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Speaker 3: Another week begins, Final four set, and chaos ensues. We've

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Speaker 3: Luca a Lakers Sons Luca as the suspension after his

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Speaker 3: sixteenth technical actually holds up for once after many false

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Speaker 3: starts in his history. So we've got that rolling on.

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Speaker 3: Smith out another couple of days. Hey, I'm Mike Carmen

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Speaker 3: alongside Vias Aaron Torres, our college buckets expert. You hear

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Speaker 3: him Saturday nights alongside Jason Martin here on the network,

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Speaker 3: joining us Aaron underscore. Torres is where you find him

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Speaker 3: in the twitters. Find me over at Swollen Dome and

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Speaker 3: you're a happy boy because you got your last second victory.

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Speaker 3: Your Yukon Huskies advanced Danny Hurley, skull, budding, people in celebration,

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Speaker 3: everybody crying for technical file suspensions and downright chaos. But

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Speaker 3: you did a show following mine on Sunday alongside Steve Hartman,

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Speaker 3: and I think you got back to your house right

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Speaker 3: about tip off times. Now it's going to block out

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Speaker 3: the rest of the world and enjoy what was a

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Speaker 3: chaotic in Twirlie. Never say it's over kind of moment

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Speaker 3: because those Yukon Huskies kept clawing, clawing back, and we'll

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Speaker 3: have a larger discussion about Duke in a moment. But man,

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Speaker 3: how did you celebrate? What did you go and do?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 7: First of all, I did leave this studio at five

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Speaker 7: o'clock Eastern time. I made it home with about seventeen

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Speaker 7: minutes left in the first half, which means that I

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Speaker 7: did not see a Yukon lead until there were what

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Speaker 6: What was the final three point four seconds something like that.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and so yeah, so how did I celebrate? I

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Speaker 7: actually did my own show, the Aeron Taurus podcast, immediately after.

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Speaker 7: I will readily admit that the analysis tonight will be

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Speaker 7: much better because I've had twenty four hours to process

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Speaker 7: it in not two minutes of yelling and screaming and

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Speaker 7: in my opinion, a little bit surreal. I still can't believe.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'll show you. I actually posted it on

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Speaker 7: number of people that just texted me holy s fill

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Speaker 7: And then, like I said, I started doing my own show.

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Speaker 7: And again, it really wasn't until about eight nine, ten

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Speaker 7: o'clock last night that I had time to really process

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Speaker 7: everything that happened.

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Speaker 6: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: Yukon going to its third final four and four years

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Speaker 7: and you know, listen, as somebody who was in the

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Speaker 3: Well, one of the things we talked about as we're

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Speaker 3: as we talked about our tournament bracketology, that it would

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Speaker 3: So we shorted the Duke stock as as a program

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Speaker 3: There might be more more analogies to run through. But

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well no, And I'll tell you this, the number

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Speaker 6: Not working well. It is not working out well for

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Speaker 7: You go back to last year, as you said, the

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Speaker 7: that came down to the final few seconds. Bill self

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Speaker 3: And that's the key, right, drawing back even and the

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Speaker 3: Yukon stalking and pacing them down. Right, we had this conversation,

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Speaker 3: to grow. Love him or hate him? Yep, love him

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Speaker 3: And it was funny the final call from the Duke side,

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Speaker 3: microcosm of I always want the Herman's head or inside

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Speaker 3: going on in that guy's head moment to moment, because

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Speaker 3: But at no point did that team fold. There are

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Speaker 3: it in, no doubt. But you got Caravan who didn't

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Speaker 3: the fray Friend of the show multiple time appearance here

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Speaker 3: with Jason and I making the big play to set

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Speaker 6: Now there's no doubt.

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Speaker 7: And I think that that is part of the story

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Speaker 7: If Yukon doesn't overcome a fifteen point halftime deficit, they

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Speaker 7: Weird dynamic of a lot of things had to go right.

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Speaker 7: But to your point, the other thing too is that

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Speaker 7: you know Yukon And he said, He's like, we expect

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Speaker 7: do think there is something to turney experience from the

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Speaker 7: day of Duke having those young guys, Caden Boozer to

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Speaker 7: doesn't call the timeout. There was just a lot of

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Speaker 7: I can't say he's never been in these situations, but

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Speaker 7: hasn't been in them as much Like I said, I

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Speaker 7: don't know that Yukon was the better team last yesterday

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Speaker 7: certain they weren't. But when big plays needed to be

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean to put it in perspective. You know,

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Speaker 3: you can check out the standings and the Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio Bracket Challenge. I was really good early. Sure now

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Speaker 3: it's all going to hell, But you can go to

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Speaker 5: great this year, and Mendoza doesn't have the longest resume

