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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff. I'm Jacob Schick and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by my co host and wife, Ashley.

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Speaker 2: Shik Jake is a third generation combat Marine and I'm

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Speaker 2: a gold Star granddaughter, and we work together to serve

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Speaker 2: military veterans, first responders, frontline healthcare workers, and their families

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Speaker 2: with mental and emotional wellness through traditional and non traditional therapy.

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Speaker 2: At One Tribe Foundation, we believe everyone.

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Speaker 1: Has a story to tell, not only about the peaks,

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Speaker 1: but also the valleys they've been through to get them

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Speaker 1: to where they are today.

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Speaker 2: Each week, we invite a guest to tell us their story,

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Speaker 2: to share with us the lessons they've learned that shape

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Speaker 2: who they are and what they're doing to pay it

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Speaker 2: forward and give back.

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Speaker 1: Our mission with this show is to dig deep into

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Speaker 1: our guest's journey so that we can celebrate the hope

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Speaker 1: and inspiration their story has to offer.

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Speaker 2: And we're thrilled you're joining us again.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Good Stuff. We have the gift of

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Speaker 1: getting to hang out with one of the nicest people

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Speaker 1: in the world who also happens to be really good

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Speaker 1: at beating people up. Today's guest is Randy Gettuur, who

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Speaker 1: I've been friends with for years after getting to know

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Speaker 1: him through various fundraising events and motorcycle rides.

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Speaker 2: And you may know him from being a Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame six time world Champion UFC fighter, or as an

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Speaker 2: actor in countless projects, including The Expendables, and he's an

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Speaker 2: Army veteran. He's here to tell us the story of

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Speaker 2: being raised by a single mother, how he discovered his

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Speaker 2: love of wrestling, and his path to becoming a champion.

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Speaker 1: He's nice enough to record this episode over zoom, even

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Speaker 1: though those AirPods kept not only popping out, but shooting

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Speaker 1: out of his califlowers.

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Speaker 2: Here's Randy Gattuur.

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Speaker 3: Just start back. You got it, the benefits of cauliflower year.

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Speaker 1: I didn't notice ever, Keith.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure it's thirty because it's the first thing that

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Speaker 3: some people notice, like they can't stop staring at it. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 3: other people have known me for years. I'm glad. I

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Speaker 3: just got back from Bulgaria. And of course you're here

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Speaker 3: to do the pick up scenes with fifty s And

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Speaker 3: a big part of the scene was about my ear.

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Speaker 3: As usual. Expendable, so all by college buddies lose their

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Speaker 3: body when that stuff comes on it's a blast.

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Speaker 1: So one of the first pictures I showed ash, you

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Speaker 1: sent me a picture where you stabbed some cauliflower and

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Speaker 1: then held it up to your ear. I said, just

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Speaker 1: to give you an idea who Randy is. He's the

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Speaker 1: real deal. There's no nothing manufactured about this guy. You've

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Speaker 1: been there for me and for guys that I know

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Speaker 1: that served that have been either battling cancer or just

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Speaker 1: been dealt cards that they didn't ask to be dull,

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Speaker 1: and you've just always been a stand up dude. And

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Speaker 1: I remember the first time we met years ago at

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Speaker 1: one of your events. It was one of your rides,

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Speaker 1: was pokeron in Vegas for Extreme director from Foundation, and

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Speaker 1: I just appreciate the human you are.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you around a lot of people before you

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Speaker 1: take the stage and rock the microphone. You're so gracious man,

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Speaker 1: and you don't big time people. I think that's why

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Speaker 1: people just gravitate to you, because not only are you

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Speaker 1: this badass fighter, but you love hard man and it's palpable.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the reasons is people

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Speaker 1: feel it, and I know I have. Before we kick

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Speaker 1: this off, I just want to say thank.

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Speaker 3: You for that man. Thank you. I appreciate that very much, Jake. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we put another one out come on.

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Speaker 1: This is awesome.

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Speaker 3: This is this is the challenge trying to get things

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Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Like, if that's the biggest struggle you

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Speaker 1: have this week, that's a win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah ah, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, we are so thrilled and so honored today to

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Speaker 2: have our next guest here on the Good Stuff Randy Couture,

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Speaker 2: the Natural, a six time UFC champion act Jim owner

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Speaker 2: Thank you Randy so much for being on the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate you having me on so pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Jake has told a lot of stories about the two

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Speaker 2: of you in the time that you've spent together. We

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Speaker 1: But well, the good thing is just like they're really

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Speaker 1: other than just being horrible up singing karaoke.

