WEBVTT - Proper Trash with Antoni Porowski 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:03.920 Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea, Happy birthday. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.680 It's my birthday today. Even though this is airing on Thursday, 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.160 we're recording it on my fiftieth birthday. Everybody, I am 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.120 fifty years old. Five Oh baby. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.160 You know it's a significant birthday, and hopefully this year 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:20.759 will be just as significant. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.280 It's gonna be significant in more ways than one, hopefully 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:25.720 more good ways than bad ways. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.520 Good. I mean, your book is out, You're going on 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.760 tour in Europe. You have like all these things when 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:33.160 you're just still doing your book tour. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.080 My book is available, everybody. It is finally on the shelves. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.760 So if you are listening to this podcast and you're 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.440 an avid listener, not only do I want you to 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.199 go and purchase my book, I want you to leave 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:48.519 a review on Amazon or Barnesandnoble dot com. Support the 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.240 book if you like it, If you love it, tag 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.520 me and tell me which part you love the most. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.920 I'll retag you and repost you. But I want lots 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:02.240 of interactions. So please, all my podcast listeners, this is 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:02.800 our moment. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.240 This is it. This is it. So where's your birthday 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.319 party in New York? Can you talk about where? When? 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:09.760 All the exciting things. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.320 It's just we threw it together. It's tonight at Mulberry 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.920 or the Mulberry, I don't know, some little kind of 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.720 bar restaurant situation. And I'm going to the ninety second 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.520 street Wide to have a conversation with tanks about my book. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.680 I've done fifty seven talk shows in twenty four hours 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.520 and fifty thousand podcasts, and definitely people know I have 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.920 a book out. There's no way around it. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.400 Good good, I'm so glad. And people may notice that 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.119 you sound a little bit different right now, and that's 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.800 because you are literally in the glam chair getting ready 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.280 to go do both of those things. 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.039 Also, I want to remind people that my Owlsbrew is 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.720 on the shelves. Chelsea Handler's vodka Lemonade is available now 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.760 in store. So if you have a book club and 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.080 you guys want to drink while you're reading, which is 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.000 definitely what you should be doing, and not even if 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.720 you are reading the book, just if you want some nice, 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.120 smooth vodka lemonade mixes. We have Classic, we have Pink, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.360 and we have Mint. And I'm so excited about this 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.560 collab with Owls Brew, So please show your support when 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.200 you can if you like beverages that are mixed, smooth 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.960 and non carbonated. We made them especially for well, for 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.600 me and for you and Chelsea. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.280 We know you have good taste. So we're so excited 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.120 for our guests today too. It's Anthony Parovski, Oh my. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.000 God, wonderful. Let's get the fucking party. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:33.280 Started, and Anthony Perevski's new show, No Taste Like Home 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.040 is on Disney Plus and Nat Geo. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.200 Okay, am I unmuted? 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.880 You are muted now, Chelsea. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:42.840 I'm I'm muted. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:49.320 Oh okay, now, hi nice. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.680 I don't know, guys, I'm sorry. I really don't even 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.000 know how the fuck to use a computer. I mean, 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.520 it really does not matter how many times a week 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.440 I do this. I really still can't understand and what's 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.360 going on, nor do I have any interest in finding out. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:04.280 Case in point. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.920 So this is your first ever podcast episode, right, and 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.240 I'm honored to be your first. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.240 Tax I mean you would you would think so? 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.440 Yeah, it's probably like I can barely send a fucking email. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.840 So, but you're younger, You're a different generation. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.120 I'm forty, I'm most spring Chicken. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.079 That makes you what a millennial forty is that right. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.200 Congratulations on your new show, by the way, that it's 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.080 so sweet, you know, I love that shit. I love 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.519 when you can go travel and have a really beautiful 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:34.240 situation and then also talk to people there about the 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:38.200 culture and like make that actually palatable. For people who 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.280 don't give a shit about other people's culture, it's a 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.880 way for them to no pun intended, swallow it now totally. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.480 Well, I think it takes. My therapist always says she 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.920 can attribute ninety nine point nine percent of the world's 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.120 problems to a lack of embracing of diversity. And we're 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.320 afraid of what we don't understand, and that's how we 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.640 end up we I'm saying collectively, but them, that's how 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.880 like you end up judging people and stereotypes and all 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:03.240 that kind of stuff. And when you get to know 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.320 an individual and you get to know even just like 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.760 the history of addition, like what influenced it and all 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.560 that kind of stuff, it just makes it less scary 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.920 and sorry for the comparison, but like more palatable. You know. 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.840 Well, it's also like I was reading something or listening 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.480 to something who knows what I was doing, and they 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:22.080 were talking about the idea that the color of your skinner, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.159 the way that you look makes you different, like that 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.320 whole somebody had to build that notion because it's so 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.839 fucking stupid. It's like imagining opening up a box of 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.279 crayons and having one color. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.680 I just want to ask, it's the add kicking in. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.120 I see beautiful like snow covered trees. Where are you? 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:39.680 I'm in Whistler, Canada. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.040 Fuck yeah, I love it so much. I lived there 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:42.880 for four months. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:44.400 You did why well? 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.560 In Vancouver and my sister was running a bunch of 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:47.800 stores called Aritzia. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.039 Oh my god, yeah, they give me stuff all the time. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:51.680 Last year they came I came in and they were like, 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.640 we want to give you free jackets. I was like, 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:54.960 that's amazing. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.960 Go ahead, have a line called TNA that my sister called. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.960 Tits and ass where's your accent? From? 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:04.240 My accent? I'm Canadian originally, I'm from Montreal. Our family's Polish. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.479 You have Polish ancestry, do I? Apparently? 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:09.719 How do you know that? 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.599 When we were casting the really big web of like 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.719 dream people, I'm just gonna like throw it out there. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.279 Me and my sister like, forty percent of our identity 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.760 is you like we find that were you, and You're 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.120 just so fucking funny. She's losing her shit. This is 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.240 the coolest thing I've ever done, in her eyes, more 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.120 than like all fucking seasons of Queer Eye. So she 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:29.480 was just really excited about this. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.960 Ah, that's really cute. I love it. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.360 We did initial research and just by googling, we found 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.919 out that you supposedly have some Polish heritage. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.640 Well, I definitely have some Eastern European in there, so 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.480 I'm sure that at one point everything was Poland, wasn't it. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.440 So I'm sure it was Poland. But I love that 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.080 I'm forty percent of your personality. That really makes me prideful. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.159 I love that kind of stuff. So when you were 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.840 doing these, like whenever I have to travel for work, 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.400 I always find it it's such a great idea, and 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.440 then you do it and you're working instead of actually traveling, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.040 and I would always be like, I have to come 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.640 back to this place when I'm not working, Like we 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.560 went to Saint Peter's or no, we went to Moscow, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.359 and that's one place I actually don't have to go 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.880 back to. But when we were there, I was like, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.960 it would be such a different experience if we weren't filming. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.159 I mean, the point of going is to film, but 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.680 then you want like an extra two days to vacation. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.680 I mean what I do is typically I try to 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.040 get somewhere at least a few days earlier. First of all, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.280 jet lag, because it just wipes me off my ass, 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:31.240 and I have to like, what do you. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.440 Take for jet lag? Do do you take new Vigil? 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.400 New Vigil's a good pill for jet lag if you 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:36.640 can get a prescription for it. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.800 Oh, my dad's a physician, and so is my stepmom, 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.400 so I'll get it. I love the oh pharmaceuticals. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.119 Oh yeah, it's like adderall but smooth, like it doesn't 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.479 make you jumpy, and it makes you like if you 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.839 have jet lag and you have to go somewhere, you 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.920 know that feeling is like almost it feels insurmountable. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.279 Oh, I go cross side and then I try to 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.479 stay a few days afterwards. Just take it into like, 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:58.960 cause it's like, when the hell am I going to 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.320 end up in Borneo again? You know what I mean? 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:01.960 Right? 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.640 Probably next season. But I hear what you're saying, So 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:10.080 what's your situation? Are you gay? Straight, fluid? All of 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:11.440 the above, so. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.400 I mean, my past few relationships have been with guys. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.320 I'm still consider myself attracted to women. I've had a 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.920 lot of relationships with women, and I don't know. It's like, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.480 if you had to put me in a box, I 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:24.800 think it would be lilid. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.800 I guess fluid. I mean, who isn't really fluid when 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.880 you really think about it. I think everybody's a little 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.160 bit of something. You know, it's a spectrum, just like 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:34.880 everything else. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.320 I mean, like, how could you know to Zoe Kravitz? 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:41.000 You know, right, of course? Of course, obviously there are 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.960 exceptions to every rule, even if there are no rules. 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.280 What's your family situation? Do you have a brother? 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:46.520 No? 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.320 So I wish in Actually, in elementary school, I used 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.320 to lie that my mom was pregnant and I was 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:52.920 going to have a brother, And they would come back 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.880 from parent teacher conference and be like, you need to 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.000 stop fucking telling everyone that I'm pregnant because it's super awkward. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.640 Like I'm having it, I'm in a mauzzle. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.600 Yeah, I used to lie all the time at school. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.000 I have two older sisters, raised in a very matriarchal household. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.680 Parents are Polish. Everyone was born in Poland or my 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.880 father in Brussels because his family fled there after the war. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.320 I was the first one born in Canada. 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.000 Oh okay, yeah. I lied to my teachers all the 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.520 time too, by the way, whatever, anytime there was an 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.640 opportunity for a lie, I would lie to them just 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.560 because I thought they were kind of insulting to my intelligence. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:24.800 You know. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:26.800 I'm like, they were going to tell me what to do, 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:28.960 like I just couldn't. I couldn't square. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.480 It's like you get to know the real me. 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.880 Yeah, but also you get caught for it, and then 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.400 it's super embarrassing because they're like, you're not going to 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.200 be in the Private Benjamin movie. You're not Goldiehn's daughter, 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.760 You're actually psychopath. And you're like, oh, maybe I am 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.360 a little bit of a psychopath. I started watching the 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.480 Aquafina episode and I was seemed like she was going 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.040 to start crying, and I was like, oh, I would 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.360 love to see her that vulnerable. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.800 Yes, she I feel like she mostly cries. Of the episode, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.640 there's like more tears than not tears. Wow, yes, yes. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.400 Wow, Well we haven't seen that side of Aquafina. That's 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:02.680 pretty cool. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.880 That was by far the most emotional episode. I mean, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.720 I like snot cried. There were it was embarrassing, but 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.400 there are a few scenes were like she had to actually 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.120 take care of me. So with Nora, she hadn't been 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.360 back to South Korea since her mother passed away when 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.839 she was four years old. My mother had this really 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.880 rare illness that she developed as a result of her pregnancy, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.640 and they basically she had a few months left to live, 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.080 and she decided what western medicine, I'm going to lean 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.040 into Eastern practices and she lived until Nora was four. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.199 And the dish that kind of like brought it all together. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:35.960 We were sitting with this woman who had a PhD 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.160 in fermentation, who like supposedly according to herself, cured herself 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.839 with breast cancer using Eastern practices, was making this soup 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.000 with this broth and this rehydrated kelp and these pieces 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.600 of beef, and Nora smelled it as we were doing it, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.360 and she got really emotional and started getting shaky, and 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.400 she was like, wait, I remember this scent from when 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.080 I was four years old. And then we learned that 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.199 this is something in mythology that Koreans used to look 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.000 at whales giving birth and they were depleted of eyes, 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.079 and they would eat calp to make themselves feel better 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.280 because food truly is medicine in their culture. Like themation 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.160 is we NESCo protected and so this won't Like for 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.320 Nora to have that realization that her mom not only 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.000 made a suit for herself but fed it to her 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.040 daughter as a way of trying to heal herself was 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.240 just one of them of most Wow, wild wild Wow, 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:20.920 that's really deep. Yeah. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.760 Yeah, watching someone like take a bite of something, she 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.640 takes one bite and like bursts into tears and is 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.160 just transported. That's the power of scentse that's the power 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.000 of food. And I think it's surprising because the show 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.000 is not people would expect like, oh, Antony's gonna go 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.600 do a cooking shows, and it's not strictly a cooking show. 