1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Our three of Clay and Buck starts now. Everybody, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: thank you for being here with us. We have Tutor 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Dixon joining in the conversation. She's the host of the 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon podcast on the Clay and Buck Network. And 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Tutor appreciate you calling in. Yes, thank you for having me. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction, Tutor. You're you're a 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: mom of a few few young kids, and you know four, 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: and yesterday the news all came in and it's it's 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: a just heartbreaking, it's a gut punch to the whole country. 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Twenty four hours after the incident. Wanted to give you 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: opportunity to just address the people of America and more 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: specifically people of the Nashville area. Well, it's it hits 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: very close to home for me because of my four girls, 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: two of them are nine. I have twins their nine 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: year olds and you wake up and see this and 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: it is devastating. Well, last night, I'm putting them to 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: bed and it's hard to not burst into tears when 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: you see them sleeping in their beds because you think 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: about the parents who are going through this incredible tragedy 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: and I'm just so mad about it. And I hear 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: all of the sides debating the politics of it, and 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: all I can think is, you can debate this all 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: you want, but you never come up with a solution 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: to keep our kids safe, and no realistic solution. I 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: never hear someone offer a realistic solution to keep our 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: kids safe. And it's not rocket science, but this school, 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: I mean, they had done the stuff that they thought 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: they needed to do, they had the one single entry point, 30 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: they had the door locked. This person blew through the door. 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it is, you know, maniac that had this 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: desire to go hurt kids, which I can't I cannot understand. 33 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: And we can come up with the political reasons all 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: we want and say this person falls into this category 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: or that category, but at the end of the day, 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: anybody who goes in and does this falls into the 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: category of some lunatic that we weren't protected against. And 38 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm mad. I think I think every parents mad. And 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: I know you've got four, I've got three. I don't 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: know where your girls go to school specifically, And you're right. 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: For people who have not watched the video, this killer 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: comes and shoots her way through locked doors to enter 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: into the school. So she shatters the glass, and that 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: is how she makes her entryway. I've been saying in 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: one solution that I see that that isn't remotely partisan. Tutor, 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: when you consider all of the money that we spend 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: on things that don't protect our kids at all, I 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: don't understand why every school doesn't have an armed security guard. 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: I mean the schools you've been to my house, to 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: schools that my kids go to, public schools outside of Nashville, 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: they have armed security guards. And I'm not saying that 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: that's going to stop this from ever happening, but I 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: do think if every person knew every school in America 54 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: has an armed security guard there, maybe it gives them 55 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: pause about the idea that they're going to be able 56 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: to just go in and take the lives of innocent 57 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: people with nobody to defend them exactly. I mean, I 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: think about the fact that I was in college when 59 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: we heard about Columbine, and that was a heck of 60 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: a long time ago, and we're still going, gee, what's 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: the answer, and how could we possibly do this? And 62 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: we got to take guns away from everybody, which is 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: when people tell you that that might feel good, it's 64 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: a lie. It's not a solution that's actually going to 65 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: stop somebody from doing this. How do we protect kids? 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: And I've seen technology that would blow your mind that 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: you can have a school that they'll say, oh, this 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: is going to be a school that looks like a fortress. No, 69 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: this technology sets it up to the first bullet flies 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: and everything locks down, and we are not taking this seriously. 71 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: We will put millions of dollars into schools for reading 72 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: that never actually impacts reading. We will put hundreds of 73 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars into conventions for teachers to go learn 74 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: about d EI and CRT. But we are not taking 75 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: care of our kids, making sure that we have security 76 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: guards there, making sure that the doors locked down, making 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: sure that there are measures in place to trap this 78 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: person so that they can't get to a classroom. This 79 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: is not extreme. This is what we should be sitting 80 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: down and say whatever it takes to make sure no 81 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: parent grieves the loss of their child who went to school. 