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Speaker 1: Don't Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, let's ride.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in intent, intent, and I know

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Speaker 2: sometimes ooh, I didn't mean to I didn't intend to

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Speaker 1: Well you still did.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you don't have to apologize, but couldn't

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Speaker 2: that work in both directions?

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Speaker 1: I will explain exactly who and what I am.

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Speaker 2: Talking about, because I'm fired up about it tonight in

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Speaker 1: It's Mark Willity from Salam.

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Speaker 2: But the first thing I'm gonna do welcome in my

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Speaker 1: I'm good man. When you were giving us that little

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Speaker 1: tease there, I was like, what was he in my

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Speaker 2: We've all been there, right, yeah, and you know, especially

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Speaker 1: Well, couldn't that go in both directions?

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Speaker 2: What if your intent was bad but what ended up

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Speaker 2: happening wasn't all that bad. Shouldn't you still be punished

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Speaker 2: I go into a bank with a mask and a gun. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's that's how I go into the bank, and and

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Speaker 2: I slowly walk over to the teller, and I.

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Speaker 1: Say, it's time to do the darn thing.

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Speaker 2: You get right now, but don't hit that little button

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, police officer happens to drive by right outside.

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Speaker 2: Just happenstance. As I'm doing all this, I change my

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Speaker 2: mind and go, you know what, better get out of here.

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Speaker 1: I better get out of here.

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Speaker 2: You don't end up stealing any money you roll out?

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Speaker 2: Should you be punished as if you robbed a bank

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Speaker 2: that was your intent. I was suppose, well, you broke

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Speaker 2: a law, right, if you did rob the bank and

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Speaker 2: the police catch you, the money's all ended up back

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Speaker 2: in the bank anyway. Anyway, Okay, here's what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 2: Explain to me how what Patrick Beverley did a few

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Speaker 1: Than the malice at the Palace. WHOA, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: can name a few things that are different. Physical harm, okay,

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Speaker 2: If we just whittle it down to the individual, what

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Speaker 2: did those individuals do? What's happening around them is out

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Speaker 2: if somebody you know goes and gets a broom, okay,

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Speaker 2: But each individual that night malice at the Palace. Not

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Speaker 2: all of them, of course, but some of them. The

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Speaker 1: I am going to go hurt, said fan? Correct? Yes, okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: But and and how is being bothered and physical assault? At?

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Speaker 1: Physically being assaulted is different? Right? So if someone throws

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Speaker 1: That's different than them yelling at me, I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, And I would therefore argue that the people

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Speaker 1: They yelled cankon? Was it can coon? Or did he

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Speaker 2: literally the most innocuous thing that I've ever heard start

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Speaker 1: time for that. Man, Well it's trashing this bush league.

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Speaker 2: Done a great job of self promotion. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: The fact that he threw the ball, missed the person,

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Speaker 2: Everybody calls me crazy when I say this, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Doesn't look like much.

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Speaker 2: It's like, ah, he threw a ball, Lady got whacked

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Speaker 2: that's all right. Then he went to the locker room

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're just mad because it was the media.

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Speaker 1: This is what I likened it to.

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Speaker 2: and I decided on my own during a commercial break

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Speaker 2: to go physically assault one of the listeners. And then

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Speaker 2: asked them, I'll come, but you need to subscribe to

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Speaker 2: my podcast first. What like, honestly, and I hate references

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Speaker 1: We'd be fired.

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Speaker 2: like assaulting a fan, attempting to do it twice, accidentally

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Speaker 2: assaulting one that that did nothing, and then finding out

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Speaker 2: I'm Adam Silver, he doesn't play ball next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I think he posted on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: And if security or whatnot doesn't handle something like that,

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Speaker 1: You should grow up.

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Speaker 2: That's what should happen when the game right, or just

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Speaker 1: You got two choices as an athlete, win or take

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Speaker 1: that's on them unless they physically assault you, or they

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Speaker 1: take it to a direct progatary trigger word usage and

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Speaker 1: rant offensive to not only you but others around them.

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Speaker 1: Then you know, but shotgun a ball into a lady's face,

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Speaker 1: then to double down and go into the locker room

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Speaker 1: and discredit someone who's been in the business for forty

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Speaker 1: Who's signing up to listen to Patrick Beverley talk about anything?

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Speaker 1: Number one? Who's signing up for the Patrick Beverley podcast

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Speaker 2: Here's here's the wild one, bro. I didn't even know

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Speaker 2: he had a potcat. No one did.

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Speaker 1: And that's no Paul George has got one, and no

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green has got one.

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Speaker 2: Point I don't even know Patrick Beverley had podcasts.

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Speaker 1: No one can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you did a good job of promoting it because

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Speaker 1: And guess how many subscribers won't be there.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever get into it with a fan ever?

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Speaker 2: Ow?

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Speaker 1: Even when yet talk? Don't bomb me? How you hanging

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Speaker 1: that raspberry strawberry? Yes? I do? Ows.

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Speaker 2: This is back when h And I'm gonna make myself

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Speaker 2: when music didn't need a feud to be popular.

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Speaker 1: That is true, just good music. Just can we just

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Speaker 2: like I told you earlier. I'm like, I couldn't even

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Speaker 2: I don't know why it's happening. I really don't care.

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Speaker 4: It's a very long feud like that. I know it's

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Speaker 1: Did it fire up like mad with this couple of weeks? Science?

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Speaker 2: I always thought that that was Steph Curry Clay Thompson

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Speaker 1: I want to learn.

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Speaker 4: So of course Drake is on tour, so all this

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Speaker 4: Well, the reason why Kendrick was also mad was because

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'm getting. I don't buy it.

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Speaker 4: No, it's real, it's real, Kendrick.

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Speaker 2: Buck up to buckle up.

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Speaker 6: As far as what you just discussed, I literally thought

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Speaker 1: There you have it, Thank you, Steve. I apologize. I

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Speaker 5: As he has discussed on the show.

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Speaker 1: Threw me up, you wall man, the diss of the weekend.

437
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Speaker 1: He's had enough. I get it, man, I get it

438
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: all right, Steve. That's great.

439
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Speaker 2: I can't wait for next hour when he drops another one,

440
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: another one. We're live inthe tiraq dot com studios where

441
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: distracks are made. I did ask you, and because we

442
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: got off track, I never got the answer.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever get into it with a fan? Yeah, yeah,

444
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: of course, I mean, let me hear about it. Look,

445
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: I always took an approach of ha ha, my life

446
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: is better than yours. So just to be real, like,

447
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go back and forth with you. There's

448
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: not much you can say to me that'll bring me

449
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: out of character in terms of wanting to physically harm someone,

450
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: because the fact of the matter is you're yelling down

451
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: at me at doing something less than zero point one

452
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: percent of the population can do with that knowledge alone,

453
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: I've always felt like I was in a pretty good spot. Now.

454
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Speaker 1: I don't know who the people were and and and

455
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: and what they had to say and or any anything

456
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: like that in terms of their lives when they left

457
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: the stadium, but I knew it wasn't like mine, and

458
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: I was happy with mine. So being comfortable in yourself

459
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: and what you do. Like if we lose a big

460
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: game or playoff game and they're screaming, aha, you're going

461
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: to Cancun, and I would be like, yeah, on a

462
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: private jet with I'm like with like right, like on

463
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: a private jet with twenty of the people I love

464
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Speaker 1: the most and a villa that you'd cut your whole

465
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Speaker 1: arm off to even view.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, But okay, I want to go to Senior

467
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: frogs right now, like what's wrong with.

468
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Speaker 1: The Like, Oh, that's how I would go back at you, right,

469
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm not what you got. It's like on Twitter, right,

470
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: like if someone you so stupid that was dumb and

471
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: YadA YadA, and I would be like, explain why, well

472
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: because you don't know what you're talking about and you

473
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: didn't and this and you just an ignorant and end well,

474
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Speaker 1: I mean whether you agree with what I'm saying or not?

475
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: Am I ignorant? I don't you know? Well you know

476
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, I'm just if you feed into it,

477
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: it grows, right, if you feed into it, it grows.

478
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: Who I always came back with with something that they

479
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: would think about going home, like dam he was right,

480
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: man right like a man, I bet I bet he

481
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: is going to cano. I bet I bet it would be.

482
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Speaker 1: I would I would kill the gold with him, like

483
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So you're not gonna get me

484
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Speaker 1: out of character. It's very difficult to get me out

485
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Speaker 1: of character. The only way you get me out of

486
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: character is dealing with my family, my wife, my kids,

487
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: something like that. Or you physically touch me. You physically

488
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: touch me, Hey man, good luck well, whatever comes next, well,

489
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: and that would be I mean, that's it.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, well, I mean you're like, you're

491
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Speaker 2: an offensive lineman. Do you have an issue with people

492
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: coming up notatching you a lot? Does that happen? But

493
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: do you be surprised? Man, this, this thing called alcohol

494
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: makes people.

495
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't drink, right, So it's not like two drunk

496
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 1: people talking to each other. It's one extremely sober person

497
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: and one person who's had way too many drinks. So

498
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: he's looking at the world differently than it really is,

499
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: for sure, and so sometimes you just got to remind them, Hey, man,

500
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: this is not fantasy. This is reality, and you don't

501
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 1: want this reality. Not that I'm a tough guy and

502
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: all of that, but what I will do is I

503
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: will not let someone invade my personal space. We're not

504
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: doing it. We're not having those absolutely no.

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Speaker 2: But but also I'm gathering that you largely in your career,

506
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Speaker 2: you did this with words.

507
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: Of course, I love words. I'm a writer, of course,

508
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: so like I have no issue with that.

509
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: Like somebody wants to jaw player, wants to jaw back,

510
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: knock yourselves out.

511
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Speaker 1: I think I told this story. We were in Saint Louis,

512
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: I think playing and we were coming out of the

513
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: tunnel and this guy was leaning through you could see

514
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: underneath the tarp when we were coming out of the

515
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: locker room and he was screaming. We were standing out

516
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: there waiting to be called onto the field and he

517
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: was just screaming all kinds of cuts. You suck, seventy

518
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: four Salam salami, you sug. We're gonna destroy your team.

519
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: So I just turned around and I looked at him.

520
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, yeah, I'm talking to you, man,

521
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: you suck.

522
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna beat you up. And he was just going

523
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: and going and going there. And I was like, you know,

524
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: what if what if you don't win? And he was like,

525
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: We're still going to beat you were stiggled off. I

526
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: was like, hey man, let me ask you something. What

527
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: do you do for a living? I watch you get

528
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: beat and we're gonna watch you lose and you suck.

