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Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and love all Things tech. And it is Friday. That

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Speaker 1: means it's time for a classic episode. This episode originally

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Speaker 1: published on March five. It is titled The History of

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Speaker 1: Handheld Gaming, Part two. And if part two is throwing

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Speaker 1: you for a loop, listen to last Friday's classic episode,

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Speaker 1: because that is surprise, surprise, hard one. So let's listen

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Speaker 1: in on this classic episode. The two video game systems

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Speaker 1: that were about to talk about, because they were essentially

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Speaker 1: the same thing but branded under two different names, they

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Speaker 1: did not make the same impact on the market that

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Speaker 1: the game gear did. They did get some popularity in

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Speaker 1: Europe and South America, not in North America as far

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Speaker 1: as I can tell. But these two systems, which again

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Speaker 1: we're pretty much the same thing, we're branded the Mega

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Speaker 1: Duck and Cougar Boy. It does sound like the worst

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Speaker 1: superheroes ever, Mega Duck and Cougar Boy fighting crimes. It's yeah. Again,

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Speaker 1: they're they're cartridge based handheld video game systems. Nothing nothing

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Speaker 1: particularly notable about the mother than the fact that I

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Speaker 1: thought their names were a door. Yeah. Yeah. If if

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Speaker 1: you haven't heard of them, um, you're in pretty good company,

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Speaker 1: especially here in North America. I don't think they ever

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Speaker 1: came to this market. They were mostly in um, Europe

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Speaker 1: and South America. Actually Brazil actually produced some thus Cougar Boy.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so Mega Duck apparently very popular in the

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Speaker 1: Netherlands and Germany. By the way, if any of you

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Speaker 1: own any of the game systems, clearly the more obscure

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Speaker 1: ones that we're talking about, I welcome you to share

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Speaker 1: a picture of holding the handheld game system and share

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Speaker 1: it on our Facebook wall, and we will totally comment

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Speaker 1: on those. Yeah, or or if you if you give

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Speaker 1: us permission to, we will. We will push it along

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Speaker 1: to our to our other yeah, like the tumb twitters

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Speaker 1: and things. Yeah, because you know, I I have owned

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Speaker 1: a couple of handheld gaming systems back in the day,

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Speaker 1: but I never got my hands on a Mega Duck

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Speaker 1: or a Cougar Boy. I I never owned a handheld

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Speaker 1: huh wow. Learning something new about Lauren here. Actually the

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Speaker 1: only one besides the the you know, I mentioned that

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Speaker 1: MATEL Electronics. At least I think I did. I know

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Speaker 1: I played one. I assumed that I owned it. It

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Speaker 1: was back when I was a little kid. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: only one that I can remember owning, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: that long ago when I got it. It It was a

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Speaker 1: game Boy Advance and we'll talk about that in this episode.

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Speaker 1: A little bit later. Moving on, that is when Sega

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Speaker 1: released the Nomad, which was a handheld version of the Genesis. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: the fact that it could actually play Genesis games meant

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Speaker 1: because it already had an established live are to pull from.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, However, the form factor those game cartridges meant

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Speaker 1: that this thing was pretty huge. Yeah, it was really

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Speaker 1: really bulky. Not easy for it, Like it was called

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Speaker 1: this one. One of the peripherals that was that was

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Speaker 1: partly also because Sega had this issue about releasing a

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Speaker 1: lot cutting down on your own market. It's never really

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Speaker 1: Tiger Electronics. And this was a handheld device and remembered

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Speaker 1: So it was a little ahead of its time. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was an ambitious product. Ultimately was not failure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Nintendo released the game Boy Color and that was the

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Speaker 1: Nintendo was really good about being backwards compatible with a

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Speaker 1: Tiger Telematics released the Gizmondo two thousand five, and I

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00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: can't believe that something with that cool of a name

432
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: could possibly flop. Yeah, I know, with the world with

433
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: a name like Gizmondo, the sky is the limit. Gizmondo

434
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: originally was called the Game Track, but that's not nearly

435
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: guess cool as Gizmondo Mondo. So I think that's coming

436
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: out like the Nondo Mondo. So yeah. They showed off

437
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: a prototype of this device back at c E S

438
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: two thousand four, And this one is an interesting game

439
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: system to me, partly because of the operating system it used. Yeah,

440
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was Windows based, Windows CE four point

441
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: two to be specific, right, and so I mean it

442
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: was the first handheld gaming device to actually use the

443
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: Windows platform as its native operating system. And and and and

444
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: partially due to that, it was also kind of hopping

445
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: on to the to the very tail end of of

446
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: that sort of p d A trend or maybe that

447
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: was over, but but just people were thinking a lot

448
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: more about combining different features into devices at this juncture.

