1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you do Jack, Jack Warris, did you know 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time right and sex steps to John. Actually, 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning, a happy Monday. 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Welcome into Jaguars Drive Time. We often stid and we 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: are ready for the second half of the season, coming 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: off the bye week. Here on Jack's Drive Time, I'm 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: here with Brian Sexton and John Osier. Brian, are we rested? 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Are we relaxed? Are we refreshed? Uh? Yeah, I mean 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: last week, you know, working from home where there's really 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: not a lot of work to do, it was it 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: was nice, it was steady. Uh, you know, a little here, 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: a little there. I think I got ahead for the 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. People may not know. I'm a 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: type a personality. I have a to do list. I'm 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: constantly checking things and trying to move ahead, make sure 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm ahead on things where I can be. So I 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: feel like I'm ahead for the next two weeks, and 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: that's always a good feeling. Indeed, John, how's the to 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: do list looking? The two list is in good shape. 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: I still have a dog visit at some point this week, 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: but uh that we're in good shape. So I'm I'm 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: raring to go, Shlyn. I love to hear it. The 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: enthusiasm is here this morning. And if you guys did 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: not know, a lot of news happened during the bye week. 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: So let's get to a big thing. One is quarterback, 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: So this happened while we were away. Garter Minshew has 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: suffered three fractures and a sprained ligament in his right 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: thumb reported by Adam schefdur Ian Rappaport last week in 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: his throwing hand. So obviously this is a major, big deal. Believed. 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: You will be inactive on Sunday, which means Mike Glennon 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: and Jake Luke compete this week at practice for the 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: starting job. One will start, one will back up, is 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: to be believed. So this is major news this week 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: that we will talk much more about. Big thing too 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: is quarterback acts plural, Lamar Jackson, Josh Alan, Joe Burrow. 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 1: You get the point. The a f C is loaded 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: with exciting young quarterbacks. The Jaguars have to get there. 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: So we've talked about this in the past, We're gonna 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: talk about it in the future. We're gonna talk about 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: it today. This is major news for the Jaguars. And finally, 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: Big Thing three is Marone magic question Mark? What can 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: you pull out of his hat to ignite this team? 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: This team after the bye week fired up last week 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: when we spoke to him, every game was the most 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: important game of his career going forward, he said, he 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: said he's gonna change some things up the second half 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: of the season. So let's go back up to the top. 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Big thing one the quarterback Gardner Mins, who suffered injuries 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: and his throwing hand. So that it happened week two 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: against Houston, and it was kind of a miscommunication with 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: the team on when it happened and why Gunner wasn't 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: more vocal at the start. But Brian, this week at 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: practice you have Jake Lewton and Mike Lennon at quarterback 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: fighting for the starting job. How do you see the 55 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: shaking out? Well? So, actually, if if I could be 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: the coach or the general manager, I'd want to be 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: the general manager. I want to be the guy making 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: the big picture decisions. And this is a really big 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: picture decision. Mike Lennan in his time in the NFL 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: has been a consistent backup. That's what he is. This 61 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: is his fifth NFL team in his eighth NFL season. 62 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: You know what he is now. Jake Luton flashed a 63 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: little bit during whatever preseason there was. We didn't get 64 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: to see him any games, so flash is a relative term. 65 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: I'd put him out there. I'd want to see what 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: he is. It still wouldn't stop me. I am convinced 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: you cannot take me otherwise. Down another road, the Jaguars 68 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: will use their highest draft choice on a quarterback next 69 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: was it April or May? I don't know where they 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: pushed it back or where it is. Next spring they 71 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: will use a draft pick on a quarterback, and we'll 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: talk about a big thing too. You gotta have your quarterback. Um, 73 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: But I no offense. If I'm the coach, I want 74 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: to win, So maybe I lean towards Mike Glennon. But 75 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: I just told you I would rather be the general manager, 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: and I would rather see what I have and position 77 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: myself to be able to make a good decision in 78 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: the spring next year. So I say, um, I say 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: you go with the kid from Oregon State. Know when 80 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you and you say no offense? But John, 81 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: I keep going back to training camp. We were talking 82 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: at times that Jake Lewton through the best ball and 83 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: at times looks like the most exciting quarterback. We didn't 84 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: get to see him in preseason, but there were many 85 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: days in a row where he was the buzz of camp. 