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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is no match for football Baby.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another additionally Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansens, and I have joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: about boys. Hey, Dan, that it is happening. What's happening?

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Speaker 1: No Cessler? Again? He is in the desert and I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. I actually didn't have a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to Mark right before he left and

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Speaker 1: never asked any questions. And then he's texting me a

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Speaker 1: couple of times over the last day or so, and

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Speaker 1: I've never followed up with him, like, Oh, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing out there? All I know is that he's

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the desert. He's in a hole

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Speaker 1: in the desert. He's with his family. Can't be getting

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Speaker 1: into too much trouble with a couple of little boys around.

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Speaker 1: This sounds like in the desert right now, although I

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Speaker 1: can kind of imagine the boys go to sleep and

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Speaker 1: then Cessler just wandering in the desert maybe making sounds

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Speaker 1: like that wolf drinking some of Grandpa's cough medicine as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so big, This is our big, Big Week nine preview

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Speaker 1: show where we get into all the games on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We got a nice slate of games, a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of tough games to pick. I thought, West,

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Speaker 1: you didn't feel the same way. But I feel like

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of evenly matched teams going against

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Speaker 1: each other. But I guess that's the NFL in general. Uh,

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Speaker 1: In most weeks, about four hundred four and three teams

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Speaker 1: right now. So I had special insight this week. Knew

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Speaker 1: it for more, just something from deep within. It was

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Speaker 1: almost like a well spring like Sessler has on a

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Speaker 1: normal week. I had that this week, this is you need.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say you need. I think you're nine

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Speaker 1: games behind me. I am the match shop of game pickers.

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Speaker 1: You need a lot of pick sixers. Um No, you

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Speaker 1: need a big week. You could do the chip away route,

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Speaker 1: but on some level you need one of those weeks

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Speaker 1: three or four. I don't know. It's not gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to think next week we're gonna stick a fork

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Speaker 1: in some teams. On the podcast, I might be sticking

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Speaker 1: a fork in West and his picks. Greg kind of

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Speaker 1: laughed at my plan, which revolves around going undefeated this week,

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Speaker 1: picking every single game correctly, and using that as a

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Speaker 1: springboard into into the ring. That would make a statement.

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Speaker 1: I like that, and Greg, I am in first place.

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Speaker 1: In case you didn't know, it's not easy playing from ahead.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm used to it. Uh, did it? Done

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Speaker 1: it all last year? A lot of this year. We'll

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Speaker 1: see how you was firing shots at me West I

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Speaker 1: think you were maybe away from your desk at the time.

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Speaker 1: He was firing shots at me downstairs that I was

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Speaker 1: like breaking down my hero pick. Oh. I was there

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Speaker 1: because I remember you were pretty much breaking your hero

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Speaker 1: picks down in divorce. Now that Damn is doing well,

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Speaker 1: he's really into it. Before he didn't care the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. And I countered by calling Greg has

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Speaker 1: been in the world of picks. It's fun. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. We all have fun together. I wish

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Speaker 1: the two of you put bickering so much. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: would totally kidding. Oh, that was the podcast listener that

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Speaker 1: we lost. Who tweeted that anyway, still in mourning for

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Speaker 1: that listener. So we're gonna get to all the Sunday

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Speaker 1: games before that. Of course, we're gonna go, Uh, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna go and move ahead to the future and speak

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Speaker 1: with the people. Uh the B team I believe of

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and Chris Westling. I don't think you're B team.

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Speaker 1: I just want that to be uh put out there.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler self proclaimed any team he was on to

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Speaker 1: be the eight team. You guys are he is also

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Speaker 1: part of the B team. It seems like a very

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Speaker 1: unmarked thing to do. That's that's why I like it

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Speaker 1: so much. It's so out of character from Mark to

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Speaker 1: But anyway, let's go to the B team to break

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Speaker 1: down that great Thursday night matchup between the Panthers and

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Speaker 1: the Saints. Take it away, boys, Thank you, Dan and Uh.

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Speaker 1: I got some bad news for you. Yere hero pick

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Speaker 1: went up in flames. The New Orleans Saints really took

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Speaker 1: Kara Carolina to ten, took control of the NFC South.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, your team, you're a super Bowl prediction team.

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Speaker 1: They're back. I'm no longer backing away from the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl prediction. They have their next three games that home

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Speaker 1: the most welcoming schedules in December, they have Falcons and

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers to end the season. Well, yeah, West, I rarely

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Speaker 1: come on, why can't they They They're almost unbeatable at home,

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Speaker 1: and they do look much more complete. And I think

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Speaker 1: Mark Ingram, your boy controlling the clock. Back to back

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Speaker 1: think Ingram has finally earned Sean Payton's trust. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: he was just all over the place high tonight. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: difference now is instead of having one of the top

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Speaker 1: some serious holes like the offensive line. The wide receivers

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin was a great pick, but you know he'll

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Speaker 1: have a dropper too, He's still a rookie. Ten targets

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Speaker 1: having a Pro Bowl type of year for New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Shut Down your boy Jordie Nelson last week. Yeah he is.

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Speaker 1: Saints now, But I don't know. If I ever was

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Speaker 1: in I picked him to win the division, but everyone did.

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Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if they don't win the division now.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers have won one of their last seven games,

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Speaker 1: three five and one On the year, the Saints are

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Speaker 1: four and four. They're in sole possession. They have five

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Speaker 1: now where it'd be a pretty big upset for them

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Speaker 1: not to win the division. And really the only way

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Speaker 1: they don't win the division is if Carolina goes into

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Speaker 1: the Superdome and wins a game. Because Atlanta is not competing,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a home game in New Orleans in January, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're celebrating. Dan's not celebrating missed this pick, but we'll

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Speaker 1: a great show. Alright, So Thursday night is in the books.

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Speaker 1: Now we look ahead to Sunday and a great Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And if we're gonna start talking about the games of Sunday,

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Speaker 1: number I'm gonna throw guests out there Manning Brady seventy

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Speaker 1: great iconic battle between two of the greatest quarterbacks, not

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Speaker 1: just of their generation but any generation. And West. You

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Speaker 1: see the playoffs. I said, I'd love to see Pat's

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Speaker 1: saying he wasn't great. I'm I look, he's We do

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Speaker 1: the quarterback rankings every week, he's fourth in the league.

