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Speaker 1: Welcome in to Jagdam today. I'm Kindannie Stevens, branz Exton

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Speaker 1: and John Ozer are with me. We are fresh off

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Speaker 1: of bye week and we're ready to talk to Jaguars

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Speaker 1: football once again. We'll start off with big Thing number one,

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Speaker 1: which is back at It. We are back at It

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Speaker 1: week thirteen after that Week twelve by talking about football

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Speaker 1: once again. Brian, we were all kind of catching up

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Speaker 1: before the show just now about what we learned in

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Speaker 1: the bye week. I tried to stay a little bit

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Speaker 1: away from football, but you watched all the games yesterday.

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Speaker 1: What did you take away from it?

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Speaker 2: Well, and I'm going to get it. This is my

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Speaker 2: hot take.

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Speaker 3: What I got into it was that with the schedule

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Speaker 3: that's remaining for the Jaguars, there's an opportunity for them

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Speaker 3: to win some games here at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: And I know what you're thinking, it's too little, it's

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Speaker 2: too late. John. We're not talking.

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Speaker 3: About significant games at that moment of the schedule where

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Speaker 3: you're like, that's Thanksgiving. You'd love to be playing a

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Speaker 3: game with the if this then that scenario at the

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Speaker 3: very least, and we're not. But at this point of

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Speaker 3: the year, you still have an opportunity to win some games.

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Speaker 3: Nothing has gone this team's way this year, and when

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Speaker 3: you look at the division and the schedule that's there,

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Speaker 3: there's an opportunity for them to make some things happen

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Speaker 3: for themselves.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's unfortunately you're talking about a team

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Speaker 4: that hasn't performed playing against a bunch of other teams

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Speaker 4: that haven't performed. So anything's possible, and it would give

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Speaker 4: you a better feel for the end of the season.

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Speaker 4: I think they got a chance to win Sunday. That's

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Speaker 4: sort of part of my hot take as well. Soon't

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Speaker 4: get into it, but yeah, you can come out of

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Speaker 4: here with a better feeling than what you've had in

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Speaker 4: the first what eleven games, and that's something when the

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Speaker 4: season so far is, you know, frankly been nothing.

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Speaker 3: And Kay, it's worth pointing out really if the coaches

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Speaker 3: and players come back with a little bit of energy,

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Speaker 3: like kind of we feel here, the focus of where they're.

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Speaker 2: At has got to be on these last six games.

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Speaker 3: It's human nature for people to start thinking about what

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Speaker 3: their future holds. Will they bear change, will coaches need

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Speaker 3: to move on, you know? Will players be here? Doug's

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Speaker 3: biggest challenge for this football team is to keep them

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Speaker 3: all focused on these six games and not letting just

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Speaker 3: that natural progression of what am I going to do?

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Speaker 3: Where am I going to be take over these six

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Speaker 3: games will decide that.

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Speaker 1: Good boy, Brian. I think that brings us into our

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Speaker 1: second big thing, which is no news is good news.

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Speaker 1: Now over the bye week, we did not get any news.

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Speaker 1: Going into the bye week, a lot of people expecting

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Speaker 1: their changes with the coaching staff, changes with the front office,

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Speaker 1: changes elsewhere. But now at this point, John, I think

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Speaker 1: it's clear we're not going to see any changes at

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Speaker 1: this point with the team. I know we're not big

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Speaker 1: fans of coaching changes in the middle of the season,

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Speaker 1: but to have at least that going forward and you

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Speaker 1: know kind of where the team is at at this point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would think to a degree it would stop

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Speaker 4: the weekly questioning after games, although.

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Speaker 2: I don't know they will stop that question quite frankly.

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Speaker 4: So it should give the players at least a feel for, Okay,

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Speaker 4: these next six weeks, as Brian talked about, we'll have

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Speaker 4: a focus, will know what we're going to be doing,

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Speaker 4: We'll know who we're going to be listening to. You

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Speaker 4: would think it gave them that is no news good news.

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Speaker 4: I guess it depends on your perspective. For a lot

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Speaker 4: of fans, it's probably not for the team. I would

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Speaker 3: There's a certain portion of the fan base that will

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Speaker 3: not stop asking that question. But there's a more casual

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Speaker 3: side of it that will like winning, and if you

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Speaker 3: you going to make changes?

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Speaker 2: You'll just soften it a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit and people will focus on, Hey, they've got to

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Speaker 3: So you can diminish that a little bit by winning.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to make it go away entirely, because

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Speaker 3: the dissatisfaction of a season that's not ending with the

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Speaker 3: playoff berth is not going away.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is, and I think we'll be

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Speaker 1: going to be home stretch. Brian. We talked a little

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Speaker 1: What do you want to see in terms of long

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Speaker 3: Need to see from the team that focus, right, I

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Speaker 3: what they've got to do week to week and not

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Speaker 3: And you guys have both been in locker rooms for

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Speaker 3: a long time. You know what that look in their

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Speaker 3: We always joke that the last game of the year

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Speaker 3: the cars running in the parking lot. I want to

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Speaker 3: drilled down into what Doug and his coaching staff are doing.

