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Speaker 2: Tires spinning in Philadelphia was at yesterday as Love is

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Speaker 2: in the air, and so was Jalen Hurts with his

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Speaker 2: love Hurt shirt. As the Philadelphia Eagles, we're throwing beer

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Speaker 2: cans everywhere. Dunk Harry Roseman, dunk look out as they

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Speaker 2: celebrate their Super Bowl championship.

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Speaker 3: We were on the day before the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Has obviously been just about a week since that moment

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Speaker 2: in time and been enough time for Jalen Hurts to

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley on the offensive line of the Eagles, to

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Speaker 2: go on late night TV shows is but everywhere they

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Speaker 2: possibly could go late night TV, midday doing interviews all

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Speaker 2: over the place. Shout out to the barbers because the

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Speaker 2: lineups have been extremely crispy. But congratulations Philadelphia Eagles. Congratulations

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Speaker 2: of VJ.

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Speaker 3: Husky, who predicted a Eagles win, was.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you, thank you as always man, welcome

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports. I guess I don't know we're still football Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I know we got our theme music back, so I

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Speaker 4: do love that our theme music knocks like I mean, here,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I can spit bars even though I

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Speaker 4: have zero bars. But I was always man, I love

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Speaker 4: all the fans thinking listening to Then VJ. Brousee Big

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Speaker 4: one had the funny my man mar Weiss. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a big congratulations for the Eagles because

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Speaker 4: of what they've been through, being able to bounce back

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Speaker 4: from two years ago. Being up ten in that game

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Speaker 4: could have been a lot more other than the Nick

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Speaker 4: Bolton scoop and score the nine to h six mark

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Speaker 4: in the second quarter, the passing affaarance or defensive holding

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Speaker 4: call that kind of sets up the last field goal,

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Speaker 4: gets automatic first down, allows them to run the clock

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Speaker 4: down the two seconds to kick three seconds whatever it was,

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Speaker 4: kick the game winner to start ten and one last

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Speaker 4: year the Eagles did, and it's like okay, here they

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Speaker 4: come again. And then just the bottom fall out with

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Speaker 4: injuries and with Jalen Hurts was beat up, and aj

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Speaker 4: Brown went on this thing, and then Sirianni got into

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Speaker 3: The security guy got into some start like it just

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Speaker 4: They limp into Tampa, they get shown the door, and

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Speaker 4: then you start again this year, and then this year

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Speaker 4: you think about it. You come into this season, Detroit

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Speaker 4: is on everybody's radar, and Minnesota's on everybody's radar. The

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Speaker 4: Niners are predicted to go back. You know, Dallas. People

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Speaker 4: thought Dallas would be good this show. I don't think

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Speaker 4: people saw that. Of course, they missed Dak Prescott, their

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Speaker 4: the year. You don't predict that's gonna happen. I think

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Speaker 4: people knew Jayden Daniels would be good. I didn't think

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Speaker 4: But and then the Packers, the Packers paid Jordan Love

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Speaker 4: right like you had some things out here working and

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Speaker 4: no one was talking about feeling to be able to

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Speaker 4: overcome all of that and then just win games, not

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Speaker 4: have to do it sexy, not have to do it.

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Speaker 3: The way the media says they should do it. Score

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Speaker 4: You've had things with aj Brown reading the book Sarahani

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Speaker 3: He's clearly the best player in football this season. I

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Speaker 4: And then to be able to get to the playoffs

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Speaker 4: big thing to me was just taking down Andy Reid

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Speaker 4: Nobody else can do it. They've been beating in the

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Speaker 4: When I'm coming out of college, I called him Johnna

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: There was some stuff that happened at the rally I saw,

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Speaker 4: Jen Hurts. What there was there was a couple of shootings.

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Speaker 4: like it didn't This happened at the Chiefs Parade like

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Speaker 4: just crazy, man, because it's a happy time. People like relax.

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Speaker 4: got enough problems that are natural in life. We don't

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Speaker 3: We got enough.

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Speaker 4: But dad aside, congrats to them, man. I was really

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Speaker 4: hyped for Jalen Hurts. I really was because to me,

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Speaker 4: but to me, it just shut up a lot of stuff,

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Speaker 4: Pops when your squad went in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: So the Eagles win the Super Bowl and they went

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Speaker 2: it in convincing fashion, smacked the Chiefs B two A

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Speaker 2: you know it's funny. I hear people talk about his

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Speaker 2: Oh that was my point about one thing quickly about parades.

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Speaker 2: with it should always be it not being thrown things.

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Speaker 2: They should yah, it should always be beads. Otherwise it's

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Speaker 3: Look at stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean, sure, just what your yeah, but it is

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Speaker 4: what you stand in front of a building that's six

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Speaker 2: The question to ask, I think, in my opinion is

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Speaker 2: after watching who many people, including this show, had as

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Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the NFL, the Kansas

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Speaker 3: But to me, that's a skill, right, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: There's some luck, but it's also when you look at

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Speaker 2: win close games. You win close games due to you know,

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Speaker 3: Lucky, not twelve in a row. Right.

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Speaker 2: So, but the question I have now is after you

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Speaker 3: Like we had Tim.

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Speaker 2: Parker on here Sunday last week rather at ten thirty,

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Speaker 3: Out the Chiefs thirty four to twenty.

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Speaker 2: And we checked them, like, point, what's blowout means yeah,

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Speaker 2: exactly right, what's blowout?

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Speaker 2: But no, But again, anybody who hadded a double digit

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Speaker 3: Nobody saw the jump out that we saw to.

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Speaker 2: And so my question is to UVJ and to the

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Speaker 3: Was the AFC just overrated?

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Speaker 2: You look at you had the Lions last year despite

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Speaker 3: Now, well, I look at the AFC. I see a

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Speaker 4: The first runt of the question, No, THEFC is not overrated.

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Speaker 4: I think when you look at the NFC this year,

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Speaker 4: but I guess I got to kind of use them

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Speaker 4: in this sense. All Right, so we know how powerful

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Speaker 4: the Niners are. Correct, They've been to two Super Bowls

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Speaker 4: in the last four years, five years now that this

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Speaker 3: Would they be good next year? Probably?

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Speaker 4: But are they gonna win the Super Bowl or go back?

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Speaker 4: I just don't think so because now things are starting

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Speaker 4: it's a tough sled. It just it's hard to do.

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Speaker 4: So these teams weren't overrated. The Ravens were still a

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Speaker 3: That means you're an MVP type quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well there last year that he was not, and this

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Speaker 2: Know that in this season it was Sakwon Barkley finished

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Speaker 4: So the v I'm just okay, Well, if you want to,

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Speaker 2: Because he's never received an MVP vote, Okay, in the

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Speaker 4: And Russell Wilson have years where he wasn't He never

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Speaker 4: They blew out the Chiefs, blew out the Commanders who

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Speaker 3: Of the season.

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Speaker 2: Well, I also think if it wasn't snow and the

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Speaker 3: I do this every year. We do it every year.

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Speaker 2: What am I going to learn from last year as

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Speaker 3: You can't get caught up and just the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I was not surprised that Philly physically could hang up

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Speaker 2: Let's take a second here and dive in back to

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Speaker 3: I have two questions. Which quarterback would you care to

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Speaker 4: He is still the greatest quarterback on Earth. He still

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Speaker 4: They still have one of the top two teams on Earth,

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Speaker 4: one of the best home field advantages on Earth. Nothing

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Speaker 4: changed my mind other than now it gets really dicey

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Speaker 4: as far as wanting him to be the goat.

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Speaker 3: With Brady Brad. He's got two losses. Okay, we know that,

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Speaker 3: seven to two. Excuse me three.

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Speaker 2: We're going to dive into that conversation in depth in

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Speaker 2: an hour and a half, so we'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: more in depth at the top of the eight o'clock.

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Speaker 4: It did not change my reception of him as a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: In what he's done in the league. I've heard some things.

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Speaker 4: I think that's kind of silly.

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Speaker 3: You know. Oh he's not all of that. No, dude,

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Speaker 3: you know it happens.

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Speaker 4: Man, it's our John Elway got his ass handed to

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Speaker 4: him three times, and that doesn't take away from the

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Speaker 4: greatness of John Elway. He's still a top maybe five

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Speaker 4: or six, and my book quarterback of all time. It's

456
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Speaker 4: hard to do to win these games called the super

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Speaker 4: Bowl and you're going for your third in a row.

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Speaker 4: You're deep into the season every year, you train like

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Speaker 4: a maniac, and man.

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Speaker 3: It just catches up to you.

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Speaker 4: And you got a younger team with you know, with

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Speaker 4: more like they're playing with the house money right there.

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Speaker 4: They can't lose but lose, right, I mean, it just

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Speaker 4: is what this or No, it ain't change my opinion

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Speaker 4: about him at all. I still think he's the greatest

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Speaker 4: quarterback on the planet. He's the diet and he still

467
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Speaker 4: has his own tier. He doesn't come down to everybody else.

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Speaker 3: His tier is.

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Speaker 4: Still him and then everybody else because they're going to

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Speaker 4: bounce back. They're gonna be in the AFC Championship Game again,

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Speaker 4: and they might be in the super Bowl again, so

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Speaker 4: everybody reserve one.

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Speaker 3: It know, it didn't change anything how I currently look

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Speaker 3: at him. I think people and I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's a day after the Super Bowl, and I think

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Speaker 2: that we all collectively as an NFL media were a

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Speaker 2: little were shocked. Not because the Chiefs lost. I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people could have seen and predicted the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs loss, but because Patrick Mahomes played his worst game

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Speaker 2: we have seen him play since he has been a

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Speaker 2: starter in the NFL from start to finish.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't shocked that. I'm not trying to be different.

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Speaker 4: I'm not because no, well, I'm not trying to be different.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't shocked because it happens. Lebron had a horrible finals.

485
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Speaker 4: Kobe didn't play a great final. So you you were

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Speaker 4: you weren't shocked to watch him play. No, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: shocking to me.

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Speaker 3: It just wasn't.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. If you got something to say,

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Speaker 4: say it on air. Don't hit the button and say

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Speaker 4: to him. I'm telling you how I feel. Well, I'm

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Speaker 4: shut up a topic, and the point of the matter is,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. If you weren't surprised to watch worst game

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Speaker 4: in NFL is in his history in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 4: Well, you don't know what to tell me, because because

497
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Speaker 4: it happens, every great player they're gonna have, there have

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Speaker 4: been expected Mahomes to play poorly.

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Speaker 3: Say it expected, then you either you were surprised or

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Speaker 3: you expected it.

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't go that way. Stop it, bro Stop

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Speaker 4: it it's either expected or you were surprised. No, you're

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Speaker 4: not gonna tell me whether I expected or surprised.

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Speaker 6: I did.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised by it. Did I expect it? No,

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Speaker 4: but it didn't surprise me.

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Speaker 3: Would you use two things? What happened?

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Speaker 4: Because we are deep in the I just like I said,

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Speaker 4: I that great players have bad days? What were just

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Speaker 4: give it to me that said you want to already

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Speaker 4: tried to give the word.

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Speaker 3: What that's problem? Pick another one, pick another one?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm surprised, just like a lot of

514
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Speaker 2: other people were surprised that Patrick Mahomes would play.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't dog. That's just what are you? Then like

516
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Speaker 4: almost like, well, you know bad great players have bad days.

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Speaker 3: It happens. You know, let's go ahead. Kick it over

518
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Speaker 3: to Steve to say happen.

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Speaker 2: Because we are having trouble with definitions words, you're trying

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Speaker 2: to tell me how to help please that's the problem.

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Speaker 7: Having a problem with the definition of game in hockey.

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Speaker 7: With the US at Canada tonight, they've played about nine

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Speaker 7: minutes of this game and nine seconds have come off

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Speaker 7: the clock because of three fights to start this one.

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Speaker 7: This is Hockey's Four Nations faceoff tournament in Montreal tonight.

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Speaker 7: Earlier Today, Finland defeated Sweden in overtime four to three. Monday,

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Speaker 7: things will move to Boston. Canada will play Finland during

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Speaker 7: the day Monday, and then Monday night, the US will

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Speaker 7: be hosting Sweden. Each team plays three tournament games, round

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Speaker 7: robin format. Thursday night is the championship game. The NHL

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Speaker 7: is off for almost two weeks until next Saturday. No

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Speaker 7: NHL All Star Game this year. This instead, of course,

533
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Speaker 7: the NBA All Star Game is this weekend in San Francisco.

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Speaker 7: It's Tomorrow Night. It's now a four team mini tournament.

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Speaker 7: Each team will have eight players, and the winning team

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Speaker 7: in Friday's Rising Stars will be one of those competing

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Speaker 7: on Sunday. Team Chris Mullen in the Bay Area, it's

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Speaker 7: All Star Saturday Night, which means we're starting with the

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Speaker 7: Skills Challenge. After this, the three point Contest, and then

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Speaker 7: the Slam Dunk Contest. The college basketball Number one Auburn

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Speaker 7: a winner at number two ranked Alabama ninety four eighty

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Speaker 7: five Bama from three point range five for twenty six,

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Speaker 7: including Mark Sears two for eleven. Number three Florida about

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Speaker 7: to get going at home against South Carolina. Duke tied

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Speaker 7: for third in the polls this week. Beat Stanford oneh

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Speaker 7: six to seventy. Fifth ranked Tennessee came back to defeat

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Speaker 7: Vanderbilt eighty one seventy six. Vallts trailed by sixteen just

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Speaker 7: before halftime. Tennessee was just seven and five in conference.

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Speaker 7: Six thranked Houston a winner at number thirteen Arizona sixty

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Speaker 7: two to fifty eight. Houston is thirteen and one in

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Speaker 7: the Big Twelve Conference with a two game lead now.

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Speaker 7: The Badgers of Wisconsin scored fifty eight points in the

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Speaker 7: second half wound up winning at number seven per Due

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Speaker 7: ninety four eighty four. Wisconsin rank sixteenth this week. Victory's

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Speaker 7: in the top ten for Texas, A and M and

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Speaker 7: Iowa State as well. A reminder, Sunday's Daytona five hundred

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Speaker 7: TV coverage will start an hour early due to the

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Speaker 7: weather forecast. The race is due to begin at two

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Speaker 7: pm Eastern Time on Fox TV, but rain is due

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Speaker 7: at dayton On it right around then, and it'll be

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Speaker 7: Wendy there. Chase Briscoe will start from the pole position.

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Speaker 7: Current forecast it's not going to be raining all night,

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Speaker 7: but there's no way they're going to go start to

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Speaker 7: finish without a rain delay. The way things are looking now,

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Speaker 7: this event starts NASCAR's regular season for the Cup Series.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks Steve, Martin and J.

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Speaker 2: Coming to you live from the Tire IRAQ dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: If you want to join the conversation, feel free to

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Speaker 2: hit us up on Twitter. I'm at Martin White's VJ

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Speaker 2: at Big Vanilla Funny. We'll get to your tweets throughout

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Speaker 2: the show. So we had a Hall of Fame quarterback,

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Speaker 2: a future first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback with something

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Speaker 2: incredibly in common with Motown. Aaron Rodgers apparently ain't too

574
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Speaker 2: proud to be, because it was reported by The New

575
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Speaker 2: York Post that Aaron Rodgers flew back to New Jersey,

576
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Speaker 2: where the New York Jets play, and said, you know what, guys,

577
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Speaker 2: I please please do not let me go. Please, I

578
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Speaker 2: want to stay here. Give me one more year, maybe two.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn said, you know what, buddy, Aaron Glenn, and

580
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Speaker 2: the new GM of the team said, you know what, hey,

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna do Pat McAfee, You're gonna be a

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Speaker 2: training camp.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna do this, You're gonna do that. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: do this, You're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: That, And apparently at some point throughout that conversation which

586
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Speaker 2: decided that they were not going to continue their business relationship.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn coming as a new head coach VJ. What

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Speaker 2: do you think of the decision for the New York

589
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Speaker 2: Jets to go ahead and move on from Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a smart dale man. I think they

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Speaker 4: have to break this whole thing down. It's what I've

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Speaker 4: been saying that Ian, you know, you and I've talked

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Speaker 4: about this, man. I think they honestly they everyone's on.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's up right. I'm calling around, Hey, what do you

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Speaker 4: want for? Garrett Wilson?

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Speaker 3: What do you want for?

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Speaker 4: I mean, reset it, because you got to start with

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Speaker 4: a quarterback, right, and I know people will Garrett Wilson, Hey, man,

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Speaker 4: if somebody want them, and they's gonna give you a

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Speaker 4: first form and you can build some picks off of

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Speaker 4: this and build your franchise back up. Everybody to me

602
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Speaker 4: in the Jets unif saws all of them, everybody's up

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Speaker 4: and air.

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Speaker 3: You can see he coming.

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Speaker 4: I think there's stories right that they're gonna move on

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Speaker 4: from Devonte, right, Is that true? He and I thought

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Speaker 4: I thought I saw something come across the bottom of

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Speaker 4: the screen.