436
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Speaker 5: in the world, and it's not the biggest sample size,

437
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Speaker 5: and he's not the most elite you know, downfield throw

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Speaker 5: of the ball. There's a lot of things you can

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Speaker 5: nitpick that he's not a generational quarterback prospect. But because

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Speaker 5: this class is so poor, and because demand is so

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Speaker 5: high and not everybody can just afford to wait till

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Speaker 5: next year, and because there's two teams picking at the

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Speaker 5: top that need a quarterback, not just one. Like if

444
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Speaker 5: the Raiders for somehow not to take him, he's going

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Speaker 5: to the jetsa too. Like it all lines up for

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Speaker 5: this to happen, but it is do people evaluate him

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Speaker 5: the way they evaluated Andrew Luck. No, do they evaluate

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Speaker 5: him the way they evaluated Trevor Lawrence?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: Do they evaluate the way a lot of people evaluated

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Speaker 5: cam Ward. No, that is a reality, But it doesn't

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Speaker 5: mean that the guy you think might be second best

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Speaker 5: now all of a sudden gets pulled up too. Like

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Speaker 5: that part of it is where people are like, what

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Speaker 5: are we talking about here? Like, yes, Mendoza has some warts,

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Speaker 5: he has some flaws. Is he a true one one?

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Speaker 5: Probably not? But that doesn't mean that your version of

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Speaker 5: whose number two should be in the first round? Also,

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Speaker 5: and I don't think he's going to go in the

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Speaker 5: first round. And again I'm not thoroughly convinced he's the

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Speaker 5: second quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Taken Jason Locking for our guest Jason Smith Show with Me,

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Speaker 3: Mike Armin, Aaron Torres in for Jason uh Smith today.

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Speaker 3: You've followed Jason uh lok and for on Twitter at

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Speaker 3: Jason lockevourself confusing that gets I got Smith's and Jason's

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Speaker 3: all over the place of Jason and the random eron

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Speaker 3: that mixes his way in. All right, Sean McVay doing

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Speaker 3: a lot of talking. We almost traded Devonte Adams and

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Speaker 3: then Captain Kirk is he going to be the backup

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Speaker 3: to Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 5: You know, Collins wants a decent payday and I sort

472
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Speaker 5: of get that, and so he's not really in a hurry.

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Speaker 5: And I mean, I think there's still the possibilities something

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Speaker 5: maybe could happen with the Raiders that would give him

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Speaker 5: a path to playing right away and luckman Dosa doesn't

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Speaker 5: have to play week one and we buy a little

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Speaker 5: time there. So but like, could he end up there? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he could. I mean if Aaron Rodgers walks away or doesn't,

479
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Speaker 5: you know, gets too cute with that, could he end

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Speaker 5: up in Pittsburgh? Absolutely? Or could he just decide to

481
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Speaker 5: wait because people are going to get hurt. It's just

482
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Speaker 5: the nature of this business, and you see what happens

483
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Speaker 5: sort of down the road. I think he's clearly you're

484
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Speaker 5: just the best guy standing. But if your cousins, you

485
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Speaker 5: don't need to jump into a situation for a couple

486
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Speaker 5: million bucks where you kind of know you're the backup

487
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Speaker 5: right now when there could be an opportunity to start

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Speaker 5: and make considerably more than that.

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Speaker 7: Stand in the NFC West, see that basically, Trent Williams

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Speaker 7: and the forty nine ers appear to be at an impass,

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Speaker 7: and I was going to ask, I'd just be curious,

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Speaker 7: where are they at as an organization with all these

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Speaker 7: guys now in their early thirties, mid thirties, late thirties.

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Speaker 5: Take it away, Jason, Well, I think there's a window

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Speaker 5: closing here. Certainly as constructed the you know, the Kittles

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Speaker 5: and the Williams and all of that. I think that

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Speaker 5: group is nearing its end. And did they squeeze another

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Speaker 5: year or two out of print and get that done?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's possible, but the idea that they could

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Speaker 5: just wait and do it at the end of the

501
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Speaker 5: year and he'd be you know, we're right before the

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Speaker 5: season starts. You know, he'd be worried about money being

503
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Speaker 5: out there for you know, for him anywhere else, and

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Speaker 5: he'd just take what they have on the table. I

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Speaker 5: don't know, man, he's a pretty prideful guy. They can

506
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Speaker 5: be very stubborn and headstrong and sil can he. And

507
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Speaker 5: they clearly don't want to pay him at thirty six

508
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Speaker 5: million dollars, there's no two or I guess thirty three plus.

