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Speaker 2: the bracket Challenge. Of course he is. I love that.
Speaker 2: We'll have Adam Sandler in there, Brian Cranston from Breaking Bad,
Speaker 2: quite a few celebrities there and you can play along
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Speaker 2: We'll get to phone calls coming up. We'll check in
Speaker 2: with the Minnesota Vikings. Are the Vikings interested in Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers because people think that Rogers is holding up the Steelers?
Speaker 2: The Vikings are holding up the rest of the NFL.
Speaker 2: But there's really a lack of context here of are
Speaker 2: the Vikings interested, And I said last week, why don't
Speaker 2: the Vikings just come out and say JJ McCarthy is
Speaker 2: our quarterback unless you're interested. And they may say, well,
Speaker 2: we don't need to do that. Why should we do that?
Speaker 2: They're right, But if you're all in on JJ McCart
Speaker 2: maybe they've told him privately, Hey, we're not commenting on
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. You're our guy. Let them speculate all they want.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll hold up the Giants, We'll hold up
Speaker 2: the Steelers here. We'll check in with the Vikings to
Speaker 2: find out is there interest there at all, because I
Speaker 2: don't know if I've the Steelers and the Giants already
Speaker 2: have reportedly have contracts in place and offer for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: But then you throw in the caveat of you know,
Speaker 2: he could retire. Aaron Rodgers is holding everybody holding me
Speaker 2: hostage because I do have to cover it, because it
Speaker 2: is a big story if he goes to the Vikings,
Speaker 2: if he goes to the Steelers, not as much if
Speaker 2: he goes to the Giants, but still he's a first
Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer. You have to cover this. But
Speaker 2: it feels like this is and I've talked about this
Speaker 2: numerous times. There's wishful reporting. It feels like the NFL
Speaker 2: community wants to keep this alive, that Aaron Rodgers may
Speaker 2: go to the Vikings. The Brett fav comparison, Green Bay
Speaker 2: the Jets and then the Vikings. Feels like it's wishful reporting.
Speaker 2: But we'll see if we can get some answers here
Speaker 2: coming up. How are your brackets? By the way, when
Speaker 2: do we have to officially fill out our brackets? Has
Speaker 2: to be ready to go at the end of the
Speaker 2: day Wednesday. Historically that's what we've done, Okay, but not
Speaker 2: Thursday morning.
Speaker 3: I believe Wednesday the nineteenth Okay, first round games are Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, first round games are Thursday at noon.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, all right, so the end of the day
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, I might be able to do a Thursday morning. No,
Speaker 2: because I have to get everybody. Oh boy, you know
Speaker 2: some of these Hollywood types, they don't want to be
Speaker 2: told what to do, and then you have to go
Speaker 2: through a spokesperson and then go through their agents.
Speaker 4: And yes, Martin, I was told in it back Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Wednesday at the at the close of business, Cob, Yes, Cob,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say by the time the newsletter comes out,
Speaker 2: it's six easterns.
Speaker 3: So eod also working end of day yep.
Speaker 2: Eo d okay, yes, Paulie.
Speaker 5: One of my favorite things about our celebrity bracket contest.
Speaker 5: Todd pulls some pretty random celebrities every year, and he
Speaker 5: always picks a new.
Speaker 3: Crush that he has of an actress.
Speaker 2: Or entertainer or a newsperson.
Speaker 5: Yes, this year he put on big time actress Jennifer Lawrence,
Speaker 5: who's never been on this show. Whereas any connection to
Speaker 5: the Dan Patrick Show or college basket I think it
Speaker 5: could be fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're usually swimsuit models, local weather women. Actually Judd,
Speaker 2: but she was a big Kentucky basketball fan. There was
Speaker 2: at least a basketball hook to her. But Todd, any
Speaker 2: chance that he somehow can talk to somebody on the
Speaker 2: phone and he I give him credit. I never had
Speaker 2: that confidence growing up ever, and Todd has too much
Speaker 2: confidence when it comes to those things he has. He
Speaker 2: has no fear.
Speaker 3: It's a fear shame.
Speaker 2: How about awareness? Has no awareness? Awareness? Lester Holt is
Speaker 2: on the list here, YEA, let's go at yes, right, Lester?
Speaker 2: Of course. But I said to Todd you decide who
Speaker 2: you want, go after whoever you want. And he just
Speaker 2: loves this. But Todd's out for the next couple of days.
Speaker 6: Yes, Dylan, I was gonna say, I think it's just
Speaker 6: too easy for Todd to get in touch with people.
Speaker 2: He has like his rolodex of everyone's found out. Well,
Speaker 2: he's very determined to Like we got Michael Douglas a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago and back to back years and
Speaker 2: I went, be Michael Douglas, huh, and Todd goes, yeah, yep, yep,
Speaker 2: he's going to be in it, and I go, okay,
Speaker 2: of course, Michael Douglas. When we were having Michael Douglas
Speaker 2: on the show in studio a few years ago and
Speaker 2: we were told he doesn't follow sports, don't ask him
Speaker 2: sports questions. A PR person says that, and I go, wait,
Speaker 2: I'm asking him some sports questions. And it turned out
Speaker 2: he was a great guest. You know, Ryan Reynolds, he
Speaker 2: doesn't really know sports, but then you start talking to him.
