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Speaker 1: Together? They drink it up with some of the biggest

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Speaker 1: The most professional, unprofessional podcast. This is drinks with every

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Speaker 2: Hey, ain't Sagreeobia?

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Speaker 1: Savia? This is your boy in?

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Speaker 2: What up this DJ e f N?

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Speaker 1: It is a drink chance the motherfucker podcast? Make something.

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited, not because these people are my friends,

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Speaker 2: I knew who they were doing. I seen what they

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Speaker 1: They are the people who edited, who architected the magazine business.

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Speaker 1: twenty years. Also, these guys have been doing it. Wemed it.

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Speaker 1: If you've got four mics, you went gold instantly and

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Speaker 2: Is good and you might work it. This is not

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Speaker 2: back in the days. Back in the days, it was hard.

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Speaker 1: Back in the days, you had to hit chickling circuit.

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Speaker 2: Back in the days, you had to do what you

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Speaker 1: And if you had to get on this magazine, you

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the co owner, the founders.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, let me correct, no coding, the founders of

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Speaker 1: the soft magazine right now in the house. We got

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Speaker 1: Dave make Zino makes something. I want to get straight

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Speaker 1: to the points. You know, one day, me and you

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Speaker 4: But you gotta let them know we do this on

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Speaker 2: And I said, that's course you only got three mics.

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Speaker 2: Just make some noise for that. Hold on, let's make

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Speaker 2: And I thought, Dave, what you thought that I rated

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Speaker 1: But even still though, you know, but even still to

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Speaker 4: how can they really rate your ship properly? And now

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Speaker 1: FN you're the label to be Child's Busy again technical no.

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Speaker 2: Being in Harvard, you already already alad. I was on

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Speaker 4: Radio Give give Dave another drink, Give him another drink.

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Speaker 1: Listen, drink Listen, ben Zeno and Dave, they are my friends.

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Speaker 1: You can tell they my friends. They dugged out bottles

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Speaker 2: These are my friends.

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Speaker 1: I'm We're gonna get to you a lot of stories

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Speaker 2: Of that, like we got family, the family. Like, excuse

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Speaker 2: So how does the Harvard guy you for I'm from Roxbury, Dorchester, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 4: He was doing that, He was doing the Harvard thing.

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Speaker 4: I had grouped the Almighty.

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Speaker 2: Saying Harvard like it's light, Harvid is yeah, niggas in Boston.

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Speaker 4: Harvey was just over there with the police said, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie Davis Davids the blackest white person.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's got brothers, man, he's a he's a brilliant,

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Speaker 1: Look at you know, I love it. You know, get drunk.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the time you got drunk and you

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Speaker 2: I remember, Yeah, I ain't gonna like him.

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Speaker 2: You listen. There was no snapchat, there's no Instagram. Remember,

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Speaker 1: The niggas.

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Speaker 2: He walked to the hotel and they was like, I

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, a body and there

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Speaker 2: Drinking and he started making He started hanging out with me,

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Speaker 2: even though you know, I noticed where you get when

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Speaker 4: You can't see why, you just all over the place.

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Speaker 4: But but that's how they drink like they.

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Speaker 2: Money Me and Sonny. Yeah, i't go for a Dave

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Speaker 2: drink like that too. Dave is a day. Let me

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Speaker 2: just tell you about Dave. Listen, I've hung out with Dave,

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Speaker 2: just like I hung out with you and Dave. He'd

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Speaker 1: He'd just be why, like you.

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Speaker 4: Niggas drink different?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, niggas is the liver boy a TRANSSEXUALI drink.

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Speaker 2: Drink any different.

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Speaker 1: I said, I said it wrong, dry sexual tried anything.

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Speaker 1: Big difference difference.

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Speaker 2: So you know, let's go because you know we on

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Speaker 2: the podcast. I'm still waiting for the always had to

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Speaker 2: ask this question, man, did you have anything to do

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Speaker 2: with that?

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Speaker 1: Miss man?

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Speaker 2: Listen, listen?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm beyonest with you, right, It's like

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Speaker 4: you know, you know, like when you when you have relationships.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying in the industry, male and

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Speaker 4: female friends. You know what I'm saying, like your friends like.

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Speaker 2: You relationship friends, that's different friends.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying like when you when you when you're dealing

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Speaker 4: with covers and magazines. It's all about when relationships with

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Speaker 4: the with the artists. You know what I'm saying. With

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Speaker 1: Got to talk to us for he's proven he's probably

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I think I answered that correctly though where

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Speaker 1: you smashed?

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Speaker 2: Correct, you smashed? We can't we come on, man, that.

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Speaker 1: Class We came here.

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Speaker 2: Any WHOA this is the room on the street, because

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Speaker 1: The room on the street. I got down.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wanted to respect for and my girl room with

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Speaker 4: not I wouldn't even you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying no, no, no, no, because you know

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Just as as gentlemen, we don't.

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Speaker 4: You know, we don't kiss and tell. You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, we don't. We don't as as gentlemen. You

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's just a room on the street.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people. You said that something. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: But there's a rumor that you actually would what both

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Speaker 2: of them? I think.

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Speaker 6: I think I think people need to make a noise

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Speaker 6: for that makes a noise, even if it was.

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Speaker 1: Just a room.

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Speaker 2: Room that's not going to you met your wife is back.

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Speaker 5: In the day.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Listen, listen, listen. Let's say because I'm going I'm

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Speaker 1: Oh man, you.

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Speaker 2: Told me you wanted to do this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you made from that angle scat.

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Speaker 1: I'm a media guy now, Like it's roses reverse, the

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Speaker 1: roses are first, you know, Dave, you knowed to hit

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Speaker 1: So let's you know, you know, answer what you know

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Speaker 4: Honestly, it's about relationships. It's about relationships with everybody in

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Speaker 4: this business.

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Speaker 2: So who you would say is better tell them? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there'll say, so who would you say.

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Speaker 1: Is better rapping?

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Speaker 4: Rapping?

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Speaker 2: Whichever way you want to answer it, I'm being honest

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Speaker 2: with you. We had both of them.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna come in time.

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Speaker 4: You got to.

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Speaker 2: So no, no, no, no, god, you not imagine nothing.

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Speaker 1: You play again?

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Speaker 2: He trying to hip hop?

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Speaker 1: We again?

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of people hip hop?

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Speaker 1: You want to do?

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Speaker 4: That was bullship?

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Speaker 2: Play a game.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to answer the question, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a shot.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, but I got.

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Speaker 1: A quarter shot? What you mean that's the way you

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Speaker 2: Questions if you don't want to answer to drink chat. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: b bye? Hold on, no, no, no, no, we have

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Speaker 2: to compromise that. Wait you don't know. No, let the

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Speaker 1: Agree on that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, pre is not gonna let you a shot. We'll

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Speaker 2: You're my friend.

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Speaker 1: Let me get away a little bit, Let me get

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Speaker 1: a little bit. So which one is better?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 4: which one is better than they both?

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Speaker 1: Incredible answer, great, great ass.

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Speaker 2: That's that's how gentlemen answers on.

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Speaker 1: A little bit, man, little bit and man maybe Mike,

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Speaker 1: I'm a private person when it comes to any type

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Speaker 2: Album worked five nights?

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Speaker 5: You did?

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, she.

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Speaker 2: Didn't get fine, I thought she got phone half.

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Speaker 5: No, I think I think she got she got Okay,

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Speaker 1: My and my am.

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Speaker 2: I do you think she should have got five? Drake goud?

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Speaker 2: You ain't good?

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Speaker 4: I'll answering you the question.

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Speaker 2: I actually do you think she wish she should know?

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Speaker 2: I'm a media guy.

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Speaker 1: Well to ask you why you pointing up on me?

447
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Speaker 1: Like you know? Listen, listen, listen, Well, Gil, you're gonna

448
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: play this game now, Okay, play this. We heard you

449
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Speaker 1: the great fright at one point.

450
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Speaker 4: Yes, you was in love with.

451
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Speaker 2: What the.

452
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Speaker 1: Ft we were talking about. I'm going back. I'm going

453
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Speaker 1: back to here shout.

454
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: I want to see if you're gonna take the shot

455
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Speaker 2: and that and I'm moving on from me. I want

456
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Speaker 2: to see if you take the shot. Come on, I'm

457
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Speaker 2: gonna see if you take the shot on that first involved.

458
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Speaker 2: First of all, this about relationships is about.

459
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Speaker 1: This and we don't know what it's about. I watch

460
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Speaker 1: your podcast.

461
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: None of its none of this.

462
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Speaker 1: Fu all do respell? Got the revitation?

463
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Speaker 2: You've got you I love and I'm gonna drink to that.

464
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Speaker 4: If I love you or you know you drinking out there.

465
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Speaker 2: Drink you take the whole shot.

466
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Speaker 1: I want to see it.

467
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Speaker 2: Take the whole shot. It's going down. It's going down.

468
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: So you was high?

469
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Speaker 1: Fine, I love it. You got yo got you got

470
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Speaker 1: a good hit list, man, come over here, come over here.

471
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Speaker 1: When you're hit listen, you got a brag like it's

472
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Speaker 1: been a pad.

473
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Speaker 2: This is guests in the past.

474
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Speaker 1: Let's come on, let's thank you for getting a good sport.

475
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Speaker 1: You know, baby, were looking at me like.

476
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Speaker 2: We we we we premeditated this. I'm sorry, but listen,

477
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Speaker 2: so let's get back to that. Let's get back to

478
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Speaker 2: right now.

479
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Speaker 1: We have the number one podcast right now, number one

480
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: enemy his name, gonna call him the enemy. But you

481
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Speaker 1: don't want Torect's loud to go somewhere, so listen.

482
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: You want to still shook up from the last secondly up.

483
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: It's all rumors. It's all rumors.

484
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 1: This is all rumors. To day the drink chance none

485
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: of the stories are actual facts. I'm nice, We're actually.

486
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Speaker 2: The hard question or no, no, let's let's keep it back.

487
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: I saw this one of our direct competition people is

488
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: a guy named Elliott Wilson. That was our son.

489
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: Was employed by you?

490
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: Our son?

491
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Speaker 2: Where did he work for you?

492
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Speaker 1: All?

493
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: That? That was our son? Okay, you want to think

494
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: that was our fucking son.

495
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you. Let's go, let's go exactly. Okay,

496
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: So what happened?

497
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Speaker 2: Let's where he was the music editor. He was the

498
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Speaker 2: music editor. What do we adopt him?

499
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Speaker 1: Like?

500
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Speaker 2: So what ya say?

501
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Speaker 4: What do we adopt him?

502
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: Did you say? The people who pay so give?

503
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Speaker 4: He was a cool guy.

504
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Speaker 2: So he was a cool guy. Put in his face.

505
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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no no no no no.

506
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Speaker 4: This was after that was way after.

507
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Speaker 2: David was one years. He was an assistant assistant music

508
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Speaker 2: This is probably like ninety seven ninety.

509
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Speaker 1: He used to get the.

510
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Speaker 7: Phillies in the Dutch nat. After I remembered to get

511
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Speaker 7: our lunch. The lunch then let me probably like some

512
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Speaker 7: some wings and some ship whatever.

513
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Speaker 1: But he used to get the lunch. You know what

514
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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

515
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: I mean like he was like what it was lunch me.

516
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Speaker 2: I mean he was you know, he was.

517
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Speaker 1: Okay.

518
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Speaker 2: He was there for six years, six years about four So.

519
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Speaker 1: You guys put him on gloomed him.

520
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: You told him everything.

521
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 4: He knows everything he's seen at the source. He brought

522
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: over there to excess, which, by the way, parents just

523
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 4: went under Harris Publications. So let me tell you why,

524
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 4: because remember it was always them against us, and now

525
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: since we're Hip Hop Weekly, we actually outlasted Harris Publication.

526
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: So we're gonna make annoy. That's big because after we

527
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: lost the sauce, they thought it was over for us.

528
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Speaker 4: You feel me.

529
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: We was banished into a question and we're gonna get

530
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: back to Elliott. It's great for us. But the new sauce.

531
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Speaker 2: Have you lever bought a new sauce and just looked

532
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: through it? Not? You know like this recently, I would

533
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: never I would never buy you.

534
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: We would never buy it because it was once your company.

