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Speaker 2: What's up everybody, and Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 2: Action Network Podcast, presented by Bett MGM. The golf edition,

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Speaker 2: of course. I'm Jason Soble. He is from the twenty

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Speaker 2: first group. My friend Justin already making his triumphant return

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Speaker 2: after a couple of weeks of paternity leave. Congratulations, my friend,

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Speaker 2: it is great to have you back.

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Speaker 3: Thanks man, I appreciate it. It's been a wonderful, sleepless, exciting,

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Speaker 3: stressful time, as you know as a father of two.

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't trade it for the world. Man. The

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Speaker 3: little guy's amazing. So Jack's doing great, Mom's doing great.

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Speaker 3: Family's very happy. So thank you for the kind words.

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Speaker 2: So happy for you. I know a lot of the

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Speaker 2: listeners out there are happy for you as well, and

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Speaker 2: happy to have you back. Because we're gonna go through

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Speaker 2: this week's Memorial tournament, talk about Colonial last week, the

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Speaker 2: Charles Schwab Challenge. We're gonna get into our five questions

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Speaker 2: pretty soon, make our dfs lineup. So so much to

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Speaker 2: get to this week First, I want to dive back

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Speaker 2: into what happened this past weekend, of course, really turned

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Speaker 2: into a two man event. I'm not sure how many

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Speaker 2: times the broadcast team said the words match play, which

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Speaker 2: it really wasn't, but turned into Georgie and Jason's.

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Speaker 3: Actually match play.

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Speaker 2: It's not match play. It's really not match play. And

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Speaker 2: so Jason Cograg of course comes out on top. Got

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Speaker 2: a couple of Jason Cograd questions. First, let's start with Speth,

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Speaker 2: who didn't have anything going on Sunday. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: admitted afterwards just his swing was not there from the

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Speaker 2: the middle of this, and look I am you know,

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Speaker 2: young Jack Ray has done a tremendous job so far

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Speaker 2: in his what two and a half weeks on Earth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two and a half weeks in counting.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I don't want to heat too much heavy

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Speaker 2: stuff on Jack so far. But on the front nine,

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Speaker 2: as they were playing, you send me a picture of

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Speaker 2: young Jack wearing an under armor golf shirt.

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Speaker 3: Yes I did.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we can get hashtag Jack's jinx

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Speaker 3: All right, listen, first of all, you tell the full

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Speaker 3: depth of the story because Uncle Jason did something awesome

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Speaker 3: when he went to the Masters this year. He got

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Speaker 3: a little miniature Masters putter. It says had twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: perfect little gift for father, more for father than son, really,

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Speaker 3: but really cool gift. And I want to I got

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Speaker 3: gift and send it to the guy that sent it

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Speaker 3: to you. So it all made sense to put Jack

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Speaker 3: the little under armoured onesie. And you know, he was

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Speaker 3: ready to watch Jordan' speach pick up the w in

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Speaker 3: the day that Jack was born, Jordan's shot sixty three.

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Speaker 3: it wasn't to be. Hopefully we can't. He's two and

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Speaker 3: a half weeks old. We can't hold him responsible for

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Speaker 2: Could be he could be the youngest golf expert ever

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Speaker 2: to have, you know, like Angry Betters tweeting at him

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Speaker 3: I really don't want that to be his first you

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Speaker 3: some angry Henry Golfer two seven eight five ninety three

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, I was not bringing this up

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Speaker 2: No A bet wisely, bet intelligently. Do not I know

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Speaker 2: Jason Cochrack. I obviously very impressive what he's done so far.

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Speaker 2: I've been waiting years for Jason Cochrack to break through

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Speaker 2: he's gotten much better recently. He's turned what was an average,

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned his improvement in a short game. It's

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Speaker 3: not just improvement, it's like an astronomical change in how

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Speaker 3: across the board from a ball striking perspective, Jason Kokrak

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Speaker 3: I don't know how good of a player he'd be.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned in your minds, you Gary Woodland. I looked

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Speaker 3: Kokrack's done. He had no wins in his career before

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Speaker 3: The last three to do it Jason Duffner won a

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Speaker 3: But it's not like we haven't seen this over the

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Speaker 2: Okay, So a few things I want to respond to here.

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Speaker 2: The first is that I agree with you about Phil

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Speaker 2: and I don't know that's necessarily undeserved. But that leads

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Speaker 2: I do. I believe the European team, with its captain's picks,

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Speaker 2: And my contention is that the captain's picks that are

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Speaker 2: Number one Mirfield Village this week of course, Jack tournament,

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Speaker 3: gonna happen again. I can go ahead, and I'm gonna

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00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 3: go ahead and say that now that that will not

432
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Speaker 3: happen again.

433
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 2: I assume that no one else has done that. I mean,

434
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 2: I was just.

435
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 3: Now because Tiger would have been the only one to

436
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 3: get close. But of course he had the winless the

437
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 3: win streak in every season end in twenty ten, and

438
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 3: then I think he had earlier in his career. I

439
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 3: think I want to say he had a season where

440
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: only had one win, kind of when he was in

441
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 3: the middle of a swing change. So but yeah, no

442
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 3: one else, no one.

443
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: Not Steed. Steed didn't do anything like that.

444
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that's seventeen is actually

445
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 3: the record for most most consecutive seasons with one win.

446
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 2: Oh wow, and he did it with two.

447
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 3: So I was.

448
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 2: Gonna throw another one on top, you know.

449
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 4: Give me thirty seconds I can confirm that. But yes,

450
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 4: you know who's first, Jack, you know who's second. Also, Jack,

451
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 4: We're tied seventeen straight years. Let's get to question number two. Uh, okay,

452
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 4: this is a multiple choice question. Who's your favorite memorial

453
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 4: tournament winner ever? And I will give you two choices,

454
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 4: William McGirt or David Lingmerth.

455
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 3: Oh, I gotta go with William mgirt because I was

456
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 3: there that year with the Golf Channel. But this tournament

457
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 3: has a they'll give you some random one offs, won't

458
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: they like? Really golf course the point of revered you know, yeah, well,

459
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 3: you know Lingmerth at his peak, really good iron player

460
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 3: when he got hot, you know when he Yes, I

461
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: just said the sentence ling Mirth at his peak. I

462
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 3: realized that I'm officially back. Yeah, that was the dorkiest

463
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Speaker 3: golf sentence. I think I could possibly say ling Mirth

464
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: at his peak. But no, he had a good run

465
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 3: on some die courses. He's he was a pretty But yeah,

466
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 3: and I'll go with I'll go with Dirt mcgert because, uh,

467
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 3: because I was there. That's the only read of the

468
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Speaker 3: reason I have. I can't confirm, By the way, the

469
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 3: record for most consecutive seasons with a win is seventeen. Okay,

470
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Speaker 3: Jack Nicholas and Arnold Palm both did it, but as

471
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 3: you said, Jack Nicholas won twice in each of those seasons.