Speaker 2: He was just a great interview. Billy Bob, he knows
Speaker 2: a little baseball. I'm like, if they're coming on, we're
Speaker 2: going to have a conversation. And they were all great
Speaker 2: because they want to be great. But Alex Ovechkin, the
Speaker 2: fact that he is going to fill out a bracket
Speaker 2: is pretty cool. Pull question seating from our one, what
Speaker 2: are we going to go with an hour two?
Speaker 3: We got two of them up there for our one. Okay,
Speaker 3: who would you rather see in the tournament? Your options
Speaker 3: being West Virginia, Indiana, Boise State. You see Irvine, Ohio State,
Speaker 3: or North Carolina right now? Gosh, from almost almost a tie,
Speaker 3: West Virginia, slightly ahead of Indiana, slightly ahead of Boise State,
Speaker 3: just slightly ahead of North Carolina. Nobody wants to see
Speaker 3: Ohio State. Nobody wants to see uc Airvine.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's close though, all right. North Carolina fourth in
Speaker 2: that eight seven to seven three DP shows we always
Speaker 2: do every Monday, best and worst of the weekend operators
Speaker 2: sitting by taking your phone calls. The Bengals have built
Speaker 2: their team from the outside in, so you have wide
Speaker 2: receivers and that's not the normal way you do this.
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is great. T Higgins wonderful as well. You're
Speaker 2: paying nearly seventy million dollars a year for two wideouts.
Speaker 2: It's a model that's really tough. To sustain the offense
Speaker 2: wasn't the issue last year. Joe Burrow, coming off wrist surgery,
Speaker 2: needed protection more than ever. And I think this was
Speaker 2: a Joe, We're going to keep you happy. We're going
Speaker 2: to bring back both of these guys. I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: done that. I would keep Jamar Chase. But you know,
Speaker 2: you're in a division that has TJ. Watt and Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2: So there are teams that have good, impactful defensive players.
Speaker 2: But you know, the Bengals have firepower. They can win.
Speaker 2: You know, they can win in dramatic fashion and they
Speaker 2: can lose in dramatic fashion because that defense. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if they bring back Trade Hendrickson, He's thirty
Speaker 2: years of age, led the NFL and sacks back to me,
Speaker 2: seems to be the big head scratcher there. And I
Speaker 2: liken them to the Miami Dolphins that you know, you
Speaker 2: have a quarterback, you paid a lot too, and you
Speaker 2: got two wide receivers that you've built around, you know,
Speaker 2: Wadowin and Tyreek Hill. That's not a blueprint for success.
Speaker 2: Can you be the Philadelphia Eagles? No, not anytime soon.
Speaker 2: They built from the inside out. They built offensive and
Speaker 2: defensive line. If you look at great teams, you know, sustainability,
Speaker 2: You've got to have a great offensive and defensive line,
Speaker 2: or at least good offensive and defensive line. You can't
Speaker 2: be twenty seventh in defense, third in offense and make
Speaker 2: that work. It just you know, Kansas City, they were
Speaker 2: an offensive minded team, then they became a defensive minded team,
Speaker 2: and then they ended up winning championships being a defensive
Speaker 2: minded team. Chris Jones, and they ran the football Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes not the guy throwing fifty touchdown houses. But they adapted,
Speaker 2: they had to change who their their identity was. The Bengals,
Speaker 2: they're going to be fun to watch. This just felt
Speaker 2: like we don't want Joe Burrow to want to to
Speaker 2: one out. But they did go to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But they went to a super Bowl and at the
Speaker 2: time had a very good defense, respectable defense to go
Speaker 2: along with that offense. But you know, the salary camp
Speaker 2: is going to go up. Bengals signed these guys. Now,
Speaker 2: what do you do? What can you do? Pittsburgh's going
Speaker 2: to be good, Baltimore, you know, is going to be
Speaker 2: very good. Cleveland they might be competitive, They're not going
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. But the AFC, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: that there's a lot of good teams there. But I
Speaker 2: think that that surprised me that they signed, well, they
Speaker 2: were going to sign Jamar Chase, but they didn't have
Speaker 2: to announce that they were going to make him the
Speaker 2: highest paid player in the game non quarterback. And you
Speaker 2: don't have any wiggle room if you say that. It's
Speaker 2: not like you go, yeah, we were just kidding. You know,
Speaker 2: we won him the fifth highest non paid No, you
Speaker 2: made him the highest paid non quarterback in the game.
Speaker 2: Could have done this a while ago, and t Higgins
Speaker 2: could have done that a while ago as well. Yes, Booney,
Speaker 2: going back.
Speaker 5: To twenty twenty one, the Bengals, the year they made
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, they had a seventh ranked offense and
Speaker 5: seventeenth ranked defense, which is not bad. I was trying
Speaker 5: to comp them to remember the Rams with Kurt Warner
Speaker 5: back in the day and Tory Holt and Bruce and
Speaker 5: I just assumed they were all offense. For three years
Speaker 5: in a row, the Rams had the number one ranked
Speaker 5: offense in the NFL for two of those years. They
Speaker 5: had a top ten defense both of those years they
Speaker 5: made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have something in the upper teams.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna have a really good offense, you got
Speaker 2: to at least have that defense that can stop somebody
Speaker 2: at some point in the playoffs. The regular season is different.
Speaker 2: Teams are built for the regular season. Team are built
Speaker 2: for the playoffs. Teams are built to win in all
Speaker 2: the elements. We can win on the road, we can win.
Speaker 2: If it's going south, we can win. If we're going north.