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Speaker 3: ESPN. I was watching the basketball game one night. If

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Speaker 3: Aaron's gone, I think Devanta the right. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: just reset this thing, man and listen. Coach Glinn he

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Speaker 3: needs he needs a fresh palette.

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Speaker 4: Right when you're painting or you're doing something, you're taking

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Speaker 4: guitar lessons. Right you're you're starting fresh. You need a

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Speaker 4: new guitar. You don't need nothing used and all beat

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Speaker 4: up in the strings. You gotta replace. No, it's like golf.

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Speaker 4: People say, when you start playing golf, get a U set.

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Speaker 4: Why I want the grips to be you know, nice.

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Speaker 4: I'll get a starter set for two hundred bucks out

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Speaker 4: of costco I can't buy a title list and tailor made,

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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna get a new set. I think Coach

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Speaker 4: Glenn needs a new palette to paint with. He needs

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Speaker 4: a new set. And I just thought it was a

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Speaker 4: smart MOE. And I think I think Aaron. I think

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Speaker 4: Aaron might want to I think Aaron might want to move.

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Speaker 4: It's the two years, guys. Just wasn't it just wasn't good.

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Speaker 4: He threw for four thousand yards this year, but they

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Speaker 4: didn't win a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean he too.

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Speaker 2: He's coming off what he's forty one at the start

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Speaker 2: of the year. Last year, I had an achilles and

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Speaker 2: I get he got to rehab the entire forty got

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Speaker 2: to rehab the entirety of last year. But he'll get

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Speaker 2: to rehab. It's not something that is, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: like getting to go to the DMV. It's the more

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Speaker 2: something you have to do, and you need to be

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Speaker 2: able to stay active and relevant. And he did suffer

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Speaker 2: a hamstring injury and I want to say it was

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Speaker 2: an MCL in the same leg last year.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be hard for anybody to deal with.

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Speaker 2: That being said, Shannon Sharp said this a million times

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Speaker 2: when I used to work with him. He still does it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure now today I catch less of this stuff,

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Speaker 2: but he used to have a great line, and I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna completely steal.

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Speaker 3: It from him.

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Speaker 2: It's like, your tolerance is a function of your production,

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Speaker 2: and the higher your production is, the more they will tolerate.

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Speaker 3: If Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Came out here and was a undisputed, no pun intended,

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Speaker 2: top five quarterback in the NFL, justs what they'd be

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Speaker 2: like Hey, you know what, could you just move the

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Speaker 2: McAfee to nine forty instead of ten forty? You know,

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Speaker 2: could you think, if you want to go, do whatever

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Speaker 2: you want, but could you just look, we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: training camp from here.

657
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn says, I don't want none of that. BS.

658
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: I am establishing a new regime. It is a new

659
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: jet order across Flooring Park. And I think that ultimately,

660
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: like it is not because of Aaron Rodgers' play that

661
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: he is no longer a New York Jet. It is

662
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: because of Aaron Rodgers' personality that he is no longer

663
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: a New York Jet. His play is definitely good enough

664
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: to withstand or to stay here, but his personality as such,

665
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: you've got to get the hell on you ain't your mama?

666
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? I would.

667
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: I mean his play, like I said, the numbers are there,

668
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: but there are times he's off. There were times he's

669
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: off one throws and stuff. I just think that if

670
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 4: you had a younger quarterback. I don't know if a

671
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 4: rookie could come in and do this, but I mean,

672
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 4: what could Kayla Williams do what Aaron Rodgers did for

673
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 4: the Jets this year?

674
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 6: Right?

675
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: Could it be similar yardage or numbers or what have you.

676
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 4: I know Kayla was close like four thousand, thirty seven

677
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: or thirty hundred something like that. His play to me,

678
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 4: just it just kind of fit where he is right now.

679
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 4: And I know his name is being going around with

680
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 4: some other teams. But I'll just just hang my hat on.

681
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 4: If I'm Aaron Glenn, this is my opportunity. And I'm

682
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: a black head coach in this league, It's not a

683
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 4: lot of opportunities.

684
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: To come around.

685
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 4: I got one. I need a fresh start. Woody, Woody

686
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: Johnson's gotten there right now. I need a fresh start, Woody, Sir,

687
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: Can I just I'll take the job, But can I

688
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 4: get a fresh start?

689
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: Just and let me? Hey, I played here.

690
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 4: I was the quarterback that got beat by mark Ingram

691
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: with the Dan Marino fake spike with Boomer size that

692
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 4: I look, I'm in here, man. Can I get a

693
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 4: fresh start? And I just think that was the movie.

694
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: I think wherever Aaron Rodgers go, I think we'll see

695
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: the same play right that we saw this year, not

696
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: unless he like what goes to it gets Jamar chasing

697
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 4: and Justin Jefferson on his team.

698
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: But that's not gonna happen. I think his play was

699
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: it was cool.

700
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: I think they could have still kind of let him

701
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 4: go and think let's start over, maybe get.

702
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

703
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: His play wasn't so bad. No, no, no, so bad.

704
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: It wasn't so bad.

705
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: It was good enough where you know they still have

706
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: him under contract. There's good enough to where you're not

707
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: necessarily looking to replace him, you know, just off like.

708
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: Like the year before Aaron Rodgers got there, it.

709
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Was like, we are gonna literally be quarterbacked by anybody

710
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: but Zack Wilson. We would rather have Brick Brick Johnson,

711
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: the son's owner, play the owner's son play quarterback over

712
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson.

713
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: It's sure enough.

714
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: Four snaps later, he hands up right there after Aaron

715
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: Rodgers snaps his achilles. But I don't think it's crazy

716
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: to me to see, And we talked about it a

717
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: little bit in Week seventeen or eight at Week eighteen.

718
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: I think it is more likely than not that we have.

719
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: Seen Aaron Rodgers play his last NFL game. Oh, I

720
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: think it's more likely than that we've seen Aaron Rodgers

721
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: play his last NFL game, because here's the rough. Okay,

722
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: you got all the different teams looking for starters, and

723
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: we'll dive into that in a little bit, but tennessee

724
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: something like that, like all these teams looking for starters,

725
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: none of them are legitimate contenders right next year. I

726
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: think maybe San Francisco's on his list. That's if they

727
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: don't want to move with perty. None of these guys

728
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: are legitimate contenders right here, right now if you're Aaron Rodgers,

729
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: So why would you?

730
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: Again?

731
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: The report is he begged to stay in the Jets,

732
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: right He begged to stay with the Jets, because if

733
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: you look at the Raiders situation or the Titan situation

734
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: or another team that's in this and he needs a

735
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: quarterback desperately, there is no good situation better than what

736
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: you've got.

737
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: Right now with you, buddy, buddy Devonte Adams.

738
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: Right, So I don't expect Aaron Rodgers to go into

739
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: an Indianapolis, for example, and compete with Anthony Richardson.

740
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: Don't see that happening.

741
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 8: Well, it's also about how he finished, like how he

742
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 8: closed the year. He threw for two seventy four and

743
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 8: three touchdowns actually might have been four, I think four touchdowns,

744
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 8: and he threw his five hundred career touchdown to Devonte Adams.

745
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: Do you guys mind if I just throw a few

746
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 4: teams out there in a few scenarios. Okay, so we've

747
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: heard this Pittsburgh thing, correct, I think that's real. What

748
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: if Arizona thinks to do a move this year with

749
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: moving on from Kyle because of the money, right and

750
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: gonna get a veteran stuff? Just just spitballing at the

751
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: Tennessee has a high pick Jacksonville if Trevor gets moved, right,

752
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: if there's something there, I know Pittsburgh name has been

753
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: in that also, could could that be a landing spot

754
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: for I just I think he'll play if he wants

755
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: to play. But I think his ego if it's not

756
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 4: like a contending or big market or a hey look

757
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: at me, we got Aaron Rodgers all attention on me

758
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: because we know he's a narcissist, right, So if.

759
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: It's not that, then yes, he's done.

760
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: But if he can go somewhere and be the show

761
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: and be the media and be beat him like, be

762
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: all attention, Hey look at me, Look what I got?

763
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: And I think there's there's always an owner that feels

764
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: like I can do something with this guy. It's all

765
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: about money, right. If you signed Aaron Rodgers're gonna sell

766
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 4: a lot of jerseys, You're gonna sell a lot of tickets,

767
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 4: regardless of what team it is. I don't know if

768
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: that's true anymore. I think two years ago that definitely

769
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: was true.

770
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: But now after after a achilles snap season one, after

771
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: five snaps, and then the the all of it, the Ayahuasca,

772
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: the dolphins mating, sound sex as he's preparing his Achilles tendon,

773
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: the buddy buddy with Davonte, just all of it, of

774
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: do we see them the last what is it thirty

775
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: four games that Aaron Rodgers has been in New York Jet,

776
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: Like I think if you still walking off from Green

777
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: Bay where he's you know, this time before he was

778
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: a Jet he went two of the last three MVPs

779
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: and was had broken his thumb that year prior. I

780
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: don't know if it's true that he's.

781
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: Like gonna be in high demand New Orleans Saints Goodness gracious,

782
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 4: I mean, because right, just I think Derek Carr's done right,

783
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: and if you have a chance to get him in

784
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: a city like New Orleans five and twelve, looking to

785
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: the new head coach, right, looking for a spark. Yeah,

786
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: I got you got Spence. We like him, but Aaron's

787
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: the the vet, Aarons the you know, he's done it.

788
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: There's just always a coach, a GM and a owner

789
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 4: guys that look so some of these older guys and go.

790
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: We just saw two years ago with Aaron Rodgers, right,

791
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: people were really like, dude, are you crazy? But they said, no,

792
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: we're getting this guy. We're doing We're doing Brett Farv again.

793
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 8: Well, if you really, if you really want to do

794
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 8: a time as a flat circle thing, then then he'll

795
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 8: end up on the Vikings because he's following right far right.

796
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: The JJ has a setback. Darnold signed somewhere else. JJ

797
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: has a setback.

798
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: Wow, Ian, you know what Ian, if that cash is in, man,

799
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: I'll tell I'll take.

800
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: You to Disney spooky. Oh, I'll take you up on that.

801
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: You and your lady.

802
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 4: I will take you and your lady for your charge.

803
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: If that cash is in, I will take you and

804
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: your lady to Disney lay fund. Right.

805
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 8: But you know what, you know, I like the rams

806
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 8: if they move on from these staff, I've heard that.

807
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: I've heard an interesting one with McVeigh Rodgers. Okay, So

808
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: all of these teams, we just lifted all of them.

809
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Which one of them would you deem to be a

810
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: quarterback away from major contention?

811
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: Because I think.

812
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: That's Stafford played well this year, like to be a

813
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: quarterback away from contention?

814
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: Still say Rams.

815
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: They had a lot of injuries early and when they

816
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: started getting guys back, it started turning. It started turning

817
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: for them right in front of us, right before eyes.

818
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: They had a lot of guys out to start the year.

819
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 4: And as the season went on, they started getting guys back.

820
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 4: That defense with verse who wins Defensive Rookie of the Year,

821
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: They they got some They got some dogs. They got

822
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: some dogs on that side of about some young some

823
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: young boys Kyle Williams at the running back position. No,

824
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 4: I think, if you know, I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers

825
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: is the guy, but a quarterback away I think like

826
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 4: elevated over Stafford.

827
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

828
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: I think the question would have to ask, is he

829
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: better than Stafford right now? But what answered that question?

830
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: To me?

831
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 8: It's the Vikings because they just made it. They just

832
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 8: had the season they had with Darnal or Darneld. Wow,

833
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers in there, Yeah.

834
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 4: I know, I mean it sold Aaron Rodgers that played

835
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 4: like he played for the Jests this year. Just that

836
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 4: identical guy, not old Aaron Rodgers, not discout double check

837
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.

838
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: Now, I think he's better than Sam Darn Okay, I'm

839
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: I'm just asking.

840
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: He's not talking State Farm spokesman. Aaron Rodgers were talking

841
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: potential vice president. Not many Aaron Rodgers too. Very different,

842
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: two different guys.

843
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: But the question with the Rams, I like that, but man,

844
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: I'd have to say, no, I don't think he's better

845
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: than Stafford now, so that that wouldn't elevate them. So,

846
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think he's the guy to go there,

847
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: but I do think they are a quarterback away from

848
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: the end.

849
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: Continue.

850
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes in sports, you know the phrase the calls coming

851
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: from inside the house. It really truly rings true. The

852
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: call is coming from inside one San Francisco's athletes. It's

853
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: his phone ringing as he comments on what's going on

854
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: in his league. That plus vj's Power five NBA Teams

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856
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857
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860
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, so let's go through the last few weeks.

861
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: I had some teams up into the Power five that

862
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: I really like, but they've.

863
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: Taken a fall. Number one Houston is not going to

864
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 3: be in it this week. Guys.

865
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: Sorry, little Chewy raconaut in Houston. We love you home

866
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 4: yard know this, but defense is starting to kind of

867
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 4: wear down. That road trip was really heavy on them,

868
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 4: and then they gave up a home loss to the

869
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 4: Golden State Wards who were twenty eight twenty seven, so

870
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: I moved them out. So in replace for them, give

871
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: me the champions from two years ago to different Nuggets.

872
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: They got an a gay win streak right now.

873
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: They kind of remind me of a team that just

874
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: needs a little time to get going. They know what

875
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 4: this ride is like. They know it is a marathon

876
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 4: and not a sprint. You still have, in my opion

877
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: a top three player in the league. I'm not sure

878
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 4: what's up with Jamal Murray. I'm not sure if the

879
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 4: lower league extremity injuries have really affected his explosiveness, but

880
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: he does seem to be kind of fine in his

881
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 4: lays again. But as long as you got the joker Man,

882
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: you got a chance, just like in Batman.

883
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 3: All right, number four, give me the mephis Grizzlies.

884
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: I love this team, and this is a forgotten team

885
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: because of all the stuff y'all went through over the

886
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: last eighteen months. We forgot how good this team was.

887
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: And then think about the people they've moved on from,

888
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 4: they've moved off from, and what we thought were like

889
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: the heart and soul of his team. Dylan Brooks is

890
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: doing just fine in Houston, but they moved on from him.

891
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: You draft the guy like Edie a two time back

892
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: to back.

893
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 4: The only person ever do that National Player of the

894
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: Year in college basketball, the only person ever do that

895
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 4: and history is Bill Walton. And this guy is a

896
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 4: defensive star wars. He protects the rim. My only concern

897
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: about this team is, yeah, misses too many games with

898
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: what I call nagging injuries.

899
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: Nagging injuries is water stretching.

900
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: Stop eating sugar, Stop eating fried food, Stop staying up late,

901
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 4: stop drinking a lot of liquor.

902
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: When you're young.

903
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: I know you think you're young and you're invincible, Jah,

904
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: but I've always supported you and defended you.

905
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: Homeboy.

906
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: Don't make me look stupid. Y'all know I don't like

907
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 4: when athletes make me look stupid. I got them at

908
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: number four. Number three, they're coasting, the defending champions, the

909
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 4: Boston Celtics. They're coasting. They got two of the best

910
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 4: players in basketball. They got one of the best young

911
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 4: coaches in basketball. Once again, a team that knows what

912
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 4: this journey is like. There are in no rush to

913
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: get there because they know when it comes down to it.

914
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: I think they're coming out of the East if they

915
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: if it's not gonna be one of the other two teams,

916
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: are gonna mention it'll be them. But in any playoff serious,

917
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: I'll take this team in May because once again, they've

918
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: done it before, right Like, I'm gonna trust the guy

919
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: that's getting married for the second or third time over

920
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: a guy that did the first time first time. Hey, man,

921
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: you don't know what's coming. At least the second time,

922
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: you should know your mistakes. And by the third wife

923
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 4: our husband, you should definitely know the stakes. You should

924
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: have a good marriage. Since then, Number two, give me

925
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 4: the OKC thunder Listen man, Sga, I'm trying to find

926
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 4: a reason. Now this is gonna sound funny. I'm trying

927
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: to find a reason not to like him as much

928
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: as everybody else. But I can't because I watch his

929
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 4: game and I guess it looks so easy to him, and.

930
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: It's like, is the league just soft now? Or is

931
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: there no defense?

932
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: And then you watch about three or four straight Oklahoma

933
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: City Thunder games, You're like, you know what, it's.

934
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: Kids, legit, Like this kid is a bucket. I know.

935
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: People hate they say foul hunts, guys. NBA player has

936
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: been foul hunting since it foul hunting was a thing.

937
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: It's nothing new, guys. People hate it. When James Harden

938
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 4: did it. People hate it when they used to say

939
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: Shacky's to doing he was younger, and Orlando leaning in

940
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: the guys, lunging in the guys and stuff. Listen, if

941
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: you get the call, you get the call. If the

942
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: rest are going to call it, the rest gonna call it.