472
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: At least I was at both of those as well.

473
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: Wilm Dirt's one of my favorites. Great dude. I will say,

474
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: quick little story here, quick little interlude. One of my

475
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: favorite moments ever covering golf was after Lingwirth won, his

476
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: wife had his parents from Sweden on FaceTime during the

477
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: press conference, and so like there's a press conference going

478
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: on and it wasn't muted or anything, so like she's

479
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 2: got holding it up and like David would say something like, oh,

480
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: We're so proud of you. Like it was great. It

481
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 2: was really funny. I mean, you know you could kind

482
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: of hear them coming through the phone. And then afterwards

483
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: she brought the phone up and gave it to Jack

484
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: and said, hey, Jack, would you mind saying hi to

485
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: David's parents back in Sweden. They just they just watched everything.

486
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 2: They're so excited for him. And Jack picks up the

487
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: phone and like any grandfather back in twenty fifteen, I

488
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: believe this was who has never really used FaceTime before,

489
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: holds the phone about three inches from his nose and

490
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: yells into the phone, Hi, this is Jack Nicholas, which

491
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 2: I just thought was tremendous. I mean it was just

492
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: he is every grandfather ever.

493
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: You don't have to shout so that they hear you

494
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: in Sweden, like your voice. The phone is right there.

495
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: That's tremendous.

496
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: Question number three, you've been to Mirefield Village. I've been

497
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 2: to Mirefield Village. Let's get serious here, favorite milkshake flavor.

498
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: I'm really happy you asked this. This is a really

499
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 3: important question. And the thing is, if you get to

500
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 3: the clubhouse and you ask them you want part chocolate,

501
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: part peanut butter, you got a little Reese's cup thing going.

502
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: I mean that's money, like I like, I like. The

503
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: strawberries were really good too, But you go half and

504
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: half like a chocolate peanut butter. That's a sweet spot.

505
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: That's That's where I'm gonna go.

506
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: With the buckeye, which is it's sort of that.

507
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: That might've been what I got. Yeah, maybe I thought

508
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: I was being unique or interesting.

509
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: It's basically just yeah, chocolate peanut butter will give you

510
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: a buckeye what's fascinating, By the way, for those of

511
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: us great unwashed to you know, media public, whoever you are.

512
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: During tournament week, you can glean a lot about specific

513
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: players just by standing in the milkshake line. For instance,

514
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: I had one year where player just I'm standing in line,

515
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 2: player just went to the front of the line, goes, yeah,

516
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: I need six of those and you know, just give

517
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 2: me a box and on the and just didn't acknowledge

518
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: that he skipped seven other people on the line, just

519
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 2: went straight to the front of the line. I had

520
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: another year where a player said, Hey, I'm gonna hurry.

521
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 2: I I'm so sorry, guys, I gotta like I will,

522
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: like left a big tip for the guy and you know,

523
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: like apologize to everybody, like I'm so sorry. It's it's

524
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 2: in the player locker. I mean it's really it is

525
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: more for them than for us. And so yeah, of

526
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: course I another player who just stood right behind us

527
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: and hung out with us. And I mean a player

528
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: that I knew fairly well, just he was waiting to

529
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: get a milkshake and he was not gonna, you know,

530
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: go in front of whoever it was. He's like, I

531
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: don't know who's in front of me, But I'm not

532
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: like cut them in line just because I have a

533
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: tea time tomorrow. And so you can glean a lot

534
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: about different players and their personalities just based on being

535
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: in that milkshake line during Memorial weeks. So question four there,

536
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: I always I get to this time of year justin

537
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: I have a hard time keeping up with US Open qualifying,

538
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: just because there's so much else going on in the world. Yeah, golf,

539
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: and it's just it's like, man, I wish I could,

540
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: you know, I wish I was at some point covering

541
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: the US Open as Bose, just covering golf and like

542
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: that was sort of the sole focus because I'd love

543
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: to dive into it more. What I have seen is

544
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: there are a whole lot of withdrawals so far. Does

545
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: the US Open need a tweak for their system for qualifying?

546
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 3: Man, that's a tough one to get thrown out right

547
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 3: with no prep. I've always thought that it's kind of

548
00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 3: I've kind of loved, but maybe not always, Like it's

549
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: a qualifier that comes right after Memorial in Columbus the

550
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: next day, right like there's a certain hectic madness to

551
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: it where you know there's all the players who played

552
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: at the Memorial the previous Sunday. The next day they're

553
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 3: playing in a qualifier in the same city, is trying

554
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 3: to get into the US Open. And maybe that always

555
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: makes me kind of feel like, all right, these are

556
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 3: some of the best players in the world. Are there

557
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: guys with a bunch of wins, and you got guys

558
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 3: like what Ricky Fowler Jason Day are going to be

559
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: playing the qualifier. It kind of makes them revert back to,

560
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: you know, junior golf days or college golf, where there's

561
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: this kind of randomness of their schedule thrown at them

562
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: and they've got to play in this big event right

563
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: after playing in a PGA Tour event. I've kind of

564
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: liked that part about it, but yeah, that's tough to

565
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: say if they need to make a change with it.

566
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: You know, I think that one of the things I've

567
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: always loved about, you know, growing up and well into

568
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: my media career and maybe even now, the US Open

569
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: was always my favorite golf tournament because it was the

570
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: most democratic of them all. You can say that the

571
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: Open Championship's gone to that point now too with their

572
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 3: global quying series, but it's one of the things I've

573
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: always loved most about the US Open is that, you know,

574
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 3: anybody with ex handicap can climb that ladder and play

575
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: through the qualifiers and get a spot in the championship.

576
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: So it's tough to say, I kind of see where

577
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: you're going there with it's tough to keep track of

578
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: all the different qualifiers and everything, but there's there's some

579
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: certain aspects of it that I wouldn't want them to lose.

580
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: As we're talking here, I didn't quite get it, but

581
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: I was thinking of the Roy McAvoy line about it

582
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. There's man, I should have just pulled it

583
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: up beforehand. I was a little too late getting there,

584
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: but we all know it. Uh there's something about stripper

585
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: in there somewhere, or there's something about give.