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: So you say no offense, but John it almost at 87 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: times looked like he is the best option. I'd be 88 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: stunned if it's not Jake Luton on Sunday. I just 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: don't see a scenario where coach GM whatever you are, 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: didn't make sense. And schlenn we all talked about it. 91 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: If you had just walked out to practice during training 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: camp and had no idea taking the numbers off, taking 93 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: the jerseys off, had no idea who was supposed to start, 94 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: you would have assumed that Jake Lewton was the starter 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: and the best quarterback in camp. And that doesn't mean 96 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: it translates to the field and all that. But um, 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, I think it will be Jake Luton Sunday, 98 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: and I think there's a very good chance it will 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: be Jake Luton the rest of the season. I don't 100 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: see any point in going to Glennon. If you're saying 101 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: no offense, it's no offense to Glennon, who is a 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback for a long period of time. But you 103 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: know what he is, so uh, you know, competition, I 104 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: don't know how you compete in two days for the job. 105 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: I think that's something they need to say, But I 106 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: would be surprised if it's not Jake Luten on sundaysh 107 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: Line and here you're gonna hear from ahead, Brian. Sorry, 108 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: here's here's where they could be better with Luton um 109 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: After the game the Wednesday, after the game in Cincinnati, 110 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Jake Gruden let us in. People were listening closely. You 111 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: know they heard they heard between the lines if you will, 112 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: uh that the quarterback that was playing at the time, 113 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is short and struggled in that game to 114 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: see what was going on. And I thought there were 115 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: times in the game against the Chargers in Los Angeles 116 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: that he struggled to see what was going and held 117 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: the ball too long because he was trying to decipher 118 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: what was going on around him where he couldn't see. 119 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: This kid, Luton is big. I mean he's nearly six 120 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: ft seven and has a big arm to go with it. 121 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: He'll be able to see what's going on down the field. 122 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: Now again, he's never played in an NFL game, preseason 123 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: or otherwise, so to expect big things from him is 124 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: probably too big of a concept, too big of an ask. 125 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: But you may see him get rid of the ball 126 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: quickly and identify receivers faster because he has that advantage 127 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 1: of six or seven inches on Gardner. Minshew, you're right, Brian. 128 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: He is the prototypical body of an NFL quarterback. And 129 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: we mentioned that he has no game experience and John, 130 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: I hate to look at it this way, but at 131 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: times it is true. With this losing record, and you 132 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: look at Jake Luton, it's almost like, what do you 133 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: have to lose? Like, go put him out there, go 134 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: see what happens. I know that's not the correct way 135 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: to look at it, but that's what I keep thinking, 136 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: is you might as well put him out there and 137 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: see what happens. I'm not sure there is another way 138 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: to look at it. I think you're fine. I don't 139 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: think you have to go to sleep with guilt tonight 140 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: for saying at Shelin. I think you're fine with it. 141 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, you're one in six. You've 142 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: lost six straight games. The defense is struggled, but the 143 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: offense is also struggled the defense. You know, the offense 144 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: has struggled at key times. We've all talked about it. Um, 145 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, the kids got a a very good arm. 146 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: People in the Pac ten thought he was underdrafted. They 147 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: thought that he was a NFL quarterback. You've got overlooked 148 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. Look the Gardner Mitchi was a sixth 149 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: round pick. These kids a sixth round pick. There's no 150 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: law that says he can't be good. Let's see what 151 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: he's got. And yes, Sheln, what do he had to lose? 152 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: You're one in six. Go for it now, Brian, this 153 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: is looking way, way way in advance. But what if 154 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: Jake Luton comes out here lights it up a little 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: bit of like we saw with minshewe magic when he 156 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: went in for Nick Foles. Then what happens? Then maybe 157 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: you have somewhat of an answer at quarterback. But I 158 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: know you're gonna say you still have to draft a quarterback, 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: no matter what if Jake Luten looks like the best 160 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, you still have to address that 161 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: the off season. Yeah. Look, uh, John asked the question hypothetically, 162 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: what do you have to lose? Uh, you have to 163 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: lose a shot at by the three quarterbacks at the 164 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: top of the draft. To be honest with you, I've 165 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: heard I forget who it was over the weekend a podcast. 166 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Oh it was Bucky Brooks. Who you do the Wednesday 167 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: afternoon doing show with the Daniel Jeremiah on moving the sticks. 168 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: And they think right now that Lawrence Fields and the 169 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: Lance kid, Trey Lance from North Dakota State could go one, 170 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: two and three. Right, Um, this is a year where 171 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: there are quarterbacks at the top of the draft. So 172 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: if you're not a good football team and in need 173 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: of a quarterback, it's not a bad year. In fact, 174 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: it's a very good year to play out the season 175 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: and accept what you are and then go and solve 176 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: that problem next spring. Right you can call it tank 177 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: for Trevor or the old suck for Luck or whatever 178 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: you want to do. I'm not intimated that they are 179 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: doing that. This is a good year if you need 180 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback to get the quarterback. So you do have 181 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: something to lose if you go out there and win 182 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: four games or five games, which would be outrageous performance 183 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: from Jake Luton. I mean it would be huge, but 184 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: it would be bad for your franchise because it's pushing 185 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: you down the ladder, and this franchise has done it 186 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: way too often over the years. They have fallen away 187 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: from where quarterbacks were to win five games, Oh boy, 188 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: five games, not a playoff team, get your quarterback. As 189 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: I watched yesterday, I saw um Lamar Jackson and Josh 190 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: Allen and even too who did not have a huge 191 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: day statistically, but I watched a couple of throws and 192 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: him moved in the pocket and went wow. I'll talk 193 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: about Drew Locket headlines in the way he played in 194 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: the second half. And you just look all over the 195 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: a f C and there's exciting young quarterbacks. I'm tired 196 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: of not having one in Jacksonville. This is the year 197 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: to get your quarterback, not to win five games. Yeah, 198 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: we're at the point of the season. We have to 199 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: start at least addressing somewhat the draft position of the 200 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: off season. So I am with you, Brian, those are 201 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: big things when we come back. Some Bernie Wood fire 202 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: Girl hot takes going into Jags drive time on a 203 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: Monday morning. With over one hundred years of experience, Duvo 204 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: Motor Company knows experience counts both on the field and 205 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: under the hood. 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We're back on 238 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: Jags Drive Time Monday morning, which means we have Bernie 239 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: would fire Grill hot takes going into the last nine 240 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: weeks of this season. And what do we have. Let's 241 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: go up Bryan Sexton coming up against the Houston Texans. 242 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: Got a hot take for you? Yeah, and I think 243 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: this is the best matchup left on the schedule. Look, 244 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean if you really wanted to look at Luton 245 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: and say he's your guy going forward and see him 246 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: have success. If he had gone in in week two, 247 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: maybe you would be able to say, Okay, he's making 248 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: some strides. But when you look at the matchups left, 249 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean beyond this one. And by the way, the 250 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars have never beaten Deshaun Watson when he has started 251 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: against him. He came in and finished Opening Day, but 252 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: they have lost the last five times they have faced 253 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson by an average of fourteen points. Why do 254 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: I say that this is a good matchup on Sunday? 