1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the best of Cabino and 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Rich podcast. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch us live every day from five 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: to seven pm e Eastern. 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: Two to four pacifics on Fox Sports Radio. 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Find your local station for Debino and Rich at Fox 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day. 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: On the iHeartRadio app by searching the FSR. It's New 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: Year's Day, you know that means parades and the Rose Bowl. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: Because we are only moments away from Alabama taking on 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Indiana and again, that will have to change the way 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: we talk about two different football programs and will have 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 2: to at some point change the way that we at 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: least perceive two of the better teams that are trying 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: to figure out exactly how to win a championship this year, 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: Buck Rising, Chason Fitz hanging out with you don't Forget. 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: For over forty years, Tirak is helping customers find the 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: right tires for how, what and where they drive, Shipped 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: free and fast, backed by free road hazard protection, convenient 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: installation options like mobile tyrants to tire rack dot Com. 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 3: The way tire body should be look first and foremost parades. 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm out on parades. Parades are dumb I don't know 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: why everybody hangs out. 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: Like I turned on the TV this morning the Rose 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: Bowl Parade was on, and I just I could not 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: have rolled my eyes any physically harder than I rolled them, 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: Like how many people do we need to commentate on 28 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: a parade? I don't understand this, buck, I don't understand 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: why we're all just going to stand there on the street. 30 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: Like there is just a moment where you're standing. 31 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: There and you're like, okay, the now the float has 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: gone by, Now what what is my interview? 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: I'm out. I'm out on parades. Parades are not my thing. 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 4: That's a that's a tough one. 35 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: I've done the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York, 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 5: and that's you know, that's an experience and too itself, 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 5: right with the floats and the things like that, especially 38 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 5: if you're the I mean, it's been one hundred years 39 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 5: since I went. We were we were still living in 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 5: New Jersey at the time. And do you go as 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: a kid and you're delighted by it and you see 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 5: your favorite Pokemon float or you see you know, whatever 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 5: super superherok you want, and that's enough for you, right, 44 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: Like it's a delight for a certain generation, but after 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: a while, and maybe you get if as you're an 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: adult and we are you know, you and I are 47 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 5: people or two people that do not have children. So 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 5: perhaps this is lost on us in particular. But something 49 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 5: that for some of my friends who have kids tell 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 5: me is that the fun of having kids at things 51 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 5: like parades or things like Christmas is that you lose 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 5: some of your luster for that as you get up 53 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 5: there in age, But when you have kids, you get 54 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 5: to experience those things basically as a brand new event 55 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 5: through your kids. So maybe there's something to that, just 56 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 5: to kind of play Devil's advocate nice guy, which I 57 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 5: never very often. 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: Get to do. 59 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: So it's a very fair point by you, and I 60 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: think that when you have kids it changes sort of 61 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 2: the equation to everything. Like I chose not to have kids. 62 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to have kids. Kids aren't something I 63 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: want my life. I have had to I love kids, 64 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: by the way, I just didn't want any of my own. 65 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: I have had to sort of reevaluate what that means 66 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: sometimes at Christmas, like Christmas is weird if you don't 67 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: because I don't have a lot of family. So since 68 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: I don't have any relationship with the family that I 69 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: have and I don't have kids, Like, it's just a 70 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: little weird when you wake up one day and you're like, 71 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: all right, I'm in my forties. 72 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: I don't need you to buy me a Christmas present. 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: I like it. Just that feels weird to me too. 74 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: So, like you know, I do acquiesce that having kids, 75 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: and I've told my friends before, I think that is 76 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: the one. There's a weird chapter you go through in 77 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: your life on certain holidays where you look around like 78 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: it's fine, it's great, it's a good day, but when 79 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: you don't have kids, it just gets disconnected. 80 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: Parades I will add to that list. 81 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: I think anything anytime you have it with a kid, 82 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: and it's like it's a magic and wonder for them. 83 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: That's great. They weren't all kids standing at the. 84 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: Rose Bowl parade. 85 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: Now, that's all I'm saying. 86 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: But now we get the Rose Bowl and we get 87 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: Alabama versus Indiana and look huge. To be very clear, 88 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: even though I have so many Alabama friends, Alabama grads, 89 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: Alabama fans, friends all over my life from the years 90 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: I spent in and around Nashville, I know how many 91 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: of you love Alabama. 92 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: You lose today, I really do, and I don't. 93 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Won't you lose because I care who wins or loses. 94 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: Most of the time, I don't I have a favorite 95 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: college football team. I'm squarely rooting against Indiana because I'm 96 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: tired of benefit of the doubt going and leaving certain 97 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: teams for no good reason, like we can't look through 98 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: this matchup. And I really respected the fact that even 99 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Nick Saban on Game Day today reference the fact that, man, 100 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: so many people say it's Indiana, it's Indiana. This is 101 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: not Indiana. This is the number one team in the country. 