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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick

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Speaker 1: Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are, well here, some

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Speaker 1: of us are inside the SWBC podcast studio. It's eleven thirty,

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Speaker 1: a little after eleven thirty on a Thursday, and that

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Speaker 1: means it's time for Mick Shots featuring Mickey Spagnola and

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Speaker 1: who and Mickey Slason's missing. No, no, no, Mickey is

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Speaker 1: somewhere falling down a ski slope right now. He is right.

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Speaker 1: That's right. You got Bill Jones, you got Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and that is all you need. Who Who would schedule

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Speaker 1: a ski trip this week of all weeks leading up

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Speaker 1: to the start of the NFL's new league years, melted?

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Speaker 1: I hope you know sounds like going down a ski slow,

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Speaker 1: That's exactly that's right. And he was already complaining about

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Speaker 1: it last week before he left. Because spring break week

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Speaker 1: so the same time, all the spring breaks. So well,

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Speaker 1: the good news is we don't have to deal with

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Speaker 1: Mickey this week that those things much. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And so we are here for pretty much

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Speaker 1: the next hour to talk about all things that are happening,

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Speaker 1: and so much has already happened, and so much is

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Speaker 1: about to happen. Uh. And Everson came in here and

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Speaker 1: he has actually done his homework homework, combine homework and UH.

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Speaker 1: And if you could pick a position group that Everson

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Speaker 1: Walls might have studied or during the combine, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't guess this position. You would not guess this position.

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Speaker 1: I would have immediately said, you you're checking out those cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: They're even the safeties. Well I didn't say that. I

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Speaker 1: did not, Okay, okay, but still you know I had

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Speaker 1: to hear him to do other things. You're excited about.

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Speaker 1: Offensive lineman, I am man, Come on, Dad need some

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Speaker 1: protection and I want to keep Zeke around. See what

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Speaker 1: we can do. I love it when he's got a

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Speaker 1: full head of steam. Nobody's in front of him. That

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Speaker 1: line has to open up, that whole boone. He's hurting somebody.

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Speaker 1: That still happens. They can talk on the trash they want.

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Speaker 1: That still happens with Zeke Elliott. All right, so that's

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Speaker 1: something we're going to dive into a little bit later here.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into um, how about we get into things

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Speaker 1: that are pertinent as far as this team is right

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Speaker 1: now and what's been going on in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of days around the league. Which would you'd like to

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Speaker 1: hit first? Would you like to go with the musical

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Speaker 1: chairs of the quarterbacks around the league or would you

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Speaker 1: like to go with what the Cowboys are contemplating doing

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Speaker 1: getting ready for the start of free agency next week?

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Speaker 1: I want to speak on the musical chairs, All right,

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Speaker 1: let's do that. Where is Russell Wilson gonna get some

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Speaker 1: offensive line? Help you tell me that right now? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know he's he's a NFL darling. I know he's

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Speaker 1: amazing because he wasn't getting it in Seattle he was,

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Speaker 1: and he's not gonna get it in Denver because first

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Speaker 1: you know, is it looming for divid Who else do

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Speaker 1: they have who they gonna give up for a good

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Speaker 1: He still can't see over them. Problem he's got to

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Speaker 1: move anyway. So that's what it is. That's that's what

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Speaker 1: they decided in Seattle. He didn't need offensive linement because

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Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble. Next day, you know, Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: You know, I can't give up on him, even though

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Speaker 1: making the moves towards the end of the season, they

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Speaker 1: were launching slowly upwards towards the playoffs. But what they

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Speaker 1: remember is what they at last Well, that's what the

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Speaker 1: hell counts. I mean, it's not like they're picking on it.

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Speaker 1: What did you do last man? Other failure? I mean, geez,

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Speaker 1: when you got an opportunity to just beat the worst

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Speaker 1: that's one bit, that bit, that's one. It was another one, well,

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Speaker 1: I think it was like two games. It was too gay.

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Speaker 1: But but but the last thing that was the Jackson

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Right, yeah, So did you see

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Speaker 1: what Trayvon tweeted yesterday afternoon? I did not. It was

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Speaker 1: man wins to Washington? You know, you know, Aidan keeps

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Speaker 1: And so I was looked up how Trayvon has done

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Speaker 1: he had two picks two two picks against two of

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Speaker 1: It's just a coincidence. Yeah sure. Now that was a

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Speaker 1: game though that Carson Wentzon. The Eagles won because the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys started being to Nucci at quarterback then game so

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just be real. They need and just

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Speaker 1: because that's where Daniel Jones. He's okay, but he's not

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Speaker 1: In fact, I wish we'd get challenged a little more

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Speaker 1: they weren't necessarily winning teams themselves. High point moment, Tell

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Speaker 1: Give me, give me the best moment. When did When

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Speaker 1: he admitted that once. Already that's that's just where it is.

