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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson And it is a Monday, A beautiful Monday.

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Speaker 1: It's just beautiful outside.

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Speaker 2: I was sitting outside in shorts and a T shirt,

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Speaker 2: just getting soaked in sun with the wife. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I almost felt like I was back at Mobile. It

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Speaker 1: was you got good weather there, I got really good.

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Speaker 2: That could be a lot worse.

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Speaker 1: So the weird thing is.

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Speaker 2: So I I I.

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Speaker 1: When I got back, my wife's like, oh you got

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Speaker 1: you got the sunburn pretty good?

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Speaker 2: Okay, because.

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Speaker 1: The media where they have all the media people, they

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Speaker 1: have the the coaches and scouts are on one side

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Speaker 1: of the stadium, the medium or on the other. We're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to cross over, so all the sun was

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Speaker 1: coming in on the left side where it was that

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Speaker 1: the entire time I was out watching practice.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the first yeah, I forgot. Once again you'd think

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Speaker 1: I start to remember this stuff, but I forgot to

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Speaker 1: take sunscreen with me. So the first day, the entire

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Speaker 1: left side of my I look like two Batman. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I actually heard many of the same stories because I

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Speaker 2: listened a bunch of podcasts throughout the week, of this

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Speaker 2: is where I saw day one. Blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Almost everyone's like, yeah, half my face is burnt because

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Speaker 2: you sit and stay watch the practice for six straight

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Speaker 2: hours something. Also, just come from the north and don't

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Speaker 2: think about sunscreen in February and January.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think about it because it wasn't that

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's not like it was ninety, right,

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Speaker 1: it was sixty crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just direct sun, direct sun, a little more south,

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Speaker 2: good drip all and all. Yeah, it was good.

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Speaker 1: It's good. Then that's better than way rain and cold.

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Speaker 2: I remember my first year. I took like a light

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Speaker 2: jacket and it was like forty I'm like, we're in Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I thought time. Yeah, yeah, wet. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: actually flew into uh uh, Pensacola, which is right on

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Speaker 1: the corner. So I was in Florida and drove over.

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Speaker 2: To was it like an hour and a half two hours, Like.

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Speaker 1: Not even an hour. Really it's an easy drive. But

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Speaker 1: you're right there on the on the Florida border with

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Speaker 1: the Alabama Florida border. You think it would be warmer.

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Speaker 2: You would think it would be warmer. Yeah, but you

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Speaker 2: got good weather. Yeah, there's good players down there.

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Speaker 1: Too, really good players down there. And I'm looking now

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Speaker 1: at Daniel Jeremiah's top ten draft winners following last week's

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Speaker 1: Senior Bull So let's go over what he thought.

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Speaker 2: It might be hard to narrow down to ten. There

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Speaker 2: was a lot of strong showings. Yeah, so he said.

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Speaker 1: One of the number one first guy on here, Malachai Corley,

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Speaker 1: the Western Kentucky wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Certainly a good environment for him in that get him

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Speaker 2: in space, get him up the field, get the ball

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Speaker 2: them quick, not a real elaborate rout tree, but also

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Speaker 2: a bad environment for him because the quarterback stunk. Well,

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Speaker 2: a quarterbacks stunk. I was there from the other perspective

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Speaker 2: of he couldn't show his tackle breaking abilities and practices too,

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Speaker 2: you know, running over defensive backs. Deebo Samuel was the

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Speaker 2: obvious Yeah, comp to him, and see, let's play this

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Speaker 2: game too. How do these guys affect the Steelers? If

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Speaker 2: could you see a world where he's their second round pick?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I could do him. I think it'd

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I could say I've being a real good fit.

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Speaker 1: DJ said he thought he ran really good routes during

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Speaker 1: the drills and that's why he That's what you wanted

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Speaker 2: I remember you saying going in. You know what he

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Speaker 2: needs to show is could he run outs and comebacks

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Speaker 2: and you know the basic rout tree. Another thing about

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Speaker 2: and he does. I mean he throws his body around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Bradon fisked the defensive tackle out of Florida State. He

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Speaker 1: got traded on games.

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Speaker 2: Get traded on game for nothing, that's not a trade.

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Speaker 2: They didn't get anything back, but I guess they were

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Speaker 1: Of the week. And then he went out and yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I didn't notice and last I think

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Speaker 2: didn't realize he is kind of a short armed guy.

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Speaker 2: But that's really about the only major negative I could find.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one inch arms for a guy that six '

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Speaker 2: all over the field, nasty, hard to block.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player. Yeah. Uh. Talasi Fuaga, the offensive

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Speaker 1: And it's really between him and the in Latham from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Who I mean, if you're looking for a plug and

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Speaker 2: I would lump mems into and Geyiton was only a

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Speaker 2: right tackle Okay, true, too true? And he looks like

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Speaker 2: I think Geiten's going to need a little bit more

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Speaker 1: When you say plug and play, I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: The same thing with Mims. Who do I want to

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Speaker 1: Those two guys are more experienced doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he sure shows it. I mean his techniques

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Speaker 2: really good. He's powerful. I mean, I think everyone knows

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Speaker 2: those drills. It does not favor an offensive time, not

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Speaker 1: They could go either way.

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Speaker 2: There's a health to the inside. And he wasn't perfect.

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Speaker 2: He got beat here and there by good players. There's

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Speaker 2: but he definitely was the winner, far more than he was. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's powerful.

