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Speaker 4: Slash promos a podcast called twenty five whist Stocking fun
Speaker 4: fall and they go, well a whist so, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: too bad, but what did you expect.
Speaker 5: It's a podcast called twenty five.
Speaker 1: Whistles twenty wine. Welcome, Eddie, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: We're back.
Speaker 1: Kevin's back.
Speaker 5: There you go, Kevin.
Speaker 1: That's enough, all right anyway, So it's good to have
Speaker 1: him back. Yeah whatever.
Speaker 5: Good to see you again too.
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever.
Speaker 2: And look he looks like he's slept.
Speaker 1: You do look a little refreshed up. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: You did have twins first time you been back in
Speaker 1: two weeks and I don't know what's up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Actually, to your point, Eddie, a lot of people have
Speaker 6: said that, like when we go to the doctor or
Speaker 6: it's somebody like coming back here today, people are like, dude,
Speaker 6: you don't have like bags on your eyes. Okay, and
Speaker 6: the number one thing, help help.
Speaker 2: Help your parents.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the night shifts.
Speaker 6: Those suck, but during the day we could take naps
Speaker 6: for a couple hours because they can watch the kids.
Speaker 6: My mom is still here. Her mom leaves today, but
Speaker 6: they've been here for two weeks.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's when it gets real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll get a full play by play coming up.
Speaker 1: I want to know, like what it was like looking
Speaker 1: at him when it comes out all of that. I
Speaker 1: want to full play.
Speaker 2: Go to the video. I got a video.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can put it up.
Speaker 2: I'm good with him. We don't want to see that, Bobby.
Speaker 1: Sports, So we'll come back and get to that. In
Speaker 1: case there are new listeners who just don't want to
Speaker 1: hear about Kevin having a baby, we'll put that at
Speaker 1: the end of the show.
Speaker 2: We do.
Speaker 1: Don't be disappointed.
Speaker 5: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: They don't want to hear about that.
Speaker 1: We do have wait for us at football coach Jake
Speaker 1: Dicker coming up. I love the dude, probably because he
Speaker 1: listens to the show.
Speaker 2: That was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and he's like young and he's cool. So
Speaker 1: that's coming up in just a little bit. The thing
Speaker 1: that makes me laugh at the most. Now, I will
Speaker 1: say this first, that Kaitlyn Clark injured a quad and
Speaker 1: so she's out for about a month. And there's a
Speaker 1: game coming up. It's the Fever and the Chicago Sky
Speaker 1: it's Angel Reese's team, and they already had the incident
Speaker 1: earlier this year. And by the way, the WNBA was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's nothing to it, there's nothing racist said, because that
Speaker 1: was the whole thing. It was like, oh, we got
Speaker 1: racist remarks all during the WABA is like, we investigated
Speaker 1: all of it. We saw nothing, phone clips, there's nothing.
Speaker 1: But it is a rivalry and Caitlyn's hurt. And so
Speaker 1: tickets have gone from like the lowest priced ticket to
Speaker 1: being like eighty five bucks to like six dollars.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Everybody goes with the games because of Kaitlyn's Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And if you know what speaks louder than anything else,
Speaker 1: money and how much people are willing to spend. Who's
Speaker 1: willing to go. So that being said, this Angel Reese
Speaker 1: clip I'm Gonna play is so funny because I've watched
Speaker 1: every one of them they've done. It's these guys on
Speaker 1: TikTok and they get on and they bet every game
Speaker 1: that Angel Reyes plays. They're from at Stadium Live app.
Speaker 1: They bet because there's a bet will Angel Reese make
Speaker 1: or miss her first shot of the game?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 7: Is that?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: I don't know what the odds are. It can't be
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty because the shooting percentage isn't just straight
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. I would bet you the favorite is that
Speaker 1: she's going to miss. Yeah, it's like I said, just
Speaker 1: playing the odds, not even about her, but about anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna play the fourth one because they've
Speaker 1: hit three in a row. By the way, this is
Speaker 1: the fourth. I don't know why I think this is
Speaker 1: so funny. This is the fourth one. And it's a
Speaker 1: split screen and all these four guys are like watching
Speaker 1: their TV over on the top and on the bottom
Speaker 1: it's Angel Reese and the Chicago Skuy and it's the
Speaker 1: start of the game. As she gets the ball underneath
Speaker 1: the goal.
Speaker 7: Here we go four.
Speaker 8: Here it over modulates the phone. Microphone, that's how loud
Speaker 8: you're screaming?
Speaker 7: So loud?
Speaker 5: Good for that. My heart will go on.
Speaker 1: She's missed four opening shots in a row. That's worth
Speaker 1: hearing a second time. It is because you know what's
Speaker 1: about to happen. Now hit it again. Here we go,
Speaker 1: maybe more here.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 5: We should start doing that.
Speaker 1: That's funny. You missed the Wholton Eddie AI controversy.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, wait controversy.
Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen any of the clip?
Speaker 5: Legal trouble? Oh no, no, legal trouble. I heard about that,
Speaker 5: so I know.
Speaker 1: I made a full video.
Speaker 2: Wait, we're gonna read, We're gonna relive this again.
Speaker 5: Does he turn into something or whatever?
Speaker 2: No, okay, he's talking about the heroin Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh where his hair comes out?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there is a new program from Google. It's Vo three.
Speaker 1: It's the most realistic AI you could ever make. And
Speaker 1: I made a promo for the Bobby Cast for those
Speaker 1: that are hearing the story again, I apologize, bear with me.
Speaker 2: Don't want to apology accepted.
Speaker 5: I got new listeners.
Speaker 1: So I made a promo for the Bobbycast. The two
Speaker 1: cowboys riding horses looks like a movie. It's so realistic.
Speaker 1: And I was just showing people that follow me on
Speaker 1: social media how realistic it is and how versatile it is.
Speaker 1: So then I made a news anchor at a desk
Speaker 1: looks as real as can be, and its like I said,
Speaker 1: make a British news anchor that tells the new story
Speaker 1: of Eddie having a small PP. And so he's at
Speaker 1: the desk and he's like this, just in, Eddie has
Speaker 1: a small PP and it's so real. But everybody reacted
Speaker 1: to it like it was the funniest thing I'd ever done.
Speaker 1: Even my in laws in laws.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: I posted on Instagram and they were like, we have
Speaker 1: to admit we laughed.
Speaker 2: Wow, wow.
Speaker 1: And so I went to animate a full Your father
Speaker 1: in law laughed at that. My mother in law especially, well,
Speaker 1: she doesn't laugh at that. She's not low hanging fruit
Speaker 1: because she's hilarious, right, and she was like that. She
Speaker 1: was like, I laughed, And so I did that video
Speaker 1: and then I made three other clips. You can only
Speaker 1: do eight seconds at a time because it's so advanced.
Speaker 1: So I made a four like a thirty second video
Speaker 1: and Eddie said, don't post that. People will think it's
Speaker 1: real but it's not, and you know it's not. But
Speaker 1: I'll play it for you ready. It's it's just in. Oh, Mike,
Speaker 1: you have it. Yeah, Okay, go ahead. This just in
Speaker 1: Eddie has a tiny peek. That's good to see. Reporter.
Speaker 5: Now it's true. I just saw for myself, Producer.
Speaker 1: Eddie is the tiniest adult in America.
Speaker 2: There's a Mexican flag on my house.
Speaker 7: None of that.
Speaker 1: Eddie's in the house.
Speaker 5: And I'll prove to the world it's not true.
Speaker 2: Talking to my family.
Speaker 5: I'll take every measuring device.
Speaker 1: Now he's in like a lows with measuring devices. He's
Speaker 1: in a parking lot, he says, measurement zone. And he's
Speaker 1: got all these devices. And if you look at it
Speaker 1: like it looks, it looks so real about He was like,
Speaker 1: don't post that. And I was like, okay, but you
Speaker 1: think people think it's really goes Yeah, he goes post
Speaker 1: it and see the thing it's real And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: you just said don't post it.
Speaker 2: How many people thought it was real?
Speaker 1: None?
Speaker 5: My mom thought it was real.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Actually thought it was funny, not real.
Speaker 5: That is hilarious, dude, that was good.
Speaker 1: I made a new one. Not about that, thank god.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the one has a small.
Speaker 1: Which all of them is just small?
Speaker 5: PB videos read The British accent is so good. I
Speaker 5: think that's what makes it great.
Speaker 1: Because it sounds serious, elevated.
Speaker 2: Did you specifically say British music? Why would you like,
Speaker 2: why would your mind even go there.
Speaker 1: Because British people sound smarter than we are, and I thought,
Speaker 1: if it's a British news anchor, they seem it seems
Speaker 1: a bit elevators official. And he's like, welcome, Eddie has
Speaker 1: a small pape and I thought it'd be funny legit.
Speaker 1: So there you go, dude.
Speaker 2: The house that the reporter's stay in front of, it's Mexican.
Speaker 1: Flag on and she's holding it. She's holding a tape measure.
Speaker 2: Stupid.
Speaker 6: And then when you're talking to your kids or your family,
Speaker 6: are they like all sitting in front of ye, my
Speaker 6: wife's woe.
Speaker 2: He was specific with the details.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, people don't think it's real, but it
Speaker 1: is funny. That was a mild controversy here on the
Speaker 1: show because that he got a little irritated, but we
Speaker 1: found out mostly he was irritated because he had he
Speaker 1: lost a bunch of bets the weekend.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was kind of the root of it.
