Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff. I'm Jacob Schick and I'm
Speaker 1: joined by my co host and wife, Ashley.
Speaker 2: Shik Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm
Speaker 2: a gold Star granddaughter, and we work together to serve
Speaker 2: military veterans, first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families
Speaker 2: with mental and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy.
Speaker 2: At One Tribe Foundation, we believe everyone.
Speaker 1: Has a story to tell, not only about the peaks,
Speaker 1: but also the valleys they've been through to get them
Speaker 1: to where they are today.
Speaker 2: Each week, we invite a guest to tell us their story,
Speaker 2: to share with us the lessons they've learned that shape
Speaker 2: who they are and what they're doing to pay it
Speaker 2: forward and give back.
Speaker 1: Our mission with this show is to dig deep into
Speaker 1: our guest's journey so that we can celebrate the hope
Speaker 1: and inspiration their story has to offer.
Speaker 2: And we're thrilled you're joining us again.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff. We have the gift of
Speaker 1: getting to hang out with one of the nicest people
Speaker 1: in the world who also happens to be really good
Speaker 1: at beating people up. Today's guest is Randy Gettuur, who
Speaker 1: I've been friends with for years after getting to know
Speaker 1: him through various fundraising events and motorcycle rides.
Speaker 2: And you may know him from being a Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame six time world Champion UFC fighter, or as an
Speaker 2: actor in countless projects, including The Expendables, and he's an
Speaker 2: Army veteran. He's here to tell us the story of
Speaker 2: being raised by a single mother, how he discovered his
Speaker 2: love of wrestling, and his path to becoming a champion.
Speaker 1: He's nice enough to record this episode over zoom, even
Speaker 1: though those AirPods kept not only popping out, but shooting
Speaker 1: out of his califlowers.
Speaker 2: Here's Randy Gattuur.
Speaker 3: Just start back. You got it, the benefits of cauliflower year.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice ever, Keith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure it's thirty because it's the first thing that
Speaker 3: some people notice, like they can't stop staring at it. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 3: other people have known me for years. I'm glad. I
Speaker 3: just got back from Bulgaria. And of course you're here
Speaker 3: to do the pick up scenes with fifty s And
Speaker 3: a big part of the scene was about my ear.
Speaker 3: As usual. Expendable, so all by college buddies lose their
Speaker 3: body when that stuff comes on it's a blast.
Speaker 1: So one of the first pictures I showed ash, you
Speaker 1: sent me a picture where you stabbed some cauliflower and
Speaker 1: then held it up to your ear. I said, just
Speaker 1: to give you an idea who Randy is. He's the
Speaker 1: real deal. There's no nothing manufactured about this guy. You've
Speaker 1: been there for me and for guys that I know
Speaker 1: that served that have been either battling cancer or just
Speaker 1: been dealt cards that they didn't ask to be dull,
Speaker 1: and you've just always been a stand up dude. And
Speaker 1: I remember the first time we met years ago at
Speaker 1: one of your events. It was one of your rides,
Speaker 1: was pokeron in Vegas for Extreme director from Foundation, and
Speaker 1: I just appreciate the human you are.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I've seen you around a lot of people before you
Speaker 1: take the stage and rock the microphone. You're so gracious man,
Speaker 1: and you don't big time people. I think that's why
Speaker 1: people just gravitate to you, because not only are you
Speaker 1: this badass fighter, but you love hard man and it's palpable.
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the reasons is people
Speaker 1: feel it, and I know I have. Before we kick
Speaker 1: this off, I just want to say thank.
Speaker 3: You for that man. Thank you. I appreciate that very much, Jake. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we put another one out come on.
Speaker 1: This is awesome.
Speaker 3: This is this is the challenge trying to get things
Speaker 3: to stay in these damn ears.
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Like, if that's the biggest struggle you
Speaker 1: have this week, that's a win.
Speaker 3: Yeah ah, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: Well, we are so thrilled and so honored today to
Speaker 2: have our next guest here on the Good Stuff Randy Couture,
Speaker 2: the Natural, a six time UFC champion act Jim owner
Speaker 2: father also runs the Extreme cature g I Foundation, which
Speaker 2: serves combat veterans in need and motorcycle enthusiast and great friend.
Speaker 2: Thank you Randy so much for being on the Good Stuff.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate you having me on so pleasure.
Speaker 2: Jake has told a lot of stories about the two
Speaker 2: of you in the time that you've spent together. We
Speaker 2: won't tell those on the Good Stuff.
Speaker 1: But well, the good thing is just like they're really
Speaker 1: other than just being horrible up singing karaoke.
Speaker 2: I'm just impressed that you actually got him to sing Karyo.
Speaker 1: Liquid courage was involved drinking. There are some liquid courage.
Speaker 2: Jake is now five years sober.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is amazing.
Speaker 1: Good for you, bro, been actively trying to get the
Speaker 1: crutches out, and I have one hundred percent accountability and
Speaker 1: with my everyday life and trying to be a legitimate, walking, eating,
Speaker 1: breathing example for our boys and just let them see
Speaker 1: what ability looks like and that every decision has a consequence.
Speaker 2: You got to own it all that to say, we
Speaker 2: do go deep here on the good stuff. The whole
Speaker 2: point is to be vulnerable and talk about the hard
Speaker 2: times in life so that we can celebrate the great
Speaker 2: times in life. Is there a time or a story
Speaker 2: that you can remember in your path where you went
Speaker 2: through something that really helps shape the man that you
Speaker 2: are today.
Speaker 3: Gosh, I've had a few of those instances in my
Speaker 3: life for sure. Growing up in a single parent household
Speaker 3: up in Seattle, my mom kind of toning the line,
Speaker 3: raising three of us by ourself with literally no support
Speaker 3: or little of no support definitely set the stage, I think.
Speaker 3: And you can use those circumstances as an excuse to
Speaker 3: make a lot of piss poor decisions, but I think
Speaker 3: being the person I was, I use them to motivate
Speaker 3: me to head in the right direction, to make some
Speaker 3: choices that put me in the right places and got
Speaker 3: me the right people that I needed to get through
Speaker 3: those circumstances. And those coaches were very important. I mean,
Speaker 3: walk down arrest on that hoping to get a dead
Speaker 3: beat dad's attention and didn't work. He never saw me
Speaker 3: wrestle in a single match my entire career. But I
Speaker 3: found the place that I seemed to fit or it
Speaker 3: seemed to flourish. Some of my best friends were guys
Speaker 3: I was sweating and bleeding with on those mats, and
Speaker 3: those coaches were very important people, and I needed to
Speaker 3: kick any ass. They were the guys to step up
Speaker 3: and do that. I needed someone to throw an arm
Speaker 3: around me and give me a Dutch rub and say
Speaker 3: it's gonna be all right, man, You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 3: They were the guys that do that too. And junior
Speaker 3: high school coach John K. Spear still good friends with
Speaker 3: him to this DAYE an amazing man. I don't think
Speaker 3: he realized the impact he had on so many of us.