82 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: I dropped my kids off this morning and I looked 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: in their eyes and I said, what happens if someone 84 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: walks into school today? Well, you do, don't look for them, 85 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: don't get distracted, kind a place to hide. And I 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: feel like, how can I be saying this to my kids? 87 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: How can I be so concerned that I am dropping 88 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: them off at a place where it's a gun free zone, 89 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: So the only person that's going to have a weapon 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: is the persons after them. No way. Speaking of Tuter Dixon, 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: she's the host of the Tutor Dixon podcast on the 92 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: Clay And Network. And you know, Tutor, I know that 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: in your first podcast interview it was with a firearms 94 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: expert who was talking about responsible firearms ownership and shooting 95 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: skills for women, particularly to protect themselves and their families. 96 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to know if there's anything that came from that. 97 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that there's a lot of people 98 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: right now who are thinking, Yeah, obviously you can't be 99 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: ever at all times, and that's why we're talking about 100 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: hardening the schools. But just an understanding of self defense 101 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: and an understanding of what the possibilities are seems like 102 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: a worthwhile part of the conversation of trying to make 103 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: all of us a bit safer. Yeah, we had Rick 104 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Ector on and it was really informative because this is 105 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: somebody who went from really only having a hunting rifle 106 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: to saying, I'm gonna teach women in Detroit to protect 107 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: themselves because of a story he saw on the news 108 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: of a woman who died, and he said, she didn't 109 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: have to die. But we went through the whole MSU shooting, 110 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: and that was somewhat of a unique school shooting because 111 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: this is somebody who wandered on campus, who had the 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: prosecutor really prosecuted a crime early on, potentially this person 113 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: would never have been able to buy a gun. And 114 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: this is another situation where the gun was purchased legally. 115 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: All signs look like in this situation Nashville, this gun 116 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: was purchased legally. We can say we can come up 117 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: with these false solutions and say we're going to have 118 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: some gun control methods that is going to catch the 119 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: bad guys, but it doesn't no matter what state we 120 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: look in. And that was what Rick was so clear about. 121 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: He said, look, you have these prosecutors that are soft 122 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: on crime, they're not doing this. Why not allow people 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: to protect themselves? And we've had folks say, well, if 124 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: you're a teacher, why shouldn't you be allowed to carry 125 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: a gun if you want to. And I said to 126 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: my girls today, what happens if someone comes in your classroom? 127 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: And they said, well, the teacher has a bat and 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: she can stand next to the door. And my heart 129 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: sinks because I'm like, we're using a bat against a gun. 130 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we going to say that our 131 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: kids are worthy of protection and that these stories of 132 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: gun control our fairy tales and this and Rick lays 133 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: it out pretty clearly as to what happened at MSU 134 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: and why we should be frustrated with these soft on 135 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: crime prosecutors that are letting these people go, letting these 136 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: people back on the streets, letting these people legally buy 137 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: firearms who under the system the way it is now, 138 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been able to. But that's the thing. 139 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: People say, Oh, we need strict or laws, and we 140 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: actually have laws that we need to abide by. But 141 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: in this case, we've got a mental health issue. And 142 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: that's another whole issue that I don't think we have 143 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: an understanding of how to get a handle on this, 144 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: because mental health it's not like a broken arm. It's 145 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: not like you know how to set it and get 146 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: it back together. Mental health is different for everybody, and 147 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: we're really challenged with this mental health issue and we're, 148 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, in a way, we're glorifying mental health issues 149 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: right now, and how is that helping our kids? It's 150 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: confusing our kids even more. And now we've got people 151 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: going in and shooting up a school that clearly was 152 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: under mental health care and needed help. But there's no 153 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: monitoring system for folks like this. And what is the 154 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: answer to that. You know, I'm not pretending that I 155 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: have that answer, but I think that we need These 156 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: are the things we need to be mourning over and 157 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: grieving over and saying we have. This has to be 158 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: top of mind. It has to be our top priority. 