Speaker 5: It was like an underlying thing there.
Speaker 2: I'm taking a break from betting Kevin.
Speaker 1: We've heard that before.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, you're gonna have to pull a read if
Speaker 6: you really want to do that and call your son yourself.
Speaker 2: I would never do that. Hey, yeah, what's.
Speaker 1: Up, by the way, good news for you. Thunder clenched,
Speaker 1: I know, And Eddie said at the beginning, goes, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go out on the limb. They picked the Thunder.
Speaker 1: We're like, dude, they're the favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the favorite, like, there's a long road to
Speaker 2: get there.
Speaker 1: I can agree with that as well, but that's not
Speaker 1: a limb to pick the favorite. So he said, if
Speaker 1: you want to go on a limb, put something up,
Speaker 1: and he was gonna wear a woman's song. I still
Speaker 1: can if they don't win the championships.
Speaker 5: So aren't you wearing one right now?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Oh now, I'm saving it.
Speaker 1: Okay, lose for it.
Speaker 5: So chances looking pretty good.
Speaker 1: They did win. They look good. Kevin's we haven't talked
Speaker 1: about this as Celtics. They go out and it wasn't Achilles' injury.
Speaker 1: Tatum's not gonna be on the team at all. They
Speaker 1: probably gonna trade Drew Holiday all that thoughts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, next year it could be a long one for us,
Speaker 6: But I know we talked about it a little before
Speaker 6: I left. I'm all in if we're gonna if we're
Speaker 6: gonna sell, if we're gonna trade Drew, And I know
Speaker 6: some people are talking about trading Jalen.
Speaker 5: You can probably get a lot back for Jalen.
Speaker 1: No chance they try to do Jen.
Speaker 6: I don't think Sue either, But there's some people out
Speaker 6: there talking about it that I listened to sports Wise.
Speaker 6: And but if we're if we're like, you know, next year,
Speaker 6: we're done, then let's be done. I don't want any hope.
Speaker 6: I don't want a sliver of hope. If Tatum doesn't
Speaker 6: play at all, that's fine.
Speaker 1: There is no hope.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 2: How do you do that? How do you just like
Speaker 2: go into a season and being like, there's just oh.
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you. As an Arkansas Razorbacks fan.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you have you. You're not gonna start
Speaker 2: the season being like I'm just gonna watch every game.
Speaker 5: No, I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm gonna root. However, my expectations are, dude, we're
Speaker 1: gonna I know our ceiling. There's nothing out love more
Speaker 1: than the Razorbacks. But with the staff that we have
Speaker 1: in the team, that we have. We ain't gonna win
Speaker 1: more than six game seven max. Like I know that,
Speaker 1: and you know that. I know that, And anything more
Speaker 1: than that surprises you. I'll be happily surprised. There is
Speaker 1: no chance we don't have it. We don't have the
Speaker 1: coaching staff, we don't have the players. I saw where
Speaker 1: we're like the one of the lowest rated, like player
Speaker 1: ranking teams in the SEC. Like if you give every
Speaker 1: player a score at eighty six point seven and we're
Speaker 1: like third in the Sun Belt. If we're on the Sunbelt, No,
Speaker 1: you don't win the SEC games if that's the case,
Speaker 1: and it sucks. It sucks. Yeah, And nothing's gonna change
Speaker 1: at least I don't want hell.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's what I'm saying, Like this isn't something
Speaker 6: that's going to be last for five years or anything.
Speaker 6: But if we need to take a year off, step back,
Speaker 6: made a good big draft pick, maybe get somebody I
Speaker 6: don't know, free agent or trade because I think Porzingis
Speaker 6: might be gone to love the guy, but he just
Speaker 6: cannot stay healthy.
Speaker 1: You also have to move money.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And and Brad Stevens has been unbelievable since he's
Speaker 6: been GM for the last three four years, so I
Speaker 6: trust him. Whatever he does, I'm cool with. But I
Speaker 6: just don't want that. You know, hey, we could still win.
Speaker 6: The only thing that keeps me like, Okay, maybe we
Speaker 6: should still go in is the East. Next year, it's
Speaker 6: just like still going to be pretty wide open, especially
Speaker 6: if the Bucks get rid of y Honest, unless he
Speaker 6: stays in the East, it's like Miami, No Pacers are
Speaker 6: going to be really good again.
Speaker 1: Where the buck go, where the Bucks, excuse me, where
Speaker 1: Yannis goes won't matter a lot if they if they
Speaker 1: stay in the East. I think he'll go to a
Speaker 1: team though that gives him a chance to win, regardless
Speaker 1: he has said, and not that it matters fully that
Speaker 1: he wants to go to a team that has no
Speaker 1: state income tax interesting, which is Texas. I haven't heard
Speaker 1: that Texas and Florida. It doesn't mean it has to
Speaker 1: be that, but it could be a team like Miami.
Speaker 1: But listen, it's gotta be Houston, mostly because Houston actually
Speaker 1: has the draft capital to trade. It could even be
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. But I don't think they're gonna mess with
Speaker 1: what they have now because what they have now, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to have for years, especially Chet Sga
Speaker 1: and Jalen Williams. Those three they're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: keep for five years. They may have to move some
Speaker 1: of the other pieces, but yeah, it's yeah, the East
Speaker 1: is gonna be weird. Cleveland should be good again, and
Speaker 1: they'll lose just in time.
Speaker 5: Right, that's the thing, Like, Okay, man nixt will be
Speaker 5: good again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, interesting to see what they do too, because they're
Speaker 6: already you know, they haven't lost officially yet, but it
Speaker 6: just like the look that way, I know.
Speaker 5: But it's like Thibideau, is he gonna be here? Is
Speaker 5: kat gonna be here?
Speaker 6: All this stuff and it's like, so I don't know,
Speaker 6: a lot of things need to happen, but I'm on
Speaker 6: board with whatever we do.
Speaker 5: Just do it.
Speaker 6: Because I don't like having that little hope and then
Speaker 6: being like, you know what, now we're what drafting fifteenth,
Speaker 6: Tatum didn't really play it this year.
Speaker 2: Play at all.
Speaker 1: He needs a ballet ballet, vallet, no ballet. Tatum needs
Speaker 1: ballet like he.
Speaker 5: Needs to do ballet, recover, rehab, rehabs ballet.
Speaker 1: Herschel Walker used to do ballet, that's right, and now
Speaker 1: Nicobe Dean from the Eagles has said he's now doing
Speaker 1: ballet because he tore butller tendon during the playoff game
Speaker 1: over the Packers last year, and part of his rehab
Speaker 1: has been training with the Philadelphia Ballet Company.
Speaker 2: Wow, that patella is the like the kneecap, right.
Speaker 1: It's the but yeah, the patella tendon. I think it's
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's patella, but it's spelled patella.
Speaker 1: Okay, good. If it's spelled pateller and it's said patella, that's.
Speaker 5: Weird English language.
Speaker 1: It's really spelled peller. Yeah, it's got an orange because
Speaker 1: I know the patella, but I don't know what spelled
Speaker 1: the art.
Speaker 5: Well, now you get me thinking about I'm.
Speaker 1: Sure you're right. I know there's a patella, but maybe
Speaker 1: the patella or tendon is spelled.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it's still tended. Night is tender?
Speaker 1: Is that it's not the butatella though, it's got to
Speaker 1: be a different tendon than the patella aause the buttello is.
Speaker 6: The nieh my gosh too. Yeah, there's a patella, tella
Speaker 6: and a pateller.
Speaker 1: Okay, my gosh, Okay.
Speaker 2: You're already dog in the English language.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: Well, we can go down this list.
Speaker 1: So what's what's the patella tendon?
Speaker 6: The bateller tendon looks like it's on the outside of
Speaker 6: the knee.
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's not. The patella.
Speaker 5: Looks like the top of the knee.
Speaker 2: Very confusing, correct not.
Speaker 1: If you're a doctor and you study it.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 1: I said. There's way more flexibility and way more mobility.
Speaker 1: It's definitely something that's helping with rehab. You just feel
Speaker 1: a change immediately after you stretch. You're not as tight
Speaker 1: or sore. So uh, Nikobe Dean and Jason Tatum.
Speaker 2: Wonder if any of them like fall in love with
Speaker 2: the ballet like a show up in the Nutcracker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like the dancers give up football to pursue ballet.
Speaker 5: Forget football, dang into ballet.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to take a break come back with
Speaker 1: Jake Dickert, who is the head coach of Wake Forest football.
Speaker 1: This will be his first year at Wake Forest. He
Speaker 1: was at Washington State and built that program into a
Speaker 1: really good place, three bowl games in three years. Like
Speaker 1: Jake Dickert, I think you're gonna love Jake Dickert. We
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Speaker 1: And now our conversation with Jake Dickert. He was named
Speaker 1: the thirty third head coach of Wake Forest Football in
Speaker 1: December of last year. He has seventeen years of coaching experience.
Speaker 1: He was born in the eighties, so he's a young guy.
Speaker 1: He looks like a young guy.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: As of the hiring at Wake Forest, his record at
Speaker 1: Washington stadia a winning record, went to three Bowl games.
