1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Get your heads together and we're going to start to 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: party and start party. I'm reading a party. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: The Elvis Duran After Party. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: It's the after Party Podcast. Best Nay Yeah, Yes, Welcome 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: to the After Party Podcast. Gandhi is here and there's Scary. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm Danielle straight in eight Scotti Bee. Hey there you 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: do so my really good friend Vienna. He lives down 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: in Tanzania in Africa, and he is a safari operator. 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: He's a tour guide and he's doing so well with 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: his business down there. He's been on our show many times. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: We love Vienna, yep. And he talks about what it's 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: like to go on safari, which Alex and I have 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: done many times. We love it and everyone should do 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: it and everyone can can do it. It's not like 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: this multi ka billion dollar thing to pay for and 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: go do. We find ways to make it happen for you, 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: and Vienna is great at doing that. So anyway, our 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: listener Karen from Ohio is on. Hi, Karen, how are 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: you doing today? 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: Good morning? I'm great. How are you? 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: We're doing so fine? So fine. So you got to 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: meet my good friend Vienna and you went on on 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: safari in Tanzania. 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: Yes, we did eight days and we just got back Sunday. 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Oh eight days. That's that is good and juicy. So 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: did you did you do it? Intent? Did you? Were 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: you on the migration trail or explain what you were doing? 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: We did. We started off in Arusha, stayed in the 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 3: hotel there, which was like five stars and absolutely beautiful. 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: Next day we went to a different migration camp for 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: Trenier National Park, and then to a new one the 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: following day for Nigura gro Crater, and then we went 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: to the Serengetti and then we spent four nights at 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: the migration camp. 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Wow, look at you. Yes, the and Girl crater is 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: very interesting. Uh, it's very controlled because whence they say, 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, we have an elephant out here on 38 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Asle four. I mean five thousand trucks run to it. Wow, 39 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: and it's good. It's beautiful, right, But once you go 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: out into the Sengetti you are in wide open spaces, right, Karen, 41 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: I prefer the Serena absolutely crater. How about you? 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: We went early to the crater. We left to get 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: there right when the gates opened, purposely so there was 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: less traffic, so we didn't really have that problem and 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: we managed to like hit the Big five in a day. Wow, 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: by chance. 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Good for you. 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was fantastic. 49 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Was this your first time on the Serengetti or on safari? 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes? And I only went because of the time 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: you had Vienna on and said, you know, if you 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: think this is not possible to do, please look into 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: it because there's different levels of travel and you you 54 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 3: might be surprised that you can afford to do it. 55 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: And I would have never looked into it if it 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: wasn't for you guys. And so we went, me and 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: my kids they're eleven and fourteen. 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Wow. 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: And I one day I heard's interview, I knew I 60 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 3: needed him to be our guide. And when I met him, 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: and after week with him, I totally understand what you 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: saw in him and to give him that opportunity to grow. 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: And he he glows when he tells your story about 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: how he met you and how organic it was, and 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: it was just like a full circle thing. We my 66 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: son and I both cried when we left the park 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: because it was just like a dream come true, full 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: circle thing. 69 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: Well, to be able to take your kids on safari 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: in Africa amazing in Vienna. He's always in my heart. 71 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: He's the most beautiful human being. Were what we were 72 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: anticipation your anticipation thoughts going in? What were you expecting 73 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: versus what you actually experienced when you were on safari? 74 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: You know, I think you expect to see certain animals. 75 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: There were others I had no idea, like about all 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: the birds and the monkeys and even hippos. I didn't 77 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: realize we would see. I think I expected to be 78 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: covered in mosquitoes the whole time and it wasn't the 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: case at all, and to be hot, and it's winter 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: there now, so the weather was perfect. You're never sure 81 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: what to expect from like platform tent camping, but it 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: was like luxury hotels on platforms. It was so And 83 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: the food, the food was just all organic, farmed a table. 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: It was absolutely way more than I ever could have 85 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: asked for. Did you have a favorite moment on safari 86 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: where you were like, Wow, this is something that's a 87 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: tough one. There's so many We drove up on a 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: group of about five lion cubs and the mail was 89 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: laying down at the bottom and we were probably twelve 90 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: feet from them, and we just sat there for probably 91 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: forty five minutes and watched them play and sleep and 92 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: it was like magic. Yeah, and then just to know 93 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 3: that they're where they belong and not in a cage 94 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: or you know, it was just really beautiful. 95 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: Okay. 96 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: I have a question of several we've talked about going 97 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: on Safario on the show, but what is the preparation? 