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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, welcome back to another NFL episode of the

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Speaker 2: Action Network Podcast. I'm Matthew Friedman, the editor in chief

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Speaker 2: of Fantasy Labs. Today we are highlighting our favorite season

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Speaker 2: long player props for the twenty nineteen NFL season. This

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Speaker 2: is one of my favorite episodes of the year. Last

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Speaker 2: year's episode was a lot of fun and very profitable,

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Speaker 2: and it was profitable because of the guy with me,

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Speaker 2: Sean Corner, our director Predictive Analytics and one of the

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Speaker 2: top end season fantasy football rankers for the past half decade. Sean,

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Speaker 2: how excited are you for this episode?

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Speaker 3: Super exciting? You said this is one of your favorite

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Speaker 3: episodes of the year. This is my favorite, so number one.

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Speaker 3: And then you know we have a great guest today,

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Speaker 3: which you know I'm even more excited about so this

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Speaker 3: should be really really fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, joining us is Mike Clay a media personality. He

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Speaker 2: is on the Daily Wager on ESPN two. But then,

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Speaker 2: more importantly, I would say, especially for our purposes, he

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Speaker 2: is an NFL prognosticator who creates all sorts of player

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Speaker 2: and team projections each year. He is one of the

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Speaker 2: best in the business and that is why he is here. Mike,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you call me a media personality? I feel

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Speaker 1: like nerd would be more appropriate. Just go with a

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Speaker 1: straight up football nerd or nerd in general. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a more accurate description.

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Speaker 2: For all of us. I think that would actually be

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Speaker 2: a term of endearment, you know, like no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I would never dare to call someone

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Speaker 2: else a nerd. But I never have the temerity to

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Speaker 2: do that. But you can call yourself that and I

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Speaker 2: would not disagree with you. Before we dive into your

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Speaker 2: favorite player props for this season, I would like to

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Speaker 2: get some insight into your projection process. What are the

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Speaker 2: stats you prioritize. How is it that you kind of

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Speaker 2: go about each season creating your projections?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that could be a podcast in itself, right,

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Speaker 1: I Mean, there's just so much to it. It starts

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Speaker 1: on so many different levels. I mean essentially starts to

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Speaker 1: zero and you look at league wide trends, team trends,

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Speaker 1: coordinator trends, coaches, players. I mean, I'm kind of starting

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Speaker 1: by analyzing all of those different areas, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it kind of kind of merges together at the end.

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Speaker 1: I mean, certainly a lot of statistical analysis. There's a

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Speaker 1: there's something I always say is there has to be

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Speaker 1: that sort of subjective nature to it, right. I Mean,

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Speaker 1: you want to be as objective as possible, but when

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Speaker 1: it comes down to it, it's you can't just use

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Speaker 1: so many moving parts. So I think as we talk

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Speaker 2: Right, Mark Gallant wrote a piece for The Action Network

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Speaker 2: in which he highlighted the massive edge embedding the under

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Speaker 2: on season long player props over the past two seasons.

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Speaker 2: So in twenty seventeen seventy one point two percent of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting for sure. I'm not sure if you

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Speaker 1: know the books have adjusted to that. I know that. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm conservative with my lines, right like, I don't I

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Speaker 2: Over Sean, What are your thoughts on this trend? I mean,

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Speaker 2: from a kind of perspective of psychology, it makes sense

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I take that in consideration. I think

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Speaker 3: I definitely ended up with, you know, probably eighty percent

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Speaker 3: I put a lot of thought into these, so typically

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Speaker 2: All right, Mike and Sean, both of you have your

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Speaker 2: We're going to go through them in reverse order and alternating.

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Speaker 2: So Mike, give us your tenth favorite player prop this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go to the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not, there's not a ton of those

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Speaker 1: edge rusher, Josh Allen and Jacksonville the line here six

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Speaker 1: you look at Allen's role here, He's not going to

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Speaker 2: I totally love this prop. Looking at some of the

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Speaker 2: others that you have, I don't know for me, this

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Speaker 3: So my tenth favorite would be Matt Ryan under thirty

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Speaker 3: Matt Ryan, if I were to teach like a stats class,

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Speaker 3: Matt Ryan's career game log would be a perfect regression

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Speaker 3: though we don't really have that many outs when it

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Speaker 3: comes to miss games due to injury. He's he's pretty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to imagine him missing a game if

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Speaker 3: It might be, you know, the offensive line being pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we saw the last preseason game. Who's getting

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Speaker 3: killed back there, So never want to root for an injury,

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Speaker 3: but that's that's something that he's never really had happened.

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Speaker 3: So I do like the under here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm even a little more optimistic than

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Speaker 2: you are on this one. I haven't projected for around

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Speaker 2: thirty a little over thirty, so a little more room

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Speaker 2: for leeway there. Mike number nine, you are also going

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Speaker 1: I am, at first of all, sorry, Sean, I didn't

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Speaker 3: So next up? I have Nick Chubb getting the most

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Speaker 3: and the favorite for this market. But I just think

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Speaker 3: getting Chubb at twenty to one, especially, you know, the

436
00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,000
Speaker 3: Browns should have a lot more positive game scripts this

437
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 3: year where you know they're gonna run a lot more.

438
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,400
Speaker 3: Getting rid of Duke Johnson should help, you know, Chubb

439
00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,639
Speaker 3: might be more involved in the passing game. But you know,

440
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,960
Speaker 3: I think cream Hunt comes back. Hunt's probably going to

441
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 3: spell them more in the passing game. There's too many

442
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,399
Speaker 3: outs for Chubb to kind of hit this market at

443
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,159
Speaker 3: twenty to one. So I'm loving this one and a

444
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Speaker 3: lot and wondering if you guys think I'm crazy.

445
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, what do you think about this?

446
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,160
Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're crazy. I have him fourth

447
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm probably and I'm like in fantasy circles,

448
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm low on Chubb right so, you know a lot

449
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,399
Speaker 1: of people want to take him maybe at the you know,

450
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,679
Speaker 1: round two. I'm more like round three for me, or

451
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 1: in the round two, because I do think cream Hunt's

452
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 1: going to play a pretty substantial amount in the second half,

453
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Speaker 1: especially with Duke Johnson gone. That's all, you know, that's

454
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Speaker 1: the indication that I've had the problem I have with

455
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 1: Chubb and again at twenty to one, it's fine, but

456
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 1: you know I have him what I have him like

457
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 1: thirty to forty carries behind guys like Derrick Henry and

458
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 1: is Saquon Barkley and certainly Zeke assuming he's back for

459
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen plus games. And actually I didn't you know,

460
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 1: I was wondering Seawan. You mentioned Barkley should be the favorite?