943
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: They did get Check hung him back, Sorry check Kaway

944
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: and Edwards, boy, that's you the other night. Goodness, gracious boy, listen, man,

945
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: get up off your feet or just get out of

946
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: the way, but you get him back. They got some

947
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: other really good pieces of their young team. I just

948
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: don't know yet. You guys don't know how I am

949
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: about young teams. I don't know if they can win

950
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 4: it all, but I do think they can be a

951
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: factor down the stretch. And then my number one team's

952
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 4: remember the number one team the last three weeks in

953
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: a row. I'm gonna stay with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Donovan Mitchell,

954
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: I'm trying to give him a comparable Now I'm a

955
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: give one. Don't don't don't blast me, guys, but just

956
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 4: just film me, let me cook. He reminds me of

957
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 4: Dwayne Wade before Shaq had gotten there. And now, remember

958
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: the way coming to the league, it was pretty good,

959
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: but that second year he just exploded. I know, Donavin

960
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: Mitchell's been in the league for a while, but you

961
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: guys always know what to say about pro athletes. Everybody

962
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: can't come in the league and explode right away and

963
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: have it consistent. Some guys have these flashes and they

964
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 4: go down a little bit. We talk about the sophomore

965
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: slump in college NFL football with quarterbacks. I just think

966
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: he's hit that stride now where he can get to

967
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: anywhere on the floor.

968
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: He's a leader.

969
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 4: He's take care of himself like he's doing it the

970
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: right way and the way it should be done. They

971
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 4: play defense, they rebound the ball down Allen like this.

972
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 4: This team's legit. I love what they're doing and they're

973
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna win the East. That's my top five.

974
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll dive in Mahomes still worthy of

975
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: being in the Goat Conversation.

976
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: We'll see Martin Weis Vida Husky. Fox Sports Saturday's.

977
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983
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984
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Speaker 2: Just watch Cam Johnson finish his first round of the

985
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: three point contest saw the Rising Stars Challenge see Victor

986
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: Winbinyama ejected, Chris Paul ejected.

987
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: Team Spurs was disqualified. Are you what are you? What

988
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: are you laughing about?

989
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 8: What's because Mary was showing me the video, I don't

990
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 8: understand what I'm looking at.

991
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: They try to hack the system. Yes, they tried to

992
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: hack the system. So you have to shoot right.

993
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: It requires three shots or whatever you have to like,

994
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: you get three minimum shots and if you miss them,

995
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: then you keep going right. So instead of trying to

996
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: make the shots, what the Spurs players did. They just

997
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: threw the balls as fast as they could to then

998
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: advance to the next spot, as opposed to actually trying

999
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: to attempt the shot.

1000
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: Now, I think smarter not harder, or work smarter not harder.

1001
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: Here's my beef, victim woman, y'am.

1002
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: The last year was talking about Anthony Edwards didn't take

1003
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: all this stuff seriously and used it as a level

1004
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: of like, oh, look the Americans, they're not serious about basketball,

1005
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden we got this.

1006
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1007
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 5: It's called assimilating America, he said, even blending in that's

1008
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: pretty good.

1009
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: That was good, all right.

1010
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: So going back to the Super Bowl to fallout from

1011
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: that conversation, uh, I seem to think that everybody watched

1012
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: that Super Bowl LIX and just completely used it to

1013
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: completely ignore the last like six years of football that

1014
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: we've been watching. Now they say, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady,

1015
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: I think right now.

1016
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. Different people feel different ways.

1017
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: If you have a top three list and Tom Brady

1018
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: is not in the top three of that list, I.

1019
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: Will say your list is incorrect.

1020
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: Most people, I think have Tom Brady as number one

1021
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: on that list. The reason why Patrick Mahomes felt like

1022
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: he was knocking on that door he had the opportunity

1023
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: to do something that Tom Brady had never done, which

1024
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: is a three peat. Now we are now at twenty

1025
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: nine years old, saying we do not think that Patrick

1026
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: Mahomes will get a three peat seeing as it's never

1027
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: been done before an NFL history. This was likely his

1028
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: best shot to do it, So he's not going to

1029
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: ever get that accolade on Brady. So with that, at

1030
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: twenty nine years old, seven year years into his starting career,

1031
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: can Patrick Mahomes ever catch Brady?

1032
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 3: Catch him? Hum, there's a path.

1033
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 4: Brady's seven and three, okay, so he's been to ten,

1034
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: Pats three and two, he's been to five, all right,

1035
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: so he's he doesn't have to get to ten, but

1036
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: I do. I would like to see six at least

1037
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: to make it other conversation just with me, winning just

1038
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: has to still matter at the end of the day.

1039
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: Who's holding the trophy at the end of the year matters.

1040
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 4: It just still has to. And I know we've taken

1041
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: every twisting turn we can in sports talk, TV and

1042
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 4: radio to make it not that. But he's got a

1043
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: shot at catching them. But some things got to change.

1044
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: And remember Brady went on a little break from getting

1045
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: to a super Bowl himself and winning one. Right, he'd

1046
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: won the quick three out of four, and then it

1047
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: got dropped for him in and then they grabbed a

1048
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 4: couple more did it got draw for a really long

1049
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: time before he got to Tampa, won the last one

1050
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 4: and for the Patriots, and then gets to Tampa to

1051
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: get the seventh one. So even if he goes on

1052
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: a little to drop right here, he's not quite thirty

1053
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 4: just yet, so he's got some time before he gets

1054
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: to the thirty year of Mark.

1055
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: Could he catch him? Yes? Do I think he will

1056
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 3: catch him?

1057
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: No, because I still expect I think Alan, Lamar, Herbert

1058
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: and Burrow to still matter in the AFC moving forward.

1059
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 4: They're all younger, They're gonna fix I'm pretty sure they'll

1060
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 4: fix their teams. Kansas City's gonna lose some people this year,

1061
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: Like his best pass catcher could be gone in Travis Kelse,

1062
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 4: he could retire. You got to replace that next year.

1063
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: I know they have Xavier and Worthy who went for

1064
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: overall buck fifty in the Super Bowl two touchdown catches.

1065
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: Don't forget where she rice? Yeah yeah ra sheee wise.

1066
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 3: Can he catch him? Yeah?

1067
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 4: He could, Yeah he could. He's young enough he still

1068
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 4: could catch him. And then also too, how long is

1069
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: Andy Reid gonna be around? I think that's a factor too.

1070
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 4: Do I think he can?

1071
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: Yes? Do I predict and think he will?

1072
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: No, I'd say I think he definitely has a possibility to.

1073
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: If I had to set the line, I would say, yes,

1074
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes catches Brady at like a slight a slight

1075
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: underdog maybe plus two hundred, and I would be hammering

1076
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: the plus two hundred, right, I think. Just to be clear,

1077
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: I do think he has a great shot to happen.

1078
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: I think that if you were setting the line, setting

1079
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: the odds, know would have.

1080
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: To be a slight favorite.

1081
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: So so I don't think that's a crazy You don't

1082
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: think that's the right opinion because who else does stuff

1083
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: like that?

1084
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, it's to kind of predict.

1085
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: It is almost going out on the limbs saying it's

1086
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: impossible to predict because we haven't seen that level of

1087
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: success prior to and really we haven't seen the level

1088
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: of success that Mahomes has had in this stretch prior

1089
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: to seeing Mahomes do it. The thing that I have

1090
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: is people who are going out and having the like,

1091
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: I not get it. You want to have a strong opinion,

1092
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: especially the day after the biggest football game of the year.

1093
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: But the idea that.

1094
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is somehow knocked down a peg from where

1095
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: he's at because of this Super Bowl appearance and terrible

1096
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: Super Bowl appearance, which is by far the worst game

1097
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: we've seen him play. But the idea that his two

1098
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: worst games came in the Super Bowl and the third

1099
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: was the AFC Championship game, to me is a testament

1100
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: of the dominance we have seen from this guy. Like

1101
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: you name me your favorite quarterback, Tom Brady included, and

1102
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: I'll name you a worst playoff loss that they had

1103
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes hasn't even sniffed.

1104
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 8: But let me post it to you like this, Martin,

1105
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 8: because if because we're measuring Brady again, I mean we're

1106
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 8: measuring Mahomes against Brady right.

1107
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: Part of the reason why is because he's so far

1108
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: past everybody else. It's not a fair competition to the

1109
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: Lamars and Josh Allenson's war.

1110
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 8: I mean things like Brady never got blown out in

1111
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 8: a Super Bowl. It's like, how much is that gonna

1112
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 8: gonna matter to you when you're weighing these guys at

1113
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 8: the end of their career, who's the goat?

1114
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: Well, Holmes just got absolutely shmacked.

1115
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: To be clear, Mahomes still has more winning to do

1116
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: along the way to be considered.

1117
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: I will say this.

1118
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: If he continues on the path that he is on,

1119
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: Let's say he slows down and only he's three and

1120
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: two in super Bowls. Let's say he goes two and

1121
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: two over the remainder of his career, so he'd be

1122
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: five and four in Super Bowls. But he remains at

1123
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: the pace of I am in the AFC Championship Game

1124
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: every single year, Like I'm not knocking guys because they

1125
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: didn't lose in Round one, or they didn't lose in

1126
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: the Conference champions or they didn't lose in the divisional round.

1127
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: Like that stress you're talking about with Tom Brady is

1128
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: because he didn't get to the super Bowl. Mahomes has

1129
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: done that once as a starter, where he did not

1130
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: get to the super Bowl. That's I mean, you win

1131
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,479
Speaker 2: the conference with five or six times, you're on track.

1132
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: You win the conference six, ten or twelve times, you're

1133
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: on track.

1134
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 4: Also, Ian I would also put out there too, He's

1135
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: been out played three times in Super Bowls.

1136
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: He's all played about Tom Brady. He is all played

1137
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: by Jalen Hurts.

1138
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: Two years ago, He's all played by Jalen Hurts again.

1139
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: I think that's a god.

1140
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts had a strip sack fumble in a game

1141
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: that was a one score possession in which they lost

1142
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: the game by that.

1143
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: Like, I get that Jalen Hurts played really.

1144
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: Well in that first foot Bowl lost for Philly, But

1145
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: I think it's revisionist to say that he played better

1146
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: than Mahomes did.

1147
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: He played well, but to play like that, that's tough

1148
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: to me.

1149
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: Okay, I think he played. I think I thought I

1150
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 4: thought they all played. I've been saying it since that game.

1151
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: I thought he out played him. I know he had

1152
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: the fund about me. Hell, he threw an interception last Sunday.

1153
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 4: He turned the ball over also too, but he still

1154
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 4: out played him though. If you put the rest of

1155
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: the tape on, you take the one play out and

1156
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 4: line up the rest of the plays evenly, I think

1157
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 4: Jalen hurts. I go back and watch the game over,

1158
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: you know, whenever, if you go back and take take

1159
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 4: the strip fung fumble out by Nick Bolton, the return,

1160
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: and just put the rest of the plays up against

1161
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: each other, I thought he all played him. I thought

1162
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 4: he played him also Sunday, and then Brady out played

1163
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: him also too, So I think that would be I

1164
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: don't know if I would use that in my argument,

1165
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: and being that you brought that up, but I can

1166
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 4: see people throwing at agree because that's what we do, right,

1167
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 4: we have to nit pick everything down, And to me,

1168
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: it's just gonna come down to winning.

1169
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: That's I'm gonna look at it and go, okay.

1170
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: Like, if he gets the four, let's say it gets

1171
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: the four, you can't be better than the guy that

1172
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 4: won seven.

1173
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, it's it's the Jordan argument. Well that's what

1174
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 8: I said. That's the reason I brought it up is

1175
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 8: because it's like, if he losing this and getting absolutely

1176
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 8: destroyed in it, maybe it doesn't knock him down relative

1177
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 8: to everybody else. It doesn't take away anything he's done

1178
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 8: in his career. But my point is, if you're measuring

1179
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 8: him up against Brady, we're talking about the best football

1180
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 8: player who's ever lived, the best quarterback who's ever lived.

1181
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: It needs to be little things at the margin like this,

1182
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: you know.

1183
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 8: And if one of them got blown out in a

1184
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 8: Super Bowl and the other one never did, that has

1185
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 8: to mean something, is all I'm saying.

1186
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 4: And then you stopped on saying at four, oh right,

1187
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 4: like there, I mean, there's winning, like I said, just

1188
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: winning to me, But.

1189
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: It's also the years that he didn't get there. Yeah, true,

1190
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: those don't matter.

1191
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: And you know what the thing was, I saw this

1192
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: this interview with Brady, the Brady interview with Colin, and

1193
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: he talks about that, right, he talks about, no one

1194
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: cares about THEA and he started rolling them off. He goes,

1195
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 4: no one cares about the NFC championship game I lost

1196
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 4: against the Ravens and against the Colts and against the

1197
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 4: Still like he goes, no one cares about that stuff.

1198
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 3: He goes, you know what people care about?

1199
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Speaker 8: It?

1200
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 4: What I hear when I still go to New York,

1201
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 4: Is that Eli Manning beat me twice? Or when I

1202
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 4: go to Philly, is that Philly beat me? At the

1203
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: end of the day, we don't care about conference finals stuff.

1204
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 4: We don't care about alcs's, we don't care about wildcard rounds.

1205
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, when we start the line,

1206
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 4: guys up, we're gonna look at the championships. The numbers

1207
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: are there too, so we'll look at the numbers. But

1208
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 4: how often did you win at the end of the year.

1209
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 4: How many times did you hold the trophy to show

1210
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: that your team and you were better than everybody else

1211
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 4: that year? And when you've done it seven times over

1212
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: the length of twenty plus years, and you've had gaps,

1213
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: but you still kept coming back. I mean, I think

1214
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: that that that's gotta hold some kind of water, you

1215
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And Mahos he's had a great

1216
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: run right now, the last five years.

1217
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: It's been great.

1218
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 4: We'll see how it goes moving forward, because you know

1219
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: what I say, you got a four or five window.

1220
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 4: Ye right, maybe that's been their window. We will see

1221
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 4: him moving forward. But this team is going to change

1222
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 4: drastically moving forward, and we've seen that with some of

1223
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: these other quarterback we can look at Troy Aikman. We

1224
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: could throw his name in. He's got three Super Bowl rings,

1225
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 4: He's undefeated in Super Bowls. Yes, the line, Emmi Smith,

1226
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: all these other guys. But I just know when he

1227
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: was the quarterback and he was playing in that game,

1228
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 4: he didn't lose. I'm not saying Troy Aikman's up there,

1229
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 4: but there's the reason why he's got to go jacking

1230
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 4: in Hall of Fame's three and old Super Bowls. That's

1231
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 4: the first thing people are gonna say about him. They're

1232
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: not gonna mention conference championship wins.

1233
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: They're not gonna mention that. They don't care.

1234
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 4: About Andy Reid went the five straight. Andy Reid went

1235
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: the five straight conference championship game and got the one

1236
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 4: Super Bowl over it. We don't hold that with Andy, like, well,

1237
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 4: he got the five NFC straight Cup. We don't care

1238
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: about that in.

1239
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl.

1240
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 8: In the grand scheme of things, maybe not, but when

1241
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 8: you're literally holding guys up against each other who's better,

1242
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 8: you have to.

1243
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: And I think in the grands game of things we

1244
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: do like I think, like would anybody say the Bills

1245
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: team who lost four Super Bowls straight, was not one

1246
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: of the best teams in the a FC during that

1247
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: six year stretch.

1248
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: Like I mistake to the storyline as they lost four straight.

1249
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: Super bowl I understand, but but think about the question,

1250
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: are they not one of the best AFC teams in

1251
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: that decade?

1252
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely? See that's my point.

1253
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 8: When talking looks upon you less favorably, but it doesn't

1254
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 8: mean that you weren't one of the best teams.

1255
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 3: That's true.

1256
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: But we don't talk about we don't have a segment of, oh,

1257
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 4: let's rank the let's rank the the ten best AFC

1258
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: teams in this in this decade. We don't do that.

1259
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: Do we want to in order we want to defend something,

1260
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 4: And that's the only time we do it is when

1261
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: we want to defend something, then we'll go, well, they

1262
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: got this far, they got this. But at the end

1263
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 4: of the day, it's just always big guys. Who's winning,

1264
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: who's winning at all? Who's winning? When we start putting

1265
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: Mount Rushmore's and and and and and and and got

1266
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: lists and stuff. In every sport, we don't talk about

1267
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: conference and division rounds.

1268
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: We talk about Super Bowls in World Series and.

1269
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 8: But is it not losing a Super Bowl to not

1270
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 8: make the playoffs. Is that not losing a super Bowl?

1271
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: That's how I don't say say that again, No, you do.

1272
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 3: This is the fundamental super Bowl.

1273
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: This is the intellectual split that happens with every single person,

1274
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: in my opinion who makes this argument right here, right now.

1275
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: Go for it.

1276
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 8: No, yeah, I just in not making the playoffs, you've

1277
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 8: lost the super Bowl. The ultimate goal of every single

1278
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 8: NFL season is to win the Super Bowl.

1279
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 3: So you either win it or you don't.

1280
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 8: And if you don't even make the playoffs, it doesn't

1281
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 8: even matter if you make it to the big Game

1282
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 8: or not. If you don't, it's the same end result

1283
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 8: if you make it to the super Bowl and lose

1284
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 8: versus if you don't even make the play.

1285
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: The point Kansas City is the last, the thirty first

1286
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: team to lose the Super Bowl this year because Cleveland lost.