Speaker 3: Coach backer boy in high school old football coach never
Speaker 3: wrestled a day in his life, but he was a
Speaker 3: great wrestling coach. He was a disciplinarian and kept us
Speaker 3: on task. And I won my first championship with him
Speaker 3: as a state champion in nineteen eighty one, my senior
Speaker 3: year in high school. And see how you sound like
Speaker 3: my girlfriend?
Speaker 2: Nobody liked the bragger Randy that.
Speaker 3: It's easy for She slaps through with that all the time. Oh,
Speaker 3: when I was six, what.
Speaker 2: Were you like as a teenager?
Speaker 3: I was pretty shy. Around my friends, I would open up,
Speaker 3: but certainly around adults, I was pretty shy, kept to myself,
Speaker 3: soft spoken, some might say, until you turn me loose
Speaker 3: on a wrestling matt or on a football field, and
Speaker 3: then that's where all that came out, was there? I
Speaker 3: was never in fights, well, I think I was in
Speaker 3: two fights all through school. Never any trouble on athlete.
Speaker 3: Probably I just didn't get caught. That's the truth of
Speaker 3: that situation.
Speaker 2: How did you wind up on a mat in the
Speaker 2: first place? If you were shy and you weren't a fighter,
Speaker 2: How did that even come about?
Speaker 3: My best friend at that time, his name was Bobby Stevenson.
Speaker 3: He had two older brothers, David and John, and they
Speaker 3: were both on the wrestling team and the junior high
Speaker 3: school we were at grade schoolers. We're in sixth grade.
Speaker 3: Bobby's like, Hey, we're going to go watch my brother's wrestling.
Speaker 3: You want to go, And I'm like, hell yeah. We
Speaker 3: get in the car, go with his parents, go to
Speaker 3: watch John at David Wrussell in this tournament. It was
Speaker 3: the district and they happened to have a novice division
Speaker 3: that they'd implemented for kids, and John and David thought
Speaker 3: it was funny to throw me and Bobby into the
Speaker 3: novice division tournament. Never wrestled the day in my life.
Speaker 3: I pain a kid with a headlock. I got my
Speaker 3: first bloody nose, and I'm like this was amazing, Like
Speaker 3: I just had a blast. So I think in my
Speaker 3: young mind, I thought, wow, I haven't heard of my
Speaker 3: whole life what a great wrestler head was, And maybe
Speaker 3: he'll come round, Maybe you'll you'll want to come see
Speaker 3: your wrestle. So that next year I rolled into seventh
Speaker 3: grade at All the Way Junior High School and coach
Speaker 3: K Spear was the same pee teacher and coach that
Speaker 3: had been running that tournament. He remembered me. He said, hey,
Speaker 3: wrestling starts next week. I'll see you there, And I
Speaker 3: was like, all right, I've been wrestling ever since.
Speaker 2: What was your first big win that you can remember.
Speaker 3: I won the state championship in nineteen eighty one, my
Speaker 3: senior year in high school. I'd never been to the
Speaker 3: state tournament before that. I qualified as an alternate the
Speaker 3: year before wrestling two weight class is above my weight.
Speaker 3: I couldn't make my varsity team. You know. It was
Speaker 3: five hundred at best that season. And I going into
Speaker 3: my senior year, I sat down with my mom, I
Speaker 3: want to be a state champion this year in wrestling,
Speaker 3: and said, I'm working twenty thirty hours a week to
Speaker 3: be able to pay my car insurance and put gas
Speaker 3: in my car so I can drive to school. And
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think I can do that and
Speaker 3: achieve this goal. And my mom said, look, I believe
Speaker 3: in you. You can take the next four or five
Speaker 3: months off from your job. I'll pay your car assurance,
Speaker 3: I'll pay for your gas money. And so I went
Speaker 3: about writing that plan down. I wouldn't go from where
Speaker 3: I'm sitting right now in Las Vegas to Dallas, Texas
Speaker 3: wherever you all are at, without a map, And you
Speaker 3: better sit down and draw a map. Figure out all
Speaker 3: those steps rolls off your tongue very easily to say
Speaker 3: I want to be a state champion, But how am
Speaker 3: I actually going to get there? Because from where I'm
Speaker 3: sitting then to where I want to be down the
Speaker 3: road in five months is a long ways away.
Speaker 2: How did you not to do that?
Speaker 3: I didn't. Literally I was doing this stuff on a whim,
Speaker 3: had no idea that I was visualizing. Coach Kseper had
Speaker 3: all these tagboard signs in a stage where we wrestled,
Speaker 3: where we practiced. He had all the takedowns, all the reversals,
Speaker 3: all the escapes, and I used to memorize those and
Speaker 3: sit at home at night while I was going to
Speaker 3: bed and visualize each one of those ones I knew,
Speaker 3: and then sooner or later I knew all of them
Speaker 3: on the list. No idea how to visualize or what
Speaker 3: I was doing. I literally fell into the same thing.
Speaker 3: No one had ever talked to me about setting goals
Speaker 3: or how to map that out or I had a
Speaker 3: fair idea what I needed to do, and I started
Speaker 3: writing down a plan and this is how I think
Speaker 3: I need to be to get to that. And this
Speaker 3: was what led to the conversation with my mom, which
Speaker 3: allowed me to stop working at the grocery store as
Speaker 3: a box boy and start doing the extra lifting, start
Speaker 3: doing the extra running, doing the extra drilling, and practice
Speaker 3: time and being diligent in all those things. I practice.
Speaker 3: All that stuff was written in a journal. I had
Speaker 3: no idea, why are what motivated me to do it?
Speaker 3: Come to find out, I was doing exactly the right thing,
Speaker 3: And I had no idea.
Speaker 2: I had a great mother as well, who always was
Speaker 2: just hammering at us. You know, set goals, reach for this,
Speaker 2: no self doubt, keep going, you get in your own way.