461
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 3: Here?

462
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 1: Are you assuming Zeke missus time? Is that because that

463
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 1: we think Zeke's not signed right now? Or either way,

464
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 1: do you like barkleycause say I would I would go

465
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 1: to Zeke for this?

466
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, So to be fair, right now, I'm giving

467
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 3: Zeke about a game and a half missed for the holdout.

468
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to assess, you know, sort of the risk.

469
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, if Zeke were to be you know, in

470
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 3: his holdout today, I would definitely, I just updated it.

471
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 3: I would have Zeke about one hundred yards ahead of Barkley.

472
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree. If Zeke is announced, you know,

473
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: starting week one, he should be the clear favorite. But

474
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 3: you know, a market like this, we're just taking advantage

475
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Speaker 3: of ceiling, So I think it is fair to kind

476
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 3: of factor in Zeke's risk into this market because game

477
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: or two miss is going to be huge for this market.

478
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. I'm with you. I'm about

479
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: a hundred almost exactly one hundred yards Zeke over Barkley.

480
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: So or on the same page.

481
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 2: All right, Mike number five, you have Leyton Vandersh. What

482
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on him?

483
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one, I'm not even joking. I like check

484
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 1: with Caesars because I wasn't sure if they accidentally meant

485
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: like solo tackles or something, because I was kind of

486
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: blown away by this line. So it's one hundred and

487
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 1: twenty three and a half combined tackles for Van der Esh.

488
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. He had one hundre and forty tackles

489
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: last year and he was playing seventy eight percent of

490
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: the defensive snaps. I mean there was times where he

491
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: was off the field because Sean Lee was healthy and

492
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: you know, we saw kind of a changing of the

493
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: guard in the playoffs. Right, So Vanderresh played one hundred

494
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: and five snaps only twenty four for Lee. Lee is back,

495
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: but he's expected to be the three. Vander Esh was

496
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: just too good to keep off the field. So we

497
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: should expect him and Jalen Smith to be the primary guys.

498
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 1: I do think his snaps will be higher this year,

499
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: and he's going to have a terrific opportunity for tackles.

500
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you're wondering if maybe that

501
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: number was a fluke, and you know it's not maybe

502
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: a terribly hard number to get to, well, you know,

503
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: I look back at a league history. This isn't just

504
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: linebackers or edg Rusher. I mean, it's safeties. It's all

505
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 1: defensive players that have been drafted in NFL history. Well,

506
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,479
Speaker 1: Vander esh sits eleventh on that list for tackles as

507
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: a rookie. And just for you know, to kind of

508
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 1: really drive this home, I'm going to list you the

509
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 1: other players on this list, the guys ahead of him,

510
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Willis, Luke Keigley, Darius Leonard, Chico Alonso, Tamiko Ryan

511
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: Zach Thomas, Chris Pielman, CJ. Moseley, Ralf Freeman, and Dwayne Bikett.

512
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: I mean, talk about a list of linebackers right there.

513
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: For my interest, now eleven on that list. I think

514
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: this guy is the real deal. You know, at one

515
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three and a half combined tackles again,

516
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: already had one forty last year. I think he will

517
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: clear this number with EA's barring disaster.

518
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think wouldn't This prop will essentially be over

519
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: under thirteen games played for him, Yeah, I think so.

520
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, It's funny because I read this. I misread

521
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: this on the out line. I thought it was one

522
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three solo tackles. That's that's how I

523
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: read this. It's funny that we kind of have the

524
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: same thought. But yeah, this is a wonderful prop right here.

525
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: And I wish I were in Vegas so that I

526
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Speaker 2: could bet this. Sean, what do you have for us?

527
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: At number five?

528
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: This is my last most yards prop, but it's my

529
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 3: favorite one. It's Jamis Winston most passing yards at twelve

530
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: to one. Again, I really can't get much action down

531
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Speaker 3: at books for these props, so these are the best

532
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 3: way for me to get, you know, some bang for

533
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: my buck at the end of the year. You know,

534
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 3: the Bucks led the league and pass last year, so

535
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 3: this isn't some crazy stretch of the imagination. And Winston's

536
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: the perfect, you know, high ceiling, low floor type of guy.

537
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 3: That you know, would be advantageous in a market like this,

538
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: So I love taking his ceiling here. The defense should

539
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: still be below average, the running game should still be poor.

540
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: You know, there's no more Ryan Fitzpatrick or Dirt Cutter,

541
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: so we're not as afraid of him getting benched. So

542
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Speaker 3: I think if he plays all sixteen games, I would

543
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Speaker 3: think that he should be closer to something like six

544
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 3: or seven to one for this. So I'm loving him

545
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: at total to one. And like I said, I'm already

546
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Speaker 3: taking Chris Godin at one hundred to one. So you know,

547
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 3: both of these are kind of correlated. So if one hits,

548
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: the others even more likely to hit. So I love

549
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Speaker 3: taking both of these.

550
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Speaker 2: You know. And I've actually seen this at fifteen to

551
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Speaker 2: one around the market, so obviously people be sure to

552
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Speaker 2: check around different books and price shop find the best

553
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: line that you can. Mike, what do you think about Winston?

554
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Speaker 1: I like it. I actually have him about. I factored

555
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: in a little bit of risk for a benching or

556
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: miss time. You know, obviously last year he was benched,

557
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: he was suspended. You know, at times He's injuries haven't

558
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: been a major problem, but you know, he was running

559
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 1: the ball more last season, so we have to consider

560
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: that as well. So I have him closer to fifteen

561
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: games played, whereas most quarterbacks that have been able to

562
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: stay on the field are closer to, you know, almost

563
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: almost a full season. And I still have wins fifth

564
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: in the league in passing, about four hundred yards off

565
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: the lead. So you know, with those odds, I'm fine

566
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Speaker 1: with it. I think it's a terrific bet. And if

567
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: he holds up for the whole season and gets the

568
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: cuts down the interceptions, he can definitely hit.

569
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597
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: are in the top five. I love this next prop

598
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 2: that you have coming as Josh Jacobs. What are your

599
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: thoughts with him at number five?

600
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in on Josh Jacobs. I mean, you just

601
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: look back at first round running backs and their success

602
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: in this league over the past decade, and it's kind

603
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: of it's kind of crazy. It's really hard to believe.

604
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: In fact, if you look at the eleven running backs

605
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: selected in the first round from twenty twelve to twenty eighteen,

606
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: so the most recent eleven prior to Josh Jacobs, the

607
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 1: average rushing yard and showtal the average for those eleven

608
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: was nine hundred and thirty three point eight yards. That

609
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: in itself is above this nine to oh seven point

610
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: five line. And by the way, that line guys includes

611
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: guys like David Wilson who barely played. It includes Christian

612
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: McCaffrey who was sharing that back then. You know, he

613
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: was mostly a receiver as a rookie. It includes Melvin

614
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: Gordon who missed some time with an injury and was

615
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: sharing with I believe it was Danny Woodhead at that point.