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Speaker 2: I want to see him win games.

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Speaker 3: You've got time here, You've got a schedule, You've got

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Speaker 3: you've got four games against the division, the Raiders and

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Speaker 3: the Jets. I mean, that's not what you just came

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Speaker 3: through with the best teams in the NFC. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like Packers yesterday were great, Vikings came from behind to win.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles have won seven in a row and are

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Speaker 3: now nine and two, and the Lions are ten and

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Speaker 3: one for the first time since nineteen thirty four. Right,

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Speaker 3: you just came through a gauntlet. Three of those games

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Speaker 3: you had a chance to win one. Obviously you weren't

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Speaker 3: in it. All these games that are left on the

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Speaker 3: schedule should afford you the opportunity to build a little

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Speaker 3: bit of I don't know see momentum, because you're not

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Speaker 3: going on into January very deep, but it will give

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd like to see some young players play and develop.

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Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna start getting questions in this couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks. Just play all the young guys. Well, that's

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Speaker 4: harder to do than that question implies. But I think

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Speaker 4: there have to be some situations where you try to

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Speaker 4: get Parker Washington more involved, You try to get Bigsby,

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Speaker 4: It's a shame Cooper Hodges isn't playing right that level.

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Speaker 4: I think you've got to take advantage of these last

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Speaker 4: six weeks to do that because frankly, there's some veterans

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Speaker 4: I don't know where that balance is, but you'd like

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Speaker 4: to try to find some of it.

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Speaker 2: Well'll give you an interesting one. How about Tray Prince.

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Speaker 3: Right, He's a guy who we saw through training camp

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Speaker 3: in the preseason make some plays and here and there,

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see him on the field, however, because

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Speaker 3: you know that Ronald Darby is a one year fix,

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Speaker 3: so you'd like to see what you've got with this guy.

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Speaker 3: But if it comes down to winning, these coaches are

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Speaker 3: going to keep Ronald Darby in instead of trade Prince.

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Speaker 2: Balance is the right word, John. You got to figure

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Speaker 2: out what that is, all right.

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Speaker 1: So it's here on Jagsam. Weren't coming back. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go over what's been going on around the NFL while

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Speaker 1: we were on the bi week. Move the freight, Move

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Speaker 1: back into jags Am, we're back in studio here. We

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Speaker 1: getting ready for Week thirteen. Bye week last week much

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Speaker 1: needed for everybody. I think at this point fans as well.

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Speaker 1: Took some time away. But football still happened on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about what went on

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Speaker 1: in the division and what went on elsewhere in the

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Speaker 1: NFL last week. So Titans get the big upset over

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Speaker 1: the Texans yesterday. Hopefully that doesn't piss off the Texans

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Speaker 1: too much coming into town this week, but it can

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Speaker 1: be done. And what we've seen from the Texans and

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Speaker 1: I think that makes it more frustrating for all fans.

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Speaker 1: They don't have this division locked up by any means.

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Speaker 1: They're showing that this division was very winnable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the division was winnable, and you have some regret

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Speaker 3: Stroud has not played as consistently well as he did

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Speaker 3: Will Anderson. Their offensive line is good, it's not great.

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Speaker 3: You know, they have moments where Joe Mixon looks like

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Speaker 2: They just didn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I got a lot of questions a grief from

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Speaker 4: let's not anoint the Texans. Yet I was right but

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Speaker 4: I didn't really realize the Jaguars were going to be

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Speaker 1: I was right, But who cares?

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Speaker 2: Right? So yeah, they're very vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: They don't look like a team that's going to compete

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Speaker 1: Some drama elsewhere around the league, things going down in

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Speaker 1: So we can remind ourselves that things are not perfect

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Speaker 1: anywhere else either. John, When you look at kind of

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, when it goes bad, it goes bad. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not close enough that situation. Didn't know why things

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Speaker 2: So they're in that find it, find it, find it.

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Speaker 4: Until they find it, they'll probably be where they are.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, you have the same issue across the

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Speaker 3: appears to how Aaron Rodgers is incapable of playing at

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Speaker 3: the owner, Woody Johnson talking about benching him, and you

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Speaker 3: just in some situations you just have to be very

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Speaker 3: not happy. And for Elie Neighbors, look, we'd heard he

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Speaker 1: Frustration certainly boiling over in New York for both football

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Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad at all. Stay with us. We're

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. We are fresh off by week getting ready

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Speaker 1: what does your hot take predictions final six games?

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Speaker 2: It's got an asterisk next to it.

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Speaker 3: The asterisk is if Trevor Lawrence comes back to play, right, okay,

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Speaker 2: Stinks, to be quite honest with Yaid, the.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll back in the swing of things here

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