1287
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 3: It, New York lost it. New York lost it.

1288
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: All these other teams didn't even qualify, so they weren't

1289
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: eligible to win it.

1290
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: But I don't say it that way. Ian, Yeah, I know.

1291
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: I have to get what your second play in the

1292
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 3: super Bowl to lose it. If you don't make the playoffs,

1293
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: you don't make the playoffs. That's what that's title.

1294
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's when you when you when you

1295
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: talk about a team next year, Right, you don't go

1296
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: to Dolphins. We're not gonna sit in here in August

1297
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 4: and go, well, they lost the super Bowl last year.

1298
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: VJ.

1299
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 4: No, you're gonna go they didn't make the playoffs VJ.

1300
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 4: Because that's where it stops. Only two teams can lose

1301
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, and it's the two teams that play

1302
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: in it.

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00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: But at that point is if you had all time

1304
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: like when you had an all time great and Dan

1305
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: Marino and they're chalking up all how everybody finishes at

1306
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: the end of the year when you're compared already even

1307
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, at the end of

1308
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: careers where it's all said and done, you're looking at

1309
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: Marino and you're saying, well, Okay, how many rings did

1310
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: he win?

1311
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: How many of this did he win? How many that

1312
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 3: did he win? For your team?

1313
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 2: To the point where now I don't have the numbers

1314
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 2: off the top of my head, you probably have a

1315
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: better I mean, I know you have a better concept

1316
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 2: of how many times Marino like won the division round

1317
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: or won the first round or won the conference championship.

1318
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: And I know he only got the one super Bowl,

1319
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: right yep.

1320
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: So, but like there are guys who have more Super

1321
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: Bowls who are less accomplished than Dan Marino, like Nick Foles.

1322
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 4: There you go, okay, okay, so and we can go

1323
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 4: Nick Foles, we can go Trent Delford, we can go

1324
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: Brad Johnson. There's always an anomaly, guys, there's always you're

1325
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 4: gonna get one of those. But no one in their

1326
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: right mind is gonna sit on radio or television to

1327
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 4: say any of those three or four guys we just

1328
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: name is better than Dan Marino, because the tape doesn't

1329
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 4: say so. In the overall numbers over career didn't say so.

1330
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: But you know, the one thing they do have that

1331
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: he doesn't, They have a Super Bowl ring. It doesn't

1332
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 4: make them better than him. But the number one thing

1333
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 4: with Dan Marino, and I say this all the time,

1334
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: you think that man cares about says he championship appears, No,

1335
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 4: he doesn't have the ring. And that's why he slides

1336
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 4: down people's list. Because we could put the tape on

1337
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 4: and though the one, in my opinion, the greatest peers

1338
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: passer other than probably him, Johnny United and John Elwick

1339
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 4: that ever lay my eyes on. You just watch them throw,

1340
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: It goes up, it comes out, It's perfect every damn time.

1341
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: It's never an air ball. But he doesn't have the ring.

1342
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: Those are the two guys I just name. Both have rings,

1343
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 4: so they're gonna be elevated over him when that discussion

1344
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 4: starts yes weekend. A man, he was great any sport

1345
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 4: King Griffy Jr. Best five to two guy I ever

1346
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: saw in my life. Guess what he doesn't have though,

1347
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 4: he doesn't have a world serious championship, and he'll tell

1348
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 4: you that you don't care about the divisional round. It's

1349
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 4: corn coming from first on the single for the against

1350
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 4: the Yankees where he gets my ball as team And yes, it's.

1351
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 3: A cool moment, But do you think that's what he

1352
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 3: wakes up and thinks about.

1353
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 4: He wakes up and thinks if I just I just

1354
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 4: had that one, if I just had that ring. I

1355
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 4: just think winning still matters that way.

1356
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: No, I just know the going forward, I am not

1357
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna be doing the Oh well, this

1358
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: guy got knocked out in the first round, so some

1359
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: all matters less than losing in the Super Bowl. I

1360
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: think we've gotten turned around on this conversation in general,

1361
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: and like to the like to Vj's point, I mean,

1362
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: it goes like, I know they're throwing you me wrong.

1363
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's career holds an incredible amount of water, right

1364
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: or you know, Peyton manning tom Bradyt'll stick with him

1365
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 2: an incredible amount of water.

1366
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: But also you can't ignore the ten year drought.

1367
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 2: Right, So if mahomes and I'm not saying it's gonna happen,

1368
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: but if in fact he does have a drought of

1369
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: some proportion, let's keep this all in perspective, because there's

1370
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: been zero drought throughout the start of his career up

1371
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: to this moment, and up to this moment he is

1372
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: at he is having the best start to an NFL

1373
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: career that has ever existed, maybe honestly the best start

1374
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: to a professional athletes career.

1375
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 4: He's had a drought, Brady had a draw. But we

1376
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: have to also, I think, be responsible to name why

1377
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: the drought was. There was a guy named big Ben

1378
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, a guy named Peyton man and Hall

1379
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: of Famer, and a guy named Drew Brees, hall of Famer. Like, yeah,

1380
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: you went on the drought, but there were some other

1381
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 4: guys that were in. It wasn't going to It wasn't

1382
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: going to Bums. Flacko got won, but it wasn't going

1383
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 4: to bump It was other Hall of Fame, top ten

1384
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: all time guys that was getting some rings too.

1385
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: That's why I said I'm waiting on Mahomes because I

1386
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 3: still I'm still holding faith on right.

1387
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 4: What have we been talked about Alan and Burrow and

1388
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 4: Lamar and we've been told these guys are besides, these

1389
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 4: guys are gonna say franchises that take their teams the

1390
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: Super Bowls. That's what That's what's been said about each

1391
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: one of those. So I gotta let this play up.

1392
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: There might be a drought coming. But when Brady went

1393
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 4: to their drought, their team was a lot of influx.

1394
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 4: They had a lot of turnover. They had a lot

1395
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 4: of guys that remember when they cut Laura malloy, and

1396
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: they couldn't like they let like all pro guys go.

1397
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 4: And those are years where they can still get to

1398
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 4: the division round, to get to the AMFC Championship game,

1399
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 4: but you just you can't. You don't have that extra

1400
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: guy to get to the super Bowl, like those other years.

1401
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 4: I could see that possibly happen to a casey because

1402
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 4: I'm going by history. No NFL team runs the table

1403
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 4: guys for like ten straight years. That doesn't happen. Get

1404
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 4: about a four or five year window then contracts in

1405
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 4: the way the CBA is set up. If things gotta happen,

1406
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 4: you can still got my homes. You're still gonna win

1407
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 4: thirteen fourteen games. But in the AFC Championship game, has

1408
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: Burrow finally got a defense? Does Josh Allen finally beat

1409
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: him one day? Does Lamar Jackson finally get him again?

1410
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: Right now, it's like, Wow, he's lost three RC championship games.

1411
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 4: It's still got the three rings. But now we're starting

1412
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: to see some of these other teams and other quarterbacks.

1413
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 4: I think that's part of the narrative too.

1414
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see Lamar Jackson's two MVPs in this stretch.

1415
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and but no, Lamar Jackson an MVP in the stretch,

1416
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 2: can't beat them. No conference championship wins for anybody except

1417
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: for Joe Burrow coming on next NBA trades flew fast

1418
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: and furious. Which one has the biggest impact on the

1419
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: next forty or so games?

1420
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Speaker 3: Of the season. We'll get to that in just a minute.

1421
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Speaker 3: Martin Whys' VJ Husky Fox Sports Saturday.

1422
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Speaker 2: Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel,

1423
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Speaker 2: especially right now. There's a ton of great videos from

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Speaker 2: two weeks when Fox Sports Radio was live from the

1425
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl in New Orleans. All the videos from the

1426
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Speaker 2: great big name interviews. You can find them on the

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Speaker 2: YouTube page. Just starts Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and

1428
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Speaker 2: you'll have access to a whole bunch of highlights. Be

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Speaker 2: sure to subscribe and you always have instant access to

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Speaker 2: live from the tire IRAQ dot com studios. You can

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Speaker 2: hit us up on Twitter with your two cents. I'm

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Speaker 2: at Martin Wis's VJ at Big Vanilla Funny VJ.

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Speaker 3: You got anything right there?

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00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I do my man rometto the Chewy ragone. What's

1436
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: up on out and Houston say that Big Big Vanilla Funny.

1437
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 4: How about a future episode of VJ saying what I

1438
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 4: said my new TV show Season two that debut this morning.

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00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 4: Film that the one and only screwed up records and tapes.

1440
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Speaker 4: Who do got a lot of chat? I guess it's

1441
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 4: a what he is a bar or old tape or

1442
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 4: record store. And then of course we got some funny

1443
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: ones here. Jason Thompson says, this is Marion Wise and

1444
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 4: that big Vanilla fund. He's strutting in, flexing on their

1445
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 4: ops and it's, uh, looks like I think that's a J.

1446
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 4: Brown walking at the parade with a belt. I like

1447
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 4: he's spanking somebody. So let's see, is that gardner? I'm

1448
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 4: sorry they look. I guess they look. You've got the

1449
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 4: same type of hair, so I guess I didn't do

1450
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 4: anything for the misconception that all black people looking like

1451
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 4: my bad black people.

1452
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm still down.

1453
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: NBA trade deadline was moving very fast and furious as

1454
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: we saw all types of big time guys get moved.

1455
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 3: VJ.

1456
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: Which move do you think we'll have the biggest impact

1457
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: on this season the remaining forty games that the NBA

1458
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: has to play as we're in the middle of the

1459
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: All Star break.

1460
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 4: I think the easy answer, I think for most people

1461
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 4: would be Luca to the Lakers. But I just Ian

1462
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 4: and I were talking about how I feel about that.

1463
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 4: It's not that one for me. I like the moves

1464
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 4: and I know I'm gonna mess up Butcher's name Hunter

1465
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 4: to pick up for Cleveland to get a guy like

1466
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hunter.

1467
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 3: Correct, all right, good guy, It all right.

1468
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hunter, a D and three guy what you need

1469
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 4: to win a championship, and he's not gonna be.

1470
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: Asked to do a lot. There.

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01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 4: You're being traded from the Hawks to the top team

1472
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 4: in the East, and they got so many pieces there

1473
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 4: and they're my number one team in my power of five.

1474
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: But that move right there, man, was was big for me.

1475
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: You get a you get a six six sixty seven

1476
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 4: wing guy who can defend three positions, four position on

1477
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 4: perimeter and doesn't mind playing defense and getting and getting

1478
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: a little nasty, getting a little elbow in there, and

1479
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 4: the petts and boards and he's gonna hit the three

1480
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 4: ball for you. It spreads the floor now. And now

1481
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 4: you got a guy like Donovan Mitchell, who's got who's

1482
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 4: got a another role, guy to create get into the

1483
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 4: lane and kick out too. I thought I thought that

1484
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 4: was the bigger move in the move. I think it's

1485
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 4: gonna work out. When you see the best team in

1486
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 4: the conference make a move to get a real impact,

1487
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: impact type player, I think that's always the best move.

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Speaker 2: I'll come with my best of the NBA treadd line

1489
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: in just a minute, But first we have Team the

1490
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: Saga to update us on the Scinti.

1491
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 3: Letting events happening in San Francisco right now.

1492
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 7: Well, there's actual competition going on in Montreal because people

1493
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 7: are trying and it's actually exciting. Yeah, we had three

1494
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 7: fights first nine seconds of US at Canada tonight. This

1495
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 7: is hockey's Four Nations face off. They've started the second period.

1496
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 7: US tied one one at Canada. Finland won in overtime

1497
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 7: today against Sweden for to three. And yeah, NBA All

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01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 7: Star Weekend is in San Francisco. It started with the

1499
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 7: Youth the Rising Stars on Friday. Winner of that will

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01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 7: compete Sunday as Team Chris Mullen advanced to go against

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01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 7: the Big Boys in the All Star Game in San

1502
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 7: Francisco Sunday night, which, by the way, the All Star

1503
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 7: Game kind of a misnomer.

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01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: Now it's now a.

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01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 7: Four team mini tournament Skills Challenge tonight, won by Cleveland

1506
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 7: beating host Golden State in the final. Three point contest

1507
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 7: has its final going on right now. Tyler Hero was

1508
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 7: in the lead in the final Buddy Healed had by

1509
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 7: far the best first round to advance slam dunk content.

1510
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 7: This coming up later. There is college basketball on Fox

1511
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 7: TV right now twelve minutes to go, and Illinois at

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01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 7: home is tied with eleventh ranked Michigan State fifty six

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Speaker 7: fifty six, fifteenth rank Kentucky only leads at Texas forty

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 7: eight forty six early in the second half and halftime.

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Speaker 7: Number three Florida, which is to thirty seven to thirty

1516
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 7: three lead over South Carolina, which is winless in the

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 7: SEC this year.

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01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 3: Oh and eleven.

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01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 7: Number one ranked Auburn won at number two Alabama ninety

1520
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 7: four to eighty five. Three weeks left in the regular season.

1521
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 7: In college hoops, Auburn will host Alabama to end the season.

1522
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 7: Wins in the top ten for Duke Texas A and

1523
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 7: m and Iowa State. At fifth ranked Tennessee, the Balls

1524
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 7: trailed Vanderbuilt by sixteen just before halftime, but came back

1525
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 7: to beat him eighty one seventy six, six thrank Houston

1526
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 7: won at number thirteen Arizona sixty two to fifty eight,

1527
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 7: and at number seven per Due sixteenth rank Wisconsin pulled

1528
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 7: off the upset, scored fifty eight points in the second

1529
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 7: half and beat Purdue ninety four to eighty four. Victories

1530
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 7: for ten Texas Tech and Missouri wins for Clemson and

1531
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 7: number twenty two Mississippi State, which held on to win

1532
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 7: at number nineteen old miss eighty one seventy one. A reminder,

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Speaker 7: Sunday's Daytona five hundred TV coverage will start an hour

1534
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 7: early due to the weather forecast, which is not great.

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01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 7: The race is due to begin at two pm Eastern

1536
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 7: Time on Fox TV. By the way, the Dodgers full

1537
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 7: squad workouts at spring training started today the Cubs yesterday.

1538
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 7: The Cubs and Dodgers opened in Tokyo in March.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thanks Steve Martin and VJ comings to

1540
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: you live from the tai Iraq dot Com studios for

1541
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: me and I want your opinion here, VJ. I think

1542
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: the biggest are not the biggest. It wasn't the biggest

1543
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: biggest name obviously the move was Luca Dogs. But the

1544
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: train I think well have the most impact on the

1545
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: remainder of this season is the San Antonio Spurs getting

1546
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: de Aaron Fox. This is a team that is four

1547
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: and a half or three and a half games out

1548
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,439
Speaker 2: of the play in tournament right now. Now with the

1549
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: Mavericks gonna be skyrocketing to our skyrocketing, it's the wrong way,

1550
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: free falling to the bottom. The Suns, I think, are

1551
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: gonna be going towards the bottom. And I think the

1552
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: Kings obviously take deeron Fox from them, they're gonna be worse.

1553
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: I think the Spurs were a team that we're going

1554
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: to completely miss the playoffs to now a team that

1555
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: have a shot to be a team hosting a play

1556
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: in game, or if things break.

1557
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 3: Right for them down the second half of this thing,

1558
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 3: to be a sixth, sixth seed in the postseason.

1559
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: And when you're a guy like Victor Winnbinyama who has

1560
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: been touted and as the next best thing sice Bread,

1561
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: look out, Victor win Benyama's on the way.

1562
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 3: You need to see this guy in the postseason. That's huge.

1563
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: And I think trading for de Aaron Fox Mica waves

1564
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: the process a little bit. As long as they can

1565
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: can put you know, Chris Paul put them down on

1566
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: the bench a little bit. It's okay, all right, thank you,

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01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: thanks for your service.

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01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't.

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01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get married to the I just I

1570
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 4: just think that you look at Golden State, they get

1571
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler. I'm not sure what that's gonna do for them,

1572
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 4: but he is a better player than what they've had.

1573
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 3: I don't think I thought Golden State got better.

1574
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 2: The teams I'm targeting falling out are Dallas, Sacramento in Phoenix.

1575
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: Well down terms of the teams that are going to

1576
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 2: be struggling, I think Golden State will be about the same.

1577
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 4: Well, Dallas has got the injury bug. Now Ad could

1578
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 4: be having season endo surgery. Gotford is out for six weeks.

1579
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 4: They're down to Derek Lively. I mean they can call

1580
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 4: Mongolia and see if the Marcus Boogie Cousins wants to

1581
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 4: try to get back in the league or Dwight Howard,

1582
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 4: who is now a finalist for the Hall of Fame.

1583
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 4: So I think he's pretty much I think Dwight Howard

1584
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 4: is pretty much done.

1585
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 8: Competing in the three point contest over and overseas was

1586
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 8: Dwight Howard.

1587
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he still look Listen, Broy, listen, if basketball was

1588
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 4: just looks he still looks like he can play, right.

1589
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 3: The guy still looks like.

1590
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: He's in tremendous shape us all TikTok video with him

1591
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 4: and his lovely wife the other.