586
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: It the old steroid jerk. That's that's one of my

587
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: favorite lines from there.

588
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, this one was like, you know, talking about

589
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: specifically the US Open, where it's the most democratic tournament

590
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: of all time. It doesn't matter if you're a great player,

591
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: if you're you know, black, blank and blank. It's eluding

592
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: me right now, which.

593
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: I was gonna go with you. I was gonna go

594
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: with Cheech Mayn. You always play better.

595
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: Shit face, Wow, that's great one. We can sit here

596
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: and just do Tin Cup lines forever, firing Chili Peppers

597
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: up Jansen's ass. I mean, which is to me, tin

598
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: Cup gets a full extra star. I thought it was good.

599
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was great gets a full extra

600
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: star for not saying, hey, you know, like either just

601
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: using generic actors and giving them generic names, or having

602
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: actual pros but giving them different names. The fact that

603
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: you're actually using the true professionals who are who are

604
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: part of the game, and so it's not firing Chili

605
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: peppers up Smith's ass, it's Lee Jansen's ass. It's that

606
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: part of it. To me, you know, having Peter Jacobson

607
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: win it like that was cool as hell. I thought

608
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: that like really made that movie. So in any case, yes,

609
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: I love the fact that it's the most open and

610
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: democratic golf tournament. But I just wonder if not that

611
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: you need to coddle or any do anything special for

612
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: the world's best players, but when a lot of the

613
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: world's best players aren't necessarily qualified already are just saying

614
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: you know what, I just it's I got a long schedule.

615
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: I just can't do it. As opposed to the guy

616
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: who is a driving range pro, and yeah, I'm gonna

617
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: drive a thousand miles to go play in this thirty

618
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: six hole sectional qualifier and if I get in, I

619
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: get in, which is great. I love that story. I

620
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: don't know, again, like you, I don't have a great

621
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: answer for it. Do we need more top professionals as

622
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: opposed to non top professionals in the US Open? Maybe not.

623
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: Maybe we're good already and just hey, whoever gets in

624
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: gets in, which again, I'm with you. I always have

625
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: loved the US Open because of that. So it just

626
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: feels to me like there are a lot of withdrawals

627
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: right now where guys are just saying, look, I want

628
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: to play in the US Open. I'm not gonna screw

629
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: up everything just to play in the US Open. Speaking

630
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: of which, question number five for those who you know,

631
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: maybe take a long holiday weekend and we weren't paying

632
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: a whole lot of attention. I'll catch you up here.

633
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: But Shanshan Finn on Sunday reached the semi finals of

634
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: the inaugural Bank of Hope match Play on the LPGA,

635
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: played at Shadow Creek. It was a really cool event

636
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: and she lost in the Semis and went to a

637
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: what was supposed to be a consolation match with Area

638
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: jew Tanna Garden, and the difference between third and fourth

639
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: place was just under twenty three thousand dollars, and Shanshan,

640
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: with the US Women's Open coming up this week at

641
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: Olympic Club, said no, thanks, I'll concede. It just said no,

642
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm not playing in this thing consolation that She didn't

643
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: say this, she just said, I want to rest up.

644
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Speaker 2: I am perhaps paraphrasing her thoughts, thinking, who cares about

645
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Speaker 2: a damn consolation match? This is stupid. I'm going to

646
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Speaker 2: go to San Francisco and rest up a little bit

647
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Speaker 2: before what's going to be a really big week. Your

648
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Speaker 2: thoughts on her decision.

649
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Speaker 3: I'm perfectly fine with it, Like do we know that? Okay,

650
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Speaker 3: let's say if she plays the Constellation match, then she's

651
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Speaker 3: got to fly out Monday and then she doesn't get

652
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Speaker 3: to play a practice round Monday morning at Olympic, which

653
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Speaker 3: is more valuable to her. And like you made this point,

654
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Speaker 3: I think, either on Twitter or in your preview article

655
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Speaker 3: this week that look, the Constellation match is entirely for television.

656
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: It's literally only there and this goes for the WGC

657
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: match play too. I mean, look, you can earn some

658
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: World ranking points, there's some money on the line, FedEx

659
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: Cup points. Whatever. It exists because they need something to

660
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: show in between shots of the championship match, because the

661
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: slowest golf tournament broadcast of the year is the Championship

662
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: of a match play, because there's only two guys hitting shots,

663
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: and most of it is most of the If you

664
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Speaker 3: only had those two, it'd be most of your broadcast

665
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: is just two dudes and their caddies walking up a fairway,

666
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: like there's just not that much action to show. So

667
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Speaker 3: that's why the consellation match even exists. I'm perfectly fine

668
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Speaker 3: with it if she if the fact that there's a

669
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Speaker 3: major championship next week, that probably lends me to be

670
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Speaker 3: okay with it. If she had just said ask through it,

671
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Speaker 3: I don't want to play and you know she's off

672
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Speaker 3: next week, okay, I think then we're having maybe a

673
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Speaker 3: different kind of conversation about you know, desire to win

674
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Speaker 3: or whatever. But I don't feel that way at all.

675
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Speaker 3: I think that if this was what she thought was

676
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Speaker 3: best for, you know, getting rest, maybe it means an

677
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Speaker 3: extra half day at Olympic to prep. You know, it's

678
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: the US Women's Open. It's the biggest championship in the

679
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: women's game in my eyes, and you know, she felt

680
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Speaker 3: that that was more important.

681
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Speaker 2: I completely agree with you. I will also throw out

682
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Speaker 2: another small conspiracy theory, which Finn herself did not throw

683
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Speaker 2: out there, so I am trying not to put words

684
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Speaker 2: in her mouth. But many LPGA fans were dismayed at

685
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: the fact that and it might have had something to

686
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Speaker 2: do with the fact that this was a late addition

687
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: to the schedule, but it was barely on TV, and

688
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: when it was on TV, most of it was tape delayed.

689
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Speaker 2: Which is, you take this really cool event with a

690
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: lot of really good players. You've got some great matches

691
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Speaker 2: going on. You've never really done this at Shadow Creek,

692
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Speaker 2: especially for the LPGA that used to have a match

693
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Speaker 2: play that I believe was in New Jersey. But you've

694
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Speaker 2: got a great backdrop for this whole thing, and you

695
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Speaker 2: don't really put much on TV. I don't know that

696
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Speaker 2: Shan chan Fen is necessarily carrying the banner for the

697
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Speaker 2: entire LPGA, But our former employer decided not to air

698
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Speaker 2: much of this. And when we say, hey, this consolation

699
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: match really is a TV product. I wonder if there's

700
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Speaker 2: any small percentage of her decision that was, Hey, you

701
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: know what, you don't want to show us on TV

702
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: that much, but then you want me to play in

703
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: a match just so you can show it on TV.