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.480 It's a little bit who do you Think you are? 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.040 A little bit Anthony Bourday, like very beautifully produced, like 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.360 really rich storytelling, gorgeous vistas. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.520 I went on, who do you think you are? Did 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:50.480 you ever do that? Antony? 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:50.720 No? 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.960 I did it. My director and I did not get 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.680 along either. He was really annoying. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.360 It's just like you're sitting there at a tablet that 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.280 is a comp that we use when we were developing 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.640 the show, and it's fine. It's interesting to learn about 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.439 your family history and all these people that you don't 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.600 know about, but to actually have it be experiential and 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.000 go in and try that things within their environment and 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.800 understand what was going on. We meet the historians and 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.480 genealogists who are like way fucking smarter than I am, 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.400 who are able to provide context into like what was 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.880 going on culturally and politically at the time. And it's 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.440 like the most basic things, Like we were in Senegal 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.160 and we try this thing called dombey, which is like 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.200 a bagette with a bean stew in it, and you 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.840 learn that the importance of it is because you know, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.400 French occupation for hundreds of the years they left. The 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.560 Senegalese were like, we're gonna take the baguett, We're gonna 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.200 fucking make it better, softer, sweeter, We're gonna put in 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.400 our own stew. And now it's basically become It's kind 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:42.760 of like when you're in La and you see like 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.520 burrito stands on every corner. It's like everyone enjoys it. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.240 And this is something that is lily with history and 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.880 has all of these clues as to like what was 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.000 going on at the time. It's just fascinating. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.920 That is fascinating. It's so cool. Yeah, it's so cool 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.040 to be passionate about it. It's also it is very 0:11:59.120 --> 0:11:59.959 Anthony Bourdain. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:01.360 We need that. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.000 Are you hoping to fill his shoes? I mean, obviously 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.760 you don't want to fill his shoes, but you do 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:06.560 want to fill his shoes. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.240 I mean, look, I like I read his books, so 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.080 I was obsessed with him growing up. I certainly don't 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.760 want to be derivative. It is something that comes to mind. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.079 I think where he really excelled was using food as 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.920 that vehicle to tell those personal stories for people to 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.840 understand what was going on in the Middle East and 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.560 all these other places in the world where it was like, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.440 it's about the food, but it's not really about the food. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.719 It's everything that's kind of tied around it. And I 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.160 think what we learn from him is that he just 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.160 went personal and he got to know, like, you got 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:32.840 to tell these like human stories. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.440 You know, what is your least favorite food that you've 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.640 experienced so far? You have to be honest. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.200 Yeah, in Borneo, it didn't make it to the final cut. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.120 But I tried Durian. Are you familiar? No? 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:45.000 Thinky fruit? 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.520 Right, smells like like a rotting chicken carcats like old 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.840 fruit situation. But one of our camera ops described it 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:58.040 as an overly ripe camembert with really sharp garlic. It's 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.560 intense and funky all put almost anything in my mouth. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.320 It's one of those things that, like I tried it, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.160 I don't need to go back there again. It was 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:07.280 a lot of funk. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.640 What is going on in Borneo exactly? 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.560 So with that was the Henry Golding episode. And his 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:20.320 mother is his father's British ex military His mother is 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:24.120 Ebon traditional, like an indigenous tribe in Sarrowwalk, and they 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.040 lived in these longhouses where like forty to sixty families 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.520 have their own living quarters and then the other half 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.560 of the long house. It's literally a longhouse in the 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.760 middle of the jungle. And it's these communal spaces where 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.319 they like teach each other to like cut bamboo and 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.600 put the rice in and put it on the fire 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.240 so that it becomes really nice and sticky. And it's 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.959 just with Henry, it was tricky because he knew so 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.280 much about his family history but we actually uncovered that 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.080 he had literal headhunters in his family line, and he 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.360 had multiples of them, and he had like a witch 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.640 and just kind of like learning about the spiritual practice 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.040 and like the spiritual significance of headhunting when they would 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.760 literally bring back these to their tribe. He remembered when 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:02.360 he was a kid. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.959 He I was like, I was like, what kind of 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.720 head hunter are we talking for a job? 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:07.600 Not the one I'm. 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.120 Thinking, Not the one I'm thinking of. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.679 RCT, not our agents. But he remembers being a kid 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.360 and he was like, I actually remember seeing like human 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:19.080 skulls on like shelves. So to kind of like learn 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.600 the context of the whole thing is just I mean, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.000 it's a whole other world. I tried things like torch ginger. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.480 I tried eight wild ferns, which were freaking delicious, and 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.520 wild egg plant, and it's like everything that they have there. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.160 It was like such a balance of I've never felt 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.080 like I was more out in the wild, like in 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.520 the literal middle of nowhere in nature and just away 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.080 from civilization, but at the same time this very human 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.560 thing of like the sense of community. I've never experienced 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.360 it more strongly than I did being with those people 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:48.880 for a week. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.320 Wow, that's so cool. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.440 I felt like Indiana Jones, All. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.720 Right, let's not get carried away. Did you bring a 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:57.720 lover with you or were you on your own with 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.720 your crew? Like did you bring up plus one? 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.560 I was on on my own with the crew. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.760 Yeah, it's nice to do that on your own, especially 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.400 with a crew, because it's like camp. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.360 It's a small crew, like Queer Eye, where like worship 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.000 a ton of people and we're in the US where 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:12.880 you have trailers and everything there. You don't have any 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.120 of that. When you're in northern Italy with Justin Thurreaux 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.440 or in Borneo. It's like you're waiting, like you're waiting 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:18.920 in a car. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.160 So you don't have a significant other in your dating 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.320 life right now, or you just kind of dating single, 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.440 single and mingle. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.120 By the point where I feel like, whenever I have 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.560 something big or that i'm really excited about professionally, the 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.640 way that it works out, I always happen to be single. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.200 I'm so with you on that. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.880 So with you, I get too. Yeah, because I thought 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:41.040 the love relationships, I love the melding and getting to 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.440 know each other's families and like and. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.520 Then breaking up. Yeah, in that order, Like it's okay 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.280 to break up, but that's not a bad thing. That 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.320 means it's time to move on to something else, Like 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.880 we need to start celebrating divorces and breakups. Who cares. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.760 It's great, it's a new beginning. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:57.920 The lessons you know what to take on to the 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:58.680 next one you have. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.520 Hopefully you learn the lesson. Some people are really really 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.400 remedial and you need to learn the lesson multiple times. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.200 But some people really learn lessons and then that's really nice. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.640 And then you have a celebration, Like every relationship is 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.800 a celebration. You got to know yourself a little bit better. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.880 Yeah, and it's a cycle too, like I'm closer with 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.640 my friends when I'm not in a relationship, I get 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.560 to spend more time with my family. It's you know, 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:20.760 have you. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:21.600 Had your heart broken? 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:22.840 Yes? 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:23.840 What was that? 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:24.080 Like? 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.800 It was devastating, It was really hard. It was I 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:29.720 don't know, Sorry, I didn't expect that, but it was. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.840 It kind of having your heart broken or having my 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.160 heart broken just put into play and had me questions 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.400 sort of like do I need to change as a 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.440 person in some ways? And then in other ways it 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.080 was like, oh no, like I really fucking did my best, 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.280 wasn't perfect, made some mistakes, but like I really fucking 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.080 showed up. I put in the work, I gave it 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.600 all I could. I don't have any regrets. And then 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.840 sometimes I question myself and I'm like, is there anything 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.800 that I need to change? Am I to this or 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.720 to that? And but I'm like obsessed with therapy. I've 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.880 been going on and off since I was seventeen, and 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.080 for me, it's like I love self improvement, and then 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.680 it just kind of brings up that whole notion of 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.119 do I want to change and do I want to evolve? 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.400 But I'm also forty and I'm kind of like I'm 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.520