102 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: This is a team with an absolutely explosive defense that 103 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 2: flew around to the football at Ohio State. That really 104 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: surprised me. Yes, they've got some key injuries there, they 105 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: got to work out. They've got the Heisman Trophy winner, 106 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 2: They've got a couple of wide receivers. 107 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: They are going to be drafted to play in the NFL. 108 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: This is not Indiana. 109 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, I wanted to make college football 110 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 2: the video game really hard this year, so I picked 111 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: Indiana to play, and what do you know, I'm in 112 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: the championship. Like that's the way we make it sound 113 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: I need Indiana to win a title because A. I 114 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: think it opens up the the floodgates for everybody else. 115 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: It takes away the excuses for every other programs. 116 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: That well, we can't compete. 117 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: Indiana figured it out and see it forces us to 118 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: start talking about Indiana and Alabama not for who they've been, 119 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: but for who they are right now. 120 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of those things where this is the 121 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 5: kind of game that could force you to reimagine how 122 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 5: you view the construct of modern day college football, right, 123 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 5: I think to a different extent. And obviously they're not 124 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: participating in a college football playoff game, but they have 125 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 5: been a champion multiple times over as a program. Despite 126 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 5: just having lost to Penn State in the Mighty and 127 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 5: illustrious Pinstripe Bowl, Clemson, like Clemson, is one of the 128 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: biggest college football powers of my lifetime, of my adult lifetime, 129 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 5: certainly under Davo Swinning and all the success that they 130 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 5: were able to have, whether they were winning championships or 131 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 5: competing for championships and falling short because Alabama Nick Saban 132 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: were up against them, or Urban may On, Ohio State, 133 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: or whatever the case may be. Like Clemson in the 134 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 5: modern era, of college football. I think you have to 135 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 5: re examine how you view Clemson as a program because 136 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 5: they have not adapted to the times. They are no 137 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 5: longer equipped, or it doesn't seem that they're equipped to 138 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: compete at the highest level because they're not willing to 139 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 5: play the game, or at least Dabbo hasn't been willing 140 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 5: to play the game in the way that the game 141 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 5: is being played in or I guess the new way 142 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 5: that the game is being played. Right, This is the 143 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: thing that is so much fun to watch about Kurtzignetti 144 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 5: because I'm watching Nick Saban on television, and Nick Saban 145 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 5: is on television because he didn't want to He didn't 146 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 5: want to go through what the new college football is. 147 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 5: And that's fine, as is his right. He's he's done 148 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 5: what he needed to do. He is the greatest coach 149 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 5: in the history of the of that sport. If he 150 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: feels that he doesn't want to have to make these 151 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 5: certain kind of accommodations to continue to win at the 152 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 5: level that he's accustomed to winning at, or that he 153 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 5: expects to win at, as is Nick Saban's right. But 154 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 5: Kurtzignetti turned around and said, Hey, I'm gonna do it 155 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 5: with a bunch of three star dudes. I'm gonna get 156 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 5: him paid all over the place. I'm gonna go out 157 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 5: there and whip your ass with a talent profile. 158 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: What is that? 159 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 5: What is even Indiana's talent composite by like by by 160 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: recruiting class. I would venture a guest to say, and 161 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 5: there's a lot of transfer guys in there too, but 162 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 5: I would venture a guest to say that they are 163 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 5: outside of the top fifty, And I bet it's probably 164 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 5: further further below, like closer to closer to seventy than 165 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 5: it would be to fifty or something like that, which 166 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 5: is what makes this entire situation so insane. So you 167 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: can do this now, Kurtzignety is obviously a very unique 168 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 5: figure in the landscape of college football. I don't know 169 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 5: how many of those dudes are actually out there in 170 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 5: the way that this dude is that can can do 171 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 5: the kind of things for your your Vanderbilts, your Dukes. 172 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: Your. 173 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 5: I don't know what's another what's another college football program 174 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 5: that doesn't matter in a Power four conference? Pick whichever 175 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 5: one you want. Indiana is the best example in the 176 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 5: Big Ten, for sure. I don't know how many Kurtzignettes 177 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 5: there are to actually do this job the way that 178 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: he's done, and certainly not at the level that he's 179 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 5: done it at. I'm in Nashville, Fitz, he's in Connecticut 180 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: as we broadcast here with you on Fox Sports Radio, 181 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 5: and I had a bunch of calls FITSI on the 182 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 5: local show, maybe not a bunch of calls, a lot 183 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 5: of comments in the YouTube comments section of the local 184 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 5: show that we do here in Nashville, basically getting after 185 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 5: me a little bit because Vanderbilt had a really good season, 186 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 5: even though it didn't end well against Iowa yesterday, Power Iowa, 187 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,479 Speaker 5: So Diego, Pavia has the Heisman Trophy season and Vanderbilt 188 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 5: has the best season in program history still by the way, 189 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 5: and they should be happy. 190 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: And a ten win season for Andy is awesome. 