Speaker 2: But few short years later you're a father.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen, had a family on the way. Dated the
Speaker 3: same girl my whole senior year in high school, and
Speaker 3: she stayed in Seattle at University of Washington, and I
Speaker 3: went across the state, the Washington State, which was eight
Speaker 3: hours away, and so I said, man, I can't imagine
Speaker 3: going to college my freshman year and dating somebody that's
Speaker 3: living clear across the state. So we kind of parted
Speaker 3: ways after our senior year and I came home. I
Speaker 3: lost in the challenge match to make the varsity team.
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving was the first big tournament in the resting season.
Speaker 3: Usually every year but in nighteen, so I'm not going
Speaker 3: on the trip. Might as well take the bus across
Speaker 3: the state and go home for Thanksgiving and seeing my family.
Speaker 3: Ended up going out on a date with Sharon, my
Speaker 3: girlfriend that whole senior year. Go back to Washington State
Speaker 3: and I get a phone call, Hey, I'm pregnant. You know,
Speaker 3: don't what to do. She was like, look, I'm having
Speaker 3: this baby. Whether you're in or it doesn't matter. I'm
Speaker 3: having this baby. So the ball was definitely in my court.
Speaker 3: I went on autopilot. I was like, I am not
Speaker 3: going to be like my dad was. I'm going to
Speaker 3: be part of this kid's life. And that was a
Speaker 3: huge decision. I quit school right there, went to an
Speaker 3: art recruiter, took the ASVAD, qualified and joined the service
Speaker 3: to support a new family on the way. I went
Speaker 3: on the layed entry. I wasn't going to get in
Speaker 3: too basic training till that next October. So October nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty two, I left for basic training. My son had
Speaker 3: just been born that August before I left. Ryan, that's
Speaker 3: my oldest Scared out of my mind was a nineteen
Speaker 3: year old to be a parent and all this responsibility,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden that came with the decision to
Speaker 3: go on that date when I was hope for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: Sharon is an amazing person. She's in the great mother
Speaker 3: and an amazing person. We have two great kids. Amy
Speaker 3: was born when we were stationed in Germany a couple
Speaker 3: of years later, been six years wearing that uniform. And
Speaker 3: then the next big decision, have two kids. Now, have
Speaker 3: the opportunity to keep wrestling and doing what I'm doing
Speaker 3: in the service, pursuing that Olympic dream of you know,
Speaker 3: making that Olympic team, or am I going to get
Speaker 3: out and take this scholarship. I basically ended up being
Speaker 3: an alternate on the Ada Olympic team as a soldier.
Speaker 3: So all these college coaches are like, where the hell
Speaker 3: did this kid come from? And because I basically joined
Speaker 3: that service right away, my clock stopped as far as
Speaker 3: matriculation in college, and so I had had four years eligibility.
Speaker 3: So all this all the college coaches started calling. Now
Speaker 3: I'm fielding all these college from all these great colleges
Speaker 3: wanting me to come wrestle for them. And it was
Speaker 3: a big decision for me, was I got to keep
Speaker 3: doing what I was doing, support my family, as a
Speaker 3: soldier wearing that uniform, or was I going to get
Speaker 3: out and try and get that college degree? And they
Speaker 3: are my Army coach Floyd Winter again those coaches is
Speaker 3: we're very important guys. He encouraging me to get out. So, no,
Speaker 3: I think you need to get out. You're crazy if
Speaker 3: you don't take that scholarship at Oklahoma State it's one
Speaker 3: of the best wrestling schools in the country. And pushed
Speaker 3: being he was sure he would have loved to keep
Speaker 3: me on the team and keep me in the service,
Speaker 3: keep me winning championships for him, but he did what
Speaker 3: was best for me and pushed me to get out
Speaker 3: and take the scholarship. That was a huge decision for me,
Speaker 3: and a very scary decision with two kids and a
Speaker 3: wife and a family to support, to go try and
Speaker 3: see if after six years of being in the uniform,
Speaker 3: if I had what it took to be a college
Speaker 3: student again. I mean, it was crazy, but it worked out.
Speaker 2: Does Ryan ever say to you like that if it
Speaker 2: weren't for me, you know, your whole life been Does
Speaker 2: he ever?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, he's never you know, never had that conversation. Obviously.
Speaker 3: I think he could do the bath and figure out
Speaker 3: how things went down.
Speaker 2: How would you describe your time in the army looking
Speaker 2: back now?
Speaker 3: Formative? It was nineteen between my junior and senior year.
Speaker 3: I went to Europe for three weeks, first time really
Speaker 3: out of the country other than going to Canada or
Speaker 3: Mexico and seeing other cultures. And it was in a
Speaker 3: humanities class. And that summer, our humanities teacher and social
Speaker 3: spence teachers all got together and they took sixty of
Speaker 3: us overseas for three weeks. I work all year saving money. First,
Speaker 3: catching chickens, the nastiest, nastiest job. Oh yes, the nastiest
Speaker 3: job I've ever had in my life, literally wading through
Speaker 3: barns full of thousands and thousands of chickens and chicken shit.
Speaker 3: But it was six dollars an hour in the late
Speaker 3: seventies early eighties. That was a lot of damn money.
Speaker 2: What would you do with the chickens once you caught them, they.
Speaker 3: Were going to go to the slaughterhouse and be slaughtered
Speaker 3: for food. Somebody has to catch him and put him
Speaker 3: in those trucks and take them to the slaughterhouse. So wow,
Speaker 3: that was us.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me that didn't help with your footwork.
Speaker 3: We got creative, for sure. We got into some trouble.
Speaker 3: Our boss, mister Potter, was not too keen on us
Speaker 3: playing football with the chickens. And yeah, how do people
Speaker 3: don't realize there, I've never been around that many chickens,
Speaker 3: but they're urine species, is right. With ammonia, it is
Speaker 3: it makes you literally makes your eyes water. It's so
Speaker 3: strong in those barns. There's eighteen to twenty thousand chickens
Speaker 3: and one of those barns, so it's crazy. All right,
Speaker 3: where'd that one go? We got an ear pod that
Speaker 3: shot across the room.
Speaker 1: It's because pressure these thunders.
Speaker 3: All right, let me find my earpod one real quick.
Speaker 3: There it is, I got it, all right.
Speaker 2: So you've you've now served with one hundred and first
Speaker 2: Airborne and got out. Did you ever prior to that
Speaker 2: have a desire to serve your country?