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Speaker 1: He could be a Steeler Stars round pick, Oh, no doubt. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then he mentions Geiton, Okay, so different than him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean long and athletic and limber and flexible, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Oklahoma had two tackles drafted the top three rounds,

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Speaker 1: He mentions Theo Johnson, the tight end out of Penn State.

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Speaker 1: I thought he clearly stood out as the best tight

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Speaker 2: I mean like if you see Cam Newton or Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: their measurements don't Ben Roethlisberger, their measurements don't do them

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Speaker 2: He had that feel about him, like he looked bigger

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Speaker 2: is like two sixty five runs, well, good hands, good player. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Quinny and Mitchell, we've talked a lot about him. He

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Speaker 2: had a great week of practice. Great week of practice,

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Speaker 2: showed he could play press man, rarely gave up completions,

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Speaker 2: which that greatly favors receivers. I mean, I think he's

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Speaker 2: a I don't say if he's a fifty to fifty

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Speaker 1: I talked to some scouts style now, they don't think

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Speaker 1: he's guaranteed first round or not even I'm hearing like

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Speaker 1: for first or second, Okay, but largely because the offensive

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Speaker 1: you take the big guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And a mistake that all of us make and

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Speaker 2: I'm guilty of as we speak is fresh off Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 2: he verified himself as a first round er. No, he didn't.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of time left, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: interviews left. There's a combine just right around.

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Speaker 1: We have Amy go out and run a four to

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Speaker 1: sixty five at the combine.

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Speaker 2: And terrible interviews and bad jumps and you know, terrible drills.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's still it's not over.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 2: He threw the ball well early in the week.

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Speaker 1: And then kind of and then he didn't.

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Speaker 2: Play in a game. So that's one thing that not

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Speaker 2: being that was one of many things that I think

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Speaker 2: you lose. I think there's great value watching all those

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Speaker 2: the guys that well. I mean I say that.

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Speaker 1: When you when you combined armed arm talent with accuracy, So.

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Speaker 2: I would say arm talent, armed strength, but arm talent.

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Speaker 2: I mean throwing off a back leg, you know, with

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Speaker 1: Milton throws it harder and and you know, further panics

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Speaker 1: I thought through with more just accuracy on on you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is either in today's NFL. I

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Speaker 2: mean he just doesn't create enough. And some of it's

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Speaker 2: just watching his final game at Washington against a legit

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Speaker 2: well enough. But with a good offensive line in front,

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Speaker 2: and say with a really good line and ridiculous receivers,

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Speaker 2: he struggled a lot. Yeah, we talked a lot about

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Speaker 1: Darius Robinson, the defensive lineman out of Missouri. I do

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Speaker 2: I could see that as a first.

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Speaker 1: Round guy because there just aren't many big guys like

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Speaker 2: I heard of comparison I kind of liked it's a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl contributor. Here is Eric Armstead. Armstead's a little taller,

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Speaker 2: but like Armstead's going to line up at the end

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Speaker 2: in this game, He's gonna line up a three technique.

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Speaker 2: He's going to line up maybe even over the nose

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Speaker 2: on passing situations. This guy thinks more explosive. He's not

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Speaker 2: as long, but nobody could block him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he's a legit six five, three hundred

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Speaker 1: pounder that looks like a Greek god explosive. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I hate to say this, but I could see him

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Speaker 2: being the Ravens first round pick. The Ravens I bet

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Speaker 2: would love what he does, especially if you know mighty

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Speaker 2: Bouquet goes or a couple of edge guys unless somebody

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Speaker 2: else grabs him.

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Speaker 1: Ahead of him. He has Peyton Wilson, the linebacker at events.

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Speaker 1: He stayed as a winner here.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't see a lot from him. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's tough in those kinds of situations. The short arms,

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Speaker 2: the short arms is troublesome for me. He's like six '

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Speaker 2: four with really short arms. There was a lot of

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Speaker 2: buzz about him coming in, you know that only concerns

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Speaker 1: Or medical I mean, did make plays?

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Speaker 1: I just went out and worked against these guys all

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Speaker 2: I don't dislike him at all. Yeah, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: He's a two offensive linemen stood out Wisconsin's Tanner Bordolini

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's a pretty good history there. I

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Speaker 1: That's the modern that's the modern inside linebacker in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: I think there's room there. I mean they've carried five

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Speaker 2: You're talking about as a draftable player. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: And this again, at the very least, they they they're

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Speaker 2: They know how to run down and hit somebody. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and none of these linebackers are gonna look like Levon Kirklin.

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Speaker 2: Mark Madden before we were on here, and he was

439
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Speaker 2: asked to me some breakdowns, like I haven't really thought

440
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Speaker 2: about it.

441
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Speaker 1: Yeah, people were asking me when I got back.

442
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,359
Speaker 2: You know, I went out with my wife and some

443
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,119
Speaker 2: people recognized me for different groups and stuff.

444
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Speaker 1: Who you like in the Super Bowl.

445
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, I haven't really looked at it. I know,

446
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,880
Speaker 2: I said, you have a very little thought, but it's

447
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 2: hard to go against my homes. I know that I

448
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,479
Speaker 2: like both teams for good, but there's not a lot

449
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,200
Speaker 2: of matchups I've dug into. My mind has been very

450
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 2: heavy Senior Bowl and offensive coordinator for the Steelers, slash

451
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 2: coaching changes and hires round That's where I've been on. Yeah,

452
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 2: absolutely changed that tune though.

453
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,439
Speaker 1: Yes, this week goes almost talk more about it.

454
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:34,880
Speaker 2: But yeah.

455
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 1: So today on NFL dot Com, Kevin Patra put together

456
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Speaker 1: a one off season move for each AFC team and

457
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Speaker 1: how they can try to catch the Chiefs.