616
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: So I think he's set up very nicely. He's going

617
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: to be the primary ball carrier here. You're gonna Jalen

618
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: Rashard chipping in as a pass catcher. Doug Martin I

619
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: expected to play the same role he did behind Marshawn

620
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: Lynch last year, which means he's not going to see

621
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: the field very much. But you know, Jacobs, I think

622
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 1: is a legit player, had a terrific broken tackle rate

623
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: last season at Alabama. He can generate yards on his own,

624
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: and he has the size and the path to a major,

625
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: major rookie season role. So whether it's this line or

626
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: fantasy or whatever it is, I think Jacobs is going

627
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: to exceed expectations.

628
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Speaker 2: Sean, what do you think about Jacobs? And then who

629
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: do you have at number five? Yeah?

630
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Speaker 3: I look the Jacobs call to be fair. My rushing

631
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: projections fairly close, but the market I saw with him

632
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: that seems a bit low. As the rushing touchdowns, I

633
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: think DraftKings had about five and a half and I

634
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: have him at six point seven, So I think I

635
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: think there's even more value in the touchdown prop as

636
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: of now. You know, five and a half is pretty

637
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: low number for a workhorse back like him. For me,

638
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: my next prop is Carrie on Johnson under one thousand

639
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: and a half rushing yards. You know, I had a

640
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: ton of shares of karri on Johnson before theore Ridick

641
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: was traded, and I think that's going to help him

642
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: in fantasy. I have him as my number twelve back,

643
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: so I think he's gonna be more involved in the

644
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: passing game, but I'm still worried. You know, CJ. Anderson's there,

645
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: so he could take you know, eight to nine carries

646
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: away per game. Johnson said himself that he's not really

647
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: a twenty plus touch back. If they're gonna limit anywhere,

648
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: it'd be in the running game. So I haven't projected

649
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: for nine hundred yards. And you know, in his brief

650
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: history in the NFL, he says some injuries pop up.

651
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: So I think just this prop there's too many outs

652
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: for the under a thousand seems a little bit aggressive.

653
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: So I'm liking the under on this one.

654
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: Mike, what do you think about carry on Johnson there?

655
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. I have Johnson twelft and at a

656
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: running back in fantasy as well, so we're on the

657
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: same page. I think Johnson can easily get to fifty five,

658
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: maybe sixty receptions. Mike Rothstein, who covers the lines, that

659
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: I was a little optimistic at sixty catches, but I

660
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: mean that Theo Ridick was in that range last year

661
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: and he missed what three or four games, and he's

662
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: gone so and Johnson, not to mention, was on the

663
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: pace for about fifty catches on his own last year,

664
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: So I think he's going to really be a terrific

665
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: asset because of his passing game, Chops, and I do

666
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: think he'll get around two hundred carries. Actually I'm at

667
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: two eighteen. But you know, I still have him at

668
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: nine hundred and eighty five rushing yards. Even with a

669
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: pretty gigantic role and being really optimistic about this kid,

670
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: I still think he falls short of that mark. So

671
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you for sure, Sean. I love the under

672
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: on the rushing yards.

673
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't projected for two and five rushing attempts,

674
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: so I think we're all kind of in that same

675
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: range there, Mike, who do you have at number four?

676
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: Number four for me is another running back that I love. Again,

677
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: you were just talking Sean about rushing touchdowns on Jacobs,

678
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: and I agree with that when I wish I could

679
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 1: get that line at Caesars. We don't have it there

680
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: right now, but you can get the the over on

681
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: the rushing touchdowns For Chris Carson, the line here is seven.

682
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: I have him at nine rushing touchdowns. You know, the

683
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: Seahawks obviously operated the run heaviest offense in the league

684
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: last season forty nine percent of the time they ran

685
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: the ball, and Chris Carson was clearly their lead back,

686
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: and all reports indicate that's not going to change for

687
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: Shot Penny. You know, looks looks good, he looks fine,

688
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: but he's not close to a threat to Carson right now,

689
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: who appears to be the real deal. And here's the thing.

690
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: Last year, Chris Carson missed a couple of games, only

691
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: appeared in fourteen, still seventh in the league and carries

692
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: seventh and rushing touchdowns with nine he ranked fourth and

693
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: carries inside the opponent's iveyard line with thirteen, and he

694
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: was only one off the lead and carries from the

695
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: one yard line with nine of those. So I know

696
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 1: Penny's there and Mike Davis is gone. This is Carson's backfield,

697
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: and he showed us last year he can miss some

698
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: time and still cruise past this line. So again, running

699
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: back overs make me nervous, But I like this, Sean,

700
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts here?

701
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I mean I've talked about length on our

702
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: running back pods and sleeper pods. I love Carson because

703
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: of his rushing touchdown upside. And I've mentioned before, but

704
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: you know, Russ Wilson only had three rushing attempts inside

705
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: the ten yard line last year. DeAndre Washington and Capri

706
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: Bibbs had more. And you know a lot of people

707
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: don't even know who those guys are. But yeah, I

708
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: love Chris Carson. They're still going to use him at

709
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: tenure of the goal line. I think they're trying to,

710
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: you know, protect Russell Wilson. They don't really want him

711
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: scrambling near the end zone. So I love the over here.

712
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: I have him around eight, so you have some ligger

713
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: room here, But yeah, I love Chris Carson over seven

714
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns if you get that number. My next prop

715
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: is Kyler Murray over thirty four hundred passing yards. That's

716
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: the lowest line I've seen at the moment. I'm not

717
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: sure if you know, I've been drinking the kool aid

718
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: too much with you and Raybond. You're Keyler Murray Colt.

719
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: But I just think a market like this, he doesn't

720
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: really have to be good. If you're attacking him in

721
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: the touchdown markets, I think you know, he's gonna have

722
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: to be efficient and good. I'm in the red zone

723
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: to hit those. But this one just seems a little

724
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: too easy to go over. You know, I have him

725
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: projected around thirty seven hundred, and you guys make fun

726
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: of me for being low on him, So there's some

727
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: big room there. But this is you know, if you

728
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: factor him, let's say he misses one game, which sounds

729
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: about right. You know, that would be about two hundred

730
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: and twenty seven passing yards a game. And we already

731
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: know that. You know, they're gonna play out the shotgun

732
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: a lot. They're going to throw a ton, and their

733
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: defense is going to be a lot worse than I

734
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: think people realize. You know, Patrick Peterson is going to

735
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: be out the first six weeks, and then Robert Alford,

736
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: who they just acquired, he's placed on IR. So I think,

737
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: you know, the defense is gonna be really shaky. They're

738
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: gonna be force to throw. We know they're gonna be

739
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: a faster paced offenses here in general. So I think

740
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: a probab like this, he doesn't even have to be

741
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: good go over. So I love this number, all right.