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Speaker 2: I'm just impressed that you actually got him to sing Karyo.

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Speaker 1: Liquid courage was involved drinking. There are some liquid courage.

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Speaker 2: Jake is now five years sober.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Good for you, bro, been actively trying to get the

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Speaker 1: crutches out, and I have one hundred percent accountability and

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Speaker 1: breathing example for our boys and just let them see

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Speaker 1: what ability looks like and that every decision has a consequence.

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Speaker 2: You got to own it all that to say, we

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Speaker 2: do go deep here on the good stuff. The whole

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Speaker 2: point is to be vulnerable and talk about the hard

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Speaker 2: times in life so that we can celebrate the great

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Speaker 2: times in life. Is there a time or a story

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Speaker 2: that you can remember in your path where you went

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I've had a few of those instances in my

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Speaker 3: life for sure. Growing up in a single parent household

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Speaker 3: raising three of us by ourself with literally no support

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Speaker 3: And you can use those circumstances as an excuse to

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Speaker 3: being the person I was, I use them to motivate

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Speaker 3: those circumstances. And those coaches were very important. I mean,

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Speaker 3: wrestle in a single match my entire career. But I

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Speaker 3: seemed to flourish. Some of my best friends were guys

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Speaker 3: I was sweating and bleeding with on those mats, and

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Speaker 3: those coaches were very important people, and I needed to

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Speaker 3: They were the guys that do that too. And junior

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Speaker 3: him to this DAYE an amazing man. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Coach backer boy in high school old football coach never

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Speaker 3: as a state champion in nineteen eighty one, my senior

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Speaker 2: Nobody liked the bragger Randy that.

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Speaker 3: when I was six, what.

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Speaker 3: I was pretty shy. Around my friends, I would open up,

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Speaker 3: on a wrestling matt or on a football field, and

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Speaker 3: then that's where all that came out, was there? I

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Speaker 3: Probably I just didn't get caught. That's the truth of

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Speaker 2: How did you wind up on a mat in the

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Speaker 2: How did that even come about?

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Speaker 3: My best friend at that time, his name was Bobby Stevenson.

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Speaker 3: He had two older brothers, David and John, and they

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Speaker 3: were both on the wrestling team and the junior high

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Speaker 3: Bobby's like, Hey, we're going to go watch my brother's wrestling.

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Speaker 3: watch John at David Wrussell in this tournament. It was

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Speaker 3: I pain a kid with a headlock. I got my

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Speaker 2: What was your first big win that you can remember.

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Speaker 3: I won the state championship in nineteen eighty one, my

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Speaker 3: and said, I'm working twenty thirty hours a week to

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Speaker 3: achieve this goal. And my mom said, look, I believe

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting right now in Las Vegas to Dallas, Texas

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Speaker 3: I want to be a state champion, But how am

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Speaker 3: I actually going to get there? Because from where I'm

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Speaker 2: How did you not to do that?

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Speaker 3: I didn't. Literally I was doing this stuff on a whim,

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Speaker 3: had no idea that I was visualizing. Coach Kseper had

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Speaker 3: where we practiced. He had all the takedowns, all the reversals,

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Speaker 3: No one had ever talked to me about setting goals

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Speaker 1: Coaches, I mean, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: is eleven and he's playing football and Texas at me

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00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: it's a religion. His coach is pretty tough. He's no

437
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: fluff and doesn't put up with any antics, And I

438
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: said Jackson. In my senior year, I was voted to

439
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: captain my team, and I had this kind of love

440
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: hate relationship with my head coach. I was never really

441
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: receptive to authority. I wanted to question.

442
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 2: Everything, unlike you, Jake always fought.

443
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it was way different. I did get caught

444
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: like every time. I wasn't good at not getting caught.

445
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: And I told Jackson, I was like, look, Bud, here's

446
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 1: the deal. You never know what the reason is behind

447
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 1: anything they're doing, but I promise you there is a reason,

448
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: I said jack One of the coolest things I ever

449
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: experienced that had nothing to do with being on a

450
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: football field was it the day during our awards ceremony

451
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps after the guys got home, and

452
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 1: the day that I got my purple heart. Damn near

453
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 1: fainted because I had this major infection inside my body.