159 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't disagree at all. You've got four, Like I said, 160 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: I've got three. This twenty eight year old bought seven 161 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: guns from five different dealers. She was under treatment. Her 162 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: parents say they had no idea she had bought seven guns. 163 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: She was living at home. I come back again and again, 164 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not just saying this because you're on tutor. 165 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: You've got four kids. We've got every parent, grandparent known 166 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: to man out there. If your kids have emotional issues, 167 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: you need to be not only worried about their safety 168 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: with their emotional issues. You need to be worried about 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: other people's emotional safety and physical safety as well. There 170 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: needs to be far more I think parenting going on here. 171 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: I just I can't get past it. Buck, we were 172 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: talking about it last hour. She lived in the home 173 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: with her parents and they claim that she somehow hid 174 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: seven guns in the house and they had no idea. 175 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: That to me is parental failure. I'm sorry, it just is. 176 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: It's such an awkward situation because you've got a clearly 177 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: an adult, but this person is living with their parents 178 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: because they're not capable of being an adult. Right, So 179 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: at that point, when is the parents palpable? And in 180 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: Michigan and you see that the Oxford shooting, the parents 181 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: are being held accountable for the child. And I think, honestly, 182 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: this is what I think the future is. You have 183 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: to be held accountable for your child's actions. Now it 184 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: is there is a gray area when the child is seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, 185 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: then you our mom and dad. When the child is 186 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven and they're living with you, then are you responsible? 187 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: You know, if you're a roommate, are you responsible? But 188 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: you have a child that is living with you because 189 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: they have mental health issues. How do you not know this? 190 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: I can't imagine not knowing this. It's like you said, 191 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: this wasn't and it's not like these are tiny pistols. 192 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: We're talking about seven pretty good sized weapons you've got 193 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: in your household, and it's shocking and I just can't. 194 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: I can't let this get clouded by the politics of 195 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: all of it, because at the end of the day, 196 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: I cannot get past the fact that six people have 197 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: lost their lives. And once again it's going to be 198 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: out of the news cycle in a couple of days, 199 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: and maybe this one will be faster, and again there 200 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: will be no action on what we do to make 201 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: sure our most valuable, precious good is taking care of. 202 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, these are our kids. Listen to the Tutor 203 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Dixon podcast on the iHeart app and it's part of 204 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: the clay in Buck podcast network. Tutor, really appreciate your 205 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: perspective and we'll talk to you again soon. Thank you 206 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: for being here with us. Thank you so much. 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They should be held to account 222 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: for playing politics with our pensions and doing it without 223 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: our consent. To learn how Consumers Research is protecting all 224 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 1: of us from these Wolke investment firms, go to consumers 225 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Research dot org. That's consumers research dot org paid for 226 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: by Consumers Research. They're here to shed light on the 227 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: truth every day. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back 228 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are rolling through 229 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday edition of the program. Will continue to monitor to 230 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: see whether or not we get any more details about 231 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: the manifesto. You just heard from Tutor Dick sent her 232 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: podcast part of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton podcast network. 233 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: More people to come. I think you will enjoy those conversations. 234 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: Those discussions were broadening the horizons of the show. Encourage 235 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: all of you to get out there, and it's out there. 236 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: I did for this week play some deep dives with 237 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: Jack Possobic, which a lot of you I'm sure we'll 238 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: find very interesting, both on Ukraine and about Trump twenty 239 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: twenty four. Jack is firmly on the it is Trump, 240 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: it is his race and he's the only one, so um, 241 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: you should listen to it. Also Douglas Murray, you know 242 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: Douglas Murray War on the West. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, 243 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: super smart guy. We talked about a whole range of things, 244 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: including his visit to SEC Schools Clay, which was very interesting, 245 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: meaning his conversations about Western civilization and history. Douglas not 246 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: as much time on you know, Alabama's backup quarterback situations. Yeah, 247 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: not as much on that, but we discussed that as Anyway, 248 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: some great conversations this week, oh Anna, Paulina Luna as 249 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: well from from Congress up in the Tampa area of Florida. 