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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lollly, he is Matt Williamson
Speaker 1: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and
Speaker 1: met Chris Trapezzano on on CBS sports dot Com wrote
Speaker 1: an article about the drafts and how teams should should
Speaker 1: copy Super Bowl champion Chiefs by adding similarly skilled prospects. Well,
Speaker 1: I read through this, the first thing I noticed is
Speaker 1: that none of his similarly skilled prospects happened to be
Speaker 1: pat my homes. Let's go get him next my homes.
Speaker 1: So in that regard, I look, I look at this
Speaker 1: article with just a bit of a green assault, like,
Speaker 1: if you don't have my homes, does this stuff really work? No?
Speaker 1: I mean I haven't read that, haven't clicked on it.
Speaker 1: But the answer is, you know, I mean, um that
Speaker 1: they have a great roster. No, I mean I think
Speaker 1: that they have changed their philosophy to fy a little
Speaker 1: bit during my Home's era of we have such a
Speaker 1: good quarterback, if we can protect him pretty well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a really good offense. I'm much certain it
Speaker 1: matters who the top receivers are. As long as we
Speaker 1: have a star receiver, doesn't really matter who the running
Speaker 1: backs are. And that's the mold on offense. You know. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: so I do think you have to look at that
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, unless you have Pat Mahomes, this might
Speaker 1: not work for you. If you like, if you're you're
Speaker 1: trying to have you know, build the Chiefs game planner build,
Speaker 1: but the Chiefs have, but you're trying to do it
Speaker 1: with anyone else Joe average quarterback. I don't know that
Speaker 1: this works right, right, right? I mean I'm game from it,
Speaker 1: but right I hear it that being said, his first
Speaker 1: thing was getting overwhelmingly big left tackle. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know that that is necessarily a recipe for success. I
Speaker 1: tend to think I'm gonna disagree with it. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it doesn't work. But we talked a little last
Speaker 1: segment about where do these teams go from here? You know,
Speaker 1: the Eagles have a bunch of free agents. Casey doesn't
Speaker 1: have much, um but Orlando Brown is one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a dilemma to me, is do I want him
Speaker 1: to be my left tackle? He's on the franchise tag.
Speaker 1: Now you know the Chiefs, unlike Philly, do not have
Speaker 1: an early pick. The chances of you finding your future
Speaker 1: left tackle at thirty one is unlikely, particularly in this draft.
Speaker 1: You don't want to trade a bunch of picks to
Speaker 1: move up because you know you're gonna need them to refin,
Speaker 1: you know, to keep restocking the supplies because you're gonna
Speaker 1: have so much invested in your stars. So do you
Speaker 1: pay Brown more than he's worth? I know that's not
Speaker 1: exactly what this article is going at, but he's not
Speaker 1: for me. There's many more styles of left tackles I'd
Speaker 1: take over Orlando Brown. Yeah, well, he looks at twenty
Speaker 1: prospects who fit the mold of Orlando Brown. Okay. One
Speaker 1: would be Ohio States to one Jones. The other one
Speaker 1: is Tennessee's Darnell Right Okay, okay. Both think those guys
Speaker 1: are right tackles. I mean, could they switch. Well, that's
Speaker 1: what Orlando Brown was. Everybody looked at Orlando Brown and said, well,
Speaker 1: he's just a right tackle, and then he got uncomfortable
Speaker 1: with that and wanted to go as part of the
Speaker 1: reason he got traded. I think either one of these
Speaker 1: guys um right Jones could probably go to the left
Speaker 1: left side, especially if that's the day you drafted him.
Speaker 1: You told them, hey, we want you to practice left,
Speaker 1: not right. Um, but I don't know that that's the
Speaker 1: only way to skin a cat in terms of offensive
Speaker 1: tackles that you want. I mean, but they are big,
Speaker 1: hulking guys, and no one's bigger than Jones from higher state. YEA.