454
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 1: I told you about this years ago. I ended up

455
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: having to fly back San Antonio the next morning for

456
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: mergency surgery. But I looked up and it was my

457
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: head coach from my senior year and his wife and kids,

458
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: and I was taken aback by it, you know, like,

459
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And he just said, I

460
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: just wanted to come tell you that I love you,

461
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, or respect you, and one of my

462
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: kids to shake your hand, give a face to a

463
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Speaker 1: name when I talk about you. And I told Jackson,

464
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: I said, man, as a young, dumb teenager, I never

465
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: knew that I was making an impression. I knew a

466
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: negative one because when I'd ended up in his office,

467
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, like I think about my coaches, I think

468
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: about especially guys in the Marine Corps that not even

469
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: even in leadership, but just in my opportune that just

470
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: made such an impact. And it's just so cool to

471
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: be able to have these experiences that we never would

472
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Speaker 1: have gotten had we not done something that scared us,

473
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: you know that we were a little nervous about. And

474
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to get the boys to understand is, hey,

475
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: do what scares you. Get uncomfortable. Get comfortable being uncomfortable.

476
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: That's where you're going to grow.

477
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: I think you have to be willing to fail. You've

478
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 3: got to be willing to embrace the potential that you're

479
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: going to fail. You're not going to be successful and

480
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: still be willing to put yourself out there and recognize

481
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 3: that that failure, if it does come, is going to

482
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: be your opportunity to learn to get better, to become

483
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: a better athlete or whatever is you're applying yourself to,

484
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: and at the end of the day, a better hum it.

485
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: So that fear of failure is a thing that locks

486
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: up a lot of guys. I know, a lot of

487
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: amazing fighters in the training environment, in the practice environment,

488
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: and then it comes time to walk on fight night,

489
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 3: those four steps up into that cage, and they lock

490
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: up that fear of failing, That vulnerability, the potential exposure

491
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: in there is more than some people can handle. That's

492
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: a mental skill you have to practice and learn to

493
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Speaker 3: deal with and pace that adversity.

494
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Speaker 2: And something also that I've found, you know, even in

495
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: my life, is a huge motivators that desire to please.

496
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: So the fear of failing, but then also the desire

497
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: to please. You mentioned your father, Did you draw from

498
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: that when you took the mat?

499
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: I think we all want to be loved and accepted.

500
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: It's part of how we're wired as humans, for sure,

501
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 3: and sometimes we're willing to go to great lengths to

502
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: see that happens. We have to all learn that that

503
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: little voice in our heads it should be our friend,

504
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: I call my crazy redmate, say shoot it. No, many

505
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: of their right mind would say to my face. And

506
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: learning that I control that voice, that voice does not

507
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: control me, it was a huge step in my journey.

508
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: And that didn't happen until I was well into my

509
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: thirties before I figured that out. Working with a sports

510
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: psychologist on the national teams and all that stuff, and

511
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: trying to develop some of these mental skills to deal

512
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 3: with the adversity of competition, of walking out into the

513
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: center of that map by myself was a huge thing

514
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: for me, and I wish I had have figured that

515
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: out a long time if I may have avoided a

516
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 3: couple of divorces. Who knows. But recognizing that we control

517
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: that voice, that voice does not control us. We can

518
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: step behind that voice anytime we want and let it

519
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: that or on. You don't have to react, you don't

520
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 3: have to even engage. It's going to say what it's

521
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: going to say. But you can also stop it and

522
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: give it affirmative, positive things to say. And now you

523
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 3: become a force to be reckonied because your conscious voice,

524
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: that thing that rolls off your tongue so easily, and

525
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: your subconscious voice are saying the same thing. You're going

526
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: to be tougher than hell to deal with when that's

527
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: the case, So recognizing that you have to spend some

528
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: time there to develop. Like any physical skill, we have

529
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: to spend some time working on those mental skills to

530
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 3: develop that acuity and sensitivity and learning when that voice

531
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: is chirping and going off and saying things that are

532
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: undermining your confidence and your actual abilities that are God given,

533
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: and recognize them when to shut him up and give

534
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: him the positive things to say and focus on those.