704
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: Here's what you can do with your consolation match.

705
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Speaker 3: I hear you. I kind of agree too. I mean,

706
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Speaker 3: that was one of the things that was kind of disappointing.

707
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Speaker 3: I was really excited about seeing that match play event.

708
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Speaker 3: But same week as a senior major. You know, same

709
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: week at the PGA Tour is always going to take

710
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Speaker 3: precedent from the broadcasters perspective, and you know, they had

711
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Speaker 3: more They felt that the senior Major was a little

712
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: bit more important, So, you know, it's unfortunate. But if

713
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Speaker 3: that was a statement she was trying to make, then

714
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Speaker 3: you know it was delivered.

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Speaker 2: I think yes, I think so, and I don't necessarily

716
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Speaker 2: mind that statement.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the Memorial Tournament this week and looking

748
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Speaker 2: at the odds from Bett to MGM Jay Ray, I

749
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: would say on most weeks, you and I could probably

750
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: probably come pretty close to nailing at least the names

751
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: on the board, and you know, I think we'd get

752
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: within a point or two on the numbers, but I'm

753
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: not sure we would have necessarily gotten this. There are

754
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: some interesting ones at least going down the top. For me,

755
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: John Rahm is your favorite at eleven to one. I'm

756
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: not exactly sure other than winning this golf tournament last

757
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: year on what was a very different golf course than

758
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: we should see this week, I'm not sure what makes

759
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: John Rahm the favorite and such a favorite, but he

760
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: is the favorite at eleven to one. Bryce is at sixteen,

761
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: Jordan at sixteen, Jt at sixteen, Rory at sixteen, Colin

762
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Speaker 2: Morricow at eighteen. He of course won the workday on

763
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Speaker 2: this golf golf course the week before the memorial last year.

764
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Speaker 2: Victor Hovelin at eighteen, Xanderschoffley at twenty. I'll go down

765
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Speaker 2: the list just a little bit here for those who

766
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 2: are still getting into this week. Adecci twenty two, can't

767
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: lee former winner twenty two as well, just like a decie.

768
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Speaker 2: Tony Fenw with a nice record there at twenty five,

769
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Speaker 2: and Corey Connor is the last man who is shorter

770
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Speaker 2: than thirty one. He's at twenty eight to one this week.

771
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, is it just me or does that

772
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: seem like a sort of weird kind of mishmash of

773
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: you know, hey, I guess rom One, so we'll make

774
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: them the favorite, and then a bunch of these other

775
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: guys they're really good, so we'll just like put them

776
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: all tied for second.

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Speaker 3: It's tough. And if you look at another book too

778
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: that I had up as well, they have Bryson as

779
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: the ninth highest to win on the board, which I

780
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: thought was I thought was a mistake when I read that.

781
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: But their mix one to ten is kind of like

782
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 3: Rom's the top on the other draft bookmaker's board as well,

783
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: But it's like the same ten names, but they're in

784
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: a completely different order. So maybe that speaks a little

785
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: bit to the lack of a really dominant player right

786
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: now in the sport. You know, Dustin Johnson is not

787
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: playing this week. He's number one in the world, but

788
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: he hasn't really played like the number one player in

789
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: the world for several months now. I mean, there's a

790
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 3: little bit of a We've mentioned a couple of times

791
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Speaker 3: the three guys with multiple wins this season on the

792
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: PGA Tour. It's a little bit of a mishmash of

793
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: guys who There's a lot of guys playing some pretty

794
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: good golf, but there's no one who's an overwhelming, you know,

795
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: dominant player here. I'm interested to see what those course

796
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: changers are like. I know they they added a bunch

797
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: of trees, which I think is gonna be interesting with

798
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: some of the the way it looks a little bit visually,

799
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a little bit different. But yeah, no,

800
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: at the top of the board, like Rom, I can

801
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: see why he's a favorite in this week, not just

802
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: because of he's a divindon champion. He's ball striking metrics

803
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: are still really high this season. He's third strokes skin

804
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 3: off the t third and t to greens, six and greens.

805
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: In regulation, he's outside the top one hundred strokes game putting.

806
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: That doesn't necessarily bother me as much this week because

807
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: the Memorial Tournament is one of the least indicative strokes

808
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: game putting success leads to winning weeks. It's one of

809
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: the least important weeks of the season and it comes

810
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: to that. So he's really interesting to me. The other

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Speaker 3: guy who's near the top of the board who's fascinating

812
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 3: me this week, which Rory McElroy. Are we gonna get?

813
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: He played the par fives over par at the PGA Championship,

814
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 3: which he's literally only done three times in his PGA

815
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 3: Tour career. Over the course of seventy two holes, his

816
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: par five scoring average his rank has dropped each of

817
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: the last five seasons. So I thought was really interesting

818
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: because when you think of peak Rory McElroy, he's a

819
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: viscerating par fives and that's a way he's able to

820
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: get that huge advantage in the field, not necessarily doing it.

821
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Speaker 3: This year. He's down to forty eighth on tour this

822
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: season in par five, scoring four top ten finishes in

823
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 3: nine starts here Jacks event, which you know is a nice,

824
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 3: nice history for him. He's got some pretty good low

825
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: rounds throughout his career. The Memorial Tournament. But he's really

826
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: interesting because I don't know which guy is going to

827
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: show up, the one who won at Quail Howo or

828
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: the one we saw it key one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I think that if I'm

830
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: looking at the top of the board of those really

831
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: big names, JT is the guy that I probably like

832
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: the most. I looked at. The last time JT went

833
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: six consecutive events without a top ten, which he's done

834
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: right now, culminating this past weekend at Colonial was early

835
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: to mid twenty nineteen, and right afterwards he went on

836
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: a tear where he won like he won two or

837
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: three in the next seven and had a bunch of

838
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: other top ten. So he's going to turn it around,

839
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: and when he does, you want to be on the

840
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: right side of it. And much like the Players Championship,

841
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: where he's a little bit of a bigger number, for

842
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: who he is and how he can go out there

843
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 2: and dominate that maybe there's some thought there. I will

844
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: also peel back the curtain just a little bit, Jray.