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Speaker 1: be exciting to be effective. You know, we no excitement

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Speaker 1: So and so, now what does Seattle do at quarterback?

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Speaker 1: They didn't gino he's free agent? Is he he's free

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Speaker 1: agent because they acquired Drew Locke in that trade? Okay? Okay,

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Speaker 1: and what does that say? Well, he's he's on the team.

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Speaker 1: really really interesting, any connection through coaches? Dan Quinn al

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Speaker 1: right there you go. Oh we know what? Then come on,

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Speaker 1: we gotta how much money you got called? Not how

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Speaker 1: much of somebody else? How'm with you me? You want

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00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is for inflection purposes. It have your

424
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: roof checked by choice. And that's why Mickey sounds like okay,

425
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: I thought he was. I just thought that was just yeah,

426
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: well I lost my voice hanging with these kids at

427
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: these football Yeah, what's going on with your football camps? Man?

428
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: We went, uh, it's fbu uh. You have a great

429
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: time with him every year. I don't have any coaching

430
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: the likes UM certificates, but most of those guys down

431
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: that do. I just try to show them the stuff

432
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: that I know, the defensive back mostly high school kids,

433
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: and man, you get pretty close with them after a while.

434
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: You know. First I'm yelling at them all morning, and

435
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: by the afternoon they kind of get it. Yeah, And

436
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: so then that's when we kind of hanging out a

437
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: little bit and the kids get to know you. They

438
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: said that, hey, they asked me to sentence connect through

439
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: with them through some type of social media. I was

440
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,239
Speaker 1: and I'm saying, I'm on Facebook, Like a look at

441
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: this old guy. I'm like, hey, man, what do you want?

442
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: You know, what do you want? Facebook? Kids used to

443
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: be on Facebook. Yeah, oh yeah, that was ten years ago.

444
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: I remember my youngest daughter when she was a senior

445
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: in high school that that was. This was when moms

446
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: and dad weren't on Facebook. Okay, this is yeah, it

447
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: was about ten years ago, ten or twelve years ago.

448
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: And so go to lunch with my wife and youngest daughter, Jordan,

449
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 1: and I announced it lunch that I have got on Facebook.

450
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: You should have her face turned ashes, dad, what you

451
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: can't be on Facebook? She would not friend me. Well

452
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: that's the thing because they don't want you to follow

453
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So get this to get that. Six months later,

454
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: she goes off to college. Her first day at college,

455
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: would she do? I got a friend request from her

456
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: own face, but she was he was homesid. She wanted

457
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: to be my friend. Yeah, that's good stuff. That's good stuff, Bill, Yeah,

458
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: funny stuff. All right, Amari Cooper and the Cowboys want

459
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: to be friends with Amari still now they don't. Doesn't

460
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: sound like so sad? So sad. And we talked about this,

461
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: that taking the chance right on gallop we didn't think,

462
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, right, that's a tough decision. But all End

463
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: coming off a cl surgery just last month. Young legs,

464
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: young legs, right, how does he twenties six? Ye, that's

465
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: young legs still still ready still and he was always

466
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: extremely athletic. Yeah, I mean just I'm just stated how

467
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: athletic some of the moves has got made. I've never

468
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: seen people do that before in my life. Yeah, So

469
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: I have a feeling he'll be okay, but that still okay.

470
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: So with Cooper and bring everyone up to speed. They

471
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: haven't done anything yet with Cooper, and really it's the

472
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: fifth day of the league years when his contract would

473
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: become guaranteed, and so they have to do something by

474
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: that by that time if they're going to do something.

475
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: There are reports out there that they are entertaining some

476
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: trade offers whatever. But if you cut him or trade

477
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: him his deal iss, he counts twenty two million against

478
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: the cap right now, and if you cut him or

479
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: trade him before June first, it would be a six

480
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit and you save sixteen million a

481
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: post June first cut. If you designate him as a

482
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: post June first, he only counts two million against the

483
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: captain twenty You save twenty million. Yeah. So but it's

484
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: even more so than on the law one. So yeah,

485
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: that's true. Um So anyway, Uh, we'll see what happens there.

486
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: But so what about no possibility of of I mean,

487
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just dreaming, right, I'm that I'm that that

488
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: fan that's always hoping for the hopeless. No fan, no,

489
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: no chance we keep them both right, No, thanks for

490
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: putting there. They've been taking that meal. Thanks? Yeah, all right, So,

491
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: and of course you got to get a deal done

492
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: with Michael Gallup, who is a free agent to be

493
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: and there supposedly they were making strides in that direction, uh,

494
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: to combine last week and so, and we're talking neighborhood

495
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: of upwards of ten million dollars a year on Gallops deal.