535
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: I had to write those things down in the beginning

536
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: on three by five cards and put them in my

537
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 3: gym bag and put them in my life and put

538
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: them on my spitabre and my cars when I'm driving

539
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 3: to practice. Those things are going there, and especially when

540
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: the pressure gets turned up, that's when that voice seems

541
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: to really start chattering and going nuts. You know, the

542
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: week of the fight, if I listened to that voice,

543
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 3: so I'm going to be out in the parking lot

544
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: run at sprints because the what is come in right

545
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: instead of letting my body recover and having faith and

546
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: competence in the plan and all the work that I

547
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: just put in even get to fight week to be

548
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: able to walk into that cage on Saturday night. And

549
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: the thing I didn't recognize was that all those skills

550
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: apply to my everyday life, to all the other things

551
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 3: I do in my life, to having a conversation that's

552
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: difficult with my wife or my kids or my boss.

553
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: I can visualize those things and see the outcome that

554
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: I want and imagine it seeing it in my head

555
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: going a bunch of different ways. With that one common

556
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: denominator success, I always saw the hand get raised at

557
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: the end of those fights. No matter what happened in

558
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: that visualization, I always was successful. I was alway is victorious.

559
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: And the same thing. I can visualize just about anything,

560
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: and I think you start to have a physical reaction

561
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 3: to those pictures that you start putting in your head.

562
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: So controlling those pictures and making them positive and affirmative

563
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: things is a hugely powerful thing.

564
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: That's the sole food right there, the mindset. It's so important.

565
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 2: Was there a period of time in all of this

566
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: that you had self doubt?

567
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: There was two of those, and both of those had

568
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: divorce in front of them. My mother was married and

569
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: divorced twice and married a third time to my stepdad Marco.

570
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 3: That was the biggest sense of failure that I had

571
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: ever experienced in my life. And I literally considered driving

572
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: my ten speed bike in oncoming traffic and just being done.

573
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: That's the truth of the matter.

574
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: You had to fight socilid audiation at one point.

575
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: It certainly crossed my mind. And anybody that says those

576
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: kind of thoughts never crossed their mind is lying their

577
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: ass off.

578
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, agree with you.

579
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 3: We all have things that happen in our lives that

580
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: put us in that dark place in that you know,

581
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: where you start questioning your value and what you're able

582
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: to handle. And I never actually tried to go through

583
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: with any of that. I've been in that dark place

584
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: twice in my life, and I don't even want to

585
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: talk about the other time. It just wasn't. Yeah it was.

586
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: It was bad, but I got through it. I got

587
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: through with the help of friends. Some people know me

588
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: well enough to call me and make jokes and lighten

589
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: the mood and put it in a different perspective. It's

590
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: all about framing something right. If we allow the frame

591
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: that certainly are crazy roommate, our subconscious mind wants to

592
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: put around shit, You're probably going to end up in

593
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: some dark places. Yeah. And if you're recognize and you

594
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: shut that off and you give it the positive affirmative

595
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: things to say, and you probably end up in a

596
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: lot less dark places. I've been very, very fortunate. I've

597
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: never been a person that struggled with anxiety or depression,

598
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: and I know there are a lot of folks out

599
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: there that do. I think it important that we address

600
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: and talk about some of this stuff. Doesn't matter how

601
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: painful it is. I think it has to be addressed

602
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: and we have to shine a light on that stuff

603
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: or or the numbers are going to keep going the

604
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: way they're going and they're not good. Yeah. That was

605
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: one of the darkest times, that first divorce and recognizing

606
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: the situation that I'd gotten myself into, how unhappy I

607
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: was and I wasn't being the man I wanted to

608
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: be living a life I wanted to live. Thankfully, got

609
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: through it. Definitely sought out some counseling, and I've been

610
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: to worst three time. Doesn't take a brick in the head, does.

611
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: Looking back now, though, it's kind of hard to have

612
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 2: gratitude for the hard times that we went through. But

613
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: looking back now, do you feel like those times shaped

614
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: too you are today?

615
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's certainly something I've learned through athletics, through

616
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: wrestling and fighting those setbacks, those losses. Everybody raves about

617
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: six world championships, that means I lost at least five times,

618
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: and the truth is I lost. I don't say it's

619
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: not always about winning. It's about how you deal with

620
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: the adversity of life. The adversity of losing in life

621
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: and in athletics, you're going to get knocked on your ass.