250 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: So go check it out, everybody for sure. So Trump 251 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: has not been on Fox News very much. He's been 252 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: on this radio show way more than he's been on 253 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: Fox News. But last night, our friend Sean Hannity, who 254 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: many of you will hear in about thirty some odd minutes, 255 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: did a sit down with Trump from Mara Lago as 256 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: a part of his Sean Hannity Show. I watched the 257 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: entire hour long interview because I was curious to see 258 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: what Trump had to say, given that we haven't had 259 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: that many long form conversations with him in recent vintage. 260 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: And in particular, Hannity asked him about Rhonda Santis and 261 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: his relationship. And here's what Trump said, Rhonda Santis would 262 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: be doing if Trump had not endorsed him for governor. 263 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: The question I'm asked the most about about you of 264 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: lady is Rhonda Santis? What happened? I thought they were friends? 265 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: What happened? Not friends? I didn't know him well, he said, 266 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think I could win if I 267 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: could get your indorsement. And he was, you'll have to 268 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: check the records. But many many, many points it was over. 269 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: So I said, let's give it a shot. Run okay, 270 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: And he was desperate. I said, okay. I gave him 271 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: a nice inducement. I said, you write out what you'd 272 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: like and let me see it. He wrote it out. 273 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was terrible. I changed it, made it great. 274 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: I gave him a great indorsement. I got him the nomination. 275 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: By the way, couldn't have never gotten the nomination. He 276 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: would be working in either a pizza parlor place or 277 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: a law office right now, okay, and he wouldn't be 278 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: very hasty. First of all, it's a very funny line. 279 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: Why place or a law office as many as many 280 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: often make the choice to do. I know personally, if 281 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing this radio show, I'd have two options, 282 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: pizza parlor or be a lawyer. M But but yeah, 283 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: look it is there is no love loss between these two. 284 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: It's a funny line. It gets more attention than it 285 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: would if he just said, hey works in a law office. 286 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: I did you watch this whole thing? Buck? I watch. 287 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I watched it all last night. You know, Sean sat 288 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: down with him and and UM, yeah, we Carrie and 289 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: I were here watching it last night. I am really curious. Um, 290 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't even want to want to weigh in on this, 291 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: um before I let pete before we open the lines 292 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: to folks, if you are all in Trump already, now, 293 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: how did you think Trump did last night? So I 294 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: don't I don't want to. If you're a just if 295 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: you're a dissantist partisan in this one, I probably know 296 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: how you think Trump did last night, right, But I'm wondering, 297 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: how do people that think that Trump is is the guy, 298 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: the only guy? What did they think of the interview? Um? 299 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Because when we come back, uh, Jason Chaffitz over on Fox, 300 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: some of you may have seen this clip. I don't 301 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: want to he gave a very um uh forceful I 302 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: have seen this clip. I haven't seen us. Did he 303 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: think it was awesome, sauce and amazing or did he 304 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: think that it was the opposite of that. I'm just wondering. 305 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: We'll come back and play this. I want to leave 306 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: people on the edge a little bit on this one 307 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: because I'm really curious to know what The response from 308 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: some of this audience was about this before before we 309 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: even weigh in, just in terms of how Trump did 310 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: in the interview and his answers and what he said. 311 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm already gonna get people just 312 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: asking the question you get yelled at now. You know that, 313 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: right if you say, hey, guys, how do you think 314 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: Trump did? There will be people who are like, how 315 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: dare you ask? How told you? Buck? 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That's t the number two T. 342 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: So we said we'd we'd hear from our rand over 343 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: at Fox Jason Chafits, Well, we'd play the clip where 344 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: he talked about the Trump interview. Last night. I watched 345 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Sean did the first really meaningful sit 346 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: down with him. And I think about six months that 347 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: no one's really talked to Trump. But this length work 348 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: for quite some time. Certainly worth going and uh and 349 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: folks tuning into it on Fox if you if you 350 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: missed it last night. But by the way, did we 351 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: get some I want to do we get a bunch 352 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: of calls in on this. I'm so because I want 353 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: of them lined up, one of them lined up before. Okay, 354 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean sin Clay, this is the problem. Okay, this 355 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: is it. This is a challenge that I have here. 356 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: We we take we helply have so many lines whatever 357 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: it is we've we've got, you know, a half dozen 358 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: or so phone lines. We can take it one time here, 359 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: right and if all the lines light up with one 360 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: with one opinion, there's not people will say, well, why 361 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: can't you take them or varied? You know, we'll get 362 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: we'll get a little bit. People say, well, you're just 363 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: picking and choosing. We're literally going with the calls that 364 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: we have that I have to get past the screener 365 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: for topic, every for being topical and clarity of the 366 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: actual connection. But we're just taking what we're getting. When 367 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: we put this out. I just want to say that 368 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: before we get to some of these calls. I mean, 369 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: here was the Jason Chafits response to the Trump sit 370 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: down with Hannity. In terms of how Trump did play it, 371 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: I thought Sean Hannity did a good job. But I 372 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: watched that and I thought, where is Donald Trump? I 373 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: voted for Donald Trump twice, I have defended him countless times. 374 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: I thought he was horrific. I think that was the 375 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: worst interview I've seen the president too. He was whining, 376 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: he was complaining, he played the victim card time and 377 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: time again, and then after that he complained that you know, 378 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: somebody had endorsed was now running against him. And I 379 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: thought he was absolutely horrific. He's the former president of 380 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: the United States. Act like it. He didn't in that interview. 381 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's the that's the most uh elbows in 382 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: the pain I've ever heard Jason throw anywhere on anything, really, 383 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: maybe going back to when he was in the Benghazi 384 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: hearings in Congress. He's that a talented guy. I watched 385 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: the interview and I left thinking, oh, I like Donald 386 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: Trump and Sean Hannity more than I did before I 387 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: sat down and watched the interview we like super funny 388 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: and engaging and was very funny, thought, and I thought 389 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: Sean was well prepared and the questions were good. And 390 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: maybe it's just that you and I watched so much 391 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: and listen to so much Trump. None of the answers 392 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: really surprised me. But I thought he did a pretty 393 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: good job of answering them in an, you know, engaging way, 394 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: and I thought he didn't dodge anything of course that 395 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: Hannity was asking. I will just say this though, I 396 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: mean trying to interview Trump, having done it numerous times, 397 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: Clay's done it numerous times, it is it is rogue 398 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: elephant time. I mean, you are Trump is going where 399 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: he's going. I just you know, people will say, why 400 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: don't you jump in more? You try to jump in 401 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: on Trump more when he's in the middle of an answer, 402 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: and look, he's the former president, he's the candidate. You know, 403 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: people are gonna want to hear what he has to 404 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: say more than anything else, obviously, But even if you 405 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: try to shape the conversation a little bit more or 406 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: follow up, Trump has just this way. He's a He's 407 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: like a verbal steam roller. You know, you can't you think, 408 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: by the way, about the loyalty argument, because on the 409 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: one hand, I do think I can see, Okay, Rod 410 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: de Santis, I do believe is the governor of Florida 411 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: the first time because of Trump. That is, I buy 412 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: into Trump one hundred percent. DeSantis would not have been 413 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: elected governor of Florida in twenty eighteen without Trump. But 414 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: DeSantis then served four years as governor of Florida did 415 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: not get the Trump endorsement at all in twenty two 416 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: and one by nineteen points. So I can both simultaneously 417 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: see the Trump argument of hey, I helped Ron get 418 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: his opportunity. But then when you prove that you're really 419 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: good at that job, and that you're so good at 420 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: that job that you deserve another one. Let me give 421 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: you a sports analogy. Buck. If you went out and 422 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: you said, hey, I know sports, you should go draft 423 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: this guy. He's going to be a really good baseball pitcher, right, 424 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: and then you go draft him and he plays for 425 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: four years in the minor leagues and he got his 426 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: start with that team because you said draft him, and 427 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: then he ends up the day one starter of the 428 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: major league baseball team and bumps you down to two. 429 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't think any athlete would come out and say 430 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: I thought it was really disrespectful that he took the 431 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: starting nod over me, given he got his opportunity because 432 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: of me. I mean, I'll just say my version of 433 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: or my feeling about that argument is there are people 434 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: in conservative media who only do the jobs they do 435 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: in some cases because I reached out to them, made 436 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: connections for them, and some of them have become very successful. 