191 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 5: It's only the second time they've competed in a bowl 192 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 5: game in back to back seasons in I think the 193 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 5: program's history. But a lot of Vanderbilt fans were kind 194 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 5: of giving me a hard time because they're saying, well, 195 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: if you put Kurt Signetti in the SEC, he'd be 196 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 5: doing the exact same thing as Clark Lee would at Vanderbilt, 197 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: like you have to grade on the curve of well, 198 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 5: the SEC is just a higher level of competition, and 199 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 5: I will acknowledge that that is something that more often 200 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: than not, if you said it, you would be correct. 201 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 5: But I also just watched Clark Lee and Vanderbilt, who 202 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 5: didn't make the College Football Playoff and who lost to Texas, 203 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 5: and Alabama lose to Iowa yesterday in the damn Relyoquest Bowl. Okay, 204 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 5: Kurtzignetti has Indiana double digit win seasons back to back 205 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 5: for the first time in program history. God knows, they've 206 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 5: never been the number one overall seat in the College 207 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 5: Football Playoff, favored against Alabama in the Rose Bowl in 208 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 5: ways that are outrageous, and the guy is potentially he 209 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 5: has a Heisman Trophy winner at quarterback who's probably going 210 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: to be the number one overall draft pick when all 211 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 5: of a sudden done, that is such a unicorn in 212 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 5: the landscape of sports. I don't know how anybody could 213 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 5: look at this and say, yeah, my program can do that. 214 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: All we have to do is just get the right guy. 215 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 216 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: I mean, the funny thing is, it's not about getting 217 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: the money, It's not about getting the players it's about 218 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: both and it's at some level. I just looked it 219 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: up and you know, twenty four to seven. With their 220 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: their recruiting rankings, Indiana is the thirty third ranked recruiting 221 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: class going into its high coming into coming in coming 222 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: into next year, no coming in next year. So with 223 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: all the success that they have had, they're thirty third. 224 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: They're behind Vandy right now, which is thirty second. They 225 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: have no five star recruits. They only have seven four 226 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: star recruits, the majority of these three stars, right, And 227 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: it's it's just so it's wild because everybody says, well, 228 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: you just got to go find the next Signetti. 229 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: I don't know that it's that easy. 230 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: I just there is something that's a little bit lightning 231 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: in a bottle with this Indiana team, and lightning in 232 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: a bottle with signetti. 233 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: With this Indiana team. And you know this is this 234 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: is also to me. 235 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: One thing I've said to you pretty consistently with Clark 236 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: leeam Bandy, for example, is show it to me with 237 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: another quarterback, right, like we need to see a different 238 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: person playing quarterback. 239 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: Indiana has done that. This is the street year. 240 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: That they've made the college football Playoff, right, Like, so 241 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: I feel like the tide no pun intendance has turned 242 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: a little bit on the conversation of Indiana. But until 243 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: they win a game like this, I mean, Indiana beating 244 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: Alabama at the Rose Bowl would then force us to 245 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: have a much different conversation because any other year, any 246 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: other year. 247 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: In college football, if we had just watched the. 248 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: Number two team in the whole college football playoffs who 249 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 2: happened to be the number one team all year, if 250 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: we just watch them go down in their first playoff game, 251 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: would the narrative not be all man The life just 252 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: got a lot easier for that one seed to go 253 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: win a championship. Like guess why, y'all, life just got 254 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,359 Speaker 2: a lot easier for Indiana to go win a national championship. 255 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: Oregon won today. 256 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: Indiana has already whooped a snot out of Oregon at Oregon, 257 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: so they ain't scared. 258 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: Oregon any way, shape or form. 259 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: Right, Ohio State's the toughest game they played all year, 260 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: and it came down to the wire in a big 261 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: Den championship game. 262 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: And Ohio State's gone from this thing. 263 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: So there is a very real clear path to Indiana 264 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: winning the college football Championship this year. I just don't 265 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: think until they get a win in a game like 266 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: they're about to play today against Alabama, it will get 267 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: the level of love that it deserves. 268 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 269 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 270 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 271 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 6: listen live. 272 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 273 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire 274 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: with Jason McIntyre. 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Hanging out with you Indiana 287 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: up ten to nothing over Alabama in the second quarter. 288 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: Bama with the ball, and the. 289 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: Entire state of Alabama is starting to feel a little 290 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: bit puckered up. 291 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Here's the thing. 292 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: We haven't seen a lot in this game, but here's 293 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: one common thread that we've seen throughout the course of 294 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: the college football playoff. Over the last twenty four hours, 295 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: we've had a bunch of playoff games, and it's. 296 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 3: Been really easy quickly to figure out which team was 297 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: gonna win. 298 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: All you have to do is ask yourself which defense 299 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: is flying to the ball more? Because I would argue, 300 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I wouldn't even are 301 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would argue with me. Miami's defense 302 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: flat out out played Ohio State's defense as good as 303 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: they are, and in the game earlier today, as much 304 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: as we were touting the greatness of Texas Tech, my god, 305 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: that Oregon defense was even better. Right, And so far 306 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: in this game, Indiana's defense has stepped up and made 307 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: the plays they need to make. 308 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: If I'm Bama, I'm starting to get a little bit nervous. 