Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the door just swings open, no knock, nothing,
Speaker 1: and Sina walks in, grabs a folding chair, puts it
Speaker 1: in between Bray and just sits there and like is
Speaker 1: staring straight at me, like he like, what what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do about this? And I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: guy who's like two hundreds of eighty pounds. He doesn't
Speaker 1: he doesn't look pissed. He just looks like he's got
Speaker 1: a smirk on his face, like do something.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready?
Speaker 1: Shut up?
Speaker 2: Bouts that hit the fan.
Speaker 1: Welcome to on Section Thursdays are Wrestling with Freddy.
Speaker 2: What's Up?
Speaker 1: Everybody? Welcome to Wrestling with Freddy's other show, unsanction And
Speaker 1: it's the show that you asked for, you created, and
Speaker 1: you get and we'll keep it until you hate it.
Speaker 1: Today's episode, we're going to talk about the announcement John
Speaker 1: Cena made that he is retiring from professional wrestling. We'll
Speaker 1: get into some of the history of John Cena, we'll
Speaker 1: get into some of my personal history with John Cena,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about.
Speaker 2: Some other shit as well.
Speaker 1: First things first, I have a movie coming out you
Speaker 1: guys July twenty sixth. It's called The Girl in the Pool.
Speaker 1: It's like a sexy thriller independent film that we found
Speaker 1: distribution for. It's such a hard thing just to get
Speaker 1: a movie made, let alone complete it. But to get
Speaker 1: distribution is the ultimate and final goal, and it's so
Speaker 1: hard to do, and we accomplished this with an indie movie.
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of the work. And this the movie's
Speaker 1: really cool. It starts me Monica Potter, this Crol, Gabrielle
Speaker 1: Hope Hof. Sorry, I have a friend who's last name
Speaker 1: is ho Kevin Pollock, who I love a stand up
Speaker 1: comic from She's All That. And Monica, who I did
Speaker 1: another movie with I remember the name of im. Sorry,
Speaker 1: but she's awesome. And it comes out July twenty sixth
Speaker 1: in limited theaters. We got some theaters, but it's also
Speaker 1: on Paramount Plus and on Showtime And I think it
Speaker 1: really dig it If you're into like sexy thrillers, who
Speaker 1: did it?
Speaker 2: And you know, yo, that chick's hot.
Speaker 1: And if you're into dudes, you know, I'm old now,
Speaker 1: but there's a hot dude in His name's Tyler Gray.
Speaker 1: The youngsters are like him, all right, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about John Cena speaking of Hollywood. John Cena is mister
Speaker 1: Hollywood now, and he announced that he's retiring from WWE,
Speaker 1: which is always kind of sad, but it gives you
Speaker 1: an opportunity to reflect on their contribution to whatever art
Speaker 1: form they were in, whether it's acting or music. All
Speaker 1: these retirement tours and now he'll have his his wrestling one,
Speaker 1: and unlike Barbara Streiss, end I believe his will be
Speaker 1: the actual final retirement tour. So let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about history ww championships. He's got thirteen of them. Thirteen,
Speaker 1: so not the greatest of all time, but pretty fucking great.
Speaker 1: World Heavyweight Champion three times. Now, that is the championship
Speaker 1: that Vince didn't have as much respect for as his championship,
Speaker 1: so that was the less important one to him, so
Speaker 1: that one doesn't really matter as as much. That's why
Speaker 1: people didn't always give the big goal belt the love,
Speaker 1: because they were like, well, it's not Vince's belt and
Speaker 1: he doesn't care, so.
Speaker 2: Why should we?
Speaker 1: Because the dudes who weren't made the belt belt didn't
Speaker 1: make the dudes a five time United States Champion, five
Speaker 1: time United States Championship mid cart but prestigious just the same,
Speaker 1: not the Intercontinental though the Intercontinental one is usually reserved
Speaker 1: for the workhorse, and John Cena when I was there,
Speaker 1: was the workhorse. So I don't know why he never
Speaker 1: won the Icy Belt. Maybe he just got rocket shipped
Speaker 1: after after he got over and there was no time
Speaker 1: for the Icy title. It was it was straight to
Speaker 1: the WW Championship. He was a WW Tag Team Champion
Speaker 1: two times, once with the Miz and David O'tanga. And
Speaker 1: he was a World Tag Team Championship two times, once
Speaker 1: with Batista and once with Seawn Michaels. I was there
Speaker 1: for the Batista one and we'll get into the story
Speaker 1: behind that because I remember the back.
Speaker 2: Was got pissed at it. He also had two time
Speaker 2: two wins in the.