Speaker 3: Why? It was one of those kids with my cousins
Speaker 3: and my buddies. We ran around with sticks, steating out
Speaker 3: each other belly. We're all in through the grass and
Speaker 3: all of that. My dad was a Navy man back
Speaker 3: in the Bay of Pigs Era. He was a CBE
Speaker 3: in the Navy. My uncle was on the Kittie Hawk,
Speaker 3: and nom my great grandfather, Arthur Griggs, drove for General
Speaker 3: maccarson and will work due. So definitely had some history
Speaker 3: there that I was aware of, but wasn't something I
Speaker 3: ever set out to do. I literally was scrambling to
Speaker 3: find a way to support a new family, and this
Speaker 3: was one of those light bulb moments, Oh that'll work.
Speaker 3: I can do that. And what I didn't want to
Speaker 3: do is go live in our parents' house and see
Speaker 3: how that went. I was way too independent to want
Speaker 3: to do that or to think that was going to work.
Speaker 3: The Army solved that problem. I honestly never didn't see
Speaker 3: a Navy or recruiter. The only recruiter in Pulman, Washington
Speaker 3: that I saw was an Army recruiter. So that was
Speaker 3: the one I walked into and took the test, and
Speaker 3: obviously things worked out huge decision for me. I went
Speaker 3: to the Eedy eight trials that summer, was an alternate
Speaker 3: on the team, literally two matches away from making the
Speaker 3: Olympic team, and I was wrestling at a level and
Speaker 3: I'd never expected to be at. I think during that
Speaker 3: time in the Army, I believed I learned and developed
Speaker 3: the confidence that I could compete at that level, and
Speaker 3: I don't think that was there before that, And now
Speaker 3: they want me to go to a whole new level.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, holy shit, talk about a butt pucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: You know, I was like, man, and now how am
Speaker 3: I going to support my two kids and my wife?
Speaker 3: And what if this dodn't work? You know, I was
Speaker 3: a pretty good student. I didn't apply myself. I literally
Speaker 3: got e's and b's without trying, So it wasn't like
Speaker 3: I was a dummy, but it was still six years
Speaker 3: since I'd been in that kind of mode, in that
Speaker 3: environment as a student at a college Division one college.
Speaker 3: And there was definitely a scary decision for me driving
Speaker 3: out of Fort cambl Kentucky for Stillwater, Oklahoma, car packed
Speaker 3: and loaded with the kids and everything, and I pulled
Speaker 3: into town and first person we met, we're staying at
Speaker 3: a hotel too, We could find an apartment, and everybody
Speaker 3: was just so dang friendly, so amazing in that you know,
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I am definitely in the right place.
Speaker 3: It was a lot different than the way you get
Speaker 3: treated around the military base and living just off the base,
Speaker 3: and seems weird how much finance and you know, how
Speaker 3: much money we bring into those communities, but those communities
Speaker 3: a lot of times aren't very friendly or kind to
Speaker 3: us around the bases. I don't think a lot of
Speaker 3: folks know that, but that's just how it is. And
Speaker 3: so yeah, you know, I was almost immediately elated that
Speaker 3: here we were and it was it looked like everything
Speaker 3: was positive. They were all positive sides, that this was
Speaker 3: going to be a good decision and things were going
Speaker 3: to work out. Transition, as you know, Jake, is a
Speaker 3: real challenge for a lot of folks, and walking away
Speaker 3: from that piece of who I was for six years,
Speaker 3: I wore that uniform. That was a huge part of
Speaker 3: my identity and who I was. Thankfully, that college scholarship
Speaker 3: was my built in purpose. I had no time to
Speaker 3: think about what the hell am I going to do
Speaker 3: now and who the hell am I get from? God?
Speaker 1: Right there, bro Absolutely, and you know that, you know that,
Speaker 1: no doubt.
Speaker 3: I was so blessed and fortunate that my purpose was
Speaker 3: already built in. I'm going to go get my college degree,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to win a national championship in collegiate
Speaker 3: wrestling and set about doing that and then again awesome experience.
Speaker 3: And I think being a cowboy wrestling for the Cowboys
Speaker 3: at Oklahoma State, I developed that confidence that I cannot
Speaker 3: just compete at that level, but I could win. I
Speaker 3: could win at that level.
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about it all the time on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: Coaches, I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Just makes such a huge impact on our lives. Myself
Speaker 2: and Jay concluded with Texas high school football and cheer
Speaker 2: and dance, Like it seems like almost everyone we've talked
Speaker 2: to it, there's been a coach. It's just such an
Speaker 2: important rule.
Speaker 1: I mean literally, if it wouldn't for my coaches and
Speaker 1: for football, like, I wouldn't be alive. They're so influential
Speaker 1: and makes such an impact. And yeah, like you said too,
Speaker 1: I don't think that they realize it. I don't think
Speaker 1: that they even know because they're just doing what they're
Speaker 1: passionate about doing. But it has so much power and
Speaker 1: so much longevity and sustainability in one's well being if
Speaker 1: you implement the lessons taught later on. You know, Jackson
Speaker 1: is eleven and he's playing football and Texas at me
Speaker 1: it's a religion. His coach is pretty tough. He's no
Speaker 1: fluff and doesn't put up with any antics, And I
Speaker 1: said Jackson. In my senior year, I was voted to
Speaker 1: captain my team, and I had this kind of love
Speaker 1: hate relationship with my head coach. I was never really
Speaker 1: receptive to authority. I wanted to question.
Speaker 2: Everything, unlike you, Jake always fought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it was way different. I did get caught
Speaker 1: like every time. I wasn't good at not getting caught.
Speaker 1: And I told Jackson, I was like, look, Bud, here's
Speaker 1: the deal. You never know what the reason is behind
Speaker 1: anything they're doing, but I promise you there is a reason,
Speaker 1: I said jack One of the coolest things I ever
Speaker 1: experienced that had nothing to do with being on a
Speaker 1: football field was it the day during our awards ceremony
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps after the guys got home, and
Speaker 1: the day that I got my purple heart. Damn near
Speaker 1: fainted because I had this major infection inside my body.
Speaker 1: I told you about this years ago. I ended up
Speaker 1: having to fly back San Antonio the next morning for
Speaker 1: mergency surgery. But I looked up and it was my
Speaker 1: head coach from my senior year and his wife and kids,
Speaker 1: and I was taken aback by it, you know, like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And he just said, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to come tell you that I love you,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, or respect you, and one of my
Speaker 1: kids to shake your hand, give a face to a
Speaker 1: name when I talk about you. And I told Jackson,
Speaker 1: I said, man, as a young, dumb teenager, I never
Speaker 1: knew that I was making an impression. I knew a
Speaker 1: negative one because when I'd ended up in his office,
Speaker 1: you know, like I think about my coaches, I think
Speaker 1: about especially guys in the Marine Corps that not even
Speaker 1: even in leadership, but just in my opportune that just
Speaker 1: made such an impact. And it's just so cool to
Speaker 1: be able to have these experiences that we never would
Speaker 1: have gotten had we not done something that scared us,
Speaker 1: you know that we were a little nervous about. And
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to get the boys to understand is, hey,
Speaker 1: do what scares you. Get uncomfortable. Get comfortable being uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: That's where you're going to grow.