Speaker 2: We can win with our bad you know, with our
Speaker 2: B game on offense. But you've got to have your
Speaker 2: defense there that's able to be respected, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7: And sometimes for teams that are even offensively minded, you
Speaker 7: at least need one big play from the defense. Almost
Speaker 7: like you said with the ninety nine Rams, they won
Speaker 7: a Super Bowl because of a great defensive play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's all you need.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are teams that are fun to watch,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if we take them seriously. Like
Speaker 2: I like watching the Dolphins. I don't think they're threatening.
Speaker 2: I think they're fun to watch. There's just certain teams
Speaker 2: where you go, yeah, they're fun, but it's just if
Speaker 2: you want to win a championship. I mean, now the
Speaker 2: pressure is really on Joe Burrow when you think about it,
Speaker 2: we got your receivers now. I mean, he did make
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, but I don't think there's any other
Speaker 2: quarterback who has two receivers as good as those two.
Speaker 2: Can you think of somebody else who's two receivers are
Speaker 2: as good as now? Jordan Addison's good. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's better than t Higgins in Minnesota. Yeah, Pauling, it's
Speaker 2: really not that close. I'm looking at some lists and
Speaker 2: there's not two A receivers with a person you could
Speaker 2: say Jalen Hurts has two very good receivers. I don't
Speaker 2: know if we could shoehorn it to that level. And
Speaker 2: people will bring up, well, the Eagles have wide receivers.
Speaker 2: They do, but they don't use their wide receiver. They
Speaker 2: don't throw the ball. I mean, it's surprising if they
Speaker 2: throw it more than twenty times, but they don't have to.
Speaker 2: They have a really good defensive line, a really good
Speaker 2: offensive line, and then you throw in Saquon Barkley. They're
Speaker 2: not asking Jalen Hurts to win games. The Bengals are
Speaker 2: going to say to Joe Burrow, Joe, we're spending a
Speaker 2: lot of money here, Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 5: Last year, the Philadelphia Eagles threw the ball the least
Speaker 5: amount of times of any NFL team for four hundred
Speaker 5: and forty eight attempts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, Mark.
Speaker 4: What about the Rams? Where do you put Puokah in
Speaker 4: DeVante Adams.
Speaker 2: Not as good as t Higgins and Jamar Chase because
Speaker 2: I think I think those two guys are better than
Speaker 2: the Rams too. I think Jamar Chase is better than
Speaker 2: Puka and this is you know, this isn't Adams five
Speaker 2: years ago. T Higgins is really good. He's really good,
Speaker 2: So I would say that, I don't know if there's
Speaker 2: anybody else, I mean Wada and Hill, but then I'd
Speaker 2: rather have Joe Burrow throwing to my receivers than you know,
Speaker 2: Tua throwing to those two receivers. And who knows how
Speaker 2: long Tyreek Hill is going to stay in Miami. I
Speaker 2: still think you'll end up with Kansas City for some
Speaker 2: of you end up back there all right. Eight seven
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Speaker 2: number one Seeds Auburn, Florida Duke and Houston. Hello Gregory,
Speaker 2: Gregory in Orlean. I believe is what it says on
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Speaker 4: O l e A.
Speaker 2: N Oh? Where is Olian?
Speaker 8: Right next to Saint Bonaventure University?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, all right, well, welcome to the program.
Speaker 8: All right, six three two fifty. I have a I
Speaker 8: have a question for Seaton. Now I know he's a
Speaker 8: West Virginia alumni, but would he rather be a Notre
Speaker 8: Dame leprechaun or a West Virginia Mountaineer?
Speaker 2: Ooh dang, I got serious, Satan boy.
Speaker 3: That's a hell of a question. I'm probably gonna have
Speaker 3: to go with the Notre Dame LEPrecon though. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: heritage there for me personally, so I would go with that.
Speaker 2: Would you be able to grow the beard that you're
Speaker 2: supposed to have with the life that great? Not great?
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that that might be when it comes
Speaker 3: down to like the pros and cons, I might get
Speaker 3: cut because of my horrible beard growing ability.
Speaker 2: But then the mountaineer, Yeah no either. Yeah.
Speaker 3: If I could be the Seaton Hall pirate in the
Speaker 3: like full stuffed head, I could do that.
Speaker 2: Well I could do that real well, you know what
Speaker 2: we should see if you could be the seat in
Speaker 2: the hall mascot for a game? Would you would you
Speaker 2: be the seat and hall mascot for a basketball game?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, hell yeah, as.
Speaker 3: Long as I don't have to like, you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the mascot they're like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's a time out and outcome the trampoline. It's like
Speaker 3: doing a flip and landing his head in the basket.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing any of that.
Speaker 7: Yes, mart Wait, dp I went in. Can I be
Speaker 7: Jonathan Husky and he could be whatever the pirate is?
Speaker 7: Would you be the Husky seat in hall against Yukon?
Speaker 7: Would you be the Husky without come on?
Speaker 2: Okay, of course, all right, PAULI can we get the
Speaker 2: iteam to see if these fine universities would be willing
Speaker 2: to let us put our guys into their mascot Calls
Speaker 2: are already being made so by somebody I don't know
Speaker 2: who will and then you guys have to fight each
Speaker 2: other and then wrestle, and then it becomes a thing
Speaker 2: half court. Yeah yeah, easily, yeah, easily. I mean we
Speaker 2: got to have this go viral. You know, it'll be
Speaker 2: on Sports Center Top ten Plays. It'll be the two
Speaker 2: mascots fighting each other. All right, let me take a break.
