1:08:12.040 the Greyhound from Texas somewhere at seventeen, you know, active homies. 1:08:12.240 --> 1:08:15.080 Yeah, the definitely. 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:19.240 But the choices are, you know, a little different than 1:08:19.320 --> 1:08:23.440 you growing up in the hood, and you're being expected 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:26.479 at a certain age too. You're gonna be coming to 1:08:26.600 --> 1:08:29.000 walk through here every day and not nigga, it's time 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:30.560 to start being affiliated. 1:08:30.640 --> 1:08:33.000 So where you from? You either from over here or 1:08:33.080 --> 1:08:35.439 you from somewhere else. Yeah, but you know you want 1:08:35.479 --> 1:08:37.000 to hear some crazy shit though. Right. 1:08:37.960 --> 1:08:40.080 One thing about living a long beach you told me 1:08:40.200 --> 1:08:42.640 this is that it's always a blood nigga there, right, 1:08:43.560 --> 1:08:45.760 it was a nigga on the team. He was a 1:08:45.840 --> 1:08:50.000 blood went to Jordan High School, went to Long Beach 1:08:50.040 --> 1:08:52.160 City College and Jordan High School is a crip school. 1:08:52.200 --> 1:08:56.519 It's a North Long Beach, right, so they should like 1:08:56.600 --> 1:08:58.320 to take me out every weekend. You know, I'm out 1:08:58.320 --> 1:09:00.120 of town nigga, right, So. 1:09:00.160 --> 1:09:02.360 He took me. He said, we're gonna go to my neighborhood. 1:09:03.240 --> 1:09:06.439 And I never knew. He went down to Wilmington the waterfront. Pirute. 1:09:06.520 --> 1:09:09.519 I get out the car and they hitting him up, 1:09:09.600 --> 1:09:10.320 like what's up? Man? 1:09:10.360 --> 1:09:11.800 They look at me like this because they was like, 1:09:11.840 --> 1:09:12.880 this is the home he played with me, So they 1:09:12.880 --> 1:09:15.120 figured I'm a Long Beach nigga. It's all these big 1:09:15.200 --> 1:09:17.639 as Polynesians like where you from? 1:09:17.720 --> 1:09:21.320 Where you from? Blamon? You're from blood and they thought 1:09:21.400 --> 1:09:22.479 they I said, Ohio. 1:09:22.960 --> 1:09:25.799 That was our first time about that. Then niggas start laughing. 1:09:26.080 --> 1:09:27.720 They said, hell, are you trying to be funny or something? 1:09:27.800 --> 1:09:31.560 Yeah, because that's how nigga cop p out here. Diggm 1:09:31.920 --> 1:09:34.080 from Texas and he said. 1:09:33.840 --> 1:09:35.439 You're trying to play with me or something, and the 1:09:35.520 --> 1:09:37.599 homies said, man, he's food really from Ohio. 1:09:38.080 --> 1:09:38.920 They started laughing. 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:40.720 They said, man, I thought you Long Beach, So I 1:09:40.760 --> 1:09:43.280 don't you know, I don't know what's going on, but 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:45.720 it made me realize, I said, man, I fuck with 1:09:45.800 --> 1:09:48.080 too many people, man, because it was blood niggas on 1:09:48.160 --> 1:09:51.120 the team. It was niggas from this side. And then 1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:54.440 once you figure out the dynamic that it's more motherfucking 1:09:54.479 --> 1:09:57.800 crips than whack crips that don't like crip games, it 1:09:58.000 --> 1:10:00.479 throw you for a loop even further. I'm like, man, 1:10:00.560 --> 1:10:01.719 how do you what kind of gigs? 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:02.000 Like? 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:04.720 What kind of and it confused you with you out 1:10:04.760 --> 1:10:09.559 of town and ye, so so let me get this straight. 1:10:09.600 --> 1:10:12.519 Bloods kill bloods too, and crips still kill crips. 1:10:12.600 --> 1:10:13.519 Niggas kill niggas. 1:10:13.920 --> 1:10:17.000 Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, niggas kill niggas. Ship. 1:10:17.520 --> 1:10:19.200 They ain't got ship to do with blood and the 1:10:19.280 --> 1:10:21.320 cripping niggas just niggas kill niggas. 1:10:21.400 --> 1:10:24.640 Man, niggas always When when I you know, you get 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:31.360 somebody that ain't from inside talking about they killing over colors, man, 1:10:31.920 --> 1:10:34.320 I ain't. It ain't never been about no colors. It 1:10:34.360 --> 1:10:36.960 ain't ain't. No, it be about some other ship, but 1:10:37.040 --> 1:10:38.720 that'd be the last thing and be about it be 1:10:38.760 --> 1:10:40.920 about some bitches or something before it be about. 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:42.920 Yeah, I tried to Yeah that's why I try to 1:10:43.000 --> 1:10:46.639 explain to a lot of people, uh, you know who 1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:51.680 listen to my music, who get confused because that's the 1:10:51.800 --> 1:10:55.880 simplicity that they want to push. Ah, you niggas is 1:10:56.479 --> 1:10:59.439 dying over a red rag or a blue rag. And 1:10:59.560 --> 1:11:01.920 I try to tell niggas it's more deeper than that. 1:11:02.280 --> 1:11:09.240 It's it's more deeper because of the foundation of what 1:11:09.439 --> 1:11:12.599 it really is. And it's not about colors and shit. 1:11:12.920 --> 1:11:17.679 I mean, everybody motherfucking associates themselves with something. Football teams 1:11:17.760 --> 1:11:21.519 associate themselves with colors and sun and you know, all 1:11:21.640 --> 1:11:24.920 kinds of shit. So but it's never that you know 1:11:24.960 --> 1:11:27.040 what I'm saying, I tell you one thing broke. 1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:30.680 Poverty of motherfucker. Yeah that's yeah, definitely. 