449
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: And uh so it also had a camera and GPS

450
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: and texting capabilities, SMS and UH and Bluetooth Bluetooth, right,

451
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: all of those things, and so you think, wow, this

452
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: thing is packed. Why didn't it sell incredibly well? Part

453
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: of that reason was because, uh, well, there were two

454
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: different flavors of gizmutton Do that you could purchase. The

455
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: first one that came out was four hundred dollars. Yes,

456
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: that was unsubsidized four hundred dollars. And when you when

457
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: I say unsubsidized, you may say, what do you mean,

458
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: what was the subsidized version. It's because when the that

459
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: that first one didn't sell basically at all, they came

460
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: out with an ad supported version, Yeah, for two y

461
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: nine dollars. Still didn't do well, and in fact, within

462
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: eleven months of the product launching, the company goes bankrupt. Yeah,

463
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: and it was one of one of those devices that

464
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: initially got a lot of people excited, but the longer

465
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: the saga went, the more skepticism was involved. And by

466
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: the time it launched, I think a lot of people

467
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: felt exactly the opposite of how they had when you know,

468
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: it was just an idea and non an actual product.

469
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: So both the Gizmondo and the aforementioned Engage are frequently

470
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: found on worst console lists ever, like worst console ever,

471
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: not just worst handhelds, not like yeah, no, like this

472
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: is going up against you know, those video game consoles

473
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: that would come out and have three games and then

474
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: disappear forever. These were way up there, and part of

475
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: it is because they were really expensive. They ended up

476
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: costing companies. You know, in this case, it cost a

477
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: company its existence. So it's it's tough, you know. It's

478
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: one of those things you don't want to see it happened.

479
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: There's some schaden freuda there, I'm sure, but you don't

480
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: want to see that ever happen to anybody. Oh sure,

481
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 1: although okay, so so Strangely enough, the next entry on

482
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: our on our list, which would turn into a huge um.

483
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: I hate the word disruptor. I think it's overused, but

484
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: disruptor in the market um was was another multi use device,

485
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the iPhone, introduced by Apple in

486
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: two thousand seven. Yes, so when it first came out,

487
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: it just looked like an amazing device. I don't think

488
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: any of us had uh, the inkling of how disruptive

489
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: it was going to be until the app development really

490
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: started to open up and people began to make games

491
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: specifically for the iPhone. Sure, sure, I mean, of course,

492
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: the iPhone is not a handheld gaming device except for

493
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: the part where you can use it like one, Yeah,

494
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: you can have you. It's a handheld device that can

495
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: play games, so it's really a multi use device. But

496
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: the point here is that it had and it continues

497
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: to have a really big influence on the handheld gaming

498
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: industry as a whole, because you've got some consumers out

499
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: there who say, well, I could buy this single use

500
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: device even if it can play multiple games, it's still

501
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: just a game device. Or I can buy this thing

502
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: that's also a phone and an interactive map and lets

503
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: me connect to the internet and etcetera, etcetera. So it's

504
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: one of those that has really started to take a

505
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: big bite out of the mobile gaming world. Now there

506
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: are different markets, and some of those markets are more

507
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: attuned to those gaming devices than to the smartphone world.

508
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: So it's not the handheld gaming devices are now irrelevant.

509
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like they're they're going obsolete, but

510
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: they're having a tougher time. Come on here and we

511
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: will we will talk more about that um in in

512
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: the the very end of our podcast as we get

513
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: into the current years. But but for now, let's let's

514
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: talk about that. This is a really interesting one to me.

515
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: This came out in two thousand nine and it was

516
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: the game pack GP two x Whiz. Yeah, the GP

517
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: two x Whiz is one of those open source handheld

518
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: gaming systems. It was actually made so that people could

519
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: fiddle around with all the different programming for it and

520
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: create all sorts of applications and games. Again kind of godly. Yeah,

521
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: it's designed for independent developers and and emulators even right right,

522
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: This is going back to that same one we talked

523
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: about the Korean game system we talked about earlier. This

524
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: is kind of similar to that. It had a thirty

525
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: three Mega Hurts processors, so it was, you know, packing

526
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: a bit of a wallet for an open source system,

527
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it was also had really awesome packaging.