Speaker 2: Are the Vikings actually interested in Aaron Rodgers? I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll find out next Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. By the way, the SEC
Speaker 2: with fourteen teams in the tournament, that's most in tournament history.
Speaker 2: The previous mark was set by the Big East with
Speaker 2: eleven in twenty eleven. You know, you start to look
Speaker 2: at these records now. Once again, this is from the
Speaker 2: outside looking in that Texas is nineteen and fifteen, tied
Speaker 2: for the most losses by an at large team in
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament history. I know you're playing against the great schedule.
Speaker 2: Texas and Oklahoma were six and twelve in Big in
Speaker 2: SEC conference play, the worst conference records to ever make
Speaker 2: the tournament.
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Speaker 2: you just how strong the sec was that you were
Speaker 2: just trying to survive, and the fact that fourteen teams
Speaker 2: made it that is surpassing the previous high by three.
Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler, the Mothership senior national NFL writer, joining us
Speaker 2: on the program. So let me start with the Bengals
Speaker 2: last night. Jeremy, your reaction to the Bengals signing those
Speaker 2: guys and what that means for the rest of this
Speaker 2: team on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Dan, So this had been trending this way because
Speaker 11: Friday night there was some momentum that the Bengals were
Speaker 11: going to be able to reach a deal with both
Speaker 11: Jamar Chase and t Higgins, who have the same agent.
Speaker 11: So this became a bit of a package deal a
Speaker 11: couple months ago when Higgins switched agencies, and so, you know,
Speaker 11: it was interesting. The Bengals really a couple months ago
Speaker 11: were telling me that, hey, we're gonna try to sign
Speaker 11: all three of these guys, Chase, Higgins, and Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 11: So they've somehow pulled off two of the three, even
Speaker 11: though they cost themselves millions of dollars waiting on Jamar Chase.
Speaker 11: If they would have signed him maybe eight months ago
Speaker 11: or even six months ago, the price probably would have
Speaker 11: been twenty million dollars less. But he put together this
Speaker 11: triple crown season, so they've cost themselves a lot. Now
Speaker 11: they have Burrow, Chase, higgin On really well over one
Speaker 11: hundred million dollars per year and just cash they're going
Speaker 11: to have to pay these guys, which makes it infinitely
Speaker 11: harder to get Trey Hendrickson done. Even though they're not
Speaker 11: over the eager to trade him, they really haven't engaged
Speaker 11: a lot in teams that have interest, and so they're
Speaker 11: trying to get this done too. I don't know how
Speaker 11: they're gonna pull it off, especially with a team that
Speaker 11: is not really known for this spending at this kind
Speaker 11: of clip, but they are determined to just around Joe
Speaker 11: Burrow what they can. And meanwhile, their defense has like
Speaker 11: minimal parts because they have to somehow draft and develop
Speaker 11: some guys on the cheap.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to understand these owners are smart
Speaker 2: enough to make a billion or two to be able
Speaker 2: to buy these teams. I just don't understand why you don't.
Speaker 2: If you know you're going to keep Jamar Chase, then
Speaker 2: sign sign him when you can. You know the Cowboys
Speaker 2: do this. There's certain teams that you just go, why
Speaker 2: are they waiting? Now? Maybe there's some math involved in this,
Speaker 2: and I'm not smart enough to understand it, but if
Speaker 2: you know you're them, then what are you waiting for?
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a valid argument. You're seeing it right now.
Speaker 11: I mean just an hour ago, Derek Stingley, junior top
Speaker 11: cornerback for the Texans, signs for three years ninety million dollars,
Speaker 11: which is sticker shock for that position. But he's only
Speaker 11: three years into a first round pick deal, so they
Speaker 11: already had him for two years of contractual control.
Speaker 1: You do it.
Speaker 11: Now to be able to spread that money out over
Speaker 11: five years instead of like four, so that helps them
Speaker 11: to do it early. Buffalo is known for that, Like
Speaker 11: they've been really aggressive with all their veteran players this
Speaker 11: offseason to try to get it done. Whatever the price
Speaker 11: is now, it's only going to go up, so I
Speaker 11: think teams are more trying to inherit that logic. The
Speaker 11: Philadelphia Eagles have mastered that. They're really aggressive. But look
Speaker 11: some teams they either don't want to pay it, or
Speaker 11: in some cases, they feel like what the agent and
Speaker 11: the player are trying to get is sort of untenable
Speaker 11: or something they're not comfortable with. I think that happens
Speaker 11: a lot. And look, Dallas, I don't know they'll ever
Speaker 11: say this, but the fact that they have waited on
Speaker 11: some of these it's good for entertainment, keep them in
Speaker 11: the news. We talk about Dallas every day, like Dak
Speaker 11: Prescott and Ceedee Lamb. There has to be a cost, well,
Speaker 11: there has to be a benefit for them associated with
Speaker 11: waiting six months till late August early September, even though
Speaker 11: I think it was two to tango type situation. That
Speaker 11: wasn't all on the team in that case. But it's
Speaker 11: good for business, and Dallas knows that.
Speaker 2: I remember when Dan Rolovsky was on the show and
Speaker 2: he said, you know, I don't think Jerry Jones really
Speaker 2: cares about winning as much as keeping his name his
Speaker 2: team in the news. Like do you It's hard to
Speaker 2: fathom that for a guy who seems desperate to win
Speaker 2: one more Super Bowl, But do you think that's first
Speaker 2: and foremost, that's the game plan? Is We love when
Speaker 2: you talk about the Cowboys. It's good for business.