496
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna pay these guys on the money,

497
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: what do the Cowboys need at wide receiver? Basically consistency,

498
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: but I mean personnel? What are they? Okay, let's say

499
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: Cooper's gone. Now what do you need at wide receiver

500
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: in order to have this offense function the way Cedric

501
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: Wilson is a free agent? Okay, he's gonna get some

502
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: decent money out there. All right, Let's say you got

503
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: Lamb and you do the deal with Gallup. Now, Gallup

504
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: is likely coming off an ACL. I'll just speculate that

505
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: he might start the year on pub as we've talked

506
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: to miss the first six weeks of the season. So

507
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: now you've got you you did, uh, you did resign

508
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, and you've got they did they did, said man.

509
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: And out of last year's draft, you got Ceme p

510
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Hoko as another wide receiver. Bet Brown come back. I

511
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: bet I'll bet Brown comes back even smaller than he

512
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: was last year. Okay, I think he would get even

513
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: hopefully better shape in the sas not saying he was

514
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: out of shape. I mean I think he's going to

515
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: continue with this the transformation that he's he's trying to make.

516
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: I think he realizes he can he can really move better,

517
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: uh and do better for us. I think part of

518
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: it was deciding, Okay, is he a wide receiver or

519
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: is he more of a tight end tight Yeah, you

520
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: know h type almost and and you could see, you know,

521
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: the way it was used in Jason Garrett's offense was

522
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, in that in that manner, right, in that manner, right. Yeah,

523
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: but now when now he's pretty consistent, He was pretty

524
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: consistent at the wide receive a spot. You could see

525
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: uh some some some promise. I didn't see him really

526
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: just stinking up to joint, like, uh, I hate to

527
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: be getting down on my buddy, Cedric man. I was

528
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: so And it's like they said, you have to have

529
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: players that you can count on in the most extreme situations.

530
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: We know that. I think Gallop is one of those guys.

531
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: We know that CD. I think I think there are

532
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: two of those guys Cooper of course, also the rest

533
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: I really don't have much. I'm talking about in a

534
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: consistent manner when you need them in a consistent and

535
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: as much as we throw the balls, as much as

536
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: we spread it around, there shouldn't be too much of

537
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: a gap between the skill level of our receivers. Now,

538
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: playmaking in the clutch is another thing, Bill, but I

539
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: mean just a physical ability making plays. You know, I

540
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: can count on him, him, on him. They shouldn't be

541
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: that far apart. Because we spread it around so much,

542
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: you expect them all to do well, and when they don't,

543
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: we lose our timing, which is what started happening to playoffs,

544
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: along with all the other variety of things lamb and

545
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: all that. But you're still if you're that guy, like

546
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: like spac said, that's why he's a backup you have.

547
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: You don't have that choice. You don't have that choice

548
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: when you are spreading the ball around so much. You

549
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: don't have a choice to play like a back home.

550
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: You don't have a choice. So it's how concerned are

551
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: you losing? Amari Cooper? I'm very concerned because it's tough

552
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: with him being here here. Here's what I like about

553
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: from a when you're managing a salary cap, a whole

554
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: team salary cap, A Cooper is making so much money, okay,

555
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: and then CD is going to be in that range

556
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: here in a couple of years, and he was first

557
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: rounding rookie money right now, Now, Gallop, you're signing him

558
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: to what is a nice number two receiver salary. He's

559
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: in the position with CD is going to be right

560
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: if your number one receiver is in the eighteen to

561
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars range. And once you know he's got

562
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: gets a second contract, well, Gallop, you're you pencil him in.

563
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: He's in the second receiver slot, high price, second receiver

564
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: slot whatever. Right. Basically, it's almost like, in my opinion,

565
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: it's almost like the wide receiver position has become like

566
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: the running back in that you have to if you

567
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: got a Cooper Cup who produces at the level that

568
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup does, Okay, then okay, twenty million dollars fine, okay,

569
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: because he's moving the chains on third down, he's productive,

570
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns, he d fifty catches a year or whatever.

571
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, and so you have to keep You

572
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: have to keep them coming in out of the draft.

573
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: Every couple of years, you got to draft one of them.

574
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: And so the Cowboys are in a position now they

575
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: let Cooper go CD moves into the number one slot,

576
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: gallops in the second slot. You draft one, I mean,

577
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: and now you can draft one in the first, second,

578
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: third round. You can draft what But there's another the

579
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: wide receiver. There are wide receivers out there, and it's

580
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: been proven now here in the last few years that

581
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: wide receivers can come into the league and actually can

582
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: tru at right off the bat their rookie year too.