742
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: So Sean, you have Kyler Murray there at number four. Mike,

743
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on Kyler Murray.

744
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that a lot. In fact, when we

745
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: talked about Kyler on the Daily Wager back in April,

746
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: the line was already over thirty five hundred yards, So

747
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm honestly surprised you can get it lower, you know.

748
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: And it's kind of funny if you look back at

749
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: the five quarterbacks picked first overall that who played in

750
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: at least fourteen games over the past decade, all of

751
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: them cleared that mark. What is it thirty four or something.

752
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, all of them had at least thirty all, Yeah,

753
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: all of them at least thirty five hundred passing yards.

754
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: You know, Murray's going to step in as a Week

755
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: one starter. Also, the leak continues to change. I mean,

756
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: twenty four out of thirty two teams reached thirty five

757
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: hundred passing yards last year, so this is you know,

758
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about a kid who can run the ball, sure,

759
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: but also set the FBS record for yards for a

760
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: passive tenh last season. So yeah, if you can get that,

761
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm over thirty eight hundred yards in my

762
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: projection at ninety five percent of the dropback, So I'm

763
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: with you there.

764
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of my favorites. Probably not a surprise, Mike.

765
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: Who do you have at number three?

766
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I might be a little stubborn on

767
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: this because the line keeps going up as much as

768
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: I keep hammering this one home every time I talk

769
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: about it in an article or online. It's like the

770
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: line moves a half touchdown, but it's Philip Rivers passing touchdowns.

771
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: The line right now is twenty eight and a half.

772
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: I have him at thirty touchdowns, so I'm not too

773
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: far off. But again that that line keeps getting closer

774
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: and closer to me. But here's the thing. He should

775
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: be a near lock to get to this mark. You know,

776
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: he's he's actually reached twenty eight passing touchdowns nine of

777
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: the past eleven seasons. He's gotten there each of the

778
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: past six. He had thirty two last year. And if

779
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: you look deeper at this offense, there's there's really two

780
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: things that stand out to me. Seventy eight percent of

781
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: the Chargers offensive touchdowns have been passes over the past

782
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: seven seasons. That is the highest mark in the NFL,

783
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: and it's not even close. I believe the second closest

784
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: team is at seventy two percent. It's just an you know,

785
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: a feature I think is the word I'm looking for

786
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: if this Chargers offense when Philip Rivers has been there

787
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: is that they just score a lot of a lot

788
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: of their touchdowns through the air. So you like that.

789
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: And the other one, guys, is he hasn't missed a

790
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: game since we one of the twenty sixteen season. Ever

791
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: since he replaced Drew Brees. He has played in every game.

792
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: That's that's incredible. So you you know you talked about

793
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: it before, Shawn, you don't really have to worry here

794
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: about injury. It just hasn't been a problem for him,

795
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: and it should be very back of your mind. It's

796
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: just not really a major concern. So I think there's

797
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons to jump on the over heare.

798
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't projected for right around thirty Sean, what

799
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on this?

800
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the over on twenty and a half.

801
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: I think that's a great number. I haven't projected twenty

802
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 3: nine point seven passing touchdowns, and I think I saw

803
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: it was about a month ago someone was flipping thirty

804
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: two and a half. I like the under for that.

805
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: I mean, if there were ever a guy to middle

806
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: for you know, four touchdown Kushion to be him. I

807
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: think it's very very likely he's going to finish between

808
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: twenty nine and thirty two touchdowns, So you know, look

809
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: for a guy like him, look for different numbers and

810
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: you could possibly middle it. But yeah, I agree with

811
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: everything you guys said. And you know, he gets Hunter

812
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: Henry back this year, so he has Hunter Henry Mike Williams.

813
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: And then if Melvin Gordon misses a handful of games,

814
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: you know, Austin Eckler's much more a pass touching back,

815
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 3: so everything just kind of leans towards her is going over.

816
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: And you know, he's probably the least likely quarterback to

817
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: miss a game in my model. So I love the

818
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: over twenty and a half.

819
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: So Sean, who do you have at number three?

820
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 3: So number three I have mark Ingram under seven and

821
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: a half rushing touchdowns. Again, this is a guy.

822
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: That I do like him.

823
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 3: Fancy. I think he's going to be the warhorse back

824
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: for the Ravens. You know, playing alongside Lamar Jackson should

825
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: help his efficiency. You know, I'm projecting him for about

826
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: fifteen twenty touches a game. However, once they get around

827
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: the goal line. You know, Lamar Jackson last year, if

828
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: you if you expand his his rushing stats inside the

829
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: ten yard line, his rushing attempts across a full season,

830
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: he would rank fourth or fifth last year. So you know,

831
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: mark Ingram is gonna have to compete with Lamar Jackson

832
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: for you know, rushing touchdowns. You still have Justice Hill

833
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: there who could break out this year. Gus Edwards could become,

834
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: you know, a goal line vulture type of back. And

835
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: you know, honestly, the Ravens sometimes seem like they're just

836
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: trying to set up Justin tucker Field goals. So there's

837
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: just a lot of outs that can go towards the

838
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: under for Ingram here, you know, injury, Lamar Jackson being efficient,

839
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 3: you know, carrying the ball around the goal line. Like

840
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 3: I mentioned, Justin just As Hill could break out. So

841
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: I just love the under at seven and a half here,

842
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm projecting him closer to six this year.

843
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: The idea of the Ravens bypassing touchdowns so they can

844
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: get Justin Tuckerfield goals.

845
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 3: There's been some times I've tweeted that Harbot is totally

846
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: just you know, trying to win this fantasy league with Tucker.

847
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: Mike, what are your thoughts on on Ingram's touchdown prop?

848
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this. I was looking at the Ravens

849
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: offense with Lamar Jackson as the starter last year, right,

850
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: So he made eight starts. The Ravens had three carries

851
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: as a team inside the three yard line during those

852
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: eight starts. None of them guys were by a running back.

853
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: There were two for Jackson, one by Max Williams. So

854
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: that tells you that's one kind of interesting nugget.

855
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: You know.

856
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: The Ravens running backs as a whole had four rushing

857
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns during Jackson's starts. That was fifth lowest in the NFL.