255 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: It's a division game, and three games ago it was 256 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: thirteen twelve and the Jaguars failed on a fourth pardon me, 257 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: on a two point conversion late in the fourth quarter 258 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: and had a chance to win that ballgame. But other 259 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: than that, Deshaun Watson has befuddled them. But it is 260 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: a division game and they're not playing very well, so 261 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: I think that is But you just look at the quarterbacks, 262 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that they face coming up at the Packers 263 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: against Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers. Baker Mayfield wasn't great yesterday, 264 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: but he through five touchdowns the week before they go 265 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: to the Vikings. They want in Green Bay. Yesterday they're 266 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: playing really well. Ryan Tannehill has played exceptionally well for 267 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: the Titans this year. You get Lamar Jackson, we saw 268 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: what he's capable of yesterday, and the Nick Foles and 269 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, I mean, the cornerbacks alone make this a 270 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: murderers row of a schedule for a Jaguars team that's 271 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: not playing well anywhere right now and potentially starting a 272 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: sixth round rookie quarterback who didn't get any time in 273 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: the preseason. The Jaguars face a division team that they 274 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: know well on Sunday. I think this is the best 275 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: matchup left on the schedule for them. Doesn't mean they 276 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: can't win any of those other games, but if you're 277 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: looking at one and going there, the Jaguars are going 278 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: to get this one. This one on Sunday would be 279 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: the one to say that about very very true. And 280 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can say we're gonna get 281 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: this one for any of them, but I agree with you, 282 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: this week looks to be the most probab All right, 283 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: John Oser, what do you have for your hot take? Well, 284 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: hot pake is don't rule out the possibility Minshew has 285 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: started the last game this season. Um, and again, you 286 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: know I've gotten emails. You know, why do you in 287 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: sex then hate Gardner? Minshew? Why are you guys so 288 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: down on him? It's all I hear. Um, this is 289 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: not an anti Minshew take necessarily. It's just that right now, 290 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: if Luton or if Glennon, and I'm not gonna rule 291 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: it the possibility that Glennon starts, but if one of 292 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: those guys comes in and plays well, and the offense 293 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: looks like it can go down field, if it looks 294 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: better doing some of the things that we've all talked about, 295 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: the Gardener doesn't do. You know, sometimes in the NFL 296 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: there's this adage you don't lose your job due to injury. 297 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's necessarily what this is. I 298 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: don't know that it comes into play here. I think 299 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: if Luton or Glennon, or if the offense looks better, 300 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's an automatic where you go 301 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: back to Mensia and you know it's not breaking news, 302 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: but this is not a case where if Aaron Rodgers 303 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: gets hurt, you're going back to him automatically. I don't 304 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: sense that's the case here. But I do get the 305 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: idea this quarterback position for nine games. Bucko up, we're 306 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna be watching it, right, Can I jump in here? Ashland? 307 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna get to your hot takes 308 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: a couple of things. First of all, in in the 309 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: in during the blame Gabbert Era, I took a lot 310 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: of heat for believing in blame Gabbert. I saw the 311 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: physical package and understood, you know, he was a smart guy, 312 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: and I kept looking forward and people hated that. Right 313 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: and now you look, I mean he had all the 314 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: physical characteristics and Gardner has none of the physical characteristics. 315 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: So if you wait too long, uh well, you just 316 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: loved him too much. And if you jump when it's 317 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: right now, you just don't like it very much. I 318 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: said it last week. I'll say it again every week 319 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: that he's in Jacksonville. It's not personal. We need to 320 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: see a quarterback in jackson Bill that it can be 321 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: the man. I don't see that when I look at 322 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshoe. So it is absolutely no hate involved. I 323 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: liked him very much as a person. A little bit 324 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: of interaction that we had with him last year before 325 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: we went virtual this year. It's not hate folks. You 326 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: gotta have the quarterback forget Hey, it's a business. This 327 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: is pro ball. It is not college football. It's all 328 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: about having the man, and the Jaguars have to find 329 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: their man. John one other point, and you you kind 330 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: of alluded to it. You said, you know, I don't 331 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: think he won the job. He can't go back to 332 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: the job that he didn't win. He had the first 333 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: seven weeks to say that's Gardner Minshoe's job. He didn't 334 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: win it. So it's not like he's losing his job. 335 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: His claim this year was to claim it for himself. 