Speaker 3: I think you have to be willing to fail. You've
Speaker 3: got to be willing to embrace the potential that you're
Speaker 3: going to fail. You're not going to be successful and
Speaker 3: still be willing to put yourself out there and recognize
Speaker 3: that that failure, if it does come, is going to
Speaker 3: be your opportunity to learn to get better, to become
Speaker 3: a better athlete or whatever is you're applying yourself to,
Speaker 3: and at the end of the day, a better hum it.
Speaker 3: So that fear of failure is a thing that locks
Speaker 3: up a lot of guys. I know, a lot of
Speaker 3: amazing fighters in the training environment, in the practice environment,
Speaker 3: and then it comes time to walk on fight night,
Speaker 3: those four steps up into that cage, and they lock
Speaker 3: up that fear of failing, That vulnerability, the potential exposure
Speaker 3: in there is more than some people can handle. That's
Speaker 3: a mental skill you have to practice and learn to
Speaker 3: deal with and pace that adversity.
Speaker 2: And something also that I've found, you know, even in
Speaker 2: my life, is a huge motivators that desire to please.
Speaker 2: So the fear of failing, but then also the desire
Speaker 2: to please. You mentioned your father, Did you draw from
Speaker 2: that when you took the mat?
Speaker 3: I think we all want to be loved and accepted.
Speaker 3: It's part of how we're wired as humans, for sure,
Speaker 3: and sometimes we're willing to go to great lengths to
Speaker 3: see that happens. We have to all learn that that
Speaker 3: little voice in our heads it should be our friend,
Speaker 3: I call my crazy redmate, say shoot it. No, many
Speaker 3: of their right mind would say to my face. And
Speaker 3: learning that I control that voice, that voice does not
Speaker 3: control me, it was a huge step in my journey.
Speaker 3: And that didn't happen until I was well into my
Speaker 3: thirties before I figured that out. Working with a sports
Speaker 3: psychologist on the national teams and all that stuff, and
Speaker 3: trying to develop some of these mental skills to deal
Speaker 3: with the adversity of competition, of walking out into the
Speaker 3: center of that map by myself was a huge thing
Speaker 3: for me, and I wish I had have figured that
Speaker 3: out a long time if I may have avoided a
Speaker 3: couple of divorces. Who knows. But recognizing that we control
Speaker 3: that voice, that voice does not control us. We can
Speaker 3: step behind that voice anytime we want and let it
Speaker 3: that or on. You don't have to react, you don't
Speaker 3: have to even engage. It's going to say what it's
Speaker 3: going to say. But you can also stop it and
Speaker 3: give it affirmative, positive things to say. And now you
Speaker 3: become a force to be reckonied because your conscious voice,
Speaker 3: that thing that rolls off your tongue so easily, and
Speaker 3: your subconscious voice are saying the same thing. You're going
Speaker 3: to be tougher than hell to deal with when that's
Speaker 3: the case, So recognizing that you have to spend some
Speaker 3: time there to develop. Like any physical skill, we have
Speaker 3: to spend some time working on those mental skills to
Speaker 3: develop that acuity and sensitivity and learning when that voice
Speaker 3: is chirping and going off and saying things that are
Speaker 3: undermining your confidence and your actual abilities that are God given,
Speaker 3: and recognize them when to shut him up and give
Speaker 3: him the positive things to say and focus on those.
Speaker 3: I had to write those things down in the beginning
Speaker 3: on three by five cards and put them in my
Speaker 3: gym bag and put them in my life and put
Speaker 3: them on my spitabre and my cars when I'm driving
Speaker 3: to practice. Those things are going there, and especially when
Speaker 3: the pressure gets turned up, that's when that voice seems
Speaker 3: to really start chattering and going nuts. You know, the
Speaker 3: week of the fight, if I listened to that voice,
Speaker 3: so I'm going to be out in the parking lot
Speaker 3: run at sprints because the what is come in right
Speaker 3: instead of letting my body recover and having faith and
Speaker 3: competence in the plan and all the work that I
Speaker 3: just put in even get to fight week to be
Speaker 3: able to walk into that cage on Saturday night. And
Speaker 3: the thing I didn't recognize was that all those skills
Speaker 3: apply to my everyday life, to all the other things
Speaker 3: I do in my life, to having a conversation that's
Speaker 3: difficult with my wife or my kids or my boss.
Speaker 3: I can visualize those things and see the outcome that
Speaker 3: I want and imagine it seeing it in my head
Speaker 3: going a bunch of different ways. With that one common
Speaker 3: denominator success, I always saw the hand get raised at
Speaker 3: the end of those fights. No matter what happened in
Speaker 3: that visualization, I always was successful. I was alway is victorious.
Speaker 3: And the same thing. I can visualize just about anything,
Speaker 3: and I think you start to have a physical reaction
Speaker 3: to those pictures that you start putting in your head.
Speaker 3: So controlling those pictures and making them positive and affirmative
Speaker 3: things is a hugely powerful thing.
Speaker 2: That's the sole food right there, the mindset. It's so important.
Speaker 2: Was there a period of time in all of this
Speaker 2: that you had self doubt?
Speaker 3: There was two of those, and both of those had
Speaker 3: divorce in front of them. My mother was married and
Speaker 3: divorced twice and married a third time to my stepdad Marco.
Speaker 3: That was the biggest sense of failure that I had
Speaker 3: ever experienced in my life. And I literally considered driving
Speaker 3: my ten speed bike in oncoming traffic and just being done.
Speaker 3: That's the truth of the matter.
Speaker 1: You had to fight socilid audiation at one point.
Speaker 3: It certainly crossed my mind. And anybody that says those
Speaker 3: kind of thoughts never crossed their mind is lying their
Speaker 3: ass off.
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, agree with you.