535
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: Or you would never buy it because their content.

536
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: Is just not both up the day, both check check.

537
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It ain't not shopping eighteen years.

538
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 4: A lot of things went through us with that, a

539
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 4: lot of good, bad, and ugly.

540
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Speaker 2: Soul and that was cool with Londale Manilan.

541
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Speaker 1: Right with everybody.

542
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Speaker 8: Everybody, Yeah, lawyer, lawyer, anybody was that lawyer back then

543
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 8: everybody was man with so many know, we worked with

544
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 8: so many motherfuckers.

545
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: It was creat Are you trying to.

546
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Speaker 1: Say something like under the table, like he was your lawyer,

547
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: so he knew something? All?

548
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Oh god, No, he just jumped in on some He

549
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: just wanted to be us.

550
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 4: You see a lot of these motherfuckers thought that once, once.

551
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: They noticed the truth, it's the truth. It's the truth.

552
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: Like when Black Enterprise took the magazine look at it,

553
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: look at look. Let me tell y'all secret, right, Me

554
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: and Dave went to Bob Johnson right right before.

555
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Johnson views a dumb that's the guy who used to

556
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Speaker 1: own be.

557
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 4: Own BT before he sold BT for three billion dollars.

558
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: This makes annoys to him selling beats.

559
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Speaker 9: Goddamne even if you're going to a foul story sold

560
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 9: for three I think he.

561
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: Used to own Shott who want to sold the hornets

562
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 4: to Jordan Panthers. Jordan, you know what I'm saying. So

563
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 4: some long story showed you know, we you know we

564
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: we we was in the whole thirty million, like with

565
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Speaker 4: a bank loan, so you know, Bob.

566
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Speaker 2: Which means you had to at least make sixty seventy million.

567
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: Bob wanted, Bob, this makes a noise for y'all niggas

568
00:27:51,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: killing the game. Come on, it was those days was crazy,

569
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: so y'all was in the hole. And he kind of

570
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: he wanted to buy the magazine straight up.

571
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 4: So we I flew his office me and Day, and

572
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: it was at this time with no, this is Bob Johnson.

573
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 2: Bob Johnson, okay, so you know he he we wanted, we.

574
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: Wanted, We wanted eighty million for it. We went and

575
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: asking for eighty million, and he was. He came out

576
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: and he came back. He said, well, I'll write you

577
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: a fifty five million dollars check today. And we was

578
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 4: looking back, you know, saying, you said, you know, Bob,

579
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 4: give us some many We went in the room, Me

580
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: and Day. It was just us too, and we figured

581
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: after like paying off the bank loan and taxes and

582
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: everything else, who would end up with a few million

583
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: dollars a piece. The whole thing about the source was,

584
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Speaker 4: and I say that to say this, the whole thing

585
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: about the source was that how dysfunctional.

586
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: This how as dysfunctional?

587
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 4: How you said, I always get dysfunctional, as it may

588
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 4: have seen the relationship between me and Dave and how

589
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: it was was kind of made the source what it was,

590
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: Dave being from college, being from the streets. It just

591
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: came from two perspectives. And that's how we ran the magazine,

592
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And like, you know, we

593
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: didn't want to lose the source and then be like, okay,

594
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: we're not still runners of it, because we know how

595
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: it's almost like a call.

596
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: That offer was like gage fifty five, but y'all not.

597
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: Y'all are gone. Y'all gone, ya, we just can't yet.

598
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: How about you, Daved?

599
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: You didn't like that as well?

600
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: Not? Do you know? We wanted to stay involved because

601
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: we said bigger things.

602
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: You know, wow, especially with the social awards we did,

603
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: the source of our licensed TV. I mean, we was

604
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: doing major things. But the problem was me and Dave

605
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: wasn't with everybody like in New York and that and

606
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: that and that, like up there, it's like a club

607
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 4: of dudes that have been in and out, you know

608
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: that normal you know what I'm saying. In those offices

609
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: up in New York in the industry, it's the same

610
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: people that just revolved from office to office to office

611
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 4: because they all feel comfortable with each other. And God

612
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: bless them because I've dealt with a lot of them.

613
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: I've made a lot of money with them, So I

614
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 4: have none bad to say about anythings. I just don't

615
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: think that me and Dave was a part of that,

616
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And by that meeting, you know,

617
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: we had our own independent views. We didn't have to

618
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: be politically correct. We didn't have to kiss no ass

619
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Speaker 4: because it stopped up here. We didn't have to answer

620
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Speaker 4: to nobody, and.

621
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Speaker 1: You guys were like the first like major media company

622
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: to invest in online media. I remember that early.

623
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Speaker 2: That's how we lost though.

624
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: Wow, that's ultimately how we lost.

625
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Speaker 1: That's how we wanted. I thought, I thought that was great.

626
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: Now that was that was what.

627
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: The scene tell them that. That was me just investing early.

628
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Speaker 5: When when the dot com came out, when it was

629
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 5: all going crazy with that, that's when I went. I

630
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 5: bet the magazine on the internet, and when I borrowed

631
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Speaker 5: ten fifteen million dollars and started This was.

632
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Speaker 4: Like six seven years before the world sounce it was gone.

633
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, it was just too

634
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: early the bang. It's just nobody understood that, right, we

635
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: was way behe time is everything.

636
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: But Dave, it got to feel crazy now for you

637
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: to know that you had the vision for what because

638
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: while you invest all that money, you actually sink where

639
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be now, So it gotta feel crazy that

640
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: maybe it didn't work, but your idea was one correct,

641
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: you know that, right?

642
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: I mean, well, but that's real though it was him.

643
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: Steve Style was young and they invested up. He asked me,

644
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't know. I don't know

645
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: nothing about that ship. I don't know nothing about computers,

646
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: none of that funk all that, and just I don't

647
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: know what the fuck it is.

648
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: Steve Stolt, I mean, you know what I'm saying.

649
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: Steve is like somebody that we've always had that love

650
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: hate thing with. You know, we've got money with him too,

651
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: we broke bread with him. But then Steve has another

652
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 4: side of him that is about that again, like that crew.

653
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: You know, I call it that crew.

654
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

655
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: I mean, like you know, I'm just saying, like you know,

656
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: at the end of the day the other side, you

657
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like there's there's there's a few sides,

658
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And that's what I say.

659
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: I just think that me and Dave was too a

660
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: little bit rough under the edges for him. We wasn't

661
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: we wasn't status quo and the source was getting money

662
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: like you wanted to do.

663
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 5: Steve to the whole advertising business, Peter Arnell, that was

664
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 5: his first partner in the advertising business. Whenever you know,

665
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 5: when I met Steve, he was, you know, working with

666
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: Kid and Play, like carrying records.

667
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: You see in this industry a lot of people we

668
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: don't get off props when we do the right thing.

669
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to the crop bottle of the story.

670
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: So you're the guy who introduced him to the advertisement

671
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: firm that he started working with and they started doing

672
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: the rebod thing and.

673
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: All absolutely absolutely he got. He was working up at

674
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: RCA Records. He was an A and R up there

675
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: for a little while. Gave a deal. He used to

676
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 2: give me budgets for videos.

677
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I always getting money here,

678
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 4: like budgets to do videos. Take these fifteen stacks, I

679
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: go do the video for like five stacks. You know

680
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Put ten You know what I'm saying.

681
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: I remember one time some shit have I got locked

682
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: up and I had I had spent all the money.

683
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: He came to the boss and he's like, yo, and

684
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 4: it was for this white artist named Based Blackstart of Connecticut.

685
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: You remember Met Frien.

686
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yo, they gave me fifteen.

687
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: That's real bass blast.

688
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: This was before this was like one of the first

689
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: he could.

690
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 4: Steve been trying to do this white rapper thing for

691
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: You know, Steve had visions of this, of a white

692
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: crossover wrapper. He was the first one to really have

693
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: visions of this. You know what I'm saying. I'm sure

694
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: the people had it in their mind, of course when

695
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: Vanilla Ice came up, But I'm saying as far as Steve,

696
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: he he was seeing it from a marketing standpoint of

697
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: look these kids out here, these white kids. We can

698
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: give him someone of their own. And I always felt like, no,

699
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 4: that's the opposite of what hip hop is. So the

700
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: white kids are coming to the hoods because they love

701
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: the music. It has nothing to do with the race.

702
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: You can't make it race because when you make it race.

703
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: That's when it gets a.

704
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Screwed up so interesting thing. We have min Blee on

705
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: here recently, right, and men Blee said he was shouting

706
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: spoke about the Rockefeller break up, right and all like

707
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: all the employees of how like every successful team now

708
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: has a Rockefeller employee. That's that's that's that's a part

709
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: of their team. Whoever it be, do you you guys

710
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: got to feel the same way, like, I mean, how

711
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: many people came from the song? Miss? What did miss?

712
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: Like? Who's guy seeing that?

713
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 4: It's like this, we can you know that what you have?

714
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: You have a guy work the other dude, Okay, it's

715
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 2: not a toy race.

716
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: Mike Mike Elliott who I'm directed on Loving Basketball and.

717
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 10: Elliot Mike Elliott, Wilson, Ellie Wilson, Mike elliotts Mike Elliott

718
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 10: directed record Loving Basketball and a few of the.

719
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: Movies right because I'm so fucked up? He was, Yeah,

720
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: movie you feel me so so little. It's like a

721
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: lot of people came.

722
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 4: Through the office.

723
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: A lot of people came through the sauces.

724
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: We discovered him Tyson Beta discovered the sauce.

725
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: The Boon Docks.

726
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: He was the first remember that yeah.

727
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: Happened.

728
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 5: Well he actually he was doing it in the University

729
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 5: of Maryland newspaper. When I went home to d C,

730
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 5: I had to I think my mom gave me the newspaper.

731
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 5: I seen the comic in there boone Docks just dope.

732
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 4: I remember the first time the sauce only cartoon shipping,

733
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: so like in the newspaper. Yeah, think about think about

734
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: all the graffiti the Sauce introduced. You know what I'm saying, motherfuckers.

735
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: Like honestly, niggas wasn't like.

736
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: You know what the crazy.

737
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: To all my friends. I was like, yo, you know

738
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: I got busy on day Maze, Like people were sitting

739
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: there like you know how much I used to read

740
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: the bag and like they used to every part of that,

741
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Like when a person discovered that in jail, the source magazine.

742
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: I got to command you guys, because there's never been

743
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: a magazine that's been that credible.

744
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: People don't listen to people right now, like if a.

745
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: Person can do another like there's plenty of magazine to

746
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: try to bite your migrating system.

747
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: It never worked. Man, How proud are y'all of that?

748
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I mean, Dave can feel that,

749
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: you know, like I can feel that with you, Dave.

750
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 5: God were there first, you know, and we did it

751
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 5: the right way, you know what I mean. You know

752
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: we kept it, kept it street, kept it real, kept

753
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 5: it hip hop, you.

754
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

755
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 5: And it was it was a beautiful thing and we

756
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 5: were We didn't answer nobody. We owned and controlled our

757
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: own thing. We wasn't you know, we was out of

758
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 5: all the entrepreneurs. You go back and look at the

759
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 5: history Russell Simmons on, everybody down. They all had major

760
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 5: corporation partners back in them.

761
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: You know, ours was completely completely independently. It wasn't until

762
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: the dot com.

763
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 5: That's when you know, I lost control of it because

764
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 5: I bet everything on the dot com.

765
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: And that's what you were, right, You.

766
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: Were just like ahead of his time.

767
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: It was a how can you that's crazy that you

768
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: got to be punished and then imagine that the internet

769
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: is killing print magazine. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

770
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: He knew it though he seen it. He knew it,

771
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: like I know, he's a genie. Seen it. Next time

772
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: he says something, you got to just listen.

773
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: Just give him two years on it.

774
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: I means, it happens.

775
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: But you know, but you can't.

776
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: You can't worry about that ship. Like, let's get to

777
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: the source.

778
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 4: You gotta keep going.

779
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying to the source of wars,

780
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: whose idea was it? And why did everybody get shot.

781
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: Or rock there?

782
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: Nobody ever performance at the couple of net Look at

783
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: that later, brother, I never wanted to saw awad, but listen,

784
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: at this time when you were hot, you had to

785
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: be at the sort how did your guys.