309 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 4: Book. We love it. 310 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 5: We love anytime we can cause great discomfort to the 311 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 5: state of Alabama. Respectfully, to our Fox Sports radio affiliates 312 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 5: in the state of Alabama, I am actively rooting on 313 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: your downfall today as in Indiana, Alum. It makes me 314 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: very very happy to see my team up ten to nothing, 315 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 5: But I also remember that Oklahoma was up seventeen to 316 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: nothing on Alabama, and so I fear that in the 317 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: back of my mind at this point in time, like 318 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 5: I'm just waiting for that moment. And maybe that's just 319 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: the way that that sports fans exist. Like you don't 320 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 5: you don't ever feel good about it until it's over right. 321 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: Why is that? Explain this to me. 322 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: Why is it that when your favorite team is ahead 323 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: by ten, you're like, no lead is safe, and when 324 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: your favorite team is down by ten, you're like, well, 325 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: we can never come back from that. Like it's it's 326 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: the same point differential, it's just a total different mindset. 327 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 5: Well, it's easier to do I think it's just like 328 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 5: it's an easier way to do the analysis that way, 329 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: rather than be. 330 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 4: Rational or. 331 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 5: Remove emotion from the situation, because that's you know, at 332 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,359 Speaker 5: that point, you're not being a fan. I am fascinated 333 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 5: to see today in this particular game with this matchup. 334 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: I've been and I've talked to you about this before. 335 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 5: I've talked locally, I've talked nationally about it. The idea 336 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 5: that Indiana's talent profile is so much lower, so much 337 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 5: less than Alabama's is So at what point am I 338 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 5: going to see? You know, these stud wide receivers for 339 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 5: Alabama just turn it on and do something that Indiana's 340 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 5: secondary is not capable of competing with because they're just 341 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: physically less. Now, Ty Simpson has to make more throws. 342 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 5: Ty Simpson has to be protected. They have to be 343 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: able to run the ball. For Alabama to be able 344 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 5: to have a balanced offense, they can't just get in 345 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: these dropback situations and expect to win. I mean, I 346 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: suppose they can, because they did it for a good 347 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 5: chunk of the season, but lately, no, I can't go 348 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: ahead that. 349 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: Point, though, buck is an important one, Like we're watching 350 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: Alabama right now get no balance in their offense. And 351 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: I said earlier the better defense is won every game. 352 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: I could take the flip side of that and say 353 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: the quarterback that was incapable of getting comfortable lost every game, 354 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: like Dante Moore was never really comfortable, but he handled 355 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: the game a hell of a lot better at Texas Tech. 356 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: Right, So you know there is some moment of you know, 357 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: Carson Beck. 358 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: One of the most surprising parts about the game that 359 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: we saw, like is how many times have. 360 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: I said I don't really trust Carson Beck? 361 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: Right, But man, Carson Beck flat he didn't look like 362 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: the moment was too big for him, Julian saying, did 363 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: look overwhelmed for Ohio State. 364 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: Right. 365 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: So to your point in this game, what I saw 366 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: in the second drive was a Fernando Mendoza that's starting 367 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: to get a little bit comfortable. What I just saw 368 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: on the response drive for Alabama was that we don't 369 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: have that same level of comfort here right now in Alabama. 370 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: So there is some I think you're onto something with 371 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,479 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in this Well. 372 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 5: It's it's just it's something that we've seen for Alabama, 373 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 5: like they've kind of been living dangerously for a while now, Right. 374 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 5: And at some point you have talked about this at 375 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: great length, I'm sure, not just on Yahoo, but in 376 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 5: every other place you're being asked college football question when 377 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 5: you do interviews or appearances or things like that. The 378 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 5: idea of Alabama they can they win. I'm not saying 379 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 5: that they're outright one dimensional, but there is one dimensional. 380 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 5: I mean, is there a more one dimensional offense in 381 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 5: the postseason right now based on what their season has 382 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 5: been than Alabama and their inability to run the football 383 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 5: and their perpetual existence in third and six plus. 384 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: No. No, you're one thousand percent right. 385 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 5: No. 386 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: And you know that's why I thought this was an 387 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: Indiana matchup opportunity before the injury to the defensive line 388 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: from the Big Ten championship, because all you got to 389 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: do is get after the quarterback, you can beat Alabama. 390 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, So at that point, I just don't think that's 391 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 5: a successful formula. 392 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I know that's a not successful. 393 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: Formula to having any kind of meaningful impact on a 394 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 5: game unless you just get into a situation where Oklahoma, 395 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 5: for example, isn't equipped to score with you and starts 396 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 5: to play a little more. I wouldn't say lacks on defense, 397 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 5: but starts to kind of ease up, ends up playing 398 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 5: a little bit more. 399 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 4: I mean, not to. 400 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 5: Cliche it too much, but the idea of bend, don't 401 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 5: break defense that allows you to continue to kill clock 402 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 5: versus being hyper aggressive and dictating matchups and sending pressure 403 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 5: and jamming at the line of scrimmage and all these 404 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 5: different things depending on game situation. I just don't think 405 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 5: that Oklahoma handled that moment particularly well and Alabama was 406 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: able to make them pay. Alabama is good enough to 407 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 5: still make you pay in that situation. I just don't 408 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: think Indiana's going to underestimate anybody at this point in time, 409 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 5: because this is the team, this is the program of 410 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 5: perpetual underestimation. 