Speaker 1: He was a wide receiver at Wisconsin Stevens Point and
Speaker 1: he's kind of done it all. But he was known
Speaker 1: at Washington State as the guy who came in and
Speaker 1: stabilized that program and then one with consistency and then
Speaker 1: they got good. So really cool. Love talking with them.
Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at coach Dickert. Here
Speaker 1: he is Jake Dickert. Hey, coach. First of all, congratulations
Speaker 1: on the new job. You're much closer to us so
Speaker 1: we can now watch these games and not have to
Speaker 1: wait until like ten PM to watch the games from
Speaker 1: when your way out west. So congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 7: If you think the hard part is watching them, you
Speaker 7: should see coaching in them in the next day, trying
Speaker 7: to get ready for your next opponents. So it's a
Speaker 7: big challenge. But excited to be out here on the
Speaker 7: East coast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was thinking, because I'm gonna be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I was talking to Frank Raich yesterday who's coaching at
Speaker 1: Stanford and he's got to travel east a lot. Do
Speaker 1: you do you guys have to travel all the way
Speaker 1: west ever this year?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's actually odd. We don't do it in conference,
Speaker 7: but we go play kind of an old foe that
Speaker 7: I was used to at Washington State State. So we
Speaker 7: got to head over to Core Vallas this year and
Speaker 7: make that long trek. Fortunately, acc gave us a break
Speaker 7: where we got to buy a week after, so we
Speaker 7: kind of get that recovery. Going east to west isn't bad,
Speaker 7: but it's always is coming back and losing that time.
Speaker 1: Whenever you come into a new program like you did,
Speaker 1: and you I guess we're announced in December? Is that true?
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, okay, in late December. What do
Speaker 1: you do because again that's like holiday time as well,
Speaker 1: so like everything is confusing. We don't even know what
Speaker 1: day it is during that time. Like how quickly and
Speaker 1: how important is it for you to like try to
Speaker 1: have a relationship with some of the players that you
Speaker 1: want to maintain.
Speaker 7: I'll say this, Bobby. First off, you know, we've created
Speaker 7: this portal era of college football, and the first thing
Speaker 7: the portal did was kill Christmas. Right, there is no
Speaker 7: more kind of after season break for coaches, and it's
Speaker 7: kind of something that we've accepted. You know, when coach
Speaker 7: Classon retired late here, it was hard because by the
Speaker 7: time I got on campus, everybody was gone, right, So
Speaker 7: it was trying to you know, convince kids to stay
Speaker 7: a recruit kind of your own roster, you know, doing
Speaker 7: facetimes and zooms and family calls just like this. So
Speaker 7: you know, you know, as much as anybody being in entertainment, like,
Speaker 7: there's an in person personal vibe that you have to
Speaker 7: feel with people. So it was very hard, you know
Speaker 7: to kind of go navigate through that kind of challenging
Speaker 7: process and really put a roster together in a quick order.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like that would be tough. Did you
Speaker 1: make and can you make travel plans to go out
Speaker 1: and have in persons if they're home? Is that legal?
Speaker 7: Yeah? It is. It's just one of those things where
Speaker 7: you're kind of like prioritize and execute, like what is
Speaker 7: this one thing that we need to focus on now.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's retaining players, it's getting ready for the portal,
Speaker 7: it's building a staff. I mean, there's just all these
Speaker 7: different laundry lists of things that we chose to kind
Speaker 7: of do it through here at that moment, and then
Speaker 7: as soon as it opened back up, I got a
Speaker 7: chance to go out and visit with all the signees
Speaker 7: and do home visits and kind of go through that
Speaker 7: different type of process. But you know, the game has changed,
Speaker 7: especially with trying to you know, navigate, because as soon
Speaker 7: as the coaching change happens, the Sharks come in and
Speaker 7: everyone's trying to get your best players. There's this ten
Speaker 7: day window of kind of you're just trying to get
Speaker 7: to your feet back underneath yourself in a new deal
Speaker 7: and try to get everyone to believe in the process
Speaker 7: and what your vision is.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask a question, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be background to why I asked the question. There was
Speaker 1: a brief period of time where I was considering running
Speaker 1: for the governor of my home state of Arkansas, and
Speaker 1: I was actually being recruited. They have these these these
Speaker 1: companies that are these organizations that come and go, hey,
Speaker 1: we think you'd be a great fit to run, we
Speaker 1: think you can win, and so a little bit I
Speaker 1: was getting gassed up going maybe I do want to
Speaker 1: go be governor of Arkansas, because, like I love my
Speaker 1: home state. I think I could do a lot for it.
Speaker 1: And then it turned into, well, most of your day
Speaker 1: is being on the phone asking for money like that
Speaker 1: was most of the time, and I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, that does not sound appealing. Now when I
Speaker 1: look at your job and how different it is from
Speaker 1: today to three or four years ago, and have other
Speaker 1: friends that have our head coaches, different programs, how much
Speaker 1: of it is actually trying to find money now?
Speaker 7: Well, my greatest mentor is Craig Ball And the first
Speaker 7: thing he told me, he said, Jake, if you ever
Speaker 7: want to get out of coaching, become a head coach, right,
Speaker 7: because it is everything Sometimes besides sitting in those meeting rooms,
Speaker 7: the X is in and OS is more of a
Speaker 7: mentorship development role. When you're talking about the players. I'm
Speaker 7: a big, you know, guy on sports psychology and high performance.
Speaker 7: But when you're looking at the other side, especially in
Speaker 7: today's world at wake Forest and a lot of other programs,
Speaker 7: you got to you gotta raise money. I mean, there's
Speaker 7: a collective aspect, there's an nil aspect, there's a program
Speaker 7: fund aspect, there's a facilities aspect. There's there's just a
Speaker 7: lot of buckets that you've got to make sure you're
Speaker 7: maintaining and filling and you know, have done a lot
Speaker 7: of work in the last you know, five months since
Speaker 7: I've been here about building those relationships with the most
Speaker 7: important people in our program that you know, some are
Speaker 7: you know, former alumni, some are boosters, some are just
Speaker 7: a lot of different things that you know can help
Speaker 7: our program advance, because if you don't have those things
Speaker 7: in today's world, I mean, you're just you're sledding uphill
Speaker 7: in a in a big way.
Speaker 1: Do you ever like play golf and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody knows the whole time, like on whole sixteen you
Speaker 1: got to make the ask, but you play like fifteen
Speaker 1: holes and the guy's like, I know, coach about to
Speaker 1: ask me for money. And then you're like, so, Clint,
Speaker 1: we really could use your support. Like that's got to
Speaker 1: be happening sometimes too, right, Oh, it happens all the time.
Speaker 7: I Mean it's one of those things where I always
Speaker 7: say I'm a terrible golfer, but I'm a hell of
Speaker 7: a guy to driving the cart with right, So you know,
Speaker 7: the more you can get the cart, get all to
Speaker 7: come by and to keep them happy and fun and
Speaker 7: just really what I've learned though, it's just people are people, right,
Speaker 7: I'm in that arena because they're passionate about Wake Forest,
Speaker 7: they've already supported our football program, and you're just kind
Speaker 7: of showing them who you are as a person and
Speaker 7: what your vision is. So sometimes when it gets to
Speaker 7: that ask, it's a team ask. Right, I'm there, and
Speaker 7: they understand why I'm there and what they're doing, and
Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of follow up in real
Speaker 7: relationships are built off off those moments.
Speaker 1: I hate because I listen, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I'm a significant donor at the University of Arkansas. Like
Speaker 1: you know, once I got some fame and some money,
Speaker 1: Like the one thing I wanted to do in my
Speaker 1: life was to be able to give and win. We
Speaker 1: have won very much, but I give hope and one
Speaker 1: day we'll win. And that's a I know, like that
Speaker 1: questions coming if if I like I'm invited to do something,
Speaker 1: if it's like, well, probably before dessert comes, or like
Speaker 1: the seventeenth hole is when the ask is gonna come.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you guys' job it is again to mentor
Speaker 1: players and be the CEO, but it's also weird, you
Speaker 1: got to it's constantly like a money situation for all things,
Speaker 1: not just building facilities, which is what it kind of
Speaker 1: used to be. Like, do you still enjoy the head
Speaker 1: coach position as much as you did?
Speaker 7: I would say this, I'm still learning a little bit,
Speaker 7: you know, ours three years at the head coach position
Speaker 7: at Washington State and now obviously here at Wake Forest.
Speaker 7: It's it's always changing. And that's the thing that's crazy
Speaker 7: right now, Bobby about college football. It's just like just
Speaker 7: when you get settled in, like we're heading down like
Speaker 7: this set of rules, it's like we just love zig
Speaker 7: zagging and swerving, and you know, we have one of
Speaker 7: the greatest games like ever invented, not just in football,
Speaker 7: in college football it is different than NFL. We have
Speaker 7: to do a better job of preserving the integrity of
Speaker 7: the game and what makes it so special and what
Speaker 7: drives so many people to be so passionate about the rivalries,
Speaker 7: about their fans, about where they went to school. So
Speaker 7: there's a lot of different things that go along with
Speaker 7: all these things of college football and being a head
Speaker 7: coach and kind of learning a little bit on the fly.
Speaker 7: I mean, you look at my past you know, Bobby, Like,
Speaker 7: I was just got named the head coach at Washington State.