622
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: There's no way around it. Everybody does. And if you

623
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: think you're going to skate pas that you're storally mistaken

624
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: that you better figure out how to embrace it, make

625
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: the most recognize it for what it is. It's a

626
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: chance for you to learn to make the adjustments you

627
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: need to come back and be a better athlete than

628
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I think, a better human.

629
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: So I embraced that the vault was for wrestling and

630
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: losing some of the biggest matches you can literally be

631
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: in make the Olympic team to be NCAA champion. I

632
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: lost in the finals twice. I think those losses that

633
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: set back to dealing with that adversity and the kind

634
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: of darkness and negativity that comes in after you lose

635
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: something that big, something you work that hard for, definitely

636
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: made me the person that I am to be able

637
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: to deal with the divorces and to deal with all

638
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: the other stuff that life's thrown. I had tools because

639
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: I dealt with those adversities on the mat me in

640
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: the cage. They gave me resilience, They gave me a

641
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: mindset to be able to deal with any of the

642
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: other crap that came my way.

643
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: You've got such an impressive resume and so many accolades

644
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: to your name, but tell us about Extreme Couture Gi Foundation.

645
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: The Extreme Paturity Foundations was something that I founded in

646
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight and six I got to go

647
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: to Iraq. I spent twelve days on the ground with

648
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: a bunch of our soldiers there, and obviously it was

649
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: a moving experience for me, having taken that oath at

650
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: nineteen and never had to put my ass on the line,

651
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: and now I'm hanging out with a bunch of guys

652
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: in gallops. I'm literally doing exactly what I traded to

653
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: do and never had to do. So it was a,

654
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: I would say, a good experience, but one hundred and

655
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: twenty nine degrees in the Iraqi.

656
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: Heat, I don't know what you're talking about, Rennie. Tell

657
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: me more about.

658
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. I enjoyed what we were doing and why we

659
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: were doing it over there, but it wasn't fun. It

660
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: was a challenge for sure, and it gave me a

661
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: new perspective on what it would be like had I

662
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: been that guy at nineteen years old walking onto that

663
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: combat zone. So it was an eye opener for sure

664
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: for me. The next year, in O seven, a friend

665
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: of mine, Mike Davis, set up a barbecue at the

666
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: Fisher House and Walter Reid Bethesda, the NBC, Me and

667
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: Ken Shamrock and Don Fry all came out and we

668
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: had to walk the wards and meet a bunch of

669
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: men and women fresh off the battlefield that have been wounded.

670
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: That experience was a game changer hearing the horror stories

671
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: here and you know all, my dad came down here

672
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 3: for the last six months to be my caregiver. He's

673
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: staying in the Fisher House now. He's lost his job.

674
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: My mom's been here for a year and a half

675
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: while I'm going through these surgeries. We've lost our house,

676
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: the house I grew up in. My wife's car has

677
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: been in the parking garage for eighteen months now and

678
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: it's got a boot on it. We can't afford the

679
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred dollars it's going to take to get that

680
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: thing out of hawk. I was beside myself. I knew

681
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: at that moment there was something we could do to

682
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: alleviate this transition for these folks that have already sacrificed

683
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: what they've sacrificed. So we filed for five and one

684
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: seat three status. Yeah, starting to get a motion.

685
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: Everybody, it's okay, Yeah.

686
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: So we're off and running. One of our very first

687
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: events with the Extreme cotuur GII Foundation was a motorcycle

688
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: poker roud. Obviously, there's an affinity between veterans and motorcycles

689
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: that started after World War Two and kind of drove

690
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: a lot of the biker clubs or call them whatever

691
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: else you want to call them, but a lot of

692
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: those guys were vets after World War Two that ended

693
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: up in those places and doing those things. So the

694
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: Motorcycle Poke Around immediately became one of our most successful events,

695
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: and we've done a lot of different events over the

696
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: years and a lot of different states. We've got program

697
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: coordinator Patrick Crosby up in Seattle, we're doing some events

698
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: up there, and had friends in Saint Louis, Dave Marikatani,

699
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: friends down in Georgia and Tony Demos, Postelic Up and

700
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: Quad Cities. We just had a ride in Coco Beach,

701
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: Florida with Dave Mancuso. These are all friends of mine.