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Speaker 1: What more do you want, buddy. All I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: that that the first half of the Steelers game was

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Speaker 1: everything you needed to know about Andrew Luck. He missed

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Speaker 1: open throws on the first two drives. On third down

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Speaker 1: to end the drives, he throws a pick six. Then

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Speaker 1: he makes six unbelievably unbelievable plays the rest of the half.

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Speaker 1: You can't take him down on a sack. When Jason

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Speaker 1: Worlds has a clean shot at him, when Timmins says

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Speaker 1: a clean shot, he's like indestructible. And then he has

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Speaker 1: a great two minute drive and at the end of

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Speaker 1: the half you've got twenty points. So that's everything that

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is. But Breeze and those other guys that

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Speaker 1: maybe not Breeze, but they're not making those early mistakes

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Speaker 1: to put him in the hole. And they're also not

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Speaker 1: making the throws Andrew Luck making to take him out

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Speaker 1: of the hole. We got way after. Now, this is

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Speaker 1: the part of the show when when you guys fight

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Speaker 1: or debate, and Cessli's here, we make eye contact like

446
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Speaker 1: two young children that their parents are fighting in the

447
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Speaker 1: marriage is crumbling, and and we share a moment where

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Speaker 1: we feel on our safe tree together. And that's how

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Speaker 1: I was just alone in the room and you guys

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Speaker 1: just firing away everybody. It's like it's it's like a

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Speaker 1: tornado coming through towning. You had to go to the

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Speaker 1: basement alone. We're like like a couple that kind of

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Speaker 1: gets off on yelling Attie Day, you know what. I'm alright,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, how do we pick this game? I think

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Speaker 1: we all took the Colts. We did, Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: one of those I marked New York and I changed

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Speaker 1: my mind. I would have had now, but I believe

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Speaker 1: in it. I believe the Colts. We have hero picks

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Speaker 1: and coward picks. Sorry where you fall on this one?

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Speaker 1: All right? Moving on, So that is that time of

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Speaker 1: the show. Let's get into the picks. As we were

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Speaker 1: just we're just talking about hero picks and unfortunately coward picks.

463
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Speaker 1: Greg that every week there's picks where we're all on

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Speaker 1: one side of the game except for one of us,

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Speaker 1: and that person stands alone getting behind a team that

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Speaker 1: they believe will win against all odds. We call this

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Speaker 1: defend your here row, defend your hero z handsome hack

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Speaker 1: a little aggressively. Have we even talked to TV. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in this show, and what's going on, guys, something that happening. Attention.

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Speaker 1: You guys are too you guys are too ut into it.

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Speaker 1: I was intense, Yes, and while that was happening, I

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Speaker 1: was I am in t D saying we need to

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Speaker 1: get some bunsen burner blowtorch. He's like, hey, fellas, listen,

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Speaker 1: I don't like to use that element in the video

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Speaker 1: part of the podcast. I'm like, come on, man, the

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Speaker 1: curtain man phoning back the curtain because we need some

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Speaker 1: buns and burner blowtorch. A we gotta work, you know,

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Speaker 1: video and audio. It's two different mediums. By the way,

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Speaker 1: clearly if you're listening to this, you can check out

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Speaker 1: the video those last two game previews on NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com slash podcasts. Yeah, and then if did they throw

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Speaker 1: him on NFL Now too, Yes? NFL Now Wow, what

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Speaker 1: a platform with all sorts of content and uh, NFL

484
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Speaker 1: Now NFL, NFL teams your way, how you want it.

485
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Speaker 1: I want it now. I for one, have been thoroughly

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Speaker 1: enjoying NFL Now this week. You found I found some

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Speaker 1: great from Bucky Brooks and our friend of the podcast

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Speaker 1: b J Well, my friend of the podcast. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what he's he's a nice guy. I will

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Speaker 1: I will give him that. I saw nay Burlson in

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Speaker 1: the the commissary here we call it the huddle. Was

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Speaker 1: he wearing handcuffs on his jeans handcuffed jean belt or

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Speaker 1: were they actual handcuffs? There was? It looked like fake handcuff.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's like the security guard on the campus here.

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Speaker 1: We don't even know anyway when we're talking. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is the defend your Hero segment because Henry Handsome

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Speaker 1: Hank let us know. So let's get into it, and

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Speaker 1: we'll start with Chris Wesling has two hero picks today,

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Speaker 1: including one might as well start with this one we

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Speaker 1: touched down in a little bit on Wednesday show. To me,

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Speaker 1: it felt like a suicide hero pick, uh for a

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Speaker 1: guy in desperation mode. He takes the New York Jet

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Speaker 1: losers of seven straight and tons of internal strife and

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Speaker 1: uh criticism around the team. Michael Vick, moving into the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback roll, fresh off his four fumble interception performance

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Speaker 1: and relief of Gino Smith, West thinks, with their backs

507
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Speaker 1: against the wall, with everybody in the world against them,

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Speaker 1: the Jets upset the Chiefs at Arrowhead, Chris Wesley defender

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Speaker 1: hero any stats to back this up, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Sessler route here. Look, I'm going with my instincts. As

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Speaker 1: I explained on the last podcast. When everybody all the football,

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Speaker 1: Cognor saidy or on one side, Wow, I have never

513
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Speaker 1: said that word in my life. I've read it. That's impressive.

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Speaker 1: When everybody thinks they have it figured out, there's the

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Speaker 1: sound drops. There's unanimous agreement in America and throughout the

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Speaker 1: world that the Jets are such a hot mess, dumpster fire.

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Speaker 1: They can't do anything right. That's usually the week when

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Speaker 1: they win, not just the Jets, but any team. For

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Speaker 1: a Week seven against Greg pointed out some how bad

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Speaker 1: Vic has been playing. The fumbles are awful turnovers. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I expect him to do that every game.

