WEBVTT - Short Stuff: James Dean's Car

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. Josh here, Chuck here,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry here, let's go short stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, this one is about James Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>Scar and Jamesteen too. He plays a part in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It amounts in his death, that's right, the results in

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<v Speaker 1>his death.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's when he drove that little silver Porsche five

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<v Speaker 2>fifty spider Man, one of the fastest. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>a little race car, basically one of the fastest cars

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<v Speaker 2>in the world at the time, had a top speed

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<v Speaker 2>of about one hundred and forty three miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Sat how high off the ground like forty two inches

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<v Speaker 2>or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like that was really really low to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that really go right under a railroad arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you were crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, And Jamesteen was known to be a little crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>The studios that he worked for were like, you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>race your car while you're under contract with us, or

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<v Speaker 1>while you're filming a movie. You have to wait until

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<v Speaker 1>it's in between movies. And it just so happened that

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<v Speaker 1>I take it it was in between movies. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was after he had filmed Giant, which turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be his last movie, that he was heading toward

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<v Speaker 1>Salinas to race at a sports Car Club of America race,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had his mechanic, Ralph Watherich Wortherich, Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>the seat beside him, and he was going about eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five and came upon an intersection that's known today to

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<v Speaker 1>still be pretty deadly. It's the intersection of Route forty

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<v Speaker 1>six and forty one. And there was a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>with the improbable name of Donald turn up Speed who

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<v Speaker 1>turned in front of him, and that was that for

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<v Speaker 1>James Deen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never heard of that name before. I had

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<v Speaker 2>not either not turnip Seed, right, That's.

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<v Speaker 1>What I thought. It was a misspelling, but no.

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<v Speaker 2>Not turn ip Speed right, literally turn up Speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was the last name of the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>got in the fatal wreck with James Dean. Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty crazy, and it was very sad. And people

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<v Speaker 2>have gone back since then and said, like, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that that intersection there, the sun hits really bright where

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<v Speaker 2>James Dean would have been at that time. He would

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<v Speaker 2>have been very low to the ground, being in that

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<v Speaker 2>car eighty five miles an hour, clearly too fast, and

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<v Speaker 2>when the guy turned, they think that James Dean may

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<v Speaker 2>not because of the path of the sun. May not

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<v Speaker 2>have even seen this car taking a left and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just lights out for him.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another thread or another camp that says that Ralph

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<v Speaker 1>Wilderich later said that James Dean's last words were he's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta stop, I think he sees me, and then caboo.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently when they collided, Donald Turnip's speed was driving

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<v Speaker 1>a Ford Sedan and when you put an aluminum race

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<v Speaker 1>car that's I think thirty nine inches of a meter

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<v Speaker 1>off the ground up against the Ford in a t

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<v Speaker 1>bone collision, the Ford wins and that little Porsche with

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<v Speaker 1>James Deane still in it. Rolf Weatherwich got ejected from it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what saved his life. James Dean was still

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<v Speaker 1>in the car when it started cartwheeling, just end over

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<v Speaker 1>end over end into a ditch and he broke his

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<v Speaker 1>neck while he was doing that, and that's ultimately what

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<v Speaker 1>killed him. That in his skull fracture.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, did you see the car after the wreck?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I just texted to you, so sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's okay, take another look at it. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>crazy that anyone survived this crash. But he was the

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<v Speaker 2>only fatality. And I guess we should take a break

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<v Speaker 2>a little early here because the story about what happened

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<v Speaker 2>to that car gets a little bit strange from this

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<v Speaker 2>point on. So we'll be right back. Well, now we're

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<v Speaker 2>on the road, driving in your truck.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to learn a thing or two from josh

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<v Speaker 1>Am Chuck. It's stuff you should know, all right, Okay, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>So James Deen is dead. But the death of James

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<v Speaker 1>Dean is just like the preface to this story. Because

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<v Speaker 1>James Den's car, even though it was considered it total,

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<v Speaker 1>it was totaled. It had a strange afterlife, and it

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<v Speaker 1>ended up taking more lives if you go in for