528
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean I looked at the packaging. It looks like this,

529
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: this kind of leather bound sort of box that says

530
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: the Whiz on it, and I thought, I want I

531
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: kind of just want the box at this point. It

532
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: was it was really sleek and um and I think

533
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: that two thousand nine was was one of those peaks

534
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: of emulator use that that we've that we've you know,

535
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a it's an undulating wave of people

536
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: who don't really mind kind of pirrating games. Well, in

537
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: some cases it's people who want to have access to

538
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: old titles that are no longer supported. Oh sure, and

539
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: and especially at this particular time point before a lot

540
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: of studios had begun creating legal ports of their games

541
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: for for app stores, because app stores were not in

542
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: two thousand nine what they are today at all. Um So,

543
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: so that was it was it was filling a piece

544
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: of the market that Yeah, it was really quite clever.

545
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: It was going unserved at that point. Yeah, for example

546
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: that then now you can get ports of classic Arcade

547
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: games delivered to like an iPad, you know, you can

548
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: get their apps just for that. But at the time

549
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: that really wasn't that wasn't something you would find. So

550
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: Nintendo and not content to sit back upon its haunches

551
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: and cackle maniacally releases the three D S which I

552
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: was at the E three where the three D S

553
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: D Yeah, uh, it was you know, the win a debut.

554
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: It definitely got a lot of attention because people thought,

555
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: this is it's a brand new handheld from Nintendo, which

556
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: automatically made it really interesting. It also had this three

557
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: D capability. The three D capability was was nifty, but

558
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: also one of those things that people were skeptical about

559
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: because three D has traditionally been a yeah, it's been

560
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: hard to get into the consumer market, right sure, sure,

561
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: although you know glasses free three D is there's always

562
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: more um dynamic I think, to to the consumer market

563
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: then then glasses Yeah, you know when you don't have

564
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: to Yeah, you don't have to keep track of yet

565
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: another piece of equipment, right right, Although of course you

566
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: could also play games in two D, you can have

567
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: to play them in three D. Had a special camera

568
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: where you could take three D pictures, but you can

569
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: only view them on the three D s obviously. Uh.

570
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: It was neat and also had some augmented reality features

571
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: to it. I didn't put that in the notes, but

572
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: I remember getting to play with that where you you

573
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: got like a little card and it had a symbol

574
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: from Mario like it might have one of the question

575
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: mark blocks, and you put it down on a table

576
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: and you hold the camera to it. And you activate

577
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: the correct app on the three D S because it

578
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: wasn't just you know, magically recognizing it, but with the

579
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: right app, it would then have a little virtual character

580
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: pop up on the picture of the whatever card was

581
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: that you had put down on the screen. Right. Yeah,

582
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: so on the screen it looks like there's an actual

583
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: physical character walking around on your table. If you were

584
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: to actually look without using the three D S, you

585
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: would think the person was crazy. But, um, but it

586
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: was really kind of a cool little gimmick. Uh. They'd

587
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: also update this in two thousand twelve as the three

588
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: D S XL. I bet you can guess what that means. Um,

589
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: it didn't perform nearly as well as the company was

590
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: kind of anticipating at first, and they would they would

591
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: splash the price after it had only been on the

592
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: market for a couple of months. Yeah. It was actually

593
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: when I heard that, I thought at first it had

594
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: to be a mistake because Nintendo is not known for

595
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah. Yeah, they usually are very aware of

596
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: what they want a price to be and are very

597
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: savvy about what what the market will handle. Um. But

598
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: but sales did start to pick up over time, and

599
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: and eventually it would it would do really pretty well, um,

600
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: certainly much better than the WEIU, which would launch the

601
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: following year. Yeah. So again this is one of those

602
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: long tail kind of approaches and uh and part of

603
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: that I think was the fact that the games for

604
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: the three D s started to get more and more

605
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: sophisticated and that helped a lot. Also that same year,

606
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven, Sony comes out with a couple

607
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: of things that were big news. One was Experience play