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Speaker 1: I thought he moved the ball a little bit. They

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Speaker 1: got Percy Harvin and Eric Decker and Ivory. They actually

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Speaker 1: have some weapons in New York's offense for the first

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Speaker 1: timing years. I think Kansas City's an average team, maybe

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Speaker 1: right for the picking. They're usually what is going on here?

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Speaker 1: They're in a close game every week, aren't they? West.

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Speaker 1: What am I holding in my hands right now? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It is the two thousand four teen season

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Speaker 1: Week nine research notes that you love so much. I

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Speaker 1: got a great note. I do think you guys will

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Speaker 1: like this. The football heads that you are, Alex Smith,

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Speaker 1: you're the host of a football podcast. Well you are too,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. You're You're not at

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Speaker 1: your guys level. You guys are true football heads. Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith is not throwing a touchdown past greater than five

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Speaker 1: yards this season. In the air of thirty eight qbs

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Speaker 1: with at least dirty such pass attempts, Smith is the

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Speaker 1: only one without a t d greater than five air yards.

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Speaker 1: Has he thrown any pass over five years? And they

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Speaker 1: still get it done some of the nine touchdowns on

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Speaker 1: the season. You're you're crazy. This would be the biggest

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Speaker 1: upset of any hero pick or prediction this year, according

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Speaker 1: to the numbers. If you're into that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: This there's a reason why sometimes everyone agrees on something.

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Speaker 1: It's because it's obvious and it's gonna happen. It's like

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Speaker 1: no one took the Raiders are sorry. Who's in Seattle

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Speaker 1: this week? The Raiders in Seattle. No one's taking that

549
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Speaker 1: game because it'd be crazy to do so. The Chiefs

550
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Speaker 1: are a really good team. If not for the Jets,

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Speaker 1: all of our picks would be way better. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you did, Dan to dirty the water that

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Speaker 1: we all have been picking the Jets. We picked them

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Speaker 1: against the Bears, we picked them against the Bills. This

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Speaker 1: has been one of the worst teams consistently in the league.

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Speaker 1: Week isn't the believing You guys are way too nice

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Speaker 1: to dance the same way with Westland Browns. You guys

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Speaker 1: are so look Dan in the face and like, you know,

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Speaker 1: gino about it. I kind of disagree with Dan. I

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Speaker 1: will flame the Jet at this point. Makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: We had a week we had a week one lunch

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Speaker 1: proposition where Mark said the Jets will have a winning record,

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Speaker 1: and I was the only one that took it. No,

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Speaker 1: that's the chill is we all got on board with

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Speaker 1: the Jets after Week one. I don't know why we did,

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Speaker 1: because even that Week one game was they did not

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Speaker 1: play well and they barely beat the Raiders at home.

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Speaker 1: But we all we were all pumped up to the

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Speaker 1: fact we're going back to the Sandwich propositions. I laid

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Speaker 1: out a proposition, will Michael Vick started game this year?

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Speaker 1: Will Gino Smith start sixteen games? And nobody took me

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Speaker 1: up on it because everyone thought Gino was gonna start

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Speaker 1: games were idiots. I don't know that. To me, we

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Speaker 1: just had a complete brain fart with this team. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, what we were saying. I do want to

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Speaker 1: say one thing on this On this side team, they

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Speaker 1: play great team defense. The old Jets coordinator Bob Sutton

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Speaker 1: study shut Jets on Jets crime here going on. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, one player keeps standing out to me,

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Speaker 1: This guy Josh Muaga on the Chiefs. He kind of

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Speaker 1: replaced Derrick Johnson. I don't know. He seems to be

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Speaker 1: flying around every week. Maybe I'm crazy. Think you might

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Speaker 1: watch watch a little Josh Muaga Sunday you're watching this game,

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Speaker 1: and and watch if Michael Vick bombs, which could happen. Um.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what the Jets do if they keep going

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Speaker 1: to They have no reason to go to him because

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Speaker 1: they're one at seven that he's not the quarterback of

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Speaker 1: the future. It makes more sense to me for Matt

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Speaker 1: Sims to be involved or go back to Gino than half.

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Speaker 1: You go back to Gino in a week or two.

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Speaker 1: Don't you want to evaluate Gino's a head case? You

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Speaker 1: can't put it vis Vick has been just as bad,

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Speaker 1: and I think you go back to Gino in a

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Speaker 1: week or two. And also the Jets fans proposition, we

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Speaker 1: are in the same boat, Jets fans, where you're now.

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Speaker 1: We're almost rooting for losses because you want that draft pick.

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Speaker 1: But maybe we shouldn't because we're gonna probably gonna blow

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Speaker 1: the first round pick. Anyway, I say Vix starts at

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Speaker 1: least the next four games. Get my lunch. I will

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Speaker 1: take you up on that, and I'll only do it

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Speaker 1: with I'm taking Oh, you're taking? Oh? I see I

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Speaker 1: got you. Don't think he'll last four either, And that's

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Speaker 1: a ledger, Mr Twitter fellow who runs to go get

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Speaker 1: my lunch account very good. I don't think it'll lasts

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Speaker 1: two or three, but I'll take the four alright. Well,

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Speaker 1: lots of riding on me being right about this game,

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Speaker 1: which I feel very confident about despite all the great

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Speaker 1: points you made about me being an idiot, and we

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Speaker 1: should give the We we have talked about the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: a little bit just if the Chiefs take care of

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Speaker 1: business at home. They're five and three at the midway

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Speaker 1: point and in pretty good shape, so a big win

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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. They gotta take care of business. Now

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Speaker 1: we move on to West's second hero pick. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I we talked about my hero pick, and

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Speaker 1: since it's just pulled back the curtain can't travel through time.

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Speaker 1: At this very moment, I took the Panthers over the Saints.

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Speaker 1: I don't maybe people were listening to this and they'll

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Speaker 1: be like, wow, Danny did it again. You don't even

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Speaker 1: know into hanging on stag Dan, You're so awesome. But

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Speaker 1: so that was my hero pick. And now West is

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Speaker 1: your second hero pick, the Miami Dolphins. This is now,

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Speaker 1: this is a good hero pick. I'm in on this one.