458
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's a good call for kind.

459
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Speaker 1: Of important because the Chiefs have been in the Super Bowl,

460
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 1: Like they're getting pretty good this year, getting pretty Yeah.

461
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 2: They hadn't gone to a Super Bowl from nineteen was

462
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Speaker 2: nineteen seven eight or whatever the lends until three or

463
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 2: until Mahomes got there, and now they're there all the time. Yeah.

464
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 2: And what's crazy is you can lose a Tyreek Hill.

465
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: Maybe they're going to lose a Chris Jones this offseason.

466
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Speaker 2: But I don't think aybody's counting them out, you know,

467
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,239
Speaker 2: going forward either, right, why would you?

468
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's fourteen and three in the playoffs. It's unbelievable.

469
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 1: Fourteen to three, fourteen, He's already has the second most

470
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Speaker 1: playoffs time, for the second most playoff wins for a

471
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Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history.

472
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Speaker 2: Is he twenty eight? I think so, And he's well

473
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Speaker 2: under thirty. Yeah, and he's I think he's getting better. Yeah,

474
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's unbelievable. He just doesn't make

475
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,239
Speaker 2: the big mistake. That's what you know when people talk, well,

476
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 2: who's you, you know, who are you going to have

477
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 2: a quarterback that can go into Kansas City and beat Mahomes?

478
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody can. Allen's not, Lamar's not.

479
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean they can't, but it doesn't mean

480
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 2: he can't do it on occasion. But you're not going

481
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 2: to There's nobody in this draft, for example, that I

482
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 2: think is going to consistently do that. There's nobody you know,

483
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 2: going out and getting Kirk Cousins right in free agency doesn't.

484
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Speaker 1: Mean you're going to go in there and beat Mahomes

485
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City.

486
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,239
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody's doing it.

487
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: Look what they did this year.

488
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: They went on the road. Yeah, and he beat Josh

489
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 2: Allen and Lamar Jackson. Were they They were the one

490
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: seed and the two seed, right, yeah?

491
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's lots too shabby.

492
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah against probably the dudes who win the MVP, and

493
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: Alan will be the third or fourth runner up. He's

494
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: on the finalist. Yeah, I'm like, your answer at quarterback

495
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: probably isn't going to be better than Alan or Lamar.

496
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 2: So the thing is you have to have something else.

497
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: You have to have a great team around that quarterback,

498
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Speaker 1: whoever it is.

499
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Speaker 2: I mean, either way, you're at a disadvantage, at a

500
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Speaker 2: disadvantage of that piece that's special, right.

501
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

502
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: But Brady was the same way for a long time,

503
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: and he didn't go to the Super Bowl every year. No, No,

504
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: I mean, in fact.

505
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Speaker 1: If you look at Brady's you know he went early. Yeah,

506
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Speaker 1: then there was about a ten year period, there was

507
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Speaker 1: a lull in the middle, and then he went again late.

508
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Speaker 2: Although I don't think twenty year old twenty eight year

509
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Speaker 2: old Brady was thought of like this guy at all.

510
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: No close. Yeah, you know. Anyway, so let's take a

511
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: look carre of you want to jump to the Steelers first,

512
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: you want to save them.

513
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: Let's say it for last, Okay, so keep people hanging

514
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Speaker 2: for the Ravens.

515
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Speaker 1: Their big move is to keep Justin Metabuket in town,

516
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: regardless of the cost franchise. I think you have to

517
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Speaker 1: consider it. You have to consider it.

518
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 2: But those guys are getting expensive.

519
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: If you do that, then you don't you know, some

520
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: of the other guys that they have in free agency here,

521
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: they lose a lot of the other pieces, the parental pieces.

522
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Speaker 2: I mean either way, I mean, if you keep Matta

523
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: Bouquet at any cost, it's going to be expensive. You're

524
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Speaker 2: buying high. I think he's worth it, and for where

525
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: that team is, I think I'm with him. I mean

526
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 2: that would probably be my vote to Yeah, you know,

527
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Speaker 2: if it means cutting Ronnie Stanley and not having back

528
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Speaker 2: them back.

529
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Speaker 1: And a couple other things.

530
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Speaker 2: So be it like Queen's not going to prib be

531
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Speaker 2: back and you know.

532
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be to be expensive for the

533
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Say goodbye to some longtime vets. He's saying

534
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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, Tredavius White, Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde.

535
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: I don't know about Digs. I'd like to know more

536
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: about Diggs twenty seven point nine million dollar cap hit,

537
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: but Gaye Davis is up, I understand. I mean you're

538
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: not getting it out of Digs. I mean he had

539
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Speaker 2: a hundred yard game I think in like his last

540
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: twelve including the playoffs. Yeah, I just wonder if there's

541
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Speaker 2: an injury there. That's my only thing, is like because

542
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: he all of a sudden, he was gone. You know,

543
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Speaker 2: well they started running the ball, more coordinator change in

544
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 2: home either. But you can't get that out of him

545
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Speaker 2: at twenty seven million.

546
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Speaker 1: No, no, I mean almost twenty eight million. Yeah, that's

547
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: rough for the Bengals. Apply the franchise tag to T Higgins.

548
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: That's going to be super expensive.

549
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, h but you probably don't do anything else then.