583
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: Ye see these shows them, yeah, right, And so I

584
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: mean it's Chase Chase with the other Beagle things, sure,

585
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: Jefferson with Minnesota. I mean, the list goes on and on, guys,

586
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: and so, uh, you just gotta keep it, keep rotating it,

587
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: you know. And I think with with Cooper, I don't know,

588
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at where how he came in and

589
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: just changed everything for us, you know. And I know

590
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: reminiscing is not You're not allowed to reminisce in the NFL.

591
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: That's just it's not feasible. And so everything that he

592
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: was doing for us back then changed everything, But I

593
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: thought the consistency remained the only thing I see about

594
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: our cowboy receivers. And it's just like we always attacked

595
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: people when I was with the Giants. When someone gets

596
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: up in your face, then you better win. You gotta win.

597
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: And uh, I never really isolated on what the because

598
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: first of all, zach Dak was always pretty much surrounded

599
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: by lineman by the time they've finished their routes. Our

600
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: offensive system, you must have time to run your route

601
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: in order for it to be successful, So it's imperative

602
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: that the protection is there, otherwise your timing is off.

603
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: And I don't mean you know you can remit it easily.

604
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: You can't because it's the routes themselves are They're timely,

605
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: you understand, and there's sometimes they can be extensive, and

606
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: you don't have time for that all the time. You

607
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: don't have time for that five move, fifteen year all

608
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: come back, you know what I mean. It looks good

609
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: on seven on seven, we look good at seven or seven,

610
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: but you can't do that if you don't have protection.

611
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: All right, So I don't know where the quote unquote

612
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: blame goes on this, but when you look at Cooper's

613
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: season last year and remind you this as a guy

614
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: that you're committing top top, top receiver dollar two. First

615
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: game of the year against Tampa Bay, he had thirteen

616
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and thirty eight yards and two touchdowns.

617
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: His second best game of the year came at Minnesota.

618
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush was a quarterback. He had eight catches, one

619
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one yards came to his hands out

620
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: for tip pass. Okay, yeah, so there you're talking twenty

621
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: one catches for what would that be two hundred and

622
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: sixty yards but roughly and three touchdowns, all right. The

623
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: other thirteen games that he played in he had forty

624
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: six catches. He averaged three and a half catches in

625
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: forty six yards a game the other thirteen games. So

626
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that production fell off in the other

627
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: thirteen games for whatever reason. First of all, you gotta

628
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: look at tet so was it, Yeah, was it? The

629
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: play calling was at the quarterback, that's right, And you know,

630
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: you gotta figure out the defense changes and they start

631
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: pressing more. You know, because as much as he looks

632
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: slight out there, Mary Cooper is not a slight guy.

633
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: He's around six feet tall. Now that's not huge, but

634
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: that's not a little five ten guy that you're kind

635
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: of beating up out there. And he's got all the

636
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: moves that he can have, but once again, those moves

637
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: take time. Well, the other thing that the Cowboys have

638
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: done with the wide receiver room is they've changed the

639
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach. Adam Henry's not here now and Robert

640
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: Prince is the new wide receiver's coach. And you know,

641
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: there's a story that was that I've heard. I know

642
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: nothing about this, but the story talked about on some

643
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: talk shows is that there wasn't enough juice coming out

644
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: of that wide receiver room as far as it was chill,

645
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: laid back. Oh well, because they're all so good. Yeah,

646
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, it's not our fault. So is the

647
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: makeup of the wide receiver room? Uh did it need

648
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: to change? I don't know. Well, I mean, if it

649
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: does get more aggressive, that can always be a good thing.

650
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: More aggression is always good, And I'm pretty sure that's

651
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: kind of the approach they're gonna take. Um. Yeah, probably

652
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: have CD and they're lifting more weights. You know, they

653
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: might change the whole attitude of everything he's gonna be running.

654
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: He might start running the ball more. They might put

655
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: him in the backfield a little bit more. So be

656
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: ready for that. If you want to fuss about it,

657
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: you know, you want to be that guy, then we're

658
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: going to follard out there at wide receiver a little bit.

659
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: Tony's not bitching. That's they's not acting cocky. Tony is

660
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: just tony, you know what I mean. So that's the difference.

661
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean. But these guys, if they're gonna be that group,

662
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: then yeah, I'm gonna throw you out there and give

663
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 1: you all you can handle. And that's what Michael Irvin

664
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of was talking about and a few of the

665
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: other guys. We we can't make everybody happy. In regards

666
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: to spreading around, I think we are the teams that

667
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: you see that do well. They spread it around some,

668
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: but for the most part, you're gonna get your guys

669
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: the ball. You can't treat you can't treat Cedric Wilson

670
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: like you treat CD. You just can't. You CD need

671
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: to get his We need to overthrow them to him

672
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: and he better be. He better get his butt open

673
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: because we're coming at You don't come out of trying

674
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: to be que time. You're trying. Now we're coming at you,

675
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: so you need to be ready. You need to be

676
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Michael Irving ready. Right. I'm talking about work your butt

677
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: off so much in offseason, just be so thirsty for everything.