Speaker 7: Six months later the PAC twelve dissolves, right, So it
Speaker 7: was like one of those things, it's a lifetime, there's
Speaker 7: a dream come true. And I've been through nothing but
Speaker 7: kind of adversity. And you know, Washington State didn't get
Speaker 7: picked up to go into one of the new Power
Speaker 7: five leagues. Right, So all my time as a head
Speaker 7: coach has been, you know, kind of standing in this
Speaker 7: adversity circle that we've had to kind of power through.
Speaker 7: And that was part of the move down here to
Speaker 7: Wake for us.
Speaker 1: So I was doing some research that I did not
Speaker 1: know about you, and you'd played wide receiver right back
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin Stevens Point. Okay, so here's the crazy thing
Speaker 1: to me is you played wide receiver, but you're known
Speaker 1: for your defensive schemes. How did usually That's not how
Speaker 1: it happened. How did that happen?
Speaker 7: Well, it was It was an interesting story. So I
Speaker 7: got a math degree. I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 7: a high school math teacher. That was my passion going
Speaker 7: to education, be a high school coach. And I was sitting,
Speaker 7: you know, having a beer with my dad, on the
Speaker 7: back porch in the summer after I graduated, and he
Speaker 7: said the one regret he does he didn't do in
Speaker 7: life was try college coaching. So I quit my job.
Speaker 7: I got a GAT where I played, and the one
Speaker 7: thing that was out is my brother was on the team,
Speaker 7: so he was an offensive center. I played offense. But
Speaker 7: my head coach is like, you're not going to ga
Speaker 7: on the same side of the ball that your brother
Speaker 7: plays on. So he's like, go learn defense. I'll help
Speaker 7: your career. You'll get back to offense no problem, you know.
Speaker 7: So as a twenty three year old kid, I started
Speaker 7: learning defense. My biggest break came and I got a
Speaker 7: GA at North Dakota State the following year, and that's
Speaker 7: been an amazing tree of defense that has kind of been,
Speaker 7: you know, permeated through all all levels of college football.
Speaker 7: So I just fit my personality. I'm a math guy,
Speaker 7: solving problems. You know. It just kind of worked out
Speaker 7: as far as like my fit and I got up
Speaker 7: a chance to be under a lot of really great people.
Speaker 1: Do you ever, I don't know, because I would think
Speaker 1: you played wide receiver, but like you weren't never a linebacker,
Speaker 1: So I think I'd want to like get in and
Speaker 1: mix it up a little bit, just to see what
Speaker 1: it feels like. You know, you like put the path
Speaker 1: you're still a young guy, Like just a little bit
Speaker 1: just so you can like see, Yeah, it's rare that
Speaker 1: someone comes from the offensive side of the ball that
Speaker 1: ends up being a specialist on the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball. How much to numbers actually, you say, math
Speaker 1: and baseball notorious analytics? Right, Baseball more seemingly more than
Speaker 1: anyone else, although we do see it more in football
Speaker 1: now they've been put it on the screen. How much
Speaker 1: numbers matter to you play to play series to series
Speaker 1: a lot?
Speaker 7: But I always look at it more as like situational analytics. Right,
Speaker 7: there is so many differfferent things. I think that the
Speaker 7: casual fan doesn't understand about the head coach and managing
Speaker 7: a game and how you utilize the numbers. I mean,
Speaker 7: just as simple as something last year college football implemented
Speaker 7: a two minute warning. So the casual fan that's been
Speaker 7: seen in the NFL, no problem, okay, no issues. Now
Speaker 7: from a head coaching standpoint, Okay, when do you want
Speaker 7: to take your timeouts? You take them before the two
Speaker 7: minute warning. You save them till after. Analytics will tell
Speaker 7: you if you have three, you start taking them after
Speaker 7: two minutes and forty seconds left on the clock. If
Speaker 7: you only have two, you got to wait until under
Speaker 7: two twenty. There's a whole bunch of different numbers that
Speaker 7: think that, you know, the casual fan doesn't quite understand
Speaker 7: how do you utilize and maximize all these different type
Speaker 7: of things like never taking a timeout inside of two
Speaker 7: oh seven left on the clock because you want to
Speaker 7: maximize the two minute warning as a full timeout. So
Speaker 7: there's a million different of those analytical situations that end
Speaker 7: up in our game. And you know, the best coaches,
Speaker 7: I think are bulletproof in those situations that the p
Speaker 7: and their team is ready for them.
Speaker 1: Coach I worked for the NFL as well, and they
Speaker 1: have told me that I cannot call the two minute
Speaker 1: warning in college has to be called a two minute
Speaker 1: time out. And I just let you know, coach, I
Speaker 1: want you to I'll get you soon. It's called a
Speaker 1: two minute time out.
Speaker 7: I know they went big on that last year. I
Speaker 7: just I just try to go with what we know.
Speaker 1: Is that like a memo that gets sent out or
Speaker 1: just somebody just tell you it's just like you know.
Speaker 7: These ACC meetings, they're pack twelve meetings, like hey, you
Speaker 7: know it's a two minute timeout and they drill the
Speaker 7: refs in it, so you know they speak in all
Speaker 7: that same language. It's it is what it is. It's
Speaker 7: all the same thing.
Speaker 1: Do you have a position group that you oversee a
Speaker 1: little more than the rest, Well, I think.
Speaker 7: The biggest thing is you always have to stay really
Speaker 7: connected to the quarterback. It's obviously I like to tell
Speaker 7: our guys, you know, the biggest decision maker on game
Speaker 7: day isn't me, it's you, right, it's the quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 7: you got the keys of the car. You know, we
Speaker 7: sit there and I want to make sure you know,
Speaker 7: every Thursday before a game, you know, we have one
Speaker 7: of these big meetings where what's your favorite play? What
Speaker 7: do you like on third down? Be aware of these
Speaker 7: situations and pressure and red zone and you know, so
Speaker 7: just making sure that you know there's a trust being
Speaker 7: built between the head coach and that position at all times.
Speaker 7: I don't think you can ever once you have a
Speaker 7: specialty kind of coming through, like I was mainly safeties,
Speaker 7: defensive backs, linebackers. I always have one eye on those guys.
Speaker 7: You know, but my job now is really the mentality
Speaker 7: of the team.
Speaker 1: I want to ask about freshman when they come in
Speaker 1: because it's a different environment now, because it's hard for
Speaker 1: freshmen to play and than freshmen a lot of times
Speaker 1: will be upset they don't get to play it. The
Speaker 1: next thing you know, they're you know, they're you know,
Speaker 1: hopping in the portal. But you guys, and I think
Speaker 1: his name is jayshawnoffitt Is I say his name, coach, yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: like real deal. But freshman, what's your expectations for him?
Speaker 1: He's an offensive lineman too, which is a very difficult place.
Speaker 7: Well, it's an interesting topic, Bobby, just in all the
Speaker 7: college football because you know, when I played, and I
Speaker 7: was a Division three player, played for the love of
Speaker 7: the game. Was never going to feed my family through
Speaker 7: this game. And you know, if you red shirted, you
Speaker 7: carved a roll out your friendshman and sophomore year and
Speaker 7: you started your junior and senior year like we'd say,
Speaker 7: one hell of a career. Okay. Now, you know, guys
Speaker 7: come in and the red shirt or they don't play
Speaker 7: the freshman year and everyone's panicking, like we've built this
Speaker 7: microwave society where you want instant success, instant opportunity. It
Speaker 7: just doesn't work like that. I call this a slow
Speaker 7: cooker game sometimes, especially at offensive line, you need to
Speaker 7: put your ass in a slow cooker and develop. And
Speaker 7: you know, I'm sorry, that's the way our game is built.
Speaker 7: And I still believe, you know, some of the transferring around,
Speaker 7: they're certain good to it. But when you're learning new
Speaker 7: techniques and new coaches and all the time, and you're
Speaker 7: never you know, setting down and building roots, it's hard
Speaker 7: for you to develop as a football player. Right. I
Speaker 7: believe the numbers were there wasn't a single offensive lineman
Speaker 7: drafted that transferred more than one time, right, because you
Speaker 7: just you can't. Right. So there's a lot of things
Speaker 7: that go into this that I think are very important
Speaker 7: in trying to get young people and not just the
Speaker 7: young people. But you know it works today, Bobby. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's their whole environment that is created around him. Agents, families, aunts, uncles, trainers, like,
Speaker 7: there's a lot of people you know, are that are
Speaker 7: in these kids' ears that you got to make sure
Speaker 7: you're building real relationships with.
Speaker 1: So how do you have that honest conversation with a
Speaker 1: highly touted high school kid that's going to come in
Speaker 1: as a freshman, you know, like often who we're talking
Speaker 1: about now to go, Hey, we love you. We see
Speaker 1: a big future, do you say, but it's going to
Speaker 1: be tough year one as an offensive lineman to hop
Speaker 1: in and start.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a really cool clip out there. I love
Speaker 7: studying like the best, Like Mike Tomlin is one of
Speaker 7: the best. And one of the things he gave a
Speaker 7: big preson presentation to his team about is having realistic expectations.