Speaker 11: I think it's both. Both can be true. You can
Speaker 11: handle all that and still try to win. I was
Speaker 11: looking at my list because before free agency I did
Speaker 11: predict that Dallas would maybe be a little more aggressive
Speaker 11: than they were last year. That people thought, like there's
Speaker 11: assumption that they're really cheap and all this stuff, you know,
Speaker 11: But they signed like up to seven starters last week,
Speaker 11: not a huge money, more role players, but like they
Speaker 11: filled voids of what could be seven of their twenty
Speaker 11: two starters. Like that's pretty I wouldn't call it aggressive,
Speaker 11: but that's like, you know, AMDA shopping, So that's something
Speaker 11: I mean, it's they're not just out here trying to
Speaker 11: put on a bad product. Like they draft pretty well
Speaker 11: and they don't want to overpay for guys, you know.
Speaker 11: It's it's one of those things where they have pay
Speaker 11: their stars, like they paid Dak Prescott, they paid CD Lamb.
Speaker 11: They do have a penchant for doing that. They just
Speaker 11: do it uncomfortably and sort of wait. But you know,
Speaker 11: Micah Parsons will get paid, like unless something goes really
Speaker 11: haywire over the next four months, he will be paid
Speaker 11: to be a Dallas cowboy and he'll be paid handsomely.
Speaker 2: Did the Seahawks have a good week, good couple of
Speaker 2: weeks here I'm trying to gauge. Yeah, I mean, what
Speaker 2: do you think.
Speaker 11: If you feel like Sam Darnald is comparable or like
Speaker 11: maybe eighty percent of the player Gino Smith is, then yes,
Speaker 11: they had a really good week. Dk Metckkev didn't want
Speaker 11: to be there. Gino Smith didn't want to be there,
Speaker 11: based mostly on the contract. I mean, they were whispers
Speaker 11: last year of him being really frustrated that they wouldn't
Speaker 11: redo his deal. And I just think Seattle they showed
Speaker 11: it with Russell Wilson too, like they just don't feel
Speaker 11: like paying quarterbacks these crazy numbers. Like they're taking a
Speaker 11: stand a little bit and saying like we're just not
Speaker 11: going to do that. They were always hesitant to do
Speaker 11: it with Russell Wilson. It got ugly. It got ugly
Speaker 11: with Gino Smith, like they just they want to build
Speaker 11: the roster different ways. You know you're going to see
Speaker 11: the forty nine ers. They've scaled back a bunch of
Speaker 11: salaries in part because they have to pay Rock Purty
Speaker 11: a massive number. Seattle's saying no and I kind of
Speaker 11: respect that Minnesota is saying no. They said no to
Speaker 11: Kirk Cousins last year, So there are different ways to
Speaker 11: build a roster. I think because of that. Like, really
Speaker 11: with Sam Darnold, it's you're getting him for probably ten
Speaker 11: million dollars a year less and the Raiders are going
Speaker 11: to have to pay, you know, Smith, and you got
Speaker 11: a third round pick for flipping him in a trade.
Speaker 11: If you like Sam Darnold lot, that's good value. Like
Speaker 11: they had a good week. You know Cooper Cup he's
Speaker 11: thirty one, some injuries, but like he can still play.
Speaker 11: You know, Dk Metcalf. You never want to trade a
Speaker 11: guy that talent, but they get a Sagrad round pick
Speaker 11: for me. He didn't want to be there and they
Speaker 11: didn't want to pay him. Like so if you're Seattle
Speaker 11: and you say, okay, we don't want to allocate these
Speaker 11: massive resources to these players. They did about the best
Speaker 11: they could. But now they have question marks with a
Speaker 11: team that already had them.
Speaker 2: That's sort of the issue. Help me understand what the
Speaker 2: Vikings are doing. And I don't know if they need
Speaker 2: to say if they've gotten to that point, we're not
Speaker 2: interested in Aaron Rodgers like they could do that and
Speaker 2: you know, put an end to this. Yeah, but they haven't.
Speaker 4: Out the fire.
Speaker 11: You're right, and it's it's curious, and I'm trying to
Speaker 11: find out what that means. The people I've talked to
Speaker 11: with the organization have been pretty consistent with their message
Speaker 11: with me. It's that Aaron Rodgers is possible but unlikely.
Speaker 11: That's sort of the messaging that I've gotten. So that's
Speaker 11: what I'm taking. So I'm leaving room for a wild card,
Speaker 11: something crazy to happen with Rogers. I don't expect it.
Speaker 11: I think they're ready to roll with JJ McCarthy. I
Speaker 11: think it's very possible. They're waiting on some of these
Speaker 11: dominoes to fall and figure out how much money they
Speaker 11: need to spend on a good backup so that it
Speaker 11: doesn't mess up their comp pick formula because they want
Speaker 11: future draft picks. You know, if you spend a certain
Speaker 11: amount of free agency without losing enough players and that
Speaker 11: balance is off, you don't get as many draft picks.