678
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: I hope that's what the change is when they change

679
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: the coach, because I mean, yeah, he looks good when

680
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: everything goes well. But man, when I'm looking for you,

681
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: I can't have you missing it. I mean, I'm back

682
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: here getting my butt kicked. If I'm the quarterback, you

683
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: know I'm open over here because they're trying to throw

684
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: to you. If I'm a Marii Cooper, you better cass

685
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: that dog on ball and versa. So that that to me.

686
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: I hope that's the kind of attitude that they they

687
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: they transformed to. And then of course, um the other

688
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: news this week is Dalton Schultz back franchise, got the

689
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: tag and they're working on a long term deal with him. Cool.

690
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: You like that? I do? Yeah, I really do. I

691
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: talked to some former players when we watched the game,

692
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: and they don't They didn't like him. It was a

693
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: couple I'm not gonna say it was. I was kind

694
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: of disappointed. Like, dude, what you wanted to do? I mean,

695
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: and of course doing that game, he started getting off

696
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: and having some play this is this is what he does.

697
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: This is I'm trying to tell him a guy. So yeah,

698
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: it's the mix, uh, the emotions out there about it.

699
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: I happen to think that when he was bigger, he

700
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: could block his butt off. I don't know when he

701
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: came to have when he came out of Stanford. He

702
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: was his fourth round pick. But the one thing that

703
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: they the book on him was Okay, he can do

704
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: he'll do the little things, he'll do the grunt work.

705
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: You know him in for that because Jarwin was weak

706
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: as well in the blocking situation. And now he says

707
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: he and Jowin must be read the same playbook or something,

708
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: because now that both not not very good at all

709
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: in the blocking situations. So yeah, we're so once again.

710
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you can change the change the room with

711
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: strange coaches. Maybe in the tight end room needs to

712
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: be changes too. And strangely and strangely, the Schultz benefits

713
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: perhaps from the Jarwin injury. Of course, with the hip surgery.

714
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: You know, Joan was headed dead. Yeah you got yeah,

715
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: he was headed to free agency and then man, Okay, now,

716
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: Jarwin's got the rare hip surgery and that was my

717
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: guy ability. I knew he could block with the crop,

718
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: but that was my guy man. And even though there's

719
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: tight ends out there, you know he's Schultz has established

720
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: himself the last couple of years, or particularly this year

721
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: with Dak healthy. And then there's a familiarity with your cornerback.

722
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Both of them, they've been there with him. He knows

723
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: both of them pretty well. The bottom line two is, yeah,

724
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money at ten point nine million

725
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: dollars as a tag, but if you you can get

726
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: relief on that by signing him long term, I mean,

727
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: it'll still be at that average, but you get immediate

728
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: million good tight ends out Yeah, bost and second team,

729
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: everyone has two, and you think both of them are

730
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: really good. Right, So you're right, there's a lot of

731
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: tight ends out there. Yeah, and the Cowboys aren't out

732
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,080
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733
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,719
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774
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775
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776
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: the timeline going forward next Monday, Next Wednesday is the

777
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: start of the league year. Okay, so that's when contracts

778
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: can become official. The negotiating period starts Monday, and um,

779
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be very interesting to see what route

780
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go. Obviously they do not usually take part

781
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: in a big money free agent signing like a Bobby

782
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Wagner would probably be Okay, do you think big money?

783
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, he was due sixteen million this year? Was

784
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: his his what his number was? His game been, it's been,

785
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: it's been really good. It's been good. It's still been

786
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: really good. Right, Well, we won't get him, No, we

787
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: won't have that's that's that's okay, that's okay, we'll good,

788
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: we'll good. All right. So then guys that they Cowboys

789
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: should prioritize who are free agents to be Okay, you've

790
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: got nineteen of them out there's now all right, let's

791
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: start on the defensive side of the football. Okay, and

792
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: right at the top would be your leading tackler from

793
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: last year, Jay run Curse. Right, what do you think

794
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: the market's going to be for Jay run Curse, Jay

795
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: Ron Curse. I think he can ask for a really

796
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: really good I wouldn't say elite money, but right under

797
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: that second tier. So what you think about about eight

798
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 1: to nine a year? So that's out of the Cowboys market,

799
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: I would think so, No, you think so if you're

800
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: if you're paying Gallop and then you're paying yeah, depends

801
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: you do not get him for cheap. No, you cannot

802
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: get him for cheap, not after that year. Yeah, all right,

803
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, Randy Gregory. Wow, more than that,

804
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: we're talking what all right? Twelve, well, fifteen? You got Gregory? Uh,

805
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean we got Dak money, we got we got

806
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: Zack Martin money. We'll be okay, Randy Gregory, j Ron Curse. Oh,

807
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: let's do it by position. Defensive defensive line, you got

808
00:48:54,680 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, Dorance Armstrong, Brent Urban, Carlos Watkins, and then

809
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: you might have to Marcus Lawrence, depending on all right.