702
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: They don't get paid. They're doing these things because they

703
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: see what I'm trying to do and they want to

704
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: be part of that. They want to help those guys

705
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: actually served. That's what means a lot to me, is

706
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: that these are actual civilians, Americans that see what's going

707
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: on and want to be part of this and want

708
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: to help and want to raise the awareness and raise

709
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: some of that money. Every year we go out to

710
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: Walter and but there's a Lenda Resnik helps since identify

711
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: families that need the most financial help at that time

712
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: in that transition and we sit down with each one

713
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: of those families. Last year I had to sit down

714
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: with sixteen families and give sixteen ten thousand dollar checks.

715
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: That's good kicking the butt for most people and take

716
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: that financial pressure off them while they're in that situation.

717
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 3: We've expanded our mission a little bit. We now have

718
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: a big database through all of our events and through

719
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: MVP Emerging Vet the Players, which were the Nevada chapter

720
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: for that. A lot of these vets get buried in

721
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 3: bills and they're up to their eyeballs in debt. So

722
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: they provide us that paperwork, show us those bills. We'll

723
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: pay those bills off and get them flush so they

724
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 3: don't have that stress in their life anymore. We recognize

725
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: that not all wounds are on the outside. Some of

726
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: these guys. The peer up here counseling of MVP and

727
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: all that's great, but some of them need a little higher,

728
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: more professional care. So we've connected a lot of our

729
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: veterans that we recognize needs and more serious counseling. They

730
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: let those demons out into the light of the day.

731
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: They don't like that, they hate that actually, and give

732
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: them some professional tools to deal with that TBI or

733
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: that PTSD and the darkness that a lot of us

734
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: carry around because of our training. Because we're not willing

735
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: to let that stuff out, and we're trained not to.

736
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: We're trained to stay on task and accomplish the mission,

737
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: not to ask for help, not to cry for vulnerability

738
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: or any of that stuff. So changing that narrative, changing

739
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: that mindset, making that okay to say, hey man, I'm struggling.

740
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: This ship is really on me and I'm really having

741
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: a hard time. We have to be able to change

742
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: that narrative. Two years ago I spoke to all the

743
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 3: sergeant majors in the European Theater about just this and

744
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: changing the narrative and if we don't get it from

745
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 3: the thought, so it trickles down to everybody else. And

746
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: Strapless just retired. He was a sergeant major in the army.

747
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: He stood up and he told his story about having

748
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: his gut in his mouth, and he said, I just

749
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: got back from counseling and trying to sort that out,

750
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: and I don't want to ever be in that place again.

751
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: But to have a sergeant major stand up in front

752
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: of it all the those other starting majors and tell

753
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: that story balls the size of church bells, and good

754
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: for him. That stigma that's attached to asking for help

755
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: has got to change in our services or we're going

756
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: to continue to see the numbers that we're seeing. It's

757
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: that simple, no doubt about it.

758
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: Truly, from the bottom of our hearts, thank you for

759
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 2: what you're doing, and thank you for spending the time

760
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: and the energy and the effort and the talent and

761
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: the treasure on this because you know, we live breathe

762
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: it every day in the work that we do with veterans,

763
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: first responders, law enforcement officers, and we're just we're truly

764
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: grateful that your voice is out there doing this.

765
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean, look, you're leading from the front

766
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: as usual. And just like Tony who I got to

767
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: spend time with Tony from Jordia. Love that dude. And

768
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: some of those people you mentioned that never served a

769
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: day in their life are prime examples of being able

770
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: to serve now without wearing the uniform. It's possible. You

771
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: don't have to wear uniform to serve your nation.

772
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: I have to know, Like, here's my burning question. It

773
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with fighting or UFC. I mean

774
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: it kind of does.

775
00:36:59,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: Well.

776
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a die hard impractical Jokers fan. Yeah, that

777
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: was pantying with the stars, dude.

778
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: That that was because we do watch it religiously.

779
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: I literally laugh out loud every time I'm watching it,

780
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: whether I've seen the episode ten times or twenty times.

781
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 2: I love those guys. That whole concept of that show

782
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: is just hilarious.