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right that it was sent to a salvage art

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<v Speaker 2>at first. Of course, then there was a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>knew James Dean from the car racing circuit. His name

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<v Speaker 2>was William S. Rich. He was looking for this car.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we said the nickname of the car

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<v Speaker 2>was a little Bass. Found the car in Burbank, took

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<v Speaker 2>out the engine, kind of stripped it for parts or

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<v Speaker 2>some of the parts. At least he got the engine

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<v Speaker 2>put it in his own race car. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>lotus nine and gave the transmission and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>suspension to a friend named Troy Lee McHenry, another car racer.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven months later, both of them crashed. Each of them

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<v Speaker 2>crashed their car in the same race at the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six Pomona Road Races, which killed McHenry. Esrich survived, but

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<v Speaker 2>both of them had parts from James Dean's car and

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<v Speaker 2>thus began this idea that this car was cursed.

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<v Speaker 1>So the car itself was pretty much cherry picked by

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<v Speaker 1>this point. But even after Troy Lee McHenry died, his

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<v Speaker 1>widow gave some of his racing car parts to other

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<v Speaker 1>racers friends of his, and among them were some of

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<v Speaker 1>the ones from James Dean's car. So put a pin

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<v Speaker 1>in that, because that's kind of one direction that these

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<v Speaker 1>things went. Yeah, there was another direction that a man

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<v Speaker 1>named George Barris came along and said, here's where the

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<v Speaker 1>story really begins. If you listen to George Barris, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just go ahead and caveat this with not everybody

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<v Speaker 1>believes what George Barris has to say, much like Chuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, for sure, Barris was a pretty famous guy. He

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<v Speaker 2>designed the Batmobile, he designed the Munster's car from that

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<v Speaker 2>TV show. So he's a Hollywood movie TV and movie

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<v Speaker 2>car guy. I believe he has a museum. If not,

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<v Speaker 2>he donated some cars to one of the movie car museums,

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<v Speaker 2>but was pretty famous in entertainment circles for doing stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. He says that he bought the frame and

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<v Speaker 2>the body from James Dean's family, sold two of the

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<v Speaker 2>original tires away, which apparently those tires were blown at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time in another car. He'd verify that. I

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<v Speaker 2>just take that for what it's worth, right, And then

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<v Speaker 2>he lent the car frame to the LA National Safety Council.

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<v Speaker 2>They had like a traveling display, you know when they'll

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<v Speaker 2>show like a mangled car from a duy or something

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<v Speaker 2>and as a warning signal. Supposedly that was what James

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<v Speaker 2>Dean's car was used as in this thing reportedly keep

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<v Speaker 2>saying all these qualifier words, but reportedly fell off its

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<v Speaker 2>display on several occasions, one time injuring someone, another time

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<v Speaker 2>killing a guy named George Barcas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was a truck driver who was transporting that

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<v Speaker 1>car around from place to place for the National Safety Council.

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<v Speaker 1>So James Den's car has now claimed at least one

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<v Speaker 1>more life and injured multiple others.

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<v Speaker 2>You believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's getting more efficient at it because it's now been

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<v Speaker 1>taken into pieces and spread out, so now it can

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<v Speaker 1>become a kill machine more efficiently. So that car that

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<v Speaker 1>the National Safety Council had touring around was supposedly put

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<v Speaker 1>into storage in nineteen sixty and it was again allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>in storage with other cars when it caught on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>No other car in this storage facility caught on fire,

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<v Speaker 1>just James Den's car. It melted like a tire and

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<v Speaker 1>singed I think some of the interior, and then after

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<v Speaker 1>that it supposedly disappeared, and George Barris continued on and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, I've got the chassis still, can you

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<v Speaker 1>believe it? Like these things just keep coming out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a magnet for James Dean car parts. And

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<v Speaker 1>he toured it around and it was around this time

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<v Speaker 1>I think that people really started to be like this

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<v Speaker 1>Barris fellas, he's talented, but he's really playing up this

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<v Speaker 1>James Dean death car legend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. In his book, he claimed that a guy tried

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<v Speaker 2>to steal the steering wheel and broke his arms trying

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<v Speaker 2>to steal the steering wheel. Pretty good story. So now

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<v Speaker 2>we can go back to the other path, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because at that point the Bear's car has suddenly disappeared,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we don't know what, Like if the Bear's

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<v Speaker 1>car was not the James Deen car, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to the original.