810
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: Linebackers Layton vander Esh Keanu'neil. That's that's you know. I

811
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: was not impressed with either last year. Okay, DB's at cornerback,

812
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: Maurice Kennedy safeties j Ron Curse, Demonte Casey, and Malie Cooker.

813
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: That shows all those one year contracts they did last year.

814
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: Now now you have to know what do you do? Yeah,

815
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: and and I thought someone that actually faded, uh as

816
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: the season went on quickly was was wasn't in the safety.

817
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm eighteen. I was very disappointed him. I really was. Uh,

818
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: of course I want to the other two. And then Hooker,

819
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, he was coming off an injury. I thought

820
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: hook could played well. I thought he was right well

821
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: for what they asked Hooker to do. And I thought

822
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: he came on stronger. Yes, I think so as well.

823
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: He was all over the field. He was all over

824
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: the field. And he you know, he wasn't just like

825
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: small out there like like uh Jordan. He seemed to

826
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: be bringing more pop with himself. I think he actually

827
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: started playing a little bit more than Jordan's. All right,

828
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: just just let's just say it's affordable on those on

829
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: all those guys. I mentioned that you can afford to

830
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: sign one, which is your which is your cap. You

831
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: can't afford to sign which is your top priority. Randy Gregor, Okay,

832
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: you got Gregory, Mandy Gregory. Okay, how now, how rich

833
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Are you willing to make Randy Gregory not as rich

834
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: as d Law Okay, not as bitch as he's richer

835
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: than Dalton Schultz, which is ten point nine million a year. Yes,

836
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: I do believe that, right, Okay, he's paid his dues. Okay,

837
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: he did what he's supposed to do. Okay, and for

838
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: a whole season. I think he can hold him for

839
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: all season. About three seasons? No, three years? Okay? No,

840
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: all right, So you're doing slight. He's so slight. Yeah,

841
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: you're so slight. You're doing a deal where you can

842
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: get out of it after the second year. He's so slight. Okay,

843
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: all right, offense, Michael Gallup. We've determined that we Gallop

844
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: is good, yes, okay, and you're fine a little over

845
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: ten million dollars a year. Man, I just hate to

846
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: get with a Cooper man. I was just gonna throw myself.

847
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: I was taking him over Cooper that's not already kept,

848
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: Noah Brown. Otherwide receivers are Cedric Wilson and Malik Turner.

849
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: The only reason that we keep said to Wilson, I

850
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: would hope that he learned something from last year. Once again,

851
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: my optimism and the other thing is because Gallip will

852
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: be out. We're going to need him. I mean, we

853
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: have no choice, right, We're going to need Sedi Wilson

854
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: at least for six weeks. It's just the way it is.

855
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have it. You don't have five

856
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: catches last year. It's the ones he didn't make, Bill

857
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to. So he was he was playing

858
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: on a restricted free agent money last year, two and

859
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: a half million dollars last year. He's gonna double that

860
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: at least this year. And you know, to be honest,

861
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm just talking as a fan, but you know, he

862
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: had a good he had a good year, you know.

863
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: But but can you afford three years eighteen million dollars

864
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: for Cedric? You're gonna have to. You're gonna have to.

865
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: I mean, is there any way you can shorten something

866
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: up like that, because you're only dealing with the six

867
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: weeks that you really have to make, really, not just

868
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: the six weeks. You're still gonna he's another receiver. You're

869
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 1: undraft one too. Yeah, yeah, so he's still that's still

870
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: enough for him. There's still still no room for him.

871
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how to see what the market is

872
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a lot of wide receivers out

873
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: on the market, So all right, uh offensive line Connor Williams,

874
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: tie Insecky and okay, uh oh yeah Putter and your

875
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: long snapper Brian Anger and Jake McQuaid. Oh no, I

876
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: gotta have Anger. I gotta have Anger as my dude. Okay,

877
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: he's he's he's my Uh, he's my He's my defensive guy,

878
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: he's my my twelfth defender. You know, the way he

879
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: keeps us in the game, just by the way he

880
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: kicks the ball and that that's pretty that's impressive. I

881
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: hadn't seen that since uh Sean Lindetta. Sounds like he's

882
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: gonna be out there on the market though. Well see, yeah,

883
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: sounds like it. Nobody cares the kickers to just treat

884
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: it like clap. You just said you care. I do,

885
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: I do, but I don't count. I can tell you

886
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: all right, So we just settled it. We did. Uh huh.