845
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 2: This being especially, I'm always working on my research, usually

846
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: during the final round of the previous week's event, and

847
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: so this week being more all day weekend, I was

848
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: playing at a golf event on Monday morning, so I

849
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna have the time on Monday to sit and

850
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: really finesse and go over sort of all my work

851
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: going into it. So I was gonna finish everything on

852
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: Sunday night. And of course the odds are not out,

853
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: not any reputable book at least has odds out on

854
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: Sunday night, so a lot of them I'm guessing at.

855
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: And so I put down my favorite outright play, which

856
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: I thought would have a pretty good number next to it.

857
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: And I had a whole reason, And the reason is,

858
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: you know, there's a nice little narrative going at Millfield

859
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: Village where young players who certainly aren't surprises over the

860
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: last few years, but have used this Guys we know

861
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: are going to be stars, have used this event, or

862
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: at least this venue as a stepping stone to bigger

863
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: and better things. Bryson in eighteen, Patrick Cantley in nineteen.

864
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: Last year, I don't know that you put John Rahm

865
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: on that list doesn't really fit kind of. I mean,

866
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: you know, maybe if he wins the US Open this year,

867
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: we'd say, hey, Memorials like a big one before.

868
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: That, Yes, give you another one. Adki Matziana he one

869
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: of his first wins in his career was at the

870
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: Memorial tournament as.

871
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: Well, there you go. And I was gonna throw in

872
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: Colin Morrikala, who of course won the work Day last

873
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: year but still at the same venue, and you know,

874
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: of course won a PGA championship not long after that,

875
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: and so looking for an up and coming young stud

876
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: who we all know is going to be a star

877
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: and is playing well. Victor Hovland is my guy. Didn't

878
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: play grant the Memorial last year. I had one really

879
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: good round in three really bad rounds, remember how tough

880
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: it was, finished in forty eighth place. Did finish in

881
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: third though, at the work Day on the same golf

882
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: course the week before. I think this week is going

883
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: to play more like the Workday than the Memorial last year.

884
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's going to be nearly as

885
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: hard as it was before they tore it up for

886
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: the Memorial tournament right afterwards. And so I like Hovelin,

887
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: and then I see this morning on one book, Holand

888
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: was the second favorite on the board, which is unbelievable

889
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: to me. So I'd like the people out there to

890
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: know that I am kind of flying blind when I'm

891
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: making a lot of these pics and writing the preview stuff,

892
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: especially this week, because I wasn't gonna be working much

893
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: on Monday, and then all of a sudden, like you know,

894
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: there's nothing worse than that, Like, hey, here's my favorite.

895
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: He should be like eighth or ninth on the board,

896
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden comes out as like

897
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: number two, number three. Okay, So I still really like

898
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: Victor Hoblin this week, but not quite as much as

899
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: the books might like him. I don't know. I just

900
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: I'm a little flabbergasted to the fact that he is

901
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: his odds are that short. But yes, I still like him.

902
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say one more thing about Hoblin, which

903
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: I found out today a little surprised to see this

904
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: leads the PGA tourd scoring average this season. Victor Holm

905
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: it's been something that's the number the leader has been

906
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: in flux. Russell Henley led for a little while, but

907
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: Victor Holin currently the leader on the tour in scoring average.

908
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: I feel like, very quickly, Jay Ray, we've gone from

909
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: even like at the Players Championship two months ago, I

910
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: feel like we were at a point where we go, Man,

911
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: the best players in the world are all playing really well,

912
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: and on any given, these guys are all studs, and

913
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: they're all they're all just like playing great, and this

914
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: is you know, golf is great and the world is wonderful,

915
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: and it's really hard to bet on. And I feel

916
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: like we've gone from that point to you look at

917
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: all of the game's top players right now, you go, oh,

918
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: he's got that thing, he's got this thing, and he's

919
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: got the other thing, and there's not one that looks

920
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: infallible right now. I mean John Rown, We're sitting looking

921
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: at John Rams, the favorite. I'm like, I'm going back

922
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: and looking at what John Ram's done lately. I'm like,

923
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: it's okay. I mean, yeah, he's certainly not a guy

924
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: where I'm sure, and granted, Tiger factors into a lot

925
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: of this, but if you looked at Memorial Tournament favorites

926
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: over the years, there's a lot more good stuff going

927
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: on in the weeks leading up to this event, usually

928
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: for those favorites than John on the side.

929
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: Maybe the perspective we have that is that you shared

930
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: there where we don't feel like the best guys are

931
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 3: playing their best. Maybe he's just a little bit skewed

932
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: from Kiwa, you know, where Phil won at fifty years

933
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 3: old and Patty Harrington was tied for fourth, and Ricky

934
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: Fowler hadn't had a top ten and whatever fifteen months

935
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: and he showed up. You know, it was kind of

936
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: a crazy, you know, outlier a little bit, you know,

937
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: that week, And maybe that's one of the reasons why

938
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 3: we feel that way. Another guy who's towards the top

939
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: of the board who I think is really interesting this week.

940
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: Patrick Cantlay has an awesome history in this golf tournament.

941
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: He's one here before. He leads everyone in birdie average

942
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 3: in his career here. He has the best cumuli scored

943
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: apart at the Memorial Tournament the last five years. He's

944
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 3: also missed the cut four of his last five tournaments

945
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: that actually had a cut. I don't know which guy

946
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna see, and he's maybe he's maybe the most

947
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: indicative of that these elite players right now where you

948
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: don't really know what you're gonna get, where kind of

949
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: Rory's in that vein, Rom's in that vein. I like

950
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: your point you made about j T, because you know

951
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: he's finished. I just have him been flashy the last

952
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: month and a half or so, but if you look

953
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: at the underlying numbers, his ball striking hasn't been bad.

954
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: It's been traditional, really good JT ball striking. He's just

955
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: had some abysmal putting weeks and that's something we can

956
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: get hot and cold with Thomas. So I think he's,

957
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 3: you know, he's somebody who's interesting to me this week

958
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: going into it.

959
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on can'tley twenty third of the PGA Championship

960
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: in his last start, coming off a handful of miscuts

961
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: before that. But the ball striking numbers were pretty good

962
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: at QUA, certainly much better than they've been. All Right,

963
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: I gave you those top twelve on the board. I

964
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: won't read through this entire if we're gonna call mid

965
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 2: tier sort of thirty three to one and longer this week,

966
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: but I won't read through all the names, but there's

967
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: a lot of value on this part of the board.