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Speaker 1: We all took the Chargers on the road, who they've

625
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Speaker 1: lost two straight. This is the of course, the team

626
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Speaker 1: around the NFL, so there was a level of loyalty

627
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Speaker 1: to sticking with him and not thinking they're gonna lose

628
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Speaker 1: three in a row. We believe they are a better team. However, West,

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Speaker 1: you think Miami at home also, you know a team

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Speaker 1: that's had some moments been playing better. Do you think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna take care of business at home against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I just picked the Dolphins to stick it to the

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Speaker 1: team of a t l A. I look watched the

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Speaker 1: Steelers last week, who I wanted to be the team

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Speaker 1: v A tal and it was the most excited I've

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Speaker 1: been about a game. It was the most exciting game

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Speaker 1: I've watched in a couple of years. And it really

638
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: just hurt my feelings that well for turning the back,

639
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: turning my back on the team that I knew was

640
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: more exc but it was never gonna work because Sessler

641
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: would never endorse that as a tortured Browns fan, So

642
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: you just had to You didn't pick the right team.

643
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: You have a strategy. I'm punishing myself for just going

644
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: along with it instead of putting my foot down. I was.

645
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: We were all proud of you when you did go

646
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: along with the charges, But now you're saying that was

647
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: a mistake. A word out you would I would have

648
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: the reputation as the guy who just takes it too

649
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: seriously and really holds things up and it's kind of

650
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: too obstinate, and I don't want to be there. I

651
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: I picked the you know, we picked the Chargers in

652
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: part because I do think they're greater than the sum

653
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: of their parts. And that's part of the reason I

654
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: took them this week. Because there's a lot of reasons

655
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: to not take them. I think there's a very even matchup.

656
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: If you look at the Football Outsiders numbers, Charges are ninth,

657
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins are tenth. I think the Dolphins are an underrated

658
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: team right now that are really good on defense and

659
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: they can run the ball. It's a pretty good commentation there.

660
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: And the Chargers are probably gonna be without uh Vrette

661
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: in this game, Jason Verrette, Brandon Flowers might be back

662
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: from a concussion. They still don't have Ryan Matthews. This

663
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: is a banged up Chargers team. They don't have Manteo.

664
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough to move

665
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: the ball against the Dolphins. I did consult Football Outsiders

666
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: numbers before I made this pick, and that was a

667
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: big reason. It wasn't just because I wanted to stick

668
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: it to the team of uh Yeah. And as you said, Greg,

669
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: when you were pretending like there's an a f C

670
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: East race, if the Dolphins did win their five and three,

671
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: they're in the mix. Too. This is a sneaky big

672
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: game in the a f C race, a f C

673
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: playoff race, because especially for the Dolphins, if you look

674
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: at their schedule the rest of the way, it's actually

675
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: both these teams have very challenging schedules the rest of

676
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: the way. But if the Dolphins lose this home one

677
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: to another contender, it's kind of hard to see that

678
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: path to the playoffs. I think the Charges, though, they've

679
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: got something in them that's exciting. That's a playoff type

680
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: of team, and that's what's gonna show up in my end.

681
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: They have something in them all right, but it's not exciting,

682
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: which which Ryan Tannehill shows up. He's kind of turned into.

683
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: He's kind of turned into the you know people say

684
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: the bad Eli good like, it's kind of the bad Tannehill,

685
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: good Tannehill. You never know what's gonna show up after halftime,

686
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: before halftime. Any there's one quarterback in the league who's

687
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: even more jecculine high than that. We'll get to him later.

688
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: That's called the That is a nice to his West.

689
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: How can you go against the team that has this

690
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: song behind them like a picture like a fourteen year

691
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: old West in a disco tech somewhere. Ain't that old?

692
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: It's like four when I'm imagine the discotheque outside Cincinnati.

693
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't think disco era ever made at the Cincinnati

694
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: like Mark, Well, was it the disco demolition night in Cleveland? Yeah,

695
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: but that's Cleveland's four hours away. That's that's total. They

696
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: also they burned down a stadium almost because they hate

697
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: a disco so much. That was That was Mike Veck

698
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: who was who was blackballed from baseball at that But

699
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Mark Twain said about Cincinnati, when the end of the

700
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: world comes, that's where I want to be because they

701
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: won't find out about it for another fifteen years. Shots

702
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: fired by Mark Twain by Mark Twain. All right, moving

703
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: on to the final hero pick you, I didn't get

704
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: the chance to answer your question. How could I pick

705
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: against the team with that song? If we had played

706
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: that on this podcast before, I'd feel much better about

707
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: the charges because it's obviously a great song. Yeah, it's jaunt.

708
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: It is a little bit jaunty. I would say that.

709
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: And yes, one night, very late, a Twitter user uh

710
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: sent me a link to that song and I fired

711
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: it off to t D in the middle of the night.

712
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: And he responded immediately. Actually it was like three weeks later.

713
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: He's like, got it, but he's got it and it's

714
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: in and it's just what a podcast. Final Our final

715
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: hero pick is Greg Rosenthal, who uh really is? You know,

716
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: he's he's trying to move up to here O pick rankings,

717
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: and he's got Baltimore Ravens and last week, by the way,

718
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: you did have one last week. I believe that gives

719
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: you three on the year West you have won. You

720
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: gotta get that way up that list. Of course, I'm

721
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: seven out of thirteen, as we know anybody that's been

722
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: following us closely. What about on the road indoors, I

723
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: am actually three and three surprisingly in that scenario, um

724
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: and knew that. Greg, you we all took the Steelers.

725
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why I took the Steelers because

726
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: they're in their building, they're they're playing well. And Ben Roethlisberger,

727
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: who is a Hall of Fame quarterback at the apex

728
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: of his powers, coming off one of the greatest games ever.

729
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: I just can't pick against that guy. Not I'm just

730
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: saying that. I'm telling you why. And I feel like

731
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people probably are in the same boat.