336 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: He couldn't do it. Put Luton in there now. And 337 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: you know the other thing is that thumb. It didn't 338 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: just heal itself. You know, in two weeks or ten days, 339 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: he could have trouble gripping the ball of the rest 340 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: of the way. This could be a lingering issue for him. 341 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: So he's got to take care of himself and his 342 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: future and make sure that he gets fixed right and 343 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: doesn't try to rush it back. Mm hmm. Couldn't agree more. 344 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: Would be a totally different story if this team had 345 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: four or five wins and he was playing well and 346 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: it looked to be somewhat like he was the guy, 347 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: but that's not where we are right now, all right, 348 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: my Bernie Wood fire Girl hot take plays a little 349 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: bit into big thing three, which was what can round 350 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: to turn this team around? Get ready for a team 351 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: going for it on fourth down for the rest of 352 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: this season. Doug Ron says he's done crazier things before 353 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: than going around and turning this team around. He's seen 354 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: it at Syracuse beating the odds and his as we're 355 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: going outside the box for the rest of the season. Gardner, 356 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: Minshew and company spoke after the Charges game about how 357 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: much they love that Dug Marone went for it on 358 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: fourth down and went for it on two point conversion 359 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: and said, we love when our coach puts trust in us. 360 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: That is not just a one week thing. I expect 361 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: that for the rest of this season, and frankly, you 362 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: have to with this roster the way it is, and 363 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear hopefully some updates on injuries. You're at 364 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: the point where you have to be aggressive. You have 365 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: to take chances. The players seem to like get Dug 366 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: Brown said, buckle up. It's going to be a crazy 367 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: nine weeks. So Brian, it plays into a little, a 368 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: big thing. Three doun Ron is forced to be aggressive, 369 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: but I think he's okay with it. The players soon 370 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: be okay with it. So fourth downs, two point conversions, 371 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: Lavisca and the slot Lavisca taken snaps. I don't I 372 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: don't care what it is, but it's gonna be a 373 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: crazy couple of nine weeks. They're gonna have to get creative. Well, 374 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: John and I were covering the league in two thousand 375 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: and eight, and you were living in South Florida, I 376 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: believe at that time when Tony Sperrano, the late Tony Sperrano, 377 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: who's Sun by the way, is on the Jaguar staff. 378 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: So if you want to start connecting dots grabbed David Lee, 379 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: who was his quarterbacks coach, who had been at Arkansas 380 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: the year before, and they came up with the Wildcat 381 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: and they went into New England and Ronnie Brown, a 382 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: running back, took direct snaps. I think he scored four 383 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns that night and through another one and they 384 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: clambered the Patriots and they beat him thirty eight to thirteen. Um. 385 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: That was the Wildcat era, and it was fun and 386 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: it was different because you know, it wasn't a very 387 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: good Dolphins team and they didn't have a quarterback and 388 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: they had to try something different. Well, the Jaguars find 389 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: themselves in that position. You know, the quarterback that they 390 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: did have has a broken thumb, and they've got a 391 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: rookie who's never played it down in any kind of 392 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: NFL game, So why not at least put the opportunity 393 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: out there to use Labisca? And that was the name 394 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: that came to mind, or anyone else for that matter. 395 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: Maybe James Robinson's played a little quarterback somewhere in his 396 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: football pass. He's had such a good year, why not? Yeah, 397 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: and John, I can't help it go last night? What 398 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: what are you doing for kicking put Lambo and Cook 399 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: on on injuries or stating for next year? 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Visit Jaguars dot com today and 442 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: buy your ticket. Who will be the next big winner? 