550
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's yeah, all chips in. You assume Burrows

551
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Speaker 2: back to where he has been. You probably draft to

552
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Speaker 2: right tackle and maybe a detackle to replace Reader, and

553
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: hope you're the team you were two years ago, not

554
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Speaker 2: this past year. I'd love to talk to him and

555
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Speaker 2: get him a two or three year deal instead of

556
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Speaker 2: the franchise tag. But and I guess, I mean if

557
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: you franchise tag them and the paint always trade. Yeah,

558
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: someone offers you a crazy godfather deal, you consider it

559
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: before the draft.

560
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: Said, here are the three options, and extend Higgins on

561
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Speaker 1: a deal that is commensurate with his value, even factoring

562
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Speaker 1: in the potential Jamar Chase extension.

563
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Said Chase and Burrow, I mean expensive too.

564
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Speaker 1: You're gonna be paying your two wide receivers fifty plus

565
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: million dollars, in your quarterback fifty million dollars. You got

566
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars tied up basically in three players. Yeah,

567
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Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's a proper use of

568
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: your as a franchise allocating your resources. Right, ride out

569
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four with Higgins on the tag, and reassess

570
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: after the seasons.

571
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Speaker 2: I think that's you try to win the Super Bowls.

572
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: Year and yeah, put your chips in.

573
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Speaker 1: Or trade Higgins post tag to a wide receiver team,

574
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: needy team willing to give him a contract extension.

575
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Speaker 2: You'd hate for him to walk just for a third

576
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Speaker 2: round pick. Yeah, I mean so if you could tag them,

577
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Speaker 2: live with that for a while, maybe restructure it. Even

578
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Speaker 2: if he got a two, he was a two, yeah,

579
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: two before the draft to receiver rich draft, you know

580
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: that maybe that means get something or you get a

581
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: young receiver back or you know, yeah, I bet Boyd

582
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: won't be back. No, I think that for the Cleveland

583
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: Browns quick Brown's note them losing their Bengals nose too.

584
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: Is the Daddy son combination. This division got hit pretty

585
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: hard the last couple of weeks, certainly. I mean the

586
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: Steelers think they upgraded the offensive coordinator. They didn't get

587
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: somebody stolen from them, but everyody else got people stolen.

588
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: They all got sniped. Yeah, and maybe none bigger than

589
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: the old line coach in Cleveland.

590
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big loss for the great great uh

591
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: call their thing that Petra thinks they need to do.

592
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: Find a field stretching number two wide receiver.

593
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that. I mean Watson's going to

594
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: be the quarterback. In his best days, he was a

595
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: really good d passer. You would think the running game

596
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: with or without Chubb should be at least average, you know,

597
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: with that line to get people off the line of

598
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: scrimmage and create some big plays. Maybe, But I don't

599
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: know if either one of their tackles will be back

600
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: worfs or conklin Will's or conklin Zdarius smiths up.

601
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: You know.

602
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: I mean, a couple of things that they just got

603
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: aren't gonna be bad.

604
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: They're not be able to afford to do everything that

605
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: they need to do. They really need Cedric Tilman to

606
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: hit mm hmm a big.

607
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: He was one of the most disappointing rookie receivers. Him

608
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: and Quinton Johnston where really didn't do anything. I like

609
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: both coming out, Uh for.

610
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Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos trade Jerry Judy or Courtland Sutton?

611
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: Maybe both? Yeah, maybe both.

612
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: Sutton was the much better player the two.

613
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what you would get

614
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: for Judy. What stud are you going to give? I

615
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: think they picked They did pick up his fifth year option, yeah,

616
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: which means he's expensive.

617
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: Right, Like so hypothetical Steelers are going to trade for

618
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Speaker 1: Judy give.

619
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Speaker 2: You a fifth. He's thirteen million dollars and for it

620
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: might be an Alan Robinson deal at this point. Yeah,

621
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: you know a receiver who might be a knucklehead. I

622
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: think he is. I think he's the most overrated route

623
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: runner in the league too. Everyone's like, oh, the sharp

624
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: routes that runs the wrong route all the time time

625
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: and he rounds him off. He's not a very disciplined player.

626
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. For the Texans, go

627
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: big game hunting.

628
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: Oh. I like that. I was about to say, go

629
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: get like a Saquon or Yeah.

630
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

631
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean they have some resources. They got a ton

632
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: of cap space, don't be foolish about it. But you

633
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: get two pieces.

634
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: They get some interesting guys that are are going to

635
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: be free agents. Jonathan Greenard, don't let him go. Steven Nelson.

636
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: I think they have to try to keep him. He's

637
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: still on like job, they're still only twenty nine.

638
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: But Stingley on the other side, he's been really good.

639
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: Number two, Dalton Schultz. Yeah, he matters to them.

640
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is a guy that I think would

641
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: be interesting in the Steelers mix.

642
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: Blake Cashman. I like him too. Yeah, kind of reminds

643
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: me of Tranquil a little bit. Drew Frank Weill is

644
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: a little bit undersized, solid, yeah, good in the mixed guy.

645
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he really took a step forward this year.

646
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: But they have a ton of cap space there. But

647
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: they you know, he's saying, what about bringing in a

648
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: guy like Mike Evans or you know, go get Daniel

649
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: Hunter or Lagerious Sneid.

650
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, so I would think they can afford to

651
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: do that.

652
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think it'd be on defense. I mean,

653
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: they have been rumored. I don't know why I keep

654
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: talking about Barkley there, but I keep hearing people bring

655
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: that up. But you know, Damiko Ryan's coming from the Niners.

656
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 2: Give me one more d Lineman, you know, like like

657
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: I don't think Chris Jones is going to hit the

658
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: open market, but if he did, oh yeah, something like that.

659
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: Kind of the hard grave.