98 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: Like how many shots did you have to get? Were 99 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: you taking quinine pills? Malaria pills? Malaria pills? 100 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: We did take the pills. We did not need any 101 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: shots because we didn't do any layovers in any African countries. 102 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: We went through Doha, so if you go through Middle 103 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: Eastern countries and from London, we didn't need any shots 104 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: at all. So that was great. I figured we would 105 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: need shots, but yeah, just the malaria pills. We didn't 106 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: even wear like off bug spray or anything. It was 107 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: really way different than I thought it was. 108 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: What's the safety briefing? 109 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: Like, well, when you go to the bathroom at night, right, 110 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: it's like, all right, you may encounter a hip hole, 111 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: well your bathroom, bathroom in it probably. 112 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, But when we did get taken to dinner, 113 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: they asked that you call and have someone escort you. 114 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: And at one of the camps, we did have somebody 115 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: escort us that had a spear and we did ask 116 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: him if he had to use it. He did not 117 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: speak very much English, and so he just kind of 118 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: laughed and said spear and then he said lion and hyena, 119 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: and I don't know if that meant he had to 120 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: use it. So that was a little unsettling, but he 121 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: seemed very confident, so it was fine. 122 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: Just one. 123 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, there was one night, Karen, we were sitting 124 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: at the mess tent, which is a beautiful tent with 125 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: with Asian rugs everywhere and a bar set up and 126 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: it's beautiful. By the way, we're having dinner, but it 127 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: was nothing but darkness in front of us and behind us. 128 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: And in front of us we heard uh lions and 129 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: the lion roar is loud, and then behind us we 130 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: heard hyenas. 131 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: Yes, you were dinner. 132 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Essentially, Well, they get along unless they can't. It's scar 133 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: and move on. 134 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: This get along. 135 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: But that's just what you're doing. You're you're on their territory. 136 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: They're not on yours, you know. 137 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the one morning we didn't have water going to 138 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: our tent because an elephant had kicked the pipe during 139 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: the night. And it doesn't even sound real that that happened, 140 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: but that's really what happened. So they were right behind us. 141 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: Well, that happens here in Manhattan all the time. 142 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: I'm sure. 143 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: Were there certain colors they told you not to wear? 144 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: They did, but most people apparently don't go by that. 145 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: I did. I bought us all like kind of khaki 146 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: and olive colors, and I guess white and black are 147 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: more attractive to the mosquitoes. But I don't know. If 148 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: I went back, I don't think i'd be quite as strict. 149 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: Gray seems to be okay. Other people were wearing pink 150 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: and black, and you know, so I just went with 151 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: the list. He sent us a packing list. We only 152 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: had like one small backpack that we could carry on 153 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: the plane for each of us, and that's all we needed. 154 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna wear red. 155 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't dress like an Impala or anything like that. 156 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: Did you see the always elusive dick? 157 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: We did, We did, We talked. We saw two small. 158 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Dipts, So I guess if you saw two small dictates, 159 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: that's right. 160 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: And my kids just thought that was absolutely hilarious. 161 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm an old kids. 162 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, me too. 163 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: But Carrie, you know a lot of people thinking I'm 164 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: never going to do that ever, because those lions are tires, 165 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: diggers and bears will kill me. Well there's no there's 166 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: no bears. There don't there's tigers either anyway. But it 167 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: really is an amazing thing. Stay on the truck and 168 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: you're safe. You're gonna be okay. Yeah, but once you 169 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: get off. 170 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: That truck, I never felt unsafe. 171 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, once you get off the truck, your lunch. And 172 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: so in Vienna. How amazing of a sweetheart is he. 173 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: Really absolutely incredible, his integrity and his standards, like just 174 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: show through. I actually left my batteries for my camera, 175 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: my good camera at home on my kitchen counter charging 176 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: and he managed to get me one in a day. 177 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: So he makes things happenless, you know, it's incredible. And 178 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: he was great with my kids because you know, they 179 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: can be kind of restless at times and he has 180 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: kids that are about those ages and he just said, 181 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: you know, just let him be and it kind of 182 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,119 Speaker 3: took a weight off my shoulders and he was wonderful. 183 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: Really optional Saren, he will be your friend for life 184 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: and you will go back to see him. I think 185 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: we're going to go back soon too. And everyone, anyone, 186 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: you gotta get in touch with my friend VNA, dropping 187 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: him a d M at what is his. 188 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: Instagram's Untamed Adventures Expedition Expedition. 189 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: There you go, and Karen, thank you for coming on 190 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: with us. I'm so glad you made it home safe 191 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: and sound with that because you weren't eaten by Dick. 192 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: I was not. 193 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: I'll see you on the Serenghetta. You have a beautiful day. 194 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. 195 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: To the Elvis Duran after party