1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:33.559 Poverty when you brought up with nothing. And that's and see, 1:11:33.640 --> 1:11:37.120 poverty is so universal. If you notice anywhere where they 1:11:37.160 --> 1:11:40.240 have poverty, they have what a high crime rate, they 1:11:40.280 --> 1:11:45.000 have a high murder rate because people don't have no hope. 1:11:45.240 --> 1:11:47.320 Think about you, think about it. You actually a talent 1:11:47.439 --> 1:11:50.080 man that even though it may not be the career 1:11:50.160 --> 1:11:53.080 that you necessarily wanted, it took you a lot of places, right, 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:55.360 You've been able to make a living for yourself and 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:57.960 your family. Right, think about the nigga that don't have 1:11:58.160 --> 1:12:01.479 no options. That's your stuck in the hood, right. He 1:12:01.600 --> 1:12:04.439 can't do nothing. He can't wrap, he can't play no football, 1:12:04.600 --> 1:12:05.360 no basketball. 1:12:06.000 --> 1:12:07.720 All he know is that that's a lot of the 1:12:07.840 --> 1:12:10.080 homies that's lost, a lot of the homies that we 1:12:10.240 --> 1:12:12.680 got buried, or a lot of the homies that we 1:12:12.800 --> 1:12:16.960 got doing life in the pin right now because he 1:12:17.080 --> 1:12:18.040 got no choices. 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:20.720 They don't have no fucking choice, you get it. I 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:23.640 don't have no choice in the dope game. See, we 1:12:23.840 --> 1:12:26.599 had this disillusion back in the eighties and nineties, man, 1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:29.120 that the dope game was like the to save you 1:12:29.240 --> 1:12:32.240 for the neighborhood. I don't know nobody that made it 1:12:32.280 --> 1:12:34.719 out dog. Everybody y'all know there was a big baller 1:12:35.120 --> 1:12:37.120 like they had the big cribs dog and all the 1:12:37.200 --> 1:12:40.200 cars and stuff. Most of them dudes that's either steal 1:12:40.240 --> 1:12:44.679 in prison, dead, smoked out. 1:12:48.600 --> 1:12:50.800 Did they just it wasn't no. 1:12:50.880 --> 1:12:55.160 One could be one. It ain't somewhere. 1:12:56.720 --> 1:12:59.960 You got the number one. It is one somewhere, some successful. 1:13:00.400 --> 1:13:02.680 We got to have one success story. You got the 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:04.519 one that got away. And I'm talking about dudes that 1:13:04.560 --> 1:13:07.280 deal with high level. I'm talking about extremely high level. 1:13:07.360 --> 1:13:07.479 Right. 1:13:08.520 --> 1:13:11.439 You got the cat that made got out of it, man, 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:13.960 but he's still mentally scarred from it. Right, he lost more, 1:13:14.120 --> 1:13:14.719 way more. 1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:16.280 Than what he gained from it. You feel what I mean? 1:13:17.080 --> 1:13:19.559 That was the biggest lie ever in society, man, because 1:13:19.600 --> 1:13:21.640 I had because it had people think he made it, man, 1:13:21.680 --> 1:13:24.800 But we tore up a whole community. Now I'm gonna 1:13:24.840 --> 1:13:28.200 have to say weeks, I was actively involved when. 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:30.799 We got a lot we we got we got success 1:13:30.880 --> 1:13:36.120 stories myself. Nichie you oh yeah, But that's what I'm saying. 1:13:36.280 --> 1:13:38.599 There's a lot of there's a lot of us who 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:44.400 came from uh walking from the wrong side of the tracks. 1:13:44.640 --> 1:13:48.439 And like I tell motherfuckers today, I wouldn't change it 1:13:48.560 --> 1:13:53.080 for nothing because it makes you who you are, and 1:13:53.200 --> 1:13:58.479 it makes you understand shit. You know, Without gang banging 1:13:58.560 --> 1:14:00.639 and without growing up in the hood, of going through 1:14:00.760 --> 1:14:03.519 poverty and all of that, it wouldn't have made me 1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:06.400 who I am. With my kid, you feel me uh 1:14:07.439 --> 1:14:10.160 to be able to get you know, especially with a 1:14:10.240 --> 1:14:13.160 young man being able to turn him away from and 1:14:13.320 --> 1:14:16.360 let him see that there's bright shiit other it's it's 1:14:16.400 --> 1:14:19.439 a it's a brighter light at the tunnel other than 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:21.960 what we had to go through. You know, we didn't 1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:26.000 have too many choices, you feel me. Uh, growing up 1:14:26.040 --> 1:14:28.439 in the eighties, in the early nineties, I didn't have 1:14:28.520 --> 1:14:29.519 too many choices. 1:14:29.680 --> 1:14:29.880 Man. 1:14:32.320 --> 1:14:35.280 My parents tried to give a nigga a positive light. 1:14:35.560 --> 1:14:43.160 But back then, you ain't got a lot of ship 1:14:43.280 --> 1:14:46.040 that wasn't available to us. So you just had to 1:14:46.160 --> 1:14:48.360 make a way. And for us to be sitting here 1:14:48.439 --> 1:14:52.000 today and not six feet under or you know, locked 1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:54.280 down in the pen looking at another fifth. 1:14:55.960 --> 1:14:57.960 You get me. So we we are. 1:14:58.200 --> 1:15:01.519 We are the success stories of the regular You get me. 1:15:02.000 --> 1:15:04.680 We might not be sitting up with you know, one 1:15:04.760 --> 1:15:08.800 hundred million dollars and you know, private yachts and shit, 1:15:09.080 --> 1:15:13.200 but this is the success of a regular or a 1:15:13.280 --> 1:15:17.080 regular nigga from the neighborhood who a lot of motherfuckers 1:15:17.120 --> 1:15:19.360 probably thought wouldn't make it out of the situation. 1:15:19.840 --> 1:15:20.280 You get me. 1:15:20.400 --> 1:15:23.520 A lot of the homies died before we wasn't even teenagers, 1:15:23.600 --> 1:15:24.000 no mom. 1:15:24.160 --> 1:15:26.639 Yeah, and a lot of homies didn't you know, grab 1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:29.280 microphones or do beats or none of that shit. 