Speaker 1: His second thing is find a thick super experience center
Speaker 1: in the more of Creed Humphrey. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: I don't know Creed Humphrey is super experience. He was
Speaker 1: experienced at the college level. I still think he's I
Speaker 1: still think he's somewhat overrated. M I don't think he
Speaker 1: is one of the top the top two three centers
Speaker 1: in the league. I think he's maybe in the top
Speaker 1: five to six. I I think he gets a little
Speaker 1: more love than maybe he deserves because of Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 1: I think that I think Pro Football Focus loves him
Speaker 1: and there for people who don't know anything about offensive line,
Speaker 1: place and what he must be good because they say
Speaker 1: he is, yeah, regardless, okay's overrated to you know, yeah
Speaker 1: that kind of right. So prospects that fit that role.
Speaker 1: John Michael SCHMIDTZ. I would say that's the obvious one.
Speaker 1: Michigan's Altho sugan aloa Tommy team or however have you
Speaker 1: pronounced that name. It makes feelings about him at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Yeah. And then Arkansas is Ricky Stromberg. He's
Speaker 1: a guy. We haven't talked about it at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know him yet. Okay, so he said those guys,
Speaker 1: those guys have the the same prospect or experienced level
Speaker 1: as Creed Humphrey. Okay. Um, A couple of notes on
Speaker 1: that is, I remember Humphrey being a three year starter,
Speaker 1: which is big. It's such a mentally and mature position
Speaker 1: center that I do think experience is quite important. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to have it, but it's a
Speaker 1: nice plus. If you've played a lot of snaps, you've
Speaker 1: been in charge your offensive line for two plus years,
Speaker 1: you're making all the calls, You've seen a variety of defenses,
Speaker 1: You've played in big games, sort of like quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: I do think experience is important there. Um. I will
Speaker 1: say the Michigan kid who I can't pronounce his name,
Speaker 1: is considered the leader of the O line that won
Speaker 1: the Joe Moore Award this past year in Michigan. So
Speaker 1: I do think that's certainly a feather in his cap.
Speaker 1: And John Michael Schmidt's demizes this. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: he's a three year starter, durable, tough, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't The thick part is fine, But I think
Speaker 1: Curien's is interesting. They said Humphrey had more than had
Speaker 1: just over snaps in his career with with Oklahoma, Schmitz
Speaker 1: has right under. Okay, interesting, So I know Steeler fans
Speaker 1: still get caught up in the whole Creed Humphrey thing.
Speaker 1: Right that year came down to the Steelers. Could they
Speaker 1: have taken Creed Humphrey. Sure, And when we were on
Speaker 1: the air, you and I were saying, oh this this
Speaker 1: pict should probably should be Creed Humphrey. Yeah. Now, I
Speaker 1: think if the Steelers had taken Creed Humphrey, there a
Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey wouldn't be getting the accolades that he is
Speaker 1: right now. Probably not because he wouldn't have Pat Mahomes
Speaker 1: playing with Again, Mahomes covers up so much stuff that
Speaker 1: you know, just but be they wouldn't have Pat fire
Speaker 1: moves right now, right, I think fire Moss incredibly important.
Speaker 1: I think he's uh, you know, if you if you
Speaker 1: looked at the plays again that the tight ends made,
Speaker 1: not just in that game Sunday in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but through over the course of the playoffs. Yeah, teams,
Speaker 1: the teams that had the good tight ends continue to
Speaker 1: advance throughout the playoffs. Yep. It's really been a thing
Speaker 1: for the last five ten years to Gronk, and you know,
Speaker 1: there a lot of these great tight ends that want
Speaker 1: a lot of games. Yeah, I think that's a I
Speaker 1: think that's an underlooked thing about that position. Like you
Speaker 1: look at it and say, boy, there's just there just
Speaker 1: aren't very many good tight ends in the league. And
Speaker 1: then you look into the playoffs and like all the
Speaker 1: teams with the good tight ends are still playing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it can't be coincidence. And I don't think you're suggested
Speaker 1: in Friar moves the next Kelsey or Gronk, but he
Speaker 1: could be got her. Yeah, absolutely in that year. You know,
Speaker 1: that's a valuable guy. Yeah. So, I mean I think
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at that, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and is put it this way, if you had Creed
Speaker 1: Humphrey right now, would you have a starting tight end
Speaker 1: who was of the same level as Mason Cole, Right,
Speaker 1: I mean it wouldn't be Gentry, that'd be somebody else,
Speaker 1: somebody else. Yeah, would you have signed Evan Ingram pretend
Speaker 1: the ten million dollars that you're nine million that he
Speaker 1: got from Jacksonville? Probably not? Probably not right. And he
Speaker 1: doesn't he doesn't blocked anybody anyway. Yeah, yeah, And you know,
Speaker 1: we did so much draft prep for that, and we
Speaker 1: were we were high on Humphrey. You know, we knew.