660
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Move for the Colts. Tager extend Michael Pittman. We've talked

661
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: about Yea and they got to keep her sense. Yeah,

662
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: solid solid player for the Jaguars. Lockdown Josh Allen the franchise.

663
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: They need to do that.

664
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: For the Raiders, find their quarterback of the future because.

665
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: He ain't on the roster. He's not on the roster.

666
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: I fear for the Raiders, Like I think Pierce is

667
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: a tremendous story. I don't know how they're going to

668
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: be any better next year, though. I mean, I could

669
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: see them being in the fields mix. I could see

670
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 2: them doing like a JJ McCarthy earlier than he should,

671
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: or a Pinnix or a Knicks or somebody like that.

672
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: But boy, they have a lot of roster issues, and

673
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: I don't know that they're in a good place.

674
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't be the worst landing spot for

675
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. No, with the receivers that they have.

676
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: The offensive line is not terrible. No, No, you know,

677
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: so you have some weapons there. You have to, you know,

678
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: you figure out the running back position. But you can

679
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: do that.

680
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the defense was way better when Pierce took over. Yeah,

681
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't think they have very good players besides Crosby

682
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: on that side the bay.

683
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how sustainable.

684
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can, Yeah, for.

685
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: The Chargers do some spring cleaning.

686
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope Harbaugh is on board with that. Not like,

687
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: let's just pay these guys one more year and I

688
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: win it all because I think that will be cost.

689
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna get it done there. So

690
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: looking at some of these guys here, Mike Williams is

691
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: thirty two point five million dollar cap hit, Eric Kendrick's

692
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: nine point three million dollars, Khalil Mack thirty eight point

693
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 1: five million for Khalil Mack, Joey Bosas thirty six point six,

694
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: and these old.

695
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: Than what you think? Yeah, Uh, Keenan Allen's thirty four

696
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: point seven.

697
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: We've talked about this a lot. No, they got tons

698
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: of at least four of those guys got to be gone.

699
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: Gone, and some of them are going to be the

700
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: Allen Robinson deal. Just give me a seventh round pick

701
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: and take him off the books. If you're the Panthers,

702
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: give me. I'll take Keenan Allen if I got a

703
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: ton of cap spase, but still not necessarily a great move.

704
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. The interesting thing about that would be would be

705
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: looking at the base salaries of those guys and what

706
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: it was, what is going to cost somebody who's trading

707
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: for them. For example, if you trade for Keenan Allen,

708
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: that cap hit is thirty four point seven million dollars,

709
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: but might only be a ten million dollars salary, Yeah,

710
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: which would make him pretty Attractive'd.

711
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Be pretty attractive, right, especially if it's a late round

712
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: pick salary.

713
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: Doump.

714
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

715
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but one of these ones where we'll give you,

716
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: we'll give you a five for Keenan Allen and a seven.

717
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: What if you're Houston. Yeah, I'll put him next to

718
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: Dell and Nico and be the We don't have to

719
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: ask him to catch twelve balls a game, but catch

720
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: eight and seven of them are for first downs. Yeah,

721
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate that for the Steelers. I was thinking

722
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: the same thing.

723
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: He's a really good player.

724
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

725
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: For Miami. Release Emmanuel Ogbah.

726
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: That's not that big of a move.

727
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think. So it was thirty minutes. Well, his

728
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: captain seventeen point seven million dollars.

729
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: He had five and a half sacks this year.

730
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: No, I know that it was a bad contract. I mean,

731
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: I know he's getting cut.

732
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't think that's the earth shattering

733
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: move that some of these others are.

734
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks at Jerome Baker's another cut candidate. At

735
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: fourteen point eight million. That was a bad deal and

736
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: they signed a bad deal and signed it.

737
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

738
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Uh and then Xavier Xavin Howard is twenty five point

739
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: nine million dollars?

740
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Did they sign a defensive coordinator

741
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: yet they hired him? I thought they they hired I

742
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: think they did, but I can't remember off the top

743
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: of my head.

744
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: You sent me that chart today that had they didn't

745
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: trade for Weaver or sign Weaver. That was today.

746
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we were okay, So I wonder if they're

747
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: gonna raven it up. Yeah, Weaver's now there. Yeah. I

748
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: just don't know if I'm saying about Howard, how much

749
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: do they stress a man twenty six million? Yeah? Yeah,

750
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: that's the kind of guy, like he gets cut and

751
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: you give him ten or twelve Like, I don't even

752
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: know if he give him that much. With the injury

753
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: history and age and New England, even when he was

754
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: considered one of the best corners the league, I didn't

755
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: think he was one of the best corners in the league.

756
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: No, there was more reputation than anything for New England.

757
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: Has built a support system for rookie.

758
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: For a rookie quarterback, I.

759
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: Would say, just build a passing game.

760
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're basically starting from scratch.

761
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: At least they have money, But is anybody gonna want

762
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: to go there at this point?

763
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: Who knows? It can't be super attractive. I'm real curious

764
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: how their offseason goes. Like I wouldn't touch the defense

765
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: hardly at all. Like they've talked about even franchise and

766
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: Kyle Duggar, which as a safety doesn't cost you that much.

767
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a franchisable player. I mean

768
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: on the open market he'd do well, but he wouldn't

769
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: be crazy. But the right tackle, when who is I

770
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: always kill? His name is up. None of the receivers

771
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: do I care about. The running backs are fine. Yeah,

772
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have probably a third round pick quarterback.

773
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a two year job at least at

774
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: least for the Jets.

775
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: Fix the offensive line again.