Speaker 1: Royal Rumble My Favorite pay per view now known as
Speaker 1: a Premium Live event and eight twenty thirteen and he
Speaker 1: won money in the bank, very dangerous match. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: they even put him in it. He won that one
Speaker 1: time in twenty twelve. So anyway, the end is near
Speaker 1: or nigh for John Cena, and he's going to retire
Speaker 1: at the end of twenty twenty five. He will start
Speaker 1: the new era of WWA on Netflix. So Netflix will
Speaker 1: get to see John Cena uncensored on a microphone. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he I don't know if he goes
Speaker 1: anywhere outside of the words damn?
Speaker 2: Would he even say goddamn?
Speaker 1: I wonder what he would try to get away with
Speaker 1: or would he just sticked to the PG John Cena
Speaker 1: that got over to all the kids. I wonder what
Speaker 1: he would do on Netflix? What curse words would he say?
Speaker 1: Hit us up on our social media? What curse words
Speaker 1: do you think John's going to say on Netflix? Or
Speaker 1: am I the only one who gives a shit about
Speaker 1: that stuff? He said he'd be about a part of
Speaker 1: of thirty dates, including including premium live events starting with
Speaker 1: the Royal Rumble. He made it a point to say
Speaker 1: that this WrestleMania in Las Vegas, where my Raiders play,
Speaker 1: will be his last.
Speaker 2: Don't make fun of my team. I know this suck well.
Speaker 1: We beat the Chiefs, though we always beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: We find a way to get there. It's just usually
Speaker 1: the only one we have. He's going to retire the
Speaker 1: jorts and he's going to the gene. Shorts were the
Speaker 1: only like mistake that I thought John Cen ever made.
Speaker 1: I hated the gene shorts. It's always like mah, like
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, like everyone stopped wearing them, but you
Speaker 1: the shorts were brutal. So he's going to find he's
Speaker 1: going to leave the company. Not leave the company, but
Speaker 1: he's going to leave the ring, the squared circle, and
Speaker 1: he's one of the best to ever do it.
Speaker 2: Now. John didn't like me when I was there. I
Speaker 2: like John.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was the nicest guy, but I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say liked because he wasn't. We didn't like each other,
Speaker 1: I guess, but I liked him before I got there,
Speaker 1: but I always respected him. I knew what he meant
Speaker 1: to wrestling. I knew what he was there for. That's
Speaker 1: why his promos were earlier because that's when kids were watching,
Speaker 1: because it was the earlier hour of the show. But
Speaker 1: he took that on like that could have been triple
Speaker 1: h it could have been true, it could have been anybody,
Speaker 1: but nobody else wanted to be a PG champion. John
Speaker 1: Cena took that on his shoulders and he made it
Speaker 1: work and held the company on his shoulder for years.
Speaker 1: On one shoulder. He didn't even need both that's how
Speaker 1: wide that son of a Bitch is, and I mean
Speaker 1: that as a compliment.
Speaker 2: Son of a bitch.
Speaker 1: He was the WWE for his era as and was
Speaker 1: as relevant for his era and who his target was
Speaker 1: as any other major champion they've had at the top, top,
Speaker 1: top level, from Hogan to Rains. I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: was Hogan, but for his generation, that's what he represented.
Speaker 1: He was each your vitamin, say your prayers, listen to
Speaker 1: your parents, do your I mean he was that. He
Speaker 1: represented that once he did the Marine movie and kind
Speaker 1: of found that Gi Joe type character. He should have
Speaker 1: been at Gi Joe. By the way, he would have
Speaker 1: been sick of this duke as friggin do I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it was Channing Tatum the Planet. He did
Speaker 1: a good job, but imagine John Cena's duke, come on, come on. Anyway,
Speaker 1: when I got there, he did not want me there
Speaker 1: at all. And I remember the first time I met him,
Speaker 1: I was super polite, put my hand out to shake
Speaker 1: his hand. He walked right past and didn't even like
Speaker 1: acknowledge me, and I think somebody said something because a
Speaker 1: few minutes later he came up and he goes he goes, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm John, and he put his hand out and I
Speaker 1: shook his hand. I go hey, I'm Freddy. Nice to
Speaker 1: meet you, and he goes, oh, I guess I'll just
Speaker 1: let anybody work here words to that effect. I'm not
Speaker 1: quoting the man, And I was like, all right, cool man,
Speaker 1: and I basically said, I'll rack that up to he
Speaker 1: doesn't want Hollywood in the business, and I represent Hollywood.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know how much I like wrestling.