Speaker 1: I didn't dislike Humphrey, right right right. I just think
Speaker 1: he's slide. You just think he gets overrated because he's
Speaker 1: just because because of pro football focus, right right. And
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you mentioned because I think we were
Speaker 1: on the air when the Steelers were on the clock
Speaker 1: and thought Humphrey seems like a pretty logical pick here.
Speaker 1: It would be all happy with that. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: They need a center. But I think people need to
Speaker 1: realize to that draft class had Kyle Pitts, who was
Speaker 1: not in the picture at all, the Stealers. We knew
Speaker 1: he was gonna go very very early Friar Muth and
Speaker 1: really nothing else on. And I mean in terms of
Speaker 1: tight ends, that were impact guys are gonna be early
Speaker 1: picks in any manner. And I know Green didn't work
Speaker 1: out at center, but there was five or six centers
Speaker 1: in that class, starting with Humphrey down to Green, that
Speaker 1: we're all intriguing. You know, you're not gonna hit on
Speaker 1: all those guys. They could have just as easily taken
Speaker 1: a you know, a tight end in round three or
Speaker 1: four and maybe not hit on that guy. No, that's
Speaker 1: just that, that's just the reality of the draft. He
Speaker 1: just don't know. And I'll say this as well, it's
Speaker 1: and it's kind of the Tom Brady argument. If if
Speaker 1: the Chiefs had thought that Creed Humphrey was was, you know,
Speaker 1: the the a the what he's what he said to
Speaker 1: be that the one of the top two or three
Speaker 1: centers in the league. He was their second second round
Speaker 1: draft pick that year. They didn't. They didn't take him
Speaker 1: with the first second round draft pick. They took Nick Bolton. Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I mean, he wasn't a pounced
Speaker 1: he like prospect. No, he was not a slam dunk, right,
Speaker 1: even not a slam dunk one of several good center
Speaker 1: prospects that year. Uh, Okay, so the next thing on
Speaker 1: here find a lightning charged later round running back like
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco. Okay, the guys who the guys who you
Speaker 1: say fit that role to Lane's Taija Spears, East, Caroline
Speaker 1: is Keaton, Mitchell, I don't know him yet, and Pitts
Speaker 1: Israel Abaconda m hmm, not too good. The two that
Speaker 1: I know of the Pit and Tulane guys absolutely fit that. Bill.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna get Spears as late as
Speaker 1: they got Pacheco. No, I don't think he's going in
Speaker 1: the seventh round in order. I think the other two
Speaker 1: guys will go in the seventh round, right, right, right right.
Speaker 1: I don't dislike the idea though, I mean rahe mosterd,
Speaker 1: I mean some just talking about cheap explosive guys. I
Speaker 1: mean everyone in the world knows that the theory about
Speaker 1: not investing in running backs. We don't need to go
Speaker 1: down that road. Everyone's heard that theory. But if you're
Speaker 1: I don't mind having the explosive guys that I have
Speaker 1: very little money or draft picks tied up in because
Speaker 1: they get hurt, you know, like the most parts of
Speaker 1: the world and Mitchell and all the San Francisco guys,
Speaker 1: they've gone. When the hit Pacheco took last night was oh, like,
Speaker 1: Pacheco is a fine but I doubt he's on my
Speaker 1: fantasy team. I don't think he's not going to be
Speaker 1: a two kry guy. I don't think he's long for
Speaker 1: this world period, because he takes beating and he runs high,
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's not he's not built all that.