608
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: I remember that at the three as well. People were

609
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: calling it originally the PlayStation phone. Yeah. Yeah, because this

610
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: was another like like the failed Engage uh phone plus

611
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: handheld gaming system. Yeah. It used Android OS originally two well,

612
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: originally two point three, which is gingerbread. It was supposed

613
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: to get an upgrade to ice Cream Sandwich, which is

614
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: Android four point oh. However, Sony did some tests on

615
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: the phone. So Sony Ericsson really I should say, because

616
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: that's the company that actually made the phone. The sub

617
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: company under Sony Sony Ericson made the phone, tested it

618
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: under Android four point oh ice Cream Sandwich and found

619
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: out that it was not very stable, so they ultimately

620
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: decided to keep it at two point three, which disappointed

621
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: some consumers. The same year, Sony also launched the PlayStation Vita,

622
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: which is much more successful than the experien play uh yeah,

623
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: flagship handheld device. It's essentially the replacement for the PlayStation

624
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: and portable to PSP. So Vita has an arm based

625
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: to Giga Hurts processors. Let's got some serious firepower under

626
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: the hood compared to other handheld devices. I know, if

627
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: you're you know, talking about your mega awesome gaming PC

628
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: at home, two giga hurt sounds like nothing, but for

629
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: a handheld device at this time, it was really pretty powerful.

630
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: And it was also one of the big features that

631
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: they touted when they launched the Vita was how it

632
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: could interact with PlayStation home consoles. It had two thumbsticks

633
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: for control, had a lot of buttons, had directional pad

634
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: as well, had WiFi and Bluetooth capability, and you could

635
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: also get a more expensive one that had three G capability.

636
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Of course, you have to get a contract with that.

637
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: All right, guys, we've got a little bit more to

638
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: say about the history of handheld gaming. But first let's

639
00:33:49,000 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: take another quick break. You can't plug in a PSP

640
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: game and play it. It's not compatible in that sense,

641
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: but you could download PSP games, yes, so you could

642
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: purchase PSP games for download and play them on the

643
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Vita that way, So it's a digital download as opposed

644
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: to reading the optical discs. The u m D from

645
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: the old PSPs and the launch price was two fifty dollars,

646
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: although it has since dropped in price, so you can

647
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: you can buy one for less than that. Now, that

648
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: is when we started getting into um gaming tablets. Yeah,

649
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: which you know again like you could look at something

650
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: like the iPad and you can play games on the iPad, right,

651
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: but it was a more devoted device. Yes, couple of

652
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: these were more devoted. Yes, definitely marketed as gaming devices

653
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to this is a general purpose tablet that

654
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: can also play games. So yeah, the Arcos game Pad

655
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: is one of those, another Android based game and also

656
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: open source. So this one, if you were to look

657
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: at one, it looks like a tablet that's had to

658
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: controller like handle things fused on the side. We'll be

659
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: talking about another one in a second, but it's the

660
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: razor edge, but that was a little different. I'll get

661
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: to that in a minute. So these look like it's

662
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: actually part of the case itself. Um. And they had thumbsticks,

663
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: directional pad buttons on those little the little game controllers

664
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: that are fused onto it um And uh yeah, it

665
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: was a pretty powerful device. And the fact that it's

666
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: open source is another one of those things that developers

667
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: really love because they have the chance to make stuff

668
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: without having to jump through any hoops. Um. You know,

669
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: like some of the other companies like Nintendo for example,

670
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: obviously they want to have a good control on quality

671
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: because they learned that valuable lesson from way back in

672
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: three with the video game Crash that you don't control quality,

673
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: you flood the market with crappy stuff and then you

674
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: suffer for it. Well, um, you know. The the downside

675
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: to that is that if you're a little independent developer,

676
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: you may not have the resources that you would need

677
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: to make a game for the kind of platform. So

678
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: this is a very attractive alternative, oh sure. And also

679
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: at the time, game development for mobile platforms was was

680
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: in a crazy boom. Um. In fact, the according to

681
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: digital market analysis company app Annie Global iOS, app store

682
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: game expenditures overtook in handhold console game expenditures overall, So

683
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: so the amount of money being spent on on iOS

684
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Games was way more, or maybe not way more, but

685
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: but it was. It was. It was edging out the