Speaker 3: We all have things that happen in our lives that
Speaker 3: put us in that dark place in that you know,
Speaker 3: where you start questioning your value and what you're able
Speaker 3: to handle. And I never actually tried to go through
Speaker 3: with any of that. I've been in that dark place
Speaker 3: twice in my life, and I don't even want to
Speaker 3: talk about the other time. It just wasn't. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: It was bad, but I got through it. I got
Speaker 3: through with the help of friends. Some people know me
Speaker 3: well enough to call me and make jokes and lighten
Speaker 3: the mood and put it in a different perspective. It's
Speaker 3: all about framing something right. If we allow the frame
Speaker 3: that certainly are crazy roommate, our subconscious mind wants to
Speaker 3: put around shit, You're probably going to end up in
Speaker 3: some dark places. Yeah. And if you're recognize and you
Speaker 3: shut that off and you give it the positive affirmative
Speaker 3: things to say, and you probably end up in a
Speaker 3: lot less dark places. I've been very, very fortunate. I've
Speaker 3: never been a person that struggled with anxiety or depression,
Speaker 3: and I know there are a lot of folks out
Speaker 3: there that do. I think it important that we address
Speaker 3: and talk about some of this stuff. Doesn't matter how
Speaker 3: painful it is. I think it has to be addressed
Speaker 3: and we have to shine a light on that stuff
Speaker 3: or or the numbers are going to keep going the
Speaker 3: way they're going and they're not good. Yeah. That was
Speaker 3: one of the darkest times, that first divorce and recognizing
Speaker 3: the situation that I'd gotten myself into, how unhappy I
Speaker 3: was and I wasn't being the man I wanted to
Speaker 3: be living a life I wanted to live. Thankfully, got
Speaker 3: through it. Definitely sought out some counseling, and I've been
Speaker 3: to worst three time. Doesn't take a brick in the head, does.
Speaker 2: Looking back now, though, it's kind of hard to have
Speaker 2: gratitude for the hard times that we went through. But
Speaker 2: looking back now, do you feel like those times shaped
Speaker 2: too you are today?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's certainly something I've learned through athletics, through
Speaker 3: wrestling and fighting those setbacks, those losses. Everybody raves about
Speaker 3: six world championships, that means I lost at least five times,
Speaker 3: and the truth is I lost. I don't say it's
Speaker 3: not always about winning. It's about how you deal with
Speaker 3: the adversity of life. The adversity of losing in life
Speaker 3: and in athletics, you're going to get knocked on your ass.
Speaker 3: There's no way around it. Everybody does. And if you
Speaker 3: think you're going to skate pas that you're storally mistaken
Speaker 3: that you better figure out how to embrace it, make
Speaker 3: the most recognize it for what it is. It's a
Speaker 3: chance for you to learn to make the adjustments you
Speaker 3: need to come back and be a better athlete than
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I think, a better human.
Speaker 3: So I embraced that the vault was for wrestling and
Speaker 3: losing some of the biggest matches you can literally be
Speaker 3: in make the Olympic team to be NCAA champion. I
Speaker 3: lost in the finals twice. I think those losses that
Speaker 3: set back to dealing with that adversity and the kind
Speaker 3: of darkness and negativity that comes in after you lose
Speaker 3: something that big, something you work that hard for, definitely
Speaker 3: made me the person that I am to be able
Speaker 3: to deal with the divorces and to deal with all
Speaker 3: the other stuff that life's thrown. I had tools because
Speaker 3: I dealt with those adversities on the mat me in
Speaker 3: the cage. They gave me resilience, They gave me a
Speaker 3: mindset to be able to deal with any of the
Speaker 3: other crap that came my way.
Speaker 2: You've got such an impressive resume and so many accolades
Speaker 2: to your name, but tell us about Extreme Couture Gi Foundation.
Speaker 3: The Extreme Paturity Foundations was something that I founded in
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight and six I got to go
Speaker 3: to Iraq. I spent twelve days on the ground with
Speaker 3: a bunch of our soldiers there, and obviously it was
Speaker 3: a moving experience for me, having taken that oath at
Speaker 3: nineteen and never had to put my ass on the line,
Speaker 3: and now I'm hanging out with a bunch of guys
Speaker 3: in gallops. I'm literally doing exactly what I traded to
Speaker 3: do and never had to do. So it was a,
Speaker 3: I would say, a good experience, but one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty nine degrees in the Iraqi.
Speaker 1: Heat, I don't know what you're talking about, Rennie. Tell
Speaker 1: me more about.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I enjoyed what we were doing and why we
Speaker 3: were doing it over there, but it wasn't fun. It
Speaker 3: was a challenge for sure, and it gave me a
Speaker 3: new perspective on what it would be like had I
Speaker 3: been that guy at nineteen years old walking onto that
Speaker 3: combat zone. So it was an eye opener for sure
Speaker 3: for me. The next year, in O seven, a friend
Speaker 3: of mine, Mike Davis, set up a barbecue at the
Speaker 3: Fisher House and Walter Reid Bethesda, the NBC, Me and
Speaker 3: Ken Shamrock and Don Fry all came out and we
Speaker 3: had to walk the wards and meet a bunch of
Speaker 3: men and women fresh off the battlefield that have been wounded.
Speaker 3: That experience was a game changer hearing the horror stories
Speaker 3: here and you know all, my dad came down here
Speaker 3: for the last six months to be my caregiver. He's
Speaker 3: staying in the Fisher House now. He's lost his job.
Speaker 3: My mom's been here for a year and a half
Speaker 3: while I'm going through these surgeries. We've lost our house,
Speaker 3: the house I grew up in. My wife's car has
Speaker 3: been in the parking garage for eighteen months now and
Speaker 3: it's got a boot on it. We can't afford the
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred dollars it's going to take to get that
Speaker 3: thing out of hawk. I was beside myself. I knew
Speaker 3: at that moment there was something we could do to
Speaker 3: alleviate this transition for these folks that have already sacrificed
Speaker 3: what they've sacrificed. So we filed for five and one
Speaker 3: seat three status. Yeah, starting to get a motion.
Speaker 1: Everybody, it's okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we're off and running. One of our very first
Speaker 3: events with the Extreme cotuur GII Foundation was a motorcycle
Speaker 3: poker roud. Obviously, there's an affinity between veterans and motorcycles
Speaker 3: that started after World War Two and kind of drove
Speaker 3: a lot of the biker clubs or call them whatever
Speaker 3: else you want to call them, but a lot of
Speaker 3: those guys were vets after World War Two that ended
Speaker 3: up in those places and doing those things. So the
Speaker 3: Motorcycle Poke Around immediately became one of our most successful events,
Speaker 3: and we've done a lot of different events over the
Speaker 3: years and a lot of different states. We've got program
Speaker 3: coordinator Patrick Crosby up in Seattle, we're doing some events
Speaker 3: up there, and had friends in Saint Louis, Dave Marikatani,
Speaker 3: friends down in Georgia and Tony Demos, Postelic Up and
Speaker 3: Quad Cities. We just had a ride in Coco Beach,
Speaker 3: Florida with Dave Mancuso. These are all friends of mine.