968
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: I think this week I'm just gonna reel off a

969
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 2: few names and see if if my list in your

970
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: list cross paths and all here. Patrick Reid thirty three

971
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: to one like it. Gary Woodland forty to one like that.

972
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: Joaqi Neiman forty to one love that one. I think

973
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: he's ready to play some really solid golf. There's gonna

974
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: be a lot of Charlie Hoffmen love at fifty to one.

975
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: I don't hate it, but Charlie Hoffman has a brutal

976
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: history at Mirfield Village, So caveat emptor for everybody that

977
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: wants to jump on the Charlie Hoffman bad wagon right now,

978
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: I would rather at fifty to one take Keegan Bradley,

979
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: who's got a nice history here and has been playing

980
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: really good golf. Or Shane Lowry, who sort of the

981
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: same deal. I hasn't played great at this event, but

982
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: he's trending in the right direction right now, just a

983
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: little bit lower. Ricky Fowler, much like Justin Rose I

984
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: talked about earlier, spoke with Ricky Fowler a lot during

985
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: the PGA Championship, and I'm telling you good things are coming.

986
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: It's not all gonna be right away. It's not like

987
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: I always going to peel off wins in his next

988
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: four events, but it is all going to start trending

989
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 2: in the right direction for Ricky very soon.

990
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: So right off the bat, you mentioned people jumping on

991
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: the Charlie Hoffin bandwagon, and literally my note next to

992
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 3: Charlie Hoffman's put some respect on this man's name this season.

993
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: That is why I wrote down he is eighth in

994
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 3: strokes gain total on the PGA Tour.

995
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: Eighth.

996
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: That is hot. That's some lofty stuff for Charlie Hoffan.

997
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: He was seventy seven in that stat last year. He's

998
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: up to fifth on the PGA Tour strokes gained to

999
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: approach per round. He's never seen a level like that

1000
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: in his career. He's figured something out with his approach

1001
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: game that makes him somebody I really like this week.

1002
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: I think he's an interesting top ten top twenty play.

1003
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: I'm not going to pick him to win, but five

1004
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 3: straight top twenty finishes. I know his history is terrible here,

1005
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, but I just I love the approach

1006
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: play metrics too much to ignore Charlie Hoffman, another guy

1007
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: who's he's seen better days in his golf career, but

1008
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: has a great history in this event and is low

1009
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: on the board. I think there's some value. I see

1010
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: Matt Coocher at one hundred to one to win. I

1011
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: don't like him to win. I like him to maybe

1012
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 3: top ten, top twenty. I think there's some value there.

1013
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: Matt Coucher is the best scoring average of any player

1014
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: at the Memorial Tournament the last ten years. More than

1015
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: forty percent of his career rounds have been in the sixties. So,

1016
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: like I said, he's not the player he once was

1017
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: at this point, but so much great course history here.

1018
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: I think there's some value potentially. And the other guy

1019
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: I want to mention there's four guys on the PGA Tour.

1020
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: So the two numbers I'm really honed in on this

1021
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: week are strokes gain approach in scrambling. Last year on

1022
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: the PGA Tour, the toughest course all season long in

1023
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: terms of scrambling percentage was Mirefield Village for the Memorial Tournament.

1024
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: You know what The second toughest was all season Mirrorfield

1025
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: Village from Workday Quistic, Right, So we talked about how

1026
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: important strokes gain approach is. There's four players on tour

1027
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 3: this season who are top thirty in strokes gain approach

1028
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: and scrambling. Patrick Cantleigh, who we talked about leader in

1029
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: scoring average at this event of the last several years.

1030
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: Charlie Hoffman put some respect on his name this season,

1031
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: as I said Russell Henley, who's not playing as good

1032
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 3: at golf as he did about a month or two ago.

1033
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: Doug Gim. Doug Gim really interesting because he ranks really

1034
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 3: high in those two key statistics, one of the four

1035
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: players top thirty strokes gain approach and in scrambling. His

1036
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: scoring average is pretty good, ranked forty fourth on tour,

1037
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: but that underlying ball striking metrics say he's got the

1038
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 3: potential to cart some even lower scores. I think Doug

1039
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: Gim is really interesting this week for some top twenty

1040
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 3: maybe top ten action.

1041
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: I like that as well. I'm gonna read off some

1042
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: numbers to you. These are Charlie Hoffmins results over the

1043
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: years at the Memorial Tournament. I agree with everything you've

1044
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: said about Charlie. I think he's playing great. He's playing

1045
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: out of this world. He's playing the best golf of

1046
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: his career starting in twenty seven, two thousand and seven,

1047
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: fifty fifth, seventy second, forty eighth, sixty eighth, forty second,

1048
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: miss cut, sixty third, nineteenthteen, nineteen, twenty fourteen, forty fifth

1049
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: miss cut, miss cut. Just look, I someone someone's either

1050
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: winning or losing a lot of money based on the

1051
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: Charlie Hoffin decision this week, and I don't know which

1052
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. I'm firmly sitting on the fence right

1053
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: now because I know what he's done lately. I know

1054
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: how well he's playing. I also know that something about

1055
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: this golf course must be in his head based on

1056
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 2: those results, because there's not even what I mean, even

1057
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: the best one. The only top thirty in the mix

1058
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: is a team nineteen. It's not even like well, I really,

1059
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: you know, at least he's got one good title contention

1060
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: in there where we played great. It's like now, I

1061
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: he shot three under the final round and worked his

1062
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: way up the leaderboard on the last day and on paycheck,

1063
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: but it wasn't anything too special, So I don't know.

1064
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: That's an interesting one. Is the our name out here?

1065
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: And I know you mentioned gam and you like him.

1066
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the David Lingmerth Will McGirt on

1067
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: this list somewhere. I don't know that I have it.