686
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: handheld game system. That's that's big news. And again another

687
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: one of those things where the handheld game industry has

688
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: to take notice and say, we have to acknowledge that

689
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: this is sure, especially after Google Play expenditures would do

690
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: the same thing in early Yeah, and that's as as

691
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: pretty eye opening. Also that's when Razor released the Razor Edge,

692
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: another gaming tablet that I have to s Yes, this

693
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: one run on Windows eight, so runs I guess it

694
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: currently still exists, Yes, it does. It does still exist

695
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: Windows eight, so it's a Windows eight machine. Um. And

696
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: you know, again another one of those that that kind

697
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: of splits off from the crowd. It's not Android or

698
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: its own proprietary system and has an Intel processor. Depending

699
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: upon which one you get, it might be an I

700
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: five or an Ice seven, and uh, you know, is

701
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: high resolution, high performance gaming tablet. It also had a

702
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: snap on kind of case, and the snap on case

703
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: had handles on either side that had additional controls to it,

704
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: so it kind of looks like you're holding a steering

705
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: wheel that's missing the top and bottom and the center

706
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: of the steering wheel instead of it being the horn

707
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: is the screen of the tablet, right, So you could

708
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: actually use this and have a game that uses the

709
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: orientation of the tablet as a control like a driving game,

710
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: and then you steer with the two control sticks that

711
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: you have or the control sticks also had you know,

712
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: thumb sticks, button, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Um. Yeah, I got

713
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: to play with one of these at ce S. It

714
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: was actually as funny because it was, as I recall,

715
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: razor originally would just have a representative holding the razor

716
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: edge and showing it off, or it was inside a

717
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: case and so that as as close as you could get.

718
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: But the longer you stayed at c E S, the

719
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: less they seem to care. So if you happen to

720
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: walk up on the last day and say can I

721
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: can I take the closer look at that, they would

722
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: hand it to you and you're like, wow, this is

723
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I need to remember to book my stay

724
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: to come at the end of CS and not the

725
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: beginning of c E S. Yeah, so it was neat. Again,

726
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: it's pretty high. It's like a high price uh item.

727
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: It's not one of those that I don't think that

728
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: it's necessarily done a huge amount of business. Yeah, and

729
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: it's gotten some flak for being gimmicky for what it is.

730
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for for being as expensive as

731
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: it is having a relatively low capacity for what it does.

732
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: Right and and again, like you were saying, I think

733
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: around this time, we're talking about mobile games just taking off.

734
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, the the amounts of money that people

735
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: were spending on mobile games had been doubling or even

736
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: quadrupling year over year. Handheld gaming was was also still

737
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: climbing in sales, but by less than ten percent year

738
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: of a year. Um And And by by this point

739
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: I mentioned that that in iOS game expenditures had had

740
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: edged out handheld they were far and away doing the best.

741
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: By this point, the dust in absolutely in the dust.

742
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: Um And one of the advantages I think for for

743
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: mobile games here is that they seem to be way

744
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: less seasonal, way less like a treat or a special

745
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 1: occasion kind of purchase than handheld games tend to be. Yeah,

746
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I can I can imagine like it being

747
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: a real impulse by for one thing, the entire experience

748
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: is digital. You're not buying a physical but are like

749
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: a cartridge. You never have to think about walking into

750
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: a store, going to Amazon or whatever. And granted, a

751
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: lot of the handheld devices these days work on that

752
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: same principle, but but the smartphones just had an advantage

753
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: because that's how they always had done it. So also

754
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen, that's when in Video released The Shield,

755
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: another one of those devices I got to see it's

756
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: the s and another when I got to hold after

757
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: sticking around long enough. Um, this one looks a lot

758
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: like an Xbox controller that has a clamshell screen kind

759
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: of welded onto it, although you know you can't open

760
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: and close the screen. It's not like it's stuck in place.