732
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: This is not the time to bet against Ben Roethlisberger,

733
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: But you do you think the Ravens bounce back from

734
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: the tough loss on last week against the Ben Gals

735
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: and they take down the Steelers. Defend that hero people

736
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: always overreact to last week. Name Ben Roethlisberger having a

737
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: great season, one of my favorite players to watch in

738
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: the NFL. The Ravens have been a better team for

739
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: the first eight weeks of the season. Seven weeks this season.

740
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: I think this is a Super Bowl contender in Baltimore,

741
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: and I think it's a balanced team. It's a problem

742
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Smith is gonna be out this week. They're

743
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: gonna have to score a lot of points. But top

744
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: to bottom, I just see this Steelers team is one

745
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: that you can't trust, that's gonna make mental errors, make

746
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: mistakes in the red zone. And they had one big,

747
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: flashy game and it teams like the type of team

748
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: that's gonna blow it the next week after that. If

749
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: I cared about hero picks to the extent that Dan does,

750
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: I'd be really myth that you got a hero pick

751
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: on this. Like you said, the Ravens are the better team,

752
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: and see, look at that but here's west is with me,

753
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: Here's where is the most checko and high quarterback in

754
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: the NFL. And they're five wins. He's been awesome, and

755
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: they're five losses. He's been one of the worst quarterbacks

756
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Three losses. Yeah, three losses, Yes, Yeah,

757
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: that's totally fair. It'd be that you don't really know.

758
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: And it's weird because sometimes its decision making, sometimes just

759
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: bad throws exactly, and you don't know which one will

760
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: show up. So it's hard to predict this game. I

761
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: don't like the Steelers defense in general, and I do

762
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: have a little, you know, memory of these two teams

763
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: playing just a few weeks ago in prime time. I

764
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: guess it was what week two, and Baltimore dominated that game.

765
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: They won the game going away by the end you

766
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: write it was even for a little while where if

767
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: they go differently, I think the Steelers take control of

768
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: the game. I guess when I see James Harrison, you know,

769
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: playing a big role for this last week, playing a

770
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: big role for this team, and Brett Kisel, and there's

771
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: just something I'm not buying about this defense, and from

772
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: our research notes, these these two quarterbacks have faced off

773
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: eleven times, that second only to Brady and Manning in

774
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: terms of head to head matchups. Seven wins for Roethlisberger

775
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: against Flacco or the Steelers over the rave and so interesting,

776
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: interesting game. I look forward to watching it, so do

777
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: I because it's the Steelers. Yes, you are in on

778
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 1: the Steelers. All right, let's roll through these games, because really,

779
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: I mean we're up against in a time a little bit.

780
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: We gotta start rolling. We'll start with the Jacksonville Jaguars

781
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: against those Cincinnati Bengals who are at home where obviously

782
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: they are a much better team. The Jaguars have one win. Uh,

783
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: this is a game where the Bengals are gonna be

784
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: heavy favorites West. Can you make a case for the Jaguars?

785
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: I cannot. I. After I got done watching Game seven

786
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: of the World Series last night, I turned on some

787
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: high octane Jaguars film and the word I would use

788
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: for Blake Bortles right now is alarming. He has regressed

789
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: in almost every way possible. His mechanics are off, his

790
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: decision makings off. I don't like what I'm seeing from him. Yeah,

791
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: but when you watch that game, didn't you think, hey,

792
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: they out played the doll Fens other than Bordles. Bortles

793
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: was the problem last week. They stuffed Miami uh in

794
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: the passing game, got great pressure. The running game with

795
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: Denard Robinson is amazingly working pretty well. I actually watched

796
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: that game and I thought, I think, I think the

797
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: Jaggars can be frisky. This is a tough spot going

798
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati, but I think they can slow down Cincinnati.

799
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: Everything you said, I agree with. The rest of the

800
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: team really controlled that that game. Alan Robinson looks good

801
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: rookie wide receiver. They've got faster linebackers now. Kelvin smith

802
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: Is play in the middle and J T. Thomas. They

803
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: were all over the field. J D. Thomas and Kelvin

804
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: Smithy and the podcast Send Derrick Marks looks like the

805
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: August version of Send Derrick Marks, who won greg S

806
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: Mythical Defensive Player of the Preseason Award. It was I

807
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: think it was a preseason week one no word, but yeah,

808
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: you you watched you watched portals last week. It was

809
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: it was great, but you expect that type of stuff

810
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: from but it was wild. It was I wasn't expecting defense.

811
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: The Dolphins did not believe for one minute in the

812
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Jaguars play action. Every time they did play action, that

813
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins defense was right in Bortle's face. And that's with

814
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Thenard Robinson running a hundred in back to back games. Yeah,

815
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: he's an interesting guy to watch. The other guy to watch,

816
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: A J. Green is coming back from his toe injury,

817
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: so we'll see how he's moving if you get through

818
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: the game, West, I got a bit of a sleeper

819
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: call next July, when you're putting together your wide receiver duos,

820
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: how about a J Green Mohammed Sanut. Marvin's gotta prove

821
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: it now, after all, you gotta give it to right now. Yeah,

822
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: he won that game for them last week. He's won

823
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: a couple of games for them, alright. Moving on the

824
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay we all picked, obviously, uh, the team that

825
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: was better than the other team, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Uh.

826
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: Move on to a matchup with the Cleveland Browns. If

827
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: Mark was here, there would be some handwringing on Mark's behalf.

828
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: Did Mark pick the Browns this week? Yeah? We all

829
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: picked them. Good for you, Mark, Um. The Browns coming

830
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 1: off and not a very pretty win over the Raiders,

831
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: but they got the job done. The Scanneers are having

832
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: some type of Firesale just traded their first round pick

833
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: Mark Barron uh in two thousand twelves. So this is

834
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: a game where the Browns again have a nice cozy schedule.

835
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: That's it's been for them so far this season. Should

836
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: take care of business against the Bucks. Correct, Oh yeah, definitely.