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:33.280 So we try to be the success story for those 1:15:33.439 --> 1:15:35.880 niggas you feel me, Nia, it's a whole bunch of 1:15:35.920 --> 1:15:36.800 people that didn't make it. 1:15:36.920 --> 1:15:37.360 Man, So. 1:15:39.200 --> 1:15:42.200 Right about nah, Man, the music scene is real weird, man. 1:15:42.920 --> 1:15:43.160 You know. 1:15:44.920 --> 1:15:48.960 Obviously been you know, surveying the landscape right and I'm 1:15:48.960 --> 1:15:52.479 seeing these little cats, Man, good deals for having TikTok videos, 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:55.360 for popping TikTok videos, have people doing their challenges and 1:15:55.400 --> 1:15:56.040 stuff like that. 1:15:56.280 --> 1:16:00.080 Man, where does a. 1:16:01.680 --> 1:16:04.040 Person that comes from that era, Man, where you really 1:16:04.160 --> 1:16:06.080 had to wrap and really where this stuff meant the 1:16:06.120 --> 1:16:10.280 whole lot and really where we had more bodies of 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:13.000 work like today is a real single driven era right 1:16:13.200 --> 1:16:17.120 to where it's like a cat like you MC eight scarface, 1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:20.960 y'all ain't never been them single type of dudes. You 1:16:21.000 --> 1:16:23.000 gotta listen to the whole body of work to get 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:25.360 the story. You know, you feel what I'm saying, maximum effect? 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:28.840 Where do you fit in that in this landscape right now? 1:16:29.520 --> 1:16:32.000 From what I'm noticing, And I could be wrong, and 1:16:32.040 --> 1:16:34.519 the intel that I'm grabbing, the game is kind of 1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:37.439 changing right now, and you're starting to see cats that 1:16:37.920 --> 1:16:41.639 actually do make music from that angle starting to either 1:16:42.520 --> 1:16:47.000 step step back into the game or or like a 1:16:47.080 --> 1:16:49.479 lot of the g's. If you notice, man, a lot 1:16:49.520 --> 1:16:52.240 of the g's been coming back out and putting our records, man, 1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:55.839 and even getting deal was like a lot of niggas, 1:16:55.920 --> 1:16:57.640 like a lot of the main niggas. I mean, I 1:16:57.720 --> 1:17:01.840 know everybody noticed, but like we can't overlook the fact that, 1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:05.080 you know, Big Mike did just win uh Grammy for 1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:09.160 Best Hip Hop Album or whatever that was. And I 1:17:09.240 --> 1:17:13.880 first might know the homie killing Mike my nigga shout 1:17:13.920 --> 1:17:15.719 out to the Homi Stack of grif Stack and Griffin 1:17:16.040 --> 1:17:18.600 from from my neighborhood out in Atlanta kind of helped me. 1:17:19.040 --> 1:17:21.479 Killing Mike make our little relationship. We got a salute 1:17:21.520 --> 1:17:24.240 to the to the hommy, and that ain't nothing that 1:17:24.600 --> 1:17:27.080 we can't notice. I think the game is kind of 1:17:27.200 --> 1:17:30.000 changing right now, no disrespect to the young artists have 1:17:30.040 --> 1:17:33.920 been making music, but some of the fans that was 1:17:34.040 --> 1:17:37.080 just following along listening to a lot of the different 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:40.400 music because it wasn't they're starting to be able to 1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:42.360 step back and find a lot of their favorite artists 1:17:42.439 --> 1:17:46.280 right now making music, you know what I mean, even 1:17:46.360 --> 1:17:48.760 put me on record, you know, a couple of his 1:17:48.880 --> 1:17:50.880 records recently. I mean, and I know, I know it's 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:53.160 niggas that appreciate that. The nigga like eight putting out 1:17:53.200 --> 1:17:54.200 records again, you feel me? 1:17:54.960 --> 1:17:57.080 Straight up, I don't think I think that's the thing. 1:17:57.200 --> 1:18:00.320 I think it's important that cats continue to for our 1:18:00.400 --> 1:18:01.920 records because you gotta think about it. 1:18:02.080 --> 1:18:04.600 Like now, right now, we in the era of the 1:18:04.680 --> 1:18:06.559 fifty year old b boy. Straight up. 1:18:06.960 --> 1:18:09.840 You know the way you see cats are fifty years old. 1:18:09.920 --> 1:18:12.160 Ain't like our parents fifty years old. You remember, while 1:18:12.160 --> 1:18:14.519 we's little kids, you see a nigga's fifty he got. 1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:17.519 On the collar shirt. Now you know you see fifty niggas. 1:18:17.560 --> 1:18:19.200 Your old niggas dress fresh. You know what I mean? 1:18:19.240 --> 1:18:22.479 They are product of the hip hop environment. They grew 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:24.360 up on hip hop, you know what I'm saying. So 1:18:24.560 --> 1:18:26.680 what they gonna listen to? I know me, I'm I'm 1:18:26.720 --> 1:18:29.960 like checking for no, it's a red bag. I heard 1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:31.960 the other day, man, where they took the door to 1:18:32.040 --> 1:18:34.120 explore a song and made the hook out of it, 1:18:34.200 --> 1:18:40.920 talk about bagpack, bag pack. Yeah, but I can't listen 1:18:41.000 --> 1:18:42.120 that as a grown ass man. 1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:42.439 Man. 1:18:43.280 --> 1:18:50.759 I just think that this era, you know, it comes 1:18:50.880 --> 1:18:54.720 quick and is here today going tomorrow type of era 1:18:55.400 --> 1:19:01.040 where everybody rapping, but nobody's really making. So that's I 1:19:01.120 --> 1:19:05.000 think that's the difference between our era and what it 1:19:05.200 --> 1:19:10.920 is today. Today is catchy as hooky, it's gimmicky, and 1:19:11.080 --> 1:19:15.120 then a week from now, it's like, what's next. I'm 1:19:15.160 --> 1:19:17.439 gonna tell you what it is, bro, And I could 1:19:17.439 --> 1:19:20.720 put out a song and motherfucker banging that shit for 1:19:20.800 --> 1:19:24.640 the next three years. You did me as opposed to 1:19:25.120 --> 1:19:27.440 you could put out a song today and a motherfucker 1:19:27.520 --> 1:19:32.320 bang it over the next week, and then now it's like, Okay, 1:19:32.439 --> 1:19:33.000 what's the next. 1:19:33.240 --> 1:19:35.400 So yeah, this ain't you know, and this ain't no 1:19:35.600 --> 1:19:39.160 not against nobody, man, But I like some of them records, 1:19:39.200 --> 1:19:40.920 you know what I mean. Like I thought the Homie 1:19:40.960 --> 1:19:45.439 Otch Genesis was jamming, But it's the that's the problem 1:19:45.560 --> 1:19:47.160 right there, so to speak, you feel what I mean. 