776
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean they don't have a second round pick.

777
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they have a lot of money. Becton's

778
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: gonna leave, and he's been more or less a bust.

779
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: They did draft Hipman last year and he'll be in

780
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: the mix, and Via Tucker will be back. Tomlinson's a

781
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: starting guard, so they probably.

782
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: Need He's got a nineteen million dollar cap hit Tomlinson does.

783
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: That's when you go shopping on the open market on

784
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: the first day of free age guard two days and

785
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: two years later, you pay for it for a guard

786
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: who's not not like a Pro Bowl type guard even

787
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: when they signed him like he was the best guard

788
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: on the market, and sign him the second day or

789
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: first day of free agency. Like if somebody said, oh,

790
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson's making eighteen point accountant, Okay, I can buy that.

791
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: It's cool.

792
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: He's young. He might even be getting better, you know. No,

793
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: so I wonder if he gets cut.

794
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: It's potential there. Yeah, opening up polls for the.

795
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: Titans find answers on the offensive line and they don't

796
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: have they a lot of questions, not a lot of

797
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: answers other than Pete Scronsky.

798
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: Worst roster in the AFC. It's pretty good. Patriots would

799
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: give him at for the money, give him a real

800
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: good run for the money. Yeah, Patriots D is definitely

801
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: the best side of the ball of the four. But man,

802
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean they need three linemen at least and one

803
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: more receiver and their defense people think is good, but

804
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: it's okay, Yeah, I mean, who's the stars besides Simmons

805
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: and you know that.

806
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: Would be a team I would call by Chucks a corps.

807
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: For Yeah, there you go. That would be good enough

808
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: for that.

809
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a six round draft pick.

810
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: Or next year's fifth, and hope you're really bad, because yeah,

811
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 2: they're gonna be bad again.

812
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: I hope you're really bad. Yeah.

813
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

814
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: And for the Steelers, I.

815
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: Mean they need another running back, they need like everything.

816
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: Add a running mate for Joey Porter Junior.

817
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: Yes, agree, Yeah, I mean that's the one position I

818
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: would consider.

819
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: Snead. I mean, it's gonna be eighteen nineteen million, might

820
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: even be more than that. That's why I can't get

821
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: into that conversation. It'll be a bidding war for him.

822
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: And then there are corners in the draft. I mean

823
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: there's options.

824
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: But if I just in picturing, if you had a

825
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: similar level player to two Porters, basically the defense is

826
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: pretty close to complete and you could grind out a

827
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: lot seventeen point wins, you know, seventeen fourteen wins.

828
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: His two considerations veteran considerations, wild Beach, Youdobi a Woozia.

829
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: That's a good one in the dory. Jackson, I'm not

830
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: a huge autionally, I don't I don't want to Dory Jackson. Wuzya,

831
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: I want another twenty nine year old corner.

832
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the things about signing corners is

833
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to get super old again. Defense it's

834
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: already old and expensive.

835
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Like that would be a bit until last year, that

836
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: would be a very unstealer like move. Now they went

837
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: out and signed a lot of these twenty eight twenty

838
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 1: nine year olds last year.

839
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, to two year deals. Yeah, but their guards and yeah,

840
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Not different to the top

841
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: of the market corner on the free agent market, you know,

842
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: like I just pulled out and I love him and

843
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: people should watch him on Sunday.

844
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: He'll he'll be against number one receivers and tackles. He's tough.

845
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: But even him and Johnson from the Bears, the two

846
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: top corners hitting the market, they're not Dion, right, you know.

847
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: What I mean? Like now, Johnson I would be more

848
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: inclined to make a run at because he's twenty six.

849
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a cold sneed you know, I think

850
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: he's like twenty He.

851
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: Come in the year. He didn't come in as a junior.

852
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 2: He's a mid round pick. He's also played some safety

853
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: some slot.

854
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean, let me see. I mean I like both

855
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: the players.

856
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: I just don't think he might maybe he's he's no,

857
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: he's twenty seven. They're gonna be the two expensive corners.

858
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: And then it's a drop and I don't know who.

859
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: Like the third guy in the market is like a

860
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: Woozy A and those guys are what's well, we can

861
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: take a look at that and the next thing, yeah,

862
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: maybe well so maybe we'll take out and see who's

863
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: available at those positions. But that's the list on NFL

864
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: dot com of the of what teams need to do.

865
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: And I can't disagree that the Steelers do need upgrade

866
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: that second cornerback position.

867
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: It could go a long way. I mean, making that

868
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: defense pretty close to complete. I don't again, I'm not

869
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: ready to give up just quite yet or not hold

870
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: out hope that they may have something there with Darius

871
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: Rush Oh me trace me too, me too. But that's

872
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: why I wouldn't. I don't know that I in that

873
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: regard a guy like signing a guy like a Woozy

874
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: to a one year deal or a two year deal

875
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: would make some sense. Yeah, if I think that one

876
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: of those guys horror Dory Jackson. But I know what

877
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: you're saying. The ten million dollar corner on a one

878
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: year deal, that's good. Yeah he's not going to Pro Bowl.

879
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I don't know who that is this year.

880
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: I have to dig into that more.

881
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: But plus you, Jill, you know, you may be sitting

882
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: there at the twentieth pick or or you know, your

883
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: second round pick, and somebody falls into your lap, and

884
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: you're like, we get two of these guys.

885
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: No, no doubt. That's definitely a position more of the merrier.

886
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 2: I'm having a real hard problem, a real hard time

887
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: and much time ahead of us. But they're gonna have

888
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: some some money to spend. But like, I love the

889
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 2: centers in this draft. I love the tackle in this draft.