837
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: The Bucks are just wretched. I I have come around

838
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: to West's view that the Bucks are the worst team

839
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I would definitely take the Raiders over

840
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: them on a neutral field. They take the Jaggers. At

841
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: least those teams have something going for them. I don't

842
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: know what the Bucks have going for them other than

843
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: two good defensive players. They have replaced the two as

844
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: my whipping boy. And you know what, I don't feel

845
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: bad about it because their uniforms are offensive and I

846
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: can't even watch them are that bad. They're hideous, and

847
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: they need to get rid of them right now because

848
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: they're awful. There will be a some type of list,

849
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: a listical Greg. You might be on it on the

850
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: NFL network where they didn't count down the top ten

851
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: worst uniforms mark my words about two thousand twenty three

852
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: or so, when they do like worst uniforms and worst

853
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: moments of the two thousand tens. This uniform will be

854
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: like a whole segment where they make fun of it

855
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: because it is gruesome. You know what happens? Then? What damnit?

856
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: Check pops up in a champagne bottle and Dwayne Munn

857
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: is shamed for defending these uniforms in an office article.

858
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: Does the audience know who Dwayne Munn is? No, our

859
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: social media coordinator, probably a better manager, Bossesar, whatever he is,

860
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: he defended those uniforms in print. If Mark was here,

861
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: you know Mark was forecasting doom last weekends Oakland after

862
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: rewatching that game. I mean, I think he he's has

863
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: a point that this team is maybe riped to totally

864
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: fall apart. They were lucky to win that game. Oakland

865
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: was really controlling the ball until Darren McFadden fumble and

866
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: Hoyer he's so scattershot. I do worry about this team

867
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: a little bit long term. Did we um They're not

868
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: built to have Hoyer and passing game carry them. Their

869
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: defense needs to be so much better. Did we roll

870
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: out our bold predictions posts for mid season that will

871
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: be up on Friday? Okay, so just a spoiler alert

872
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: I threw out the Browns as a playoff team, with

873
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: Manzelle replacing Hoyer and guiding them to nine wins and

874
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: into the back door of the seed. You want to

875
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: get bowled, We'll get bowl baby. Anyway, that's that game.

876
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: Moving on, the Philadelphia Eagles head to Houston to face

877
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, who West. We were talking about this

878
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: downstairs where I have a post I'm gonna be working

879
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: on after this show about teams. We're gonna stick a

880
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: fork in and we'll talk about that next week on

881
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: the podcast. And and you were vouching to get rid

882
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: of the Titans for however there for and for excuse me,

883
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: the Texans. I don't even know who the tight Seans is, uh,

884
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: but you you you said get rid of the Texans.

885
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: I I disagree because I think they played very competitively

886
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: all season long and maybe they get a little hot,

887
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: who knows what happens there. And Fosters playing great. J. J.

888
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: Watts the best defensive player on Earth. I don't want

889
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: to write them write them off yet, But you say

890
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: get rid of him? And you think the Eagles take

891
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: care of business today on Sunday for them there four

892
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: and four because they've played the easiest schedule in history.

893
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, they every week they play a

894
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: different cream pup. Well, they still get two more games

895
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville and a home game against the Titans. So

896
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: if you could just and I know it's not easy,

897
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: but if you could take care of business in those games,

898
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: you're two seven wins already. I'm not sure they're better

899
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: than those teams. They're better. They beat him, they beat

900
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: the Titans. They just crushed him. Jacksonville is playing much

901
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: better defense now than they were early in the season.

902
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, I I can't. I know that you

903
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: want me to think that Ryan Fitzpatrick is decent, I

904
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: can't wrap my head around that. I don't think he's decent.

905
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: I think he's been a little better than you would expect.

906
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: He hasn't been a total does that who has been

907
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: better this year? If you just looked at the stats,

908
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: Toyer or if Fitzpatrick, you would say Hoyer has been

909
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: leaps and bounds better. But to me, they've been about

910
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: the same. I thought I would go Folds, but big.

911
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: I would say Folds is better, but but by barely.

912
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: Um A couple of things about the Eagles. Shawn McCoy

913
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: very quietly up now to three point seven yards per Carrie.

914
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: Look for him to be, you know, up to his

915
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: old ways by the end of the season. And Nick

916
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: Foles he's the guy again. You gotta keep an eye

917
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: on him in this game. He's gonna have JJ Wapp

918
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: breathing down his his neck all game. You know, he's

919
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: a guy that's been thrown up football's all season. If

920
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: there's an upset here, it's because probably Nick Foles makes

921
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: some terrible decisions under pressure. Also because you mentioned these

922
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: two names. The Texans have the best two players in

923
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: the field, and Arian Foster and J. J. Watt Foster's

924
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: just playing lights out. Sean McCoy's like, what tasty? Alright?

925
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: Moving forward, Eagles, Moving forward, The Washington Redskins head to

926
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: Minnesota to face the Vikings. The big storyline, of course,

927
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: it looks like Robert Griffin the third will be the starter,

928
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: almost certainly, borrowing some type of setback in practice before

929
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: Sunday's game. Uh RG three back in the line of

930
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: the first time since Week two? What can we expect

931
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: from him? I mean, to me, I feel like we're

932
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: heading towards the scenario. And that's why I took the

933
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: Vikings Uh that even with him back, I get the

934
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: feeling that he's going to be very rusty and the

935
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: offense won't be moving well. Well. I took the Redskins,

936
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: and when I learned that r G three is definitely

937
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna start, I didn't feel any better about that pick.

938
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: In general. I just took him because I think they

939
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: have so many offensive weapons and they're starting to figure

940
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: some things out on defense there. That game plan against

941
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: Dallas was great, and I have very little faith in

942
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater right now. I just think he's he's thinking

943
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: too much. He seems a little rattled blitzing him constantly,

944
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: and then the Redskins showed that there could be a

945
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: good team to do that. I agree with everything Greg said. Yes,

946
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Tony Robo did not react well to the blitz on

947
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: Monday night. He was I don't know if maybe he

948
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: wasn't in the right head space after getting like a

949
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: three ft needle put in the back of his back,

950
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: but he didn't see anything even before that. Is that

951
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: logistically possible to put a three It was a potentially

952
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: deadly medical decision by the Cowboy's staff. It was reckless,

953
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: just kidding you, guys did a great job. He's healthy. Um,

954
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Zack by the way behind the glass now TV took

955
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: off for a meeting Zack. Wow. The rare mid show

956
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: replacement brought in the reliever, like Colt McCoy coming in

957
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: on Sunday to save the day for r G three. Absolutely,

958
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's a weird wife swap, but

959
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: we're not. So. Zach, who you may remember, filled in

960
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: over the summer a few shows, um, and you know,

961
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: did a damn good job at it. I thought, except

962
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: for playing that one bad j E t s when

963
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about oh yeah, that was bad. And I

964
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: will say this one thing I like about Zack's Twitter

965
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: handle when the bio that he has a guy who

966
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: likes pizza, tacos, and burgers kind of guy. The only

967
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: thing awesome. I think we all agree with those things.