786
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: Come up with that idea?

787
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: Like how does the magazine company figure will do the magazine?

788
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: I mean the whole fun Yeah, the whole there was

789
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 5: was in the whole thing with the Source was to

790
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 5: be a voice for the culture. I mean, so as

791
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 5: we're being a voice for the culture, we're seeing that

792
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 5: hip hop isn't being recognized. In fact, it's being you know,

793
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 5: disrespected at award shows, the Grammys, things like that that

794
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 5: had hip hop categories in the late nineteen eighties. Everything

795
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 5: they were doing was just you know, yeah, disrespectful. So

796
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 5: you know, it was natural for us to want to

797
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: come up with a you know, a forum to be

798
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 5: able to recognize you know, the real stuff that was

799
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 5: going on.

800
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: So that was my that was whole, my whole idea.

801
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: So the first thing was to bring it to MTV

802
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: and your MTV raps.

803
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 5: We did it as a day on your own TV

804
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 5: raps where we gave out the Source Awards.

805
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: That's how it started.

806
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 5: That was the first, the very first one, nineteen ninety

807
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: one with their lover and Doctor Dre.

808
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: You guys gotta stop moving back there. Okay, listen, listen,

809
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: you guys are fucking up this ship. You gotta stop moving. Please,

810
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: you're moving and storing. Smack the please and come over here,

811
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: man bear, So listen, this is what I want to

812
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: ask that Shug Night Day.

813
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: That wasn't the first, so that what was that the

814
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: second or third? Remember Bernie Max hosted the first one.

815
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: Imagine that all right, p Bernie Mac. Yeah, when Bernie

816
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: Mac holds up first.

817
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: Second, it was at the Paramount then in New York,

818
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: New York, the first.

819
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 11: The first was in New York, right, Okay, So how

820
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 11: did that moment when the whole Tank clan came out

821
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 11: o dB, like like we got videotapes and all these

822
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 11: ships right there.

823
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 4: I had like we had to do a Best of

824
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 4: the Source Awards and I had to edit at all them,

825
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: so you know, we had to combine all this ship

826
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 4: and man, just sitting there editing and seeing all these

827
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 4: groups the biggest thing with me.

828
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: Because I come from grouping hip hop and regardless of anything,

829
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: I love hip hop.

830
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm honestly like, for real, I.

831
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: Was in djeh Rock Shocking ray Dog.

832
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: That was your name, Rock Shocking ray Dog.

833
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: That's what you go back to, that name.

834
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 4: So so yeah, I know for Rell was like, you

835
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying honestly like that, that's the essence

836
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: of hip hop. You know what I'm saying, DJ DJ

837
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 4: spending for the motherfuckers, you know, spending.

838
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: But this sousal Wards where Sug Knight, he was in

839
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: New York City? Did you did you know that was

840
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: probably the like the minute where the East coast West

841
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: coast beef not not not saying it sparked, but that

842
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: was the time it came on national front Like we

843
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: had always heard that, you know, there was this been

844
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: some beef brewing, But when Shug.

845
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: Came there, it was like it was timing.

846
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: That was just timing.

847
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: But did you guys, was you guys aware of that?

848
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: But it was timing. It was aware he was going

849
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: to say.

850
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no, it was gonna be tension.

851
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 7: We were aware something could have popped off because you

852
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 7: had heard the beaf or whatever.

853
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we didn't have to what was crazy about

854
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: that particular one like we've had like the later ones,

855
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: we've had more time of security a lot of.

856
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: Times with the Nation of Islam. You know what I'm saying,

857
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: shouts the Nation of Islam.

858
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: You know are company, You've always dealt with security, They've

859
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: always handled it. But back then we really didn't have

860
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: a lot of security at that one. So something was

861
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: gonna jump off when all that ship was saying, when

862
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 4: Sugar saying all that and everything, that would have been the.

863
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: One to pop off because there wasn't a.

864
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: Gang of security yet now was.

865
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: We were just lucky note happened?

866
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: You know, crazy uh came on.

867
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: That was the first one that was that he did

868
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: out on Bell just snacked.

869
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 4: So so what happened so so so so so tribes

870
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: getting the war, you know what I'm saying, Will while

871
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 4: he's getting the war, Pocket is already setting up wherever

872
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: the sound man is bringing him.

873
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: That that was done.

874
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 4: We knew nothing about this guy, nothing about this nigga.

875
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: So the man went to the sound man, told the nigga,

876
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 4: Y know, you're gonna you're gonna put this in there

877
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: the out on bell song that da man or whatever.

878
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: So like they had him off.

879
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: Nobody knew that.

880
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: They just went and just had him hostage.

881
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, they came back about twelve thirteen fourteen date, A

882
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: couple of niggas went right to the sound man. We

883
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 4: never knew this. This is you know what I'm saying.

884
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: I seen big sight and later on he told me

885
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 4: the whole ship. So but I from from my viewpoint,

886
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: went out there. I just remember him going up there

887
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: and then he grabbed because I was like kind of backstage,

888
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: and I remember I was back there with total and

889
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 4: then he just went up there and just you know,

890
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: Q Tip was saying the speech and just grabbed the ship.

891
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: Sit yo, throw that ship out on bail, and all

892
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: the niggas started.

893
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: And the music and my music came on.

894
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 4: He ripped that ship, and I remember backstage, I remember

895
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: what the niggas came back, one of them, at least

896
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: that slightly. The niggas was like one of the niggas

897
00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: was crying, like really upset, like fucked U, it's not

898
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 4: God rest the dead five the other one fight there

899
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: was two more got your rob the other one.

900
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: He was just upset, kicking over ship.

901
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: Just mad.

902
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: They was going to perform and it was presenting. This

903
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: was that big award, you know, second the award.

904
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: It just got it.

905
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: He just went to see how let me get.

906
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 2: That, you know, you know, as wild as the Saucer

907
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: Wards was, and as wild.

908
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 4: As audience though at that first yeah was when that happened.

909
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: Let's make some noise, big audiences.

910
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: Wild as the Sace Awards was, and as and as monumental,

911
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: there has never been somebody on that aspect. Nobody has

912
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: ever been able to hip duplicate no the Sauce Awards

913
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: in a hip hop version. I've never seen an award show.

914
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't give a what happened in backstage. You guys

915
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: held it together like in an award because it was

916
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: it was it was.

917
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: It was amount of respect for the magazine. They really

918
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: for the relation. Like I told you, the relationships like

919
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 4: it's hard giving, you know, dealing with artists and when

920
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 4: they get mics and when they you know what I'm saying,

921
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 4: because again I would have none to do with it

922
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: and motherfuckers could be mad at me because they didn't.

923
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sorry. So anyways, you just made great shows.

924
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm gonna be honest. You guys are

925
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: my friends. You guys are my brothers. You got my family.

926
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying that because of this. I sit

927
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: back and I watch award shows and just so happens.

928
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: There's never been award show presented as dope.

929
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: As the source awards.

930
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

931
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I mean, I remember, I'm just keeping

932
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: it honest with you, like like like how do you

933
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: feel about that? Like do you think it could ever

934
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: be done? Or do you think that you guys do awards.

935
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: You have the blueprint, We had the blueprint, You still

936
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: got the blueprint.

937
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

938
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 4: I'm saying as far as like we started the blueprint

939
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: all right, as far as giving great shows for artists

940
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: that probably wouldn't get the same type of coverage and

941
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 4: other award shows. Once Dave cleared it with the with

942
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 4: the networks to get on because remember it was on

943
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: B T U, p N thirty three. I mean, Dave

944
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: got it all over the place on major networks, on

945
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: cable networks, the social words for like, remember this was

946
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: just a TV show, right all that? Two of them,

947
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: two different and so sound labl Two times on Saturday,

948
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: Saturday afternoon, twelve o'clock, we gave ray j his first

949
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: TV show, Raiji was the first hopest first of all

950
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: TV was us shouts ray J it first.

951
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: So what do you guys think of these award shows now? Like,

952
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: do you think these guys should hire you, like as

953
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: a consultant at least? Don't line?

954
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: Keep it, keep it one thousand.

955
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna try to get that era either you can

956
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: you can't.

957
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no no.

958
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 4: The problem is motherfuckers is scared to fuck with the

959
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: real ship. That's that always been the problem. It's always

960
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: the inability if we can't control certain motherfuckers and their cruise,

961
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: because it ain't easy, you know what I'm saying. But

962
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: it's like, but there's a way that you deal with motherfuckers.

963
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 4: We all know that, we all come from the street.

964
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: We all know how to deal with everybody, you know

965
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But but, but but there's other people

966
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: who can't deal like that.

967
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 10: They don't have that respect, they don't have that they

968
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 10: I think they don't even give it a chance.

969
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, They already assume it's going

970
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: to be some crazy shit, not knowing this is going

971
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 4: to be.

972
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: There, they would they wouldn't even try.

973
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: Right. We never made a commercialing like political.

974
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 4: We just put the hottest street niggas on, like didn't

975
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 4: give a fuck what it was, all over the place.

976
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: And like when you when you go back and look

977
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: at them shows, them shows that go down history.

978
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: It's like what.

979
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: American Bandstand is going to be for rock because those

980
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 4: shows right there, all the Source Awards. It will never

981
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: be like that again, not like that. Not only that though,

982
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 4: but the most iconic groups were together. You know what

983
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying, You a compone?

984
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: How about how about pun did you ever? He said?

985
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: And jerked me like the So that was crazy?

986
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: What did you think about that? That was jerked me

987
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: to the same.

988
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: Do you think you know who's you up against?

989
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: The shock one man.

990
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: Look at me and.

991
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 7: I think this is the situation, right, this gonna beat

992
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 7: me and big shout shot and shout that whole career.

993
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: You listen, at the end of the day, it was myself.

994
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm not hating, but I'm bad of course because you're

995
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: I understand that would be I probably be Patty too.

996
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 2: But who else was up? You sid who else? I

997
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: just don't even being us, I don't remember. It was

998
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: like I don't know.

999
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: That's what made this what's great was that we could

1000
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: so the Chakras the definitely international and at that time,

1001
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: I won't I won't hate, but you know I got love.

1002
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: I love him the Shock but show hell, yeah, I don't.

1003
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 12: Get what was in front of me, dazz because I

1004
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 12: think grew up dropped the album. I think Dad's anchor

1005
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 12: up was there that day. We all looked at each

1006
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 12: other like, yo, what's up?

1007
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: What up up? Like one of us is going up

1008
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: to the shocks all.

1009
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: Way another side that thing jumped up.

1010
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, oh.

1011
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, the silk and yeah, and then the pun

1012
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: made that.

1013
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Rung like did you what the pun said when he

1014
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: said he said? So no, no, no, what the punt said?

1015
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: When we y'all lost?

1016
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 4: What do you say?

1017
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: None of us said not to each other. We were

1018
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: just like this.

1019
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: You know, they paid, you know, listen, the limit is

1020
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: rich like I've never I still haven't got over it,

1021
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: but yeah I want.

1022
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: But that's you know, why I think that you guys

1023
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 2: were so great.

1024
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: You guys were doing It's just like, you know, us

1025
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: doing this episode sometimes we might not know how great

1026
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: it is, but.

1027
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: There's so many people that are young people.

1028
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: Like when we got our viewers back and when you know,

1029
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: people say, you know, we were doing like four hundred thousand,

1030
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: and we were expecting people to say that. The viewers

1031
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: they saying sixteen to twenty four, which lets people know

1032
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: that if people want to go back and research these things.

1033
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1034
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So yo, you guys doing the most legendary awards.

1035
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: You guys had the most legendary magazine. Now you guys

1036
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 1: got Hip Hop Weekly, Like how did that come about?

1037
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: Because it's like, what is that? Like, I don't want

1038
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: to say gossip because that like downplays it or is it?

1039
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 13: I mean, well, you know, after being gueted by the Feds,

1040
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 13: going banquet, losing everything, motherfucker had to start thinking about

1041
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 13: the future and what else that he knows and his

1042
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 13: expertise that we knew that we was magazine man.

1043
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: We knew that if we still funk with each other,

1044
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: we had a chance. We still had the same connection

1045
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 4: day still had the same distribution.

1046
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: So was there ever a time when you guys had

1047
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: that the moment I see, you're just born up the fast.