887
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: They're listening to. You're keeping listening to. You're keeping Randy

888
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: Gregory and jay Ron curse. If you can't, okay, and

889
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: you have to keep, said Jack Wilson, you have to,

890
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: you just have to. You have no to us who's

891
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: playing linebacker for this team? We only need one one linebacker? Michael, Yeah,

892
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: Michael and anybody else, Ye, Mike and anybody else. But

893
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: you don't you don't think we look at the linebacker.

894
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: You don't think we have any the young guys who

895
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: could back up and do something. Jabril Cox coming off

896
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: an injury. Uh, Gifford is uh what kind of promise

897
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: do you think? He asked? Well? And Gifford is a

898
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: restricted free agent, okay, And so it sounds it's like

899
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: what they want to do with Gifford is work out

900
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: a deal and not give him the restricted free agent money.

901
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: Of a name, and I like him as as a reserve.

902
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: He came a strong Yeah, yeah, I like him as

903
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: special teamer. And may you gotta like the name. You

904
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: gotta like the name. You kind of pull a phone

905
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: just for the name. So yeah, okay, Um, anyway, it's

906
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting to see drafting an offensive life

907
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: first offensive line number one? So are you so you

908
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: believe in drafting for position? I do? How many times

909
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: have you? That's how you build your culture, right? I

910
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: mean that's how the Redskins got that be the Hogs, right? Okay,

911
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean who else can we think of? Jeez, great Titans,

912
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, you know what I mean? That that

913
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: may the made for that. You know, that's the culture

914
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 1: that there's the Ravens in the in the trenches. Well

915
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: cowboys developed that. There you go with first the Tyre

916
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: Smith pick in the Travis Frederick, and then the Zach

917
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: Martin and then Lyle Collins. It wasn't a first rounder

918
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: because of issues, but it's great. Yeah, but you might.

919
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: But now let's be well, uh, but you can't. You

920
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: can't put a live collars with with that. You can't

921
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: put a signing of live collars the way you can

922
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: be with the signing of the difference though the difference though. Now,

923
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: Frederick was a thirty second pick, okay, Um, they drafted,

924
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: they traded down and took him late in the first round,

925
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: and Martin was mid first round and Tyrann was a

926
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: top ten pick, number round number ten. Okay, at number

927
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: twenty four, you're not getting the same quality typically. Have

928
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: you looked at my guys? Oh I tried. We don't

929
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: have to look at him now, dude, they have a

930
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: bunch of guys. Somebody, First of all, you got this

931
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: kid six feet seven inches tall. Oh my god, uh

932
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds. He's from my Arizona State killings d

933
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: I e from, No, I don't. I was outside the

934
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: Big Green NFL Draft. He's from Trophy Club Texas. I was,

935
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about Texas connections. Ass and

936
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: you know what, my second one because the first one

937
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: is not him, the first one because they ran first,

938
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: they said he'll probably be the first pick. I kim

939
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: uh equo long gun, long gun. He's long gun. He's gone. Yeah. Yeah,

940
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: they said he'll be the first one. Six four three

941
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: ten nouth Carolina State. I mean these guys, he ran

942
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: under five flat. Both of these guys were under five

943
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: flat in the forty. They probably beat me running man.

944
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: Just ridiculous. And they had the other guy. Of course

945
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: we're talking d Lineman. He just can't pass him up. No,

946
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: I have to talk about this guy five to nine.

947
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: But Texas and them had Kenyan Green. They talked well

948
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 1: about him. Bro, well you think about him yet, because okay,

949
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: so I thought, you know, Texas kid, I was one

950
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: of if he was a Texas kid. And they keep

951
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: giving this guy so much praise from Texas. See that

952
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: look at that. Keep giving this guy praise. He's six

953
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: to two, three hundred three prowns from Nebraska. His name

954
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 1: is Cam Jurgens. This is the guy that makes bids.

955
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't beef jerky stupid. Uh he is, I believe

956
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: he is. And he ran a four to ninety one.

957
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: Very athletic kid. They had a lot of athletic guys

958
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: out there. Man Lsu d Ingraham. He was good running

959
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: to forty. I mean it's them ran the five, just

960
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: missed the running up five. I think he actually ran

961
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: it now he ran a five point h six. He

962
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: only got like three one hundreds of a second better.

963
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: And and then all up their accomplishments and outlo Trophy

964
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: finalist was for the Long Gone like you said, mister

965
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: uh Man, that's his middle name, long Gone. Yeah, because

966
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: they said he would be the first one look up

967
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson. He's another I got it right here, I

968
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: got I'm getting to him somewhere around here. Yeah. He

969
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: was good to Johnson or the two guards that are

970
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: going to be Hey, the one I liked was this kid. Uh,

971
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: Trevor Penning ran the four ninety one. Let me see

972
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: his dimensions. Uh this guy, Yeah, that's the six seven guy. No, no,

973
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: this is another six seven guy from the University of

974
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois, six feet seven inches tall, three twenty five.