Speaker 7: I don't care if you're a first round, seventh round pick,
Speaker 7: free agent, right, there's realistic expectations that we both need
Speaker 7: to have coming into this situation. And if you just
Speaker 7: think you're gonna come from high school in the wake
Speaker 7: forest and just dominate like you're part of the one percent, right,
Speaker 7: so you already are setting yourself up for mental failure
Speaker 7: because you don't have a realistic expectation, like of what
Speaker 7: it really takes to come in here and compete. Okay,
Speaker 7: when you're ready. My number one job is you're going
Speaker 7: to play freshman, senior, everything in between. But you've got
Speaker 7: to be able to set a framework, you know, for
Speaker 7: yourself and you approach it, and then let's have constant
Speaker 7: communication about where you're at, how you can grow and
Speaker 7: get better. I talk all the time, Bobby, failure is
Speaker 7: the best thing that can ever happen in these kids,
Speaker 7: because I don't learn about you when you're scoring touchdowns.
Speaker 7: I learn about you when you get your ass knockdown. Right,
Speaker 7: That's where I step in. That's where we know the flaws.
Speaker 7: That's where we know how you can grow as a
Speaker 7: man and as a football player. Right. So all these
Speaker 7: things are interwoven into the fabric of why I truly
Speaker 7: believe football is the greatest vehicle maybe ever created to
Speaker 7: develop men, and I think it's an amazing sport that
Speaker 7: we need to protect.
Speaker 1: I have three final questions for you. I do want
Speaker 1: to talk about the general manager role that a lot
Speaker 1: of schools have. Do you have one of a football
Speaker 1: and otweit for us?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're actually one of the first and twenty twenty
Speaker 7: two at Washington State to name a general manager is
Speaker 7: his name is Robert Schlagery. Actually gad for us when
Speaker 7: we were back at Wyoming and one of the biggest
Speaker 7: things of change here at WAKE was creating a whole
Speaker 7: what we call player acquisition department. I mean it's no
Speaker 7: longer just recruiting. I mean as general managers, it's director
Speaker 7: of player personnels. It's five scouts under them, it's three
Speaker 7: people just in the recruiting phase once we identify who
Speaker 7: we want, a whole intern you know, department kind of
Speaker 7: helping all these people out. So it is an interesting
Speaker 7: and different approach. I think we're professionalized and model, but
Speaker 7: you just can't say this is professional football and do
Speaker 7: the same things that they do, right, So there still
Speaker 7: is a difference and a kind of framework that I
Speaker 7: think makes each program a little bit unique.
Speaker 1: Two questions. The conclave and you'll see where this relates.
Speaker 1: But you know, they picked the pope, they go in it,
Speaker 1: it's all shut down, and the next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: they put up white smoke. We got a new pope,
Speaker 1: and this time it was American. Pretty cool. Now, when
Speaker 1: it comes to picking the captains, is that a team
Speaker 1: voted thing? And do you shut it down? White smoke
Speaker 1: come out? Like what's happening when you guys pick a captain?
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's always a little bit different team
Speaker 7: by team and year by year. You know, I think
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty two in Washington State. We had four guys.
Speaker 7: You know, I think they were just kind of you're
Speaker 7: feeling out your team. I think last year we had
Speaker 7: six guys, you know, kind of see how it shapes out.
Speaker 7: What I like to do, Bobby is, you know, we
Speaker 7: vote for position leaders, which I think then in turn
Speaker 7: become our leadership council. We train those guys like I
Speaker 7: read them books like The Twin Thieves. Right here, this
Speaker 7: is like our culture playbook. We go through it, and
Speaker 7: then from that group of people, you know, then the
Speaker 7: team after fall camps kind of votes on you know,
Speaker 7: who they want. We give them two votes, and you know,
Speaker 7: whether it's three guys, whether it's two guys. At one
Speaker 7: time I did a coaches pick because I thought there
Speaker 7: was someone that vitally needed to be in that room.
Speaker 7: So it's kind of a feel and a year to
Speaker 7: year thing on what kind of team you have.
Speaker 1: You don't have like a spy in there, though, you
Speaker 1: put someone in to actually tell you what's really happening.
Speaker 7: No, these are real bots. Okay, all right, I don't
Speaker 7: think that the coaches kind of just trump all this stuff.
Speaker 7: This is this is real voting.
Speaker 1: Give me your Mount Rushmore for your favorite musical artists
Speaker 1: of all time?
Speaker 7: Wow, what a what a question. Probably a little bit
Speaker 7: of recency bias. I've just kind of transition probably in
Speaker 7: the last ten years to country music. So right now
Speaker 7: it would be Luke, Colmbs, Morgan Wallen, you know, right
Speaker 7: right out the bat. When I grew up, I would
Speaker 7: say probably Eminem and then I'm gonna put like little
Speaker 7: Wayne in there. I kind of went through a phase
Speaker 7: of we kind of you know, mixing, mixing a whole
Speaker 7: bunch of different genres. So I did get a chance
Speaker 7: to see a George Strait concert that was kind of
Speaker 7: way up there is just find of a bucket list
Speaker 7: thing to do, so we're kind of knocking these off
Speaker 7: once I get a little bit of time, getting a
Speaker 7: chance to get out there and here's some music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell we were born around the same time, coach. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that's definitely Hey one like asterisk bonus question. Will you
Speaker 1: tell me about that book? I'm a big reader if
Speaker 1: you like it? Like why?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 7: First off, Steve Jones was actually a teammate of mine
Speaker 7: back in back at UW. Stevens point. The book is
Speaker 7: not about him, but it's about his teams. He ended
Speaker 7: up being one of the highly the most winning this
Speaker 7: high school football team ever in the state of Wisconsin.
Speaker 7: And I'm just a big believer in sports psychology. And
Speaker 7: without giving away the book, and I'll send you on
Speaker 7: Bobby the Twin Thieves. I love studying high performance and
Speaker 7: what holds people back, okay, and how we're going to
Speaker 7: bridge that gap. And the whole book is designed around
Speaker 7: two things are crushing kind of young people and performers today.
Speaker 7: It's the fear of failure, right, and they're not seeing
Speaker 7: it as a way to grow and get better, and
Speaker 7: we must fail to grow. But more importantly, the second
Speaker 7: thief is the fear of judgment. Right. I think a
Speaker 7: lot of young people today are paralyzed from the social
Speaker 7: media aspect of it. And what do my teammates think,
Speaker 7: What does social media think? What happens now? And it
Speaker 7: just holds people back from becoming the best versions of themselves.
Speaker 7: That's all I ask of our guys. Our staff are employed,
Speaker 7: whoever it is, and our standard is delivering your best,
Speaker 7: and we can't be held back by false narratives. Right.
Speaker 7: And there's so many different culture building examples throughout the
Speaker 7: course of this book, and there's great stories that I
Speaker 7: think are relatable, and you know, we kind of work
Speaker 7: through it and discuss it. But I think those are
Speaker 7: the two biggest things that I try to help people
Speaker 7: like bridge that gap and how they overcome these things,
Speaker 7: because I think we all grow up different, we all
Speaker 7: have our scars. I openly talk about mine and my
Speaker 7: failures and where I've learned and grown, so they don't
Speaker 7: see me as some shiny perfect object as being the
Speaker 7: head coach. So I think, you know, the more you
Speaker 7: can do that and relate to these guys, and I
Speaker 7: just think even reading them, just books like that, I
Speaker 7: think it all connects us in a special way.
Speaker 1: We have a girl on the show that every time
Speaker 1: she plays a game, it's not like we're competing for
Speaker 1: a scholarship, but she gets so tight. She's really smart,
Speaker 1: but she cannot play a game because she freaks out
Speaker 1: and gets so nervous. What advice would you give her?
Speaker 7: Oh man, that's a good question. You know, some of
Speaker 7: it is I've I've listened to some of your games,
Speaker 7: So there's some hard ones. There are some hard ones
Speaker 7: out there that are really tough. Obviously, Lunchbox doesn't have
Speaker 7: that issue.
Speaker 1: He does not have that issue.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's just he can just go out there and
Speaker 7: just say whatever. I just be confident. More importantly, like
Speaker 7: one thing I try to do and this doesn't relate
Speaker 7: to it. But be you right, be you align with us. Man.
Speaker 7: Just be the best version of yourself. Go out there,
Speaker 7: have fun, be able to have been, been able to
Speaker 7: laugh at yourself a little bit as you go throughout
Speaker 7: your journey, and I think it becomes obviously a well
Speaker 7: purposed vision of yourself.
Speaker 1: Coach. We really appreciate the time. I'm rooting for you
Speaker 1: guys this year. Yeah, super cool. I'm excited to see
Speaker 1: what wake Forest does. I don't ever root against wake
Speaker 1: Forest is a fun thing. Some teams I root against
Speaker 1: sometimes I never root against wake Forest, so it's easy
Speaker 1: for me to just hop in and root for you guys.
Speaker 1: So yeah, really appreciate the time. Good luck and looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing you guys next season.
Speaker 7: I keep up all the great work, go Dex.
Speaker 1: Thanks Coach. There's Forbess in the room now. Kevin, I
Speaker 1: have to say you're the only one that didn't get
Speaker 1: invited to go on the golf trip, but mostly cause
Speaker 1: you had twins. You can't go.
Speaker 5: There's no way, you're a fun When is it now?
Speaker 1: We're leaving now?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah I can't go. Guys, I do I have
Speaker 6: only been, I think once this year.