411 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: Be sure to check out your brand our brand new 412 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: YouTube channel. Just search Caveno in rich fs are on 413 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: YouTube beginning Caveno and rich FSR. Then hit the subscribe button. 414 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: Don't stop there. 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And you know 420 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: it's interesting too, because everything you're talking about is why 421 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: this gets more and more difficult. 422 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: I know, I understand that. 423 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: Alabama was just down seventeen nothing and I was ready 424 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: to talk my talk. 425 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: I was ready to go out there and totally this 426 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: Alabama team. 427 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: You've tried to kill them so many times this season. 428 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: I have I have. Look, it's because here's here's where 429 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: I am on Alabama. 430 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: I think Alabama's a very good football program, and statement 431 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: Alabama fans haven't realized yet that they're just a very 432 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: good football program. Like they're no longer this separate Like 433 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: I always go back to what Michael Junior told me 434 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: about Notre Dame walking off the bus. And we've heard 435 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 2: this before, but Mike told me first, and he said, 436 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: when you just watched the guys walk off the bus, 437 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: they were so huge, and the way they walked off 438 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: the bus, you just felt like, man, that's Alabama. Something 439 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: was different. And I think that's the certain little seasoning 440 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: that was left off when Saban left. So now you're 441 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: just a very good football team, and very good football 442 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: teams are fallible. I don't think as a program today 443 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: for the next five years, there's any real indication that 444 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: Indiana will be worse off than Alabama is. So it's 445 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: not that I'm trying to leave them for dead. It's 446 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: just that I no longer think they're special. So if 447 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they're special, then I think they can 448 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: be beat by special teams. Not special teams and special teams, 449 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: but by a special football program. This gets interesting now 450 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: because to your point, they lose, this is a big 451 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: drive for Nanna Mendoza has the ball back. We'll see 452 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: what Indiana can do with it. But at some point 453 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: you don't feel like you want to drop down to 454 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: a two score deficit to Indiana, because particularly this defense 455 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: is good. This defense is going to make it a 456 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: nightmare if they lose any semblance of balance. They being Alabama, 457 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: this is going to get really tricky for them. The 458 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: defense is going to have to step up and keep 459 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: them in the game until their offense can get any 460 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: dang rhythm. 461 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 5: Is there any sense to the idea or any would 462 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 5: you buy any anything to the effect of Alabama has 463 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 5: faced a good defense and come back from down seventeen 464 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 5: to nothing on a good defense in Oklahoma, and they've 465 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 5: had something. I mean, they did it again. Auburn is 466 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 5: bad this year, right, Auburn is not any kind of 467 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 5: any kind of competitive at least in terms of the 468 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 5: kind of teams that we're talking about, right, But they 469 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 5: had to come back in the Iron Bowl against Auburn 470 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: Alabama did. Is there any logic to the notion that 471 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: Alabama has been in a lot of these situations and 472 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 5: so just because they find themselves in these situations, that 473 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 5: they are battle tested and that they would just to 474 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: play again Devil's advocate. 475 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: I'm actively rooting against this idea. 476 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 5: I hope that Alabama that this is finally the place 477 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 5: where they slip up too many times, and Indiana is 478 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: the team that gets past them. I have an act 479 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: of rooting interest in this game, but I will acknowledge 480 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 5: that Alabama, with a good coaching staff and a lot 481 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 5: of talented players and a quarterback who is above average, 482 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 5: I wouldn't I wouldn't say that Ty Simpson is excellent, 483 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 5: but he's above average in the right circumstance. I just 484 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 5: I don't want to myself underestimate their ability to do this, 485 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 5: even though every time I watch them, I look at 486 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: them and say, yeah, But like, Alabama is the definition 487 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 5: of the yeah butt team to me this. 488 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: Year, and I think all of that is fair. In 489 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: the Sabman era. 490 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: Part of what made Alabama so hard to beat is 491 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: that everybody involved on both sidelines believed that Alabama was 492 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: going to find a way to get it done. So 493 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 2: it didn't matter if you were beating them or if 494 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: they were getting beat on the sidelines. 495 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: It's like, now we're fine. We are Alabama. We're gonna 496 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: be just fine. 497 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: I don't think this version of Alabama has that same 498 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: level of swagger, And even if they do, I don't 499 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: think that they have that same level of intimidate nation 500 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: factor to the opposite sideline, to just where their belief 501 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: carries over. I think part of where belief gets really 502 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: scary is when both sides look at it and say, 503 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: oh my god, man here, Like one of the things 504 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: about playing the Chiefs for years has been the minute 505 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: Matt Patrick Mahomes gets the ball with a minute and 506 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: a half, the players on the other sideline are just 507 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: like us watching it home. 508 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: They're like, oh, son of a biscuit, there goes Mahomes. 