529
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: You the worst player on the team. And I was like,

530
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do after this game? Like I'm

531
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: really having this conversation my teammates last and say know

532
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: what this is going. I'm gonna be celebrating with my bros.

533
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: This victory and all that, and I said, you know

534
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do after the game, Yeah, You're gonna

535
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: cry like a little baby because you know he's throwing

536
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: the cuss words in there and all of that. And

537
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm just like, no, whether we win to lose this game,

538
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back into the locker room. I'm

539
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: going to board our charter flight. We're going to land.

540
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to the stadium where I work.

541
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to drive my one hundred thousand dollar car

542
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: to my two million dollar home, and I'm going to

543
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: spend time with my beautiful wife and move on to

544
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: the next game. Well, then has to win or lose.

545
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: What about you? And he was just stuck right away.

546
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: I didn't have any of this, but that's it. He

547
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: doesn't know that. And I'm been amazing, and he was like,

548
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into my seven thousand dollars car. Whatever

549
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: he was doing wasn't gonna top that. So he was

550
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: just like, oh, bro, you got me. And he put

551
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: his hand down through there and gave me the fist bump, right,

552
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: and then I ran out on the field and we

553
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: end up beating him anywhere, Like it's it so you got.

554
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: Of course for me, I'm just like, hey, man, I'm

555
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: not gonna buy it. And if I turned, if he

556
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: saw that he was getting to me, then that just

557
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: fuels the fire totally. I'm not gonna let you do that, man,

558
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna let you steal my joy. I'm

559
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: doing something that I love to do, and you here

560
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: watch me do it.

561
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: And and and it's as easy as that if you

562
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: ask me. And so uh, this one, for me is

563
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: is unforgivable. I find it to be completely unforgivable. We're

564
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Speaker 2: in the tyrech dot com studios. I haven't really got

565
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: a chance to get what you really think though.

566
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Speaker 1: About what happened in the locker room.

567
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: Later and we're talking about ye Patrick Beverley and oh,

568
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: by the way, one of his former teammates needs to

569
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: be discussed as well for his behavior. His behavior is

570
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: a little bit different though. We'll get to all of

571
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Speaker 2: that here coming up. Mark Willarty from Salam This is

572
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

574
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Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

576
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Speaker 3: listen live.

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Speaker 1: A we got lots to play with.

578
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Speaker 2: Tonight at the tire rack dot Com studios top of

579
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Speaker 2: the hour, a Laker fan gets loose on the Darwinham situation.

580
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also apparently with you, is this Tom Brady roast

581
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: happening right now? Is that my understanding? Is it?

582
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Speaker 2: I'd love to know if you were gonna roast Tom

583
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: Brady what quirk would you go after? He seems like

584
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: the guy that's uh, you know, almost bulletproof. But before

585
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: we leave, Patrick Beverley, I think we've sufficiently covered hucking

586
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: a ball at the fans twice. Talk to me about

587
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: telling certain members of the media, adding the fact that

588
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: it was a female, add in the fact that she's

589
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: widely respected and has been doing this for a long time.

590
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, do you subscribe tom a pod? Because if

591
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: you don't, you can't interview me. And oh, by the way,

592
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: you can't even stand there and have a microphone near

593
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Speaker 2: my face.

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00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: You need to get out of here, get out of

595
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: the circle if you don't.

596
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: Subscribe to my podcast.

597
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: And apparently one of the.

598
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Speaker 2: Funnier but also frustrating things is that no one else

599
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: around this circle did or said anything. And this isn't

600
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: to make an excuse for him, But I largely think

601
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: that most of them apparently been dealing with this all

602
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: year from Patrick. Therefore it just sort of has already

603
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: become some sort of odd normalcy to them. They probably

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00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: all subscribe to his pod, or at least you do,

605
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: and therefore they just kind of sat there like stonefaced, Yeah,

606
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: you gotta subscribe to his pod.

607
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: What was your take on that whole thing? First of all,

608
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Speaker 1: I thought it was wildly disrespectful. Yes, I thought it

609
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: was unprofessional. I thought shame on him. I thought that

610
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: to question the integrity of storied member of the media

611
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: for your own selfish game. I thought was you know,

612
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: beyond anything that you would want a role model or

613
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: someone in his positioned to be as a professional athlete.

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00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: We have things that we're mandatory to do. Availability to media,

615
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: whether they subscribe to your podcast or not, it's part

616
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: of those things. Yes, making yourself available for the media.

617
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: That is a rule. It's not a suggestion. It's not

618
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: a We hope teams get fined when players aren't available

619
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Speaker 1: for the media. Our media aren't allowed access to certain

620
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: players or you know right, it's Lynch, Marshall Lynch famously,

621
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Speaker 1: I'm here that's exactly right now.

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Speaker 2: Now, by the way, can you shed light and maybe

623
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: the NFL and the NBA is a little different. If

624
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: you get requested at the podium, yeah, that's that's not

625
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: a that's not a request, that's a demand. But we

626
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: often hear from players I'm not talking tonight, or I

627
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: don't want it. Like, it's not mandatory that you do

628
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: every requested interact all the time.

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Speaker 1: The locker room is open to the media if you're

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Speaker 1: going to you can't pick and choose the media though,

631
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. You go there, you go right

632
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: like if you're there, if they're all at is locker

633
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: and they're asking questions and you can't be like you

634
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: get out, you go, you get out here, you go.

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00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't like you. Your face is stupid. You don't

636
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: do my podcast any of that. Right, If you have

637
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: a problem with someone in the media, then you go

638
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: to your media director and you say, hey, man, I'm

639
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: just not feeling it, I don't want and then they

640
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: handle the situation. They handle the situation. And so it's

641
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: a situation now where you know you have someone who

642
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: was an idiot out on the court and now he's

643
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: an idiot in the locker room. So I mean, I

644
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: mean an idiot plus an idiot. He was an idiot.

645
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: And now I'm not quing, I'm questioning his actions. What

646
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: he did was idiotic on both accounts.

647
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Speaker 2: Completely, completely and by extension. If the reports are true

648
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: that this has been going on all year.

649
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Speaker 1: And shame on them. Hey, I'm on them, what the

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Speaker 1: hell are you doing? On them? What the hell are

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Speaker 1: you doing? And and hey reporters who played along it

652
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: was probably cute and fu something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like, ah, that's pat But like at

654
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Speaker 2: a certain point, the the empowerment goes to the media,

655
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: because who do you think the world sides with if

656
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Speaker 2: if the reporters go, hey, Patrick, you can't do that,

657
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Speaker 2: and Patrick flips out on the reporter on camera.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's gonna go That's not a good

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00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: look man. Well, Patrick's gonna get skewered if that happens.

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Speaker 1: That's all the whole thing was about. For me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is about as bad of a night as

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Speaker 2: an NBA player could have, you know, without like breaking

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Speaker 2: the law.

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Speaker 1: I mean he did break the law, yes, and he

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Speaker 1: kind of did break the law to someone's face with

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Speaker 1: a basketball.

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Speaker 2: Exactly all right, Mark Willardy from Salam, I think he

668
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Speaker 2: from has something he'd like to say about Darvin Ham.

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Speaker 1: Do that next.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you get aggressive and you really stick

671
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: your nose in there, you know, like a like a lineman.

672
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: And then other times you put your feet up, you

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Speaker 2: make a little popcorn. Just sit back, relax and enjoy

674
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Speaker 2: the show. I think I'm about to do the popcorn thing, Ephraim.

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Speaker 2: would like to now kick my feet up and I

681
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: will eat popcorn, and I would like to listen to

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Speaker 2: what you have to say about Darvinham.

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Speaker 1: Now, look, it really sounded like you kicked your feet up.

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00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: I did, speaking from what I've seen, all right. The

685
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: one thing I've always said about coaches is if you

686
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: lose the locker room, you lose the team. And just off,

687
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: if you lose your superstar, you lose your job. And

688
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: me sitting where I sit when I go to the

689
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: Laker games and I'm in the like it literally feels

690
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: like I'm in the game. Like at any moment, they

691
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: can look down and be like, eat from you in

692
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: we need some rebounds or something like that. That's how

693
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm a real fan, like I'm in it.

694
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm not in there people watching my phone out to look,

695
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: you know, seeing who's in the crowd. I don't care,

696
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Speaker 1: And I don't go to the game with people like that,

697
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: Like I don't go to the game with people who

698
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: care more about what's happening in the stands or who's

699
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: watching the game then people I go with diehard Laker fans.

700
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: First of all, the tickets got way too much money

701
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: just be just goofing around out there. So so, you know,

702
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: shout out to Linda Rambus and Genie Buss. Yes. And

703
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: so the lack of adjustments is the thing that that

704
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: really gets me. It bothers me because I know games,

705
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: especially close games, could be won by adjustments. I've been

706
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: part of that. I've seen it. I've been on the

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00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: team where we didn't make adjustments and the other team

708
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: did and vice versa. So when I'm watching something and

709
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: I'm like Wow, if they just did this or that,

710
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: this completely a completely different series. And then so just

711
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: watching Darvin Ham and it's as simple as challenging the call.

712
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: It's as simple as what's the right rotation in terms

713
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: of people playing the combination on the floor, pushing guys

714
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Speaker 1: to play even though they may I don't know what

715
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Speaker 1: the whole injury situation was. I don't want to get

716
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: to in to the weeds with it at all, and

717
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to say too much, but I had

718
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Speaker 1: it on good authority that people who weren't playing could

719
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Speaker 1: have been playing interesting. Just going to leave it at that. Well,

720
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Speaker 1: and you're putting that on Darvin. What I'm saying is

721
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Speaker 1: as a coach, right, I've had a coach come to me.

722
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Speaker 1: I've had a coach come to me and be like, hey,

723
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Speaker 1: look man, let me talk to you for a second. Nobody's around,

724
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: it's just us. This doesn't work without you, doesn't work

725
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: without you, and in order for us to get to

726
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Speaker 1: where we need to go, we need you. That's a

727
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Speaker 1: real conversation, Okay, and it happens all the time. But

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Speaker 1: if you respect a coach, when you're having these types

729
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: of conversation, they hit different. Now, I'm not advocating for

730
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Speaker 1: anyone to go out and hurt themselves or do anything

731
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Speaker 1: like that, but like I said, I had it on

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Speaker 1: good authority. There's some guys could have played when they

733
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: weren't well, and to me, that reads as, oh, you

734
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: don't have the pulse of your team. There's a disconnect

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Speaker 1: when you have the clipboard and you're trying to draw

736
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Speaker 1: up a play and it looked like you about to

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Speaker 1: have a you're about to pass out. It's those little

738
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: things like that you look at look at the good

739
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: coaches in the league and watch them in the huddle

740
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: during a timeout, watch the energy around it, watch the

741
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Speaker 1: attention that's being right, like, just just pay it. If

742
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: you just pay attention, you can see. And for two

743
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: years it was very laissez fair, very uh and yelle.