1048
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 2: But like when you guys said, man, maybe we should

1049
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: separate to be so for sexual harassment, I mean you

1050
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: get into we were supposed to talk about it, all right? No, No,

1051
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: seven years, seven years. It was some crazy that it

1052
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: was crazy.

1053
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 4: We sat there in the federal building, they talking about

1054
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 4: but this is a nigga's nuts in the federal court

1055
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 4: down there.

1056
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: Like that's crazy. That was crazy, right, crazy.

1057
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: So.

1058
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: Hold on.

1059
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: Nuts never gotttle bit. But so we can't talk about

1060
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: the sexual wressle I.

1061
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: Mean, you know you know that like with the source,

1062
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: Like it was my decision to give Kim to be

1063
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: the first women editor and chieved for the magazine's mind

1064
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: and she had been working in five years. I kind

1065
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: of like looked beside the woman man thing and just

1066
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 4: seeing that she was qualified. She was she was a

1067
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 4: hell of a writer. Against popular demand, like this was

1068
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: like an unpopular choice for me to do this. I

1069
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 4: was looking over people and so I did it, you

1070
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And man, we went on and

1071
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 4: we had who.

1072
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: Pulled me that drink. There's no more? Was it dying

1073
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: of the most legendary guest? That was no?

1074
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: No, first you know no, So I mean basically it

1075
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: was just a situation where I've never seen anything like it,

1076
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: you know. But what I noticed in business, like I've

1077
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 4: learned being a part of business, because again I was,

1078
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 4: I was a street nigga, you know what I'm saying,

1079
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: selling drugs, and you know, I learned business and magazine

1080
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 4: through day.

1081
00:51:51,520 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: Right, they've been filming food show for three days. No

1082
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: but no, but no, but but every day sun.

1083
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: But it was like but it was like a long

1084
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 4: time beforeve and money from the sauce when the sauce

1085
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 4: was made from Yeah, it was yeah, it's like so

1086
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 4: I heard.

1087
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 2: The sauce actually started from like a panther a pamphlet, right, Yeah,

1088
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: let to take a newsletter to a thirty million company.

1089
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: Be it's almost anredion dollars.

1090
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: Makes a noise million everybody. I know how niggas work

1091
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: one hundred million?

1092
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: Man, come on, let's do it.

1093
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: So that's crazy man.

1094
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: And now.

1095
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: And now, uh, so many people came from there. There

1096
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: are people that.

1097
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: Because I heard they was what you want to talk

1098
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: about that directly Biggie common yo, Mysie height and then

1099
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: they was in unsign height. Who else you said? Mob

1100
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: deep in them? Bas was in the side, Biggie was

1101
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: in unsigned. Now what.

1102
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: Here you guys go? You guys finally make it. You

1103
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: got a magazine that's popping.

1104
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: Why did you even think about putting on the guys

1105
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: that nobody cared about? Like when I was in the

1106
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: outside of h nobody cared about me. But yet and

1107
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: still you guys had the foresight to see that and

1108
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: put that on.

1109
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: Whose idea was that, Maddie c Maddie part that, Wow.

1110
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't Maddie see the guy who helped discover Biggie

1111
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: as well?

1112
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 4: Yea later on, but the original was like Maddie, I

1113
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 4: mean honestly, Like to be honest, everybody that contributed to

1114
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: the surce is a part of the success of the sauce.

1115
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 4: Throughout all the chaos and everything, you can't take away

1116
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 4: one's work, you know what I'm saying, one's body of work.

1117
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 4: And there was a lot of them, and it was

1118
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: it was from young people who really lived and truly

1119
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 4: what they thought and understand cared about hip hop. I

1120
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: just think that in my opinion, Like, you know, as

1121
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 4: the culture grew and it kind of like it was

1122
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 4: that one at one point, then all of a sudden,

1123
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 4: it started kind of branching off in its own form

1124
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 4: in different places. That's when it was harder to keep

1125
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 4: things together.

1126
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 8: You know.

1127
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: Day the Kids said something on our podcast.

1128
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: He said, hip hop is the only john world music

1129
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: that has a south version, that has an East coast

1130
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: version or right, a west coast right, So we did that,

1131
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: there's no west, but niggas did that.

1132
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what do you think that started.

1133
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: Because of barrels?

1134
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying from ball right.

1135
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 4: But then it's funny because you can say that, like

1136
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: if you in New York, you could be like, yeah,

1137
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 4: we I'm from Queensbridge, I'm from left right. But then

1138
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 4: if you go out of town, nigga from New York, well,

1139
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 4: I'm from motherfucking so I'm from LA.

1140
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 14: So it turns from street to city to you know,

1141
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 14: if you go out the country to go from the

1142
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 14: United States, you know what I'm so like, it's just

1143
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 14: really it's it's you trying to it's us trying to

1144
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 14: wrap something so hard that we're gonna give our lives

1145
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 14: for it right.

1146
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes it don't be the right thing. You know what

1147
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1148
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: You know, so you got stuff together? Man, you guys

1149
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: have beat with Doctor dre Na No no, no, no, no,

1150
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: not like that. Let me clear that up, win again.

1151
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: Let me clear that up. Me clear that up. Clear

1152
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: it up. Let me clear that up.

1153
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: Within the whole, within the whole Eminem thing. Doctor, Let's

1154
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 4: just get it. Doctor Dre is probably one of my heroes,

1155
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 4: like motivators, legends, I mean, influences everything to do with

1156
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 4: hip hop, a lot of it, you know what I'm saying.

1157
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 4: Other than Okay, New York is where I got my

1158
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 4: hip hop from, but Doctor Dre had so much influence

1159
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 4: from his production and just from the groups that he produced,

1160
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 4: and me with my love of West Coast hip hop,

1161
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, because I loved it all.

1162
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 4: It was the situation. Yeah, there was never beef with him,

1163
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 4: and it necessarily wasn't a beef with Eminem.

1164
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: Do you ever like just regret it, just like for what?

1165
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: For what? It hasn't really changed my life, you know

1166
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1167
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 4: I don't.

1168
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't look back I.

1169
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 4: Mean, I know, maybe in a way people could look

1170
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 4: at it as it has, but it really hasn't. Like

1171
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: I'm a hustling nigga that so cracked and drugs from

1172
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 4: a corner and came from the projects.

1173
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: So anything better than that is alright with me. You

1174
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I say that I'm not no nigga.

1175
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 4: That's like I've had millions, I've had nothing and everything between.

1176
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 4: I'm still seeing or been the same nigga.

1177
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: That makes Loyd.

1178
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: So back in the days, you guys like if you

1179
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: was against.

1180
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: The sauce, it was against the sauce.

1181
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: But you guys like you were the first people who

1182
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: to stand up against corporations. We heard rumors of Jimmy

1183
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: Ivian off of you guys deals.

1184
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 4: I mean, that was the whole eminemb that that was

1185
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 4: the situation. Really, the whole thing with that was like

1186
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: I just felt like with MTV cross and.

1187
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: The source of the death jam, right, the sauce you

1188
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: guys like for y'all, then you have the source like

1189
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: compilation and it came out on that.

1190
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: Like that's the first time I ever seen a four

1191
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: and a half million dollar.

1192
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: Check, Like, let's make some noise for that half somebody

1193
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: walk up the apisphere.

1194
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: Of the now compilations.

1195
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 11: And a half.

1196
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: I negotiated compilation. I negotiated that.

1197
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: Okay, did you pay the artists on I negotiaate no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1198
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: I just gotta say, I'm sure they.

1199
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: Do one of those.

1200
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying, you got you guys. I don't know why

1201
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: you guys get a bad rap?

1202
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: Why is it?

1203
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: You know what it is before?

1204
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is, you guys were so powerful

1205
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: that it was easier to say you guys are bad

1206
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: guys than it is for people to try to get

1207
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: to know you.

1208
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is if a person

1209
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: know that that ship is wack, or they know.

1210
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: That they can't get at you, it's easier for them

1211
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: to say, manham source niggas is whatever whatever. But the

1212
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: minute you get in front you guys, you guys are

1213
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: hip hop. A story is you guys are great people. Like,

1214
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: why did you think you guys ever got the bad rap?

1215
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1216
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 4: Because we wasn't like again, we wasn't. We wasn't just

1217
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: buying down you know, he wasn't going along with conform Yeah,

1218
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: conforming conform I don't know that word. It wasn't going

1219
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 4: along with and with the go along. It was like

1220
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 4: the rebels and you know, with me, it's looking like

1221
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: you know, because that's how the fans came in. They

1222
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: thought I was straight. The guy got hit with all

1223
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 4: kinds of money launder and extortion, and they thought that

1224
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 4: I was the big drug deal of funding. And the

1225
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: problem with that was the same thing with murder Inca,

1226
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: is that I don't think the people really understood how

1227
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: many millions of dollars legally we were bringing in the

1228
00:58:49,800 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 4: See they're thinking or murdering y'alls thirty million. Yeah, So

1229
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 4: so they just they just underestimated how much legal money

1230
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 4: it was. They thought it had to be some big

1231
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 4: unlegal operation because of all this money.

1232
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 13: But that's what it was, because they was looking at

1233
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 13: the tax situation after the after.

1234
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 4: The after the criminal broke down, I had dealt the taxes.

1235
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 4: I took it to trial and ended up they found

1236
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 4: me not guilty. I was one of the few to

1237
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 4: be found out guilty. Of course I had to pay

1238
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 4: the still pay the fine, yea like one of the

1239
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 4: fu to be a federal tax took it to the trial,

1240
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 4: to the trial.

1241
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: And you're still on your ground and you go to

1242
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: trial right now. Yeah, they had so.

1243
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 4: Look so they had accountant wired up and ship you

1244
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 4: wir up. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That worked

1245
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: at that, Davey, wait up, hold.

1246
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: On, that's what we wanted that they hired account Dave

1247
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: hired the account, but he did. They approached three Dunkin

1248
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: Donuts over the George Washington.

1249
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: Bridge defens approasted account that you have.

1250
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 4: Asked him high accounted, you know, I was Dunky Donuts

1251
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: that first one on on on Roote four, the first

1252
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 4: Dunkin Donuts.

1253
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: And if he went in there, they sat with him

1254
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: and they said, and he he's he he said.

1255
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 4: The reason he did it because he thought it would

1256
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 4: be excited to do.

1257
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: What he walked for six months and ship wait wait

1258
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: tell men say what's he doing coming around?

1259
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 8: You like just.

1260
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 4: Like conversation talking about conversations. And I'd be like, yo,

1261
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: check this out. I'd be like, my man, I don't

1262
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 4: even know you, Dave.

1263
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1264
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: We talked patriots and jets, the patriots and Jets. Other

1265
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 4: than that, I don't know you, So I don't talk

1266
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 4: to you about nothing.

1267
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: But you knew he was.

1268
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't know nothing.

1269
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: Just I just don't.

1270
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: I just don't even be having these conversations with motherfuckers.

1271
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: We ain't talking sports or some other ship. Motherfuck I'm

1272
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: not sitting talking about taxes and all this other What

1273
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Man? That's what the fuck you

1274
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: hided for. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, go talk today.

1275
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: He hides you.

1276
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't know you.

1277
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And that's how it went

1278
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,479
Speaker 4: until the nigga came when when I was on trial,

1279
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 4: he came in. He couldn't even look at me. I'm

1280
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 4: looking at this nigga like and it was always like,

1281
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 4: it was always cool. I never did nothing to this

1282
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 4: motherf I holly know him. How long was you working with?

1283
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: Worked there? Good five six years life.

1284
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 4: He is making like one hundred and fifty thousand years wire.

1285
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: I was about to say, make some noise for him.

1286
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: We gotta we got we gotta do something that's like

1287
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: the opposite of making.

1288
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was See a lot of people don't understand, right,

1289
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 4: look at I used to give people in the sauce

1290
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 4: like real rail no no, no fuck five MIC's Reil

1291
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 4: Diamond sauce change for the girls and for the.

1292
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: Guys that drilled diamond and ice from Jacob.

1293
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 4: When we spent some money with Jacob, it wasn't ridiculous, man,

1294
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 4: Like we took care of about people.

1295
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1296
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 4: We like, we took care. This was before all the

1297
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 4: fakedam this is the real There wasn't for that, you

1298
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, any ice, This is the real ship.