Speaker 11: So that's a consideration for them, so that they're trying
Speaker 11: to play the long game a little bit in the
Speaker 11: smart game and not overreact here because they spend a
Speaker 11: lot of money in other positions last week, but all
Speaker 11: their moves, especially with like two big offensive line signings, says,
Speaker 11: we're all in on JJ McCarthy and his development for
Speaker 11: what they've told me, like he has already proven he
Speaker 11: is going to be their franchise guy. It just depends
Speaker 11: on whether it happens today, four months from today, twelve
Speaker 11: months from today. But they're convinced that, and so they're
Speaker 11: just only willing to go so far. I'd be surprised
Speaker 11: if Rogers is there. I still think he'll be, you know,
Speaker 11: if I had to bet right now at Pittsburgh Steeler. Meanwhile,
Speaker 11: the Giants are just sort of like scouring the earth
Speaker 11: for quarterback help, Like they're still having Jamis Winston come
Speaker 11: in for a visit, Joe Flacco and Russell Wilson was
Speaker 11: there last week, Like they're keeping all their options open
Speaker 11: with the hopes that they can still get Rogers.
Speaker 2: Let's Pittsburgh's plan be.
Speaker 11: That's a great question. So, like, look that last week
Speaker 11: or a week and a half ago, they put together
Speaker 11: an offer for Justin Fields that I was told was
Speaker 11: very competitive with what the Jets offered him, which was
Speaker 11: two years, forty million, with thirty million guaranteed. Something went
Speaker 11: off where he chose the Jets, and he must have
Speaker 11: felt the love more from the Jets than he did
Speaker 11: the Steelers, who essentially benched him last year for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 11: So he gets a fresh start. I do believe they
Speaker 11: were all in on fields. I don't know if they
Speaker 11: had fields ahead of Rogers, but they were willing to
Speaker 11: do fields like both sides at one point where ohto it.
Speaker 11: It didn't work, and so now you know. I just
Speaker 11: checked with the Steelers. They don't have any updates. They're
Speaker 11: waiting on the situation. They're not bringing any other quarterbacks
Speaker 11: in for visits that I'm aware of, so they're not
Speaker 11: playing the Giants game. They're waiting on Rogers. They have
Speaker 11: Mason Rudolph as a backup. Well, they signed him just
Speaker 11: sort of his insurance last year two years, eight million
Speaker 11: dollars because he started games there before. Like if they
Speaker 11: at least know if the bottom falls out, they have
Speaker 11: him and can draft somebody, I think that would probably
Speaker 11: be the play. At this point. They know Russell Wilson. Well,
Speaker 11: I don't sense a lot of momentum with Pittsburgh and
Speaker 11: Russell Wilson at this point, and plus you're going back
Speaker 11: to what your third option. Now, Hey, you started games
Speaker 11: us last year, but now you're at number three. Let's
Speaker 11: make this work. It just doesn't seem like a even marriage.
Speaker 2: Damn. And then the Giants have to wait for everybody, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Giants.
Speaker 11: You know, I do know that Russell Wilson has looked
Speaker 11: at the Giants as a viable option for a while now,
Speaker 11: even da back to the Super Bowl or around the
Speaker 11: end of the season, so he must have seen some
Speaker 11: of those dominoes coming. So I do think that will
Speaker 11: eventually be the play if the money's right. You know,
Speaker 11: I think he still accept himself as a valuable starter
Speaker 11: and that cost money. I'm curious how far teams are
Speaker 11: willing to go just because of the musical chairs. He's
Speaker 11: played the last three years with different organizations at quarterback,
Speaker 11: so you know, he's got a cap where you have
Speaker 11: to work it out financially, and these teams will probably
Speaker 11: probably be looking more for like a lower end bridge deal,
Speaker 11: And I don't know if he's going to accept that
Speaker 11: at this stage, given all that he's done and all
Speaker 11: the Pro Bowls that he's made and the Super Bowl pedigree,
Speaker 11: so that complicates things a little bit. But my sense is,
Speaker 11: you know, if, certainly, if Rogers goes to Pittsburgh, Russell
Speaker 11: Wilson slides right into that giant spot unless things get crazy.
Speaker 2: But can you see the Giants taking Shador Sanders? Could
Speaker 2: you see the Giants actually try I don't know if
Speaker 2: Tennessee's going to actually take cam Ward. They sound like
Speaker 2: they are, but I don't believe anything until it happens.
Speaker 2: But can you see the Giants being a restive with
Speaker 2: either one of these quarterbacks?
Speaker 11: Yes, and even coming even before the Aaron Rodgers talk
Speaker 11: when they were going for Matthew Stafford, like they spend
Speaker 11: a month on trying to get Matthew Stafford and put
Speaker 11: together big financial packages and they were sort of left
Speaker 11: at the altar. But the sense coming out of the
Speaker 11: combine was if they strike out on Stafford, they're going
Speaker 11: to go draft. They're going to go heavy there with
Speaker 11: that third pick, maybe try to trade up. I still
Speaker 11: think that's a possibility if you get Rogers or even
Speaker 11: Wilson to a lesser extent like that at least frees
Speaker 11: you up to not have to do that. If you
Speaker 11: don't want to give up too much, but some of
Speaker 11: that was predicated on Tennessee wanting to move back. It
Speaker 11: does seem like now again, a lot can happen with
Speaker 11: the draft. I won't make sweeping determinations, but from what
Speaker 11: I've gathered, they seem pretty comfortable with cam Ward, like
Speaker 11: there's some momentum there with other teams I've talked to
Speaker 11: league wide that they feel like they're just going to
Speaker 11: sit there and take Ward. I know the interviews of
Speaker 11: the Ward have gone well. They feel comfortable with like
Speaker 11: the mistakes he has made on the field, they feel
Speaker 11: like he's done a good job of explaining those and
Speaker 11: can be coached and correct them. And he's got the
Speaker 11: obvious upside on top of that. So if you equal
Speaker 11: all that out, you know, you send a little momentum
Speaker 11: for the Titans to sit put. That could complicate things
Speaker 11: for the Giants. If they're comfortable with Chador at three
Speaker 11: or even moving up to two, is that too rich
Speaker 11: for them? I think they're weighing all those things. But
Speaker 11: in the short term, they've got to figure this out
Speaker 11: and at least get a solution bird in hand with
Speaker 11: a veteran free agent.