744
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: You made it to the playoffs twice, both in the

745
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Speaker 1: and and the you know the play in and made

746
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Speaker 1: it all the way to the to the Western Conference

747
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: final last year. But you gotta be able to adjust.

748
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to go in at halftime and

749
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: go in after game one and make adjustments that turn

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Speaker 1: into wins. That's a key, I'm telling you. That is paramount.

751
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: You look at Michael Jordan, you look at Kobe Bryant,

752
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: you look at some of the greatest players ever, Shaquille O'Neill.

753
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: You look at the types of coaches that they had

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Speaker 1: to help them get to the you know, to the

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Speaker 1: promised land. Right. I don't know any who just fell

756
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Speaker 1: into it, who just happened to into it. It starts there, right,

757
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: because once you get to the dog days and the

758
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: ball down of a series, adjustments are everything. It's just

759
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: not on talent and if you're if you're not making

760
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: the right adjustments, you will be exposed. That's this is

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Speaker 1: real and and he was exposed time and time again.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue any of the points that

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Speaker 1: you just made. I'm going to bring.

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Speaker 2: Up a question though, because a lot of that doesn't

765
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Speaker 2: necessarily fit with Lebron James, Like when you talk about

766
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Speaker 2: looking at who Jordan had and look who Kobe had.

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Speaker 2: Lebron James, assuming he plays next year, will be playing.

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Speaker 1: For his eighth coach.

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Speaker 2: Story came out today that he once upon a time

770
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Speaker 2: wanted Eric spolsterra fired. I'd argue that Eric Spolster is

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Speaker 2: the best coach in the league, right now that's why

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to. I would I would argue, well,

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Speaker 2: that's an interesting comment.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean. Well, that's why pat Riley was

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Speaker 1: like making out here, Oh I see, do you see

776
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying that with the respect level from pat Riley, yes,

777
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, go back down there and work

778
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Speaker 1: on your free throws. Don't don't comie with that foolishness.

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Speaker 1: He's one of one.

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Speaker 2: He's one of one in the history of the NBA

781
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: who has been able to look at Lebron James and go, man, please,

782
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 2: that's never happened anywhere else. And so I do think

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Speaker 2: what you're saying has merit combined with you have to

784
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: if you're Lebron James, at least answer some questions, which

785
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: he never will because you can always hide behind I'm

786
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: not the GM. I didn't hire this person. It's like, man,

787
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: please be real with me right now. You have been

788
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: in control from top to bottom of just about every

789
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Speaker 2: team you have ever played for in the history of

790
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: your life. The history of your life. You wrote something

791
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: for the Player's Tribune and we knew Andrew Wiggins was

792
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: going to get traded for Kevin Love and the draft

793
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: was still weeks away. You can't tell me that you're

794
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: not in control. So if you're in control and changes

795
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: keep happening and coaches keep failing, at what, at what

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00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: point do we go wait a minute here, like, what

797
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: in this cycle is continually leading to this number one

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00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: and number two when it goes bad?

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Speaker 1: Why does the handpicked.

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Speaker 2: Person always have to have all of the accountability right?

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, the Lakers organization start moving

802
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: away from the demands of Lebron James when they want

803
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Speaker 1: it last. The year before last, they wanted them to

804
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: trade Russell Westbrook and Rob Polinka and Jennie Buss was like, nope,

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Speaker 1: you wanted Russ, y'all figure it out. You wanted him,

806
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: you got him, y'all figure it out. And it was

807
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: a mess. It was a mess. It was a hot mess.

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00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: But they were like no, And that's why they checked out,

809
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, after the All Star break, after the trade

810
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: deadline that year, because he didn't get his way. And

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Speaker 1: so I think the notion now of I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was a Lebron thing all the way of Darvinham.

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Speaker 1: Like if you're just watching the game, like I told you,

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Speaker 1: I think last week I told you. I was at

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Speaker 1: the game that thursday they played here, Yes, and my

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Speaker 1: nine year old sent me a text through my wife.

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Speaker 1: I remember an astute breakdown of what was happening in

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Speaker 1: the game. A nine year old boy, yes, who loves basketball,

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Speaker 1: sent a text referring to the lineup that was on

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Speaker 1: the court in Austin Reeves guarding Michael Porter Junior. He said,

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Speaker 1: why does Darvin Ham have three guards in a game

822
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Speaker 1: playing small ball in Austin Reeves guarding Michael Porter Junior.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna work. A nine year old boy said that,

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Speaker 1: and he was spot on with that assessment. So for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm there's been two years of things like that though,

826
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Speaker 1: no doubt. And that's the part of coaching that I'm talking.

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Speaker 2: About, right, But again, who hired Darvin Ham?

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Speaker 1: Who did? How did did Lebron? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Lebron was okay with Darvin Ham, but I don't. I

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Speaker 1: never thought, wow, boy, listen, listen, I never thought, len,

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Speaker 1: do you know who Lebron wanted? Two before Darving Ham?

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Speaker 1: He wonted ty Loop and the Lakers you know, tried

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00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: to low ball them with the with the contract in

834
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Speaker 1: the years and then they had Frank Vogel, like, I

835
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Speaker 1: don't know if Lebron James was running up to upstairs like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you gotta hire Darvin Ham. I never felt that connection

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Speaker 1: between them. Ever, he had to, he had to at

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00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: least give it a check mark. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: And that's all. And this is but this is what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. When that Westbrook thing happened, they start steering

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Speaker 1: away from GM Lebron like theirs they were. They decided

842
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: they were going to start making decisions based on whatever metrics,

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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: whatever they decided they were going to do. Man, sounds

844
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Speaker 1: to me like your criticism then is not of Darvin Ham. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was a good coach. Like I

846
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Speaker 1: didn't think Mike Brown was a good coach when he

847
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Speaker 1: was there. I don't think that's that's all fine, right,

848
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Speaker 1: Like I So my criticism was the not the lack

849
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Speaker 1: of adjustments, the lack of lineup all of those things,

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Speaker 1: the lineups, all of the things that coaches should have

851
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Speaker 1: a handle on, right, whether people are hurt or not hurt,

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Speaker 1: we you have to make adjustments in the playoff, Well

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Speaker 1: are you don't? You you you don't win?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this is a classic repetitive question that comes

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Speaker 2: in sports.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 2: When you get something like that, then who's at fault?

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00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: Is it the person who's doing the poor job or

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Speaker 2: is it the person who put them there?

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Speaker 1: Both? Okay, bo, I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's what what I'm hearing when I listened to you

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Speaker 2: is a criticism of the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Oh not Darvin Ham big time. Well no, no, I'm

864
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Speaker 1: criticizing him as well, because of course you look at

865
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: it through the standpoint of Okay, if we bring Darvin

866
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Speaker 1: back for the next two years of his contract, what changes?

867
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Speaker 1: What changes? Yeah? Absolutely nothing? So then everyone gets older.

868
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: That's it, right, So the definition of insanity right now,

869
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: you're now you feel insane sitting through another year of

870
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: getting into the play in and making what what's what's

871
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: going to change? Well, definition of insanity. Let's talk about

872
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: that coming.

873
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: Up next, because you could you could argue what you're saying,

874
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: or we could also ask what's the definition of insanity

875
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: when the big name teams and all of their thirty

876
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: five plus year old stars keep thinking that that's.

877
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: Gonna be good enough.

878
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's it from Salam I'm Mark Willard, these arethetire rack

880
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. In eight minutes, Steve de Seger drops bars.

881
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: We will we will not be late. Can't wait, can't wait?

882
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: All right, I'm just trying to figure, like, understand, I

883
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: disagree with none of what you're saying.

884
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: None of it.

885
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: We were talking about Darvin Ham, the Los Ange List Lakers.

886
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: I just think that this is layered, that's all. I'm

887
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: not here to argue if Darvin Ham is a good

888
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: coach or not. You you have seen infinitely more Laker

889
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: basketball up close than I have the last couple of years.

890
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: You want him out, they want him out. He's out. Okay,

891
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: I can wrap my head around that. I would just

892
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: like to know about the other parts. I'd like to

893
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: know about an organization that has changed coaches, like Coffee

894
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: Filters since Phil Jackson. Fine these days, Yeah, it is

895
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 2: some places. I root for a team where a guy's

896
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: going on over a decade now.

897
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: So I love that. That is amazing. And he's not

898
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: the only one.

899
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: We mentioned Spolstra, Like, there's pop that can go around.

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00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: I understand that it's rare. I mean, the Milwaukee Bucks

901
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: fired a guy who was thirty three and thirteen and

902
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: they're the Milwaukee Bucks.

903
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: Let's not hold the Lakers to the Buck standard for

904
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: crying out loud to the Lakers, you're right, the Lakers.

905
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it means something.

906
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: It means something, So that should not be a revolving door.

907
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: It should not be a revolving door. And their best

908
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: player is about to turn forty years old, can't seem

909
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: to get himself out of the playing tournament on an

910
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: annual basis, at least as far as the initial landing spot,

911
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: and obviously has a say like no other in terms

912
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Speaker 2: of how this is all put together. And as you

913
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: just mentioned, it's possible that the Lakers as a franchise

914
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: went rogue from that idea at certain times over the

915
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Speaker 2: last few years. The point is you can criticize Darvin Ham.

916
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Speaker 2: I'd like to add some people to the list.

917
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Speaker 1: I'm not excluding blame from the players. I think laziness

918
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: on the part of Lebron James on the defensive end

919
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: and half court defense teams exposed that. That's why you

920
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: had players like the Lakers tried to implement a built

921
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: in rotating system, right, so whatever quadrant Lebron was on

922
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: the court, and so if he was if you're facing

923
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: the basket. He was down playing defense on the baseline

924
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: on the right side. If his man went up the

925
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: screen or went through, he would just pass off that defender,

926
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Speaker 1: so he didn't have to leave the quadrant even though

927
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: they were in man to man. So it was like

928
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: a man and man with one person in a zone. Right.

929
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: But what happens is when teams you play the same

930
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: team over and over again, and you get to Game

931
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Speaker 1: three and in the playoffs against the different Nuggets and

932
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: Lebron James man is just dunking the basketball left and right,

933
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Speaker 1: running the baseline. That's because they've watched and they understand

934
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: his tendencies of falling asleep defensively. Now, what do you

935
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: have to do as a team to either You got

936
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: to put yourself in a true zone. Are you know?