761
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: A touch screen by the way, Yeah, it's touch screen

762
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: and it can run Android games. So if you ever

763
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: wanted to play an Android game using a actual Xbox controller,

764
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: you could totally do that. Uh and I shouldn't say

765
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: it's an Xbox controller, it just looks like one. But

766
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: it also it also could run streaming games that you're

767
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 1: streaming from a PC, right right, So yeah, you run

768
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: like a PC game, but you want to be able

769
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: to play it in the living room or you want

770
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: to lay down in bed and play this game. You

771
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: don't want to and you don't want to take your

772
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: alien wear enormous desktop computer to bed with you because

773
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: it would set the sheets on fire. So you have

774
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: the Nvidios shield instead and just stream the content directly

775
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: to your game, to your your device. And so, yeah,

776
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty cool. The launch price was

777
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: three dollars, which a lot of people kind of you know,

778
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: ball that it is now down to two, so it

779
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: they have cut the price on it again. One of

780
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: those devices that I think has its devoted followers, but

781
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: it's a niche market. Sure was was a good year

782
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: for downgrading. Really. Nintendo released the two DS the year,

783
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: which is a scaled down version of three D S.

784
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah it's one D list. Yeah, also doesn't. When I

785
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: first heard of the two D S, I just imagined

786
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: that it was a three D S that had the

787
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: three D stuff removed. But in fact the foreign factor

788
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: itself is a little different. Instead of being a clamshell,

789
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: it looks it looks like a tablet that has two screens,

790
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: one screen mounted on top of another with a divider

791
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: in between. And it was marketed to a younger audience.

792
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it was definitely its own separate product. Yeah, yeah,

793
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: I know that there are people who question Nintendo's strategy

794
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: with that, but I mean it was really when you

795
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: look at how the Nintendo three DS initially performed, you

796
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: could understand the impetus behind the Sword of Decisions. Sure,

797
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: and Nintendo was also struggling pretty hard. And in this

798
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: general time, they you know that the WEIU was basically

799
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: a flop, and uh they they merged their console and

800
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: handheld teams that year in order to just give anyone

801
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: a boost, or they were pretty desperate, yep, yep. And

802
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: also this most recently three was when we started seeing

803
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: companies like Microsoft and Sony show off the interoperability between

804
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: tablets and their their new consoles, the Xbox One in

805
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: the PlayStation four. The idea being that you could use

806
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: a tablet to play a play along with a game

807
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: that's already in the going on in some other format,

808
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: ye to have a second screen for mini games or

809
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: side information, or you have just a totally different, um,

810
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: a totally different function to fulfill in the team. Right.

811
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: So the one that I kept on seeing over and

812
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: over again was let's say it's a squad based kind

813
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: of game where you've got four or five people playing

814
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: on an Xbox on their Xbox one with their controllers

815
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: and everything, and then you have another member who's using

816
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: the tablet as a tactical uh kind of interface, so

817
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: they're coordinating. They're saying, okay, uh, you know, Uni, bravo,

818
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: you need to advance two feet and then turn left,

819
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: you know. So they could actually kind of be extra

820
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: set of eyes, which I thought was a really cool idea.

821
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: I have yet to see that in action in a

822
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: way that really has grabbed me, but I love that.

823
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: I love the concept. Yeah, justin it's a really good application.

824
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: That killer app. It's got to have that killer app.

825
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is kind of bringing us up to today.

826
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: We talked about how Nintendo has been really kind of struggling.

827
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: There's been rumors about them getting into some form of

828
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: partnerships with phones. Yeah, they're so so they've been operating

829
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: at a loss for a solid two years in a

830
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: row as of as of when we're recording this podcast

831
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: in I'm late February to be specific. Um, and it's

832
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: it's sounding like they're they're considering developing like device hardware

833
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: that will help link their handheld and sold markets and

834
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: focusing on that rather than trying to port their games

835
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: and characters to existing smartphone experiences. And Nintendo has a

836
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: reputation for really wanting to control everything about the experience,

837
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: so I can understand why they would be reluctant to say,

838
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: license their characters or to port their games over to

839
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: a platform they don't have control over, which is what

840
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: would happen if they created You know, Super Mario for

841
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: iOS doesn't stop people from trying to create clone games

842
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: of it, but certainly not and and emulators do exist. Yeah,

843
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: but you can understand why Nintendo says, no, we want

844
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: to be able to make sure that our players have

845
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: the best experience possible. Now you can debate on whether

846
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: or not, you know, how successful they are in their

847
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: own right on doing that, but there's no debate on

848
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: the fact that if you don't have control the platform,

849
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: you can't make that guarantee at all. So that's their idea.