437 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: I would say that three out of four of the 438 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: people that I can think of were in that role. 439 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: You know, they're like polite to me, but there's never 440 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: there's no sense of like, oh thank you, and there's 441 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: no sense of loyalty. They've just gone on and done 442 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: their own thing. But I always say I do it 443 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: for the movement, and I do it because I like 444 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: to help people. I don't do it because I want 445 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: anything in response. Now, that's just trying to help people 446 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: in our business play. Isn't what's most important, what's best 447 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: for the country. Who is best for the role right now? 448 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: That to me, I think is the overriding consideration and 449 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: should be for Trump and for descantists. Now, Trump obviously 450 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: thinks he is and he is ahead in the polls, 451 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: and he's the former president, and I get it, but 452 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to think that somebody should 453 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: be excluded from their call to service. You know, desantists 454 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: may have preyed on this a lot, and he may 455 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: feel called to it, and that's something we're gonna be here. 456 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: He hasn't even announced yet, right, so we're also having 457 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: this crazy discussion about it. Let me also make this 458 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: analogy back, because I think it's maybe even better than 459 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: the one I just did. If you hire somebody as 460 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: an assistant coach in any sport and they are so 461 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: good that they get ahead job, and then they end 462 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: up coaching against you in the super Bowl, you would 463 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: never say I can't believe he's trying to beat me 464 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. The only reason he even has 465 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: a job is because I found him when nobody else 466 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: would give him a chance, and now he's in the 467 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: super Bowl because of me. How dare he try to 468 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: beat me? Like that would be a ludicrous argument for 469 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: a former head coach who hired his assistant to make 470 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: and that, to me is kind of what Trump is 471 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: doing here. Like I said, we're going to close it 472 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: out here by we got a bunch of people on 473 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: the line. If the line is busy, just know that 474 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: we're going to rack and stack some calls here. So 475 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: once you hear one and we finished that call, you 476 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: can then jump in because I want to get a 477 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: diversity of perspect that word, a diversity of perspective out 478 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: d ie. You know all this one um and and 479 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: right now I think they're all leading it in one direction. 480 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: But it's just what do we think of the the 481 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: interview last night, the Trump response. There were some funny 482 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: moments with Trump. There's a reason why this guy was 483 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: able to do what he what he did in twenty sixteen. 484 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: But I want to hear from the folks out there, 485 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: and I want to try to always we're trying to 486 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: play this as fair and square? Is it Farren? Square? 487 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: Square and fair? Thank you, Fret Fahren, Square as we 488 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: can right as we can. And that means opening up 489 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: to all of you. Um. I mean, look, I mean 490 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: I just had Jack Posolvik. We sat down for an hour. 491 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: Go listen to Clay and Buck podcast. Oh and we 492 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: have the is it the the president of the Heritage Foundation, 493 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: but he's popping by, Yes, So we're gonna be joined 494 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: just a moment by Kevin Roberts. I'm up here in 495 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: uh In, DC broadcasting literally from the Heritage Foundation offices. 496 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: So he's going to step in and say hi in 497 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: this next segment, all right, So we'll come back to 498 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: that to second Clay, what do you got for us? 499 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I want to tell you all about 500 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: our friends at Hillsdale and how impactful they have been 501 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: in terms of helping to fight battles that matter so 502 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: much when it comes to education in our country in particular, 503 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: Hillsdale is going to make sure that they go out 504 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: and give you the best possible education everywhere. 