Speaker 3: They don't get paid. They're doing these things because they
Speaker 3: see what I'm trying to do and they want to
Speaker 3: be part of that. They want to help those guys
Speaker 3: actually served. That's what means a lot to me, is
Speaker 3: that these are actual civilians, Americans that see what's going
Speaker 3: on and want to be part of this and want
Speaker 3: to help and want to raise the awareness and raise
Speaker 3: some of that money. Every year we go out to
Speaker 3: Walter and but there's a Lenda Resnik helps since identify
Speaker 3: families that need the most financial help at that time
Speaker 3: in that transition and we sit down with each one
Speaker 3: of those families. Last year I had to sit down
Speaker 3: with sixteen families and give sixteen ten thousand dollar checks.
Speaker 3: That's good kicking the butt for most people and take
Speaker 3: that financial pressure off them while they're in that situation.
Speaker 3: We've expanded our mission a little bit. We now have
Speaker 3: a big database through all of our events and through
Speaker 3: MVP Emerging Vet the Players, which were the Nevada chapter
Speaker 3: for that. A lot of these vets get buried in
Speaker 3: bills and they're up to their eyeballs in debt. So
Speaker 3: they provide us that paperwork, show us those bills. We'll
Speaker 3: pay those bills off and get them flush so they
Speaker 3: don't have that stress in their life anymore. We recognize
Speaker 3: that not all wounds are on the outside. Some of
Speaker 3: these guys. The peer up here counseling of MVP and
Speaker 3: all that's great, but some of them need a little higher,
Speaker 3: more professional care. So we've connected a lot of our
Speaker 3: veterans that we recognize needs and more serious counseling. They
Speaker 3: let those demons out into the light of the day.
Speaker 3: They don't like that, they hate that actually, and give
Speaker 3: them some professional tools to deal with that TBI or
Speaker 3: that PTSD and the darkness that a lot of us
Speaker 3: carry around because of our training. Because we're not willing
Speaker 3: to let that stuff out, and we're trained not to.
Speaker 3: We're trained to stay on task and accomplish the mission,
Speaker 3: not to ask for help, not to cry for vulnerability
Speaker 3: or any of that stuff. So changing that narrative, changing
Speaker 3: that mindset, making that okay to say, hey man, I'm struggling.
Speaker 3: This ship is really on me and I'm really having
Speaker 3: a hard time. We have to be able to change
Speaker 3: that narrative. Two years ago I spoke to all the
Speaker 3: sergeant majors in the European Theater about just this and
Speaker 3: changing the narrative and if we don't get it from
Speaker 3: the thought, so it trickles down to everybody else. And
Speaker 3: Strapless just retired. He was a sergeant major in the army.
Speaker 3: He stood up and he told his story about having
Speaker 3: his gut in his mouth, and he said, I just
Speaker 3: got back from counseling and trying to sort that out,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to ever be in that place again.
Speaker 3: But to have a sergeant major stand up in front
Speaker 3: of it all the those other starting majors and tell
Speaker 3: that story balls the size of church bells, and good
Speaker 3: for him. That stigma that's attached to asking for help
Speaker 3: has got to change in our services or we're going
Speaker 3: to continue to see the numbers that we're seeing. It's
Speaker 3: that simple, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Truly, from the bottom of our hearts, thank you for
Speaker 2: what you're doing, and thank you for spending the time
Speaker 2: and the energy and the effort and the talent and
Speaker 2: the treasure on this because you know, we live breathe
Speaker 2: it every day in the work that we do with veterans,
Speaker 2: first responders, law enforcement officers, and we're just we're truly
Speaker 2: grateful that your voice is out there doing this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean, look, you're leading from the front
Speaker 1: as usual. And just like Tony who I got to
Speaker 1: spend time with Tony from Jordia. Love that dude. And
Speaker 1: some of those people you mentioned that never served a
Speaker 1: day in their life are prime examples of being able
Speaker 1: to serve now without wearing the uniform. It's possible. You
Speaker 1: don't have to wear uniform to serve your nation.
Speaker 2: I have to know, Like, here's my burning question. It
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with fighting or UFC. I mean
Speaker 2: it kind of does.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a die hard impractical Jokers fan. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was pantying with the stars, dude.
Speaker 1: That that was because we do watch it religiously.
Speaker 2: I literally laugh out loud every time I'm watching it,
Speaker 2: whether I've seen the episode ten times or twenty times.
Speaker 2: I love those guys. That whole concept of that show
Speaker 2: is just hilarious.
Speaker 1: There's been a couple of times where like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you sure you're not the one with the TV I.
Speaker 2: Because I'm laughing so hard.
Speaker 1: But break what was break?
Speaker 3: Legit? They've literally even friends forever, and I think that's
Speaker 3: what comes out in the show is that they just
Speaker 3: have a blast taking the piss out of each other. Frankly,
Speaker 3: that was just a lot of fun, so great. I'm
Speaker 3: probbing today. I mean that that episode was so funny
Speaker 3: to me, and sal was was great and obviously very gracious.
Speaker 3: It was just a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 4: I got a little Jerry wear, thank you, got a
Speaker 4: little piece in they're kind of giving you some hints
Speaker 4: and telling you what's going on and what they want
Speaker 4: you to do, and I kind of took it one
Speaker 4: step further.
Speaker 3: I just pulled my pants off.
Speaker 2: Through a mass.
Speaker 1: I was just about to ask, Okay, when you did that,
Speaker 1: was it a plant thing or was that spur of
Speaker 1: the moment like I'm just gonna off and give them
Speaker 1: to them. That was just me getting into it.
Speaker 3: Our's your Is that more appropriate underwear?
Speaker 2: Exactly like your mama taught you always make sure you
Speaker 2: got clean underwear.
Speaker 3: That's a whole other story.
Speaker 2: Thinking back over your journey, is there a person or
Speaker 2: an individual foundation that's made a huge impact on your life?