443 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: We're back Jets Drive Time. Mondane warning here was some 444 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: ozone snapshot. We're going all the way Colas Vegas. Cliff 445 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: what do you got for us? While I understand the 446 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: state of the franchise as it pertains to this season, 447 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: any chance you can see us as buyers during the 448 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: trade deadline if there were a corner, defensive tackle, or 449 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: tight end that would help next year, John, the trade 450 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: deadline is tomorrow afternoon, so if so, they better get busy. Well, 451 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: if there's gonna be something that happened, it would probably 452 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: happen tomorrow as the trade deadline approach. I don't see 453 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars as buyers. I kind of get the point 454 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: of the question if there was a young guy he 455 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: thought might help in the future. I don't think they're 456 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: gonna be trading to bring players in. And I also 457 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: don't know that there's anybody left to trade and try 458 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: to trade for draft picks. They've already done that, so 459 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if there's a movement, maybe something minor 460 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: for a draft pick coming in. But I don't see it. 461 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: You know, the only thing you look at it is 462 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: if there was a Minka Fitzpatrick kind of guy. But 463 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: if you were called, that cost the dealer is a 464 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: top ten pick and the Jaguars aren't going to give 465 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: that up. Anything else that is available you'll find in 466 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: the draft. Next year you'll get your own. You'll protect 467 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: your salary structure because remember, when you trade a pick 468 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: for a player, you're all so trading cap room, right, 469 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: sound financial processes away to take on someone else's contract 470 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to either pay or re up 471 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: and pay. It's much better to go get your own, 472 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: unless there is that special guy, I mean, make a 473 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick has been a star for the Steelers, and the 474 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: Dolphins just threw him overboard. They got a top ten 475 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: pick for but they you know, you're not going to 476 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: see that kind of thing happen. And the Jaguars aren't 477 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: trading their top ten pick next year. They're drafting a quarterback. 478 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: No new and the Jaguars are in a good situation 479 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: with their caps. So I agree, leave it the way 480 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: it is for now. All right, here we go, Chapel Hill, Gabe, 481 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: please tell me that if the Jaguars have one of 482 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: their top two picks of the draft, they won't pass 483 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: on a quarterback based on the belief that Minshew is 484 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback who would have proven himself if it 485 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: had not been for this thumb injury. Well, rest easy game, 486 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. That's not what this is. Yeah, 487 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be you know, cute in that answer. 488 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: I've gotten a couple like this, you know, people who 489 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: aren't quite you know, engage with it. That's not what 490 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: this is. This is not a case where the Jaguars 491 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: are going to look at it and say, well, Minshew 492 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: had a lot of these great before the thumb injury. 493 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: He the arms strength was pre thumb. The questions that 494 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: unfortunately for him, dog him were pre thumb. This is 495 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: not a case where you're not sure what he is. 496 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: So I don't think that's a concern. You know, It's 497 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: not a case where all of a sudden things are 498 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: going to change. Right when I was a kid and 499 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a journalist, I admired Peter Jennings. 500 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to be Peter Jennings and sit on the 501 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: set of ABC World News. Tonight was a long time ago, folks, 502 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: things were much different. Um, but I was never gonna 503 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: be that guy, right Uh. Instead of a football broadcaster 504 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: and I'm working in Jacksonville, Florida and enjoying my life, 505 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: the same thing is going to be. The truth for 506 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is that he is not a franchise quarterback. 507 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: I think he's going to play in the NFL for 508 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: a number of years. I've likened him, I think to 509 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Garcia. I think he can find himself in the 510 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: right spot here or there and do some fun things. 