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Speaker 5: They don't want to do that, and they don't have

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Speaker 5: any intention of doing that, and he knows that there's

511
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Speaker 5: other teams, whether it's today, tomorrow, or the day before

512
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Speaker 5: the season starts, would look at him still as a

513
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Speaker 5: top five left tackle in this league and feel like

514
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Speaker 5: he's got another year or two. So it's certainly trickier

515
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Speaker 5: and a little more contentious than the forty nine ers

516
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Speaker 5: would have you believe. It's also at a point in

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Speaker 5: time where there is a considerable amount of time before

518
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Speaker 5: it has to be resolved and maybe they get it

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Speaker 5: was off, but they've had no shortage of clashes with

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Speaker 5: a number of players in recent years. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: one I would certainly say stay tuned on. That's that's

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Speaker 5: not a nothing burger.

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Speaker 3: Last one from the sheer entertainment value of it, back

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Speaker 3: to the Raiders, Tom Brady doing a podcast saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: he looked into coming back again. It's kind of fun,

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Speaker 3: if nothing, for a little bit.

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Speaker 5: More talking about it, right, he wants he's like as

528
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Speaker 5: much as he kind of acted like he didn't need

529
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Speaker 5: all this and was above all this, the fray and

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Speaker 5: you know, all the noise and all the stuff that

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Speaker 5: Ian Belichick would have been saying doesn't matter for years

532
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Speaker 5: and years and years. Boy, he certainly seems to really

533
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Speaker 5: want to be relevant and a part of these different

534
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Speaker 5: discussions and to let the world know about all these

535
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Speaker 5: different things going on with Tom Brady. Yeah, I can

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Speaker 5: imagine it happening. You'd have to disentangle himself from a

537
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Speaker 5: whole lot of things. Right, You've got a broadcast contract,

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Speaker 5: You've got this disagreement with Mark Davis, which maybe he's

539
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Speaker 5: having second thoughts about already. I don't know. He's not

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Speaker 5: playing football, but does he think in his mind that

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Speaker 5: he's probably somewhere between the fifteenth and twenty fifth best

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Speaker 5: quarterback in the world. He may very well still believe that.

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Speaker 5: Remember I'm selling him short there. Maybe fifteen isn't even

544
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Speaker 5: the anchored starting place.

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Speaker 3: Remember the old Costanza line, you're not lying if you

546
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Speaker 3: believe it's true. At Jason locking For, where you find

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Speaker 3: him in the twitterverse, want to bet with us and

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Speaker 3: all his other ventures there, Jason nas always we appreciate

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Speaker 3: you stopping on by, enjoy the week and hit.

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Speaker 5: Him hard always my pleasure. Thank you boys, me good buddy.

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Speaker 3: At Jason lockin For joins us each and every week

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Speaker 3: What's going on, Steve, Hello.

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Speaker 4: Gentlemen, Let's start with a couple football items. By the way,

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Speaker 4: Las Vegas will host the Super Bowl in twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 4: This year's season will end with the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 4: La Then February twenty twenty eight, Atlanta will host it,

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Speaker 4: and the College Football Playoff Selection Committee now includes former

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Speaker 4: coaches Gus Melson and Jeff Tedford. To Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers are starting Roki Sasaki tonight, Shohei Otani tomorrow

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Speaker 4: against Cleveland, and then Yoshinobu Yamamoto after that. So these

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Speaker 4: are the next three for the Dodgers. This will be

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Speaker 4: the first time in Major League history that a team

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Speaker 4: will start a Japanese born pitcher, in three straight games.

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Speaker 4: Right now in LA, the Dodgers are scoreless with the

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Speaker 4: Guardians in the top of the third. By the way,

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers opening game, which was on NBC last Thursday

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Speaker 4: night against the Diamondbacks, got a combined audience of three

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Speaker 4: point two million viewers, including streaming, largest for a national

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Speaker 4: opening day broadcast since twenty twenty, and that was going

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Speaker 4: opposite directly the Sweet sixteen of March Madness, the day

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Speaker 4: game opener Pirates at Mets, got two point three million.

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Speaker 4: Among the games in progress at Houston, Astros eight to

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Speaker 4: one over Boston and the bottom of the eighth leadoff

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Speaker 4: man Jose al Tuve four for four, four runs scored.

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Speaker 4: He has hit two solo home runs. The Yankees are

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Speaker 4: in Seattle, Mariners up one nothing on the Yanks in

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Speaker 4: the top of the fourth inning, and the Padres have

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Speaker 4: x Dodger Walker Buehler.

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Speaker 6: On the mound tonight.