858
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you. I mean Ingram has been

859
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: a premier I said, near the goal line during his

860
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: time in New Orleans in terms of volume and you know,

861
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: and racking up a lot of touchdowns. But I'm just

862
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: not sure if he's going to get enough work in

863
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: that area in this offense that the running backs certainly

864
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 1: did did not last year.

865
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's fair. And there always is the chance

866
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: that even if he is still a good back near

867
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: the goal line, as you mentioned, he won't get that opportunity.

868
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: But then he could also decline in skill as he's

869
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: approaching age thirty. So yeah, I like this one. Multiple

870
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: outs for it, Mike, we are now at number two.

871
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: Who is it that you were looking at for this one?

872
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to go with Alvin Kamara here. The

873
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: line is one thousand, six hundred and ninety nine point

874
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: five rushing plus receiving yards here, so essentially seventeen hundred

875
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: scrimmage yards. And I'm going to out with Yonder on

876
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: this one, to be clear. So last year, four running

877
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: backs reached seventeen hundred yards, Kamara not one of them.

878
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: In fact, he's been top six at running back in

879
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: scrimmage yards in both of his pro seasons, but has

880
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: been well below seventeen hundred yards in both of those seasons.

881
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: He had fifteen fifty four and fifteen ninety two eighty

882
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: one catches both seasons. Sure, but he's yet to clear

883
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety four carries in a single season.

884
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: And yes, maybe that carrie number goes over two hundred

885
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: this year. It's possible. It's gonna be hard to improve

886
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: on his receiving numbers. It's also going to be hard

887
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: to improve on his his efficiency, which has been outstanding.

888
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you're really counting on a lot to get

889
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: him up to seventeen hundred yards. And look, I know

890
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: mark Ingram's gone. We just talked about him, but Latavius

891
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: Murray is in and they're gonna use him plenty as

892
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: a ball carried. They've already said. I mean, they're making

893
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: it very clear to us that they do not want

894
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: to improve increase Kamara's workload much, if at all. And

895
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: if they don't do that, you're counting on like world

896
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: class efficiency to get him to seventeen hundred yards. That's

897
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: not something I'm gonna bet on. So for me, I'm

898
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna be hammering the under on this one.

899
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, I think with Tavius Murray is one of

900
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 2: your favorite fantasy picks so far because of the things

901
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: that Mike mentioned there. What are your thoughts on this?

902
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? I actually put out sort of a joke tweet

903
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: yesterday're making fun of how much Latavius Murray I have

904
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: and best ball, So check that out if you want

905
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: to laugh. But yeah, I would love for Kamara to

906
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: hit the under here. I never want to root for

907
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: an injury, so hopefully it's because he got suspended for

908
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: like four games for something. But I agree with everything

909
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: that Mike said. I love the under here all.

910
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: Right, and Sean number two, who do you have here?

911
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: So Robbie Anderson is my boy. I feel like I'm

912
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: always defending him on our pod, but I love the

913
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: under nine hundred and fifty receiving yards this year for starters.

914
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 3: He's never gone over and that's despite you know, being

915
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: the last couple of years being the only receiver that

916
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: the Jets have. So I just think it's going to

917
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: be tough for him to pass us up after they

918
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: bring in Jamison Crowder, a great press catching back like

919
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: Le'Veon Bell, Quincy Andy was healthy again, and then you

920
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 3: know Chris Herndon, once he returns from suspension, will be

921
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 3: back in the fold. So I just don't know how

922
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 3: he'll get here, especially since Gase is you know, he's

923
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 3: expanding his route treat to not just go deep every time.

924
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 3: So you know, I've I've been boosting his reception total.

925
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: You know, he made a nice comeback route last Preseins game.

926
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: I think he'll he'll get more targets this year, but

927
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: I think his yards per catch should go down. I

928
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: just don't see him going over nine to fifty. I

929
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: haven't at eight to fifty, and I feel like I'm

930
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: always way too high on Robbie Anderson. So I love

931
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 3: the under here.

932
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, I think of myself as a Robbie Anderson optimist,

933
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 2: even just since the time that he entered the league.

934
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 2: And I'm with you right there, I have him projected

935
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: for even a fewer yards eight hundred and thirty seven,

936
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: So I like this number quite a bit. But yeah,

937
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I might be wrong. Part

938
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: of it is I'm not all that optimistic on Adam

939
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: Gase and his ability to transform this offense, so kind

940
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: of from a top down approach, I might be a

941
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: little biased on this. Mike, what are your thoughts on

942
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: Robbie Anderson.

943
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm with you as I'm at eight seventy five.

944
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: So I like the under there. And again I'm an

945
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: Anderson optimist. And that's despite the fact that and I've

946
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: tweeted this before. If you look at his cornerback matchups,

947
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: his projected cornerback matchups for all sixteen games, it's brutal.

948
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it might be the toughest slate in the

949
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: NFL this season. A lot of shadow coverage from some

950
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: terrific players, so that could hurt. I will say this though,

951
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: I believe the last check his receiving touchdown line was

952
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: six or six and a half. And I like that.

953
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: I like the over there a lot. He's been top

954
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: ten and end zone targets each of the past two seasons.

955
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: And I like what I saw from Sam Donald late

956
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: last season. Actually, these two connected for three touchdowns in

957
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: the final four games. Donald look good this preseason, so

958
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: I think he can hit the over and the touchdowns.

959
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I'm low. I'm much lower on

960
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: the receiving yards.

961
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, number one, your favorite twenty nineteen season

962
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: long prompt? Who is it?

963
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: Well, you guys may not have heard about this guy.

964
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

965
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: He's a new up and comer. He hasn't achieved much

966
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: in the in the NFL so far. So his name's

967
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Thomas Brady. He was a quarterback in Michigan. I don't

968
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: know if you guys know him, but I think he

969
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: might go over his passing yards. His passing yardage line

970
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: this year right now, it's actually dropping for some reason,

971
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: but it's at forty one thirty nine point five that's

972
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: the passing yardage line. My projection right now especially, and

973
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: by the way, my line did go up. My projection

974
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: went up after Josh Gordon is reinstated. It's now at

975
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: forty four to twenty three, so we're talking almost three

976
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: hundred yards higher than this line. And the line did

977
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: not move when Josh Borden was activated. So I think

978
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: you can jump on this one. It's even better now

979
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: than it was a couple of weeks ago. So look,

980
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: last year, Tom Brady threw for four three hundred and

981
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: fifty five yards well above this line, and that was

982
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: with the Patriots again operating the fifth run heaviest offense

983
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Brad he's been over this line seven

984
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: of the past eight seasons, assuming we extrapolate twenty sixteen,

985
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: when he was of course suspended for four games. He

986
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: hasn't missed a game, much like Rivers before. He hasn't

987
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: missed a game since that knee injury in two thousand

988
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: and eight, after the historical seven season. And the efficiency,

989
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: if you're looking at, you know, per play efficiency in

990
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: terms of the yards per attempt he's been I believe

991
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: it's top seventeen in yards per attempt each of the

992
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: past six seasons. So the guy's still good. I know

993
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: he's up there in age, but this line is way

994
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: too low for a guy that again delivered the goods

995
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 1: in a very run heavy offense last season.