511 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: But he's not the elite guy. It doesn't make him 512 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: a bad person. It doesn't mean he can't play in 513 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: the league. It just means he's not the elite guy. 514 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody's looking at him now and 515 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: going well, maybe he'll show us the second half of 516 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: the season, if he gets healthy, or maybe in Gardner 517 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: Minshew will show us that he can be the elite guy. 518 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: He's just not. It's just the truth is the truth 519 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: is the truth, and it's the pure defense. It's time 520 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: for this franchise to go find their franchise quarterback. The 521 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: good news for them is in this year in which 522 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: they are not very good on the field, there is 523 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: very or there are very good options available to them 524 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: in next springs draft. The sample size is what it 525 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: is for Gardner Minshe. They've seen a lot of games 526 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: from him, and it is truth be told. Agree with you, Brian. 527 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Chris. Considering the Jaguars have 528 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: given up thirty plus points in six straight games, is 529 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: this the worst team the franchise has ever fielded? The 530 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: results are unbelievable. It seems like the offense is too 531 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: talented to let this happen. John Well, I don't think 532 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: it's the worst, and I'm getting a lot of this 533 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: because everybody's sort of hooked on the thirty points in 534 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: six straight games. Remember this is a much different offensive 535 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: era overall around the league than it was in the nineties, 536 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: even the two thousands, So you know, yes, they're giving 537 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: up an absurd number of points, but in this day 538 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: and age, if if you're bad on defense, you're going 539 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: to give up a lot more points than if you 540 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: were bad on defense in two thousand one or whatever 541 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: the year you want to pick out. And I also 542 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: think there's so much more young talent on this team 543 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: then there has been on some past struggling Jaguars teams. 544 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: Maybe the record won't wind up showing me right, but 545 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: I think there is more on this team to give 546 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: you hope going forward, and there has been on some 547 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: past Jaguar scene You're exactly right, John. The two thousand 548 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: twelve roster, if you go back and look at it, uh, 549 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: was bereft of talent. There just wasn't much there. Uh. 550 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: This roster, as we have talked about, has lots of 551 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: good young talent. The problem is people want to look 552 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: at a blanket. They want to say two thousand twelve 553 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: or two thousand sixteen or two thousand and twenty, and 554 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: they don't look at individual situations. And if you go 555 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: back and look in the game against Houston a couple 556 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, have the Jaguars offense been able to 557 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: function inside the red zone? You have a different outcome, right, Uh, 558 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: same thing at moments of the ball game in Los Angeles. 559 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: That's where the quarterback comes back in people. The quarterback, 560 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: the trigger man, makes it all work. He overcomes situations 561 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: where the defense might be weak, right, but gives them 562 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: the ball inside, the scores a touchdown, then takes over 563 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: the game. The quarterback make is it all go. The 564 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 1: one thing we know about the worst teams in Jaguars 565 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: history twelve sixty, right, they didn't have a quarterback. Mhm. 566 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: And you're starting to see those draft picks from two thousand, 567 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: seventeen and two thousand and eight teens start hitting their stripes. 568 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: So there is potential on this roster and hopefully future years. 569 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, some NFL headlines presenting 570 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: by Brian Sexton coming up on Jack Strive Time. Hey 571 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: Jacks fans, we all know douv All is a big 572 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: place and you need to get a lot of mileage 573 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: out of what you drive. That's why do Val Motor 574 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: Company put service first. They don't just sell great cars 575 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: and trucks. 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He went off in the 595 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: locker room yesterday and then went off in the second half. Now, look, 596 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: he's the young quarterback from Missouri that was a second 597 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: round pick last year by Denver, but he didn't get 598 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: a play a lot in because of a thumb injury 599 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: of all things. And he really hadn't looked great. In fact, 600 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: until yesterday, he hadn't thrown a touchdown passed since opening Day. 601 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: He had two interceptions in a loss to the Chiefs 602 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: and two interceptions in a win over the Patriots, and 603 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: in the first half yesterday was a scintillating nine of 604 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: fifteen for a total of sixty yards for the Broncos offense. 