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Speaker 4: He's trailing three to nothing to the Giants in the

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Speaker 4: bottom of the fourth. Earlier, the White Sox, who were

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Speaker 4: zero to three one at Miami, which had started three

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Speaker 4: to zero nine to four. White Sox Miguel Vargas six

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Speaker 4: RBIs in including a grand slam. Atlanta sent the A's

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Speaker 4: to another loss for nothing. That's an zero to four

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Speaker 4: record for the Athletics. Kansas City won its home opener

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Speaker 4: today three to one over Minnesota. Chris Boubach six innings

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Speaker 4: for the win. Tampa Bay Tonight a three to two

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Speaker 4: winner at Milwaukee, with a run in the top of

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Speaker 4: the ninth the loss to closer Trevor McGill. The Brewers

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Speaker 4: had been three and oh, Mets and Cubs each one,

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Speaker 4: and Toronto, which was three and oh, lost a home

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Speaker 4: game to the Rockies fourteen to five. Tonight. Rockies had

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Speaker 4: led two to one after five innings on FS one.

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati shut out Pittsburgh two to nine wins for Texas

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Speaker 4: and Washington. The Nationals won at Philadelphia thirteen to two.

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Speaker 4: Well Victor Wembenyama was good again tonight. In the NBA,

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Speaker 4: the Spurs have won ninth straight twenty five of their

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Speaker 4: last twenty seven games. After beating Chicago one twenty nine

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Speaker 4: one fourteen wemben Yama forty one points, sixteen rebounds, Phoenix

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Speaker 4: got thirty six points from Devin Booker and a victory

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Speaker 4: at Memphis one to one.

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Speaker 6: Oh five.

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Speaker 4: Atlanta ended Boston small three game winning streak, won twelve

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Speaker 4: one oh two. Hawks have won sixteen of eighteen the Celtics.

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Speaker 4: Jason Tatum was out for Rest tonight today he was

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Speaker 4: named Player of the Week in the East and at

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Speaker 4: Miami thirty points for Tyler Hero the Heat beat Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: one nineteen to one oh nine. Anthony Edwards is back

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Speaker 4: on the court for the Wolves tonight, returning after missing

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Speaker 4: six games with knee inflammation. Off the bench, he has

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Speaker 4: seventeen points. Minnesota is ripping the MAVs in Dallas one

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Speaker 4: oh seven to seventy eight mid fourth quarter. Also in progress,

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Speaker 4: Cleveland leads at Utah eighty five seventy six late in

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Speaker 4: the third. They just ended the third quarter of the

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Speaker 4: NCAA Women's Regional Final this game in Sacramento. One seed

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Speaker 4: South Carolina leads TCU forty nine forty one end of three.

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Speaker 4: The winner will face number one Yukon at the Final

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Speaker 4: four this Friday. It'll be UCLA against Texas this Friday.

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Speaker 4: Texas with Michigan in Fort Worth tonight seventy seven forty one.

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Speaker 4: Longhorns led mid fourth quarter sixty nine to twenty nine.

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Speaker 4: In that game. Of course, we can't forget that it's

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Speaker 4: just a week ago in the tournament that Yukon was

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Speaker 4: up seventy to fourteen on Syracuse in a tournament game.

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Speaker 4: This was not They weren't playing Lemoyne to start the season.

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Speaker 4: This was early third quarter of an NCAAA game. Yukon's

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Speaker 4: not only undefeated this year, they've won fifty four straight games.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, the Men's Final four is in

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Speaker 4: Innneapolis this weekend. That is this Saturday with the National Semifinals.

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Speaker 4: The first game Connecticut against Illinois six pm Eastern, then

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Speaker 4: Arizona against Michigan. After that NHL Pittsburgh an eight three

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Speaker 4: winner at the Islanders.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks so much, Steve. Coming up next,

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Speaker 3: in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike carmon Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 3: Me Mike Carmen. Aaron Torres in for Jason Smith tonight.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for giving us a few minutes of your time

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Speaker 3: And when you go off for a forty one point

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Speaker 3: sixteen boards, four assists, three block shots, six offensive rebounds

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Speaker 3: on the night, just ridiculous stats. Game in game out,

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Speaker 3: we talk about the overwhelming run they've been on. What

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Speaker 3: twenty seven and two their last twenty nine games for

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Speaker 3: the year, twenty four to two, eleven to three, shooting

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Speaker 3: fifty percent from the field, both ends of the court.

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Speaker 3: Just an amazing display. It's gonna get to that games

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Speaker 3: threshold for all the MVP chattery. So even though he's

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Speaker 3: fallen off, we've got Shay Gilgess, Alexander as the odds

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Speaker 3: on favorite and then some followed by Luca and then Wemby.

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Speaker 3: But night tonight, we just watched the heroics Aaron and

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Speaker 3: it's everything he was advertised to be and then some.

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Speaker 7: That was gonna be my question for you. I understand

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Speaker 7: why he was hyped in the manner that he was,

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Speaker 7: but to see twenty four eleven and three blocks per game.