1592
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 3: Morning, and you know he got the key there.

1593
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 4: What's gonna happen with Minnesota Phoenix is just the Phoenix

1594
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 4: just feels like a dumpster fire man, like Bradley Bil.

1595
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 4: I'm watching them play the other night against Memphis, and

1596
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 4: I'm watching Bradley Bil and I'm like God, I told

1597
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 4: people he's Gilbert Arena's two point zero guys.

1598
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 3: You'll have a few two good, you know, money.

1599
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 4: Type years where you'll think he's this great player and

1600
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 4: just he's the scorer as a shooter. He doesn't play defense,

1601
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 4: he doesn't really work on this game. It's kind of

1602
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 4: what he was at Florida. He's the same guy. So

1603
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 4: you know, they were thinking about trying to trade d

1604
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 4: Rant back to Koda State. A lot going on there

1605
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 4: the Spurs. I didn't think they'd be this bad. I

1606
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 4: thought when they signed Chris Paul, I thought that would

1607
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 4: actually help elevate the team. And they're better than they

1608
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 4: were last year record wise at this point, but still

1609
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 4: sitting six games under five hundred.

1610
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: This team isn't close to five hundred.

1611
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: I mean, but the team is definitely elevated from where

1612
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: they were last year.

1613
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Speaker 3: This you know, yeah it record wise, they're elevated. Record wise,

1614
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 3: they are elevated. Point. They can't win on the road.

1615
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 3: That's my problem.

1616
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 4: And when you got thirty games left, I'm assuming at

1617
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 4: least half of them things gonna be on the road,

1618
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 4: or just under half are gonna be on the road.

1619
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 4: They're nine and six. They can't win on the road.

1620
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: So if they're gonna be on the road, I just

1621
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 4: don't I just don't see it. I think I think

1622
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 4: go to State State's firm. I think they get into

1623
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: the plan. I think Kyrie's enough, not enough to win anything,

1624
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 4: but enough not to fall out of the plan. And

1625
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 4: they just went up and got to get to win

1626
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 4: in Boston without AD. Then they go to Houston and

1627
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Speaker 4: get a win without a D Like they've gone on

1628
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 4: the road. They got some other guys there. But I

1629
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 4: just think the injuries are gonna catch up to them.

1630
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 4: I think though we're deeping up into the season to

1631
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 4: where they don't fall out.

1632
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: So I would say that I would say.

1633
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 4: The Spurs miss the play in I would think the

1634
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 4: Spurs missed the plan. I get the Aaron Fox. I'm

1635
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 4: still kind of, you know, fifty to fifty even on

1636
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 4: him as a player.

1637
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Speaker 3: I like his game, but I haven't seen them like

1638
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that leap.

1639
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 4: He's kind of been the guy who's been the last

1640
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 4: like three or four years, and it's just like, okay, brother,

1641
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 4: I need to see something different. I mean, think about it.

1642
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 4: He was Sacramento's franchise player and they traded him. He

1643
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 4: was their guy and they traded him, So that shows

1644
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 4: you what they thought. Also demanded out after they well

1645
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 4: I mean I get that, but at the end of

1646
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 4: the day, if you're still the team's best player and

1647
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 4: they trade you, that still matters whether you demand it

1648
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 4: or not. You still got traded as the team's best player,

1649
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 4: and you gotta sit to another five hundred team. Now,

1650
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 4: we'll see how much he elevates. We'll see how much

1651
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 4: Chris Paul's gonna send on a bitch and give him time.

1652
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 4: I just like I said, I think it's a nice player.

1653
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 4: I'm just never been sold on Darien Fox being that

1654
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,879
Speaker 4: guy that's gonna lead your franchise anywhere.

1655
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 2: Well, the leader of the franchise will be Victim Win.

1656
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: Minyama just got a point guard. Like, so that's where

1657
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: the take is coming from. It's not necessarily a Dearn

1658
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: Fox is going to be, you know, stepping his game

1659
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: up to some level.

1660
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 3: That I mean, he was best player.

1661
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: On a team that had home court advantage two years

1662
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: ago in the Sacramento But either way more likely to

1663
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: occur from the super Bowl fallout because me and ian

1664
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: were talking about this pre show.

1665
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: If you look at Nick.

1666
01:09:55,200 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: Sirianni's last three seasons, starts with a super Bowl loss, right,

1667
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: then goes ten to one and free falls fast and

1668
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 2: Tom Petty down a cliff to lose to that Baker

1669
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 2: Bucks led team, then super Bowl win, right, So we saw,

1670
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: I mean, just about as successful as you can be

1671
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 2: with that winning the super Bowl three years ago, disaster

1672
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: second half of the year, year two, year three, as

1673
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: successful as you can be. If you had to predict

1674
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: going forward for next season, more likely Eagles repeat or

1675
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: Eagles fall off.

1676
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 3: A cliff repeat.

1677
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 4: I think it's far more to the repeat side because

1678
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 4: they're young, they don't have a bunch of guys. They

1679
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 4: gotta scramble around and figure out contracts. This year, important

1680
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 4: pieces they got guys on rookie contracts, still they got young,

1681
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 4: they got young talent. There, you have Saquon Barkley, you have,

1682
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 4: in my opinion, a MVP style quarterback. You're still gonna

1683
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 4: have that defense, just gonna have Vic Vangiel. That defense

1684
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 4: probably gonna be better. Think about that defus can be better.

1685
01:10:58,640 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 3: Next year.

1686
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 4: They're gonna add people. They gonna draft well, they've been

1687
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 4: drafted well.

1688
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 3: Look at the team. They've been drafted really well.

1689
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 4: And you think we had the GM debate last week, right,

1690
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 4: we had the GM debate. You had it for Deagles.

1691
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 4: So I don't think that's gonna fall off a cliff.

1692
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 4: I think it's way more likely. I think it could

1693
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 4: be tougher. I think the Lions bounced back. I think

1694
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 4: Washington's good. I think something happens with Dallas. I think

1695
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 4: Dallas bounces back this year. They have a good ross.

1696
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 4: I think I think Michael Parsons is gone, which I

1697
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 4: predicted over the summer. If you pay CD Lamb, something's

1698
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 4: gonna have to happen with Parsons. But I think it's

1699
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 4: way more likely they get back to just fall off

1700
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 4: a cliff because honestly, as long as twenty six is

1701
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 4: is healthy, turn a hand the ball it's football, one

1702
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 4: on one, run the football, and you have that it

1703
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 4: takes the weight in the pressure having this shoulder or

1704
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 4: load to running the football and stuff off of Jalen Hurts.

1705
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 4: I thought that was really evident this year. Like I said,

1706
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 4: young players, young defense, I definitely like them to be

1707
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 4: probably back in the NFC Championship game.

1708
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: More likely to repeat than fall off a cliff.

1709
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: I said, more likely to repeat than fall off a

1710
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 2: cliff as well, but I cause I think that falling

1711
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: off a cliff is really hard or a roster that

1712
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: that's good.

1713
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 8: Well, let me pose one thing to you guys, because

1714
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 8: there have been nine teams in the Super Bowl era

1715
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 8: to successfully defend their titles.

1716
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 3: There have been nine teimes repeat absolutely.

1717
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 8: So you'd be saying, if they repeat, they're one of

1718
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 8: the best Super Bowl teams ever.

1719
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 3: Now we're now, we're back.

1720
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 4: Now we're back to the quarterback conversation, because what's the fact.

1721
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 3: The fact is that they did it and.

1722
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 4: There were only one of ten teams that ever do

1723
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 4: it in sixty years of Super Bowls, So it would

1724
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 4: be a conversation. But then once you start breaking the

1725
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 4: team down, you know you have the Cowboys, you got

1726
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 4: the Niners, you got the Steelers, you got the Packers,

1727
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 4: you got the Patriots, the Chiefs.

1728
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: Who am I missing? That's six.

1729
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 4: I'm not missing somebody in there. But I said the Steelers,

1730
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 4: So one of those pickers. But you know, cowboys, cowboys

1731
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 4: of repeat it.

1732
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 8: What I mean is you can pose the question as

1733
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 8: do you think it's more likely that they're one of

1734
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 8: the best Super Bowl teams in the modern era or

1735
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 8: that they fall off.

1736
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 4: A clay if they went back to back, then yeah,

1737
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 4: you'd have to say that, because then that means what

1738
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 4: they're doing is working. It's hard to get there, and

1739
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 4: it's harder to win. It's even harder to restart in

1740
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 4: July and go again and then win again the following year.

1741
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's the hardest thing to do. Also

1742
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 4: with the Chiefs too, Just a quick sybbarn and Chiefs.

1743
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 4: Remember teams that lose don't go back to the Super Bowl.

1744
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 3: Think there's only been two.

1745
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 4: Teams to do that in the last thirty five years.

1746
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 4: I believe the Bills and Patriots the other teams that

1747
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 4: when they lose the Super Bowl to go back the

1748
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 4: following year.

1749
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Kansas City Tampa, and then the next year

1750
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 3: was and the Bengals.

1751
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 4: Yes, yes it was a resume. There's only two teams

1752
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 4: to do it. There are the only two teams that

1753
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 4: lose the Super Bowl and go back. That's another just

1754
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 4: sidebar about the Super Bowl and these two teams moving forward.

1755
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 4: But I just think this team is set up right.

1756
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 4: Where's their holes, who's leaving? What are they what are

1757
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 4: they losing? I think they're right. I think they love

1758
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 4: the coordinator. Coordinator is going to go be ahead of coach.

1759
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: That's and that's third year in a row they're gonna

1760
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: lose their offensive coordinator to a different job. I think

1761
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 2: that has major impact. I think the Eagles offensive line.

1762
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: If the Eagles offensive line is not healthy, they're not

1763
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 2: winning anything.

1764
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest thing for me.

1765
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: Now.

1766
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 3: They were able to.

1767
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: Piece together in the NFC Championship game, Cam Jurgens and

1768
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: Landon Dickerson back and forth at the center position, and

1769
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: then after two weeks they were able to you know, obviously,

1770
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 2: you know, extra time off between Championship game posting and

1771
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl was no impact.

1772
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 3: We saw no impact that front. But to me, the.

1773
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 2: Eagles offensive line is so important that if those if

1774
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: they lose two or three guys on the offensive line,

1775
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: this whole thing falls apart. Tousch pushes out the window

1776
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 2: play actions done. And I don't think that they have,

1777
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 2: Like I say, Kwa bark is great running back, you

1778
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: got to have at least two or three guys blocked

1779
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: up in front of you to be make things happen.

1780
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: And I don't think they have the level of quarterback

1781
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: that we see s Perennial getting MVP level votes and

1782
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: being because he's a guy who's carrying the team here

1783
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: and every single week type of thing.

1784
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 4: The GM, like you said, how Roseman does a great job. Whatever,

1785
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 4: whatever they saw on the line this year, they'll fix

1786
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 4: in the off season. They'll be a free agent signing.

1787
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 4: We don't know anything to fix right now currently. I'm

1788
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 4: saying mid through the through the season.

1789
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 2: Let's say you lose backed in week four, and then

1790
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson week six, and you lose another guy week seven,

1791
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 2: and then week eight. Now you're now you're signing from

1792
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,759
Speaker 2: the street, you signed from your practice squad. You're piecing

1793
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 2: together you're offensive line very much in the same way

1794
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: that the Lions pieced together their defensive line.

1795
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 3: This year.

1796
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,759
Speaker 4: I think if the Eagles were in that spot, cancel Christmas.

1797
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 4: I'll go what I've seen. What I've seen in the

1798
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 4: line was healthy. And when it's healthy, they've the lead's

1799
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 4: best prusher and uh, you know, protect the quarterback.

1800
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:41,719
Speaker 3: He had all day and the Super.

1801
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: Bowl to agree. If guys don't get hurt, they would

1802
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: stay healthy. Coming up next to a game of Who

1803
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: You Got? By producer Ian NBA All Star Game Edition,

1804
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: No all Right? Coming up next Martin Wis's VJ Husky

1805
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Football Saturday. Come to your line from the

1806
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 2: Tirack dot Com studios. You can hit us up on

1807
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 2: Twitter with your two cents. Now, time for a game

1808
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 2: of who you Got?

1809
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: All Right?

1810
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 3: Who You Got? NBA All Star Edition.

1811
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 8: We're currently watching the NBA All Star festivities as they

1812
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 8: go on right now, but we actually have always done

1813
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 8: football for the show, so it's gonna be fun to

1814
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 8: switch it up a little bit. Have an NBA player

1815
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 8: you guys are trying to guess here?

1816
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 3: Oh? Doing basketball? Basketball? Yes, sir, switching it up. I

1817
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 3: don't think we've ever done basketball.

1818
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 8: I don't think we have either, so so yeah, let's

1819
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 8: start here. This guy was drafted by the Golden State Warriors.

1820
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 8: Klay Thompson No, Chris Molly No. He played in four

1821
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 8: NBA All Star Games and made First Team All NBA twice.

1822
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 3: Four All Star Games, two times first Manda Ellis no.

1823
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:58,520
Speaker 3: Latrell's pretty well no, He's never won an NBA championship.

1824
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: Drafted by the Warriors. Four All Star Games. This is

1825
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 2: a guy who's famous for never winning a championship. I'm

1826
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 2: sure drafted by the Warriors.

1827
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: Did he? How bet he never played for the Warriors.

1828
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1829
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 9: Tracey McGrady was not drafted by the Warriors. Nope, incorrect.

1830
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 9: Four All Stars, one First Team All NBA. Drafted by

1831
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 9: the Warriors. But no chippy.

1832
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 3: He said.

1833
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 4: Monte Alice was a good guess, but never won a chippy.

1834
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 3: Monte is a good guess, but no.

1835
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 2: I have a feeling this is a guy who was

1836
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: drafted by Golden State, only played a year or two there,

1837
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: and was traded or immediately.

1838
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 8: Dana Barrels, No, all right, here we are he never

1839
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 8: He scored his career high of forty two against the

1840
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 8: Nets in nineteen ninety five.

1841
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 2: Forty two nineteen ninety five. Chris Webber, Nope, not a

1842
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: bad guess though.

1843
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh uh uh slice, light skinned guy. I

1844
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: can't get his name. His face is in my head.

1845
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: Uh that says pretty well. Goodness gracious.

1846
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 4: Five uh spit Spence, Spencer, Spitzer, Spitzer, Spencer, Spencer Halls.

1847
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 3: He was a Philly I'll give you another clue here.

1848
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 8: While he's considered an all time player, his career was

1849
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 8: derailed by injuries, stopping him from achieving his potential.

1850
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 3: Great hill.

1851
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 2: No, he drafted by the Pistons. Oh good, uh, blew

1852
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: that one, Brandon Roy.

1853
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 3: Nope, here's another one.

1854
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 8: He jes No, he goes by a nickname, but his

1855
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 8: real first name is Anthony Oh Penny Hardaway.

1856
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 3: That's right. I was scared that he was. Yeah, he

1857
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 3: did get he was drafted by him. You're right, was

1858
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: drafted by the way they traded him on draft.

1859
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 7: No.

1860
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 8: He This is what Mary was saying, is you're weirdly

1861
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 8: good at that stuff. Because last week Martin with Devonte Freeman,

1862
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 8: I said he in the Super Bowl, he had two

1863
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 8: receptions for forty six yards, and right away you were like,

1864
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 8: I bet it's a I bet it's a running back.

1865
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 3: Nunners only the one first team All NBA twice twice twice. Oh, okay,

1866
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 3: I was about to say, all it up? Did we did?

1867
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 3: I was about to say, did we forget ninety four,

1868
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 3: ninety five, ninety two, ninety three? He uh, the other clues.

1869
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 8: Shack famously said this guy was Kobe before Kobe said

1870
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,879
Speaker 8: that on his podcast relatively recently.

1871
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

1872
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 8: And he's the current head coach at the University of

1873
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 8: Memphis Memphis.

1874
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1875
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Penny Hardaway one of the coldest shoes out Penny

1876
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: Hardaway shoes.

1877
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 5: That's really sick. How you got that? By the way,

1878
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 5: like you just said, Oh yeah, he definitely didn't like.

1879
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 3: That was weird. I mean I didn't.

1880
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: That's that's the story of my life right around the answer.

1881
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: Can't get it right right there? New mad details about

1882
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 2: the answer with struggling to actually nail the response.

1883
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 4: Penny Hardaway was the guard that magic was the guard

1884
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 4: that injured whose tall point guards and distributing and running

1885
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 4: the show. Penny was the first tall guard they came

1886
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 4: in and they took it up to the scoring that

1887
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 4: ninety three to ninety four season. People need to go

1888
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 4: back and look at that it went and just shack man,

1889
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 4: Penny was a Dog.

1890
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 2: Coming up next, right in the middle of the Slam

1891
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 2: Dunk contest, Can anything be done to save the NBA

1892
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: All Star Game?

1893
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 3: And we'll recap our playoff fix Martin de VJ.