937
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: You got to take him off the baseline and move

938
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Speaker 1: him somewhere. But the onus is on him. You can't

939
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: fall asleep, and Lebron James knows this. Lebron James is

940
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: fifty years old in terms of athlete years, thirty nine

941
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: in real life. But you know, with the amount of

942
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: miles on his body, I don't think any other athlete

943
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: in the history of you know, athletics has more minutes

944
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: on their body than he does. And so of course

945
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: we get it. But that's a problem. And if that

946
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: problem isn't pointed out and fixed, it will be taking

947
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: advantage of I mean, it was just just watching it.

948
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: You just see things over and over and over again,

949
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: the turnovers, right, just throwing the ball to absolutely no

950
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: one all the time was a huge problem of mind

951
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: not correcting that. That's not on Darvinham. That's that's not

952
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: his fault, right, Aaron Gordon was, I mean, it was crazy.

953
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: They made him look like Dominique Wilkins and and and

954
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: I think so it's a combination of lack of trust

955
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: from the head coach and a real attention to detail

956
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: and and and in most cases a lack of effort

957
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: on you know, the guys who are leading us, the

958
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: guys who we are supposed to be leading, and the

959
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: and the younger guys are following. It just was a

960
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: bad combination. And if Darvinham won't stand up to Lebron

961
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: James and say, hey man, stop getting beat baseline, to

962
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: stop throwing the ball away. If you don't have that

963
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: type of respect or rapport with your superstar, Then who

964
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: can you talk to? Who can you talk to if

965
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: I can't all the time out and be like, hey, hey, yo, man,

966
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. But if you take

967
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: your eye off the off off the man in the

968
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: corner one more time, then we got a problem. And

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01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: that's tough. That's a tough thing to somebody of Lebron's caliber.

970
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: That's a tough thing to have to do. But I'd

971
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: rather be fired doing that than doing nothing understood understood.

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Speaker 2: However, my only rebuttal, which is sort of coming from

973
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Speaker 2: a different angle, is to ask couldn't Darvin Ham respond

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01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: by saying, so, A, you want me to talk to

975
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Speaker 2: a guy who can't be talked to, and B you

976
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: want me to compete in this Western Conference when my

977
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: star is twice the age of the other stars who

978
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: are all sitting up there with home court advantage. Is

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01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: that realistic? Is that realistic? Or is it just time

980
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: to shrug your shoulders and be like, dude, this conference

981
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: belongs to yo kitchen aunt.

982
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: Now, well it does, but you still got to be competitive.

983
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: And being competitive, you make adjustments, you take you extend

984
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: the series. Whether you can beat them or not, you

985
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: extend the series. You don't get just walked through. That's

986
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: the problem. Like, that's that's unacceptable. No, I mean, look,

987
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: OHT know that this is gonna sound silly. That's about

988
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: as close of a five game series as I've ever seen. Well,

989
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: that's how it was last year, the sweeps, right, they

990
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: just came down in the last three minutes of the game. Yeah,

991
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 1: I mean, but if you don't make the property, that's

992
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: when you make the adjust That's how you win the game.

993
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: That's how you win the game. Understood.

994
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not here to make excuses by any strategy.

995
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: So I am here to hand the baton to Steve

996
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: de Sega. You promise we wouldn't be late. We are

997
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: not going to be late.

998
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: We are Steve. Take it away.

999
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 6: NASCAR's at Kansas on FS one and finishing up there

1000
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 6: in a caution with four laps to go. Here late

1001
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 6: in the race, Kyle Busch was running in the top

1002
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 6: five and has spun out. When they resume, it's looking

1003
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 6: like brag Kaslowski will have the lead over Kyle Larson.

1004
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 6: And this is a night race because of a three

1005
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 6: hour weather delay at the start. Again, four laps to

1006
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 6: go on FS one in the NHL Playoffs at Game

1007
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 6: seven tonight to end the first round at one seed

1008
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 6: in the West. Dallas Stars end of two periods tied

1009
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 6: with Vegas. One one winner plays Colorado in the second round.

1010
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 6: There was a second round series opener in New York

1011
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 6: today Rangers four to three over Carolina. Tomorrow night, Boston's

1012
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 6: at Florida to start a second rounder. In the NBA Playoffs,

1013
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 6: first round Game seven win for Cleveland in a comeback

1014
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 6: at home, eliminating Orlando one to six to ninety four.

1015
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 6: Donovan Mitchell thirty nine points. The Calves trailed by eighteen

1016
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 6: in the first half. Apparently Cleveland's comeback in the play

1017
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 6: by play era that is listing not just final stats

1018
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 6: of points and rebounds and assists, but actually listing each

1019
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 6: play as.

1020
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 5: The game goes along.

1021
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 6: Rebound by this guy, assists by that guy, so that

1022
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 6: goes back about twenty five years. This comeback would be

1023
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 6: the largest in a Game seven since the league started

1024
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 6: tracking play by play like that. The Calves will open

1025
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 6: the second round at number one Boston on Tuesday. As

1026
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 6: for NFL news, it was running back Duke Johnson who

1027
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 6: officially retired today and former Bears quarterback Bob Avellini died

1028
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 6: of cancer at the age of seventy. In the MLB

1029
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 6: Sunday Nighter, the Fills are holding on to a lead

1030
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 6: in the top of the eighth inning, five to three

1031
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 6: over the San Francisco Giants and early three run homer

1032
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 6: for Bryce Harper. J t Railmo, who has three hits

1033
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 6: in this game. At rail Muto out there, but shortstop

1034
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 6: Trey Turner is not now as if Yesterday's out at

1035
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 6: least six weeks with a strain hamstring. The Dodgers beat

1036
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 6: the Atlanta Braves again five to one, show Heyo Tani

1037
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 6: with two more home runs. Arizona an eleven to four

1038
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 6: winner against San Diego. The Baltimore Orioles won their fourth

1039
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 6: straight eleven to one at Cincinnati. There's still a game

1040
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 6: over the Yankees in the Al East. Yankees won five

1041
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 6: to two against Detroit. Ten inning wins for both Tampa

1042
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 6: Bay and Texas. Seattle won five to four at Houston Brooks.

1043
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 6: Koepka took the Live Golf event in Singapore. Koepka is

1044
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 6: the seventh different winner in the seventh events this season.

1045
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 5: He became the.

1046
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 6: First player to win four career live golf events. John Rahm,

1047
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 6: new to this tour, has yet to win there, but

1048
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 6: he did tie for tenths today, so he's the only

1049
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 6: player this year to have finished in the top ten

1050
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 6: in all seven of their events. The next Live tournament

1051
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 6: just over a month away in Houston. And what does

1052
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 6: Koepka earn for taking this event today?

1053
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: There we go for starters.

1054
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Speaker 6: He earns no ranking points because Live has fifty four

1055
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 6: whole events, but all Live Golf winners get four million

1056
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 6: dollars for the three days of golf. A tie for

1057
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 6: second today got over one point eight million dollars, plus

1058
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 6: any team earnings you get for the weekend one point

1059
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 6: eight million. The PGA Tour winner did not get winner,

1060
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 6: I said, did not get one point eight million today.

1061
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's find a scam at this point.

1062
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 6: In Texas, the winner was Canadian Taylor Pendrith. Top prize

1063
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 6: one point seven to one million dollars, and while second

1064
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 6: place did get about a million dollars, I much mention

1065
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 6: the guy who finished second literally one shot back. Ben

1066
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 6: Coles bogie the final hole, missing a six foot putt.

1067
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 6: He was the only player to bogie the eighteenth.

1068
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 5: Hole all day.

1069
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 6: He is still still winless on tour in sixty eight.

1070
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 6: Sure it's ouch, is right. So let's compare the two tours. Finally,

1071
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 6: tie for twentieth finish the PGA event one hundred twelve

1072
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 6: thousand dollars for live golf one hundred twenty two thousand dollars,

1073
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 6: not for a tie for twentieth, for a tie for

1074
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 6: forty seventh place, and there's no cut. It's just three

1075
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 6: rounds of golf. Everybody plays on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, I.

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Speaker 2: Think my favorite statement that you just made in all

1078
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: of that, Steve, was the next live event, which is

1079
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: next month.

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01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: Yes, it's May fifth. Well, you gotta have time to

1081
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: spend the money.

1082
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: It's May fifth, you said, the next event is next month.

1083
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's fun.

1084
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: I've now grown to like live golf solely for Steve

1085
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: di Sego's up there.

1086
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: I love it.

1087
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: Outside of that, I hate this stupid thing, but it's

1088
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: fun because at either six thirty or seven thirty every

1089
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 2: Sunday I get to laugh.

1090
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 5: But how can you blame you?

1091
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 6: Bubba Watson, for example, tie for forty fifth, going nowhere

1092
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 6: and another six figure exchange for three days.

1093
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: No I can see, and this is one thing that

1094
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: has been sort of a needle to thread. I can

1095
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: both hate that the thing exists and not enjoy, not

1096
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: even consider watching any of it, but also not blame

1097
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: the players for doing it.

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't.

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01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: I don't, and I think every I think just about

1100
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: everybody who does the dirty money argument. It is rather

1101
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: disingenuous because I can promise you that everybody who said

1102
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: it has no idea where their salary is coming from.

1103
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's kind of how I look at it,

1104
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Good like, brother, you got

1105
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: paid by the Houston Texans, right right, yeah, yeah, you

1106
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: feel good about everybody above you.

1107
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: Thank you. You don't need to say anymore, you don't need.

1108
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 1: The laugh is perfect. The laugh is perfect.

1109
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 2: So anyway, good stuff, Steve, thank you. We'll talk to

1110
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 2: you in an hour. We're live in the tireq dot

1111
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: com studios. I mean, I like, I do, I feel

1112
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 2: that way right now. And both of these organizations, and

1113
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 2: we talk about them so much, the Lake and the Warriors,

1114
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: they're kind of stuck. Like these fan bases expect the

1115
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: world all the.

1116
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: Time, championships Bay with good.

1117
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 2: Reason, with good reason, like a bar has been set

1118
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: why would they lower it? They shouldn't and the players

1119
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: who lead these two franchises are literally the two players

1120
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: who have driven NBA ratings for a decade. However, let's

1121
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: also be real, man, they can't compete with jokichinant anymore.