1068
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm still not sure that if you showed me the

1069
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: list from twenty fifteen and let me pick one hundred players,

1070
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: I could still pick David Lingmerth, I might still lose

1071
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: money on that event six years later, but I'll throw

1072
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: Luke List out at you. Luke List played off a

1073
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: sponsors exemption this week. Luke List is thirty six years old. Somehow,

1074
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that happened. I had Luke peg

1075
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: this sort of this up and comer just goes to

1076
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: show how old I am and how long I've been

1077
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: doing this, because it was probably twelve years ago when

1078
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 2: he was twenty four, and he was, you know, coming

1079
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: off the corn Ferry Tour at that time, probably the

1080
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: nationwide tour, and he was playing some good golf, and

1081
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, this guy's gonna be not necessarily a superstar,

1082
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: but he was sort of in the same vein back

1083
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: then as hung out with Kegan Bradley a lot, Brendan

1084
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: Steel like. He was kind of one of those types

1085
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: of players who, hey, consistent, good player. When he's got

1086
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 2: his a game, he can contend seriously for a title,

1087
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: and when he doesn't, he'll be, you know, still a

1088
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: decent floor guy that can grind his way to making

1089
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 2: some cuts, and he's played better lately. I could see

1090
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 2: him as a guy we were talking saying this about

1091
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: Coke Crack earlier, that he might play the best golf

1092
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: of his life later in his career. I could see

1093
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: loop List still playing some of the best golf of

1094
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: his life. And he's got a couple of runner ups,

1095
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: a couple of top three finishes on the PGA Tour

1096
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: over the course of his career, but never a guy

1097
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: that's really sort of reached those expectations. But loop List

1098
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: is a guy who I do think that he can

1099
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: have a nice week.

1100
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: This week, I got a name at two fifty to one.

1101
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: Anytime I mentioned how this is one of the least

1102
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: strokes game putting is, it's one of the weeks where

1103
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: it's at its lowest significance right in terms of on

1104
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: the PGA Tour schedule. Anytime you can try to remove

1105
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: putting from the equation, you think about ben On a

1106
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: little bit, because the guy who can strike the hell

1107
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: out of it, just has had abysmal putting numbers throughout

1108
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: most of his career, so you might be able to

1109
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,479
Speaker 3: find some value for him in like a top twenty

1110
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: or a top forty. He's two fifty to one to win.

1111
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, like we've talked about the lang Mirths and

1112
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 3: the mcgirts of the world coming through with wins here,

1113
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: that's always something kind of tough to foresee. But I

1114
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: think that Luke list ideas is very intriguing.

1115
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: By the way. Brendan Steel, who I mentioned as well,

1116
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: two hundred to one. And I will also say that

1117
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: my editor Michael Leeboff, if and this will be a

1118
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: good litmus test to find out if he actually listens

1119
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: to this podcast or not, you should be I assume.

1120
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: But he bets been on every single week no matter what.

1121
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: He's just waiting for him to bust out and win

1122
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: him a lot of money. So the fact that you

1123
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: have targeted ben On as a decent long shot this

1124
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: week might mean that he's like throwing the bank it

1125
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: been on.

1126
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 3: So if you need I don't need that pressure. I

1127
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 3: just grab I just grabbed ben On when I found

1128
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: about the putting not being as significant this.

1129
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: Week Oh no, he trusts me. If he can lay

1130
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: this off on you, he will. But yeah, ben On

1131
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: on a bad idea. And by the way, my boy Steal.

1132
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: You talk about not putting some respect on a guy's name.

1133
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: Steal at two hundred to one and criminally underpriced.

1134
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: Statistically speaking, he's a remarkably average tour player, but it's

1135
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: the steely demeanor and resolve that have plaid the foundation

1136
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 3: for his achievements.

1137
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: The recent results aren't great. He was like seventy seventieth,

1138
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: seventy seventh, seventieth in his last three starts. There were

1139
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: things happening. This is gonna be a much better week.

1140
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: I think I haven't spoken with him, but I think

1141
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: this should be a good one for him this week.

1142
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: You're ready to get to the draftings lineup, let's do it.

1143
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: I like it.

1144
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: I want to be a DFS millionaire. You're just one

1145
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: lineup away.

1146
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna go with him, and you're gonna play better

1147
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: than you ever dreamed of. God damn it, that's what

1148
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: I demanded of you.

1149
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: So let's get drafting.

1150
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 3: First of all, first observation I make here Jordan Spieth

1151
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: the most expensive name on the board, which a little

1152
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: bit surprising to me.

1153
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: Well, and I thought it was interesting when we talked

1154
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: about the top of the board as far as odds,

1155
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: and then you look at usually there's a correlation between

1156
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: prices on DFS, and you look at it and you're like,

1157
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: none of us are on the same page with any

1158
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: of this stuff. This week. This was one of those

1159
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: weeks where it's like, you know, bookmakers and the DFS

1160
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: people are all on vacation for Memorial Day weekend. They're like,

1161
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna throw this up. I can't

1162
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: figure this out. I don't know.

1163
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 3: All right, you let me go first. I'm gonna go

1164
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 3: with a guy at ninety three hundred eight top twenty fives.

1165
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: In his last ten starts, he's become one of the

1166
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: most consistent players on tour, top ten and strokeskin off

1167
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: the t stropskin approach and in greens in the regulation.

1168
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, Corey Connors is now gaining

1169
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: strokes on the field per round with his putter. That's

1170
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: something to look out for. He's really becoming one of

1171
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 3: the more consistent guys on tour. I'll give me Corey

1172
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: at ninety three hundred to start us off like it.

1173
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with maybe my second favorite player

1174
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 2: on the list, but he's a lot cheaper than my favorite.

1175
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: Jackie Neman shows up every single week. I'm not sure

1176
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: people realize just how good this guy is. Didn't play

1177
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: great last week on the weekend seventy two seventy, it's

1178
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: still the scores were decent at the Charles Schwab Challenge.

1179
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: But I remember when Nieman came out speaking with him.

1180
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: I believe it was the vals Bar Championship. It was

1181
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: like three years ago, four years ago. He was eighteen,

1182
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: nineteen years old making one of his first starts. Might

1183
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 2: have still been an amateur at that point, and I'm

1184
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: sure he had turned professional then. And I spoke of

1185
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: the mass and like, what kind of courses you know,

1186
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: kind of serve your game? Where do you like to

1187
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: play well? In Chili we have all these tree line

1188
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: golf courses, and I like to be able to like

1189
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 2: move the ball back and forth. I want to play

1190
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: golf shots and be able to work the ball back

1191
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: and forth in and around the trees. I said, okay,

1192
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: all right, so I believe there are some trees at

1193
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: Mirfield Village. Last I checked. I know they've done a

1194
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 2: little redo there.

1195
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: I'll have to verify, but yes, I believe I drew.

1196
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: There are some trees there, so I think Joaking Neiman

1197
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: his guy that is uh, he's ready to pop at

1198
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: some point pretty soon.

1199
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 3: I like it. Good price, awesome ball striking numbers this season,

1200
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: especially strokes gain approach my next pick. I mentioned him earlier.

1201
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 3: I think he's a great value at seventy two hundred

1202
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: this week eleventh on the PGA tourn strokes skain approach.