1894
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,240
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1901
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: Slam Dunk Contest right now. Andre Jackson Junior attempting his

1902
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: second attempt here on what I believe to be his

1903
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 2: first dunk over the round. We'll dive into the NBA

1904
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: All Star Game in about six minutes and hopefully have

1905
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: a better showing than Andre Jackson Junior just did on

1906
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: that dunk attempt. But right now, let's go ahead and

1907
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: recap for the last time our NFL playoff picks.

1908
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 8: Just waiting on that music, Yeah, there we go. All right,

1909
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 8: So reviewing the playoff picks. So remember Martin won the

1910
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 8: regular season, but now it's time to decide to determine

1911
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 8: who won the playoffs. So we're gonna go through the

1912
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 8: Super Bowl picks. We had thirteen props that we went on.

1913
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 8: That's actually a lot. So let's go down one by one.

1914
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts two hundred and thirteen and a half passing yards.

1915
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 8: You both said over, and you were both correct. Patrick

1916
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 8: Mahomes two hundred and fifty two and a half passing yards.

1917
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 8: You both said under. You were both incorrect.

1918
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 3: He spent over two fifty two. Yeah, it was garbage time,

1919
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 3: remember that deep bomb behavior worthy.

1920
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, two fifty seven fifty seven, so twenty four yards in.

1921
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 3: The first half.

1922
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 8: Saquon Barkley one hundred and twelve point five rushing yards.

1923
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 8: Martin you said under, VJ. You said over, he went under.

1924
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 8: Martin was correct on that one. Travis Kelcey sixty two

1925
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 8: and a half receiving yards. You both correctly predicted he

1926
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 8: would go under. AJ Brown seventy one and a half

1927
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 8: receiving yards. Martin said under, which was correct. VJ said over.

1928
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 8: First downs for Kansas City nineteen and a half. You

1929
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 8: both were adamant it would be less. Boy, were you right?

1930
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 3: How many did they end up past. I don't know,

1931
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 3: I just knew it was less than nineteen and a half.

1932
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 3: Got you gatorade color? Martin you said blue, VJ. You

1933
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 3: said purple. I like that.

1934
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 8: You both went off on a limb. But it was

1935
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 8: the favorite. It was the lemon, lime green.

1936
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: Well, when Day put three freaking colors, that's the favorite, I.

1937
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 8: Mean last to score. You both said the Eagles. It

1938
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 8: was actually the Chiefs. That was the aforementioned Xavier Worthy

1939
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 8: deep bomb touchdown that got Mahomes over on his prop

1940
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 8: longest touchdown. You both said Eagles, which was wrong. This

1941
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 8: or Xavier Worthy fifty five and a half receiving yards.

1942
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 8: You both said over, which was correct. This is where

1943
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 8: VJ made his money back Chiefs minus one versus Eagles. Martin,

1944
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 8: you took the Chiefs, VJ took the Eagles. That was correct.

1945
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 8: MVP Martin, you said, Patrick Mahomes and then your long

1946
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 8: shot was Devonte Smith. VJ you said Jalen Hurts. Your

1947
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 8: long shot was AJB round. Jalen Hurst was the MVP.

1948
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 8: So you got it and then finally over under forty

1949
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 8: eight and a half. Martin said under. VJ said over

1950
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 8: and over was correct. So for the Super Bowl VJ

1951
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 8: you were seven and six, Martin, you were six and seven.

1952
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 8: So overall in the playoffs, VJ is the winner with

1953
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 8: a final score of seventeen and nine Martin thirteen and thirteen.

1954
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 3: Well done, boys, well five hundred. There you go. Didn't

1955
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 3: lose the money.

1956
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 2: First downs for Kansas City twelve twelve first downs to

1957
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 2: twenty one for the Eagles. Now, had Patrick Mahomes not

1958
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: completed that pass to Worthy, we would have been right

1959
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: on under right on Underworthy yards and right on Eagles

1960
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 2: longest play right.

1961
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 3: Is that correct? That is correct? But it happened.

1962
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 4: I thought, Josh, what, I'm sorry, go ahead, No, I

1963
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 4: was just gonna say, it's the Saquan one. I could

1964
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 4: feel that coming. He couldn't he couldn't find any holes.

1965
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 4: But they just kept I mean, they gave it to

1966
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 4: him twenty five times. It didn't even matter. By the

1967
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 4: end of the middle of the third quarter. It's like,

1968
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 4: why bother uh even running the ball?

1969
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 3: Get will Shipley some some love. I'm saying game.

1970
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: Well, I know a popular prop every Super Bowl is

1971
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 2: over two and a half players to throw a pass.

1972
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: Generally speaking, that's because you imagine there's going to be

1973
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: a trick play of some sort, not because we're going

1974
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: to see backup quarterbacks like Kenny Pickett took Super Bowl snaps.

1975
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that, but Kenny.

1976
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: Pickett took Super Bowl snaps. That's what's wild about this

1977
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: or one of the wild things about it.

1978
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 3: Now with the was one other thing that I wanted

1979
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 3: to touch on.

1980
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 4: When do we when do we start to talk about

1981
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 4: Andy Reid and his lack of adjustments in this game?

1982
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 1: Oh?

1983
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: It was disgusting. They didn't wiggle at all. And it's

1984
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: been a topic. I think it's just been kind.

1985
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 4: Of glossed over because it nothing was different from the

1986
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 4: first half to the second half and all the garbage

1987
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 4: points and all the garbage time, Uh, where the Chiefs

1988
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 4: really kind of you know the the he wass a

1989
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 4: waving a white black like game over, you got your

1990
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 4: ass kick. We're just waiting to pour the gatorade down

1991
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 4: in the caffetti to fall.

1992
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 3: But he he got.

1993
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 4: And I tweeted in like the second quarter, is anybody

1994
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,799
Speaker 4: gonna tweet about the way Vic Vangiel is out coaching

1995
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 4: Andy Reid right now? And I want to make sure

1996
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 4: I put that out in live time so that in

1997
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 4: the second quarter where at the party I was host

1998
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 4: and I'm like, hey man, this thing's this thing's not

1999
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,799
Speaker 4: looking good. They're not running any different type of plays.

2000
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 4: And if you remember last Saturday I talked about I

2001
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,679
Speaker 4: thought this could be a game where we could see

2002
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 4: Mahomes escaping the pocket a lot because of the pressure

2003
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 4: that would come right up the middle. And that's exactly

2004
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 4: what the Eagles did. I would just take at some point,

2005
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 4: where's Andy, where's Andy's fall? Not I hate these fall

2006
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 4: but when are we gonna start to just say, hey,

2007
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 4: Andy Reid got out coached for the world to see.

2008
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 3: Rob Parker's ready to fire him. I don't know if

2009
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 3: he saw that. No, I didn't.

2010
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 2: That was his stake this week. All takes are better

2011
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: when they're rooted in the level of fact. I'll just

2012
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 2: put it like that.

2013
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 3: But the Andy Reid, the thing that to me.

2014
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: Was the most damning was the lack of rushing attempts

2015
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,520
Speaker 2: as the game progressed.

2016
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 3: You saw.

2017
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't until now I get it that Philly was

2018
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 2: not necessarily balls to the wall so to speak, in

2019
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 2: the third and fourth quarters of that game, because it

2020
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 2: was not even close. But Kansas City. To me, as

2021
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: soon as they started running the ball, they started having

2022
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: some offensive success. I don't understand why they didn't try

2023
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 2: to run the ball earlier, but I think honestly, what

2024
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: it boils down to, And I know that this may

2025
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: be a little unfair, but when Patrick Mahomes has two

2026
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: interceptions that lead directly to fourteen points, one a pick six,

2027
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 2: the other one in his own red zone, are in

2028
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: the Eagles red zone?

2029
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 3: Was that born with that.

2030
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: Interception leads directly to fourteen points in a game in

2031
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 2: which they lose by twenty was forty to twenty two.

2032
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 2: They were fourteen eighteen points. If he just plays better,

2033
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: like if he just doesn't turn the ball over, I

2034
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: think we're looking at an entirely different situation. So while

2035
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 2: I begrudge Andy Reid for not necessarily making adjustments.

2036
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 3: I think that if Mahomes just didn't play the worst

2037
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 3: game he's ever played, the Chiefs are gonna be in

2038
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 3: a one score game in like late in.

2039
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 4: That game marabut To, that would be play calling, right,

2040
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 4: all right. So they're they're rushing four and dropping seven

2041
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 4: all game. That was the defensive So you have to

2042
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 4: call plays that you have to there's got to be

2043
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 4: a play sheet you have for form a rush and

2044
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 4: you got to go to those plays. It felt like

2045
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 4: everything was trying to go downfield and if you don't

2046
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 4: have time, then we need more quick hit plays. Where

2047
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 4: was the quick slant to Hopkins. Hopkins is a big

2048
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 4: body guy. When they threw him a late you know

2049
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 4: they threw it to him late in the game. He

2050
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 4: scored right when they were trying to get the garbage points.

2051
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 4: Where was those play calling? That's to me, is the

2052
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 4: out being out? Coach Vic Vangel says we're gonna rush four.

2053
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 4: We're not even blitzing. We're gonna rush four. We're gonna

2054
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 4: drop seven. But it felt like it almost reminded me

2055
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 4: when the Ravens tried to make Lamar Jackson a pocket

2056
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 4: patch in the AFC Championship Game last year. The team

2057
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 4: that's led the league in rushing for the last twenty

2058
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 4: four months decides we're not gonna run the ball today,

2059
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 4: And it just felt like the team that only had

2060
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 4: I believe four plays over thirty yards if I'm not mistaken,

2061
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 4: and that was twenty eighth in the league. As far

2062
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 4: as they're big plays, they weren't a big play offense.

2063
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 4: But it felt like, Okay, we're at the super Bowl.

2064
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 4: No we're still gonna show people we're a big play offense. Well,

2065
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 4: no you're not, because you weren't all year long forty

2066
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 4: yard plays. I think it was I just think that

2067
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 4: at that time quick slant hitch, there was not a

2068
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 4: screen throw. Where was the wide receiver screen to Xavier Worthy?

2069
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 4: You got the speech there. It felt like they were

2070
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 4: just trying to run him downfield. It felt like they

2071
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 4: were trying to relive what the Chiefs used to be

2072
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 4: instead of what they are now. To me, that's play calling,

2073
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 4: that's adjustments.

2074
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 2: Felt like the first time all year for me watching

2075
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 2: Kansas City that they cared how they won the game.

2076
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 2: Like we talked about this with other programs, but it

2077
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 2: felt like the first time they cared how they won,

2078
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 2: Like it was important that Mahomes got another MVP trophy,

2079
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 2: It was important like that they wanted to highlight him

2080
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: in a way that felt weird when you consider the

2081
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: way that they won games on special teams. They won

2082
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: game getting big time sacks or big time interceptions lat

2083
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 2: in games, and they won games by making last second

2084
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: field goals. They won just about every way you could

2085
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,799
Speaker 2: imagine Kansas City did throughout this entire season.

2086
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: But for whatever reason in this.

2087
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I think, well, I say for whatever reason,

2088
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 2: I think the reason was sitting up there calling color

2089
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 2: for Fox, the idea they were chasing Tom Brady, right,

2090
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 2: the idea of feeling the feeling the pressure of chasing

2091
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 2: a Tom Brady for Patrick Mahomes, feeling the ability to

2092
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 2: do something that Brady has never been able to do.

2093
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 2: And that's a feather that you'll have in your cap forever.

2094
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: Because Brady's not playing anymore. Right, So Brady doesn't even

2095
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to add to his resume. But the

2096
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 2: same way that Brady had the opportunity to add to

2097
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 2: his resume will never take off the fact that in Mahomes'

2098
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: first playoff, Brady sent them home. You know, Brady sent

2099
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: him home in his first Super Bowl, right, So there's

2100
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 2: that juxtaposition.

2101
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 3: I think we saw it way on Mahomes. We saw

2102
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 3: we saw him and Travis Kelsey play a game, and

2103
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 3: we have not seen them play in three years.

2104
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: Now.

2105
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 2: I get everything. They're older, Kelsey's older, he's dating Taylor Swift.

2106
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 3: All that, all that was true two weeks ago. All

2107
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 3: that was true three weeks ago, four weeks ago, even

2108
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 3: six weeks ago.

2109
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 2: Right, So I think that we saw for the first

2110
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 2: time in the longest the Chiefs cared about the style

2111
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 2: in which they won the fight because they really wanted

2112
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 2: Mahomes to get all leave no doubt unturned that Mahomes

2113
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 2: would have been the MVP and all of this of

2114
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 2: the game.

2115
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's essentially how I see it as far as

2116
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 4: wanting to go for deeper plays instead of just calling

2117
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 4: what's going to move the ball? They ran the ball,

2118
01:30:57,960 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 4: and I think it's ian you could check this forward

2119
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 4: eleven rush attempts, I think, and Philly ran in forty three,

2120
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 4: Like Philly literally turns like, no, we're gonna run the football,

2121
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 4: and I e would.

2122
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 3: Think at forty nine yard ye eleven rushing attempts.

2123
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 4: So it's you think about that, like they weren't even

2124
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 4: trying to run the football. They weren't even trying to

2125
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 4: just get small chunk yards here and there. It just

2126
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 4: felt like, no, we're gonna run these deep you know,

2127
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 4: these deep timing, time consuming routes. But your your your

2128
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 4: offensive line is not getting time with a four man rush.

2129
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 4: You gotta call different stuff. Man, you gotta get dink

2130
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 4: and dunk if it is what it is. I mean,

2131
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 4: just this is what you've been doing all year and

2132
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 4: you've been winning a game, So why would you try

2133
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,799
Speaker 4: to change it? Try to change it now. So something's

2134
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 4: definitely got to move in a different direction. Ian and

2135
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 4: I were talking during a commercial break, like, you know,

2136
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 4: they have to redo their wide receiver room, they have

2137
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 4: to redo their tight end room, and they have to

2138
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 4: redo their running back room. The three skill positions on

2139
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 4: offense other than quarterback, they have to do these rooms.

2140
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 4: It's out there that Kelsey is considering retirement. I think

2141
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 4: once you start considering it, you're there.

2142
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 3: You know, even if he.

2143
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 4: Comes back next year, he's not gonna be the same way.

2144
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 4: He also to catches yards, touchdown's gone down the last

2145
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 4: three years.

2146
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 3: It's going back like it's I don't want to say over.

2147
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 4: But hey, man, if you want to just leave with

2148
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 4: and say face, like say, don't get to Super Bowl

2149
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 4: next year, probably you know, okay, I should have just

2150
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 4: left off the loss instead of trying to come back

2151
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 4: and get back. So they have a lot of things

2152
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 4: that got to change. That's got to change. There and

2153
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 4: I'll tell you some of these deals they've signed also

2154
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 4: to it'll be questionable. We know it as an NFL.

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01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 4: You sign a guy and it's great, but the year

2156
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,839
Speaker 4: two goes by and you gotta now allocate money other places,

2157
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 4: and that's when you start to see teams fall apart.

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01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 4: I think if there is a year that they can

2159
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 4: miss the Super Bowl and this run there on, it's

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01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 4: probably most likely twenty twenty five, just off of just

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01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 4: the changes that are gonna have to happen. Now. They

2162
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 4: can go out and get Devonte Adams, right, they can

2163
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 4: they go out and get a big name guy to

2164
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 4: come in and fill in. I don't know who you're

2165
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 4: getting to replace Kelsey right, all time great first Battle,

2166
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer probably, but they definitely have some changes

2167
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 4: that they're gonna have to make moving forward. And I

2168
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 4: think that if there's a year man, not a down year,

2169
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 4: but a year we're not talking about them in the

2170
01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 4: super Bowl, it's probably gonna be twenty twenty five. I

2171
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 4: could even though bouncing back in twenty twenty six as

2172
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 4: they fix maybe some things they think they have holes

2173
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 4: in right now.

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01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 2: So Tom Brady started his Super Bowl arc throwing touchdowns

2175
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 2: to guys like Troy Brown and David Patton, and he

2176
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 2: ended it throwing touchdowns to guys like Rob Gronkowski. Right,

2177
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 2: So the idea that the like we had the debate

2178
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 2: the day before the Super Bowl, which GM was better

2179
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: Brett Veach Hovey Roseman the spoiler alert, they're both really,

2180
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 2: really good. This is going to be just as much

2181
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: on Brett Veach as it is on Patrick Mahomes. They've

2182
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 2: got to be able to turn this thing, renovate the

2183
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 2: house on the low for the cheap right now, because

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01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 2: you're still hosting Christmas dinner coming up. Now, this was

2185
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 2: a staple in the sports landscape. Does it need to

2186
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 2: just go away? We'll get to that in just a minute.

2187
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 2: Martin Wis Vija Husky, Fox Sports Saturday coming to you

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01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 2: Live and the tie rack dot Com Studios. Martin Wiss

2189
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 2: VJ Husky. You can follow us on Twitter at tweet

2190
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 2: the show I'm at Martin Wise VJ at Big Vanilla

2191
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 2: Funny will answer your tweets. Coming up shortly in the

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01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 2: midst of the NBA All Star festivities right now going

2193
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 2: on in San Francisco at the Chase Center. We have

2194
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 2: reached the final round of the Slam Dunk Contest, Stefan

2195
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 2: Castle versus Mac McClung. Let's go around, quick, pick a

2196
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 2: winter everybody.