Speaker 1: He built more like a wide receiver than he has
Speaker 1: a running back. Absolutely, So if he's your seventh round guy, great,
Speaker 1: they'd be smart to draft another one too, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think the Steelers have something similar
Speaker 1: to that guy, maybe not quite as explosive and j
Speaker 1: La Warren and you got him for nothing and you
Speaker 1: have for nothing right similar investment. It probably won't work
Speaker 1: out this way, but it wouldn't break my heart if
Speaker 1: the Steelers took one of these backs, if it was
Speaker 1: the sixth round, you know, let me just add, dude,
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm not going to use the third
Speaker 1: round pick on spears. And they might already have that
Speaker 1: explosive guy in Anthony McFarland. We just haven't gotten to
Speaker 1: see as much as him. But the one game that
Speaker 1: he played last year, he made a h Isaiah Paceecko
Speaker 1: like impact. I think he averaged five yards of carry,
Speaker 1: had you know, a couple of catches for twenty yards.
Speaker 1: It It was intriguing. Let's put it that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see more. Uh. And then the final thing, long, disruptive,
Speaker 1: athletic defensive tackleing. Okay, like Chris Jones, he said, prospects
Speaker 1: that fit that role Jalen Carter obviously, Bowling Green's Carl Brooks,
Speaker 1: Mo morow Ojoma from Texas and Jalen Redman from Oklahoma. Okay,
Speaker 1: a couple of those guys I need to do some
Speaker 1: work on. I don't know that i'd call Brooks that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was an edge of Bowling Green a
Speaker 1: lot six three pounds. He's not going to stay on
Speaker 1: his feet at the next level, but he's not super long.
Speaker 1: Um yea. The Steelers also have that already as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say Cam Heyward epitomizes this or you know,
Speaker 1: um but I remember looking, you know, studying the Niners defense.
Speaker 1: Length in athleticism in their front seven really stands out,
Speaker 1: you know, Armstead and you know, just drafting dudes with
Speaker 1: long arms that can change directions. And I think more
Speaker 1: and more when I'm looking at front seven players, length
Speaker 1: in athleticism or higher and higher on my list every year.
Speaker 1: This is what the Steelers have done for years. They've
Speaker 1: had those six five six four or six five six six,
Speaker 1: three or four defensive defensive ends, the key sols, the two.
Speaker 1: It's the Haywards. I mean this, this is this has
Speaker 1: been what they've had. This is what they do. I
Speaker 1: mean louder Mill, I mean he hasn't yet, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he's exactly that. Leal's in that same mold. He's not
Speaker 1: quite as tall, he's six four, but he's still get
Speaker 1: the long arms and you can do some of those things.
Speaker 1: They have guys who fit that mold. They don't. So
Speaker 1: when I look at this, um, you know they don't
Speaker 1: have the big left tackle. But I think we both
Speaker 1: agree that that's not necessarily yeah, something that you have
Speaker 1: to have if you have an if you have an
Speaker 1: athletic left tackle, he'll be just fine, right right. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't oversize the biggest left tackle in the league. Guy.
Speaker 1: Just well, look, the Chiefs have a three and fifty
Speaker 1: pound left tackle. We should get one of those right, right, right?
Speaker 1: How much longer they'll have a three right tackle? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean I would I would change that criteria to
Speaker 1: an adequate left tackle. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, Ortlanta Brown
Speaker 1: is a lot of superstar at all. I mean he's
Speaker 1: not at all. I mean he's maybe a top fifteen
Speaker 1: yeah right, I mean I know that he has rare dimensions.
Speaker 1: But I would say, despite what they're paying him, and
Speaker 1: despite his reputation, I don't think you need Orlando Pace,
Speaker 1: you know, to to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: the thick experience center, well they now have a center.
Speaker 1: I think I think Mason Cole is a guy that
Speaker 1: you can win with. I agree, I agree. I also,
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers would prefer the thick, three plus
Speaker 1: pound Michael Schmidt's type guy. But the Eagles won a
Speaker 1: lot of games without the little short squatty. You know,
Speaker 1: they nobody can nobody can stop them in the in
Speaker 1: those third and short or fourth and short situations, much
Speaker 1: like the Steelers. I mean, the Steelers have that part
Speaker 1: of its out as well. Yeah, they're talking talking about
Speaker 1: that that Eagle short this is unstoppable. Well, the Steelers
Speaker 1: were pretty unstoppable and in third and fourth in shorts
Speaker 1: last year as well, phenomenal. In fact, they led the
Speaker 1: league in that. So quarterback sneak or or a big
Speaker 1: back or moving just moving people with your front without question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were very good with that. I do like the
Speaker 1: experienced side of things. Thick is up to you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers will prefer the thicker, stouter guy
Speaker 1: just the way they play. But you can win a
Speaker 1: lot of games with Kelsey Um the lightning charge. Later
Speaker 1: around running back, we talked about that they have one
Speaker 1: of those, and jay Len Warren they could add to that.