783
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: There's been a couple of times where like, I'm like,

784
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: are you sure you're not the one with the TV I.

785
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 2: Because I'm laughing so hard.

786
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: But break what was break?

787
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: Legit? They've literally even friends forever, and I think that's

788
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: what comes out in the show is that they just

789
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: have a blast taking the piss out of each other. Frankly,

790
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: that was just a lot of fun, so great. I'm

791
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: probbing today. I mean that that episode was so funny

792
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: to me, and sal was was great and obviously very gracious.

793
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 3: It was just a lot of fun.

794
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: I got it.

795
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: I got a little Jerry wear, thank you, got a

796
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 4: little piece in they're kind of giving you some hints

797
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: and telling you what's going on and what they want

798
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 4: you to do, and I kind of took it one

799
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 4: step further.

800
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: I just pulled my pants off.

801
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: Through a mass.

802
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 1: I was just about to ask, Okay, when you did that,

803
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: was it a plant thing or was that spur of

804
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: the moment like I'm just gonna off and give them

805
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: to them. That was just me getting into it.

806
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: Our's your Is that more appropriate underwear?

807
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: Exactly like your mama taught you always make sure you

808
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: got clean underwear.

809
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 3: That's a whole other story.

810
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: Thinking back over your journey, is there a person or

811
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: an individual foundation that's made a huge impact on your life?

812
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom, Yeah, she raised service by herself, saying

813
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 3: parent sect example, taught us the work ethic. I was

814
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: the oldest of three to two younger sisters and chortlist

815
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: was there. I had better be done by the time

816
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: mom got home, So there was some delegate and go off.

817
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: It's a gets some stuff done. And yeah, my mom

818
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: absolutely set that example in that bar for me, my entire.

819
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Life sounds like we had very similar mothers. Yes, yeah,

820
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: she's my hero too, very much.

821
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: So my heroin what do you do to recharge any

822
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: tours batteries and just calm the soul.

823
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: Well, it used to be going in the cage and

824
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: get punched in.

825
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: The face, but most of the demons scattered for the

826
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 4: shadows that's going on.

827
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: But no, the gym action was a huge for me

828
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: because the rest of the world goes away. You can't

829
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: worry about that argument you had with your wife, or

830
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: the bills or anything when you've got somebody standing across

831
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: the mat that wants to kick you or punch you

832
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: in the face. Yeah, ride that motorcycle is the other

833
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: place where it's very relaxing for me. You're in the moment.

834
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: You got to be right there. I've got to be

835
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: wandering off and end up at the gym when you

836
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: were going somewhere else riding a motorcycle. It just doesn't happen.

837
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: So and then the third place for me is being

838
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: out in the woods, hunting, fishing, mostly hunting. I love

839
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: to fish, you and grew up in the Pacific Northwest

840
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: right on the Puget Sound. We hunted, fished, crabbed. I

841
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: love being in the outdoors, getting barefoot, walking around in

842
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: the mud and the dirt, and getting connected to mother Earth.

843
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: That's a happy place again, for sure. It's what that

844
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: small ranch outside of black Stock does for me. It

845
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: gives me that place to unplug, put the phone in

846
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: the iPad in the Fara day bag and call it

847
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: a week or or sometimes a month. If you can

848
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: get away with.

849
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: It, that's awesome.

850
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's peace that's here.

851
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: With you too.

852
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: Man.

853
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: That wind therapy goes a long way, and.

854
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 2: Haman fishing and being in the great outdoor.

855
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: Being out in God's country where your electronics don't even work.

856
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: Being able to unplug is so important.

857
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. We get so used to having everything right at

858
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: our fingertips and not halving the struggle for anything, from

859
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: the running water and the toilet to the food that

860
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: we have access to all the time, and you just

861
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: take yourself out in the nature of the world and

862
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: you realize just how insignificant we are.

863
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Last question, what feeds your soul?

864
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

865
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: I think certainly what feeds my soul now is all

866
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 3: the people I get to touch. You know, everybody talks

867
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: about Oh my god, I can't imagine doing a four

868
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: hour of pearance with all those people all over you

869
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 3: and say, I got to need so many cool people

870
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: for me. It's all about humility. I start with humility,

871
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: I act with humility, I end with humility. With that mindset.