996
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: Mike, I think the big question that people are going

997
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: to have when looking at this is what is the

998
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: impact of Gronk's absence on Tom Brady for an entire season.

999
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: How have you taken that into account?

1000
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, that's that's going to factor in. You know,

1001
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: I obviously connect the quarterbacks to the receivers and they

1002
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: affect each other and in terms of in terms of

1003
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: these numbers, but you know, you've seen this I'm sure

1004
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: publicized over in the last week or so since Gordon

1005
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: was activated. But you know, in terms of splitting up

1006
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: all the receivers he's thrown to in his career, Brady

1007
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: is yards for attempt his highest with Josh Gordon, and

1008
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: again the sample small, you don want to overreact to that,

1009
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: but you know, they obviously had success connecting with each

1010
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: other last season. He also as Julian Edelman. We'll see

1011
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: if they get anything out of the kil Harry or

1012
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, who's who's looked departed to Marius Thomas might

1013
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: be cleared as well. So I think if you look

1014
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: at their wide receiver group at this time last season,

1015
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: you actually think it's an improvement, you know, and even

1016
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: mentioned James White, who who could catch seven hundred yards

1017
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: worth of balls this season. So I know losing ground

1018
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: hurts for sure, but it's not like this guy was,

1019
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: you know, a massive factor last season again and they

1020
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: were running the ball and he still cleared this number easily.

1021
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: So I get that concern for sure, But I think

1022
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: there's enough bodies here in this offen still a very

1023
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: good offensive line that Brady'll hit the mark. Plus, by

1024
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: the way, guys, there's a chance they throw the ball

1025
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: more this year. It's very possible that that happens. I

1026
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: don't know why they would. I think it worked pretty

1027
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: well last season, but they could conceivably throw the ball more.

1028
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: They were a pass first offense for about a decade

1029
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: before kind of making a little bit of an adjustment

1030
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: last year.

1031
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: Sean, what are your thoughts on the Tom Brady prop?

1032
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked it. Over as Mike mentioned, I gave

1033
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: him a bit of a boost after Josh Burden was reinstated,

1034
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: so I have him closer to forty three hundred yards,

1035
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: So it is weird that they haven't adjusted and they're

1036
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: lowering it. So that's bizarre. And you know, again he's

1037
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: one of those guys we're pretty sure he's going to

1038
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 3: play all sixteen games, so there isn't as much risk

1039
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: in taking it over on a prop like.

1040
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 2: This, Sean, your favorite prop for the twenty nineteen season?

1041
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: Who is it?

1042
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: So? Right now, I'm loving the Le'Veon Bell under eight

1043
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: and a half rushing touchdown. He's only gone over that

1044
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: total once in his five seasons at Pittsburgh and that

1045
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: was on a much you know, higher scoring offense. Workload

1046
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: has never been a problem for him, so I don't

1047
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: know why people think going to the Jets, he's all

1048
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: of a sudden going to get more touches. You know

1049
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: that the line's going to be worse. You know they're

1050
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: going to be a slower paced team and lower scoring

1051
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: than the Steelers. So you know, this is just a

1052
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: little too high. And with Le'Veon Bell, there's always more

1053
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: outs on the under. So getting a number like eight

1054
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: and a half, I've seen seven and a half. That's

1055
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: probably the most common line. I'm not, as you know,

1056
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: bullish on that, but you know eight and a half

1057
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: on FanDuel is just way too high. So give me

1058
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: the under. This is one of those ones where you

1059
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: know I'm going to put even more on it because

1060
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: I just think there's there's way too many outs for

1061
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: this under to hit.

1062
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: Mike, what are your thoughts on this? And like for Sean,

1063
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: for back to back picks, you are going against Jets players,

1064
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: some sort of bias he must have expect on social

1065
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: media about this. But Mike, what are your thoughts on this?

1066
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: I love it. I have him at six rushing touchdowns

1067
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: and I've been considered too optimistic about Bell this season.

1068
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I mean, if you really look into

1069
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: gases tendencies and you covered it a lot of it Sean,

1070
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: but he also refused to run the ball at the

1071
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: goal line. It was unbelievable how little he ran the ball.

1072
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: There's a reason Frank r like that. What was that

1073
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: season he had zero rushing touchdowns? Well, if you look

1074
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: at gases three seasons in Miami that the Dolphins ran

1075
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: the ball twenty three times inside the five yard line

1076
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: during those three season that was by far fewest in

1077
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's not even close. I mean, it was

1078
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: just it's almost hard to believe that that number was

1079
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: that low over those three seasons. So we'll see if

1080
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: that changes in New York, but I doubt it, right,

1081
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: Why would it, you know, especially when they invested a

1082
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: bit in the wide receiver room. They have Chris Herndon

1083
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: once seized back from suspension, and obviously Leveon Bell will

1084
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: do a lot of damages pass catcher as well. So

1085
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: I think Bell will be closer to nine scrimmage touchdowns,

1086
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: but I think three of them come as a receiver.

1087
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 2: All right, So we have players who don't have lines yet,

1088
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: and as we are entering into week four, I would

1089
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: expect for there to be some lines that are posted.

1090
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: But Sean, you have made suggestions of players we should

1091
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: talk about and figure out what their lines probably should

1092
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: be so that when they are released people can pounce

1093
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: on them immediately. So who are the players you want

1094
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: to focus on?

1095
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: So, so I have some goofy props, and so I'll

1096
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: start with one of the goofy props. But you know,

1097
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: I saw sportsbooks after Baker Mayfield is you know, kind

1098
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: of calling out the Giants for drafting Daniel Jones a

1099
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: lot of sportsbooks. You know, they got cute, so they

1100
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: made some Mayfield versus Jones props. You know, they did

1101
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: like most passing touchdowns, and then they had to make

1102
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: Baker like minus two thousand. So I'm going to help

1103
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: them out here. I think this one is pretty even,

1104
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: and I'm curious to hear what your guys pick is.

1105
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: But who will have more regards this year, Baker Mayfield

1106
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: or Daniel Jones.