605 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: But he went in at halftime and challenged his teammates 606 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: he's a young guy at him. He started the full season, 607 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: yet came out in the second half. I think it 608 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: was twenty four through three touchdown passes in the fourth quarter, 609 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: and the Broncos came away with a big win over 610 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers, who were surging a little bit after the 611 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: win over the Jaguars. UM talk is it's cheap. He 612 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: went out and proved it yesterday with that big win. 613 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: How about the guy in Chicago yesterday, Javon Wims. He 614 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: wigged out, Um attacked the defensive back. If you've seen 615 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: the video. If you haven't, go find it. He was 616 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: ejected from the game. What was interesting was after the game, 617 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: Mattneggie alternately said we can't have that, whichever coach has 618 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: to say, and then defended the kid in his character. 619 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: But if you watch the video, you're wondering all about that. 620 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: You just didn't see a whole lot of examples of it. 621 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: And he's a sucker punch, open hand to the face 622 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: mask Um. The Saints kept their cool, the fight got 623 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 1: broken up. It was a scene. There was fighting all 624 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: over football. So I think you saw a little bit 625 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: of that that with your Gators over the weekend as well, 626 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: and our final headline today is always I forget what 627 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: it is, so you need to throw it up there 628 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: for me, stone cold, and that's Tomlin time. Um, Mike 629 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: Tomlin has the Pittsburgh Steelers off to their best start 630 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: since drumroll please nineteen seventy eight, when they won the 631 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: third of their four Super Bowls in the Steel Curtain era. 632 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: So congratulations. I mean, first of all, it's only the 633 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: second seven and o start in franchise history, which is 634 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: amazing considering how many great Steelers teams we all have watched, 635 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: especially teams that have come here and played in Jacksonville. However, 636 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: here's another note, and as John likes to say, it 637 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: will be a story until it isn't. And we talk 638 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: about black head coaches, and you know, we've seen black 639 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: gentlemen get their opportunity to be head coaches, and we're 640 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: still talking about black coaches and not being enough in 641 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: the league. Uh. This gentleman, though, is now the winningest 642 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: black head coach in NFL history. Mike won his game 643 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: yesterday and that passes Tony Dungee. A man, I know 644 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: you have great affection for John and he is now 645 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: the winningest coach. And I mean that's more than John Matten. 646 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: Just to put in perspective for people. I mean, this 647 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: gentleman has won a lot of games. Final thought on 648 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers and him. You realized that since nineteen sixty 649 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers have had three head coaches, all of them 650 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: have won Super Bowls. Chuck Nole, Bill Kawer, and now 651 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. That's the kind of consistency that makes a 652 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: franchise great. Now. Look from sixty nine back to nine, 653 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: they had no consistency at all. They didn't have a 654 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: single winning season. So you can turn this thing around 655 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: if you have the right people in the right places. 656 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: But congratulations to Mike Tomlin, who was little known when 657 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: they pulled him out to be the successor to Bill 658 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: Kauer and has firmly put his name among the greats 659 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: in the game. Yes, absolutely a great accomplishment. And John, 660 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to you. Maybe you can help me 661 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: with that second NFL headline. My mother purchased socks for 662 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: me that says boys are dumb, throw rocks at them. 663 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't understand when you have a helmet on, why 664 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: you punch people with a helmet on. I will never 665 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: get it. And we see it week to week. Maybe 666 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: it's just me, but I'm lost on that one. I've 667 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: never understood. Uh. I was in a lot of street 668 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: fights when I was a kids lens. I'm I'm an 669 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: expert on this. Um I I have no idea. I've 670 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: never understood it. And I also don't really understood why 671 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: after about the age of seventeen you fist fight. But 672 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: that's that's the world we live in. Maybe that's just 673 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: Jags Drive Times. Maybe we're the odd balls out all right, 674 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, well done in NFL headlines. That is our show, 675 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: Jags Drive Time on a Monday morning. We'll be back Wednesday. 676 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. Head coach Doug Morrown meets the media two 677 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: o'clock today. We'll see you there.