968
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: So you're a kind of guy. He cut from the

969
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: same jib. Is that what it is? Now? You like

970
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: the cut of someone, you like the cut of someone's

971
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: cut from the same cloth, cut from the same There

972
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: we go, and that that reminds me of the late

973
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: Thomas Menino, the former Boston mayor that passed away today,

974
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: famous for his for his malappropriate How about that? Like

975
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: Archie were on fire with words today, at least you

976
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: guys are anyway, So how do we pick that? We? Oh, yeah,

977
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: Mark and I picked the Vikings and you gentlemen pick

978
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: the Redskins. We'll see how that shakes out. I wouldn't

979
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: mind if they do win some games there, though, just

980
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: to see if they can fulfill this prophecy Mark hat

981
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: about that they'll stay in the outdoor stadium there and

982
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: just skip the whole Super Bowl indoor thing because they

983
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: keep winning. That probably won't happen, but that would be

984
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: kind of a big story. I feel like, uh, NFC

985
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: Western matchup. St. Louis Rams heading to San Francisco to

986
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: face the forty nine. St. Louis said two and five

987
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: the Niners at four and three. Uh, we all picked

988
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: the Niners, So I guess obvious reasons I would. I

989
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: would say the bloom we were talking about, the bloom

990
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: was coming off the Austin Davis rose a little bit

991
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: on Sunday, I kinda I got a bit of a

992
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: I don't even want to give it, Cesslers that doesn't

993
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: deserve that much, but I got a good a feeling

994
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: that Davis could completely nose dive in this game that

995
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: we get a blowout. I just gotta feeling. I get

996
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: the same feeling. Why this forty Niners defense isn't that

997
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: good at least not yet, not that healthy. But I

998
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: think they're about to take off. I think we're hitting

999
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: that level they If you look at their schedule compared

1000
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals and the Seahawks, you gotta like what

1001
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: San Francisco has coming down the stretch. Just looking at

1002
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: the schedule, it's still hard, but it's easier than those two,

1003
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: and they get their players back. Uh. I don't know.

1004
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: I agree. I was pretty down on the forty Niners early,

1005
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: but I think overall they've weathered the storm enough early

1006
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: this season. Let's take a quick look at this schedule.

1007
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: Why don't we uh coming off there by? They have St. Louis,

1008
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: then they have at New Orleans. I'll be a tough

1009
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: game Nowlands at Giants, then the Redskins Seattle at home

1010
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: at Oakland. I mean, it's it's challenging, but at least

1011
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: they've they've gotten rid of one of their road uh,

1012
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: a couple of their road division games already, and they

1013
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: have a couple of their rivals coming in to San

1014
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: Francisco and they're getting healthy. Your thoughts was, I agree

1015
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: with both of you, gentlemen. I think the Fortins make

1016
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I agree with Greg. They've weathered the

1017
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: storm they've got, They've got reinforcements coming, and I think

1018
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm conditioned not to believe in Ram's quarterbacks. Yeah, and

1019
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: they I mean they lose Brian Quick. It's bizarre that

1020
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: that's a pretty big It's it's a big injury for them.

1021
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: They had a you know, they lose Jake Long, so

1022
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: now they have a new left tackle. I mean, they've

1023
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: had They've had such bad luck that there's almost no

1024
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: way they can fire Jeff Fisher. It almost works out

1025
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: well for him. Brian Quick, by the way, on Pacer

1026
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: a little over eight hundred yards, so it's not like

1027
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: he was pairing the world apart As a Jets fan,

1028
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm also thinking maybe I want Austin Davis to kind

1029
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: of do just enough where the Rams don't think they

1030
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: need to address the quarterback situation. Uh, come April, but

1031
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, they might have a defensive Brick of the

1032
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: Year candidate in Aaron Donald. Now, okay, the Oakland Raiders.

1033
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: We went over their schedule on on Sunday or Wednesday,

1034
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember anymore, but there are not a lot

1035
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: of easy wins on the schedule, and certainly UH Sunday

1036
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: does not count as one of them. They go to

1037
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: Seattle and UH. I wish I could be like Alt

1038
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: Michael's and talk about how much UH the Raiders are

1039
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: expected to lose by. I won't. I won't do that,

1040
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: but I imagine this is going to be a game

1041
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: where if Seattle doesn't win by you know, three touchdowns,

1042
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be considered a surprise. Correct. Yes, but

1043
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: this Raiders team is one of the most watchable windless

1044
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: teams in NFL history. Chris Wesley jumped off killing the

1045
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: Raiders because he'll admit it, the Radars. That's what you want,

1046
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: by the way, the most watchable windless team. Hey, they

1047
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: you gotta start suhere, Wessel admit that they're with Derek

1048
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Carr especially, and an Cleo Mack on the other side,

1049
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: there's there's something about this Raiders team that's not altogether unpleasant.

1050
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: They're about the most watchable team in the NFL. Right, Oh,

1051
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: I disagree, See, I like Derek Carr I don't know.

1052
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm starting to like Derek. I think

1053
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: they might have found something with him. For as decent

1054
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: as Derek Carr has been, all right, he's done pretty well,

1055
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: aren't They last in the NFL and points it's not translating,

1056
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: translating into school or you get before you get Tony

1057
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: Sperano Coach of the Year. They have been better with

1058
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: this ragtag bunch to zero wins. Remember that the Browns

1059
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: basically tried to hand the Raiders their first one of

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00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: the season on Sunday, and they wouldn't take it. The

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00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: Browns are like, we're the Browns. You're not gonna take

1062
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: a gift from the Browns. That's fair. I mean, not

1063
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: playing that well. They're not playing that well, but I

1064
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of like Andre Holmes. Darren McFadden's running the ball

1065
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: pretty well. Every time they give Maurice Jones drew the

1066
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: ball is a waste of time. He's gonna be out

1067
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: of the league next. I thought that, I can't believe

1068
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: it watching them, I just thought, why are you wasting time?