Speaker 2: But yeah, wasn't Brandon talking like that?
Speaker 5: What am I talking about? Heat? Do you ever golf
Speaker 5: in your spare time? So what's going on?
Speaker 1: Why you didn't get invited?
Speaker 5: Okay, I appreciate that we're going to a course.
Speaker 1: This guy like a ten month waiting period.
Speaker 2: I know, now you're rubbing it.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, we didn't need to throw that
Speaker 5: in there, but that's okay.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna play the full round. We're going to
Speaker 1: Paynes Valley, which is out outside of Branson, but it's
Speaker 1: part of the whole. Johnny Morris Big Cedar, uh they
Speaker 1: do is a PGA tournament course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnny Morris owns a Who's we who.
Speaker 1: Eddie Brandon, Brandon, my brother in law, DJ and my
Speaker 1: father in law.
Speaker 5: That's legit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't have any rules.
Speaker 7: Really.
Speaker 1: I was like, we bring cameras, like, do whatever you want.
Speaker 5: We're really you're here.
Speaker 2: We're gonna play without pants, all of it nice.
Speaker 1: And then we're playing. They have a of course they
Speaker 1: haven't finished building yet, but they have like eleven holes
Speaker 1: fully done. It's a part three. It's like the space.
Speaker 1: They say, it's like playing on the moon.
Speaker 5: What what? What does it even mean?
Speaker 1: Because you're all it's all in like over caverns and caves.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 6: Yeah, really like you're playing in the sphere in Las
Speaker 6: Vegas or something kind of Yeah, exactly like that actually.
Speaker 5: Guys going to Vegas.
Speaker 2: No, okay, exactly, but exactly.
Speaker 5: That sounds legit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're not doing but it's because you it
Speaker 1: was never an option.
Speaker 5: Well, thanks for letting know.
Speaker 2: We're helping you out because because you can't even make
Speaker 2: that ask, you choose so bad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta put in a lot more time before
Speaker 6: we get there.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like a different person since you had twins?
Speaker 5: Uh? Not really, and not in a bad or good way.
Speaker 5: I just don't.
Speaker 6: I just kind of like it's one of those things
Speaker 6: where the kids come and you're like, all right, now,
Speaker 6: we got to figure this out and you make your
Speaker 6: life adjustments and everything comes with it.
Speaker 1: But as far as a different person, no, what did
Speaker 1: the day feel like when you had the baby?
Speaker 2: It was wild.
Speaker 1: You knew it was twins, by the way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I knew it was twins. And you knew the day,
Speaker 6: knew the day, knew the time. I knew all that
Speaker 6: it was a scheduled sea section. The craziest part was
Speaker 6: they were like, hey, you're gonna hang out here for
Speaker 6: fifteen minutes while we go get her ready, get your
Speaker 6: scrubs on, and we'll bring you in and then we'll
Speaker 6: get going.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, coo, what are you so nervous?
Speaker 6: I was more excited than nervous, I think, and I
Speaker 6: was more nervous for her, because you want to get as nervous.
Speaker 2: But did you know do you know how that sea
Speaker 2: section works? Like what they do?
Speaker 5: No? And I never dove into it. She did.
Speaker 6: I did not because I didn't want to know them
Speaker 6: less I knew the better.
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, I'm good and uh. And then they
Speaker 5: bring me in like all right, ready for you.
Speaker 6: And I come in and I'm expecting, like you know,
Speaker 6: I walk in and there's you know, doctors getting ready
Speaker 6: and prepping and cleaning. They're going at it. They are
Speaker 6: they already started the surgery. They already started the surgery.
Speaker 6: Yet yeah, they're going at it I thought going up
Speaker 6: and down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, yeah, you're way happier than we thought
Speaker 1: you were at it, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I walking in, it's like a movie or a
Speaker 6: show where I just walk right in. The big old
Speaker 6: doors swing open, and it's these bright lights and doctors everywhere,
Speaker 6: and they're just performing on her.
Speaker 5: And one doctor looks at me and he's like, Kevin, you.
Speaker 2: Just keep saying the wrong.
Speaker 6: And then the one doctor looks at me, he's like
Speaker 6: your dad, Kevin, Like yeah, He's like, come sit over here.
Speaker 6: So I sat right next to her. She's covered up,
Speaker 6: you know her, there's like a sheet on her belly basically,
Speaker 6: so I can't see anything. I could look if I
Speaker 6: wanted to, absolutely not looking. So I'm right next to
Speaker 6: her and talking to her. She's holding my hand, you know,
Speaker 6: she's asking how's it going. I was like, it's going great.
Speaker 6: I'm asking her how she's doing. She's emotion she's you know,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of emotions going on, a lot of feelings.
Speaker 6: She can't obviously can't feel anything they number, but she
Speaker 6: can feel like certain pressures.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: And then at one point they like tilted her body
Speaker 6: on it because they had to get into a certain
Speaker 6: angle and it didn't last more than fifteen minutes.
Speaker 5: And they pulled the first baby out.
Speaker 1: Wow, what do they do when they pulled the parcel
Speaker 1: out handed to you?
Speaker 5: No, not handed, they toss.
Speaker 1: It to you. Yeah, say no, you're on a sports show,
Speaker 1: you get so they say go do yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah no.
Speaker 6: They pulled the baby out and then they bring them
Speaker 6: no her she was first, brought her and showed her
Speaker 6: us right over the tart basically, and then they were like, oh,
Speaker 6: this is the girl who is and we're looking at
Speaker 6: each other. We're like a girl I don't know, Like, well, no,
Speaker 6: what's her name? And we're like, oh, Penelope. So they
Speaker 6: had that and then two minutes later he came out,
Speaker 6: same thing, and they're crying. The babies are crying, and
Speaker 6: then they're just showing us and then they bring them
Speaker 6: over to the way station.
Speaker 1: They look like pink or green or anything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're all kinds of different colors. Pink for the
Speaker 6: most part. I got video I can show you now.
Speaker 2: We're good man, fine, Okay.
Speaker 5: You don't see anything, but it is. It's pretty wild.
Speaker 5: And they look big too.
Speaker 6: When they come out, and then they bring them over
Speaker 6: to the way station and you know, clean them up
Speaker 6: and everything, and I'm talking to her and she's like,
Speaker 6: you know, she's crying and she's emotional, and they called
Speaker 6: me over, you want to come see him for the
Speaker 6: first time, and then I'm like, yeah, of course. I
Speaker 6: walk over there, and they both weigh exactly five point
Speaker 6: eight five pounds and eight ounces, which is crazy. All
Speaker 6: the doctors and nurses in there are like, we've never
Speaker 6: had this before, twins, Like they're the exact same weight.
Speaker 6: And then the first time I look at him or her,
Speaker 6: you know, I start crying for the first time.
Speaker 5: And then they have me take a picture with the
Speaker 5: weight right behind him, and the baby's just screaming.
Speaker 6: And then I go over to the boy and the
Speaker 6: same thing, take a picture with him and his weight
Speaker 6: behind him. And then I go back to my wife
Speaker 6: and we just start talking and she's you know, we're
Speaker 6: just talking about how great it is. And then they
Speaker 6: bring the babies over wrapped up. They let us hold
Speaker 6: them right away as they're stitching her all up and everything,
Speaker 6: and twenty minutes later I was out of there, or
Speaker 6: we're out of there together.
Speaker 1: Golf course.
Speaker 6: That was and then yeah, then we go to a
Speaker 6: two hour waiting room, recovery room, and then we went
Speaker 6: up to our room. We were there for three days
Speaker 6: at the hospital and it was exhausting for sure, especially
Speaker 6: for her.
Speaker 5: I mean, geez, did you sleep?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where did you sleep?
Speaker 5: On a couch?
Speaker 6: They had a couch, but it was like a foot
Speaker 6: tom basically like this big old cushion in the back,
Speaker 6: folded down, and it was actually more comfortable than I
Speaker 6: thought it would be. And then she was in the
Speaker 6: bed the whole time. Luckily, they have and this is
Speaker 6: for any like new dad or parents out there. They
Speaker 6: have the nurse and the night nurses. So if you
Speaker 6: liked be like, hey, can you guys take the babies
Speaker 6: for a few hours and we'll sleep and they'll take
Speaker 6: them and then they'll bring them back three hours later so
Speaker 6: you can just sleep.
Speaker 1: What theos they bring them back though?
Speaker 2: Seventy? Pretty good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 5: Never really thought about that.
Speaker 6: It's a good thing I didn't take and so you
Speaker 6: went home went home. Yeah, I got home three days later.
Speaker 6: First night was rough. We tried to sleep in our
Speaker 6: room with them on the side of the bed. Oh man,
Speaker 6: and they were just you know, they would wake up.
Speaker 6: They wake up every couple hours and you try to
Speaker 6: feed them in the bed, but you're falling asleep as
Speaker 6: you're trying to feed them, and you're just like, this.
Speaker 5: Isn't good because you're gonna roll over on the baby. Maybe.
Speaker 6: So then we figured out after two nights, this isn't
Speaker 6: gonna work. You know, you're grumpy and you're you know,
Speaker 6: getting mad at each other because you're grumpy and you're tired.
Speaker 5: And then now we have the old tag team switch Arooo.