1122
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: They can't do it by themselves. They need to have

1123
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: unbelievable amounts of stuff around them, because actually they both

1124
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: do have some stuff around them, and it's still clearly

1125
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: not enough. No, it's not, you know, so we can

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: fire the coach and believe me. Maybe I don't even

1127
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: know if you like know this. There are plenty of

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01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: Warrior fans here in the Bay who are livid with

1129
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr rotations this year, and I kind of likened

1130
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: that earlier in the year to being like, okay, so

1131
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 2: let's say your house is on fire and you go

1132
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 2: outside and realize you have a flat tire. Would you

1133
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: immediately call the tow truck? What would you call the

1134
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: fire department? Because I think if you want to scream

1135
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: about Darvin Ham and Steve Kerr, I'm not saying that

1136
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: tire doesn't need to be replaced. I might argue it's

1137
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: not your biggest problem. I might argue that.

1138
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be an argument, but nevertheless, you expect more.

1139
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: You expect more from players, and you expect more from coaches.

1140
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: Steve Carr has a history of winning. Darvin m doesn't.

1141
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: There's the difference. Also true, Yeah, no, no, no doubt.

1142
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: And Darvin Ham we all knew, we knew, We knew

1143
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: when we sat here last week that Darvin Hamp He's

1144
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: not gonna be the coach.

1145
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: After the game, Tarmac do it?

1146
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, we knew that, Phil, and we also Phil Handy,

1147
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: could you take over?

1148
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: Darvin won't be making it in uh to give.

1149
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: These and and we knew darn well that Steve Kerr

1150
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: was not and should not be facing questions about his

1151
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:37,839
Speaker 2: his job status.

1152
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: Well, no, but he probably is going to retire. So

1153
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: there's that. Well he signed a two year extension. Well

1154
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: you know what the extensions are.

1155
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: Like, Well, no, I can tell you when Steve's probably

1156
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: gonna walk away at the same time number thirty.

1157
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: Does and and and that is the fair thing. You

1158
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: could play for five more years, you could he could

1159
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: about to be coaching for five more yatagraph.

1160
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 2: Well put it this way, their contracts are now aligned

1161
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 2: and if they would like to continue to do it together.

1162
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 2: In two more years, they will and if they don't,

1163
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 2: they won't. And they're going to have that option. But

1164
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: that's the thing the Lakers have already. I mean, look

1165
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: at the reports that we've gotten from both teams since

1166
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: the end of the season. The Lakers are open to

1167
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: drafting Brownie James and the Warriors are hell bent on

1168
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 2: maximizing the remaining contractual years of Steph Curry. Both franchises

1169
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 2: are fully dedicated to people who are not the lead

1170
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: NBA ones anymore.

1171
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: That's a tough spot. Tough spot. It is. Look at

1172
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: our teams, man, goodness.

1173
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 2: Gracious, but those playing games are fun, man, those are dramatic.

1174
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 2: Actually a little bit more to say about teams like

1175
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: the Wolves, like the Thunder and also a former Laker

1176
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 2: who I would like to ask you about your opinion

1177
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: on whether another NBA team should trade for him or not.

1178
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: All of that is around the corner. Mark Willardy from

1179
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: Salam Fox Sports Radio, Okay, Tireck dot Com Studios. That's

1180
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 2: it from Salama, Mark Willard. We get into this a

1181
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: little bit. How many times in your careerge you go

1182
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: to the playoffs? Let me see, Oh yeah, you made

1183
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: a noise. Man, Wow, hold on, let me make it

1184
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:14,839
Speaker 2: this right, h what three times?

1185
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: Okay? Why are you making noises? Because I never really

1186
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: I never rethought about that. Okay, were you thinking it

1187
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: was more? I really was to tell you the truth,

1188
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: what was it? Was it? Thirteen years? Thirteen years, thirteen

1189
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: years and postseason three times? Yes? Yeah, let's see.

1190
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: Uh like I'm actually on your like football reference page

1191
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: right now.

1192
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: It's trying to figure it out. This year in Atlanta,

1193
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: my second year in Denver, yeah, oh three, and my

1194
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 1: second year in Jacksonville in Jacksonville, oh five. You're right.

1195
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: So, so you've played in five playoff games because the

1196
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: first year in Atlanta you won two, and then you

1197
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: went to the super Bowl. And then with Denver you

1198
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,560
Speaker 2: lost to the Colts. With the yeah, and with the

1199
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: Jags you lost to the Patriots. Right, a whole lot

1200
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 2: of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady coming at you, manreak.

1201
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: You were down.

1202
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: You lost to the Patriots twenty eight to three. That's

1203
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 2: normally a good spot to be. But anyway, Okay, the

1204
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: reason I'm asking is is when those teams went to

1205
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: the playoffs, how postseason experienced were they the teams a

1206
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: win agains the teams you played four how much playoff experience?

1207
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: Not very much on any of the Well the Denver, yes,

1208
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: but not Jacksonville, not okay recently, and definitely not Atlanta.

1209
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 2: Definitely not Atlanta. And you rolled all the way to

1210
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Yep, you rolled all the way to

1211
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. I just wonder because this is one

1212
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 2: of those things, and there are plenty of them in

1213
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: sports where we habitually make the same sort of like

1214
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 2: error in our thinking every year, and we'll be back

1215
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 2: to do it again next year. Like if you ask

1216
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: someone right now, well, who's going to win the divisions

1217
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: in the NFC this year? Well, someone will go, well,

1218
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: the Niners, the Falcons, the Lions, and the Eagles. Of course,

1219
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: maybe the Cowboys. But like that's it. And I'm like, well,

1220
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 2: but it's never the way it works.

1221
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: You do.

1222
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: You don't just come back and do it again just

1223
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: because they're the favorites. And same thing here. We start

1224
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: a playoffs run and we go, well, the teams who

1225
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:58,919
Speaker 2: haven't been here before are vulnerable, and I'm now looking

1226
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:04,520
Speaker 2: the Osey Thunder four and oh and the Minnesota Timberwolves

1227
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: five and oh. Neither one of them, and you know this,

1228
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: You and I are guilty of it. Two we sat

1229
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: there in that playing tournament. We're like, hey, you come

1230
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 2: out of here and you get a Wolves or a Thunder.

1231
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 2: They've never been there before and that pressure and they're

1232
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 2: gonna wilt. And I understand, maybe this is a little

1233
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: bit of a matchup reliant take. Maybe the Thunder got

1234
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: the Pelicans, But whatever, the point is, we were told

1235
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: that these teams.

1236
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: Were gonna be wobbly upon arrival. They're not.

1237
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: The Wolves especially, they look fantastic. They look like they're

1238
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: having no trouble whatsoever. I feel like we really overrate

1239
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 2: the whole, like, well, they've been here before type of

1240
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 2: a thing.

1241
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: I never I thought the Timberwolves were too talented to

1242
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: be wobbly. When you look at their team, the really

1243
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: only young piece is Aunt Edwards. Yeah, everybody else when

1244
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: you look at you know, Karl Anthony Towns, and you

1245
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: look at Rudy Gobert, who was you know, was a

1246
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 1: constant in the Western Conference playoffs with the Utah Jazz,

1247
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: uh and and uh Donovan Mitchell, and so when you

1248
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: when you look at their team, at Edwards, the star

1249
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 1: is the only one really you're looking at like, like,

1250
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: look at Mike Conley, right, the the the playoff uh

1251
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: experience that he's had. So for them, I never thought that, oh,

1252
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: they may be in over their head because the surrounding

1253
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: and supporting cast were seasoned. Now when you look at Okac,

1254
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I mean they're all kids, you know,

1255
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: extremely talented, right, but they're all kids, like they're you know,

1256
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: second or third best players is a rookie who's you know,

1257
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: a second year rookie who missed all of last year,

1258
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: and so you will be like, Okay, they'll get there'll

1259
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: be a time where, you know, playoff experience may come

1260
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: into place. But they're so young and athletic that I

1261
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: think now that's you know, superseding the wha. They're not

1262
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: old enough to know what's going on, you know, their leadership.

1263
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, let's get into this a

1264
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: little bit coming up next. We're all okay, steps out,

1265
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 2: Lebron's out, Kd's out. Who are the next people? There's

1266
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: obviously yo kitchen? Whatnot is Anthony Edwards?

1267
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: The guy?

1268
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: Is that where we're heading. We'll get into that coming

1269
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: up next. Fox Sports Radio.

1270
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in the look.

1271
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about when your eyes catch somebody

1272
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: interesting across the bar from afar, although there's nothing wrong

1273
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: with that, But I'm a big believer in the look.

1274
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 2: When a team when a player when they've got that look.

1275
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: And the NBA, there's no way around this is in.

1276
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: A transition, and so everyone's on a search for that

1277
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 2: next player. That player can sort of be or needs

1278
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: to be a couple of different things, because we could

1279
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,719
Speaker 2: argue that Nikola Jokic is already that player, but Nicola

1280
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 2: Jokic is not that kind of player. You can be

1281
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: the best player in the world, but in the NBA

1282
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 2: entertainment world, you've also got to sparkle and shine and

1283
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 2: have an ability to play basketball like a wing or

1284
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 2: somebody who we are going to fall in love with.

1285
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 2: Have we finally found that person? We're broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: talked about it a lot throughout the calendar year of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. I still find Lebron James, Steph Curry,

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Speaker 2: and Kevin Durant very watchable and very effective basketball players. However,

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Speaker 2: they're not quite the same. They don't affect winning quite

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Speaker 2: the same. And I'm wondering if before our eyes we

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Speaker 2: haven't found that next person. And it does have to

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Speaker 2: be somebody who's not just very good and affects winning,

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Speaker 2: but somebody who kids want to emulate on the court

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Speaker 2: or gives us those wow moments. Jokic is not that

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Speaker 2: he's amazing and he's the best player in the world,

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Speaker 2: but he does not posterize people. That's just that's not

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Speaker 2: basketball in his style. Is Anthony Edwards the guy.

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Speaker 1: I like Anthony Edwards because he's explosive. I think if

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Speaker 1: they make a real run, they finish off Denver, they

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Speaker 1: get to the finals, and they win this thing, and

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Speaker 1: he keeps playing like he keeps dropping forty. This is

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Speaker 1: how you build the lore down. This is like they'll

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Speaker 1: have more prime time games next year and people will

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Speaker 1: taking notice. And for those who don't understand what I

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Speaker 1: mean by market size and small markets and bigger markets

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Speaker 1: lending to bolstering superstars. I was watching game seven of

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Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic and Cleveland Cavaliers today. Yes, And then

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Speaker 1: I was watching Orlando and I had realized, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't really know outside of a few players. I

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Speaker 1: was like, we don't get the chance to see a

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Speaker 1: lot of Orlando games.

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Speaker 7: Ah.