1299
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 4: We were spending money taking care of niggas and like,

1300
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, man, I just it

1301
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 4: was always an uphill climb for motherfuckers to really try to,

1302
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 4: you know, street niggas fuck with us. But it was

1303
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 4: like the industry motherfuckers wasn't too many fuckers.

1304
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: I knew you for so long. We lived in the

1305
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: same building, and I've never heard the story of a niggah.

1306
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is my first time.

1307
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot, crazy, I'm learning a lot.

1308
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: You gotta rush.

1309
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 15: I just know one thing, though, is that the first

1310
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 15: time I ever heard your neighbors in Carlito's Ways article

1311
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 15: called you the way, that's.

1312
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: What you call it.

1313
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 2: I can't call them that job straight out of jail,

1314
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: and the first time.

1315
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 4: I asked Carlo about Zeno soon as he got out

1316
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 4: of jail. Yeah, hire him because we need niggas like

1317
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 4: that out of like hire him. I was the one

1318
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 4: to do the hip hop behind balls. That was my idea.

1319
01:02:59,360 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1320
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: So you high Coloro strip fresh straight remember, yeah?

1321
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 4: Right yeah, look at well I don't see I mean

1322
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 4: if they still holding grudges this song, Like, come on,

1323
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 4: when you.

1324
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: Say holding grudges, are you saying that?

1325
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: Because because you're saying you have arguments, Every relationship has

1326
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: an argument, whether it's your girl more than arguments.

1327
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there was some thumps there a couple of days.

1328
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 4: It was a couple of about it. I remember who

1329
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 4: was the r c A Records it was, and then

1330
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 4: the source guy, the Sauce niggas came up to the meeting.

1331
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 4: We had an r c A Records were having a

1332
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:39,959
Speaker 4: meeting about our.

1333
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: Op heard is a press day.

1334
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 4: Album Games to Day on our state when when Clue

1335
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 4: was the assistant there, okay r c A Records, Okay,

1336
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 4: before he was DJ Clue, it was saying he was

1337
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 4: just getting you know what I'm saying.

1338
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So they scheduled we didn't know what

1339
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 5: they scheduled the interview.

1340
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,439
Speaker 2: You know, hey were the shore said they were gonna

1341
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: come and interview them. And then they came up there

1342
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: with a subpoena and trying to surf. And when.

1343
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: I heard something about it, they trying to boycott you.

1344
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: No, no, this was another time that it was all related.

1345
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: They came to r c.

1346
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 4: A offices and lied to give upstairs to our to

1347
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 4: our press day.

1348
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: We have all these pressures people.

1349
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 4: The sauce that you guys are like four of them,

1350
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 4: Reggie Dennis, James Bernard is a couple of them. They

1351
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 4: came up there and they stood in front of like

1352
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 4: it was on this big ass table. Now mind you,

1353
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 4: we were happy, were with the people. A golf brooks

1354
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: us up in the building ship like that. They already

1355
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 4: heard niggas was wild. They waiting like to throw us

1356
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 4: out the building anyway.

1357
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: Man CBS is ready to do to us. Just stole

1358
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: on them.

1359
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, as he went through the glass window,

1360
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 4: we got dropped from all the next week.

1361
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: This makes a noise, y'all.

1362
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: Keep the gangster. Sorry if you didn't know Drink Cash podcast,

1363
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: We make noise for the ignorance we love it over here.

1364
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: If you just to take one parrol in here, you

1365
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: mad red man, I can tell you really put it

1366
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: in work this week with me, because Yo, listen, I'm

1367
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: mad black Rock. The case you didn't know I'm Black Ruck.

1368
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: I was from The Fool Show man. It was a

1369
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: part of our Food show. You the first person one

1370
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: of the Food Show and the podcast in the same day.

1371
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: This is what we're planning on doing with the podcast,

1372
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: planning on traveling with the Fool Show, getting people on

1373
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: the Food Show.

1374
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: And then we had Scarface. Then today.

1375
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: That's my god man, he went to the hospital.

1376
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: Yall fucked them up as killing Scarface to that.

1377
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: Contract.

1378
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: If you eat some fun up ship that know, we

1379
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: give you no nigga. I'm gonna be honest. Let's go.

1380
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: It is crazy. He's alway's been crazy, but like in

1381
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: a genius crazy.

1382
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: He walked over his were like this. I was like, Oh,

1383
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: I thought, that's like, how do you swell up? No,

1384
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: it's just swallowup. If you can't breathe, it'll block up

1385
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: you too.

1386
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: You're so big up to facemall. That's my brother, man.

1387
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to the full show. You know

1388
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, we're trying to get you on the

1389
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: podcast tomorrow because you got to make it up to

1390
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: me and my brother. But hang, Hank, but listen, talk

1391
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: to me. Do you think the sauce of feeling like

1392
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: the sauce can ever be recreated? Like something like it,

1393
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: like souls is natural and raw and you know, discovering

1394
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: new talent, because I would say that it would be

1395
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: this podcast, but then I would be lying because we're

1396
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: not discovering new talent. We want to speak to legends

1397
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: and people got these nineties stories, So it can any

1398
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: form of shape or fashion. Can the sauce ever be

1399
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: created where people like if listen in case you guys,

1400
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: did you know, well it was said in the source

1401
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: it was the word of God, Like nobody can dispute it.

1402
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: If CNN got four mics, that's it, nobody disputes it.

1403
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: Can any format could ever recreate that?

1404
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm glad you time.

1405
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: I don't.

1406
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: I don't think so you think that can happen.

1407
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 5: It's possible only because like there's really nothing out there

1408
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 5: right now that's you know.

1409
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: Has like a great voice for the culture. There's nothing

1410
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: really there, you know, there's world star.

1411
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 4: Webs unorganized a digital format. It has to be everything

1412
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 4: that's a combination of digital, TV P. It has to

1413
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 4: be a combination of everything and really multimedia to really

1414
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: get across. But but like with that has to come

1415
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 4: trust then who's doing it. You see, a lot of

1416
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 4: these things that you're talking about all becomes the trust

1417
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 4: and the comfortableness of the person with the people who

1418
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 4: are doing it, how much experience they have, how much

1419
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 4: credibility they have, and and and and and and how

1420
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 4: and how many people they can cross over because it's

1421
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 4: so it's so many different areas of hip.

1422
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: Hop and now, man, it's not like unified like so

1423
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: not only it's territorialized, but it's also sectioned off within

1424
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: the territory. So you know what I mean, it's just

1425
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: it's just a matter of how you try to come

1426
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: and do it.

1427
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I feel like me and David

1428
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 4: put in enough work that you know, like, well, you know,

1429
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 4: we're in talks right now for hip Hop with your

1430
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 4: TV show, I think you know.

1431
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: I mean.

1432
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, not that because it's not about

1433
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 4: necessarily that, but we want to do it more like

1434
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 4: a magazine show, like how we did before The Source

1435
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 4: magazine where entertainment tonight.

1436
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you actually have to get

1437
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: these guys and signed off because TMZ don't we have

1438
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: to get these guys?

1439
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 4: Well no, we we We could actually do that too,

1440
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 4: like if we go on location somewhere, but usually it's

1441
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 4: just blurbs of you know, like yeah, like you know

1442
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, you would get but all them signing.

1443
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: Off because I seen you guys were kind of early

1444
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: on that, like doing the first time I ever heard

1445
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: first Ribby mars was about to be released from prison.

1446
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: I've seen it on Hip Hop Weekly. Like your camera

1447
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 1: guy was out there. He was like like like like

1448
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: everybody else said Rebby Marle was about to be released.

1449
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: I didn't believe it. I look at you.

1450
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1451
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 15: I was.

1452
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: I was on the road somewhere and I looked at

1453
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: hip Hop Weeklies and every time hip Hop Weekly was on,

1454
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: point was posted something. Everything that y'all posted was one accurate.

1455
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: Other reps.

1456
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: We're going to have that on TV.

1457
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 4: See that should be on just like how CNN got it.

1458
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, that's that's what we're

1459
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 4: trying to do. And like I said, look, love us,

1460
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 4: hate us or anything between. You can't take away our

1461
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 4: experience in this game. I mean, we've lived through all

1462
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 4: these decades of hip hop and it's changed dramatically and

1463
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: we're still here, you know, and you know that ain't bragging.

1464
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 4: That's just a testament to just try to be a

1465
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 4: part of the culture and standing the culture, you know

1466
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know, So like no matter what,

1467
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like we we we think

1468
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: that if we can get when we get hip hop

1469
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 4: weekly on TV and get the show, So that's when that's.

1470
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: Going to be the beginning of Now you met lions Gay, right,

1471
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: I met with Lion's Gey.

1472
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 4: Yes, I've been. I've been all through Hollywood with that,

1473
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like shock him a few times.

1474
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 4: But you know what it's like, Like we have talked

1475
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 4: to some people, like you know what I'm saying, Like

1476
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 4: right now, there's a lot of networks that's looking for real,

1477
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 4: like with Empire being so big, there's a lot of

1478
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 4: networks that's you know what I'm saying, looking at Black

1479
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 4: culture like hey, we better fuck with them, you know

1480
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Looking at love and hip hop numbers

1481
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 4: and those are big numbers.

1482
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's a question I'm going to ask you, Dave.

1483
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:48,799
Speaker 1: You know he's always been your partner. You guys are friends,

1484
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: you guys are brothers. But how did you feel the

1485
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: first time he told you he was going to do

1486
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: love and hip hop?

1487
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 4: I mean some ice?

1488
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: How did you feel about that? I mean, I supported it.

1489
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 2: We just moved to Atlanta and then and that one

1490
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: thing that to another, and uh, he told me about it.

1491
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: And because love hip hop was an accident, it was

1492
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: it wasn't that big when you at an accident?

1493
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?

1494
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, you know, me and Stevie have been

1495
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 4: working around. I've been living I was living down here,

1496
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 4: Stevie come fuck with me. Steve was staying like I'll

1497
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 4: come up to John.

1498
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, So you.

1499
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, Like it was, you know I

1500
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 4: went up there Atlanta, Alma Dale Listen. I know I'm don't.

1501
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 4: You guys had a question.

1502
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: You guys had a club.

1503
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: Listen.

1504
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: The first time I ever got.

1505
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 16: Maded club, I got made infamous. Let me tell you

1506
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 16: by me and you don't really know each other, but

1507
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 16: you and Jo all right, this is the funk. This

1508
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 16: is the crazy lived each other. That is the crazy

1509
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 16: in the world. Jobbro Yo, you gotta be quiet, man.

1510
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: Ja ru I moved from Left Rack right to West Orange,

1511
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: New Jersey. Right Jo Rule also all right, y'all.

1512
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: Rul also moves to West Orange, New Jersey. From there,

1513
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: Joh moved saddle Brook correct River, I'm sorry, Sada River

1514
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: live next to you, and then me and you somehow

1515
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: both moved to Miami and they connected us.

1516
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, we all lived like him and John

1517
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: stayed around.

1518
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 4: Just to break it down for people that didn't understand

1519
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 4: that him and John stayed around, lived next door to

1520
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 4: each other. Then me and joall live next door to

1521
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: each other. The me and No we live next so

1522
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 4: we all at some point then as we're living next

1523
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 4: door each other, we all got kids around the same age,

1524
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 4: so they all fucking with each other, and we get close,

1525
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and we start dealing with

1526
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 4: each other's situations. You know, we coming to each other,

1527
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 4: because that's really when I was down here, you know

1528
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I mean, really, you know, going through

1529
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 4: everything relationship proms, problems with ship, we are just with everything.

1530
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: We would we were, we.

1531
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 4: Would talk because we really we both came down here

1532
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 4: like it's not like we.

1533
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: Was in the same boat. We want we wanted, we

1534
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: want to get over right exactly. You know what I'm saying.

1535
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 4: So you know what I mean.

1536
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: So we would confide each other in a lot.

1537
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: You know about you is when I'm when I'm negative,

1538
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 1: you would be positive.

1539
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm positive though, and that was that we could up.

1540
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: They weren't talking, man, Yeah, it's dope, you know what

1541
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1542
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 4: But that's how we got to be so cool really

1543
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 4: because we all spent time with each other. And then

1544
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 4: when you spend time with each other, it's just not

1545
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 4: you're gonna tell them, motherfucker what you want to hear.