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:50.320 Ot Genesis make great songs, but they just great for 1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:52.400 that moment right there. It ain't no body of work 1:19:52.439 --> 1:19:54.240 attext to it. You feel what I mean, And it 1:19:54.360 --> 1:19:57.280 could be maybe he got that, maybe he don't. But 1:19:57.520 --> 1:20:00.120 this area has gotten so aware to where is it's 1:20:00.160 --> 1:20:05.280 almost it's crazy. Now you see cats trying they'll do anything. 1:20:05.960 --> 1:20:08.679 Yeah, I don't think motherfuckers want to make songs today. 1:20:08.880 --> 1:20:12.560 I think they just want to make what's catchy, what's gimmicky, 1:20:12.720 --> 1:20:15.360 and what's you know what can give me a million 1:20:15.520 --> 1:20:19.800 billion downloads right now and a month from now. If 1:20:19.880 --> 1:20:22.400 don't nobody ever want to hear that shit again? Oh well, 1:20:22.680 --> 1:20:26.000 but you know, one positive motherfucker's. 1:20:25.520 --> 1:20:27.280 Making some bread, you know what it is. I think 1:20:27.920 --> 1:20:30.479 the little artist now, I ain't knocking their music, never 1:20:30.600 --> 1:20:33.000 knocking them, but I think a lot of times now 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:35.200 a lot of the streams and a lot of the 1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:38.479 shit that they getting is coming from shit other than 1:20:38.520 --> 1:20:43.000 their music. So therefore the music don't last because the 1:20:43.160 --> 1:20:45.840 song wasn't even hot because of the music. The song 1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:47.800 was kind of hot because of something else that this 1:20:48.640 --> 1:20:50.800 artist did in his life, you know, because they do 1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:52.920 a lot of other things that get popular. Now you 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:54.280 feel me, it ain't got no nothing to do with it. 1:20:54.360 --> 1:20:57.840 The song is almost like just the afterthought. 1:20:57.439 --> 1:21:00.160 Yeah it is a pro hes fucking with or you 1:21:00.240 --> 1:21:02.400 know what is this murdered trial saying? 1:21:02.520 --> 1:21:06.560 And yeah, what controversy, conflict or conspiracy? 1:21:06.680 --> 1:21:08.759 And so that's the reason why his song will be popping. 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:10.800 That's the reason why you see all these people pop 1:21:11.200 --> 1:21:14.280 with music after they've done something else, has some other 1:21:14.360 --> 1:21:17.320 career that made them popular, whether it be a reality 1:21:17.400 --> 1:21:20.560 show or or or or was in fucked with this 1:21:20.720 --> 1:21:22.880 broad or in this movie or whatever it is. You 1:21:22.920 --> 1:21:25.080 know what I'm saying. Then he gets his career with 1:21:25.240 --> 1:21:26.960 rap because he already got he already popular. 1:21:27.080 --> 1:21:28.760 Yeah, the way I look at it, with this man, 1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:31.200 this rap is almost like a calling card anyway to 1:21:31.240 --> 1:21:33.840 do some other shit. We lived in the era right now, 1:21:33.920 --> 1:21:37.280 that's so dope, right, think about this. We can go 1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:39.600 shoot a movie next week and put it out straight up. 1:21:39.760 --> 1:21:41.639 You feel what I'm saying. So it's so much stuff 1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:43.479 that we can do. Like I look at these young 1:21:43.560 --> 1:21:46.120 cats nigga hustle and I ain't gonna lie say what man, shit, 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:49.120 we need to be diversifying our hustles too. 1:21:49.160 --> 1:21:50.920 Shit, damn it. You know I was talking to you 1:21:51.000 --> 1:21:51.599 earlier this week. 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:54.880 I was like, man, we gotta get getting cameras cracking dog, 1:21:54.960 --> 1:21:56.000 get you behind that camera. 1:21:56.280 --> 1:21:58.240 We shot some movie. We did a few movies. I 1:21:58.360 --> 1:22:00.400 mean mm hmm, and we did a few movies. You 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:01.840 gotta check them. Did you check that out? 1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:03.679 Baby? 1:22:04.200 --> 1:22:04.360 Yeah? 1:22:04.760 --> 1:22:06.600 Yeah for sure. But that's what I'm saying, man, you. 1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:10.080 And the west Bred Diamond mean Hemmy put together called 1:22:10.160 --> 1:22:11.640 movie you gotta check it out home and we did 1:22:11.680 --> 1:22:14.960 a movie. It's on It's on Amazon Prime right now. 1:22:15.000 --> 1:22:19.080 I started sling. Johnson was in the movie. Uh me 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:22.320 comped the minis. It was a few. 1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:25.000 A few has been getting a lot of ship lately. 1:22:25.280 --> 1:22:27.599 That nigga, that nigga did that roll homie, he lit 1:22:27.640 --> 1:22:31.440 it up and what is that started the compt. 1:22:31.560 --> 1:22:35.280 Yeah, O G two he did that. Man, you know, 1:22:35.520 --> 1:22:37.599 one of the greatest actor rappers of all time. 1:22:38.120 --> 1:22:40.920 Don't let because because I'm a I really studied this ship. 1:22:41.240 --> 1:22:43.439 Man who this man sitting right at the end of 1:22:43.479 --> 1:22:49.960 the table out there. I tell y'all niggas about this nigga. 1:22:49.720 --> 1:22:52.439 Right, No, homie, what are you talking about? My nigga? 1:22:52.439 --> 1:22:56.240 That right? The niggas. 