1107
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: Well, I'll jump in. I have I have Jones making

1108
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: five starts, so I'm not sure if that's enough to

1109
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: even this out. I have him with seventy six yards

1110
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: in those games. I have Mayfield with one sixty two

1111
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: playing almost the entire season. So for me, this one

1112
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: is not even close. But listen, I do think it

1113
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: Jones place. He's going to surprise a lot of people

1114
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: with his legs. So maybe I'm a little low there,

1115
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: maybe a little conservative on the yards per carry. It's

1116
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: obviously a lot better than what I have heard Eli,

1117
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: but I'm going to lean Baker barring disaster with Eli

1118
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: Manning at some point.

1119
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have numbers that are actually remarkably similar to Mike's.

1120
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: I have one hundred and sixty five rushing yards for

1121
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: Baker playing almost the entire season, and then for Jones,

1122
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: I have him playing I believe at this point I

1123
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: bumped it up to four four games and I have

1124
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: him at around seventy three rushing yards yeap for close.

1125
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 3: So I'm obviously more bullish on Jones playing time this year.

1126
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 3: This is essentially Danielle Jones over under seven starts. I

1127
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: feel like, so my per game stats, I would have

1128
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: it being pretty much even at around seven starts or so.

1129
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought this was the fun one. And

1130
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: the you know, the Twitter polls I put up on

1131
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: these to kind of you know, sharpen these for you guys,

1132
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: eighty percent of the people pick Mayfield. So I just think,

1133
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: you know, people are probably underestimating, you know, potential playing

1134
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: time for Daniel Jones. But obviously this is this is

1135
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: just a goofy prop. It's really hard to nail down,

1136
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 3: but I think it's gonna be closer than people think.

1137
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: So next up, I have Jimmy g total interceptions this year.

1138
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 3: I think this is a very topical prop to float

1139
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: out there, but I have fourteen and a half.

1140
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: I would take the under I'm at twelve point six.

1141
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: I have him playing out most of the season. I

1142
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: am mulans really making one start, maybe a few snaps

1143
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: in another game. That said, I do have pretty strong

1144
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: concerns about Garoppolo, you know, so it will not shock

1145
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: me by any means if he went over on this one.

1146
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: I mean he already had He's already has more turnovers

1147
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: and games played with the forty nine ers, thirteen turnovers

1148
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: in nine games. And I think that's something that's not

1149
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: discussed enough. But maybe it will be now right because

1150
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: he had that practice with five straight picks and has

1151
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: struggled so far in the preseason. But for me, I'm

1152
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: still coming in at twelve point six.

1153
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, I'm at twelve, but I do want to

1154
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: echo the concerns that Mike express At the same time,

1155
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: I always go back in fourth in terms of like,

1156
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: if a guy is throwing interceptions in practice, what does

1157
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: that mean? Does that mean that he's sort of testing

1158
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: the bounds of what he can get away with, which

1159
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: I think is a good thing and kind of the

1160
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: point of practice. And you know, in the preseason, before

1161
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: Mahomes just exploded last year, you were getting reports of

1162
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: him throwing lots of interceptions in practice. So I'm I'm

1163
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: always unsure about how I should interpret stuff like this,

1164
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: but in general, I think it's not a good thing

1165
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: if a veteran is throwing interceptions in practice. So I

1166
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 2: could see how he hits the over, but I'm going

1167
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: to go with the under for now.

1168
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean it was the practice reports and

1169
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: then the game, I mean one interception out of six attempts,

1170
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: and then he threw it. It should have been a

1171
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 3: pick six that got dropped. So again, that was you know,

1172
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: thirty three percent of his passes should have been intercepted.

1173
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: So I think this is a prop that I haven't

1174
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: seen floated at sportsbooks, but they're definitely going to float

1175
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: this out there because it's topical. So I bumped him

1176
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: up just slightly at fourteen and a half. And I'm

1177
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: just curious if you guys think, you know, let's say

1178
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: he just starts to hear off throwing picks left and right.

1179
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 3: Is I think there's a chance he could almost get

1180
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: ahead of the pace so much that they almost consider

1181
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: benching him for a guy like Mullen. So I think

1182
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: that this is like this goes back to what I

1183
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: was saying about Flacco's prop last year. I think books

1184
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: might get cute and offer like a fifteen and a

1185
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: half or something, And that's when I would hammer the

1186
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: over because I think it's gonna get blown out of proportion.

1187
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: And also if it gets really out of hand, he'll

1188
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: get a bench before he can surpass that number.

1189
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, hammer the under on fifteen and a half, right.

1190
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, all right, what do you have

1191
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: next year? So? I have Todd Gurley rushing yards and

1192
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to see a sportsbook float this,

1193
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: but we might get something like this next week. Usually

1194
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: sportsbooks get a little more aggressive after the last preseason

1195
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: game to do props, even as sketchy as a Todd

1196
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: Gurley prop. But I have him at nine to five

1197
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 3: and a half. I'm curious to see if you guys

1198
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: are over under.

1199
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: That I am over. I'm at ten to sixty seven.

1200
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: I've been more optimistic on girl. I think a lot

1201
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: of the concerns have come from outside the organization, you know,

1202
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: the Sean McVay, Todd Gurley, that none of them, they

1203
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: seem more annoyed than concerned with his knee. And again

1204
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: I factored it in. I mean, if I didn't, I'd

1205
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: still be picking him in the top five in fantasy drafts,

1206
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: which I'm not. But I still think he's going to

1207
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: get enough run as a ballcarrier to clear a thousand

1208
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: rushing yards. And you know, there was all that ridiculous

1209
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson ie at some point, you know, throughout the

1210
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: off season, his ADP got really out of control in fantasy.

1211
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: You know, he struggled so far. You're hearing the reports

1212
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: that you're gonna see more Malcolm Brown than we thought.

1213
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: But Gurley, it's gonna have to be a disaster for

1214
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 1: him to not get too a thousand yards last season.

1215
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: And by the way, Caesar's also not doing rushing yards,

1216
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: but they are doing total touchdowns for Todd Gurley in

1217
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: the LINEUS twelve for that one. So I thought that

1218
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: was interesting.

1219
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting in that I've been moving Gurley down

1220
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: just a little bit throughout the offseason, and so I

1221
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: now have him at nine hundred and eighty nine. So

1222
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm still on the over The weird thing is that

1223
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: I think he can have a season that disappoints from

1224
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: a yardage perspective, but still end up having like fifteen touchdowns.

1225
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: That is totally within the range of outcomes that I

1226
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 2: think a lot of fantasy players aren't taking into account

1227
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: that he could still be the goal line guy in

1228
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: a very prolific offense. So that's something to keep in mind.

1229
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: But I do think that the yardage will come down.