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Speaker 7: And you know he quote unquote only plays twenty nine

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Speaker 7: minutes a game, understandably, so with that frame just turned

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Speaker 7: twenty two years old, I know what he was hyped

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Speaker 7: to be. Do you feel like he's been better than

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Speaker 7: you were expecting? Because to me, he has been. But

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Speaker 7: I'm curious your perspective.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question about it. I mean when when

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Speaker 3: you talk about defensively and justin giving us the stat

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Speaker 3: fastest double double in a game in history took eight minutes. Wow,

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Speaker 3: Now the bull stink. We stipulate to that, but it's

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Speaker 3: still amazing. Nonetheless, but oh that was tonight. It was

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Speaker 3: the fastest double double ever. I didn't realize. Goodness, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just an absurd level of efficiency in those twenty nine minutes.

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Speaker 3: And what the Spurs. We talk about the draft and tanking,

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Speaker 3: they've obviously if you've got a team that drafts well

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Speaker 3: and then the players outperform, and when min Yama night tonight,

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Speaker 3: the fact that he comes into the league and when healthy,

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Speaker 3: you get such a display on both ends. We lament

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Speaker 3: the lack of defense by certain members of the the

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Speaker 3: hierarchy in the NBA, and certainly that that's a part

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Speaker 3: of it. But also to have a big man that

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Speaker 3: can go out and just say, all right, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: shoot eight three point shots in a game, and I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna stretch the defense. So now everybody gets to operate

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Speaker 3: so much differently. It's such anag And every time that

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Speaker 3: he misses a game or we get one of the

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Speaker 3: health scares like we've had in the past, right when

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Speaker 3: we start talking about blood clots and other things, you

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Speaker 3: get nervous that you might get obviously for his health,

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Speaker 3: but for the health of the game and the growth

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Speaker 3: of new legends, that we don't get the full end

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Speaker 3: of what he could become because right now he's on

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Speaker 3: that ridiculous trajectory.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think the NBA, more than any other

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Speaker 7: sport at times, can be guilty of hyping guys before

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Speaker 7: it's justifiable, you know, And I've used the example many times.

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Speaker 7: There were people in our industry who were comparing Anthony

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Speaker 7: Edwards to Michael Jordan before he ever played in an

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Speaker 7: NBA finals. Last check, I don't believe he has played

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Speaker 7: in one yet, So that is maybe an extreme example.

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Speaker 7: But you know, every year a new guy blows up

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Speaker 7: in the playoffs, and he's the next greatest thing. Wemby

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Speaker 7: is the guy that you know, listen, it's hard to

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Speaker 7: you know, properly contextualize what we're seeing, but he is

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Speaker 7: the rare guy that, like everyone is saying everything about him,

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Speaker 7: whether it is already the biggest difference maker in the league,

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Speaker 7: you know, trajectory of this, how many of those MVPs

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Speaker 7: could he get? I think all of it is on

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Speaker 7: the table with him in a way that most other

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Speaker 7: guys that get hyped early in the NBA, that's not

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Speaker 7: the case.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's year three averaging twenty three and eleven a game,

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Speaker 3: three and a half blocks, three and a half assists,

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Speaker 3: like all of that to your point, playing on average

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Speaker 3: just thirty minutes a game, which is just incredible efficiency

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Speaker 3: when you get down to it. And again, the Spurs

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Speaker 3: rolling as they've done is one of those eyebrow raising

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Speaker 3: things in the league. Now does it transcend to a

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Speaker 3: championship like the Anthony Edwards. We're always just looking for comparables,

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Speaker 3: right going back a generation, and Wemby at seven four,

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Speaker 3: seven six, whatever he measures at, there's just not a

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Speaker 3: lot Like we've got to hold the one hundred up

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Speaker 3: and kind of hear it in our heads how it

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Speaker 3: happens because we don't have a video of it. Kareem's

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Speaker 3: a different player and the game has changed so many times, right,

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Speaker 3: it's different iterations to try to make sense of it,

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Speaker 3: and trying to make sense of him on a nightly basis.

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Speaker 7: Well, and you can't, cause I don't think that we've seen,

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Speaker 7: at least in a recent memory, anybody like him, this good,

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Speaker 7: this young, with this much upside still to come.