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Speaker 1: Correct, And even in the playoffs. Where did that series

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Speaker 1: primarily live? Do you know? That series came on on

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Speaker 1: NBA TV early early on NBA at the same time

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Speaker 1: T and T had their game, the Real Games on

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Speaker 1: So when I talk about market, this is what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. So they were going back and forth all

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Speaker 1: the way. Obviously that's the most compelling first round series

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Speaker 1: we've had. Well it's the longest. So obviously the games

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Speaker 1: were going back and forth back of the three three

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Speaker 1: you get to game seven, no one saw game really

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Speaker 1: until this one. And that's what I mean in terms

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Speaker 1: of market, in terms of viewership, like the networks, no,

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Speaker 1: they they know. So when I'm saying if Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 1: were in Golden State or New York or look, how

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Speaker 1: look how much we love Bronson, could you imagine if

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Speaker 1: you put Anthony Edwards on that team and Jalen Bronson,

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Speaker 1: uh in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I just still have a chicken of the egg question,

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Speaker 2: like you're you're certainly not wrong about the markets of Cleveland, Orlando.

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Speaker 2: But the added factor is what you first said, which

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Speaker 2: is that you can barely name anybody on either of

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Speaker 2: these teams. Donovan Mitchell was unbelievable today. Unwatched this one

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Speaker 2: earlier today. The second half of basketball that he put

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Speaker 2: out there, crazy was absolute top shelf stuff, just just

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Speaker 2: incredible because Bolo bno was he meant killing he.

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Speaker 1: Was killing it.

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Speaker 2: But outside of that, man like Orlando can't score, they

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Speaker 2: can't shoot, you know, Wagner was terrible, Like they cannot

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Speaker 2: shoot the basketball. And so that's what I mean by

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Speaker 2: chicken or the egg. Is it because you're in Orlando, Florida?

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Speaker 2: Or is it because you don't have any players we

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Speaker 2: really want to see? Like you know, coming up not

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Speaker 2: too long from now, we're gonna have Game two between

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Speaker 2: Minnesota and Denver. Not to say that those are tiny markets,

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Speaker 2: but they're not the sparkly ones either. I would imagine

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Speaker 2: the rating for that would be competitive because that game

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Speaker 2: right now has people we'd like.

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Speaker 1: To see, true, because there's nothing else on in terms

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Speaker 1: of what are we watching right now? All right, early baseball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: are the US the ufl are I mean the live

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Speaker 1: golf or BGA golf events watching all right, Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it's gonna pull a number. That's what this is when

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Speaker 1: the NBA pulls the numbers. But even with that the case,

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Speaker 1: I would love to know what the numbers were for

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Orlando series. It was on NBA TV that

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Speaker 1: every household doesn't have. I'm sure you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So it did mean stuff. It means something, uh in

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Speaker 1: terms of your market size and and and all of that.

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Speaker 1: And look, I think Anthony Edwards uh is the real deal.

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Speaker 1: I think he's amazing. Uh he's musty TV when when

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Speaker 1: he look he can do anything. And how he went

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Speaker 1: at KD. I think that opened up a lot of

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Speaker 1: people's eyes because it was all over the internet, Like

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Speaker 1: when you NKD was one of his heroes, right right,

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Speaker 1: and he went at him, called him old man and

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Speaker 1: all kinds of I mean, but that's you need that

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Speaker 1: type of energy. You need that type of in a

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Speaker 1: league where everybody's buddies and and hey fella, you need

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Speaker 1: people with that dog, get them that fire who you

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Speaker 1: know attacked the game with reckless abandonment. And that's what

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Speaker 1: you get when you have a Anthony Edwards and I

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Speaker 1: love that, and so I'm looking forward to this series.

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Speaker 1: I think their size is a problem for a team

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Speaker 1: like Denver, whose size was the problem for everybody else.

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Speaker 1: This is the one team that really remember Look, Kat

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Speaker 1: was matched up against Kevin Durant in the in their

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Speaker 1: first round series and they swept him. So him coming

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Speaker 1: out Garden, you know, Aaron Gordon or Michael Porter junior,

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Speaker 1: who's not Kevin Durant. That fits right into Minnesota's hands.

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Speaker 1: And so now and just having Rudy Goburr just hang

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Speaker 1: out in the paint, hang out in the paint, because

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Speaker 1: even when the joker goes up, you can switch with

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Speaker 1: Cat and just have Rudy there to take away the libs,

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Speaker 1: to take away you know, easy shots at the rim.

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Speaker 1: So I think they have a game plan. Now what

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Speaker 1: we're going to see is Mike Malone make adjustments. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna come out and we're gonna see what adjustments really

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Speaker 1: mean when it comes to coaching. And and that series

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Speaker 1: to me is extremely compelling. I can't wait and I

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Speaker 1: can't wait for the other you know, round two to start. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see what the Pacers look like.

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Speaker 1: And round two I believe who they play the Knicks

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Speaker 1: right next tomorrow night. That's gonna be amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's Pacers in next Tomorrow night followed by Wolves and Knights.

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Speaker 1: I mean that, that to me is man, remember them,

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Speaker 1: remember that matchup those days? And I hope we have

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Speaker 1: that type of energy.

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Speaker 2: Missing a couple of characters here, that's true, that's true, yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that fact. I love uh,

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Speaker 1: you know second round action teams are ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Uh and and it's gonna be fun. Like I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the Cleveland who is that? Who do they play? Boss?

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Speaker 1: Play boss? I don't know what that series is gonna

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Speaker 1: look like. If Porzingis is still out, I think that's

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Speaker 1: really gonna hurt the Celtics because he's a matchup nightmare.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see. It's it's fun. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: It's fun, it's interesting. Uh And this is the time

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Speaker 1: of year we wait for. If you're an NBA fan.

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Speaker 2: I have a hard time believing that the Cavaliers are

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Speaker 2: going to be competitive in that series. As you say

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Speaker 2: aboutis Jared Allen will see if he's back.

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Speaker 1: He's he's been missing time too.

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Speaker 2: But it sounds to me based on what you're saying

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Speaker 2: about that sort of like, Okay, they may not have

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Speaker 2: the selective experience, but there's plenty of individuals who do

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Speaker 2: you pointed to, how you know, just the thunder or babies.

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Speaker 2: So are you calling Mavericks right now? Are the Mavericks

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Speaker 2: taking the thunder down?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm calling Mavericks Mavericks, you know why? The thing

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Speaker 1: I noticed and if they do get hardaway back, I

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Speaker 1: wish they're missing him. But the thing I like about

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Speaker 1: them is early in the game, it's all Luca. And

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Speaker 1: the thing that Luca was running into in his playoff

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Speaker 1: career was he would gas out. He would gas out

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Speaker 1: late in games and latent series because he handles the

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Speaker 1: ball so much. What I saw from them in the

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Speaker 1: first round and during the year as they played is

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Speaker 1: now Luca will defer in the second half, they'll defer

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Speaker 1: to Kyrie and he will go bonkers. And so now

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter, Kyrie does the heavy lifting and

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Speaker 1: you have a fresher Luca in the fourth quarter. And

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Speaker 1: that's that's the Clippers. That's dangerous. Yeah. So I mean

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Speaker 1: it's and they got some young, energetic, you know, long

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Speaker 1: wing defenders. They jump out the gym this. I love

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Speaker 1: the energy. They They're up and down, they're going, They're pushing,

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Speaker 1: and I love to push to pace offenses.

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Speaker 2: I have one name in particular to throw at you,

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Speaker 2: and I want to know if you think he would

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Speaker 2: be an interesting trade target for teams that are looking

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Speaker 2: for a core piece this offseason. But we might as

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Speaker 2: well toss some extra names in. I'd like to think

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Speaker 2: about who's staying and who's going, because every time someone

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Speaker 2: falls out Bucks, Suns, Lakers, we got to immediately dive

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Speaker 2: into their star and find out if that person is

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Speaker 2: staying or going. And there are a lot of questions

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Speaker 2: out there. So we'll do that next shortly after the show.

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Speaker 2: doing that yet with it from Salam Mark Willard. It's

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio these athetie rag dot com studios with

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Speaker 2: it from Salama Mark Willard. I've been checked in on

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Speaker 2: this in a while, and I'd be curious to know

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on the evolution of the career of one of,

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Speaker 2: if not the main pieces that brought Anthony Davis to

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Brandon Ingram? I think I

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Speaker 1: think Brandon Ingram is an amazing talent who is talented.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: It means he's gonna he can come out and give

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Speaker 1: you twenty four points a game, you know, four or

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Speaker 1: five rebounds, a couple of sists, three to six assists

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Speaker 1: a game. That's talent. Is he a player that can

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Speaker 1: take you to the Promised Land? No, but I think

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Speaker 1: it'd be a good piece m hmm to take the

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Speaker 1: pressure off of a star. But I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: the star to carry a team to the playoffs or

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Speaker 1: deep end to make a deep playoff run. So I

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Speaker 1: think he's talented.

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Speaker 2: You think he's a classic two to Yes to he

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Speaker 2: no pressure on him?

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Speaker 1: He can just show up and play his game.

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01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 2: Yes, no pressure on him, meaning he won't show up

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs or he just.

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Speaker 1: Know not meaning to be the one. Like when it

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Speaker 1: comes down to it, it all goes to the one, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: what what is Kobe gonna do? What is Lebron gonna do?

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Speaker 1: What is kd gonna do? What is Steph gonna do?

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Speaker 1: What if? Right? Like when you look at Klay Thompson,

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Speaker 1: Klay Thompson was a two, It wasn't coming down to

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Speaker 1: stretch like it is Clay gonna save us? You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? So if you put it happened some nights,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, but that wasn't the expectation correct, right, Like

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Speaker 1: the way the weight of the franchise is not on right.

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01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 1: And that's what I mean by him being a two

1496
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 1: and being with someone who's in that role. That's I

1497
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: think that's where he excels because it's less pressure, like

1498
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 1: and all you got to do is just play.

1499
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 2: I mean, when you think about impact moves in the

1500
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:03,719
Speaker 2: offseason and you've already like laid it out the last

1501
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 2: few weeks with regard to certain stars and the minimum desire,

1502
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 2: if not need to get to the big markets, the

1503
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 2: flagship teams, that kind of thing. I do feel like

1504
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,600
Speaker 2: we've arrived at an off season, or it's not, but

1505
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 2: we're about to arrive at the off season, and there

1506
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 2: could be unprecedented movement. It almost feels like every team

1507
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 2: that's out is immediately thrown into this space, like if

1508
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 2: you didn't make the final eight, immediately your star could be,

1509
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 2: should be, might be on the move. And there are

1510
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 2: a lot of attractive landing spots. Laker fan, what's the addition,

1511
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 2: who's the player you want on the team next year?

1512
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: I would love of like a Donovan Mitchell.

1513
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 2: I was hoping that would be the one that you

1514
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 2: would say, I don't know how you get your hands.