Speaker 2: But can you see the Browns taking Shador Sanders.
Speaker 11: So the Browns have been probably the most unpredictable in
Speaker 11: all this, Like they don't have a lot of money
Speaker 11: to spend. I do think Cousins Kirk Cousins could be
Speaker 11: in play for them because of the familiarity with Kevin Stefanski,
Speaker 11: but there's not.
Speaker 2: Atlanta really is.
Speaker 11: Just they don't want to move them, and then if
Speaker 11: they do move them, they're gonna want somebody to pay
Speaker 11: a good amount of that offset money with the thirty
Speaker 11: seven million dollars they owe them. So that complicates things
Speaker 11: for the Browns because they're Panda Shaun Watson. They're looking
Speaker 11: at guys like Carson Wentz too as sort of contingency plans.
Speaker 11: So they've been all over the map really. You know,
Speaker 11: they acquired Kenny Pickett last week, so they've been tough
Speaker 11: to figure out a little bit.
Speaker 2: I do know that they like.
Speaker 11: Shador to what extent if they're willing to pick them
Speaker 11: two overall, I cannot say. I do know there's some
Speaker 11: love there for Shador Sanders and sort of his computer
Speaker 11: brain to be able to, you know, feel out the
Speaker 11: game mentally, Like they have some respect for what shoudor
Speaker 11: can do in that area, maybe more than some teams.
Speaker 2: Great stuff, Jeremy, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks again, Dan, appreciate it.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: Jeremy Fallon, ESPN senior national NFL writer. I had a
Speaker 2: source tell me NFL scout who says, if I'm a GM,
Speaker 2: what I look at with Shador Sanders is something I
Speaker 2: would be attracted to. He's not afraid of the spotlight.
Speaker 2: He's been in the spotlight. He was a really good
Speaker 2: quarterback for two different schools, made them both competitive. Coloradoo
Speaker 2: had won one game before that. He gets there. Does
Speaker 2: he hold on the ball a little too long? Yes?
Speaker 2: Does he take too many sacks? Yes? I mean there's
Speaker 2: there's negatives with all these guys, but he brought up
Speaker 2: something that I hadn't heard before, and that is he
Speaker 2: goes to the spotlight. He's not afraid of the spotlight,
Speaker 2: and at that position, especially in New York, those are
Speaker 2: positives to me. You can say he's arrogant or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that team was that said, or
Speaker 2: the coach said that maybe he didn't want to go there.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was Cleveland. I don't know. Joe Burrow, if
Speaker 2: you're around Joe Burrow. He is cocky at LSU. He
Speaker 2: was cocky now as he backed it up absolutely Shador
Speaker 2: Sanders is not Joe Burrow. But I think the and
Speaker 2: I've called it a smear campaign. I don't know where
Speaker 2: it came from. I don't know how long it lasts,
Speaker 2: but I can only tell you what I've gleaned from
Speaker 2: a conversation with a source whose job is assessing talent
Speaker 2: and said that would not scare me in the least.
Speaker 2: I want a quarterback who's not afraid. You've got to
Speaker 2: answer questions. You've got to be a leader. Don't be
Speaker 2: afraid and should or Sanders certainly doesn't seem afraid of
Speaker 2: the spotlight. Well, take a break. We will give you
Speaker 2: our best and worst of the weekend right after this.
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Speaker 2: We will check in with the Pittsburgh Steelers coming up
Speaker 2: next hour. Whatever happened to the artist formerly known as
Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns when they were a thing or the
Speaker 2: potential to be a thing. I'm watching them play the Lakers.
Speaker 2: They're non threatening they're thirty one and thirty seven and
Speaker 2: they're not even interesting, which is amazing to have Booker
Speaker 2: and Durant on that team. I never would have brought
Speaker 2: in Bradley Beal, as I've said, if Bradley Beal was
Speaker 2: shooting hoops out here in the man Cave, I might
Speaker 2: go out there and say, but I mean, no offense.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna go see Bradley Beal. Nothing exciting there.
Speaker 2: Gonna have a good career, a financially great career. But
Speaker 2: Durans not could be there next year. Like Devin, Booker
Speaker 2: was one of those great breakout stars, didn't even start
Speaker 2: at Kentucky and then he becomes one of the great scores.
Speaker 2: You know what, it's one of those damn Kardashians that
Speaker 2: brought him down. I think he dated Kendall. I think whoah, yeah,
Speaker 2: not the Kardashian curse. Yes, Now, Tristan Thompson wasn't good
Speaker 2: enough to be affected by the Kardashian curse, right, I think.
Speaker 3: He actually caused them more problems.