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Speaker 3: Even though we saw bull Bowl hit a couple of

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Speaker 3: threes now and again. Ah, he's Aaron Torres in for

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Speaker 3: Jason Smith. I'll Mike Harby coming up next. We get

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Speaker 3: back to the curious case of John Shire. Should he

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Speaker 3: be on the outs at Duke. We'll do it next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Honey Pitching tomorrow, Yamamono on Wednesday. So some historic stuff

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Speaker 3: for the Dodgers. We've got the NCAA Women's Elite eight

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Speaker 3: South Carolina all over TCU twenty four point lead, under

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Speaker 3: three minutes remaining.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 3: All roads lead to a date with Gino Oriama and

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Speaker 3: your Yukon Huskies. He went that decade or nearly a

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Speaker 3: decade of a bunch of final fours and also rans,

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Speaker 3: and now part two of the domination situation for gino Orima,

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Speaker 3: saying a lot of important things about the women's game

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Speaker 3: in terms of treatment and practice times and facilities and

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Speaker 3: all of those, and lamenting the fact that a much

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Speaker 3: like the Yukon men's game yesterday, trying to find a

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Speaker 3: three point shot that was on point for much of

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Speaker 3: the game, it was just a pipe dream.

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Speaker 7: I'm supposed to interview you kind of d Dave Benedict tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: He's a busy man right now. He's feeling pretty good,

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Speaker 7: flying back and forth between Phoenix and Indie this weekend.

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Speaker 7: But interesting, it looks like we're trending towards the same

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Speaker 7: final fours last year. And one question I think I

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Speaker 7: will ask him when I was growing up in Connecticut

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Speaker 7: from the women's side, Yukon Tennessee pat Summit, Gino Oriema,

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Speaker 7: it feels like South Carolina has replaced anyone as the

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Speaker 7: closest thing that the Yukon women have to arrival. South

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Speaker 7: Carolina was good this year. I know Texas had their

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Speaker 7: number a little bit, but should be a fun fight.

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Speaker 7: Should be a fun women's final four as well, in

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Speaker 7: addition to what will obviously be a really fun men's

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Speaker 7: Final four as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as we have Alex ty Shirts fighting Alon.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I just give so much.

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Speaker 7: I know how much he grinds the tape during the

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Speaker 7: regular season, looking for any edge that he can possibly get.

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Speaker 7: I'm just thrilled to see that hard work payoff, Tyson.

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Speaker 7: I'm really proud of you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Aaron.

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Speaker 6: You know, there was one thing I was a little

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Speaker 6: iffy about.

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Speaker 7: It was the whole run about everybody saying Arizona can

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Speaker 7: never make it to the big dance, they always flop

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Speaker 7: and fail.

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Speaker 6: Sure, I believe in this time. I just like Illinois better.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean listen, like you were on David Mirkovich

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Speaker 7: before anybody, Like when he was playing in the Adriatic

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Speaker 7: League last year, you were just you were. He's seeing

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Speaker 7: these hallways with a cell phone, pulling up his YouTube footage,

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Speaker 7: begging people to watch in depth. And you know, I

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Speaker 7: I dismissed it. I did not think he was gonna

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Speaker 7: be as good as he was. But I give you credit.

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Speaker 7: You've been on him since day one.

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Speaker 6: Aaron I was following him since he had a different

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Speaker 6: last name. Really yeah, okay? Was that I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't even want to know what happened to lead

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Speaker 7: to the different last name?

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Speaker 3: Wow, and the idea that Stoyakovich's kid. Can you can

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Speaker 3: I can you know? Something that grinds my gears? What's

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Speaker 3: that they have?

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Speaker 7: Your your Illinois fighting LINEI they have three really good

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Speaker 7: foreign born European players and they try to lump Andre

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Speaker 7: Stoyakovich in with them. Sure, I get what his last

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Speaker 7: name is. He's from NorCal, with due respect and this

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Speaker 7: is not a cultural thing, but it'd be like, uh,

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Speaker 7: I can't even think of an analogy. He he he

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Speaker 7: certainly has European roots. We know who his father is.

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Speaker 7: But you have three players that came over from Europe

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Speaker 7: literally six months ago, and you have a dude from

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Speaker 7: NorCal who spent uh you know, the first two years

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Speaker 7: of his career in the Bay Area, Stanford and Cal.

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Speaker 7: It's just it's just weird to me that we try

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Speaker 7: to equate one with the other when he's not like,

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Speaker 7: he's not, he's not that it's not that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't I don't know if I'm no,

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Speaker 3: you're making sense thank to the and one kind of

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Speaker 3: idea but gets lumped in because of his familial history

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Speaker 3: as opposed to his own personal journey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And I'm trying to think of like what an

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Speaker 7: analogy would even be, and I can't think of a

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Speaker 7: good one off the top of my head.

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Speaker 6: And I don't want to start going down.

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Speaker 3: Weird nor because you try to spitball it could bad.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to get anyone canceled at.

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Speaker 3: Aaron underscore torres if you want to do the canceling

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Speaker 3: or give him an idea of where to take that analogy.