1546
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 4: You're gonna tell him what you think is best for him,

1547
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 4: because that's the best type of friend. You know what

1548
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know what I mean, You know, tell

1549
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 4: him what they want to hear. You tell him what's

1550
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 4: best for you, even if they're gonna get matched. Fucking

1551
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 4: we don't talk for a week, two weeks, fucking nigga.

1552
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 4: I gotta say that because I care about you know

1553
01:13:58,760 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

1554
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with everybody makes a noise, rabund.

1555
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: To take a shot, take a shot of something you

1556
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 2: know you're actually hear. I thought she was going to

1557
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: like make up excuse, I'm just going to act.

1558
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 4: Like, look, this is on me. That's zeno.

1559
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, chase your fucking rabbit. Yeah yeah, chase your

1560
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: rab yeah, zino drink Yeah, I have been pressed.

1561
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't a fucking rabbit.

1562
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, chase your rap. I don't drink, but you know,

1563
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 2: you know when it has to be done.

1564
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: Huh. You know you know what I that's your fucking rabbit.

1565
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 2: Listen, that's almadell Just so you know what's that with that?

1566
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: No this is playing?

1567
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh, it's it is. I thought, oh, I thought that

1568
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: was Dave's cup. I was like, oh, you're just going hard.

1569
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: That's gonna chase drinking up and chase up. I was like,

1570
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm chasing my rabbit.

1571
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: That's a nonsense.

1572
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 11: You know.

1573
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,879
Speaker 2: I gave Nae sixty five thousand dollars check.

1574
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 4: The stars, and that never came him out.

1575
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, sixty five sacks for verse that never

1576
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: can get to this story?

1577
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: Right, yo? What kind of art? You ain't even do it?

1578
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 4: How did this story happen? No, it was just he

1579
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 4: was the hottest funk. I wanted the verse from him,

1580
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 4: had the money. But now that we was in California

1581
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 4: after the Steve was fucking with him, you know what

1582
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So probably Steve boy to hook it up.

1583
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 4: And then man, he just came up and I never

1584
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 4: forget gave it to him. He spent the verse and bounced.

1585
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 4: I said, we just say too much to each other.

1586
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 4: He just got the sixty five vans and kept moving.

1587
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 4: We just never I just never used the verse on nothing.

1588
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That it's around matter face

1589
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 4: on YouTube somewhere.

1590
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you did use the word. I put

1591
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 2: nothing to put out to get sold en right, just

1592
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: like I don't know, you're foul, I don't know. You

1593
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: gotta start looking out for yourself.

1594
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: Dows verse.

1595
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's from then till now. It's

1596
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: at least from twenty to sixty bands. It's always worth

1597
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: that sixty five bands, sixty five? So how hot was

1598
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 2: he at that time?

1599
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: Oh? He killed the verse?

1600
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 4: But you know, but but like the Boston niggas, you

1601
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Let me ask you all that ship,

1602
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 4: your ship, all that product.

1603
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: Let me ask you.

1604
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: Something like the thing about it if a new artist

1605
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: came out Now I'm not talking about then. I mean

1606
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about now. I'm talking about then, like

1607
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 1: if a new what is that noise?

1608
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: What is that keep you hearing? What is somebody clicking something?

1609
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: Still?

1610
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: All right, tell them niggas shut the fuck up.

1611
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: Listen, Son is drinking, We drinking ball and then we

1612
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: go this and winning Wood.

1613
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: We going eating Koyo bar or Winwood tavern or when like, let's.

1614
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: Go with drinking.

1615
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: You can have a couple of fun. That's an average drink.

1616
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: Your fuck, he was as man, he's.

1617
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: Now listen. Yeah, you know you're my friend. We're clothes.

1618
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,520
Speaker 1: I come to your crib one day, living a diplomat,

1619
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: easiest creb I one hundred percent.

1620
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: Give me your rolls number, give me right now. I'm

1621
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 2: right in.

1622
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: We're hanging out with barbecuing. You're the first person to

1623
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: bring pork in the house.

1624
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I brought a big park shoulder.

1625
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that.

1626
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: Shoulder with Atlanta orange and you based it.

1627
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 6: I thought he was playing was bringing a pork shower.

1628
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 6: All I forgot he's running on like it was like,

1629
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 6: you know, he wanted me to keep in the living room.

1630
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 6: He didn't want to keep.

1631
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: He was like the smells the right.

1632
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 2: Let's get.

1633
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: What what happened that day? Like that's what.

1634
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: You're into the polk shoulder. No, I mean you know

1635
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, no, I'm sure we got some

1636
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: fellows in there fucking port.

1637
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 4: But you be on and off.

1638
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 2: You be on and off. I remember, like for you

1639
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 2: is in your blood? You put them for a year. Bro.

1640
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like you like, I ain't park no more.

1641
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't I in beef. Neither pok is the food

1642
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: of the gods.

1643
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: Talk about it, man, let me tell you about.

1644
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: Listen to this show. Take every piece of port and

1645
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: make that ship taste good man.

1646
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: This is how you know, like I know that rand

1647
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: Yaka and Dave Mays is the blackest Jewish people we know.

1648
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: Neither want of no celebrated passed over yesterday.

1649
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: That makes no noise, for that.

1650
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: Was the week before no we went to we went

1651
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: to that I did.

1652
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 4: He was he was Paris.

1653
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 2: Wait wait didn't we go to the Let me tell

1654
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: how power?

1655
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: Listen? Listen, let me tell how powerful Jewish people is

1656
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 1: we went to the W Hotel.

1657
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: Jewish people makes everybody man usually be around us. Mom,

1658
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: you got to keep a Jewish guy around. He's been around.

1659
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: That's a rule. Got keep it Jewish die right.

1660
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: But let me just tell you how crazy it was.

1661
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: We went to the W Hotel, were filming the food show.

1662
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: Went to the W Hotel for saying I can't film

1663
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: my neckls hurt. So we went to the W Hotel

1664
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: and fought lad to that man and we tried to

1665
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: use the bathroom and they was like, they rented it

1666
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: out for ten days for Passover, so nobody else could

1667
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: rent it out. I've never seen no other race do that.

1668
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: Espeke some noise for the Jewish people for keeping a.

1669
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: Jewish No, no, they said.

1670
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: Down the whole W hotel they all out, there was

1671
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: nothing but Kosha food being served.

1672
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: There was no alcohol for those days.

1673
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: Correct. We was like, yo, it's the bar open. It

1674
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: was like, no, it's Passover. Is anybody in the Jewish

1675
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: other than Day, Let's make a noise to day being

1676
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: the only Jewish guy.

1677
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: Come steps on, Dave.

1678
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you, Dave, because you know, is

1679
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: there anything you regret besides the Internet, because we got

1680
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: to that.

1681
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 2: Is there anything you ever regret that.

1682
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: You could do it?

1683
01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: We can't have no regrets, you know what I mean?

1684
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: No regrets.

1685
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: That's a real nigga ship that makes a noise to

1686
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: day being black.

1687
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: Right there?

1688
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 2: You got any regrets? Man, I can't think of anything.

1689
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1690
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 4: Probably probably you know, of course you want to be

1691
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 4: smart about it.

1692
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I probably you don't got

1693
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: to be smart, but we ate them in here.

1694
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 4: But but but still, but if you look back, But

1695
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 4: if you look back and you can say, yeah you

1696
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 4: could if you're not even it's about yourself. When you

1697
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 4: look at your kids and you look at their futures,

1698
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Then you start have to.

1699
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: Be talking about music and music musically yeah, music, but

1700
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: like you know, like in the business musically now you know.

1701
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 4: I mean to be honest, I think I never got

1702
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 4: a real shot because of all the controversy with my music.

1703
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 4: Like people don't know that I produce the intro on

1704
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 4: Naza Stealmatic album.

1705
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 2: Waitut what I'm saying?

1706
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1707
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm still man, it's the trained overlyon you know what

1708
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying on the Stacey lot is, sir, that's hangman three.

1709
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: You see that me two times? Like yeah, google that

1710
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 1: right now, Google that, man. Let's get us as brocks.

1711
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: You're not gonna eat no pork grounds on my show

1712
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: Birth version bough. Hold on, I'm going to cooke shoulder

1713
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: to my crew.

1714
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 4: I don't even know if those are your pork rinds.

1715
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: No, they ain't.

1716
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: Pull through ships.

1717
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 2: I'm not anybody. Because this is the mall, this is

1718
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 2: the ball.

1719
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: Then they offer those let me let me see if

1720
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 1: they official park ground just open up.

1721
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it's a ball, you know. Usually, So, boy,

1722
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 2: how did you produce that?

1723
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: How did who caught you?

1724
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: Steve stout?

1725
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: Again? Steve got you?

1726
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 2: Steve, You're getting a lot of love on my show.

1727
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 1: We've done a lot of ship with Steve and Steve, you.

1728
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 2: Know our relationships.

1729
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: So I'm allowing the love to be spread with all

1730
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: that tailing of American ship.

1731
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: Steve, what happened with the tan of America? I'm not

1732
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,799
Speaker 2: you're feeling that I've never seen anything.

1733
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 4: No America command It's only this ain't no tanning of America. Man,

1734
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 4: I don't believe in that, man. You know what I'm saying,

1735
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,520
Speaker 4: I'm sure Steve to Steven means that the white agencies

1736
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 4: and the white companies are now except accepting certain black

1737
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 4: you know, right, But that's bullship because they really ain't

1738
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, because they really ain't fucking

1739
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 4: with us. See it's us that that that got the juice.

1740
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: It's the middleman and the middleman above them well usually

1741
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 2: get them credit for it. That's just how it is.

1742
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 4: So that's what means the tanning of a memical.

1743
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see that ship. I have no idea what

1744
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: we're talking.

1745
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 2: He rose big of I guess big. But look he

1746
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 2: knows our relationship. But I'm not dissing them.

1747
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: So this is this is a wonderful thing, man, But

1748
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: you don't agree with that.

1749
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 4: Don't get what?

1750
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: What was just talking before that? Something before that? Steve

1751
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: st No, It's like.

1752
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 1: Of the song still Mada. So how did that?

1753
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 2: So?

1754
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: Who called you to?

1755
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 4: We probably did it through Steve, But but the s

1756
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 4: is that we also produced the one with you and

1757
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,879
Speaker 4: Prodigy that went gold. Right now, okay, double.

1758
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: Plast is a classic album. How did this call happen?

1759
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 2: What did they asked you to do an intro. We

1760
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: gave some beats and and l E. S Elliott and

1761
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 2: we gave a beat. Shout out to d J l

1762
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: E s l E S my Man w l E

1763
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 2: s l E S. We gave l E s the beats.

1764
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Lets hear him. That's the

1765
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 4: one they want.

1766
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 2: And wasn't the guy at that time, So it wasn't Steve.

1767
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 2: It was l E. S. My mistake.

1768
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 4: It was l E. S.

1769
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: And that's not the reason he got five mics.

1770
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 4: No, no, should have got five mics.

1771
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 2: That album was.

1772
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: Come on, it's still Mad'm saying, man, still Maden? You

1773
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: still here?

1774
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 2: That was a double plas God, damn mas you talking

1775
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 2: about illic?

1776
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: That's what that was the classic that was. That's still maddic.

1777
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, No, no crazy? Are you crazy? That's my

1778
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: first song article magazine I ever bought. I could never

1779
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: be more proud of to be from Queens at that

1780
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: very moment, because I remember seeing NS in Brooklyn Queen's

1781
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: Day back in the days we should do something called

1782
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Queen's Day in Flushing Metal Plark and I see

1783
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: I was booked to perform and he came out and

1784
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: did live at the Barbecue, and it came out with

1785
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: this dude with a you know, we call him Fishermen's

1786
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 1: and he killed it, you know what I mean. And

1787
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: then they was doing all this crazy. It's just so

1788
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: that's the you know, for me to see that as

1789
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: a chap go to jail. See this same kid got

1790
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: five mice. I knew what the mic system meant because

1791
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: I was an Outcast fan of Outcast was the only

1792
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 1: other people I've seen prior to that, I believe, because

1793
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: Southern Playlistic, Cadillact, whatever whatever that album is came out

1794
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: came out before ill Matic, correct, because I think that

1795
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: came out ninety one.