890
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: I love the wide receivers in this draft. I like the

891
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: corners in this draft. You're not gonna get all them.

892
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna get a mic.

893
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: You're not getting you know, the wet Frasier and you

894
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: know mimes, you know, and the corner that you love.

895
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: It's not gonna not gonna happen. Right, Yeah, let's get

896
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: through a break so we can look at that free

897
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: agent list here real quick.

898
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to

899
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

900
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: with more right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly.

901
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt. I'm looking here

902
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: at the list of free agent cornerbacks and it's actually

903
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: not a bad list really of guys available this year,

904
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: we mentioned a Dorri Jackson that that was I don't

905
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: love him.

906
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: He doesn't do it for me. Yeah, But Kendall Fuller's available.

907
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah, player, Yeah, he kind of

908
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: has done some slot to slot.

909
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: That would be what I would be interested in more

910
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: than a guy that can play the slot.

911
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: If you have that versatility would be great. You know,

912
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: when you're out there in space or two corners, he's

913
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: okay on the outside, but when then he immediately bumps.

914
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: In somebody that covers my butt, give me an extra okay.

915
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: Plus that opens a path for a trice or a

916
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: rush to play, you know, just to come in and

917
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: play on nickel and dime.

918
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: Right like how Porter started. Yeah this season, you know.

919
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, let's see here. You get steff On Gilmore.

920
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: He's gonna be thirty three though. Yeah, Michael Davis with

921
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: the Chargers Gilmore to be like.

922
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: A Peterson hiring. Yeah right, Yeah.

923
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: Jeff Akuda who was with Atlanta last Yeah, still twenty

924
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: five years old. He's a former first round draft thaks,

925
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: like the fourth pick of the draft. Was extremely talented.

926
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, never worked out with Detroit. They traded him for

927
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: a bag of beans just to get him off the

928
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: contract to Arthur Smith's team. Yeah, give him a one

929
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: year deal. I'm always in favor of super talented former

930
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: first round picks that maybe grew up a little bit more,

931
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: learned how to be a professional. Even know what his

932
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: issues were, But I mean I don't know what he

933
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: had cost. I mean, well, according to the spots track

934
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 2: his the market, he was four point fourteen point seven million,

935
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: eight year ten point seven, which seems a little crazy.

936
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm not in that's no.

937
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: The players they compare him to our Jay r Alexander,

938
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: Denzel Wre, Marshawn Latimore, and Carlton Davis.

939
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: He's not been that. All those guys are super high picks,

940
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: except for Davis. Yeah, just because he was super high

941
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: pick doesn't mean I mean the Lions gave him away.

942
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: He played basically six hundred snaps last year and had

943
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: forty four tackles, no interceptions.

944
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, I thought you were gonna say, like

945
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: five or six million. Yeah. I don't think he's not

946
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: going to get anything close to that. I can't imagine

947
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: getting fourteen Kenny Moore, pure slot, pure stage. He's twenty eight.

948
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: I was gonna say he's thirty. Okay, but he's logged

949
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: a lot of I mean, those those they get beat up,

950
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: they get beat up bad.

951
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: And he's not the biggest dude, but he's a good player.

952
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: He's one of the best slots in the league for

953
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: four or five years now.

954
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe that Indianapolis would let him go,

955
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: but they.

956
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: Did draft true a lot of corners, a lot of corners. Uh,

957
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: they have a projection on his They don't know some

958
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: of them they do. And something he made eight point

959
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: three last year's neighborhood two year fifteen something like that.

960
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: They could go wrong.

961
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I could. Uh Oozier he made seven point

962
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: two last year.

963
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: What's his age? He is twenty, he'll be twenty nine. Yeah,

964
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's looking for a two year deal. I

965
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: don't hate it. I certainly don't love it.

966
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't love it either. Emmanuel Moseley was just with

967
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: the he's with the Lions. Yeah.

968
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: CJ. Henderson, he's kind of the Akuda move. Yeah, well

969
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: you just take a chance. And these guys are still

970
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: twenty five and super talented. Early first round pick hasn't

971
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: really worked out.

972
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: Maybe what they were being asked to do in different defenses,

973
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

974
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: And by that logic too, like Henderson, Trice Rush, if

975
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: just one of them hits, yeah you're fine, you know.

976
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: Keishawn Nixon interesting, great returner, great returner, maybe the best.

977
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: Well he's all per returner.

978
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very much an emerging slot mostly. But I

979
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: don't say he's Devin Hester. But I mean he's like

980
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: super talented dude that's learning the positions and things. I mean,

981
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: he's best with the ball in his hands. You know,

982
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: he could give him an end around once in a while,

983
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: put him on the field. But he's probably twenty five ish,

984
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: right he is.

985
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: He'll be twenty seven this offen he came.

986
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: In the league, probably pretty old.

987
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah you know. Yeah. Maybe Rocky sin who just finished

988
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: up with the Ravens. He's been around forever. Still just

989
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: he'll be twenty eight next.

990
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: Season, plays hard, He's been on a lot of different teams.

991
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: I think he's purely an outside dude. Yeah, yeah, I

992
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: don't love that. I think I'd rather go the draft.

993
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm just looking here.

994
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: Who else were you going to do?

995
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't love the class Sean Bunting, Jack Griffin.

996
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: I mean the big two are Johnson from the Bears

997
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: and Sneed for the Chiefs. Yeah, you know, but a

998
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: lot of people will be banging on their doors.