1069
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: I guess it's because you don't want McFadden to get hurt,

1070
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: which makes sense, but they should just whoever their third

1071
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: running back is, who is Tavius Murray? Just give him

1072
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: the ball instead? Alright, Moving on to a game game

1073
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: where it's split within the around the NFL ranks. The

1074
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals traveling to Arlington to face the Dallas Cowboys.

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00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: The Cardinals, of course six and one. They find ways

1076
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: to win every week. Lara Fitzgerald, this was interesting. Lara

1077
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is uh one of West's boys. He loves Larry

1078
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: Table also West, also a San Antonio Spurs fan. A

1079
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that. Lara Fitzgerald on Thursday

1080
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: or on Wednesday said that the Cardinals are like the

1081
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: NFL version of the San Antonio Spurs. They're scrappy, They're

1082
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: just scrappy boys. When I read that, it kind of

1083
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: what I took from that was that Larry Fitzgerald don't

1084
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: send him out of Arizona for two thousand and fifteen

1085
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: just yet it seems like he's on board Bruce Arians.

1086
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I took at it that he doesn't pay

1087
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 1: that close attention to the NBA or something exactly because

1088
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: titles in the last thirty one years that I don't

1089
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Cardinals can claim that same

1090
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: level of success. I don't know if that's really what

1091
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: he was doing. They do get a little bit ignored,

1092
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: like the Spurs have over the years. I mean, here

1093
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: they are by record, this is probably the best game

1094
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: of the season, basically, right, and you got a six

1095
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: and two team verse seven. It's the same as the

1096
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: Patriots Broncos and here it is buried behind. You know,

1097
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: some lousy games on our show. We should give it

1098
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: the proper respect. Let's dive in by the paddle that

1099
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: comparison somewhere else. You just that was a subtle shot

1100
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: at me. It was on purpose so we could have

1101
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: good games across the take. You take everything as a yes,

1102
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: that will be remembered. Uh yeah, so, And of course

1103
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: Tony Romo is the big guy to keep an eye

1104
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: on here. It looks like he's gonna be a game

1105
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: time decision. Do you give the Cowboys any chance of

1106
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: Brandon Weedon's a starter? Sure? I do. The Cardinals let

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00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: the other team in every game. I weirdly do. And

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00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: the same way that I gave the Cardinals a chance

1109
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: to win games with Drew Stanton. You know, I don't

1110
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: think Brandon Weeden's as good a back up. But there

1111
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: are a lot of really strong supportive pieces in Dallas,

1112
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: like the running game, like Desert Bryant, like Jason Witten.

1113
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Weeden put up more points than Tony Romo did

1114
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: the other night. For what it's worth, it was mostly

1115
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: the running game. But I'm just saying the team did

1116
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: not fall apart when he was at quarterback. Both of

1117
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: these they came back. Both of these defenses have lost

1118
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: a lot of talent to injuries and in Dallas case,

1119
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: to free agency, and the Cardinals keep playing better on defense.

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00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: The Cowboys worry me. They lose Justin Durant, who had

1121
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: been Rolando McLean got all the pub but Durant was

1122
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: playing just as well as him, and mcclean's missed a

1123
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: lot of tackles lately. I think that's a big loss. Yeah,

1124
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: I agree, and they they just don't. It's hard to

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00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: win week after week without a pass rush. And they

1126
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: don't have a pass rush. I mean, who is their

1127
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: pass rush guy? Tyrone Crawford, I guess, and him and

1128
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: Melton who has been okay, you know from from the middle,

1129
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: but you really want someone on the outside. And when

1130
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 1: it's Jeremy Mincy and a shell of his former shelf

1131
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Spencer. He really hasn't shown up at all this year.

1132
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Speaker 1: It's just tough to win week after week. I took

1133
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Mark and I took the Cowboys. The rest

1134
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: of the group took the Cardinals, so that will be

1135
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: very interesting. I kind of have a feeling does Bryants

1136
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: gonna have one of those dead games too? That would

1137
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: not surprised I don't. I don't feel good about it

1138
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: very well. Right, we gotta give the Cardinals some love.

1139
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of a lot of hatred on Twitter.

1140
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: Just block them. If you're getting hatred, you should block people.

1141
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: They have been a spunky team. Yes, all right, So

1142
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Speaker 1: that's it for Thursday's Editionally Around the NFL podcast. Listen,

1143
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Speaker 1: I'm forgetting a game. You're making me worry that I

1144
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: forgot again. Once we forgot a game and we didn't

1145
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: hear the end of House. Now, I was thinking, didn't

1146
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: the Tytoons play this? But I guess they're on a buy.

1147
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't That doesn't count anyway. We'll be back on

1148
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: Sunday to recap all these glorious games that we just

1149
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: went through. Zachi did a great job behind the glass. Well,

1150
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: little early there, listen a little early. But let's try

1151
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: this again. Was that a bit I don't think it was.

1152
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: I saw that terror. Hey. That's what we love about Zach.

1153
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: He's so conscientious when on the rare occasion when he

1154
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: does make a mistake, ZA feel badly about he does.

1155
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: I like TV. He was just like Ivan Drago behind

1156
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: the class. If he dies, he dies. Um, all right,

1157
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: so let's try this again. That's it. This is Dan Hands.

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Speaker 1: Let's get some music rolling. Yeah, that's Dan Hands is

1159
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: signing up for the Mailman and the Boss and of

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00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: course t D and Zach Dressler. What's your handle, by

1161
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: the way, turn her hands at Zachodosius. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: try to spell it. Figure it out if you can.

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Speaker 1: That's it. We'll see you on Sunday. Thank you for listening.