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01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 4: I guess Matt mccla I don't even I don't even

2198
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 4: know if I even know who who's even in this thing?

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01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 6: Man?

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01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 3: It's Max McClung and Stefan Cassel Mack mclunk for sure.

2201
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 4: Oh, if there's just those two guys left, I'll give

2202
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 4: it them Mat, I'll give it to the time two time,

2203
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 4: back to back dunk guy.

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01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 3: I've got Castle, I've got Castle. I want to be different.

2205
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 3: What's going on?

2206
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 2: I am rooting for Stefan Castle to win the Dunk

2207
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 2: Contest for the simple reason that Mac McClung it should

2208
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 2: be ineligible to be a it is this third time time.

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01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, she should not. He was talking about three peats.

2210
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 3: He should be ineligible for a three. You're trying to deprive,

2211
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 3: trying to deprive us right now. Oh, they can't miss

2212
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 3: NBA All Star weekend festivities. And he just cleared the car, right, Yeah,

2213
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 3: so did Blake Griffin ten years ago.

2214
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no VJ said that he landed on the hood.

2215
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 4: He doesn't clear that car. He lands on that hood.

2216
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 4: Always got ripped for saying it. But he swings and

2217
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 4: his feet land on the hood. He never cleared the car.

2218
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 4: He didn't clear and jump over it. He swings on

2219
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 4: the hood the rim and then when he lets go,

2220
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 4: he lands on the hood of it. So I always thought, well,

2221
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 4: he didn't jump over the car. You have to land

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01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 4: on the other side in my opinion, just for it

2223
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 4: to be considered. He jumped over a car, right.

2224
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 3: So you know why this was better though, because he

2225
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,759
Speaker 3: was in the NBA. You know that's such a chief shot. Ye, yes,

2226
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 3: that was so that's so cheap.

2227
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 2: No, No, in the NBA because they were calling Maxba

2228
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 2: Calim up from Ossiola, Florida or wherever the hell he

2229
01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:57,679
Speaker 2: was playing.

2230
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 3: Better put some respect on that.

2231
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 8: But that is the issue with with with All Star

2232
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 8: Weekend right now, is the fact that the biggest name

2233
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 8: in what used to be the biggest you know contest

2234
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 8: they put on he's a g laker.

2235
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 4: The smart thing back in the day with the dunk

2236
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 4: contest is the star they did it. Do it while

2237
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 4: you're young, like, get it out of the way while

2238
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 4: you still got young legs, young Jordan Dominique, you know,

2239
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 4: even Doctor J. And Doctor J was a little older

2240
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Speaker 4: because remember he was in the ABA with the Virginia

2241
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 4: Squires before he got to the Philadelphia seventy six ers

2242
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 4: and then that's when he did the dunk contest here.

2243
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 4: But he did do an ABA dunk contest with the

2244
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 4: Philadelphia seventy sixth and Virginia Squars also too, one that

2245
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 4: I think Larry Nance won if I'm not mistaken. But

2246
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 4: there's there's I mean, the big name guys just won't

2247
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 4: do it. And that's because I don't know if it's

2248
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 4: failure of law, losing or being ridiculed on social media,

2249
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 4: whatever the case is, but just the big names just

2250
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 4: want to do.

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01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 3: Vince did it, young, Tracy McGrady did it.

2252
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 4: If you go back and remember the Vince Carter dunk contest,

2253
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,520
Speaker 4: which was at the Bay at the where Golden State plays. Ironically,

2254
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 4: that's where they are this weekend. It won't just him.

2255
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 4: Steve Francis and Tracy McGrady were also dunk in the

2256
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 4: ass off that night. Man. It's just that you're going

2257
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 4: to gainst Vince like the guy's putting his arm in

2258
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 4: a rim. And I remember that dunk because we had

2259
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 4: to wait a second, and guys, you can hear the

2260
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 4: commentators laugh like, hold ho, did he just And then

2261
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 4: you're like, okay, did he just stick his arm in

2262
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 4: the rim to show? Yet this is how high I

2263
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 4: can jump. So that just with some of the bigger names.

2264
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 4: But kudos to this kid for taking advantage of it. Man,

2265
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 4: nobody would know him any other way and now we do,

2266
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 4: so I'm not mad at him.

2267
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 2: So with the new NBA All Star format, you think

2268
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 2: this helps hurts indifferent the All Star Game or whatever

2269
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 2: the hell you want to call the All Star festivities

2270
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 2: that would.

2271
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 3: Happen tomorrow thinking different.

2272
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 4: I think the way people feel about it now is

2273
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 4: how they're gonna feel about it. I don't think that

2274
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 4: they could do anything this way, even if they went

2275
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 4: back to East and West and not picking like okay,

2276
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 4: you got this many votes, you got this many votes,

2277
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 4: you got this many votes, and then we're going back

2278
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,759
Speaker 4: to the old way of how we get the reserves.

2279
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 4: Even if they did that, I think it's just too

2280
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 4: far gone for people to care about. And I just

2281
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 4: think it's in. I don't think they're doing anything to

2282
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 4: push more people away, and I don't think they can

2283
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 4: do anything to get.

2284
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 2: People back, So I think the number one thing they

2285
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 2: can do to get people back, Like, I get it

2286
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 2: that Mac mcclun just jumped over a car and it's

2287
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,679
Speaker 2: Stefan Castle just may have I don't know whoever announce

2288
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,879
Speaker 2: the winner of this or you know he's out here doing.

2289
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:27,919
Speaker 3: Novel idea. If you're gonna be doing NBA All Star events,

2290
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 3: they should be done by NBA All Stars. Novel idea.

2291
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 2: But like, why am I watching multiple not the best

2292
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 2: player on their team at All Star weekend?

2293
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 3: The Pro Bowl is not even real anymore.

2294
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 2: I get that, but they still are sending generally the

2295
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 2: best players on their team. Stefan Castle is here simply

2296
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:56,759
Speaker 2: because he is a first year player.

2297
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 3: That is it.

2298
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 2: Victim went Binyama, you know, he might have made that

2299
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 2: Allstar team as whatever. But the point remaining, like these

2300
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 2: guys you're not here because they are so graded basketball,

2301
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 2: which is the kind of the point to.

2302
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 3: Me of the All Star Game.

2303
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 4: I don't mind the lesser known guys in the competition

2304
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 4: skills and stuff like that, because it does give those

2305
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 4: guys a chance. That probably, and especially nowadays where the

2306
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 4: game's not even really marketed, we're more storylines and individual

2307
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 4: players and narratives and what ifs. I think it's more

2308
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 4: marketed than the actual games. Then we don't get a

2309
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 4: chance to see a guy in the skill. I just

2310
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 4: think this, like, I think some of the competitions can

2311
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 4: get better as the guy just trites to do a

2312
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 4: back off the glass to help Stefan Castle and he

2313
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 4: makes the shot.

2314
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 3: Nobody, that's not what you're supposed to do.

2315
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 4: Also, too, I think you got to take people off

2316
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 4: the floor if you can't do the dunk by yourself,

2317
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 4: if you got to jump over a guy, fine, but

2318
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 4: someone else throwing you the ball, I think they I

2319
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 4: think they should eliminate that. But I don't mind some

2320
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,759
Speaker 4: of the lesser known guys getting a shot and getting

2321
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 4: a chance to be seen by the by the rest.

2322
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 3: Of the world. Time for that is the Rising Stars game.

2323
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 4: That's what literally, that's played star that's just played at

2324
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 4: the bad words Tyson Friday, I forgot, I God, I haven't.

2325
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 4: What's the last Rising Stars game that you guys have watched.

2326
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 3: I've never even seen it?

2327
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 8: Okay, I like playing it in two k Okay in

2328
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 8: my player, you make the Rising Stars show.

2329
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 3: Exactly seen it.

2330
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 4: I do I do my player in two K, I

2331
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 4: do my player in every sports game. I was always

2332
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 4: do my player martin last Rising Stars game.

2333
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 3: You watched, oh, before I was in college.

2334
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, two thousand dial up internet probably it

2335
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 2: was around the time, all right, So it's like, it's

2336
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 2: Brandon Knight. When Brandon Knight made DeAndre Jordan fall, and

2337
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 2: then Brandon Knight ended up getting dunked on later that

2338
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 2: game by Andre Drummond. I believe, I may I may

2339
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 2: be even confusing your memories, but Brandon Knight had a

2340
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 2: moment he came down.

2341
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 4: You're thinking of DeAndre Jordan dunking on him when DeAndre

2342
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 4: Jon was a Clipper. When Brandon Knight got slammed like

2343
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 4: he that was in the Rising Stars night. That was

2344
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 4: in a regular game. That was a Pistons game from

2345
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 4: Brandon Knight. Yeah, when Brandon Night got dunked on by

2346
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 4: DeAndre Jordan and he landed like like sideways. Most time

2347
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 4: guys like fall at an angle. He got dunked on

2348
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 4: and landed. That's DeAndre Jordan. You know what, I'm dunking

2349
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 4: on Brandon Night and it's just made him fall. That's

2350
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 4: what it was. I had the time he mixed up.

2351
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 2: I had agree Kyrie made him fall in the Rising

2352
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 2: Stars game, so that would have been I'm ten.

2353
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 4: Years outside of a Rising Stars. It's like I said,

2354
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,679
Speaker 4: it's Friday night. No one it's it's it's a bad night.

2355
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 4: I always thought, I just remember when everything was on

2356
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 4: Saturday night, and that's just it's everything was on Saturday night.

2357
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 4: They had it all on Saturday night, and then they

2358
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 4: all start game on Sunday, and that was it. You

2359
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 4: got the Celebrity game, you got the Rising Stars game.

2360
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 4: It's just it's it's on.

2361
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 3: A bad night.

2362
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 4: Man. No, no one is watching TV on Friday night,

2363
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 4: and there's no more tea gif anymore. There's no more

2364
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 4: family matters and you know those shows on back in

2365
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 4: the day on Friday night. So yeah, it's I don't mind,

2366
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,679
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta showcase in some way, somehow, I feel.

2367
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 5: Like Maximo and this dude jumped over a shock yes

2368
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 5: last year, like fully jumped over shot.

2369
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah you jumped over shot the car. Listen listen him

2370
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 4: jumping over the car tonight. The dude clears the car.

2371
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 4: He doesn't use his hands, he doesn't lift off a

2372
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 4: guy like we've seen guys in dunk contests jump over

2373
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 4: people put their hands on them. To me, you lose

2374
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 4: points on that because you're getting an assistance to get

2375
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 4: that little lyft. I gotta see straight hops. Vince had

2376
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 4: straight bunnies, spud Web had bunnies, Jordan can fly, Kobe

2377
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 4: had bunnies, Tracy had That.

2378
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 3: Was the first year they started.

2379
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:47,919
Speaker 4: They would pause on the replay and show you the vertical,

2380
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 4: and that's when you were seeing guys forty six, forty seven,

2381
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 4: forty five. That's that's a crazy vertical those days, those

2382
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 4: days are going right there, Come on.

2383
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 3: Come on now. And he doesn't touch the guy.

2384
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,719
Speaker 4: He is literally jumping over people and jumping over cars

2385
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 4: without using his hands.

2386
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 3: I can't do nothing but salute the kid. I can't.

2387
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 6: I know more.

2388
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 4: I won't adopt this kid no more. Look at you,

2389
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 4: I mean, just look at the reaction everybody that's there.

2390
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 4: I mean, when you say you won't doubt him anymore,

2391
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 4: doubt him in what regard? Oh, when the first saw him,

2392
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 4: I thought no way. Like my first year two years ago,

2393
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 4: when he first came in, I'm like, they got a

2394
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 4: G league kid in here.

2395
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 3: Who you mean in the contest, you won't doubt him,

2396
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 3: is what you're saying. Yeah, I've never seen a see

2397
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 3: that replay. I've I've never seen him play a game.

2398
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna out like I have. Oh I didn't

2399
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 3: know those two balls, dude, I didn't see that the

2400
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 3: first time. I didn't know.

2401
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,480
Speaker 5: I think as his brother, his friend spinning on a hoverboard.

2402
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just it. That's just crazy.

2403
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2404
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,560
Speaker 4: I mean when I first saw him, know, I'm like,

2405
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 4: who's this kid? And this kid ain't about to do nothing?

2406
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 4: And then he was the first and then last year,

2407
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 4: I ain't about to win back to back, and then

2408
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 4: he wins it again. So every time he's in it,

2409
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 4: that's who my money's on until he loses one.

2410
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,679
Speaker 2: About the six, I haven't bet on mac McClung since

2411
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: he was a Texas Tech red Raider.

2412
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 3: They know he played there, good little I don't you

2413
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 3: know he played there Texas tecond.

2414
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 4: First time I heard of the kid is when they

2415
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 4: said there's gonna be we're gonna choose one G league

2416
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 4: guy to come do to Duncan.

2417
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 2: He's a really good college player, saying Matt McClung, it

2418
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 2: was a bucket in college. He just was the type

2419
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 2: of bucket in college that you can see is not

2420
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 2: going to be a bucket in the pro.

2421
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 5: I just feels like he shows his ass every single time,

2422
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 5: like why not just why is he.

2423
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:23,799
Speaker 3: A g leaguer?

2424
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 4: Because you got to do more than dunkin basketball. You

2425
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta have game. Also see and Clung added

2426
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 4: some artwork to his arms. Yeah, he finished year two

2427
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 4: and three, finished strong term. And there's in, there's in,

2428
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 4: there's and there's also to there's politics that go and

2429
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 4: there's only certain amount of spots Mary in the NBA,

2430
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 4: there's only a certain amount of roster spots everybody.

2431
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of guys in the gle that can

2432
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 3: play right.

2433
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,639
Speaker 4: But you know there there's You build relationships with different coaches,

2434
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 4: you build relationships with different gms, and you get somewhere.

2435
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 4: You're a free agent. Sometimes they sign you just to

2436
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 4: put you on the Trisian Thompson. Isn't he on somebody's here?

2437
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 4: Isn't he on the Cavs again?

2438
01:44:58,880 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Or something?

2439
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 3: A lot of but he was there on those years

2440
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 3: with Lebron.

2441
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 4: He could always call back to them and say, hey,

2442
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 4: look need little help with this cheld support.

2443
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 3: I got going on, can I get it? Can I

2444
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 3: get it?

2445
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 6: Ended?

2446
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 3: The bitch ross?

2447
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 5: Nobody even knows him for real, except for like the

2448
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 5: Kardashian stuff.

2449
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no no no no no no

2450
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 3: no no no no no no no no. I can't.

2451
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 3: I can't let you do that cause I didn't know

2452
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 3: him until he times.

2453
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 2: A lot of our audience was is older than twenty

2454
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 2: one right now, so they have knowledge of when Tristan Towns,

2455
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 2: when Tristan Thompson was winning championships and playing starting an

2456
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 2: NBA finals games.

2457
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 3: I get it if you.

2458
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,600
Speaker 2: Just popped in three years ago, you remember like the

2459
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 2: fallout from the Kardashian trifting at ESPN And now I

2460
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 2: actually just got in a fight a couple of days

2461
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 2: ago in Toronto after dunk King and his last game

2462
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 2: to CAP.

2463
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 3: And then he tweeted afterwards a double this is his city,

2464
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 3: right as his city. Now, I know that that's a lot,

2465
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 3: but ten years ago, trifted Thompson. Let me tell you something.

2466
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 3: It was.

2467
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 4: It was It was a board he get on the

2468
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 4: boards for you. But even back to college, he was

2469
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 4: I believe all all big twelve player at Texas.

2470
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, no, Tristan.

2471
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 4: Used to be a ball and see that's what happens

2472
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 4: when generations coming. It's not your fault. You can't help

2473
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 4: when you're born, but you're coming in on the back end.

2474
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,640
Speaker 4: It's like kids today they see Charles Barkley and what

2475
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 4: you guys don't know is that Dream Team that everybody

2476
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 4: talks about. He's the second best player in that team

2477
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 4: of Michael Jordan. Like he won an MVP, his team

2478
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 4: won sixty something games. He just couldn't be Michael Jordan

2479
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 4: in the finals, like Barkley was a dog. But the

2480
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,600
Speaker 4: Barkley you know, the only Charles Barkley you know is

2481
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 4: the guy sitting on TV.

2482
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 5: Actually I know him because he used to be for Shack.

2483
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 5: That's how the start. Well, no, but from from like

2484
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 5: the basketball and their moms calling each other and stuff

2485
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 5: like that.

2486
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 3: That you learned. You learned that from watching them, say and.

2487
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 2: T shir s mac McClung is doing something with Evan

2488
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 2: Mobley and a stand and I'm gonna let Steve the

2489
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 2: saga update the rest Steve.

2490
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 7: And Charles Barkley was actually the leading scorer on the

2491
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 7: Dream Team.

2492
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 4: There you go, yes, yes, yes, he was absolutely you know,

2493
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 4: sixteen riight they sixteen points.