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You 524 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: can see for yourself. Learn more about Hillsdale at Clay 525 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: and Buck fo Hillsdale dot com. That's Clay and Buck 526 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: for Hillsdale dot com. The Clay and Buck podcast deep 527 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: dives with cool content, surprise guests. Get it all on 528 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: the iheartap or wherever you get your podcasts. Closing up 529 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: shop here Tuesday edition of the program I've said, I'm 530 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: broadcasting from the Heritage Foundation in DC to sit in 531 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: with us on this final segment of the show. Kevin 532 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: Roberts he is still recovering from his beloved Texas Longhorns. Buck, 533 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: you don't know anything about this. Losing down the stretch 534 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: against Miami to cost themselves a final Longhorns almost defeat 535 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: the Crimson Tide in person at right, the right team. 536 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. We were in Austin for the game between 537 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: Texas and Alabama back in September of last year. Forget 538 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: my beloved Longhorns, he forgets that. I'm I was supposed 539 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: to be at that game in the same box with 540 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: the two of you and are shared friends. Yes, but 541 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: I got a call to be in Bedminster with a 542 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: former president. Yeah, and I told him, you know, sir, 543 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: no disrespect, but the Longhorns. I got to follow this game. 544 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: So we are talking about You're in an interesting spot, 545 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: like a lot of people are as the primary season 546 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: hit catches up on in earnest, and we wanted to 547 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: give people an opportunity to react. I'm sure you saw 548 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity interview last night with President Trump where 549 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: he discussed that he thought that DeSantis was being disloyal. Uh, 550 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 1: and let's go in here Diane in Melbourne floor, by 551 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: the way, thank you for allowing me to do the 552 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: show from here. You guys do tremendous work at the 553 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation. Diane and Melbourne, Florida. What did you think 554 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: of the interview? How would you assess what you saw 555 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: last night from Trump? Well, I thought Trump was good. 556 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm a big Trump supporter, I'm a big Defantis supporter, 557 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: and I you know, Trump did a good job. But 558 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'm a little stirred on DeSantis after 559 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: his very lukewarm or actually non supportive Trump against a 560 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: malicious prosecution of Brad. I was a little surprised when 561 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: Trump didn't support or when Desantist didn't support Trump after 562 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: the Mara Lago, right, that sort of shocked me. But 563 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: then after he didn't support him with the brag thing, 564 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, it just gives me pause. You want your 565 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: governor or have your back. I mean, I'm a conservative, 566 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: Defansis is supposedly a conservative, So you know, I think 567 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: if Brad came after me, would I get any support? 568 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, I just think it was a big unforced 569 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: er on de Stantus as part. And after he did Dad, 570 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: I started to do some research on DeSantis and you know, 571 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm reading reports that he's supported by Paul Ryan and 572 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: Jeb Bush. So you know, I don't know. I'm I'm 573 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: getting a little fired on him now, thank you for it, 574 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: called Diane Roy and Florida also buck once the way 575 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: in what did you think Roy? Good afternoon, guys. Yes 576 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: to Santus is my governor. But like Javis said, he 577 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: was whining every bit of it. But let me ask 578 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: you a question. Maybe you can get into this tomorrow. 579 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry was whining or you thought you thought Trump 580 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: was whining like chaffa, Trump was whin. Yeah, Trump was whining. 581 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: You know. It's like, listen to me because he hasn't spoken. 582 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: You haven't heard anything at length from him in months 583 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: until until handing the interviewed. But let me ask you 584 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: this question. You remember they said they we're gonna have 585 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: a red wave come last election. I was one of 586 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: those people. I was one of those people saying it Roy, 587 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: I thought we were going to get it. I was wrong. 588 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: I did too. But now Trump is limited to one 589 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: term if he does get reelected, which leads to term limits. 590 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: But that's another story. What if, and I'm saying this 591 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: with kindness, what if these two knuckleheads got together in 592 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: a room and said, hey, let me run for president. 593 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: Let me take you for the vice presidency. Groom you, 594 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: I do one term, then you run for president and 595 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: maybe get two terms out of it, and the Republicans 596 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: stick it right back to the Democrats. Look, it's a thought, 597 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: it's definitely a look, it's the thought that a lot 598 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: of people have been sharing that they would team up. 599 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: I just I mean, look, if it happened, it would 600 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: be remarkable, and I think it would be unstoppable politically. 