509 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: He's got the ball back right Like, there's belief all 510 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: the way across the board. 511 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: So I think that's where intimidation can actually that vibe 512 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 2: can turn into a result for these Indiana guys. I 513 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: just don't think they've been watching Alabama on film over 514 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: the course of this season and said, oh man, boy, 515 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: we can't let this team back in it like this, 516 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: You'd make the easy argument to me that Alabama is 517 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: at best their third best opponent this year. Alabama was 518 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: not tougher than Alabama neutral side at the Rose Bowl, 519 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 2: not tougher than going to Oregon, not tougher than taking 520 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: on Ohio State. I'm not even sure in their minds 521 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: it's that much tougher than going two Penn State was. 522 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 5: Which, by the way, it's winning at Penn State is 523 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: something Indiana has never done as a program. 524 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: That's the first time it's happened in history. And they 525 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 4: almost slipped up there right. That was the. 526 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 5: Amari Cooper Mendoza comeback situation where Mendoza didn't play his 527 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 5: best game through an interception, put them behind and had 528 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 5: to dig themselves out. But to again talk about battle tested, 529 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 5: that was the stub your toe moment that they were 530 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 5: able to survive in ways that for example, Vandy at 531 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 5: Texas or at Tuscalosa was not able to do, or 532 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: Tennessee had some moments like that missing a field goal 533 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 5: against Georgia where they had them in a back and 534 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: forth overtime game, Like so many different moments of this 535 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 5: where Indiana has broken through that way, and so many 536 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: other programs, so many other teams this season have fallen short. 537 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 5: I think that Signetti has Indiana thinking that they're Nick 538 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 5: Saban's Alabama, and not just because Signetti was on that 539 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 5: Nick Saban Alabama staff as a wide receivers coach and assistant. 540 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 4: Head coach like he is. 541 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 5: He is a figure here who gives them that kind 542 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 5: of what's the word, and it permeates everything that they do. 543 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: And like, you know, Mendoz is a bit of a 544 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 5: a I don't even know how to describe him. I 545 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 5: was talking to an NFL executive about him today as 546 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 5: a matter of fact, and just the the quirkiness of 547 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 5: him that is going to be picked at a little 548 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 5: bit in the upcoming draft process, Like can somebody with 549 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 5: that kind of a personality And it's not a bad thing, right. 550 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 5: He's just a goober, you know, and he's clearly highly 551 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 5: intelligent and very serious about football. And if you're those 552 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: two things, then you have a good chance as long 553 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 5: as you're you know, tough enough to handle going to 554 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 5: bad organizations like cam Ord with the Titans or potentially 555 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 5: Mendoza with the Raiders or any of these other Browns 556 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 5: washout quarterbacks that we've seen over the past couple of years. 557 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: I am. I am looking at the idea of Signetti 558 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 5: and just how ready he has them at every turn. 559 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 5: They seem prepared for every scenario under the sun. And 560 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 5: it's because that is very rare context that a I mean, 561 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 5: what a Signetti's sixty two, he's sixty three. He's a 562 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 5: very Again, this is a very unicorn type of situation 563 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 5: have that that kind of a veteran coach only in 564 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 5: year two of his tenure at a power for program 565 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: that has them winning and clicking at the highest levels 566 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 5: because he's he has seen it and experienced it all 567 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 5: at a different version of that, but getting to do 568 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: it from the back seat and watching Nick Saban go 569 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 5: through it, and then taking that to where did he go? 570 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 5: He was at like India, some kind of Indiana directional school, 571 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 5: and then he went to JMU and then he's at 572 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 5: Indiana and people are laughing at him because, oh, what 573 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: are you going to do in Indiana? 574 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: What do you mean? 575 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 5: Ohio State and Michigan suck to not just Purdue. When 576 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 5: he's getting people gassed up at a basketball game, like 577 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 5: who is this guy? You know that's what I said. 578 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 5: I was like, Hell, is this guy the Google me guy? 579 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 5: Right turns out Google results when you google card SIGNETI 580 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: pretty good. 581 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: Now Google Me and the Googer quarterback together are ahead 582 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: ten to nothing right now, Google Alabama Buddy Cup. 583 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 584 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot 585 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 6: com and within the iHeartRadio app. 586 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: Just when Alabama looked like they had him, they don't 587 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: have them anymore. Indiana converts for a big first down buck. 588 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 2: We were talking earlier about Lamar is gonna play and 589 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: what it means for the Ravens and the Steelers moving forward. 590 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: But there is one reason why I look at this year, 591 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: particularly with the Ravens, and I just I hate one 592 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: thing about the result that we're likely to see. I 593 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: think we can both agree that right now it would 594 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: be a surprise if the Ravens won the Super Bowl. Unfortunately, 595 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: we talk so much about Super Bowls and championships and legacies. 596 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: All I keep thinking about with Lamar coming back in 597 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: is the opportunity lost because there's no Chiefs in the playoffs. 