Speaker 1: I mean again, if if, if Anthony McFarlane hits this year,
Speaker 1: and and and people need to understand the reason why
Speaker 1: Anthony McFarland wasn't on the active roster was as much
Speaker 1: about Benny Snell's special teams abilities as anything. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's why he wasn't active at all on game
Speaker 1: days except for the one time when Jaln Warren was
Speaker 1: hurt and again did some good things in that game.
Speaker 1: And then finally the long, disruptive, athletic defensive tackle. Well
Speaker 1: they've got that. Yeah, they're on top of that. It's funny.
Speaker 1: What they don't have is my homes. That's thinking of
Speaker 1: the running back comparison here, unless they're like a mccaffree
Speaker 1: level receiver. I did my smaller explosive guys. I am
Speaker 1: not giving money, you know what I mean? Like I
Speaker 1: find those guys every year in the draft. Maybe even
Speaker 1: take one every year. Take a six or something round
Speaker 1: dude that'll run through brick wall for you, that runs
Speaker 1: a four three in the last eight games. That's what
Speaker 1: you knows. Do that, Yes, and they'll they'll take two
Speaker 1: running backs in the draft, right right. I mean if
Speaker 1: you look at the backs that they've had on their roster,
Speaker 1: it's like they just keep cycling through them. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's always the ladder of the two, Like they like
Speaker 1: Mitchell more than Sermon. And you know they draft a
Speaker 1: ton of them, which made the McCaffrey trade odd. You know,
Speaker 1: they're the ones that go through them left and right.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be doing that this year
Speaker 1: because they gave up a bunch of picks to get McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, it is what it is, a weapon,
Speaker 1: you know. So that brings me to the question, Matt, So,
Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes was on this year Steelers team. Are
Speaker 1: they a Super Bowl potential Super Bowl champion? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there are two. I think you'd say that about
Speaker 1: twenty teams probably. I mean, he's that good good like
Speaker 1: Houston wouldn't be, yeah, right, you know, um, but I
Speaker 1: think the Steelers were an easy one because the old line.
Speaker 1: Nobody would say the Steelers have old line issues, nobody.
Speaker 1: And Deonte would have ten touchdowns on zero, you know,
Speaker 1: would have had a hundred and twenty catches, you know, firm,
Speaker 1: firmouth catches, you know, nine passes for a thousand yards
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, George Pickens is probably Rookie
Speaker 1: the Year the year, right, he's that good, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and all the mental stuff he does now is and
Speaker 1: he did a lot at the line of scrimmage last
Speaker 1: night too that the rookies just and unable to do.
Speaker 1: You know. The he brings the band experience with the
Speaker 1: in his prime bend. You know, there's the other question,
Speaker 1: what pick Ben's best year of his career or Bend
Speaker 1: at his peaks of his powers. If you would have
Speaker 1: put him on this year's suiter class team that they
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, I think they're right in it.
Speaker 1: They would have been in it. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: why I look at this and and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I heard somebody making the argument last week when the
Speaker 1: NFL honor stuff was being announced. Um, I can't believe,
Speaker 1: you know, people were I can't believe Mike Tomlin got
Speaker 1: votes for Coach of the Year. They won fewer games
Speaker 1: this year than they did last year. They won, they
Speaker 1: won the same amount of games they have one less time.
Speaker 1: He didn't do a good job. He had a rookie
Speaker 1: quarter back, the rookie quarterback, and lost his best player
Speaker 1: very very early in the season, when nine games with
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterbacks starting the majority of games. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think many teams I would say going to tank
Speaker 1: or going to toilet, but easily would have would not
Speaker 1: have rebounded the second half of the season after that
Speaker 1: type of start. Yeah. I just I think that the
Speaker 1: you know, the arrow has pointed up with this team. Um,
Speaker 1: in regards to uh, the player Pickett Um, you know,
Speaker 1: the experience that he got this year. I just think it's,
Speaker 1: you know, they're ready to take a step. Could it
Speaker 1: be a an Eagles like step. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they can, if they're gonna be playing in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl next year. The a f C is still loaded.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, it's not easy, but I think I think
Speaker 1: they're definitely a playoff contender, much more so next year
Speaker 1: than they were this year. Right, I mean, the quarterback
Speaker 1: play is going to be better and assuming he stays healthy,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be a better player in year
Speaker 1: two than it was year one. The offense is gonna
Speaker 1: look exactly the same. In terms of the players, maybe
Speaker 1: add something. I mean, you're gonna add something of note
Speaker 1: and take it from there. I mean, I expect them.