1:22:59.120 --> 1:22:59.840 You need some help. 1:23:00.800 --> 1:23:03.120 We're gonna go over here and little one we don't 1:23:03.160 --> 1:23:08.560 give there got that. No y'all did that my nigga. No. 1:23:09.080 --> 1:23:11.280 Seeing that movie, I said, man, this nigga is probably 1:23:11.320 --> 1:23:13.200 the most gang banging this nigga in the world. 1:23:13.360 --> 1:23:15.880 Yeah, honey, I'm listen, listen. I mean I wouldn't listen 1:23:16.040 --> 1:23:18.760 in the hood. Bro listen. It's the school in our hood, 1:23:18.880 --> 1:23:22.120 right in the middle on Skyline at sixty first Street 1:23:22.120 --> 1:23:24.679 when we was young as a creative and performing arts school. 1:23:25.360 --> 1:23:29.120 Nanda Lewis went there. Nick Cannon went a lot, A 1:23:29.160 --> 1:23:32.040 lot of actors and entertainers went to this school. Hummy, 1:23:33.640 --> 1:23:36.640 we studied hommie how to do you know? It was 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:38.080 in the hood, so you wanted to go to the 1:23:38.120 --> 1:23:40.479 school because all little brawls run around the lytards and 1:23:40.560 --> 1:23:43.040 she was like fan. But for the street niggas, we 1:23:43.080 --> 1:23:45.880 would just take as our elected would just be you know, 1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:49.439 drama acting or something, you know, make a little skits 1:23:49.479 --> 1:23:52.559 and classes ship. So I learned ship, and I know, shit, 1:23:54.000 --> 1:23:55.960 the hommy got it off, you feel me? The hommy 1:23:56.040 --> 1:23:57.880 did that. I thought you was gonna say, like a 1:23:59.240 --> 1:24:02.960 like a cause you know Pocket act. I mean, we 1:24:03.080 --> 1:24:04.920 know Pocket, we know he could act. But I'm saying, 1:24:04.960 --> 1:24:06.720 I'm saying from a nigga that no, not just cause 1:24:06.760 --> 1:24:08.400 he said it and he went to school. You know 1:24:08.520 --> 1:24:09.080 he did his say. 1:24:09.160 --> 1:24:09.400 He was. 1:24:11.600 --> 1:24:13.720 A good actor. He was a really good actor, you know, 1:24:15.360 --> 1:24:17.920 which is why he was such a good hip hop artist. 1:24:18.120 --> 1:24:19.800 You know what I'm saying. He was able to get 1:24:19.880 --> 1:24:22.000 that shit off. You know what I mean? You know 1:24:22.120 --> 1:24:24.360 that motherfucker. You thought he you know, he's meant business 1:24:24.400 --> 1:24:25.400 when he said what he said. 1:24:27.479 --> 1:24:29.880 The reasons I say that, man, is because you got 1:24:30.240 --> 1:24:33.240 some rappers who aren't good actors, you know what I'm saying. 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:36.559 E eight pulled that shit off though. And I think eight, 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:38.960 by me knowing him a little bit, now I know 1:24:39.080 --> 1:24:40.720 why I used to always wondered why he didn't do 1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:43.200 more movies that much from probably turned down more shit 1:24:44.400 --> 1:24:45.880 just from where he was at. You know, he that's 1:24:45.920 --> 1:24:47.640 what this rap shit mean to him. He was like, 1:24:47.720 --> 1:24:51.120 ain't nobody gonna try to make me no no comedian 1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:55.439 you know, no, no, no, no cartoon character. He wouldn't 1:24:55.479 --> 1:24:58.760 having it, you know what I'm saying. So he pretty 1:24:58.840 --> 1:25:04.360 much probably sacrifice. Come on, it's not wanting to do 1:25:04.520 --> 1:25:05.280 certain shit, you know. 1:25:06.120 --> 1:25:06.320 Yeah. 1:25:07.640 --> 1:25:09.599 Yeah, I didn't want to do a lot of funny ship. 1:25:10.000 --> 1:25:11.560 I didn't want to do a lot of Niggas was 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:15.240 hitting me about funny ship and scripts about come of 1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:17.439 these ship and I was like, nah, man, I'm cool. 1:25:17.800 --> 1:25:19.680 So that's what really did it for me. 1:25:20.040 --> 1:25:22.479 Hey check it out, Hey tell me this right here. 1:25:22.520 --> 1:25:25.559 About minutes right. Remember when you hit the nigga at 1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:28.640 the end at the shot, right, did y'all make it 1:25:28.680 --> 1:25:31.080 a point to make sure that y'all busted ten times 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:35.880 that you shot him ten times? Oh? Yeah, it was 1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:38.519 a desert ego and the desert ego held ten bus Yeah, 1:25:38.680 --> 1:25:39.400 held it held. 1:25:40.120 --> 1:25:43.880 I said when they gave me the when they gave 1:25:44.000 --> 1:25:48.519 it to me, like, uh, when they gave me the 1:25:48.640 --> 1:25:51.960 gun earlier that day, you know, before we was getting 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:54.320 ready to shoot the sing I was like, what the 1:25:54.520 --> 1:25:57.200 fuck is this? Because they I just came out with 1:25:57.320 --> 1:26:01.320 desert and I said, what the fuck is this? He said, 1:26:01.720 --> 1:26:03.600 And so the gun dude was like, oh yeah, I 1:26:03.720 --> 1:26:05.679 just got that. He was like, it's a Desert Eagle 1:26:05.760 --> 1:26:09.080 three fifty seven. And I said, where the fuck y'all 1:26:09.200 --> 1:26:11.760 get this shit from? So I was just fucking with 1:26:11.920 --> 1:26:15.639 it all day. So they didn't really tell me how 1:26:15.760 --> 1:26:19.640 many times to shoot the nigga. A lot of my 1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:26.439 shit was ad libbed, I guess, because you know, having 1:26:26.520 --> 1:26:30.320 a true affiliation with the neighborhood and gang banging and 1:26:30.400 --> 1:26:32.439 all that, So they didn't know. 1:26:33.120 --> 1:26:34.080 So it was. 1:26:34.160 --> 1:26:38.600 Basically on instinct or whatever I felt. So when the 1:26:38.680 --> 1:26:40.880 nigga got out the car and I shot him twice, 1:26:40.920 --> 1:26:45.559 Bob Bob and he fell. I was just like, man, 1:26:46.200 --> 1:26:49.800 this nigga still moving around and shit, nigga in the neighborhood. 