1515
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't know it either, but that would, I'm glad,

1516
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 1: would be amazing. Yeah, and I agree with you. I'm

1517
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 1: glad you didn't say Trey Young. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1518
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: those are the names that I hear. Yeah, that's not

1519
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 1: what we want. We need a level of consistency that

1520
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: and and and no, he's just too small. I mean,

1521
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 1: we got d Lo, so what we what are we?

1522
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: What are we doing now? But what I'm saying is

1523
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: if we replace d Lo with with Trey Young, what

1524
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 1: have we done? One's left handed and the other one's right. Now,

1525
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:55,759
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, So from that standpoint, no is brandon

1526
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: Ingram on the Pelicans next year.

1527
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 2: I think that experiment might be over. Is Kevin Durant

1528
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 2: on the Suns next No? Oh no, he's not. Now

1529
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 2: that's an interesting statement based on the statements that Sons

1530
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 2: ownership and the front office have made this offseason. I

1531
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 2: don't take what they're saying at face value at all,

1532
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 2: but I'm interested in how firm you were with that answer.

1533
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: I I'm pretty sure Katie doesn't. He knows that's not

1534
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna work. And somebody there has a contract that you

1535
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: can't move, right.

1536
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 2: So that that would be Bradley Beal. Yeah, and you're

1537
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 2: not and don't want to move Devin. No, it's not

1538
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 2: going to happen. And you so I agree with you

1539
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 2: that they need to move somebody. Yes, they've gotta They've

1540
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 2: got to get some They cannot run this thing back.

1541
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 2: So well, that was one of my favorite press conferences

1542
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 2: of the year when James Jones literally launched into a

1543
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 2: whole thing about how we need to maximize Kevin Durant.

1544
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: No team has done it before.

1545
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can imagine how that landed here in

1546
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 2: the Bay Area, but okay, no team and by the way,

1547
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 2: he won an MVP in Oklahoma City, but anyway, no

1548
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 2: team has maximized Kevin Durant before and then went into like,

1549
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 2: how I mean, we thought this was really awesome, but

1550
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 2: it's not good enough for Kevin and he's the future

1551
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. So it was almost like, so what

1552
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 2: do we know. I was like, oh my god, this

1553
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 2: is a press conference where he's on the low key.

1554
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 2: He is openly begging. He is begging Kevin Durant to

1555
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 2: not be mad at the organization. I'm like, a that's

1556
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 2: a bad look. That's a bad look. That was not compliments,

1557
01:38:59,400 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 2: that was.

1558
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that to me that that's the one out

1559
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 1: of those three, that's the one that you know, it's

1560
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 1: it's it won't be there. And he's he's always shown

1561
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: the you know that he can be out at any moment,

1562
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 1: like I'm out.

1563
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 2: Is Paul George on the Clippers next year? I don't

1564
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:24,839
Speaker 2: think Paul George wants to be there anymore.

1565
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: I think he I mean they just re up to

1566
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: Kawhi yep, And I don't think Paul George is I

1567
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 1: know he loves being in LA But I don't think

1568
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: he wants to be tied to that anymore because it's

1569
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: the same thing every year. Clipper fans must be going

1570
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: crazy because they thought, again, this is the year. Like

1571
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: Monci Bilanos is a huge Clipper fan, and she's in

1572
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: here on and right before I get in. So every

1573
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: every week we have this conversation about the preseason season postseason,

1574
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 1: and it always ends the same way. And I've been

1575
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: on radio for a long time and have the Clippers

1576
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 1: been in the Western Conference Finals yet? That'd being oh.

1577
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: And so we're in a situation where it's like every

1578
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,639
Speaker 1: year the same thing. Now you re up with Kawhi

1579
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: will he be healthy? No is is can you depend

1580
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 1: on James Harden No? Right time and time again? And

1581
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 1: then Paul George is sitting there like bruh, like what

1582
01:40:55,360 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: is somebody gonna come help right consistently? Like we get

1583
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: help consistently from the third member of our team who

1584
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 1: shows up and shows out. I hope he's not leaving

1585
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: us because if he's, if he wants out, then we're

1586
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 1: in trouble. And that's one Stephen.

1587
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 7: Disegre no middle name name whatsoever, ce disagre as in

1588
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 7: conference finals that the Clippers were in when they lost

1589
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 7: to Phoenix three years.

1590
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 1: Ago, one time in fifty that is correct.

1591
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 6: Since they were the Buffalo Braves right before they moved

1592
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 6: to Southern California. Yeah, started as a franchise nineteen seven

1593
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 6: Slippers that became the LA Clippers.

1594
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 5: You know the what is it?

1595
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 6: The San Diego Clippers are returning next year, right Their

1596
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 6: minor league team is going to San Diego. There's some

1597
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 6: new arena in Oceanside they're building, and they're gonna have

1598
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 6: the old Clipper logo from.

1599
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 5: The Gene Shoe days back in the seventies.

1600
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 6: But yeah, the Major League Clippers, if I can call them, that,

1601
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 6: have only but once made the conference finals in all

1602
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 6: these decades. We'll get to NBA action in just a moment,

1603
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 6: but we do have a final from the NHL Playoffs.

1604
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 6: As one seed in the West, Dallas beat Vegas, eliminating

1605
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 6: the Golden Knights two to one in a game seven

1606
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 6: to end the first round. Dallas will host Colorado in

1607
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,759
Speaker 6: the second round starting Tuesday. The other series in the West,

1608
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 6: Edmonton versus Vancouver, starts on Wednesday. In the East, one

1609
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 6: seed Rangers beat two seed Carolina to open a second

1610
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 6: round series today four to three, with Game two in

1611
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 6: New York on Tuesday. The Rangers are five and oh

1612
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 6: so far this postseason. Tomorrow night Boston at Florida to

1613
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 6: begin a second rounder. Now to the NBA Playoffs. First Round,

1614
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 6: Game seven at Cleveland today went to the Calves in

1615
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 6: a comeback, eliminating Orlando oneh six to ninety four. The

1616
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 6: Calves open the second round at number one Boston on Tuesday.

1617
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:57,440
Speaker 6: Donovan Mitchell had thirty nine points today and nine rebounds

1618
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 6: and five assists and just one turnover. Second round in

1619
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 6: the Eastern Conference starts tomorrow with Indiana at New York.

1620
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 6: What a finish we had at NASCAR on FS one tonight.

1621
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 6: It turned out to be the closest finish in the

1622
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 6: history of NASCAR. As the guys looked at the replay

1623
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:16,440
Speaker 6: this evening.

1624
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's like our horse race. Fine knows.

1625
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 1: What a way to kick off the month of May

1626
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 1: for Kyle Larson.

1627
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 6: Larson the winner in this one, in fact, closest race

1628
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 6: in NASCAR history. At the end, it was a margin

1629
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 6: of point zero zero one seconds across the finish line.

1630
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 6: Frocks Kapko won the livegolf event in Singapore. Running back

1631
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 6: Duke Johnson officially retired. Former Bears quarterback Bob Avellini died

1632
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 6: of cancer at the age of seventy. In the United

1633
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 6: Football League, Michigan edged Darlington twenty eight twenty seven. There's

1634
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 6: a kicker in that league for Michigan who earlier this

1635
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 6: year at a sixty four yarder he made. He hit

1636
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 6: one from sixty today. In fact, Jake Bates went five

1637
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 6: for five on field goals, including the game winning forty

1638
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 6: two yarder to MLB action at Philadelphia tonight. The Phils

1639
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 6: won their fifth straight five to four over San Francisco.

1640
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 6: Dodgers beat Atlanta again five to one. Sho hey Otani

1641
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 6: with two home runs. He went four for four, and

1642
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 6: he has ten homers, now tied for the Major league lead.

1643
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 6: Arizona beat San Diego eleven to four. Boston was a

1644
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 6: nine to winner at Minnesota, ending the twins twelve game

1645
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 6: winning streak. Seattle homer late to beat Houston encloser Josh

1646
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 6: Hater five to four ten inning wins for Texas and

1647
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 6: Tampa Bay. In the Ray's home win, they beat the

1648
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 6: Mets in ten inning seven to six. Rays had seven

1649
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 6: stolen bases back to you.

1650
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 1: All right, very very good stuff, Steve appreciate that.

1651
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was reading the latest lyrics from Drake's latest

1652
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 2: disc track he dropped while we were on the air,

1653
01:44:55,680 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 2: The Heart Part six, a from and Yeah it's getting

1654
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 2: real up in here getting Yeah, it's getting real hip hop.

1655
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 4: You guys want a fun fact on the the Heart.

1656
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 1: Par six, yes, please please?

1657
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 4: All right, well Kendrick lyrics, but no, because Kendrick is notorally,

1658
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 4: notoriously known for dropping the Heart part one through five,

1659
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,640
Speaker 4: and usually he leads it up for like that's how

1660
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 4: you know he's gonna drop another album, So of course

1661
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 4: he you know, Drake did the Heart part six because

1662
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 4: that's what we're waiting on right now, and basically said

1663
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 4: a whole lot of very non radio appropriate y but yeah, basically,

1664
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:48,719
Speaker 4: you know, alluded to Drake's or not Drake Kendrick's child

1665
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 4: not actually being his, and being the child of the

1666
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 4: president of the record label that he was signed to.

1667
01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 4: So that's one of the things. It's yeah, yeah, it's

1668
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 4: very it's very it's terrible.

1669
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 2: My gosh, Like I mean, Kobe's in his grave being like, boy,

1670
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 2: these guys talk good Lord.

1671
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 4: Ali's are getting a new Kendrick single probably later today.

1672
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, when does it stop?

1673
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 2: And I don't know, never right, No one's going to

1674
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 2: just be like, okay, you could have the last word.

1675
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 4: The manager of Top Dog Entertainment, which is Kendrick's old

1676
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 4: album or old record label, said that now we know

1677
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 4: that Kendrick is king, he's going to prove it, so

1678
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 4: that probably means another single on the way.

1679
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:42,480
Speaker 1: Man. They know how to promote.

1680
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 2: You know what I would like both of them to do,

1681
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 2: and it's not kissing makeup. I would like both of

1682
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 2: them to get hired by Major League Baseball.

1683
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 1: That's what I would like.

1684
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 4: We could do it like hockey and they could just

1685
01:46:58,280 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 4: like punch each other for like.

1686
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,799
Speaker 2: What you could drop Yeah, you could drop drop the gloves,

1687
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,480
Speaker 2: you could do that. But yeah, I would like baseball

1688
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 2: to have one ounce of the self promotion abilities.

1689
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: Of Kendrick and Drake. That's what I would like. Good

1690
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 1: luck with that. I know a wish home.