1796
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: He want to google that came first? Well, well whatever,

1797
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 2: who got five mikes?

1798
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: Maybe? Well whoever got five mikes before that? Then nas

1799
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: got five mice. I was in the jail walking through

1800
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: niggas at that time. In the jail I was in,

1801
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: it was either Buckshot Shorty or not. Obviously I was

1802
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: on NA side. I did like Buckshot Shorty, and he

1803
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: wound up his baby mother about black Moon.

1804
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 2: Excuse me.

1805
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: His big mother was actually from Left Rack. So I

1806
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: wound up being cool with him. But in the jail

1807
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: at that time, it was like you either Naso or

1808
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 1: Black Moon, and obviously I picked the nine side. And

1809
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: when that article came out, I just walking through the jail,

1810
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: nigga my check like it was the and kr Rest.

1811
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 2: We had Kara Rest on the show and Karen.

1812
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: Resh said that he basically said, well, if that didn't

1813
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: come out, you know, he said Queen's Bridge, which which

1814
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 1: he said Queen's Bridge would never revived. But he didn't

1815
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: understand that what he meant was queens might not never revived,

1816
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: So that that quo. Yeah, but but but but there

1817
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: was a lot of that album from that album restored

1818
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: the the pride, the I don't even know the other

1819
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: they restored like us to be like, you know, walk

1820
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: outside and go go eat in Brooklyn and go eating

1821
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: and whatever. But it all started from when people seeing

1822
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: that he got five mice, five mice, and then you do, guys,

1823
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: do a wonderful story of the producers. You remember that

1824
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: for all the producers it was involved like that was

1825
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: that was legendary. Like journalism isn't conducted like that no more.

1826
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 4: It's not that serious.

1827
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: Normal, it's not that serious because everything's everything fast, music faster.

1828
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 2: So what you think about that?

1829
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 4: I mean, mean, you know the way I look at

1830
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 4: it is.

1831
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you have it's it's just the

1832
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: sign of the times, you know, right, everything is fast.

1833
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean the good thing is that we lived in

1834
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 2: those times. So I just appreciate how I know those times.

1835
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 4: Just because it ain't here no more, don't mean you

1836
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 4: can't still celebrate it because you've been.

1837
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: We're celebrated right now. That's what we're doing on drinking,

1838
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, man, I'm gonna just tell y'all, man, hold on,

1839
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: this is the look at that. I just I really

1840
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: need to eat a pork ring on my shoulders. Why

1841
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: do you know this is Sonny? Join you gay, I'm

1842
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna give you five with the walk fan with the

1843
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: pork hands.

1844
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you with the body. You don't know

1845
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 2: why because park don't go step.

1846
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:49,799
Speaker 1: Because these motherfuckers is crunchy.

1847
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 4: Don't really know it's good.

1848
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: Just good, give me hot five with the work. You

1849
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: give me the work. I'm gonna say that I don't mind.

1850
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I don't mind.

1851
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 2: So he got a question.

1852
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 15: I feel like you was gonna go When we were

1853
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 15: talking about the eminem situation, like, I felt like you

1854
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 15: was gonna say something like you was going in the

1855
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 15: direction of saying that you didn't have no problem.

1856
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 2: It wasn't no problem with him because I really don't

1857
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: understand him.

1858
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 4: It was just a gun.

1859
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1860
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 4: MTV was just taking on the hip hop and I

1861
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 4: felt like, you know, big, this is where hip hop

1862
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 4: can finally, you know what I'm saying, start getting some money.

1863
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 4: You understand. Look when drugs and guns ravaged and I

1864
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 4: say this, the communities, hip hop was there to give

1865
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 4: niggas a job. You like, niggas was making money off

1866
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 4: of hip hop.

1867
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Man, that's a d M said DMX said rappers whacky.

1868
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: He sometimes he supports them because this rapper is given

1869
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: at least no.

1870
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: Six to eight people at job.

1871
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 4: My nigga, you come out of jail back then to

1872
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 4: get a job.

1873
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: Yo.

1874
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 2: They ain't like that no more, you know. So it's

1875
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 2: just a fact that I just felt like.

1876
01:28:54,920 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 4: They wanted to use a situation where the white audience

1877
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 4: had its own image, you know, to really be at

1878
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 4: a high level of hip hop with I was saying,

1879
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 4: the white people are already buying into the hoods in

1880
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 4: the black and Latino communities with hip hop. They don't need,

1881
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 4: we never need.

1882
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 2: Like Beastie Boys, was this shit. Nobody gave a fuck

1883
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 2: if there was white black birther lit brown.

1884
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 4: Third Days niggasre like you didn't see hip hop made

1885
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 4: it where you didn't see no color. When Eminem came,

1886
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 4: he's a white rapper. You know what I'm saying, They

1887
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 4: did that.

1888
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,959
Speaker 2: I did the white rapper show. I regreted it immediately,

1889
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: but you.

1890
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 4: See, but it has nothing to do it. It has

1891
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,799
Speaker 4: see because the effects of that. I knew the effects

1892
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 4: of that, of what it is. Now this kid's twit

1893
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 4: me now, like who's thirteen, fifty, twelve years old?

1894
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 2: All eighty three old?

1895
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Fake al Pacino? All you Eminem killed you.

1896
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm like little nigga. You don't even know eminem music,

1897
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 2: Like little Man, you don't even know his music.

1898
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 4: You're just taking on what you're seen on YouTube and

1899
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 4: automatically avoctating to that black against white ship. The issue

1900
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:12,480
Speaker 4: was I felt that that they were using his situation

1901
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 4: all right to separate hip hop to like you know

1902
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, to separate hip hop from the audience,

1903
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 4: you know, from from from white black audience. I mean,

1904
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 4: and then of course, you.

1905
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 2: Know, like Jimmy Ivan off with you five hundred thousand.

1906
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 4: That good now, Jimmy, Jimmy when when you know, we

1907
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 4: was when I was going on. We had met with

1908
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 4: Jimmy a couple of times, and you know what I'm saying,

1909
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 4: Jimmy didn't want no problems. You know, Jimmy and I

1910
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 4: had actually done deals with Jimmy. It was cool, man,

1911
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 4: It was what was?

1912
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 2: It was like I just.

1913
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: He was with me.

1914
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:49,759
Speaker 2: Was again.

1915
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 4: I was just this rebel that was like.

1916
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 2: Look, you know, because you gotta remember these kids had

1917
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: came up out of nowhere.

1918
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 4: These was his boys that came to the magazine with

1919
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 4: the tape. They had been trying to sell the tape.

1920
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh the gods from Detroit. Yeah, they had the tape.

1921
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1922
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 4: I was in Puerto Rico and Dave called me. It

1923
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 4: was like the dude are in the office, like on

1924
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 4: the next flight, and they had been trying to sell

1925
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 4: the tape over the year.

1926
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Now, these was his boy and do you believe that

1927
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: the story like that he said, he said it was

1928
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: only happened because he had a black girlfriend.

1929
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 2: It's not, it's not it's not for me that Yeah,

1930
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what I'm saying. Wait wait, wait,

1931
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 2: hold on? What was made up? Was made that story?

1932
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 2: That was that he had a black girlfriend. So you

1933
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 2: you did the research and you absolutely we did a

1934
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 2: lot of research when we did the whole story. Yeah,

1935
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 2: and that was folks. Absolutely, this is crazy. Nobody, I

1936
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 2: don't think nobody never knew that.

1937
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, man, but it's.

1938
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 2: Cool, right, it's cool. Man. Him is a great guy.

1939
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 2: I met him, I met him once. He's cool. That's

1940
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 2: what it was, you know, like when you really get

1941
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 2: down to it. We never met each other to make

1942
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 2: it personal, you know.

1943
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 4: So I mean, I mean, of course, when when when

1944
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 4: you're going back and forth on record, you're going to

1945
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 4: take shots at each other as everybody.

1946
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 5: He was used to separate the culture and to you know,

1947
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 5: take it, you know, with the the white audience always

1948
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 5: was the largest audience of hip hop going back to

1949
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 5: the eighties.

1950
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 2: Right see.

1951
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 5: You again, me, seventy eighty percent of the buyers of

1952
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 5: those albums Use albums was white people.

1953
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 2: They was there the whole time.

1954
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 5: But eminem was used as a way to take those

1955
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 5: who's white people and instead of making them instead of

1956
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 5: making them the followers of the culture and the followers

1957
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 5: of the streets. Okay, now those people are used to

1958
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 5: basically control and dictate the culture to where the streets

1959
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 5: don't have I don't say no more.

1960
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 2: That's pretty much what eminem time.

1961
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 4: When corporate radio comes in, now they can just cater

1962
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 4: to that, right and then separate the audience.

1963
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 2: But is there a problem with that? Of course there is,

1964
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 2: because that takes that takes money out of the hood.

1965
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:23,759
Speaker 2: But the same people, the same people who are buying

1966
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 2: from the hood and don't have to no more. But

1967
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 2: who is they when you say that they are using him?

1968
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: Is it the same people that DJ College is talking about.

1969
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 2: They don't want you to win, they don't want you

1970
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 2: to water your plants, they don't want you to smoke weed.

1971
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 2: Is it that the same days? I don't know. I

1972
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 2: just know that.

1973
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 4: Look the people, the movies and shakings of this industry

1974
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 4: right here that control the vehicles. You know what I'm saying,

1975
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 4: that the ones you know who who you know, big money,

1976
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 4: take no money, big bank, take low bank. You know

1977
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, monopoly and everything else. Whatever you're gonna think,

1978
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 4: whatever you thought about it. If you think about it.

1979
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. White folks always pot into

1980
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 4: hip hop.

1981
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna switch the subject a little bit because you're

1982
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,560
Speaker 1: a pillar of hip hop, both of you, guys, but

1983
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 1: both are legends. You guys are still talking to you,

1984
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: very dispectful. You leaving all right, very I.

1985
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 2: Got respectful friends. Apologize.

1986
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: But it's been a controversy going on right now right

1987
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 1: what African Mambada right? Cars one is on our show.

1988
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: I want to defend cars one because I got the

1989
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 1: talk rhymes. Man, get some more funk rhymes, brother. You know.

1990
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: So I had carras One on the show. I asked

1991
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 1: Kris One about the African man batta thing you car

1992
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: ress One.

1993
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to say he dodged the question.

1994
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: He just said that's my man. And once he said

1995
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,560
Speaker 1: that's my man, I kind of got uncomfortable and I

1996
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 1: switched the subject.

1997
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 2: Plus after that.

1998
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: Before that, I was giving kres mad my ties to

1999
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: get him drunk, similar to how.

2000
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm doing with you right now. You're drinking Hennessy and

2001
01:34:59,360 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 2: drinking park.

2002
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: It's the first person I showed to eat balk God damn,

2003
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: it makes no noise for you know, the person to

2004
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 1: bring pork showed it in my crib and that the

2005
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,480
Speaker 1: first person to eat walk on the Ring Channel podcast.

2006
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,919
Speaker 2: What do you think about the African man body situation?

2007
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 1: Both of you guys, I don't even know the situation?

2008
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, me neither do I don't. You don't?

2009
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: You don't? I mean, I don't know another situation? You

2010
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 1: finished or you're done? You start? Do you forget it?

2011
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: Come on tell me the situation.

2012
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, if you ain't knowing it, didn't you know?

2013
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not bringing them in this situation. Come on,

2014
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 2: help me out.

2015
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 1: You gotta do.

2016
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 2: You know, I don't even want not on that, not

2017
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 2: on that situation. Let's turn it up.

2018
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: So the unsigned Hype, the mic System, the Source Awards,

2019
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 1: the album.

2020
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 2: With the joint with you on Mario Winings. All of

2021
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 2: that you did loving hip.

2022
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: Hop, I mean rock.

2023
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 17: The party was was that we had a couple of

2024
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 17: we had a couple of shows rock and Park. I

2025
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 17: think what what was out when I was out when

2026
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 17: it's love and the hip hop thing? It wasn't presented

2027
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 17: to me.

2028
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

2029
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 4: It just I was giving Stevie was staying with me.