601 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that anybody has the expectation that that 602 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: is going to happen, But that doesn't mean that it can't, 603 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: and it's certainly be interesting. What is best for the 604 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: country is our guiding star here to the degree that 605 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: it can be, and I think that anything that's pushing 606 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: in that direction is to the good. Matt in Columbus, 607 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: Ohio on the Trump pizzeria reference, what's going on, Matt, 608 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: how you guys doing? I love the show? Thank you, 609 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: You're a great taste. In radio comments, I believe that 610 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: Trump made the pizza parlor commat to de stant this 611 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: because multiple times he's referred to him as a groomer, 612 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: and I think he's referencing pizza Gate. No, I don't 613 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: think that I don't think that's yeah, a little bit 614 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: of an Italian shot by saying he'd be working in 615 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: a pizza parlor. That's the meat ball ron reference. I'm 616 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: curious we've got Kevin Roberts from the Heritage Foundation in 617 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: here with us. How much more difficult is primary season 618 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: for you guys as opposed to general election season. Well, 619 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: first of all, we have a deep bench, so it's glorious. 620 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: We're talking about multiple candidate, right, But it's difficult because 621 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: we're friends with all of these guys and gals. Yeah, 622 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: because whoever the next president is, whoever he or she is, 623 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: the voters will have their say. We want heritage and 624 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: conservative policies to reign supreme because we're gonna need two, 625 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: if not three, consecutive terms of conservative governance to take 626 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: back the country. Buck. We hear, I bet, most commonly 627 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: among our audience a desire not for Trump to win 628 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: or de Santists to win, but for them to be 629 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: on the same ticket, don't you. I mean, if we 630 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: were really just analyzing the amount of what's what I 631 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: hear from people most often is they want them on 632 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: the same ticket. They're they're too great, they're too great. 633 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: Warriors for the cause. And you know, it's it's impossible 634 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: to talk about Trump, I think without recognizing first of all, 635 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: the unbelievable victory. I mean, Trump saved us and I've 636 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: never forgotten this. Trump saved us from eight years of 637 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Okay, so just correct worth pointing that out. 638 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: And then I think governed very well on a whole 639 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: variety of fronts. We can't get it all of it now, 640 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: we don't have all the time. But Trump was I thought, 641 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: a very strong president. And you know, now you just 642 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: have the is it the you know, this is the 643 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: classic It feels almost like Shakespearean drama here, or one 644 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: of the classic operas like the you know, the the 645 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: up and coming prince versus the the aging king. You know, 646 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: who's the best to rule the kingdom? Well, ultimately you 647 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: want what's best for the kingdom, and you hope that 648 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: they work it out and they figure it out. Yeah, 649 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: So that's that's where I would take this play. That's 650 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: that's how I see it. We got Brett in Wisconsin 651 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: and we're just taking these calls in order. There is 652 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: no favoritism. Brett, what do you got for us? Hey, guys, 653 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Hey, I just wanted to point 654 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: out that I'm kind of sick of the fact that 655 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: Trump still doesn't understand politics. After all these years. You 656 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: would think you would know that there really is no 657 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: loyalty or there is, there is very few loyalties. And 658 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: he's kind of nice in fifteen sixteen seventeen when he 659 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 1: was kind of this guy, you know who he wasn't 660 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: a politician, you know, but there comes to a point 661 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: where you got to kind of play along, you know, 662 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: not so much play along, but you got to understand 663 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: the game that you're in, you know, and you know 664 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: this whining about these people, you know, I mean he 665 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 1: did it to tet cruise, you know, he couldn't believe 666 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: Tet crews there or Scarborough, you know, people would shake 667 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: his hand and then go on TV and he couldn't 668 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: understand all of these people are savage and him on 669 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: TV effort shaking his hand, you know, and I just 670 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: it's like, get with it, man. It always reminds me back, 671 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: thank you for the call of when people say I'm 672 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 1: so sick of them playing politics, and you're like, that's 673 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: literally the game they're in. You know, nobody's like I'm 674 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: so sick of them playing football. Yeah, that they're playing 675 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: in football. You know, like politics is a game in 676 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: many ways, and you know the Trump is in the 677 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: political game. We got Kevin Roberts from the Heritage Foundation. 678 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: We want to give you the flash word, sir, twenty seconds. 679 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking care of my buddy Clay. Happy to 680 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: have you. Well. We need every elected official who's conservative 681 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: to wield the power that he or she has. What 682 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: time is it an America? It's time for us to 683 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: charge hills and take this great country back. Amen. For 684 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: that will be with you tomorrow. Thanks for hanging with 685 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: us on Clay and back.