Speaker 2: You know, Kanye, did Kim bring Kanye down? Or did
Speaker 2: Kanye bring Kanye down?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 4: I think it made a Kanye thing by himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty good at that. He is pretty good
Speaker 2: at that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The partners are relevant when he comes to Kanye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're interchangeable. Yeah, what are you willing to
Speaker 2: not wear in public?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: I love you, let's get married. Yeah. But the Suns
Speaker 2: I'm watching and it was like they were just the
Speaker 2: other team. And Paulie always goes, why do you do
Speaker 2: this to yourself? I don't know. I just I felt like,
Speaker 2: you know what, let me check in on this. How's
Speaker 2: d book doing? As the kids like to say. Oh yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 3: When I text you and I say what's you doing?
Speaker 5: And you say watching the Raptors, I want to call
Speaker 5: for an intervention.
Speaker 2: I'm considering. I was watching a documentary on the musician
Speaker 2: singer songwriter Tom Waits and it was fascinating. But it's
Speaker 2: probably not going to be in anybody's wheelhouse here. Is
Speaker 2: there anything that somebody's watching because the audience always wants
Speaker 2: to know what are you watching or what are you
Speaker 2: listening to? Marvin, you were watching something on Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 7: Yes, I was watching Kobe The Making of a Legend.
Speaker 7: It's a three part series. It's on Max right now. Okay,
Speaker 7: so it goes into his childhood in Italy and him
Speaker 7: coming over to the States in Philadelphia and then everything
Speaker 7: that went into making him the Black Mamba.
Speaker 2: But he also talks about he had to learn the language,
Speaker 2: like the slang, the slang in the United States.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was on a podcast I forget which one,
Speaker 7: maybe in All the Smoke, and he goes when I
Speaker 7: came to Americas when I was thirteen, and people say
Speaker 7: what's up?
Speaker 4: And he would look up in the air. He's like,
Speaker 4: those are one of those things that would just get me.
Speaker 2: That's so great. What's up? I don't know, God, I'm
Speaker 2: watching White Lotus, I'm watching Reacher. I mean I watched
Speaker 2: a movie with what's his name, Jay Justin hart heart
Speaker 2: No no this well, no, this is a a former
Speaker 2: heart throb. No no, no, he moved to London to
Speaker 2: get away from all the media. Oh well he's he
Speaker 2: plays some slasher who takes his daughter to see a concert.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh Josh Josh Hartner, Josh hart Y. Yeah,
Speaker 2: terrible movie. Yeah, that's a m night. Shyamalan, terrible night.
Speaker 6: Shyamalan really just knocked it out of the park with
Speaker 6: the sixth has.
Speaker 2: Been Uh, Okay, I'm watching that movie and then I
Speaker 2: fast forward because I can't stay on anything for more
Speaker 2: than fifteen minutes. It's terrible. I get I'm watching going,
Speaker 2: you know. He goes and convinces somebody who's related to
Speaker 2: the singer who's probably supposed to be Dua Lipa to
Speaker 2: get you know that she's you know, battling an ill
Speaker 2: or something, and then she gets on stage to be
Speaker 2: able to dance while while she's on stage, and then
Speaker 2: he gets to go and do whatever he's going to
Speaker 2: kill people in the concert. If terrible, terrible.
Speaker 5: Yes, I just finished season one of a show called Paradise.
Speaker 5: The actor Sterling K. Brown, James Marsden, and some others.
Speaker 5: He's really good. I'm gonna give it a full reco Okay,
Speaker 5: first episode has a huge curveball.
Speaker 2: At the end. Stay with it. So Paradise, Paradise. You
Speaker 2: show Paradise Hulu. I think, right, Dylan, you got anything
Speaker 2: that you're watching.
Speaker 6: I actually watched the first two episodes of Paradise and
Speaker 6: it's good. It definitely it takes its tur and I
Speaker 6: was not expecting, but.
Speaker 2: So far, so good, seating you got anything?
Speaker 3: I just watched that movie Nusferatu. Okay, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: was really looking forward to that and maybe not.
Speaker 2: I tried to watch the The Rape Finds was it Covenant?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah with the Bishops. Yeah. I tried, but
Speaker 2: it reminded me of my childhood and way too much church.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, I don't want to do this. Yes.
Speaker 3: I just watched about fifteen minutes of the first episode
Speaker 3: of The New Yellowstone or whatever with Helen Mirren and
Speaker 3: Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford, yeah, yeah, which is like I
Speaker 3: could watch shows like that. I don't really care about
Speaker 3: the story all that much. I kind of just like
Speaker 3: the scenery. Yeah, you know, which I like, it's a
Speaker 3: little weird, but like, I could just watch that. But
Speaker 3: there were parts of it at some point I just
Speaker 3: turned it off because I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: look at Harrison Ford pretended to be a cowboy walking
Speaker 3: down the street. This is hilarious. I just couldn't remove myself,
Speaker 3: like seeing he always has that sort of like bewildered
Speaker 3: and amused face kind of thing, and he's on a
Speaker 3: horse going down looking at this city or town or whatever.
Speaker 2: And nearly and I've been watching Stanley Tucci in Italy Oh, oh,
Speaker 2: I love that. That's great. Great, he was in Bologna.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna move to Bologna.
Speaker 3: Getting all this food. Yeah, the people. That's great, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: Also the sly Stone documentary.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I gotta watch that.
Speaker 4: Very good.
Speaker 2: Yes. Actually I had been calling for that, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Questlove does the documentary I look
Speaker 2: forward to? I had been I'd be like, somebody needs
Speaker 2: to do a documentary on sly and the family Stone.
Speaker 2: He was Prince before Prince Final Hour. We'll check in
Speaker 2: with the Pittsburgh Steelers. More of your phone calls as well,