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom, Yeah, she raised service by herself, saying
Speaker 3: parent sect example, taught us the work ethic. I was
Speaker 3: the oldest of three to two younger sisters and chortlist
Speaker 3: was there. I had better be done by the time
Speaker 3: mom got home, So there was some delegate and go off.
Speaker 3: It's a gets some stuff done. And yeah, my mom
Speaker 3: absolutely set that example in that bar for me, my entire.
Speaker 2: Life sounds like we had very similar mothers. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's my hero too, very much.
Speaker 1: So my heroin what do you do to recharge any
Speaker 1: tours batteries and just calm the soul.
Speaker 3: Well, it used to be going in the cage and
Speaker 3: get punched in.
Speaker 4: The face, but most of the demons scattered for the
Speaker 4: shadows that's going on.
Speaker 3: But no, the gym action was a huge for me
Speaker 3: because the rest of the world goes away. You can't
Speaker 3: worry about that argument you had with your wife, or
Speaker 3: the bills or anything when you've got somebody standing across
Speaker 3: the mat that wants to kick you or punch you
Speaker 3: in the face. Yeah, ride that motorcycle is the other
Speaker 3: place where it's very relaxing for me. You're in the moment.
Speaker 3: You got to be right there. I've got to be
Speaker 3: wandering off and end up at the gym when you
Speaker 3: were going somewhere else riding a motorcycle. It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: So and then the third place for me is being
Speaker 3: out in the woods, hunting, fishing, mostly hunting. I love
Speaker 3: to fish, you and grew up in the Pacific Northwest
Speaker 3: right on the Puget Sound. We hunted, fished, crabbed. I
Speaker 3: love being in the outdoors, getting barefoot, walking around in
Speaker 3: the mud and the dirt, and getting connected to mother Earth.
Speaker 3: That's a happy place again, for sure. It's what that
Speaker 3: small ranch outside of black Stock does for me. It
Speaker 3: gives me that place to unplug, put the phone in
Speaker 3: the iPad in the Fara day bag and call it
Speaker 3: a week or or sometimes a month. If you can
Speaker 3: get away with.
Speaker 1: It, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's peace that's here.
Speaker 1: With you too.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: That wind therapy goes a long way, and.
Speaker 2: Haman fishing and being in the great outdoor.
Speaker 1: Being out in God's country where your electronics don't even work.
Speaker 1: Being able to unplug is so important.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We get so used to having everything right at
Speaker 3: our fingertips and not halving the struggle for anything, from
Speaker 3: the running water and the toilet to the food that
Speaker 3: we have access to all the time, and you just
Speaker 3: take yourself out in the nature of the world and
Speaker 3: you realize just how insignificant we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Last question, what feeds your soul?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: I think certainly what feeds my soul now is all
Speaker 3: the people I get to touch. You know, everybody talks
Speaker 3: about Oh my god, I can't imagine doing a four
Speaker 3: hour of pearance with all those people all over you
Speaker 3: and say, I got to need so many cool people
Speaker 3: for me. It's all about humility. I start with humility,
Speaker 3: I act with humility, I end with humility. With that mindset.
Speaker 3: With humility, every single person I meet is better at
Speaker 3: something than I am, and whether open heart and an
Speaker 3: open mind, I have an opportunity to learn what that
Speaker 3: is and learn from that person starting with humility, acting
Speaker 3: with humility, and ending with humility. Every single day.
Speaker 2: This interview today, this conversation we've had with you, truly
Speaker 2: has fed our soul today, and we're just so grateful
Speaker 2: for the man that you are, for all the work
Speaker 2: that you've done and that you continue to do, and
Speaker 2: thank you for being part of the good stuff.
Speaker 1: I knew from day one you're real deal. You're a
Speaker 1: true homie. I knew it. I felt it, you know,
Speaker 1: I felt that sole connection and I was like, I
Speaker 1: just thank God for a minute, I was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for putting me around a real dude, you know.
Speaker 1: And I knew the people that set that up wouldn't
Speaker 1: put me in the arena be around someone like that,
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know me and I have a
Speaker 1: hard time keeping what I think in a cage. But
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, bro, you've made me a better human.
Speaker 1: Having the privilege and honor to be able to call
Speaker 1: you brother and friend is something I don't take lightly.
Speaker 1: And I know that I can call upon you and
Speaker 1: I think you know too. But I'll say it anytime anywhere, anything,
Speaker 1: say the word. I would have zero hesitation bleeding for you. Bro.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that, brother. Hopefully it will never come
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope y'all's bleeding days or behind us.
Speaker 1: Randy the Natural Couture, I freaking love you man.
Speaker 3: Thanks brother, that's a two way straight, brother, I really
Speaker 3: appreciate you.
Speaker 2: So many great one liners and nuggets like I just
Speaker 2: really enjoyed that interviewing episode.
Speaker 1: See, he's a hell of a lot more than just
Speaker 1: a pretty face.
Speaker 2: No, he is so inspirational, so inspirational, you know, I
Speaker 2: love what he's said. Life's going to knock you down,
Speaker 2: figure out how to embrace it and make the most
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: This is another guest who's accomplished great things that started
Speaker 1: in their childhood. And I'm awed by him. And it
Speaker 1: really and it doesn't have anything to do with this
Speaker 1: championships and his belts in the Hall of Fame and
Speaker 1: the acting. It has to do with how driven he was,
Speaker 1: even at a young age to accomplish what he wanted
Speaker 1: to accomplish, and being true to himself and being convicted
Speaker 1: in his work ethic. I mean, I'm just.
Speaker 2: I'm inspired by it and staying humble the entire time.
Speaker 2: Humility was such a huge theme, you know, at least
Speaker 2: through his adulthood and everything he's accomplished, just staying humble
Speaker 2: and treating everyone like man. This is someone that I
Speaker 2: could learn from because he knows that that person is
Speaker 2: better at something than he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's coming from a world champion, Hall of famer,
Speaker 1: and if he can do it, we should all be
Speaker 1: able to do it.
Speaker 2: Exactly. A world champion, hall of famer who's exactly like
Speaker 2: the rest of us. He's got the crazy roommate. He
Speaker 2: talks about rolling that voice. I think that's hilarious. We
Speaker 2: all have it. We have these fears, we have these
Speaker 2: insecurities that creep in. But it's about how you get
Speaker 2: in there and you control it and you say, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna let this hinder my success.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, ultimate lessons learn from this amazing interview
Speaker 1: is always wear appropriate underwear and don't go kick and chickens.
Speaker 2: Don't go kick and chicken.
Speaker 1: Don't go kick and chickens.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Thank you so much for listening. If this episode
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