1:26:49.840 --> 1:26:52.880 It ain't nobody. We just gonna I'm just gonna keep 1:26:52.920 --> 1:26:56.600 shooting the nigga until it's over with. So I just 1:26:56.720 --> 1:26:59.719 kept dumping bing bing bing of that movie. 1:26:59.800 --> 1:27:02.000 That just added on to that because I knew, like 1:27:02.120 --> 1:27:04.120 who I was dying to get one of them at 1:27:04.120 --> 1:27:04.479 the time. 1:27:04.800 --> 1:27:07.560 Oh Niggas soon as I left that motherfucker, and the 1:27:07.760 --> 1:27:11.599 next the next motherfucking week, nigga I was Nigga had 1:27:11.680 --> 1:27:12.840 one of their motherfuckers. 1:27:14.479 --> 1:27:15.559 It was fourteen hundred. 1:27:15.640 --> 1:27:18.960 It was about yeah, yeah, that motherfucker about fourteen fifteen. Yeah, 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:24.240 yeah that I That motherfucker was beautiful too. That motherfucker 1:27:24.360 --> 1:27:26.920 was big as a motherfucker. That big ass barrel on 1:27:27.040 --> 1:27:29.480 the end, it just sounded like pure metal. 1:27:29.240 --> 1:27:30.000 When you cocked it. 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:35.720 Yeah. I love that part of that movie. I loved 1:27:35.720 --> 1:27:37.680 a lot of that movie, but that that right there, 1:27:37.720 --> 1:27:40.400 I was like because that made me. I was like, Oh, 1:27:40.479 --> 1:27:43.320 the director is gangster is a motherfucker. He made sure 1:27:43.400 --> 1:27:44.599 it was ten shots too. 1:27:44.760 --> 1:27:48.200 Oh No, I Allen and Albert was cool, but a 1:27:48.320 --> 1:27:53.519 lot of my role I got to improvise, you get me, 1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:59.960 because uh, niggas was actors, you get me. Loren's was acting, 1:28:00.080 --> 1:28:06.600 the Tyron was an actor, Jada was an actor, and 1:28:06.880 --> 1:28:10.360 and and the other niggas like too short or whatever 1:28:10.960 --> 1:28:12.120 they you know, it was. 1:28:12.320 --> 1:28:12.560 It was. 1:28:12.800 --> 1:28:15.200 It was a lot of less role because we don't 1:28:15.240 --> 1:28:19.320 want to take away some of the authenticity from niggas 1:28:19.400 --> 1:28:24.639 being Street affiliated. So when it came down to ship 1:28:24.800 --> 1:28:26.760 that I either had to because you know, I had 1:28:26.760 --> 1:28:29.280 a lot of lines and a lot of ship. So 1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:32.480 when it came down to even ship as simple as wardrobe, 1:28:33.800 --> 1:28:37.120 I'd be like, niggas don't wear that type of ship, 1:28:37.520 --> 1:28:39.800 and niggas don't wear that. So you know, most of 1:28:39.880 --> 1:28:41.439 the time I would just wear my own ship. 1:28:42.840 --> 1:28:44.640 I wear my own ship, and I just try to. 1:28:45.840 --> 1:28:48.519 I just try. Yeah, definitely West Coast. 1:28:50.760 --> 1:28:53.840 Right now, there's supposed to be West Coast, and I 1:28:53.960 --> 1:28:55.960 really can't get into them all the way. I ain't 1:28:56.000 --> 1:28:57.360 gonna say the name of the show. 1:29:00.040 --> 1:29:01.680 To do that. He said, no, you're gonna put them 1:29:01.680 --> 1:29:05.200 on blast. It's everything. 1:29:05.520 --> 1:29:08.880 Yeah, yeah, the way you dress, what you affiliated with, 1:29:09.080 --> 1:29:12.439 what you're trying to represent that all can tell in 1:29:12.520 --> 1:29:13.719 the pattern of your clothing. 1:29:13.960 --> 1:29:14.479 You get me. 1:29:14.760 --> 1:29:16.960 Uh, you're supposed to be a hood nigga from l 1:29:17.000 --> 1:29:19.719 A or Compton or the streets period, and you West Coast, 1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:22.280 Southern California, San Diego. 1:29:23.600 --> 1:29:25.120 Ship. You ain't on a certain you. 1:29:25.160 --> 1:29:27.160 Can't do no West Coast movie. And the nigga got 1:29:27.200 --> 1:29:28.000 on tims. 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:33.439 Just exactly definitely. You can't put on no TEMs and 1:29:33.560 --> 1:29:35.559 try to confuse it with like, you know. 1:29:35.560 --> 1:29:36.559 Who did a good job. 1:29:37.000 --> 1:29:38.960 You did a good job, And I'm gonna tell you 1:29:39.040 --> 1:29:42.519 what he did a good job. Snowfall did an excellent 1:29:42.720 --> 1:29:47.880 job for the most part of making sure that motherfuckers 1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:52.120 stayed on point. But I'm gonna tell you what that 1:29:52.400 --> 1:29:54.840 was because they had Duve see yut there. You know 1:29:54.960 --> 1:29:56.600 he was on the set making sure a lot of 1:29:56.600 --> 1:29:59.360 that stuff was on point, especially when you talk about 1:29:59.400 --> 1:30:02.200 from the point Dick Jerome is not the dude to 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:05.439 play Uncle Jerome wasn't even from out here though, He's not. 1:30:05.479 --> 1:30:08.400 From day from Brooklyn somewhere, and he played the hell 1:30:08.439 --> 1:30:09.160 out that part. Man. 1:30:09.200 --> 1:30:10.360 I could tell he from Brooklyn. 1:30:11.000 --> 1:30:13.240 You could tell you think you don't think, I think 1:30:13.280 --> 1:30:18.120 you just given him a hard time, mixed. Uncle Jerome 1:30:18.160 --> 1:30:18.960 is singing right to you. 1:30:21.680 --> 1:30:25.880 Uncle Jerome didn't seem like no crip. I don't think 1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:28.720 he was going to West Coast India supposed to be 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:29.160 no crip. 1:30:29.720 --> 1:30:30.960 Well, he was a nigga. They say he was a 1:30:31.000 --> 1:30:31.920 Texas nigga. 1:30:31.640 --> 1:30:33.680 A risin Okay, So that's the storyline. 1:30:33.720 --> 1:30:34.679 He was a risk Texas. 1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:35.400 Okay, there you go. 1:30:36.200 --> 1:30:38.040 But if you look at the eighties, that's all. It 1:30:38.160 --> 1:30:40.160 was a bunch of big country motherfuckers out here in 1:30:40.200 --> 1:30:40.559 the eighties. 1:30:40.640 --> 1:30:42.320 If you remember, he. 