598 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: This year, everything went to hell in a handbasket. For 599 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 2: Kansas City, which is fine, that's fine, right, But so 600 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: much of my conversation about when we talk about championships 601 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: has been, hey, you have to acknowledge who else is 602 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: in the league at the time. So, yeah, Josh Allen 603 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: doesn't have a championship, Lamar j doesn't have a championship. 604 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: Okay, well, of course they don't. 605 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: They're taking on the best head coach, with the best 606 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: quarterback of his generation, with the best defensive coordinator right now, 607 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: like all of these things that wants on a Chiefs 608 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: team that just keeps winning Super Bowl after super Bowl, 609 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: they're hogging all the championships. They're hogging all the Super 610 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: Bowl appearance. It's one thing that really stands out to me, 611 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 2: though about opportunity lost for the Ravens if they're not 612 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: able to get into the playoffs, if they're not able 613 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: to go on a run. Is this was one of 614 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: those years where the window is open. I mean for 615 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: the Joshs and Lamars that simply don't get a lot 616 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: of shots at championships because of the Mahomes. 617 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: You got to take. 618 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: Advantage of the window when it's even cracked open. It's 619 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: wild to me to think that, right, now Vegas thinks 620 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: there's a better chance that Drake May is going to 621 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: go home with the Super Bowl ring than any of 622 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: these quarterbacks that we constantly talk about as MVPs that 623 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: need these sort of moments, because that will avenge in 624 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: twenty years. It'll be part of the context of how 625 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: we look at this era of quarterback. 626 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 5: Man, Well, can I can I pivot the conversation real quick, 627 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 5: just based off the Drake May thing, Not that I'm 628 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 5: not interested and what you just asked me, but I 629 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 5: wonder what you make of the Drake May Matt Stafford thing, 630 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 5: because Matt Stafford played that game on what was that 631 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 5: Monday night Football against the Falcons and the Ram loss. 632 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: Rams lost. He threw three interceptions. 633 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 5: You and I have talked about this at some point, 634 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: I'm sure in the Overnight show that we did the 635 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 5: other night for Jason Smith and Mike Carmon. But is 636 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 5: there a scenario in which Drake May is just has 637 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 5: Drake May really earned MVP consideration, like truly and honestly 638 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 5: earned MVP consideration, Because I saw last year Lamar Jackson 639 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 5: earn real MVP consideration and still lose it. Anyway, the 640 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 5: best season of Lamar Jackson's career and he lost the 641 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 5: MVP after having two MVP awards where he had played 642 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 5: football at a lesser level. Drake May is fine. Drake 643 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 5: May has been. I mean he was dominate against the 644 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 5: Jets in the last time that we saw him. So 645 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 5: I'm not and listen, like, you go out there and 646 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 5: you beat whoever's asked you want to you that's across 647 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 5: from you, and and that's all you can do at 648 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 5: that point in time. I'm not down on Drake May 649 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 5: by any stretch of the imagination. I just think it's 650 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 5: so bizarre that, like one sample size of Matt Stafford 651 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 5: throwing three interceptions late in the season, when the Rams 652 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: are still probably the best team in football top to bottom, 653 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 5: would just completely crater Matt's I mean not completely crater, 654 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 5: but like completely put him so far behind Drake May, who, 655 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 5: as you mentioned earlier in the show, has a record 656 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 5: the same record as Jackson Dart against teams with a 657 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 5: winning record so far this season, and the Patriots have 658 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 5: i think the easiest schedule in the NFL. 659 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, here's I'm going to oversimplify my 660 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: answer to your question, because fun I get answered, I 661 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: get asked all the time, you know about hall of 662 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: Fame status for guys? Is this guy a hall of famer? 663 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: It's a it's a common barbershop conversation. My answer to 664 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: that is really almost never about stats, because stats from 665 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: every error are so difficult to digest. 666 00:30:59,400 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 4: Right. 667 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: My answer to that question, more often than not is 668 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: when the schedule comes out and you're a fan of 669 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: a team and you look at the schedule for years, 670 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: if you open up the schedule and you're like, man, 671 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: what was the thing you said, God, we gotta take 672 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: on Brady, God, we gotta take on Peyton. Part of 673 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: the reason that I've never really felt like for me, 674 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: Eli isn't really what I think of as a Hall 675 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: of Famer, even though he has some big accomplishments in 676 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: his career, is I don't remember everybody, at anybody ever 677 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: starting the year saying, oh damn, man, we gotta take 678 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: on Eli this year. God, I don't know how we're 679 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: gonna beat Like I grew up saying Oh my god, 680 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how you're gonna beat l Way Right now. 681 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: I constantly look around and say, oh, mahomes, how am 682 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: I gonna beat mahomes like, and frankly, I just don't 683 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: think that that is the mind. Most of us are 684 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: not looking at this playoff run that's about to happen 685 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: and saying. 686 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, how are you gonna take down Drake? Like, 687 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: how is that gonna be possible? 688 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: I think part of the reason that more fans and 689 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: more just people that watch are scared of Josh Allen, Like, 690 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: and the Bills have not had a better year than 691 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, and they both played soft schedules. 