1203
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 3: He's in the top twenty in scrambling as well. That's

1204
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 3: going to be really important this week. Like I mentioned

1205
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: the scrambling percentage, the two toughest events on tour last

1206
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: year were at this course in back to back weeks Mierfield,

1207
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: Our Memorial and Workday. Doug Gimme at seventy two hundred,

1208
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 3: I think is going to be some good value there

1209
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 3: this week.

1210
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 2: You know his nickname Gimmer.

1211
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1212
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone else calls him this, but

1213
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: this is sort of the DFS community in the betting

1214
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: community have started calling him the gim Reaper.

1215
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: Oh okay, you like that. I like that. I like it.

1216
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: All right, let's see what more picks. I'm going to

1217
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: go right in the middle of eight thousand and a

1218
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: guy that I've been on for a while now, he's playing,

1219
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 2: talking about playing the best golf of your career. He

1220
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: was seventeenth the PGA, eighteenth at Quail, second at the

1221
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 2: valast Bar, twenty third at the Valero, thirtieth at the Honda,

1222
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: twenty ninth of the players, tenth at the Arnold Palmer.

1223
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just week in, week out, Keegan Bradley

1224
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: continues to show up. He might not win the golf tournament,

1225
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: but he's still that floor is very, very high, and

1226
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: I think the ceiling side. I mean, we've seen from

1227
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: Keegan Bradley over the years that when he's playing his

1228
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: best golf, he's won a major championship, he's won a

1229
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: WGC event, he's won a FedEx Cup playoff event. So

1230
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: he is not scared to go out there and win

1231
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: amongst a really big field. So I like Keegan for

1232
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: what could be should be a good week and could

1233
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: be a really good week.

1234
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 3: Like I mentioned, the less significant statistic of sweeping strokes

1235
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: game putting, Keegan says, if I'm just even with strokes

1236
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: game putting. I just got to not lose strokes of

1237
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: the field. I'm gonna be in good shape. That's how

1238
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: good of a ball striker he is. I like that.

1239
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 3: My next guy, I told you to put some respect

1240
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 3: on his name earlier. I don't care about his bad

1241
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: performances in the past. Memorial. Charlie Hoffman is top ten

1242
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: on tour in strokes gain total and fifth and strokes

1243
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: gain approach. And he's got what what I got the

1244
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: note in front of me, it's five straight top twenty finishes.

1245
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm going with Charlie Hoffman eighty three hundred. That leaves

1246
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: you with eighty four hundred for our last guy.

1247
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 2: All right, Well, if you're gonna put Charlie on there,

1248
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to dig us out of what you.

1249
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: Did not sell me on the course history I was.

1250
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: I'm committed to my narrative here.

1251
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: I know. Look, maybe maybe he'll match that ten nineteen

1252
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: from six or seven years ago and be able to

1253
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: get back into that top twenty mix. All right, so

1254
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: the fe you guys I'm looking at with eighty four

1255
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: hundred left. I really do like Shane Lowry. He won

1256
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: the Bridge Stone, of course, which if you're gonna find

1257
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: a comp course to anything you tell me. Firestone and

1258
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: Mirfield Village kind of comparable.

1259
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, No, that's that's definitely probably

1260
00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: the closest comp you can find.

1261
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so what used to be? Yeah right, you know,

1262
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: obviously we can't go for the young players who didn't

1263
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: play there, but Lowry has some history there. I like him. Look,

1264
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: I like some Jail all the time. I like Billy

1265
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: all the time. Horsell, Ricky Fowler is very very tempting

1266
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: right there, as is Gary Woodland at seventy nine hundred.

1267
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: I think that's a really good price for him. But

1268
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna spend all of our money and I'm gonna

1269
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: go with Shane Lowry at eighty four hundred. I just

1270
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: I like the recent results. He's trending the right direction.

1271
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: Fourth of the PGA Championship a few weeks ago, and

1272
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: I do think that, uh yeah, you talk about scrambling.

1273
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: He's got the one thing we always talk about Shane Lowry.

1274
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: He's got the best hands out there. This is a

1275
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: guy who around the greens is really really good shipping

1276
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: the golf ball, and that should come in handy this week.

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Speaker 2: So that's team Keegan Bradley, Corey Connors, Doug Gim, Charlie Hoffman,

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Speaker 2: Shane Lowry, Joachi Neman. You like that.

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Speaker 3: I know you don't like Charlie here, but let's roll

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Speaker 3: with it. Let's roll with these strong approach play numbers

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Speaker 3: and the significant role that they're gonna play this week

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Speaker 3: at Jack's Plays.

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Speaker 2: Cannot wait. I am gonna right now, like, as soon

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Speaker 2: as we get off the call for this pod, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna put a star like fill in the star on

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Speaker 2: the PGA Tour app next to Charlie Hoffin's name and

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Speaker 2: have him right up on top because I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to see what he does this week. And like I said,

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Speaker 2: people are either winning or losing a lot of money

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Speaker 2: this week based on how Charlie Hoffin plays.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's been what's his favorite golf tournament, Bollero

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Speaker 3: Texas Open, and he's the career earnings leader there difficult course,

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Speaker 3: debanding iron shots, rewards, that ballflight where he's able to

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Speaker 3: control it. I kind of see a lot of similarities

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Speaker 3: there with with Mirfield. I don't know why he hasn't

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Speaker 3: had a lot of success there in the past, but

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Speaker 3: all the numbers are pointing towards success this.

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Speaker 2: Week's Jack Nicholas. No, I'm making that up. If you've

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Speaker 2: listened this far in the pod, do not go with

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Speaker 2: the fact that Charlie Hoffman hates Jack Nicholas. So thanks

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Speaker 2: to everybody out there for listening to this edition of

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Speaker 2: the Action Network Podcast presented by Bett MGM. Thanks so

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Speaker 2: much to Jay Ray for coming back to the pod.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations once again, Buddy.

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Speaker 3: I considered fleeing and leaving forever, but you know I

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Speaker 3: decided to come back.

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Speaker 2: Baby needs a new pair of shoes.

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Speaker 3: FD does. Yeah, those diapers are free.

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Speaker 2: Oh good luck to everybody with your picks for this

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Speaker 2: week's memorial tourment. You can catch Jay Ray and I

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Speaker 2: on the Gimme eight thirty pm Eastern Time this Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Check all your social channels for exactly where you can

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Speaker 2: find that two of us and Amanda Rose every single week.

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Speaker 2: Here's hoping you guys hit the green. We're finished talking