975
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: He can slam a basketball win Meal style like Vince Carter.

976
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: I got the video right here. Well he picked up. Well,

977
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: he can slam defensive ins because he was doing that

978
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bolts, right, He's amazing. That's another laws again.

979
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: Penning Penning is a Penning Oh Penning. Yeah, yeah, So

980
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: that's University Northern mill North. He's he's just a stud,

981
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: all right. Did you see the cornerback from UTSA, the

982
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: one that Tarik Woolen? I didn't see six four, two

983
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: hundred and five pound Tarik Woolen from UTSA and Fort

984
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: Worth Arlington Heights High School. He ran a four two

985
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: six that's the six four. Oh look there he is

986
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: right there, six four two three one unofficial, but the

987
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: the correct timing of it was a for the official

988
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: was a four two six. I see a four two

989
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: nine is Oh no, that's the bailor guy. Yeah, Baylor.

990
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: So Baileys, did you did you know did you notice

991
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: that the unofficial forty times were off from UM from

992
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: what the officials were by a good what's going on

993
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: with it? I got the inside talking about the I

994
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: got the inside story on that, Chris Beam. Did you hear?

995
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: Do you understand? I did not? But it was a

996
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: computer a little slow. No, you know, they hand time,

997
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: They hand timing. No, no, no, no no. When when

998
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: it airs live on NFL network, they're relying on someone

999
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: who is timing them with a hand timer, and he

1000
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: communicates to the truck that four three h four three

1001
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: one okay, because they don't have the the official time

1002
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: yet and they want to be able to immediately put

1003
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: it on the screen. So you have to have someone

1004
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: and experience scout who knows how to time these guys

1005
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: to make it to the scout. No, and in the

1006
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: years past they've been really close on him. Okay. You

1007
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: know who doesn't work for the NFL network anymore is

1008
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: that Charlie Casserly. Charlie Casserly was the guy who was

1009
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: timing them for the NFL Network broadcast all these years,

1010
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: and he wasn't there this year, and so whoever was

1011
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: timing him didn't have that same Charlie Casserly is the guy.

1012
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: And don't you know that Charlie Casserly is sitting there

1013
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: at home watching there. You know, he is uses a lot.

1014
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: They don't get anything a lot. I'm timing them here

1015
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: at home, and I'm getting the right. They should have

1016
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: just hired him from a home. Charl Yeah, I tried

1017
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: to Casserly cast the Charlie cast. Oh dude, didn't they

1018
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: think of that? Oh man, hey doesn't have to now

1019
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: you go. But he could be Facebook life Chris, I'm sorry.

1020
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: So that was the story why they were off on

1021
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: so many others. So who was the guy they don't know?

1022
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: I okay, here's one. Here's what this guy real good?

1023
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: Before we go Texas Tech. You've seen this kid? Well

1024
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm sure you do. Uh, DeMarcus Fields, Okay,

1025
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty two tackles. This is a career,

1026
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half tackles for lost, two sacks, forty

1027
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: five pass broke breakups, four interceptions, and four force fumbles.

1028
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. His kids are stud man. You sound like

1029
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: Gil Brandt. You're getting into the sky. See you told

1030
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna watch this because I hate the draft.

1031
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: I didn't get draft. Give us a craft. But you

1032
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: know these you just kind of especially after seeing them

1033
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: get drafted doing the pandemic, man, and I'm glad that

1034
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: people could see that. Man, those kids have tough life.

1035
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: You know. They played with this great school, but when

1036
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: they go home, they just home and home is hard,

1037
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, and they see and then there's so many

1038
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: ways of finding out about these guys too, YouTube, whatever,

1039
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: social media, and you can find out that, oh this

1040
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: guy does a windmill, dune whatever, you know. Yeah, and

1041
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: it makes it interesting. They need that. Yeah, So now

1042
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: this is good stuff. All right, well good, I can't

1043
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: wait pick your brain over the course of the next

1044
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: six weeks leaping up to the draft. All right, I

1045
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: think if Mickey survived the mountains, he'll be back next week.

1046
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a whole bunch of stuff to

1047
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: talk about next week. Oh he's gonna come here ranting. Yeah,

1048
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Speaker 1: can you imagine he probably doesn't like the uh, you know,

1049
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: the skateboard, the skyboards. Next week. Free agency starts on Wednesday,

1050
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Speaker 1: So that's right. Nice to be Thursday. You'll know a lot, yea,

1051
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: we will know a lot by Thursday next week. All right.

1052
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: That does it for mix shots for this week, and

1053
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: we'll talk at you again next week. All right Go Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, so