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:44.120 Just come from the docks, just come from the South, 1:30:44.520 --> 1:30:48.160 early on, get it. You know, he was the early 1:30:48.320 --> 1:30:51.720 on dudes. You know, dude, no doubt. Yeah, you kind 1:30:51.760 --> 1:30:53.080 of gave me a looking at you didn't think they 1:30:53.160 --> 1:30:53.840 did a big job. 1:30:54.040 --> 1:30:56.840 No, no, no, I was just a situation like that, 1:30:57.120 --> 1:30:59.200 like I see, if I'm doing it, cast it and 1:30:59.240 --> 1:31:02.360 I'm doing the war joke, and it's on the West Coast, 1:31:02.840 --> 1:31:04.720 it's we're gonna come on, man, We're gonna at least 1:31:05.000 --> 1:31:07.200 see one period of case Swiss or something in the eighties. 1:31:07.280 --> 1:31:10.360 My nigga, you feel we're gonna see some kse Swiss. 1:31:10.400 --> 1:31:13.320 We're gonna see some motherfucking We're gonna see. 1:31:13.160 --> 1:31:15.040 Some I think what they overdo it, that is with 1:31:15.120 --> 1:31:18.000 the chuck tailors and stuff over Chucks and yeah, beaxactly. 1:31:18.040 --> 1:31:18.680 I ain't gonna lie. 1:31:18.720 --> 1:31:20.599 When I came out here and eighty eight niggas wasn't 1:31:20.600 --> 1:31:24.960 walking around just wearing kers and like that. Niggas was 1:31:25.000 --> 1:31:27.800 wearing Jordan's Niggas. You know what I'm saying. They was 1:31:27.840 --> 1:31:30.040 wearing Kse Swiss. They was wearing the. 1:31:30.400 --> 1:31:35.400 Gang bangers wear Chuck like active gang bangers, not gang members, 1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:40.519 gang bangers, We're Chuck Taylors, you feel me. Yeah, niggas 1:31:40.840 --> 1:31:44.200 money having thousands and hundreds of thousands of dollars, niggas 1:31:44.240 --> 1:31:46.960 wearing some you know, some Eleast and some Sergio Tikini's 1:31:46.960 --> 1:31:47.280 and something. 1:31:47.360 --> 1:31:51.720 Man, I saw more. I saw more feeler straight up. 1:31:53.040 --> 1:31:54.639 With the little silk shirts they had. 1:31:55.360 --> 1:31:57.559 It wasn't no name, it was just the silk, little 1:31:57.600 --> 1:32:01.760 silk shirts, ch silk shirts with the sideways corduroy. 1:32:01.880 --> 1:32:06.240 This way cross courts y. That's where I guess, man, 1:32:06.320 --> 1:32:08.519 where I was at. Everybody was ballers on the team. 1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:11.919 That's everybody were cross courts and at least feelers. 1:32:12.160 --> 1:32:13.519 All that everybody was draped up. 1:32:13.560 --> 1:32:15.719 You know, everybody had money. 1:32:16.880 --> 1:32:18.400 Everybody had money back then. 1:32:18.520 --> 1:32:23.679 Man, I was, but I saw it then, But I saw. 1:32:23.560 --> 1:32:26.840 It before we get up out of here. Man, what's 1:32:26.920 --> 1:32:27.639 on the agenda? 1:32:27.720 --> 1:32:29.840 Man, Man, I got I got a gang of ship 1:32:29.920 --> 1:32:32.120 going on right now, first or foremost, what I'm doing 1:32:32.200 --> 1:32:34.960 every day right now. I got a clothing line I started. 1:32:35.200 --> 1:32:39.120 Everybody got a clothing line. But I'm making some quality 1:32:39.200 --> 1:32:41.840 ship for street niggas on me, West Coast street niggas. 1:32:41.880 --> 1:32:43.840 And I say that because it's different fits and different 1:32:43.880 --> 1:32:46.120 ship everywhere. A lot of these niggas trying to fit 1:32:46.240 --> 1:32:49.400 into you know, European fashion. I ain't doing that. I 1:32:49.439 --> 1:32:53.200 gotta I gotta line. It's specifically for niggas like me 1:32:53.360 --> 1:32:58.439 and the hummies. You know, I make sure I have 1:32:58.600 --> 1:32:59.960 big niggas. Shit, whatch you were? Hommy? 1:33:00.040 --> 1:33:02.680 Three four three three x man? Certain ship for us, 1:33:02.760 --> 1:33:04.840 But that's what we need. Is I going to story 1:33:05.000 --> 1:33:05.720 by a certain ship? 1:33:05.760 --> 1:33:06.280 Already know that? 1:33:06.479 --> 1:33:08.360 And all they got for us is polos Man that 1:33:08.400 --> 1:33:09.640 ships so disrespectful to. 1:33:09.720 --> 1:33:12.200 Make sure I make fours and five. I even got 1:33:12.240 --> 1:33:15.960 shipped five x in my in my life. That's good, hummies, 1:33:16.000 --> 1:33:18.600 but uh yeah, it's called trip where I live. You 1:33:18.640 --> 1:33:21.800 can go to tribwilelive dot com and we hustling right there. 1:33:21.840 --> 1:33:23.559 I mean, I'm gonna turn that ship into some major 1:33:23.960 --> 1:33:25.439 and I'm gonna make sure I have something for the 1:33:25.479 --> 1:33:26.960 show too, you know what I'm saying, so the hommies 1:33:27.000 --> 1:33:27.360 can have it. 1:33:27.840 --> 1:33:28.360 Oh for sure. 1:33:28.360 --> 1:33:30.240 And I'm working on music too, man, Like I got 1:33:30.280 --> 1:33:32.280 a lot of a few projects coming out. I've been 1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:34.519 doing like a lot of specialty projects. I just dropped 1:33:34.520 --> 1:33:37.240 the album last year with a servetted Donald and I 1:33:37.400 --> 1:33:39.600 mean they did a single on the group album. He 1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:43.479 a hard ass producer from Fresno and ship hard as 1:33:43.520 --> 1:33:48.000 fuck and no, no, no, no no wait wait Cervet 1:33:48.520 --> 1:33:54.240 is from Man, what's Servet from? He from He right 1:33:54.320 --> 1:33:56.519 there by first though. But anyway, we did an album 1:33:56.640 --> 1:34:01.040 call on, Call On. Everybody hates Mitch. Have some slaps 1:34:01.080 --> 1:34:04.160 on there, have foty on their had a jay Worthy 1:34:04.240 --> 1:34:06.040 on that thing. Shout out to the homies Fody and 1:34:06.120 --> 1:34:08.000 jay Worthy for rocking that for me. 1:34:08.320 --> 1:34:10.320 Jay Worthy, Man, I saw that boy come up. Man. 1:34:10.560 --> 1:34:12.200 Oh yeah, man, he's still gonna come up. 1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:15.240 I got a new we got he got a new single, 1:34:15.320 --> 1:34:18.960 Lot right now on see he gonna keep it g Yeah, 1:34:19.000 --> 1:34:23.080 that's my Yeah, that's my little dude right there. Nigga pee, 1:34:23.439 --> 1:34:25.719 nigga p my nigga pee, keep it moving. 1:34:27.479 --> 1:34:28.479 He a good cat man. 