Speaker 1: And so as my job there evolved as ones does,
Speaker 1: I started running what was called promo Class, which is
Speaker 1: basically an acting class for professional wrestlers. I thought I
Speaker 1: could do a better job teaching acting than Vince could
Speaker 1: because of the way I could deliver information versus the
Speaker 1: way he would deliver information. He would use terminology that
Speaker 1: they just didn't understand. I legit saw him say you
Speaker 1: got to give me some razzle dazzle with your promos,
Speaker 1: and people were looking at each other like, yo, what
Speaker 1: what dald does rassele dazzled like they didn't even know.
Speaker 1: So I approached Vince and said, hey, this is what
Speaker 1: I do. Like, let me take this class over and
Speaker 1: I'll only communicate with you. That'll make the wrestlers feel safe. Ish,
Speaker 1: I won't even tell them that. I report to you,
Speaker 1: and I'll let you know who I think is doing
Speaker 1: a good job, and you know who's who's struggling and
Speaker 1: needs more help, and he says yes, and that becomes
Speaker 1: an addition to my job, without additional salary, just in
Speaker 1: addition to So now I'm running this promo class and
Speaker 1: at first it's all young wrestlers that go in there,
Speaker 1: all the youngsters. This is when MS was young, and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, your old ass deal with that. All of
Speaker 1: them are young youngsters and all the people that are
Speaker 1: veterans now they're They're all in there and we're doing
Speaker 1: this class and it grows from like three people to
Speaker 1: or not three. The first one was like probably nine people,
Speaker 1: and then it grows to like, you know, twenty plus.
Speaker 1: And right when we were around fifteen sixteen, I remember
Speaker 1: Bray why it was Bray, it was Bray Wyatt and
Speaker 1: it was mister Perfect's kid. But they were doing a
Speaker 1: scene from Bad Boys with Martin Martin Lawrence and Will Smith.
Speaker 1: I let them pick scenes from movies and I would
Speaker 1: print up the scripts for him and we would break
Speaker 1: down the scenes the same way you would in acting class.
Speaker 1: And they're both in there doing their doing their thing. No,
Speaker 1: I don't remember who played which part, but you can
Speaker 1: speculate all you want. All of a sudden, the door
Speaker 1: just swings open, no knock, nothing, and Sina walks in,
Speaker 1: grabs a folding chair, puts it in between Bray and
Speaker 1: just sits there and like is staring straight at me,
Speaker 1: like he like, what what are you gonna do about this?
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at this guy who's like two hundreds
Speaker 1: of eighty pounds. He doesn't he doesn't look pissed. He
Speaker 1: just looks like he's got a smirk on his face,
Speaker 1: like do something. And so I'm not going to fight
Speaker 1: a two hundred and eighty pound dude. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to fight John Cena. So I just go, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you want to talk with me outside real quick? And
Speaker 1: we go outside and I go, what the hell is that?
Speaker 2: Man? What do you do it?
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, maybe I'm in these are his words,
Speaker 1: this is a quote. Well maybe I'm a Neanderthal. But
Speaker 1: you can either do this or you can't. So I
Speaker 1: don't see what the hell you're doing.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: This part's not a quote so I don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell you're doing here, or what the f you're
Speaker 1: doing here, or something like that, and I go, I
Speaker 1: completely agree with you one hundred percent, and that's why
Speaker 1: you don't need my help, because you can do it.
Speaker 1: But for the ones that you're you don't have time
Speaker 1: to help, or the ones that you choose not to help.
Speaker 1: I'm here and they're coming to me. I'm not asking
Speaker 1: them to come. They're coming to me asking for help,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing my job. So do you want to
Speaker 1: let me do my job or do you want to
Speaker 1: continue to do.
Speaker 2: Shit like this?
Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, whatever, man, He just kind of
Speaker 1: like walks off, like a ah right, maybe he's just
Speaker 1: given me a hard time. I go back in and
Speaker 1: all the young wrestlers give me an ovation. They start clapping.
Speaker 1: They're like, dude, we thought you were gonna find I'm like,
Speaker 1: shut up, the I had this shit kicked out of me.
Speaker 1: I had some looking guy who has two anvils for hands.
Speaker 1: So everyone has a good laugh. The promo class became
Speaker 1: what it was, which became a really good thing there,
Speaker 1: and they've continued that tradition even after I left over
Speaker 1: at NXT and.
Speaker 2: Within WWE as well.
Speaker 1: So kudos to all those wrestlers for keeping that up
Speaker 1: even after I left and still wanting to improve and
Speaker 1: work with each other and and find new and different
Speaker 1: ways to get their shit over and to get their
Speaker 1: ideas over. And we worked really hard at that. They
Speaker 1: continued that discipline even after I was long gone, and
Speaker 1: continue that shit to this day. So anyway, about six
Speaker 1: months ago, and I had a wrestler cutting a promo
Speaker 1: in the ring. I don't I don't remember who it was.