Speaker 6: I come in middle of the night, she stays up
Speaker 6: with them, and she goes up to sleep. So now
Speaker 6: I come in at two in the morning, and then
Speaker 6: she goes upstairs to bed, and then before work she
Speaker 6: was up there till like seven or eight, and then
Speaker 6: she come back down.
Speaker 5: And then we tackled the day together.
Speaker 1: And is one of them always crying?
Speaker 6: No, honestly, they're pretty good. Like it's still early, so
Speaker 6: I don't want to get ahead of myself, but the
Speaker 6: girl's been acting up a little bit the last couple
Speaker 6: of days.
Speaker 1: She's got a little attitude.
Speaker 7: Boy.
Speaker 5: I was like, I was like, you're gonna give your
Speaker 5: dad a heart attack.
Speaker 1: Over here she's got a tattoo.
Speaker 6: But they're both pretty dang good and we're we're happy
Speaker 6: about that. They don't really scream or cry unless I'm
Speaker 6: changing it or have the clothes off of them and
Speaker 6: they're really cold, then they just start screaming. This as
Speaker 6: soon as you put it back on them, they just
Speaker 6: they get quiet again, and you just feed them again
Speaker 6: and you put them down and off and rolling.
Speaker 2: Kevin told me that two AM is like, oh man,
Speaker 2: it's tough, like two AM feeding. Like they get a
Speaker 2: PlayStation lifesaver what I.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but like there's you don't really know there's enough
Speaker 6: time to do anything.
Speaker 5: Like I've tried to watch the show.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 5: You just don't get in the flow of things, you know.
Speaker 1: I hear. But Eddie used to just get on PlayStation.
Speaker 2: It's like he would hear you can hear the baby crying,
Speaker 2: like we'd be playing two K and you hear the
Speaker 2: baby crying in the background in the background.
Speaker 5: He's like, he's.
Speaker 1: Right, God, alright, back, there's two I know.
Speaker 6: So, I mean it takes a little over an hour
Speaker 6: to feed and to burn them and to change their
Speaker 6: diapers because there's two of them. So it takes a while.
Speaker 2: Is the feeding going all right? Like, I know that's
Speaker 2: the stressful time, Like you know, yeah, they're gonna latch?
Speaker 2: Are they not gonna latch? Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's mostly the breast smoke is
Speaker 6: what they're eating. Sometimes they lie, sometimes they don't. At
Speaker 6: first they weren't at all, but they're getting better at
Speaker 6: that and then now they're eating more, so that means
Speaker 6: they're sleeping a little bit longer, and they're growing and
Speaker 6: they're healthy. You took them to their first doctor's appointment
Speaker 6: and everything, and she's like, they look great.
Speaker 5: So that's all you want to hear at the end
Speaker 5: of the day.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 7: Great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how tired are you right now?
Speaker 5: I'm not that tired, but it's going to hit me
Speaker 5: for sure. Every day.
Speaker 6: It hits me in the afternoon, like just because it
Speaker 6: getting up there. I don't know, we always get up early,
Speaker 6: but even that much earlier your body just needs to adjust.
Speaker 6: And I'm only a week and a half in or so,
Speaker 6: so it.
Speaker 5: Hits me in the afternoon. That's why I take my nap.
Speaker 1: Did you ever feel overwhelmed? M If the answer is
Speaker 1: the answer is no, no, because that's usually oh god, yeah, immediately.
Speaker 6: No, even my dad and Alex, my wife. She was
Speaker 6: like when I was changing diapers and swaddling them in
Speaker 6: the hospital because she couldn't do anything for like first
Speaker 6: two days. She was just in bed recovering, and I
Speaker 6: was just watching the nurses, which wild is the nurses
Speaker 6: like they know what they're doing obviously, but they throw
Speaker 6: these babies around and they like, you know.
Speaker 5: What I mean.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, all right, well they're doing it, then
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 1: So with twins though, like, do you haven'tenough diapers?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had to buy a lot more. After three
Speaker 6: four days, I think.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're low now, okay we were, Yeah, we were low.
Speaker 6: Now we got I think six or seven new bags
Speaker 6: of ninety something. You go through so many because sometimes
Speaker 6: you go through three and one changing. It's just they
Speaker 6: keep going and they keep going. Oh the best though,
Speaker 6: staying out of the line of the fire. The boy,
Speaker 6: you know, because once he starts peeing.
Speaker 2: You got you're gonna learn to put a wipe on it.
Speaker 6: But the first time he was laying there and her
Speaker 6: dog was sitting in right like near his head, and
Speaker 6: she's got a little little, tiny dog, and he starts
Speaker 6: peeing and it nails a dog. Right, We're just trying
Speaker 6: to tell the dog. So we learned quickly. Luckily he
Speaker 6: got the front of it.
Speaker 1: But uh, do you have your role yet?
Speaker 5: Yeah? My role is to be the male figure.
Speaker 6: And this is what I've learned over the last couple
Speaker 6: of weeks is like, as a female, they are much
Speaker 6: better at nurturing, you know, than we are as males.
Speaker 6: We want to like play with them and I don't know,
Speaker 6: do like stuff with them, but all they need right
Speaker 6: now is just nurturing, just literally holding, feeding, changing and
Speaker 6: all that stuff, which I do. But the grandma's I mean,
Speaker 6: they could sit there for three hours with the baby
Speaker 6: in their hand, like I'm like.
Speaker 5: All right cool.
Speaker 6: So for me, I've known my role as a male
Speaker 6: to be more of like whatever you need, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm changing, I'm feeding, I'm cooking dinner, I'm cooking breakfast,
Speaker 6: whatever it might be. While the females love that nurturing role,
Speaker 6: so I've just kind of let them also take that
Speaker 6: and just kind of go in whenever I need it.
Speaker 1: But they're leaving too, the family members, so it's about
Speaker 1: to get a little more real.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Luckily one staying still, but it's she's.
Speaker 6: Still got like another she's got a place here now,
Speaker 6: so she's kind.
Speaker 1: Of come.
Speaker 2: Until they go to college.
Speaker 6: The best is of my dad there is just like
Speaker 6: you know, he's just typical like Grandpa.
Speaker 5: He's like used to hold him but like I'm not
Speaker 5: changing a typer or nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, congratulations, buddy, thank you.
Speaker 2: I think what was cool too, is like they look
Speaker 2: like you. So I was a little worried about of.
Speaker 1: Course they're bald or babies.
Speaker 6: What do you expect He's got more hair than I we.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Matt Castle, who we do a
Speaker 1: different podcast together called Lots to Say in both of us,
Speaker 1: and I totally eliminated Kevin from even communicating with him
Speaker 1: because even in a text of the group text, it
Speaker 1: was like, hey, we didn't respond.
Speaker 5: I know, it's like, dang.
Speaker 1: We we decided we are not even messaging Kevin even
Speaker 1: back unless he's like, can you help me my kid?
Speaker 1: Is I'm falling? If it wasn't that, we weren't messaging
Speaker 1: back because we wanted nothing to be in his world
Speaker 1: in this periphery at all about work. That's nice of
Speaker 1: you guys and so, but even you know this show.
Speaker 1: I emailed him finally on like what's Thursday, On like
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, I was like, hey, you're back yet, But
Speaker 1: when you're back here because he sent me some stuff
Speaker 1: before he left, I said, here's the things, but don't
Speaker 1: even look at this email until then. So I told
Speaker 1: you before you left, don't even think about work because
Speaker 1: you wanted to still think about work. Do you think
Speaker 1: you could have thought about work?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you think so?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well, okay, you might. You could probably relate to this too.
Speaker 6: Some might struggle with at the beginning. For sure, is
Speaker 6: like when you're gone, like you almost feel I know this,
Speaker 6: this is not a healthy thing. But you're like, well
Speaker 6: what if I'm gone for two weeks? And like the
Speaker 6: podcast as well, and then like they're like, you know what, Kevin,
Speaker 6: we don't even need you. Yeah you know, And I
Speaker 6: literally I literally had a dream like that where the
Speaker 6: rating has been better than ever exactly.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to tell you, but then.
Speaker 6: That starts going through your head and I'm like, no,
Speaker 6: I gotta get back, I gotta get back. But after
Speaker 6: a few days and everything, I was fine. I was
Speaker 6: also locked out of my work email, which helped I
Speaker 6: wasn't even allowed to sign in.
Speaker 5: They kicked me out. No way, I did not know.
Speaker 6: I hard did that and I couldn't even So was
Speaker 6: the email I sent you to your work email?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I didn't even see it until I could
Speaker 5: get back here.
Speaker 1: Perfect because I wrote on there, do not look at
Speaker 1: this until it's time to get back into email.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's great.
Speaker 1: I get locked up because I said that because I
Speaker 1: do run the company, the whole company, when I wrote
Speaker 1: it in the email, you can look at this until
Speaker 1: it's time to be over. Huh.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I didn't know that was a thing until like
Speaker 6: two days in and I was like, wait, I can't
Speaker 6: sign and then all of a sudden I realized, so
Speaker 6: I can't get into anything.
Speaker 1: Did you happen to watch the Brett farbre documentary while.
Speaker 5: You're yes, have you guys seen it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh have you talked about it or anything?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We talked about it, talking about it freely, and uh.
Speaker 6: It made me, I mean, like so many others, he
Speaker 6: was a hero of mine, you know, growing up, especially
Speaker 6: when nineties baby and my first suit ball remember is
Speaker 6: actually them whooping on the Patriots.