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:31.560 He wanted he wanted to. He wanted to throws what 1:34:31.680 --> 1:34:33.800 I mean better, I mean, like a real homie type ship. 1:34:34.640 --> 1:34:37.479 Ain't trying to stick to that old school for Matt. 1:34:37.600 --> 1:34:38.920 He loved the old school for. 1:34:39.200 --> 1:34:43.200 Looking any any showed homage to it ninety six, ninety five. 1:34:43.400 --> 1:34:44.360 He loves that era. 1:34:44.640 --> 1:34:48.000 He shows homage to that. And yeah, he was on 1:34:48.160 --> 1:34:50.600 that album. And then I got an album uffin to 1:34:50.640 --> 1:34:53.000 put out right now. This is just straight gutter Mitchie 1:34:53.040 --> 1:34:54.880 slick shit. For all the people that might have forgot, 1:34:55.000 --> 1:34:59.080 I got it fucked up. It's called selective politicking. And 1:34:59.720 --> 1:35:02.280 it's just the raw s s something like some trigger 1:35:02.320 --> 1:35:04.080 raising station shit. Damn there, you know what I mean? 1:35:04.360 --> 1:35:06.080 That's are you be coming up with some titles? 1:35:06.120 --> 1:35:08.040 Man? But that's the my my whole thing the whole 1:35:08.080 --> 1:35:10.320 time being concepts, you know what I'm saying, Just concepts 1:35:10.360 --> 1:35:12.599 with the the shit I'm talking about on the song, 1:35:13.320 --> 1:35:16.160 the the the the the the shit, the the it's 1:35:16.200 --> 1:35:19.560 it's concepts with me. I try to the way I 1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:22.320 learned it that you know, Urban survival syndrome is a 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:26.800 real it's a defense plea that the's it's it's it's 1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:32.679 supposed to be a clinically uh uh a clinical condition 1:35:33.800 --> 1:35:37.920 that's been diagnosed a an and and and said to 1:35:38.000 --> 1:35:40.960 be had by young chats in the street that basically 1:35:41.400 --> 1:35:44.160 especially like a fight or flight type of uh type 1:35:44.200 --> 1:35:47.120 of mental condition to where when you see it nigga 1:35:47.160 --> 1:35:49.000 walking down the street, you don't think, oh, there goes 1:35:49.040 --> 1:35:52.200 another brother, right, you know, you think shit with this? 1:35:52.360 --> 1:35:55.519 Who this nigga automatically think that you know, feel me. 1:35:55.880 --> 1:35:57.760 And that's a condition we all have coming from what 1:35:57.840 --> 1:36:00.360 we c have. It's it's connected to PTSD and ship 1:36:00.880 --> 1:36:04.360 and ship. Yeah man, I did that with Mugs that album. 1:36:04.439 --> 1:36:06.200 Yeah yeah, yeah, we did the album and Muggs did 1:36:06.240 --> 1:36:08.040 Irby surviv was sitting on that was like two thousand 1:36:08.040 --> 1:36:09.680 and eight. Shout out to the homie DJ Mugs. We 1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:11.960 also working on some ship now. I've been I've been 1:36:12.000 --> 1:36:14.160 getting my little here and there everywhere. I'm working with 1:36:14.240 --> 1:36:16.040 the few Mike and Keys, you know, Mike and Keys 1:36:16.120 --> 1:36:19.200 and did all Nipsey ship were working right now. We 1:36:19.320 --> 1:36:21.200 just did like three songs to start our project the 1:36:21.240 --> 1:36:23.680 other day. I'm all over the place right now. I mean, 1:36:23.680 --> 1:36:25.320 you know what I'm saying because I I don't do 1:36:25.439 --> 1:36:26.920 this ship because I got to. I do this ship 1:36:26.920 --> 1:36:30.519 because I because I'm just a competitive nigga that like 1:36:30.560 --> 1:36:32.400 people to hear what I what I made and ship 1:36:32.520 --> 1:36:34.680 like that. And uh, you know, if you're laying on 1:36:34.840 --> 1:36:37.280 on some masses at this time in my career, that's 1:36:37.320 --> 1:36:39.120 cool too. But if it dumb shit, I ain't tripping. 1:36:39.240 --> 1:36:41.320 Just just some repping for my city, you know what 1:36:41.320 --> 1:36:41.559 I mean. 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:45.400 That's doll man. I know Mac Tin a big fan. 1:36:45.760 --> 1:36:47.599 That's my nigga. Man, shout out to Mac ten. Mac 1:36:47.640 --> 1:36:49.680 Ten had me come out on that uh on that 1:36:49.840 --> 1:36:52.559 uh that West Coast ship. Man, I'm a giant. 1:36:53.000 --> 1:36:54.200 Yeah that turned out real big. 1:36:54.560 --> 1:36:55.880 That was jumbo Man. That was a. 1:36:57.479 --> 1:36:59.400 That was a Mac. 1:36:59.479 --> 1:37:01.800 Turns out Mac did the metley at the end Man 1:37:02.000 --> 1:37:03.920 and all the records. I ain't realize Mac had that 1:37:04.000 --> 1:37:04.519 many records. 1:37:04.520 --> 1:37:06.800 I ain't never got to perform that. That was my 1:37:07.040 --> 1:37:09.640 That's the first time eate I ever really performed for 1:37:09.760 --> 1:37:13.360 a group of fans of what I really do. The 1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:16.800 most exactly like all the real niggas was at that show. 1:37:17.360 --> 1:37:20.080 I just want to thank the homie Mac for that opportunity. Homie, 1:37:20.680 --> 1:37:22.320 you know what I'm saying. That was a good look 1:37:22.360 --> 1:37:22.560 for me. 1:37:22.760 --> 1:37:26.160 Yes, sir, Yeah it was. Man. Well, Man, we I 1:37:26.240 --> 1:37:28.120 know we don't have y'all in here for a minute tonight, 1:37:28.160 --> 1:37:29.479 but this was one of those ones. 1:37:29.560 --> 1:37:29.760 Man. 1:37:30.080 --> 1:37:33.639 We appreciate y'all checking in with us. Man, make sure 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:38.920 y'all leave us at five star rating Man on Apple, Spotify, 1:37:39.000 --> 1:37:40.760 wherever you listen to the show at and we out 1:37:40.760 --> 1:37:40.960 of here. 1:37:41.479 --> 1:37:41.719 Yeah. 1:37:42.240 --> 1:37:45.200 Well, that concludes another episode of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast. 1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:47.560 Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to 1:37:47.600 --> 1:37:50.560 the Gangst the Chronicles podcast For Apple users, find a 1:37:50.560 --> 1:37:52.560 purple Michael on the front of your screen. Subscribe to 1:37:52.640 --> 1:37:55.519 the show leader Common and Rating. 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