Speaker 1: I think a reasonable expectation or progress everyone would be
Speaker 1: happy with is be a contender, you know, like make
Speaker 1: the playoffs and win a game, or play the Chiefs
Speaker 1: down to the wire in the first round, or you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like you see, I don't think
Speaker 1: people if they happen to play the Chiefs in the
Speaker 1: in the opening round of the playoffs and lost, where
Speaker 1: they played the Buffalo and lost, people still wouldn't be
Speaker 1: happy with that. No, they wouldn't. But if it was
Speaker 1: a game like last night that goes down to the
Speaker 1: wire and you just end up on the wrong end
Speaker 1: of it, Okay, you know, I just I just don't think.
Speaker 1: I just don't think a lot of people would be
Speaker 1: happy with that. They would still complain about Tom and
Speaker 1: not winning the playoff game again, right right, right him
Speaker 1: like going to going to Kansas City two years ago,
Speaker 1: but just another Toma playoff lost. Nobody was beating But
Speaker 1: I'll say this, that Eagles team last year, that's what
Speaker 1: you look at, went and got blown out in their
Speaker 1: first game with a young quarterback in his first playoffs start,
Speaker 1: and they got They got beat worse than the Steelers
Speaker 1: got beat. Yeah, with much uncertainty around the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: nobody thought. Nobody thought Jalen Hurts maybe outside of some
Speaker 1: people in the fantasy community. And even at that, they
Speaker 1: were looking at Jalen Hurts so well, he's gonna run
Speaker 1: for nine yards this year? Al right, al right, Nobody
Speaker 1: saw this version of Jalen Hurts coming. No. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had a tremendous offseason. They traded for A J. Brown.
Speaker 1: I don't expect the Steelers to get that much better
Speaker 1: as Philly did. Philly's roster went from a B to
Speaker 1: an A quarterback aside, Yeah, but Hurts went from a
Speaker 1: C minus to an A minus on his own merit
Speaker 1: not just because there's better people around him. Because of
Speaker 1: that natural advancement. As I always say, guys are allowed
Speaker 1: to get better, and I think that Kenny will be
Speaker 1: one of them. Oh, I actually absolutely. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: throw twenty plus touchdown passes next year and fewer than
Speaker 1: ten interceptions, I'll be I'll be shocked. Then it's time
Speaker 1: to work, right, you know what I mean. He doesn't
Speaker 1: make that kind of progression next year, I'll then I'll
Speaker 1: be then I'll be worried if it's you know, sixteen
Speaker 1: touchdown passes in eleven interceptions. Okay, Now, maybe he's maybe
Speaker 1: that's what he is. Yeah, maybe you look at and say,
Speaker 1: maybe he's a borderline starter or you know, But at
Speaker 1: this point, I think that the you know, given how
Speaker 1: we've seen him a manager game. Again, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't look too much at the well, he only he
Speaker 1: threw seven touchdown passes a season. Some of that I
Speaker 1: think was by design. I don't know that they were
Speaker 1: asking him to do a lot of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll all admit they need to score more
Speaker 1: points without a doubt, and we know all those things,
Speaker 1: and I expect those yeah, big plays and touchdown numbers
Speaker 1: to greatly increase. Yeah, but he's not getting to Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes level. No, that's to get back to this initial story.
Speaker 1: Unless you have Patrick Mahomes. I don't know that everything
Speaker 1: in this article works. That's it. Yeah, that's it's the
Speaker 1: boring one because everyone could write it over and over.
Speaker 1: You know. But could he be as good at quarterback,
Speaker 1: different style than Jalen Hurts is? I think so? I
Speaker 1: think so as well? Yeah, and be effective. Anyways, we're
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