850
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: And then also finally kind of wrapping this up, and

851
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: those some of the most recent news you have this

852
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: about a a Samsung device right right, it's called the

853
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: game pad right right now, I think it's only in

854
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: Germany and Korea, but they're planning on rolling it out worldwide.

855
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I believe it's a It's a Bluetooth smartphone accessory, which

856
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: I think is really interesting because because again going back

857
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: to the fact that mobile apps are really overtaking other

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Speaker 1: forms of handheld gaming, and it lets you it lets

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Speaker 1: you dock your device in in this controller plus screen

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Speaker 1: holder thing. You're you're not literally docking, You're not connecting,

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Speaker 1: You're not connecting the device to this stuff only via Bluetooth.

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Speaker 1: Only via Bluetooth, right, um and and it turns your

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Speaker 1: phone into a handheld Android based gaming system. You can

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Speaker 1: use any Android based phone or many Android based phones anyway,

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Speaker 1: as long as they have appropriate Bluetooth connectivity. They don't

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Speaker 1: just have to be Samsung's um and and and there

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Speaker 1: are plenty of other products on the market that have

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Speaker 1: done similar stuff. I know that, like Logitech has one

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Speaker 1: for for iOS SUM or iPhones. Specifically, it would have

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Speaker 1: to be much larger to accommodate uh iPad um. But

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting that it was being

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Speaker 1: offered by a device company and and therefore kind of

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Speaker 1: being this entry into the market that's like, hey, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe ignore those handheld gaming devices over there and really

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Speaker 1: just turn turn your phone into your new gaming device. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: especially if that means they can get in on the

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Speaker 1: peripheral side and not have the burden of producing a

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Speaker 1: full handheld system that could totally tank in the marketplace.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, exactly. I mean, and it's only I think

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Speaker 1: it's only like ninety bucks or thereabouts and in the

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Speaker 1: equivalent euro got gotcha. So we might see that expand beyond.

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Speaker 1: And uh, they'll be interesting to see how handheld gaming

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Speaker 1: progresses from here. There are a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: still predict that smartphones will essentially obliterate handheld gaming, and

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Speaker 1: the only the only people that will are the only

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Speaker 1: companies that remain will be the open source ones that

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00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: are cattering to a very specific niche audience. So they're

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Speaker 1: doing it on a much more modest basis. They're not

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Speaker 1: they're not producing millions and millions of units. They might

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Speaker 1: be producing maybe a hundred thousand. But we'll have to see,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, I could I don't know, I could see

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Speaker 1: some systems kind of kind of going away. But I

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Speaker 1: would be really personally sad if Nintendo didn't have an

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Speaker 1: active handheld on the market. Yeah, well, especially seeing as

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Speaker 1: how they've struggled so much with the the home with

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Speaker 1: the consoles. Consoles, yeah recently so in anyway, that is

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Speaker 1: the history of the handheld electronic gaming device. Like we said,

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Speaker 1: we didn't mention in everything that's out there, certainly not

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Speaker 1: if we missed one of your favorites. Here's what you

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Speaker 1: can do. You can send us a message and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: Lauren and Jonathan, I know you didn't have time to

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Speaker 1: mention x handheld gaming console, but it's really cool and

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Speaker 1: here's why. And here's a picture of me with my

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Speaker 1: ex gaming console and here's a list of my favorite

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Speaker 1: games for EX gaming console. That's the way to do it.

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Speaker 1: Don't say you guys are stupid because you didn't mention

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Speaker 1: the blah blah blah, because that's that's the email equivalent

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Speaker 1: of unplugging someone's controller when they're in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a really good a bout of I like like punch out.

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Speaker 1: And that wraps up that classic episode of tech stuff.

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Speaker 1: Hope you guys enjoyed it. I do hope that I

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Speaker 1: can go back and revisit this, maybe do another intrigue

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Speaker 1: into the series, or you know, I tend to do

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Speaker 1: things a little differently now than I did a few

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Speaker 1: years ago. So maybe I'll even like take a much

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Speaker 1: deeper dive into handheld gaming. Who knows. If you guys

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Speaker 1: have interest in that, or if there's some other topic

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Speaker 1: you would love for me to cover on tech Stuff,

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Speaker 1: reach out and let me know. The best way to

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Speaker 1: do that is over on Twitter, where we use to

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Speaker 1: handle tech stuff hs W and I'll talk to you

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