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Speaker 7: My Twitter is how about a fresco? So if I

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Speaker 7: say anything inappropriate, that's where you're gonna want.

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Speaker 3: To soll there you go. You can send Jason a

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Speaker 3: note he's been staged during in New York, so going

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Speaker 3: to see Broadway shows and then working to help his

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Speaker 3: daughter secure autographs or photos or both. So we'll get

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Speaker 3: full reports on that Thursday when he returns, and then

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Speaker 3: maybe next Thursday I'll go try to do the same

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Speaker 3: thing for the couple of shows I'll go see as

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Speaker 3: I get my daughter off to see some of her

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Speaker 3: teammates and coaches at Vassar. But we get back to

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Speaker 3: the business of the NCAA tournament. One of the teams ousted,

865
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Speaker 3: of course by your Yukon Huskies, the Duke Blue Devils,

866
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Speaker 3: and a lot of questions now about John Schier and

867
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 3: his ability to coach in those big moments. We touched

868
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Speaker 3: down it a little bit last hour one, twenty four

869
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: and twenty five total. Coach K still doing some media

870
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 3: rounds today, his predecessor, and over the last couple of weeks,

871
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: you and I had both seen these reports and we've

872
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: talked about them tangentially. But folks wondering about Shire's evolution

873
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 3: and whether the apprentice is surpassing the master or catching

874
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: up quickly those forgetting the one hundred plus career NCAA

875
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 3: tournament wins, which is a giant gap between Coach K

876
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 3: and everybody else, but Coach K saying I lost sleep,

877
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: but also his presence that specter over a program, particularly

878
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: after such a crushing loss, having a nineteen point lead

879
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: fifteen at halftime that dissolves into a loss. So we'll

880
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: put a pin there for Shire. There was a video

881
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: that was posted by the Duke men's team going back

882
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: three weeks ago about here's how we coach them up

883
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: all the way through the final seconds, and this one

884
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: started making the rounds again. Action Network reposted it earlier

885
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: today and last night. So I had the guys in

886
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: the back say, all right, let's see if this is

887
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 3: clean enough and really paints the picture.

888
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

889
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: In the video there watching the final seconds of Chicago

890
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: Bulls Game one that the Bulls actually win against the

891
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: Phoenix Suns with a duke alum making a heady play

892
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: last night.

893
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I understand game situation.

894
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: Bulls go to four seconds to.

895
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: Go, Miss Louise on the bounds daily what can you do.

896
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: If you're Trade Jones?

897
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 5: Domin? What can you do if you're Trade Jones? No

898
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 5: time out?

899
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 6: Put them all down the court.

900
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 7: Or go all out the hoses Jones heads up play

901
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 7: by Trey Jones.

902
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: See was an incredibly hot.

903
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: Out que play.

904
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: That's right, is Duke Education telling us thank you? That's

905
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 3: that Duke Education? Maybe so as Jones is walking off

906
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: after the play, Duke Education right there and smiling from

907
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: ear to ear, and then obviously fast forward three weeks

908
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: so what happens at the end of the play. He's

909
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: kind of falling out of bounds, just throws the ball

910
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: up as high as he can lock runs out game over.

911
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: Bulls win one of the last wins of their season.

912
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: But but for Trey Jones two years at Duke, twelve

913
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: point per game last year and now averaging about thirteen

914
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: a game for the Bulls in his rookie season, makes

915
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: the heady play. And it's just so I don't think

916
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: it's ironic, just kind of funny that three weeks later,

917
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: when they're coaching up, Hey, what can you do with

918
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: the ball in such a situation? We have the boozer

919
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: play picks up his dribble drives to throw to the

920
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: middle of the court. They're either looking for that one

921
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: great trap or to follow the worst free throw shooter. Instead,

922
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: you get the tip, the turnover and caravan back in

923
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 3: the pass for the game winner.

924
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 5: But just.

925
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: So crazy that this was posted by the Duke men's

926
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: team just three weeks ago and the situation's very similar.

927
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I have certainly been one that has criticized

928
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 7: John Shire, what I will say, and like, I don't

929
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 7: think the coaching point is bad. From the perspective, there

930
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 7: were two players down court with no one you know,

931
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 7: basically back to defend, and obviously Yukon was trying to

932
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 7: trap force a turnover like just because it didn't work out.

933
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 7: If Kaiden Boozer throws that ball a little bit higher,

934
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 7: the game is over. So it's really funny that Action

935
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 7: Network found this, and it's obviously very ironic that Duke

936
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 7: put it out. I think you brought up a great

937
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 7: point earlier in the show, Mike an hour one is

938
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 7: that so many things you kind of had to do

939
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 7: so many things right, and Duke had to do so

940
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 7: many things wrong to get to the point where it

941
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 7: came down to that one play. And even as that

942
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 7: play was unfolding we talked about it last hour. Caraban

943
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 7: wants the ball is tip test to have the self

944
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 7: awareness to get it back to Braylen Molns because there's

945
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 7: enough time on the clock.