Speaker 1: This is a long time ago. You guys, they're just
Speaker 1: killing it. They're doing a great job, and they beat
Speaker 1: the what chant. When they started, they were working very
Speaker 1: moment to moment, like tonight on the you know, tonight's
Speaker 1: the night what or I'm gonna settle this score what?
Speaker 1: This is not what I wrote. I'm just giving you
Speaker 1: guys an example. And I'm sitting there like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: just stop the pauses. You don't need the pauses. You
Speaker 1: know this shit, we worked on it, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden he just gets in a flow and starts
Speaker 1: doing this thing, and the whole crowd gets behind and
Speaker 1: they're all young, and Sina was up next and he
Speaker 1: was in the gorilla position. I was sitting next to
Speaker 1: Vince with the headset on talking to the to the
Speaker 1: director's truck to let them know when certain parts of
Speaker 1: the promo that I wanted close ups and things like that.
Speaker 1: Even though they didn't always listen. They would just kind
Speaker 1: of do their own thing because they had their way,
Speaker 1: but I would still try to encourage them, like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's about to start screaming, so get in nice and
Speaker 1: close little things like that, and Vince liked it when
Speaker 1: I gave the truck shit, which I didn't know. So anyway,
Speaker 1: Sina goes, he did a really good job. And I
Speaker 1: had a choice in this moment to choose violence or
Speaker 1: did you not violence? But you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: to be a dick or to be cool, and I
Speaker 1: would just went, yeah, thanks man, whatever, and just kind
Speaker 1: of gave him the same sort of energy that he
Speaker 1: gave me. But I didn't want to be like super
Speaker 1: pretive that he was finally being cool, because I didn't
Speaker 1: think he deserved that in the moment. Again, this is
Speaker 1: like two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: I was younger. I'm forty eight now.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't care, but that was like my like my
Speaker 1: one moment where I could be like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: at least you acknowledged it. So anyway, that was kind
Speaker 1: of my history with him, and that's why. And I
Speaker 1: always said, you know, Evince even talked to me. Was like,
Speaker 1: after the first time the John or the only time
Speaker 1: that John interrupted the class, he goes, so, I heard
Speaker 1: you had a little problem in promo class today, ha
Speaker 1: ha ha. And I was like, nah, man, it was
Speaker 1: it was fine. He's like, well, he's not going to
Speaker 1: mess with you anymore. Don't worry about it. And I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, whatever, I go. It wasn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. But I told him, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a good actor. He'd be an actor.
Speaker 2: One day. He's like, no, I'd never do it.
Speaker 1: And now he's like one of the biggest well not
Speaker 1: one of the biggest stars, but he's a big star
Speaker 1: in Hollywood now and doing his thing. I think he
Speaker 1: has his own production company and he's acting in all
Speaker 1: kinds of movies, whether it's a rom com or an
Speaker 1: action or a comedy. He's trying to, you know, show
Speaker 1: his range and do things like that. Hopefully won't do
Speaker 1: a Mark Kurt thing like the I'm just kidding. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'd be good. Man, We'll see. It's just
Speaker 1: the wigs throwing me off. Man, the wigs really thrown
Speaker 1: me off. But anyway, you guys, John Cena, who do
Speaker 1: you want his last match to be with? Who do
Speaker 1: you see sending him off into the wrestling sunset? Obvious
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame first ballot, as if they even needed
Speaker 1: a first ballot for John Cena, one of the greatest
Speaker 1: to ever do it. Wasn't a big fan of mine,
Speaker 1: but I was still a fan of his.
Speaker 2: He was fine.
Speaker 1: He just didn't want outsiders coming in, and I totally
Speaker 1: get that. I don't like outsiders coming into some of
Speaker 1: my shit either, so I get being protective over that stuff.
Speaker 1: You just watched Doggin, so you guys don't get mad
Speaker 1: at him. I hope you enjoyed the episode. I hope
Speaker 1: you had fun listening to the stories and shout out
Speaker 1: to John Cena. Thank you for everything you contributed to
Speaker 1: the business. The blood, the sweat, the tears on the
Speaker 1: actual canvas that's the center of that damn ring. You
Speaker 1: deserve all the glory and the praise that you're gonna get,
Speaker 1: and people will not be booing.
Speaker 2: You, sir.
Speaker 1: They will be cheering you in every single gal arena
Speaker 1: you go to. So enjoy it and we'll see all
Speaker 1: of you next week on Wrestling with Freddy and each
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