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<v Speaker 2>One, right, But you told that story about the car

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<v Speaker 2>being in storage and catching fire. In twenty fifteen, it

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<v Speaker 2>appeared that they found the frame because a guy got

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with a museum director for the Volo Auto Museum, Volo, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>His name was Brian Grahams, and he said that this

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<v Speaker 2>guy told me that when he was a kid, he

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<v Speaker 2>saw his father and some friends of his hiding the

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<v Speaker 2>body of that Porsche in a building in a false

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<v Speaker 2>wall in the building when he was just six years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And it looked like that story checked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean Brian Grahams, who directed the museum, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, he believed it enough to ask the guy

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<v Speaker 1>to submit to a polygraph. And he said that there's

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<v Speaker 1>been tons of stories over the years. Because the Volo

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<v Speaker 1>Auto Museum put out a one million dollar offer for

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<v Speaker 1>James Dean's original car that again had disappeared back in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty, and he said that all the other stories

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<v Speaker 1>just never checked out except for one, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>referring to that one from the guy who said that

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<v Speaker 1>he saw his father hide it, and you said that

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<v Speaker 1>his dad did it with some friends. Among those friends,

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<v Speaker 1>according to this guy, was George Barris. So all this

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<v Speaker 1>would have checked out because this would have been the

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<v Speaker 1>time that the car disappeared, around nineteen sixty. And even

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<v Speaker 1>though he passed the polygraph test, this anonymous man who

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to collect this million dollars, I feel for him,

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't get his hands on the car. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure at first why. But eventually they found that the

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<v Speaker 1>building that it was hidden was no longer there.

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<v Speaker 2>It had been demolished, that's right, And so they don't

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<v Speaker 2>really know what happened. It could have been just a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the overall demolition of that building, since it

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<v Speaker 2>was supposedly hidden in a false wall and gone down

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<v Speaker 2>like the Telltale Heart. But no one really knows what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to the rest of Little Bastard. Supposedly there was

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<v Speaker 2>a transaxle in March of twenty twenty that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think supposedly. I think this was actually confirmed to have

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<v Speaker 2>been a part of the car because it came from

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<v Speaker 2>McHenry's widow, and McHenry was the one who bought those

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<v Speaker 2>original parts and died in the wreck.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that transaxle, I guess it combines the differential, the transmission,

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<v Speaker 1>and the axle all into one compartment. If you know

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<v Speaker 1>what those three things are, then you'll know what a

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<v Speaker 1>transaxle is. It went for I think almost four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars at auction. I think it was bought by

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Bagans, the ghost guy who probably has it in

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<v Speaker 1>his Las Vegas museum.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I guess, so, uh, four hundred grand for a transaxle.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's a famous car, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems a little I don't know. It's just not

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<v Speaker 2>a not the sexiest part.

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<v Speaker 1>A cursed transaxle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was the whole point that it was

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<v Speaker 2>his car. I get it, but I don't know. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is coming from the guy who had

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<v Speaker 2>the sheriff's door from Jackie Gleason's Sheriff's cruiser from smoking

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<v Speaker 2>the bandit in my garage for years and years.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, what happened to it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I've told the story before who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad somehow got it added Chick fil a uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just in our garage forever. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was eventually as I can just get that

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<v Speaker 2>thing out of here. Wow, I wish I had it. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>that thing would be a coffee table or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or a great Halloween costume.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or you me would be cursing me because I

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<v Speaker 2>would have gifted you that coffee table made out of

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<v Speaker 2>a car door.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty awesome. That would make a great coffee table.

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck, Yeah, and a good wedding gift.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. Thank you for the thought. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>thought that count. So I appreciate the smoky and the

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