946
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 6: So it's funny, it's interesting.

947
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 7: Even as a Yukon guy, I will readily admit that,

948
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 7: by the way, quick Side Tangent, this is why you

949
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 7: don't foul right away when the ball is in bounds.

950
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 7: You always try to force a turnover. I think that's

951
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 7: a good coaching point on Yukon of I think everybody's

952
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 7: so quick to try to foul that that you know,

953
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 7: the way you're you should be taught is to try

954
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 7: to force the turnover first. That's exactly what happens. But

955
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 7: it is ironic if you're a duke cater. It is

956
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 7: outright funny that this was a social media clip that

957
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 7: they released. But even as a Yukon guy, I will

958
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 7: admit that if Caiden Boozer, if there had been enough

959
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 7: space to throw that ball up, the game is over

960
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 7: because there are two guys on the other side of

961
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 7: the Yukon defenders that are there to run out the clouds.

962
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a convergence of a lot of circumstance, but

963
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: still doesn't take away the evaporation of a nineteen point Ly,

964
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 3: we talked about chipping away at the stone. Friends of mine,

965
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 3: still married all these years later. In the vows, the

966
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: husband to be because they had dated a long time, said,

967
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 3: you know, like water erodes rock, here we stand today,

968
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: same thing. Yukon didn't go away and makes it play.

969
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: But for Shire we talk about the specter of Coach

970
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: k the legacy, the history, the winds, and just the

971
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: day before we were commemorating the anniversary of the Latner

972
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 3: play that starts all of the Duke hat and everything

973
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 3: that has flown on for all these years. But for Shire,

974
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: some calling for his head and I do the look

975
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: around of where are you going for a replacement? You

976
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: talk about his successes, obviously back to back monster failed

977
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: years with great talent in the tournament last year, obviously

978
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: the two headliners that are setting records and doing crazy

979
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: things in the NBA and Kinneppel and Cooper Flag. But

980
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: for Shire and company, you're starting to get to the

981
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: ledger of I don't care what you do in the

982
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: regular season. It's what am I doing come postseason? And

983
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: not that everybody's running to Duke Football to put their

984
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: dollars in that coffer from the alumni base. At some

985
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: point it's the all right, can we get over in

986
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: these moments?

987
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 5: Yep?

988
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 3: And when does the pattern? We talked about it with

989
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 3: Hubert Davis and we'll get back into that coaching higher

990
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: in a moment, but just that idea of once we

991
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 3: establish a pattern of big moments, big games and being

992
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: chased down and to your point, it's not necessarily a

993
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: bad coaching spot here, but it's everything but everything that

994
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 3: gets you to where it becomes a last second decision is.

995
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 7: Coaching, and I do think it is coaching that you

996
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 7: had a time out, and I think that was the criticism,

997
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 7: and justifiably so. So I would say two things are

998
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 7: true about Shire is you can criticize the end of

999
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 7: game execution, specifically late in NCAA tournament games. I'll be

1000
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 7: honest when this all happened, and when Yukon does win

1001
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 7: the game. I did think back to last year Houston

1002
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 7: in the final four. I forgot I was on these

1003
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 7: airwaves two NCAA tournaments to go in twenty twenty four

1004
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 7: when they blew a double digit lead against NC State

1005
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 7: in the Elite eight. That was what I had forgotten about.

1006
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 7: But as far as Shire is concerned, two things can

1007
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 7: be true is the tournament collapses are real. I think

1008
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 7: you could extrapolate it and say the late game collapses

1009
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 7: are real with if you factor in you know, last season, UNC,

1010
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 7: this year, whatever. But to your point, the if you

1011
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 7: think John Shire should not be the duke head coach,

1012
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 7: look a couple miles down the streets to UNC and

1013
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 7: see how they're coach and waiting successor in waiting keep

1014
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 7: it in the family. Higher went in what is happening now, John?

1015
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 7: You know, it's the equivalent of if Matt Lafleur had

1016
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 7: been fired by the Packers or whatever this year, John Harbaugh.

1017
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 7: If John Shire was let go at Duke, he would

1018
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 7: have a job in zero point zero zero zero two seconds.

1019
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 7: Very good program builder. Obviously the late game stuff has

1020
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 7: caught him the last few years.

1021
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: The pattern is there to see in certainly something a

1022
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 3: lot of consternation in the offseason because you're also going

1023
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: to lose several members to the draft, so you're going

1024
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: back to the well and veteran point guard play has

1025
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