872
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Speaker 3: With humility, every single person I meet is better at

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Speaker 3: something than I am, and whether open heart and an

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Speaker 3: open mind, I have an opportunity to learn what that

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Speaker 3: is and learn from that person starting with humility, acting

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Speaker 3: with humility, and ending with humility. Every single day.

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Speaker 2: This interview today, this conversation we've had with you, truly

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Speaker 2: has fed our soul today, and we're just so grateful

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Speaker 2: for the man that you are, for all the work

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Speaker 2: that you've done and that you continue to do, and

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Speaker 2: thank you for being part of the good stuff.

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Speaker 1: I knew from day one you're real deal. You're a

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Speaker 1: true homie. I knew it. I felt it, you know,

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Speaker 1: I felt that sole connection and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: just thank God for a minute, I was like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for putting me around a real dude, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I knew the people that set that up wouldn't

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Speaker 1: put me in the arena be around someone like that,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, you know me and I have a

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Speaker 1: hard time keeping what I think in a cage. But

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, bro, you've made me a better human.

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Speaker 1: Having the privilege and honor to be able to call

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Speaker 1: you brother and friend is something I don't take lightly.

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Speaker 1: And I know that I can call upon you and

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Speaker 1: I think you know too. But I'll say it anytime anywhere, anything,

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Speaker 1: say the word. I would have zero hesitation bleeding for you. Bro.

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that, brother. Hopefully it will never come

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Speaker 3: to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope y'all's bleeding days or behind us.

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Speaker 1: Randy the Natural Couture, I freaking love you man.

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Speaker 3: Thanks brother, that's a two way straight, brother, I really

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Speaker 3: appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: So many great one liners and nuggets like I just

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Speaker 2: really enjoyed that interviewing episode.

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Speaker 1: See, he's a hell of a lot more than just

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Speaker 1: a pretty face.

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Speaker 2: No, he is so inspirational, so inspirational, you know, I

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Speaker 2: love what he's said. Life's going to knock you down,

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Speaker 2: figure out how to embrace it and make the most

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: This is another guest who's accomplished great things that started

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Speaker 1: in their childhood. And I'm awed by him. And it

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Speaker 1: really and it doesn't have anything to do with this

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Speaker 1: championships and his belts in the Hall of Fame and

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Speaker 1: the acting. It has to do with how driven he was,

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Speaker 1: even at a young age to accomplish what he wanted

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Speaker 1: to accomplish, and being true to himself and being convicted

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Speaker 1: in his work ethic. I mean, I'm just.

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Speaker 2: I'm inspired by it and staying humble the entire time.

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Speaker 2: Humility was such a huge theme, you know, at least

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Speaker 2: through his adulthood and everything he's accomplished, just staying humble

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Speaker 2: and treating everyone like man. This is someone that I

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Speaker 2: could learn from because he knows that that person is

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Speaker 2: better at something than he is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's coming from a world champion, Hall of famer,

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Speaker 1: and if he can do it, we should all be

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Speaker 1: able to do it.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. A world champion, hall of famer who's exactly like

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Speaker 2: the rest of us. He's got the crazy roommate. He

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Speaker 2: talks about rolling that voice. I think that's hilarious. We

931
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Speaker 2: all have it. We have these fears, we have these

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Speaker 2: insecurities that creep in. But it's about how you get

933
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Speaker 2: in there and you control it and you say, I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna let this hinder my success.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, ultimate lessons learn from this amazing interview

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Speaker 1: is always wear appropriate underwear and don't go kick and chickens.

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Speaker 2: Don't go kick and chicken.

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Speaker 1: Don't go kick and chickens.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Thank you so much for listening. If this episode

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Speaker 2: touched you today, please share it and be part of

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Speaker 2: making someone else's day better.

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Speaker 1: Put on your bad ass capes and be great today,

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Speaker 1: and remember you can't do epic stuff. Without epic people.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the good Stuff.

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Speaker 2: The Good Stuff is executive produced by Ashley Shick, Jacob Chick,

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Speaker 2: Leah Pictures and q Code Media, Hosted by Ashley Shick

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Speaker 2: and Jacob Shick, Produced by Nick Cassolini and Ryan Kant's

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Speaker 2: house post production supervisor Will Tindy. Music editing by Will

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Speaker 2: Haywood Smith, edited by Mike Robinson.