2494
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,679
Speaker 7: I think it was eighteen points eighteen minutes again because

2495
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:07,639
Speaker 7: I remember nobody was playing full minutes.

2496
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:09,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm sorry, but remember, what do you know

2497
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 4: about Angola? I don't know much about him except four

2498
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 4: day in a lot of trouble and he beat him

2499
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 4: by like eighty or something crazy like that.

2500
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 7: I think that was also the team where one of

2501
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 7: their subs got to get in the game at the

2502
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 7: end and from the court while he's playing defense, he

2503
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 7: yells at his buddy and says, take a picture.

2504
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

2505
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 7: N mac mclung just had his final dunk of the

2506
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 7: Slam Dunk Contest. If it's another fifty, it would be

2507
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 7: four for four in that category and it would give

2508
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 7: him the title again. He is the two time defending champ.

2509
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 7: McClung plays in the G League. He just on the

2510
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 7: previous round had the best dunk of the night. We'll

2511
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,599
Speaker 7: see what the scores come up for this. This ends

2512
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 7: All Star Saturday Night in San Francisco. Earlier, the three

2513
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 7: point contest went to the Heats Tyler Hero. Two time

2514
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 7: defending champ Damian Lillard was eliminated in the first round.

2515
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 7: The skills challenged to Cleveland, beating host Golden State in

2516
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 7: the final. The All Star Game is Sunday night in

2517
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 7: San Francisco, and it is now a fourteen mini tournament.

2518
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 7: Each team tomorrow night will have eight players in college basketball.

2519
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 7: The late game underway at Utah, You's ahead of number

2520
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 7: seventeen Kansas twenty two to seventeen mid first half, Number

2521
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 7: one Auburn a winner at number two ranked Alabama ninety four,

2522
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 7: eighty five victories in the top twenty for Florida and

2523
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 7: duke for Texas, A and M and Iowa State at

2524
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 7: fifth rank Tennessee. The Balls came back to beat Vanderbilt

2525
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 7: eighty one seventy six and number six Houston won at

2526
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 7: thirteenth ranked Arizona sixty two fifty eight, while seventh rank

2527
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 7: Perdue was beaten at home by sixteenth ranked Wisconsin ninety

2528
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,640
Speaker 7: four to eighty four. At Hockey's Four Nations Face Off,

2529
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 7: the US, down one nothing early, is leading against Canada

2530
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 7: in Montreal two to one with about twelve minutes left

2531
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 7: in regulation of this round robin event. Finland today won

2532
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 7: in overtime against Sweden for three. The Dodgers full squad

2533
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 7: workouts at spring training started today Cubs yesterday, Hey, Dodgers

2534
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 7: and Cubs will open the regular season in March in Tokyo.

2535
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 7: A reminder, Sunday's Daytona five hundred TV coverage will start

2536
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 7: an hour early due to the bad weather forecast there.

2537
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 7: The race is due to begin at two pm Eastern

2538
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 7: Time on Fox TV. And it looks like he has

2539
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 7: won it again. Mac McClung, for the third straight year,

2540
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 7: takes the NBA Slam Dunk Contest and it did look

2541
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 7: like a perfect score again in this round, four dunks,

2542
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 7: four perfect scores of fifty from the five judges.

2543
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:30,680
Speaker 3: Back to you.

2544
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 2: So the kid gets one hundred percent. No notes, right,

2545
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 2: has never made a single Everything was perfect, just nasty year.

2546
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 7: Well it wasn't actually, but he got four perfect scores.

2547
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 3: That is accurate. We wonder what's wrong with this? I mean,

2548
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,639
Speaker 3: what are you guys have the problem with the dunks?

2549
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 3: Are the scores? Exceptually every dunk can't be perfect.

2550
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 7: Well, if you hit your foot on the car that

2551
01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 7: you're attempting to leap over, that was a very impress

2552
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 7: If dunk it wasn't perfect, perfect would be you don't

2553
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 7: fall on the landing because you hit your foot on

2554
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 7: the car you're supposed to jump over. Yeah, he was

2555
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 7: very impressive in the last two dunks he earned. He

2556
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 7: earned the trophy.

2557
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, leaping over a seven footer

2558
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 4: without putting his hands Like I said, we've seen Nate

2559
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 4: Robinson did it and people went crazy and I crept

2560
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 4: all over him, like dude, this is not a big

2561
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 4: choosing one hand to lift off of the guy. Like,

2562
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 4: that's not jumping over somebody.

2563
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 3: This guy.

2564
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 4: I just watched this man just go leap over someone

2565
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 4: touched the ball at the rim and then dunk the ball.

2566
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 3: It was very impressive. Yeah, I just like I said,

2567
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 3: I just leaping.

2568
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 7: Over shack er. You know crops that have been used

2569
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 7: to right. But then again, this isn't a very tall guy.

2570
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 2: Magmcluk No, I'll tell you I had hand up. Bad

2571
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 2: job by me as a sports talk radio host. The

2572
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 2: Four Nations face off did not hit my radar until

2573
01:50:58,280 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 2: about a week and a.

2574
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:03,839
Speaker 7: Half ago, and I'm just taking place for the NHL

2575
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 7: All start taking place in the NFL NHL All Star Game.

2576
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 3: After this, I can't tell.

2577
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 10: You what the NFL All Star Game looked like last year,

2578
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 10: year before, year before, that are literally ever in history.

2579
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 10: But I noticed today on February fifteenth, at ten thirty Eastern,

2580
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 10: give me the four nation's face off over this slam

2581
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 10: dunk foolishness. These guys out here fighting, these guys out

2582
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 10: here hitting, they're playing reality.

2583
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 7: It's to your point earlier, this is best against best

2584
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:33,480
Speaker 7: on the ice. We're not seeing all of the NBA's

2585
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 7: best tonight. As entertaining as this may be.

2586
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 3: We don't get to see rising stars Canada play.

2587
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 7: Team Chris Mullen tomorrow night is in the All Star Game.

2588
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,640
Speaker 4: Let me ask you questions, Steve, What why? How we

2589
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 4: gotten here to where? Like you said, we're watching this

2590
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 4: hockey game.

2591
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 7: People getting paid fight and they care less. If people

2592
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 7: stop getting paid, they start to care.

2593
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2594
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 4: I always always felt guaranteed contracts in the NBA, And

2595
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 4: when I was a barber back in Virginia twenty years

2596
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 4: I used to say this stuff during barber tals. I

2597
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 4: used to tell people, man, it's gonna be the death

2598
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 4: of his league if you if you're guaranteeing someone their

2599
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 4: money and they don't have to improve, right.

2600
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:13,719
Speaker 7: But it's even worse when people can engineer a buyout

2601
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 7: still get the money right, and then pick the next.

2602
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 4: And then picked their next year, and they even get

2603
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 4: another contract right, another absorbent contract. But I just always

2604
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 4: felt with the NBA guaranteed contract like guarantee, but where's

2605
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 4: the You gotta be cut a certain way to want

2606
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 4: to be better, right, to want to be great, because

2607
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 4: if you know you're getting your money like right now,

2608
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 4: like you're there, in my opinion, best update guy in

2609
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 4: his business. But if you knew you could miss four

2610
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 4: straight days and your check and your check would still

2611
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 4: be there, right.

2612
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 3: Would you? You'd probably take those four days.

2613
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 4: From time to time. But it doesn't make you you're

2614
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:43,839
Speaker 4: not improving.

2615
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 7: It's like when Magic Johnson came into the league and

2616
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,640
Speaker 7: he was already a champion in his first year at

2617
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 7: an all start pretty much every year and he kept

2618
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 7: working on his game every year. Yeah, yeah, I will

2619
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 7: say there's one added aspect that the NHL has hit

2620
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:00,479
Speaker 7: on that makes this a great event for this next

2621
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 7: well few days until the Thursday final of this round

2622
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 7: robin event. It's national teams. It's best against best, and

2623
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 7: there's a national fervor that brings out the best in

2624
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 7: sports in general. I mean, the World Cup is a

2625
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 7: superb event, and that's one of the reasons people that

2626
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 7: don't watch a lot of soccer for twelve months will

2627
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 7: watch what they get from the World Cup. What we

2628
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 7: saw a year ago with the World Baseball Classic was sensation.

2629
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 7: I mean, the stadiums, including in Miami, we're I mean

2630
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 7: and Arizona also, we're just packed and at a fever

2631
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 7: pitch and the games were.

2632
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 4: Great and comes down to who most people consider the time,

2633
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 4: the league's best pitcher against the league's best hitter. Yeah right,

2634
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 4: that's the best, best against best. And that's what I

2635
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 4: think we're missing. And it's been like this for it

2636
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 4: for a while.

2637
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 7: So even if they do internationals NBA against Americans NBA

2638
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 7: and that kind of all star matchup, which has been

2639
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 7: talked to, it's at least on the path to that.

2640
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 3: It's not quite like I'd watch that.

2641
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, watch, I'd watch now next if Dan els you

2642
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 4: know what, we're going international versus USA, like the USA

2643
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 4: versus the world NBA. So I'm all, Ki, yeah, yeah,

2644
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 4: I'm all this, can't pick your team if you're international,

2645
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're domestic.

2646
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 3: This is where Yeah, I like that.

2647
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 7: Even golf with the Ryder Cup gets good attention Dan

2648
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 7: with what's normally not.

2649
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 2: That kind of crowd. Honestly, I don't do this for

2650
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 2: a lot of things in the NBA. I blame Lebron

2651
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 2: for the All Star Game. I really do. I think

2652
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 2: that when you are the best player in the league

2653
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 2: for so long, you have an obligation to be a

2654
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 2: steward of the league. The idea that he's never under

2655
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 2: dunk contest, to me, is laughable. As a guy who

2656
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 2: has been the face of the league for the longest time,

2657
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 2: the idea that he's in the all his All Star

2658
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 2: career has a drinking It's twenty one All Star appearances

2659
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 2: in a row. He should have been the guy leading

2660
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 2: the charge for this about eight nine years ago and

2661
01:54:58,720 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 2: we wouldn't be where we are.

2662
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 7: Well when he came into the league, recall that he

2663
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 7: said what he wants to be is a global icon

2664
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 7: that's been accomplished. Sure, what you're asking for was somewhere

2665
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 7: on the list, but it wasn't at the top.

2666
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we will do a quick look into

2667
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 2: San Francisco, but the football side of things, and of

2668
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 2: course by this time next week, shortly after the show

2669
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 2: hour podcast, we'll go up if you missed any of

2670
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 2: today's show, be sure to check out there podcast this

2671
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get any of your

2672
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 2: podcast might and be sure to follow, rate and review

2673
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2674
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 3: Again.

2675
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio where you get yours podcasts,

2676
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 2: and you'll see this show posted right after we get

2677
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 2: off the air. Comeing to your life at the Tireck

2678
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 2: dot com studios, keeping the seats warm for Aaron Torres

2679
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 2: and Jason Martin. Coming up next, It's Martin Weiss and

2680
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 2: VJ Husky VJA.

2681
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 3: Real quick.

2682
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 2: I know we will do this time next week in

2683
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 2: about two minutes, but I want to take thirty seconds

2684
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 2: here and spend some time on Aaron Rodgers, who is

2685
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 2: not going to be a New York Jet upcoming.

2686
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 3: There was one team that kind of jump out in

2687
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 3: the odds.

2688
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 2: The third favorite right now, the San Francisco forty nine ers.

2689
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 2: Quick question, You're Kyle Shanahan, Jed York, John Lynching the

2690
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 2: powers that be? Would you be all in on Aaron

2691
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 2: Rodgers for the next two seasons? Are all in on

2692
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 2: Brock Party for the next five at a Dak Prescott,

2693
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence level contract.

2694
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 4: Brock Perty for five at that level contract simply because

2695
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 4: if you go in on Rogers, all right, cool, next

2696
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 4: two years. I don't think they're gonna look much better

2697
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 4: than what they looked in in MetLife. So now when

2698
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 4: he's gone, what do you do? Because Brock's not gonna

2699
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 4: stick around. Brock's gonna leave because you can't give him

2700
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 4: a half ass contract.

2701
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 3: I won't take it. I'm always a free agency. I'm out.

2702
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 4: If you want this guy to come in and no,

2703
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 4: you gotta have some type of some type of gray

2704
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 4: foods man down just like, Hey, I'm the guy here.

2705
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 3: Now.

2706
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 4: You guys want to bring this old ass in and

2707
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 4: sit me aside, no pay me. So if i'm them, yeah,

2708
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 4: it might be a fun little conversation. He's from the area.

2709
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is a Cali guy who went to cal He's.

2710
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 3: From the area.

2711
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 4: I you know, but go with you know, go what

2712
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 4: you have move on with Deebo, which I spoke about

2713
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 4: earlier this year during the season. I told you guy

2714
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 4: to look out for that story. Look out for them

2715
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 4: thinking about making some moves with Debo. They've given him

2716
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 4: granted to secret trade. They're looking for trade. Told his

2717
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 4: agent's starting to move some things around there bringing Aaron

2718
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 4: Rodgers in guys to this team. No, I brock Pertty

2719
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 4: is your guy. You gotta pay the quarterbacks guys. Not

2720
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 4: saying he gets Dak sixty million, but it was the

2721
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 4: same thing I was saying about tour right. I didn't

2722
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 4: think toour should have been the highest paid guy or

2723
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 4: the second, the third highest paid guy. I like that

2724
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 4: about fifty one fifty three million. Do keep it in

2725
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 4: the forties. No one's getting paid in the forties. It's

2726
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 4: gotta be like fifty three enough. I think Brocket fifty

2727
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 4: two fifty three. I think he can get a good

2728
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 4: deal done. They're fifty four probably at the top. But

2729
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 4: he's not getting sixty I'm not paying brock pretty sixty million.

2730
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 4: He's not that guy. He doesn't deserve top money. I

2731
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 4: think he's smart enough in his agent's smart enough too.

2732
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 4: And if anybody's gonna give that money, it's fifty I'm

2733
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 4: talking about. It's gonna be the nine. There's no other team.

2734
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 4: I don't think I'll do it, so they'd be better

2735
01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 4: suit it five years.

2736
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 3: Brock perky.

2737
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 2: If i'm them, sign me up for seventeen games, Aaron Rodgers,

2738
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 2: it gets me out of having to pay brock Purty

2739
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 2: big money. Look at the other teams that have paid

2740
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 2: their big money quarterback big money. They're sitting at home

2741
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 2: like except for the Lions, who again had a stacked

2742
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 2: roster right and then had to deal with those injuries.

2743
01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 2: But Cowboys, it's home, Miami, home like. But either way,

2744
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 2: it's time now for By this time next week, go ahead, VJ.

2745
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 4: By this time next week, the Dolphins will be rumored

2746
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 4: to be signing to make a move for a receiver.

2747
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 4: A couple of names I got in my mind. I'll

2748
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 4: keep to myself. But then talking about also moving on

2749
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 4: from Tyreek Hill. You saw him have to do his

2750
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 4: apology tour during Super Bowl Week. Didn't like it. I

2751
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 4: love Riek, everybody knows that. But you shouldn't have just

2752
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 4: said what you said at Homie. Now that do you

2753
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 4: want to apologize for it? I think they need to

2754
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 4: move on point, get that money, get some other pieces

2755
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 4: for the Dolphins.

2756
01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 2: By this time next week, the New Orleans Saints will

2757
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 2: finally have finished their coach. It was told that our

2758
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 2: coaching staff finalists will finally be finalized.

2759
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 3: Took forever.

2760
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Mickey loom Is saying the reason why it took so

2761
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 2: long to hire a head coach is because the Eagles

2762
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 2: kept winning.

2763
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 3: HM.

2764
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 2: That doesn't drive with Cliffs Kingsbury or Mike McCarthy, but

2765
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 2: neither way either. Here though, the Eagles, I mean this

2766
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 2: Eagles former offensive coordinator will be done hiring a staff.

2767
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 3: That team's gonna stink.

2768
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 4: By this time next week, we will be hearing people

2769
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 4: trying to decide whether you should sign Aaron Rodgers or

2770
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 4: Sam Darnald.

2771
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:32,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's you might hear that by Monday

2772
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 2: of next week. Absolutely, And just for the record, my

2773
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 2: answer would be Sam Darnald. But they're gonna see by

2774
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 2: this time next week, Aaron Rodgers essentially verse every single

2775
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 2: starting quarterback that's up for drabs, and you'll see somebody

2776
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 2: convince themselves that it'll work. It'll work in Indie, it'll

2777
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,720
Speaker 2: work in Vegas, It'll work here, work there. Somebody will

2778
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 2: convince themselves of it happening.

2779
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 4: By this time next week, we will start to fall

2780
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 4: out of the love fence with this Luca move. I

2781
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 4: think that this thing is gonna go south a little bit.

2782
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 4: Lucas still looks oude of shape. I know people think, oh,

2783
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 4: he's got Andrew and he can get back in it.

2784
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 4: But I think the love affairs over that.

2785
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:07,440
Speaker 2: Mark williamstraight getting rescinded really really changed.

2786
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:10,160
Speaker 3: God bless everybody, have a great weekend. They starting up

2787
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 3: next