Speaker 5: But Brett Faarr was awesome. Great to watch.
Speaker 6: He got a little sour with me when he started
Speaker 6: doing the whole retire unretired, kind of like Roger's thing.
Speaker 5: But I still love the guy. I loved him as
Speaker 5: a quarterback.
Speaker 6: And then you always hear you know, he's not the
Speaker 6: best person in This whole scandal came out a few
Speaker 6: years ago and then I watched this and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 6: this guy is awful, awful and like it put. I
Speaker 6: told my wife and I was like, this is somebody
Speaker 6: I looked up to my whole life, and like, I
Speaker 6: can't stand now he's a hero of mine and now
Speaker 6: that entire like legacy that I had built in my
Speaker 6: head and took me a while to even get there.
Speaker 6: Pretty much the whole documentary, I finally realized, you know what, actually,
Speaker 6: don't you should.
Speaker 5: Not like this guy?
Speaker 1: Com scombag, Yeah like that.
Speaker 2: Did you know that he never met the girl that
Speaker 2: was wild? That was wild to me too, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because I would have thought they had met and flirted
Speaker 1: or he liked it was like, oh, I like that,
Speaker 1: and then tracked her number down because he met her,
Speaker 1: And then it was a disgusting pick not that he
Speaker 1: had never.
Speaker 5: Ye like he interviewed him or I don't know.
Speaker 1: That was his introduction to her, Like here's it makes
Speaker 1: you wonder how many other people he did that too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure that wasn't the first time. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: just based off how humans work, I'm sure he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I have this great idea, but for the first time ever,
Speaker 1: for this one girl, here's a picture on my penists, idea,
Speaker 1: try it.
Speaker 6: And he's so dumb, like the text messages and the voicemails,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, you're such an idiot too, Like that's
Speaker 6: when you know you're just arrogant and you think the
Speaker 6: world revolves.
Speaker 2: That's the theme, right, that's the theme of the documentary
Speaker 2: of just like when you're in that position you're a
Speaker 2: god and you can do no wrong, and you you
Speaker 2: act like that. You see.
Speaker 1: Sean Camp's in trouble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Yeah, he's he's waiting to be sentenced. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's convicted.
Speaker 1: He pleaded guilty to two men sitting in a car
Speaker 1: shooting at the two men sitting in a car in
Speaker 1: a parking lot.
Speaker 2: Was heard didn't know much about it, but the way
Speaker 2: the story goes is that his truck got robbed and
Speaker 2: they stole all kinds of things, jerseys, signed jerseys, just
Speaker 2: things that he had in his truck, including his cell phone,
Speaker 2: which he was able to track. So he tracked the phone.
Speaker 2: It led him to a car that was parked at
Speaker 2: the mall. There's two dudes in it there they are
Speaker 2: the thieves, and he says he pulls up and somebody
Speaker 2: in the backseat of that car shoots at them first,
Speaker 2: and then Sean Kemp returns fire.
Speaker 1: Any video evidence to support that claim, because I feel
Speaker 1: like if there was, he wouldn't have pleaded guilty.
Speaker 2: I think he's putting guilty to taking the shots. He's saying,
Speaker 2: I had a gun and I did shoot at them,
Speaker 2: but they shot at me first.
Speaker 1: But if they shoot first, isn't it self defense after that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: unless you're not supposed to have the gun, right, And
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a fellon, so he could have
Speaker 1: a gun if he's not a fellon. He'll be sentenced
Speaker 1: in August.
Speaker 2: And that's crazy too to me, like that, your your
Speaker 2: cases done, You've already played it guilty, and now you've
Speaker 2: got to just sit and wait for a whole month
Speaker 2: to see how long you're gonna be in prison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, different different trial times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, imagine what goes through your head.
Speaker 1: One other thing, real quick. Memorial Day weekend was us
Speaker 1: last weekend and Eddie's coaching and watch the six year olds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my son's a basketball team.
Speaker 1: Yeah ye old yeah, I didn't know you had practiced
Speaker 1: our memoriald at weekend.
Speaker 2: Look, dude, I came on here and said, I said, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't. We're probably not gonna win whatever.
Speaker 2: They're six year olds, no big deal. I've seen my roster.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: We have ten kids on the team. I would say
Speaker 2: eight of them are ballers. Two of them are just young.
Speaker 2: They'll be good eventually, but they right now, they just
Speaker 2: don't have the basic skills of basketball. They will be
Speaker 2: good because they're athletic. After meeting my team, I'm convinced
Speaker 2: that we're going to win the whole thing. So I
Speaker 2: don't care of its Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 1: There's six fourth of July. Families can't have to drive
Speaker 1: them there. Yeah, I called a practice. I know that's
Speaker 1: the dumbest thing.
Speaker 2: Because we practice on Sundays and it doesn't matter if it's
Speaker 2: Memorial Day weekend. I called a practice on Sunday and
Speaker 2: four kids showed up and I'm like, you guys are
Speaker 2: my four starters? It was and one dad he pulls that.
Speaker 2: He came out a little lady's like, you know, man,
Speaker 2: I was surprised that you was like, wanted to do
Speaker 2: a practice on Sunday light. We want to win, don't we.
Speaker 1: He was like, like, I feel you and I understand
Speaker 1: your sentiment completely. If there were sixteen or seventeen six no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I know if there were sixteen or seventy because I
Speaker 1: could drive themselves and their whole family doesn't have to
Speaker 1: not have vacation or have to change their plans to
Speaker 1: bring their kids.
Speaker 2: There is one family that has to drive an hour
Speaker 2: and a half.
Speaker 9: They show up, they were there startry practice or the starter,
Speaker 9: and their kid is awesome.
Speaker 2: We're all that why he's awesome.
Speaker 1: But we're all four of the kids that showed up awesome.
Speaker 2: There's one that he.
Speaker 1: Gets to start into.
Speaker 2: He started that.
Speaker 1: I don't think he analyzed kids who couldn't come on
Speaker 1: Royal Day because their parents already had plans to go
Speaker 1: to town.
Speaker 2: I gonna take it seriously. I won't take the starting
Speaker 2: lineup serious.
Speaker 1: Tell them there is nobody more unhealthily competitive than me.
Speaker 1: And even I'm like, there's six and it's a holiday weekend.
Speaker 2: You know, like before and after practice or even before
Speaker 2: the games, like we have a little huddle in Little
Speaker 2: pow Wow, and most most of the time the parents
Speaker 2: don't come to the power. I can literally just talk
Speaker 2: to the kids about anything we talk about, like what
Speaker 2: did you do this weekend? What's your favorite food? Like
Speaker 2: introduce yourself to the players whatever. I might talk to
Speaker 2: me and be like, how important do you want this?
Speaker 2: But they're six, and then I want to.
Speaker 9: Tell them too, like if you even know what the
Speaker 9: word important means, right, I have to spell it out
Speaker 9: for them. Yeah, but I want to tell them too,
Speaker 9: like tell your parents how much you love this game,
Speaker 9: tell your parents how much you want to be a practice,
Speaker 9: tell your parents that you don't want to be late
Speaker 9: to practice.
Speaker 2: Boom, you're in charge. I'm gonna tell the kids you're
Speaker 2: in charge of your destiny.
Speaker 1: But that's not true. They're six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, say you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: They still pee the bed for the most part.
Speaker 7: Right, you're right it, But I.
Speaker 1: Don't love it cause I think there's a line. But
Speaker 1: you got to build that.
Speaker 2: Oh, whoa, whoa, you're a new dad. What do you?
Speaker 7: What do you?
Speaker 2: What do you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I probably would have purposely not gone to practice,
Speaker 6: absolutely just to be like, this guy really wants to
Speaker 6: do this on the Memorial weekend.
Speaker 1: They're the first grader.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I'm unhealthy and I STI would have
Speaker 1: been like their first grader, what the heck's happening here?
Speaker 2: You wouldn't You wouldn't hold a practice.
Speaker 1: I would have called a voluntary voluntary shoot around for
Speaker 1: anybody on the team that wants to come.
Speaker 5: That's a that's a good goal.
Speaker 2: I mean I was already banking on that. If like
Speaker 2: only two kids showed up, we're.
Speaker 1: Not making That's what I would say. If you have
Speaker 1: a voluntary shoot around for anybody that still wants to come,
Speaker 1: We're going to have a voluntary practice.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you guys aren't traveling this weekend, coming out,
Speaker 6: get some shots in.
Speaker 2: No, I did say if you're available, No, you had
Speaker 2: a practice, You didnt And.
Speaker 5: You wanted to see their commitment.
Speaker 1: Yes, they got for not coming. We're done.
Speaker 2: You watch, We're gonna win the whole thing. Dude, with
Speaker 2: these four players.
Speaker 1: You watch with these four players, the commuted startups. That's
Speaker 1: the one at all, because they didn't come. Only four.
Speaker 1: You show up, only four. You play it where you guys.
Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. We will see you Monday. Kevin, congratulations,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Eddie, Brandon Ready to head off.
Speaker 2: Let's go have.
Speaker 5: Fun boys, do you want to go?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: No? No?
Speaker 6: I bring the twins, Yeah, bring them on, yeah, I
Speaker 6: should huh ye, get them started early.
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