1230
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: All right, Sean, what do you have for us next?

1231
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: All right?

1232
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: So next up? Who will have more receiving yards out

1233
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 3: of the two rookie tight ends TJ. Hawkinson or no offense?

1234
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 3: And I have them both at four forty seven right now.

1235
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 3: So I was just curious if you guys are leaning

1236
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: one way or the other on these two.

1237
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: Let's see, you said four forty seven. Okay, I'm at

1238
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: four to seventy one for Hockinson four fifty nine for fans,

1239
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: So I mean, I guess I'm a little higher, but

1240
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: they are very very close to the point that I

1241
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: would not I don't know if I would bet that

1242
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I guess I would lean forward

1243
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: Hockinson just because there are reports that fans struggling a bit,

1244
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: and the reports are positive on Howkinson, not to mention that,

1245
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I mean, you would think

1246
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: Jesse James will focus primarily on blocking right. That should

1247
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: open the door for Hockinson to pick up a few

1248
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: more targets. But fan seeing, you know, he should be

1249
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: focused on pass catching in Denver once he's ready to go.

1250
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: Of course, with Emmanuel Sanders and Deshan Hamilton, they might

1251
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: have a lot of sort of underneath shortened and intermediate

1252
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: area target So that's a tough one again. If I

1253
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: if I was forced to pick, i'dlean Hockinson, but I

1254
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: think i'd devoid.

1255
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Hockinson at four sixty one. Sean, what

1256
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 2: was the number that you put out? There was a

1257
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: four seventy four for seventy two.

1258
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: I was at four forty seven for both of them.

1259
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: Way four forty seven. So yeah, four sixty one is

1260
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: what I have for Hawkinson For fans. I'm almost embarrassed

1261
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: to say that I'm pretty optimistic on him, and a

1262
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: lot of that has to do with Joe Flacco and

1263
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: his affinity for tight ends. But I have him projective

1264
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 2: for around five hundred yards, So I'm going with fans

1265
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: on that one. But it's a difference of fortyish yards.

1266
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, I'd probably just tend to stay away,

1267
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: but Phantom, I'm giving the edge too.

1268
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: I was sort of they're with you before, you know,

1269
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: Male Sanders made his Mane Ghost recovery, so I've I've

1270
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 3: updated since then, boosting up male centers and I took

1271
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: fan down just a little bit because I think that

1272
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: will damn because I was right there with you on that.

1273
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I think you have one more for us here.

1274
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was saving the best for last. So we're

1275
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 3: gonna have to do our annual Josh Gordon prop. This

1276
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: is obviously not going to end up anywhere near my number.

1277
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: It's gonna be way over a way under. But right

1278
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: now I have the props at seven twenty and a

1279
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 3: half receiving yards.

1280
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: Wow. And I was criticized for being them too low

1281
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: on Josh Gordon with my initial projections.

1282
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

1283
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: Geeze, I'm had done nine to sixty two and that's

1284
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: a fourteen game projection. So maybe I'm you know, expecting

1285
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: too much, expecting too much that he's going to be

1286
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: on the on the field for the you know, a

1287
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: good chunk of the season. But yeah, I don't know.

1288
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you just saw them use him as a

1289
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: vertical target last season. Obviously there was quite a bit

1290
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: of efficiency there, you know, and down feel I can

1291
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: talk before about that connection in terms of the yards

1292
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: for Tim. So yeah, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna jump

1293
00:55:58,800 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: on the offer on that one. Guys.

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00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, I'm going to tell you that I'm taking

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00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: the over. But then before I give you my number,

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question. How many games

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00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: are you projecting Gordon for this year?

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00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: Right now? I have twelve?

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00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So I'm projecting for around thirteen, and

1300
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm around nine hundred and fiftyish yards, And I think

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00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm probably too optimistic on the games played if we

1302
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: if we're being honest, But I think once he's on

1303
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: the field, the connection that he has with Brady will

1304
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: be something that is a big boost that offense. Because

1305
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: once he came back last year and he was healthy,

1306
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: he didn't have the hamstring injury which kind of plagued

1307
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: him for the first couple of weeks. Once he really

1308
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: got into the flow of that offense, I thought he

1309
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: was a pretty good receiver who was pacing for you know,

1310
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: like one thousand yards eleven hundred yards for this season.

1311
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: So it's just I think he can continue to do

1312
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: something like that. It's just a question of how many

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00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: games he's gonna play.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious, Sean, where you have him in fantasy,

1315
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: because you know, I had like an auction in a

1316
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: draft after that news broke. I was actually in Canton

1317
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: Ring when that happened, and he went, wait for way

1318
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: more money than expected. He went way earlier than the

1319
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: draft and expected. And I'm sitting there like, man, you know,

1320
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: I haven't been over nine hundred yards six touchdowns, and

1321
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: you know I'm at fourteen games, so it's pretty optimistic

1322
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: and still I'm painfully low.

1323
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: So initially I bumped him up to twenty six because

1324
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: I was given like fourteen a half games, and then

1325
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: I thought better, I went down to twelve. But yeah,

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00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: I would say around wide receiver thirty two or thirty four,

1327
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: that's right about where I think that the risk is

1328
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: worth it. There's just a wide range of outcomes. But

1329
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: if you're getting him as you know, your wide receiver

1330
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: three or even starting to dip into your bench or flex,

1331
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: I think it's a no brainer to take him because

1332
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: just the the rewards well worth you know, the little

1333
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: bit of risk that you know he might only play

1334
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: six games or something this year.

1335
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: All right, I would say strong to quite strong. Was

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Speaker 2: this episode fantastic conversation with Mike? Mike, what content of

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00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: yours should people check out at ESPN?

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00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're actually it's good timing. We're working on kind

1339
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Speaker 1: of our big betting prop article, if you will, kind

1340
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Speaker 1: of our make a preview for the season, which is

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Speaker 1: going to be up soon over at ESPN. Chalk. I

1342
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Speaker 1: have my big NFL preview coming out as well, with

1343
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Speaker 1: power rankings and all that fun stuff, my unigrades that

1344
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Speaker 1: I post on on Twitter, you know, and all the

1345
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Speaker 1: usual stuff. Of course. Daily Wager two six pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: on ESPN two weekdays, and we're gonna have one Sunday morning. Guys.

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00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: You gotta talk. You know, gambling is a thing now

1348
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Speaker 1: if you haven't heard, so nine am. I'm excited. You

1349
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: can't wait. It's going to be a crazy season. Then

1350
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: we'll check back in a few months and see how

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Speaker 1: we did.

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Speaker 2: All right, be sure to follow Mike on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: Mike Clay NFL. You can follow Sean and me in

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