1691
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'd settle for though, is just like

1692
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 2: a few hits, just some hits, just some hits, just.

1693
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 1: Hit the ball. I do think.

1694
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 2: Well, Show Hey is Show Hey the the elite of

1695
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 2: the elite are always going to be fine, but there

1696
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 2: aren't enough of them, right, And half of them are

1697
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 2: on the Dodgers anyway, so and the other half are

1698
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 2: on the Braves, and then the Orioles have all the

1699
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 2: guys who are.

1700
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: Going to be good, and that's like it.

1701
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think at a certain point because

1702
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 2: there's a lot of a lot of fans around the

1703
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 2: country who are frustrated with their teams because if you

1704
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 2: look at the stats, you're like, man, we can't hit,

1705
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 2: and then you're like, oh, but we're middle of the

1706
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 2: pack in the league.

1707
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 1: Like wait a minute, half the.

1708
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 2: Teams are worse than my team because my team can't hit.

1709
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,640
Speaker 2: And it's true, like league average is now in the

1710
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 2: two thirties. That's like average, meaning half the league is

1711
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 2: worse than that. And yeah, they're probably gonna have to

1712
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 2: lower the mound here pretty soon. And I know that

1713
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 2: people go, oh gosh, bailing them out, you know, Harmon

1714
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 2: killibrew never had. Well, listen the balls coming in now

1715
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 2: at one hundred and two miles an hour.

1716
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: What is it you would like human beings to be

1717
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 1: able to do? Swing early, swing hard?

1718
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean right, it's this like we're telling major

1719
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 2: leaguers now the same thing that all of us dads

1720
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 2: stand in the third base coach boxing.

1721
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 1: Do just start to swing early.

1722
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 2: Come on, let's don't just stand there like that's what

1723
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 2: we're doing. Because human beings, you can't see that. You

1724
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 2: cannot see and react to one hundred and two miles

1725
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 2: an hour, and if you can, the fact that these

1726
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 2: pictures have dirty ninety three mile an hour sliders.

1727
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: To go with it, you got no shot. You got

1728
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: no shot. Good luck track and that thing. Get the

1729
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: bat out early, step toward the picture. Oh god.

1730
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 2: All right, we're in the tyrag dot com studios, and

1731
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 2: maybe we should just set this up for what's coming

1732
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 2: up next. Because we were rolling through the names until

1733
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 2: Brandon Ingram sound like you're leaning that he changes teams,

1734
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:58,719
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, You firmly think that that he changes team.

1735
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I don't see how it works there.

1736
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 2: George, right, you think you think he's on a different

1737
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 2: team coming up next year. I got two more pretty

1738
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 2: significant names that I want to ask you about. And

1739
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 2: then we should also dive into if if if those

1740
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 2: guys are leaving, then then where are they're going.

1741
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 1: So we can get into all of that.

1742
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 2: Coming up next with him from Salam, Mark Willard, Fox

1743
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Tyron dot Com Studios, Mark with he from

1744
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 2: Salam to the Beat.

1745
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: I am the one to Mike and like to say

1746
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 1: hello and the Purple and yet low bang bang jump

1747
01:50:53,040 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 1: bang bang bood. That's rot body, Rob. I got two

1748
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 1: more names for you, Am. That's when.

1749
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 2: Why I got two more names. But I also don't

1750
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 2: want to interrupt. I was just gonna say these may

1751
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:27,679
Speaker 2: sound like quick answers, but let's see, because we're talking

1752
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 2: about eliminated NBA stars, right is is.

1753
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 1: Gianni's still going to be on the Bucks. That's a

1754
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 1: good one. M What do you think? I think, Yes,

1755
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 1: I think Giannis is committed to the Bucks, and I

1756
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 1: know they'll also keep his brother as long as he

1757
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 1: wants them.

1758
01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 2: Two, don't laugh. Your team's gonna draft Brownie James might

1759
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:03,519
Speaker 2: as well.

1760
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the second round draft pick, so same

1761
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,559
Speaker 1: damn thing. Not really, it is, No, it's not. Most

1762
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 1: second round draft picks are on two way contracts, are there,

1763
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 1: and they're on the D League affiliate team and get

1764
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: called up every now and then. It's not the same thing.

1765
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:21,799
Speaker 1: His brother is on the active roster. Yeah, he dresses

1766
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,720
Speaker 1: out every single game. It is not the same thing.

1767
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 2: Let's let's make mom the assistant coach. I mean where

1768
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 2: like where, let's where are we stopping? But go ahead.

1769
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm you asking me a question.

1770
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm just giving it to you, to you real, you know,

1771
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 1: I think Milwaukee, it's well, you heard the story about

1772
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 1: jan It's not why he didn't sign with the didas

1773
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: they promised his brother, yep. And then when he went

1774
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 1: in to sign his contract, he said, well, where's my

1775
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 1: brother's contract? And they said, oh, well, will you do

1776
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: yours first and we'll do his next week. And it

1777
01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 1: was like, naw, we're good next week. Right, So obviously

1778
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 1: that means something if they continue to keep I mean,

1779
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 1: they might bring his other brother in. Like what wouldn't

1780
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:14,680
Speaker 1: you do for your star. You wouldn't put you know,

1781
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 1: you wouldn't field spot twelve and thirteen on the bench

1782
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: who never play anyway, never get in the game. You

1783
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't just reserve those spots for to appease your star.

1784
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's real. Maybe yep, I mean circumstantially maybe,

1785
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: Like outside of that, I mean, you draft whoever in

1786
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 1: the second round and expect them to do what They'll

1787
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 1: have a you know, a ball playing in a summer

1788
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 1: summer league. Be great. They'll come up and during the

1789
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: injuries during the year, you'll be able to come up

1790
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:05,560
Speaker 1: and play. You'll play for the you know, the Colombia

1791
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: Chester Kats and then get brought up to you know,

1792
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 1: play for whatever NBA affiliate it has, and vice versa

1793
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:20,919
Speaker 1: and back and forth, and you know, a couple of games,

1794
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 1: Brownie will be able to get in and sit back down. Yeah,

1795
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 1: it's a great story. Let me ask you one more.

1796
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: Is Joe l Embiid on the Sixers next year? Yes? Okay, yeah,

1797
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 1: I think he is. I mean his teammates are all

1798
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: free agents. Yes, and I think all of them. I mean,

1799
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 1: the one consistent thing there is the revolving do around him.

1800
01:54:56,200 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 1: He just doesn't revolve. He's just there. But they'll bring

1801
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: in and like he's the one constant. I don't believe

1802
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 1: he's going anywhere. I think he'll be there. Whatever they

1803
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 1: do around him, that'll be you know, what they've been

1804
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 1: doing since he's been there. So in my opinion, yeah,

1805
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 1: I believe so, I believe he's there.

1806
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 2: Still, they're probably right and a lot of these names

1807
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 2: that were thrown out there, it's fun to think about

1808
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 2: them moving very very complex, it's not easy to do.

1809
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 2: But I do think that this off season is on

1810
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 2: its way to setting up for potentially it's unprecedented big

1811
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 2: name movement in the off season. The Donovan Mitchell idea,

1812
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 2: sure that's been thrown around. However, he's still playing. I

1813
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 2: don't like his chances in the next round. But that's

1814
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 2: the other thing. Like some of these names, and I'll

1815
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 2: give you another one that I like. About a month

1816
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 2: and a half ago, I heard a lot of hey,

1817
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 2: watch watch this guy, watch for this team, and if

1818
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't go well, it's probably time for a breakup.

1819
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 1: Well, that player was.

1820
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns, and the Wolves have not lost a

1821
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 2: playoff game yet, so now that's going to change that calculus, right,

1822
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 2: unless they lose the next four games in a row, like,

1823
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 2: it's still on the table. But I just think that

1824
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 2: there's a lot that still needs to be figured out.

1825
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 2: But the names that we're talking about, largely these the

1826
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 2: fate seems to already be there. For for brandon ingram

1827
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 2: for for Paul George, for Kevin Durant, These are teams

1828
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 2: that are like, they're good teams.

1829
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 1: But let's be real, they're not close. They're not close.

1830
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: It didn't work. They're not close, you know. And you

1831
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 1: called brandon ingram a clear two. Uh, not for nothing.

1832
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know what the Golden

1833
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 2: State Warriors shopping list is this year.

1834
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:07,680
Speaker 1: Number two.

1835
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 2: That is precisely what they want and what they don't have. Yeah,

1836
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 2: they have a used to be. They have a used

1837
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 2: to be to. His name is Klay Thompson. They have

1838
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:24,120
Speaker 2: a should be to, but he'd rather be. A three

1839
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 2: that's Andrew Wiggins, and they have a could be to,

1840
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 2: but he not ready yet.

1841
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: His name's Jonathan Kamingah. Do you think what are the

1842
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 1: pieces you think will be removed from your team?

1843
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 2: Well, I know that anybody who's in a conversation is

1844
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:51,959
Speaker 2: going to want Jonathan kaminga. So that's that's the difficult

1845
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 2: one though, because he's also the one they don't want

1846
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 2: to give up. Wiggins is the one they want to

1847
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: give up who's not going to net you a huge return.

1848
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 2: And then you go from there. If it's just a

1849
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 2: financial thing, you could opt into Chris Paul and use

1850
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 2: that thirty million dollar contract in a trade. They've got

1851
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 2: a lot of first round draft picks that they can

1852
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 2: deal complex what a very expensive Well, if you're able

1853
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 2: to land a big fish, he's probably gonna have to walk.

1854
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 2: And I'm not convinced that he doesn't want to. That's

1855
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 2: the surprising part of it. I think there's still feelings.

1856
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:35,920
Speaker 2: There's still feelings out there with regard to what Clay

1857
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:38,680
Speaker 2: was not offered before the season even started.

1858
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think this thing is going well. I

1859
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 1: think it's the end. I think it should have been

1860
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 1: the end last year. We had this conversation at the

1861
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 1: end of last year. I thought they did a disservice

1862
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 1: by running it back, bringing the band back. I didn't

1863
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 1: see how that was going to work, and it didn't.

1864
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: And so I mean, if they they keep doing the

1865
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 1: same thing, then.

1866
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 2: Well, and they may not have they may not have

1867
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 2: a choice. They may not have a choice. And they

1868
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 2: end of the season by right away saying that they

1869
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 2: want Clay.

1870
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 1: Back, Well that's that's not basically, Hey, we'll talk to

1871
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 1: you again next week, buddy.

1872
01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 2: For you from salam I'm Mark Willard playing and Spaniard

1873
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 2: coming up on Fox Sports Radio.