692 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: That's fine, but I've seen moment after moment after moment 693 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: where it's like the Bills just rolled the ball out 694 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: and said, Josh Allen, go do something, and then he's 695 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: forced to be Superman and do fifty two things that 696 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: you just can't even figure out how to stop. And 697 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you end up in this 698 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: situation where you're like, oh, that's Josh Allen for you. 699 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: Drake May's had some nice plays. I just don't Drake 700 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: May doesn't sit there. I don't sit up all week 701 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: saying oh my god, we have to play Drake. 702 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: May this week, Like that's some my mindset around it. 703 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 4: I just want to see him really tested. 704 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 5: Like I guess, I guess it's one of those things 705 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 5: where maybe he's capable of that because he's obviously a 706 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 5: plus athlete, and he's got a great harm and he's 707 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 5: elevating the team around him, and Josh McDaniels has obviously 708 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 5: done a great deal of good for him. As Indiana 709 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 5: breaks a long one touchdown, John Dead buried gone backup quarterback, 710 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 5: starting quarterback, all of you take your bomb asses back 711 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: to Alabama. Oh that feels so good. That was outstanding. 712 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 5: It is now thirty to three, pending the extra point 713 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 5: with fourteen twenty one to play in the fourth quarter 714 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 5: of the Rose Bowl. 715 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Back to your regulation pro. 716 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: That is, you were asking for Drake May to be tested, 717 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: and then we watched Alabama get buried. I think that 718 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: there's like both are fair, so would I guess for me, 719 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: there's just no no one moment that. If I was 720 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: making a storyboard of the Patriots season and somebody turned 721 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: around and said, ooh, put all the MVP Drake May 722 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: moments up there, I don't know. 723 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: I struggle to find some of them. 724 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 4: Mmmm, Drake May's MVP moment. 725 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: I mean, we always talk about the Heisman moment, right, 726 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: like what is now? 727 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 5: We don't really do MVP that way, although Stafford just 728 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 5: had a moment that cost him apparently the MVP. 729 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, if one bad game can take you out of it, 730 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: then give me the great game with everything on the 731 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: line where it was just oh my god, gotta have 732 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: it where Drake May And the answer to this is 733 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: probably the Bills game. 734 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 5: And yeah at Buffalo, I mean just just top to 735 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 5: bottom at Buffalo. 736 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: And all of this sounds like I'm a Drake May hater, 737 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 2: Like I'm not a Drake May Hayter. I think Drake 738 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: May is developing into one of the great young quarterbacks 739 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 740 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 3: I think that's really fair to say. 741 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: I also think, just like you and I've talked about people, 742 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 2: how when we get into these playoffs, it's all gonna 743 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: be about what Josh Allen hasn't accomplished in the playoffs 744 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: with the Bills haven't done in the playoffs. When Lamar 745 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: gets on the field, it's gonna be, ah my god, 746 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: if the Ravens make the playoffs, oh my god, Lamar's 747 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: got to show something because you know, we haven't seen 748 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: Lamar do in the playoffs. What the hell have we 749 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: seen from Drake Maya, What in the hell have we 750 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: seen from Drake may in the playoffs to give any 751 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: indication if we're gonna sit here and chied everybody else 752 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: for their playoff results. I just want that to keep 753 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: that same energy for Drake. 754 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. 755 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 5: I think it's fair, and I listen, I'm not The 756 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 5: Patriots have been in the news this week for reasons 757 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 5: that are beyond Drake may and MVP voting and things 758 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 5: like that, But I I don't want to discount what 759 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 5: the Patriots are doing, what what that staff, and what 760 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 5: that roster have contributed to do for an organization that hasn't, 761 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 5: you know, hasn't had a lack of success by any 762 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 5: stretch of the imagination, though they've been on harder times 763 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 5: by their own standards here lately, it is deeply impressive. 764 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 5: I don't care what your caliber of competition is. What 765 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 5: what did their streak end at before they lost to 766 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 5: the Bills ten in a row? 767 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 4: They won ten straight games in the NFL. 768 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's difficult no matter who you're playing at 769 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 5: the professional level. So it is if you wanted to 770 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 5: say honestly, Fitzy, I might argue that, if you wanted 771 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 5: to argue Drake May's MVP moment, it's ten consecutive wins 772 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 5: as an NFL starting quarterback for a team that won 773 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 5: what three games last year? 774 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 4: Did the Patriots. 775 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also a team that Vegas thought was 776 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: going to win ten. Like the Vegas over under total 777 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 2: coming into the season was double digits. 778 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: So like, ye, crazy, I looked at that. 779 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 4: That was insane. But I mean, Vegas clearly smarter than us. 780 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: Vegas laked crown and said, oh, this schedule is really bad. 781 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: They're gonna win a bunch of games. I mean, so 782 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: they are who they thought we thought they were. Like, 783 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm torn on all of this because 784 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: so often the head coach of the year, the MVP. 785 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: It all comes from the story that we didn't expect, 786 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: and like, I get it, and I get that we're 787 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: always in love with shiny new toys. I just at 788 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: times think that we could simplify all of it and 789 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: just look for you know, I don't know who's the 790 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: player that if you tell the story of this season, 791 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: who's the player that had the most moments that you 792 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 2: just absolutely have to have to tell that story.