999
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon with the Jaguars, a ton of bouts. It's

1000
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: been around for a while. Yeah, he's he'll be twenty

1001
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: eight next year.

1002
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 2: Ivan there'll be three or four that are cut too. Yeah,

1003
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: you know, Jarry Alexander is a trade consideration, but I'm

1004
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: not giving up a high pick for him with the

1005
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: contract and some other off.

1006
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: Field How about Dane Jackson? Bring Dan Jackson back to

1007
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: twenty seven.

1008
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: I'd have to study him. He has a reputation of

1009
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: not being real physical slat. You know, he's kind of

1010
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: a leaner dude. But if I'm only playing them twenty

1011
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: five snaps a game or something, spot player, it's not

1012
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: so bad.

1013
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: See this is what makes Jalen Johnson. So I think

1014
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: he's going to break the bank this year. He's not

1015
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: even twenty five yet. He came Yeah, he came in

1016
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: real young.

1017
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 2: He's really low.

1018
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: The market value on Jalen Johnson as you're looking at

1019
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: I bet fifteen point five years seventy eight million. I

1020
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: was going to guess like eighteen, like fifteen point seven

1021
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: million accord according to spot track. But I think they will.

1022
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: They'll be there's going to be a big market for him.

1023
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: I'd be in.

1024
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: I'd be very extremely interested in him, right, Yeah, I

1025
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: mean if he was three years fifty two million, yeah,

1026
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that's not really their style, but

1027
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: think about the ramifications of the rest of your offseason

1028
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: if you make that move. Yeah, Like, you still have

1029
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Trice and Rush sitting there. They may play, they may

1030
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: not let them develop. You got two shutdowns a big word,

1031
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: but you got two big time corners in their prime

1032
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: or younger. You'll find a safety, You'll find a linebacker. Yeah.

1033
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, you're drafting tackles and centers

1034
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: in a you know, receiver that you didn't quite need.

1035
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: It just has such a ripple effect. If you could

1036
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: land that day. It really does twenty teams thinking the

1037
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: same thing. Yeah, oh absolutely, Yeah. What about Christian Fulton?

1038
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: I know things didn't work out for him real well

1039
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, but again, I don't know what they're being

1040
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: asked to do. You're talking about guys a first round talent. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1041
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: he's still still just twenty five.

1042
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a real good one. I

1043
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 2: heard his name. Everyone's talking about Johnson at the trade

1044
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: deadline to those Steelers. I heard a lot of people

1045
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: throwing Fulton's name out there too. Tennessee was selling everybody.

1046
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: You know, that's not bad. Do they project his contract?

1047
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: Christian Fulton is saying the market value is or six

1048
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: point seven million a year. I mean that's kind of

1049
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: what you're three years twenty point twenty million. If it

1050
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: doesn't work out, it doesn't kill you. Yeah, Frankly, if

1051
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 2: you signed him and you can't believe Cooper des gene

1052
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: is still there in twenty take them right, you know

1053
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: what I mean? Now, that might be my favorite one

1054
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: for the Bucks so far. Yeah, I mean that's I mean,

1055
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: john of Johnson's realistic, you know.

1056
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's I think it sounds great,

1057
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: but I think there's gonna be a bidding war for him,

1058
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: and they.

1059
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: May franchise them exactly. They got Toimes of Space too.

1060
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they can afford anyone they want.

1061
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: Let's see here, you can always bring a kellow weatherspoon back.

1062
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't think that's happening.

1063
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: You mentioned Nelson too, yeah, older, But here's the market

1064
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: value on Lagarious scene. That's why I went here to

1065
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: spat track to see what that's get.

1066
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: They're saying four years, sixty five million, so sixteen point

1067
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: three a year. I thought it'd be eighteen or nineteen.

1068
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 1: The guys well, so the comparisons are Jalen Ramsey, who's

1069
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: getting eighteen point three, yeah, Carlton Davis is fourteen point

1070
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: point eight, Shavarius Ward is thirteen point five, and Jamal

1071
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: Dean is thirteen million. How are they paying Carlton Davis

1072
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: and Jamel Dean bucks? We spend a lot of moneys, right,

1073
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: But I mean I'm interested in both those guys, to

1074
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I mean, one big ticket item

1075
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 1: at corner, and I think there's only two out there,

1076
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: would really make your off season a lot easier. And

1077
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: I just see it to your point. A team like

1078
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: the Texans, right, you know, one of these teams that

1079
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: are just loaded with cap.

1080
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: Space AARs could do it. Yeah, you know, just say hey,

1081
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go do this. Oh yeah, it'd be

1082
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: hard to land. Yeah, I'm not sure the Chiefs can.

1083
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: If you're the Chiefs, would you consider franchising Snead and

1084
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: extending Jones because you can't franchise Joan. I don't know

1085
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: if he can keep them both. I think Sneed's one

1086
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Speaker 2: of the walks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of Chiefs, they have two linebackers i'd be

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Speaker 2: interested in, too, and Gay Junior. And who's the due

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Speaker 2: we mentioned before? I always forget his name for some reason.

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Speaker 2: Not Tranquil. Tranquil Tranquil and William Willie Gay Jr. Are

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Speaker 2: both free agents and they have Chanel and they have Bolton,

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Speaker 2: So I bet both those dudes walk. So those are

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Speaker 2: guys will watch on Sunday that play a lot that

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Speaker 2: would be in the Steeler rotation and run. Well yeah, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 2: let's get to another break that's going to do it

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Speaker 2: for hour number one. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lotley. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after

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Speaker 1: this