2030
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 4: I was riding to the set. We stayed together in

2031
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 4: Atlanta and riding to the set and just chilling. And

2032
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 4: then you know, they asked me to basically like you know,

2033
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 4: because I was talking to him already he has Michael,

2034
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 4: and I was just like, yo, you know, you know,

2035
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 4: you should just try to be monogamous and ship. It

2036
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 4: was like one woman, right, Yeah, And then there was

2037
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 4: like when you said that on camera and I was like, yeah,

2038
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 4: I said it on camera. They micd me up, and

2039
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 4: that was the first time I was on him. I

2040
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 4: did that drive and seek with him because you know

2041
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I was never casting for it then.

2042
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 1: So so what happened?

2043
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 2: Why why you're not on Live of Hip Hop No More?

2044
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 2: What is that?

2045
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean?

2046
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 4: It was a situation that happened, you know at the reunion,

2047
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 4: you know, you know where you know.

2048
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 1: The snuff Jos Let's just come out.

2049
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:07,679
Speaker 2: She came.

2050
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: Is that what happened? A little bit trying to snuff

2051
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: your wife. Listen, every man in every world, nigga in

2052
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: the world, will do the same thing.

2053
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 2: Of course, you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna protect mine.

2054
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 1: Right, It's not like you're a woman's not like that

2055
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. No, no, no, she's gonna

2056
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, choking.

2057
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 4: Only get.

2058
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 1: Right, right, So why did they There's so many people

2059
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: who did so much worse things and loving hip hop?

2060
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 2: Why do you think you're being like listen, listen, Look,

2061
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 2: Love and hip hop was a great situation for me,

2062
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, it was.

2063
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 4: It was something that I didn't know I was gonna

2064
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 4: be a part of. You know, I did a bunch

2065
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 4: of seasons. A lot happened to me on there. I

2066
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 4: got shot, you know, Oh yeah, yeah, you know that's

2067
01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:00,040
Speaker 4: crazy hope my mom's past blessed. Yeah, yeah, that's you

2068
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 4: know what I'm say. Yeah, So it's like a lot

2069
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 4: happened in those years just in my life. So it was,

2070
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 4: you know, love and hip hop was deep. You know,

2071
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 4: Love and hip hop was you know, shout out to

2072
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 4: love and hip hop.

2073
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 3: Man, I got you know what I mean, Like you

2074
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 3: know what I mean like a mota recently talking man.

2075
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 3: Stephen was just back in the studio.

2076
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 2: You and Stevie. Amazing crazy thing is you.

2077
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: Know how your boy called you and your boy say,

2078
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: you know, he's like I always I know you guys

2079
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 1: are brothers.

2080
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: Like y'all gonna.

2081
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: I know it's different, but you know what I'm saying, Like,

2082
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:37,719
Speaker 1: I know, you guys got.

2083
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 2: A lot of love for each other. You know what

2084
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

2085
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 1: Do you think it was love and hip hop who

2086
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: separated y'all? Or you think yeah, I mean you know

2087
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: what I mean?

2088
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 4: No, no, no, never the money because me and Sleeves,

2089
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 4: it ain't like that with us. It was definitely a

2090
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 4: situation with with with the you know, he was under

2091
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 4: precious his situation. I was underpressious my situation. Things happened,

2092
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 4: you know, things happened. Things happen in relationships and family,

2093
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, I don't think. You know,

2094
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I just don't think, like I

2095
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 4: don't think. You know, when you do reality TV, man,

2096
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 4: you can like really try to hold it against somebody,

2097
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 4: because man, people do things just for the for these

2098
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 4: for these things, for the cameras, and it's like, you know,

2099
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 4: you got to know that. You know, if the cameras

2100
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 4: wasn't there, it wouldn't be like that. There's no excuse

2101
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 4: for it. You know what I'm saying.

2102
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,640
Speaker 2: How did you guys work it out? It's just man,

2103
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 2: it's just gonna take time. Man. You know what I'm saying.

2104
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 4: It wasn't you know what I mean?

2105
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 2: Time?

2106
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 4: Hell was all you know what I'm saying. I mean

2107
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 4: both of us understood what happened, and you know, like

2108
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 4: where where we stood with each other, like we don't.

2109
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 4: That was unfortunate what took place there, and it was

2110
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 4: unfortunate it took place on camera and ship.

2111
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 2: Like when you ask me if I regret things, I

2112
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: regret that.

2113
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that makes a noise for that.

2114
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 4: Because because another thing is like I didn't bring out

2115
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 4: there on Love and Pop for none of that ship

2116
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 4: to be fighting and all that. Like I'm not with

2117
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 4: none of that, to be honest, I'm really not with

2118
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 4: that because you know, we fight enough off camera to

2119
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,759
Speaker 4: fight our whole lives. Why are we gonna go on camera?

2120
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Not you know, so I

2121
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 4: don't you know what I'm saying. It just it just

2122
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 4: it just it was unfortunate, man, it was something that happened.

2123
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:16,600
Speaker 1: You know.

2124
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 2: I guys had the seven five seven group, right, yeah,

2125
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: seven fifty seven. Yeah, the rest of the peace.

2126
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: Big cat to.

2127
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 2: Man, your cat's get big Cap. We love you, my brother, Yeah.

2128
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 4: Cap had hosted the seven fifty seven take us on

2129
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 4: that pif you go that PIF downloaded?

2130
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow wow. So that he passed away and then

2131
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 1: you guys come back together.

2132
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 2: That's probably this was crazy about it because we wasn't together.

2133
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:45,560
Speaker 5: He was.

2134
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, you should let me just put

2135
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 4: the music out, and he said yo. I ran to

2136
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 4: Stevie and he said, he said that's cool, and I

2137
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 4: was like, why did you say it's call? I was like,

2138
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 4: put it out, that's dope. Mind you and Steve almoston

2139
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 4: talking two years.

2140
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: You know, and you guys were not only like the

2141
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: first people with the magazine that led the culture, not

2142
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: the first people to do in compilations of the coach here.

2143
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: I remember you guys the first people to own studios.

2144
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 1: I remember you own a studio in Manhattan. Was that

2145
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 1: called the Sauce Lab? Man? You own a big studio

2146
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: in man We spent so much. I remember you asked

2147
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 1: me to do a verse or something or come meet you,

2148
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: and I came there.

2149
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 2: You know, they actually called me. I walked through. You

2150
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 2: guys had like they had to be like five million

2151
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 2: dollars studio. Yeah, walked in. You had blue carp I

2152
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 2: walked through and I was like, mad.

2153
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,799
Speaker 1: We rolled up. I was like, Yo're gonna go outside

2154
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: and smoke. He was like I spoke for what spoken had.

2155
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 1: Like you guys had all type of endeavors. Man, what's

2156
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: the next endeavor that you guys, Dave, Mads and Benzino.

2157
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 2: Is gonna do?

2158
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 4: You really want to know?

2159
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 2: I really want to know.

2160
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 1: Man.

2161
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 2: In fact, Joe named this album on our podcast Give

2162
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 2: Us Something Big. Come on, this's go Zeno.

2163
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 1: Crap traps everywhere, but we haven't talked about that.

2164
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 4: There no crab traps in every city and my sauce

2165
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 4: in every supermarket.

2166
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:05,560
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

2167
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 9: Let's make a noise. It's to sound bad. I don't

2168
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 9: know when I'm mad. Man, it's not wonder women. I

2169
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 9: mean say so everybody. It doesn't make it bad, it doesn't.

2170
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: Make it better.

2171
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 2: So how did you come up with? Like me?

2172
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean for the lameness, that's what you say, right, laymen,

2173
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: for the laymen, like I knew like one time Xeno

2174
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 1: came to the crib. You know what I'm saying, it

2175
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: was something going on with it. Oh that's just straight paple.

2176
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, hold on, come on, man, this this

2177
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: ain't for straight paple drinks. Because Rock, I'm gonna hit

2178
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: this armadell. Then hold on, let me finish myself.

2179
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 2: Rock.

2180
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 1: So I knew you had love for cooking, right, but

2181
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:52,879
Speaker 1: most people got love for basketball.

2182
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they're gonna play in the NBA. What made

2183
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 2: you take this risk with this restaurant.

2184
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 4: I mean it was like a low risk. You know,

2185
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 4: crabs is low wrist. I was only gonna do crabs,

2186
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:07,680
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I mean it

2187
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 4: was like a little small place I had been. Dave

2188
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 4: turned me onto the little Korean spot over there, Big Joy.

2189
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 4: It was in the same strip models Big Joy, Marietta.

2190
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 4: It was already kind of built out as a restaurant,

2191
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 4: a little small spot like fifteen and sixty hundre square feet.

2192
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 4: So I said, man, it's perfect litt crab spot. But

2193
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 4: the whole thing was I had to develop these sauces

2194
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 4: for it. I just wasn't gonna do like a crab

2195
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,640
Speaker 4: Old Bay season. And you know what I'm saying, I

2196
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 4: want to do. I want to take it further.

2197
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 2: So it was like I.

2198
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 4: Developed these sauces. The first one was like the Zeno sauce.

2199
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 2: Because I heard you win somewhere like La yeah, La.

2200
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 4: It was like these Koreans like that's like they do

2201
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 4: crabs differently, where like they incorporate sauces with it. So

2202
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 4: I said, well, if I put my own twists on

2203
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 4: the sauces, see what happens. Took me about four months

2204
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 4: to really like what Nelson was saying.

2205
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 1: Did you think he was crazy when he wanted to

2206
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 1: go in the crabb business. You guys are in the compilation.

2207
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: You guys are in the saucer Warans. You guys are

2208
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: into music. You guys are into and now you want

2209
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 1: to sell food, like did you?

2210
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he always wanted to do something like this,

2211
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 2: This is not he was always in I.

2212
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Had something on Miami Beach. You know what I'm saying.

2213
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: I remember that too.

2214
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 2: I mean he was he was certain about it.

2215
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 1: In your club, remember no, No, I got Pepper Space.

2216
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: This is a great. It's like it's like when.

2217
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 2: Rose just got hot. I walked in the club.

2218
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: This is what was club? You know?

2219
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, clubs? You know your job was there? Jou invites me.

2220
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 1: I go in there, I going there. All the six

2221
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: bottles of rolls, I remember they had to be at

2222
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: least twelve hundred the peaks. But I'm like, these niggas

2223
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 1: is doing this with like your birthday or job row birthday.

2224
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't remember it was birthday, job birthday. So I'm like,

2225
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 1: all right, cool, I'm not asking for bottles. They got

2226
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: us all in go to six bottles of bros just

2227
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: came out and then and then a fight broke out

2228
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: and they pepper sprayed the whole club. I sat there, prepared,

2229
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: let's go. I said, they got this game, that nigga

2230
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: too much of money, My nigga, I'm drinking my bottles.

2231
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 1: I was like, all my good, and he was like,

2232
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: you're good.

2233
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 2: The whole club that I said, fuck, like.

2234
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 1: You know how crazy it is to buy bottles to

2235
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 1: sit down and everybody else leave and you just really

2236
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 1: want to treat you the ship.

2237
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 2: Fuck that.

2238
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't even give up. I'm saying, right here, give

2239
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: me one way, just fix, let me go.

2240
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 2: And that was crazy.

2241
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 1: I got prepersuaded the first time I got Perpsation Club

2242
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: High five.

2243
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 2: That was club that was a no bass club, that

2244
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 2: was a no best club. What is what is there now?

2245
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: It was it was a it was American Paddle Now.

2246
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 2: That was the second the second floor joint. We was

2247
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: on the second floor, that's the first flost was on

2248
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 2: the second floor.

2249
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 1: So I just want to let y'all know, like before

2250
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 1: we get up out of here, Man, is there anything

2251
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 1: y'all want to get off y'all chests?

2252
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 2: If anything y'all want to you know, get.

2253
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: To the bottom line, you know, because I know I've

2254
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 1: been messing with you.

2255
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just messing with you all. These was jokes.

2256
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,759
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I just know I'm just I definitely

2257
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 4: meant I've definitely been down to come do this.

2258
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Brother, I appreciate that. I

2259
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 1: want that.

2260
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Man, you guys been in my

2261
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 2: corner forever. That's something I gotta say.

2262
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, you guys been in my corner before we

2263
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: even mess messed with each other. But we wound up

2264
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: living in the same building, and it was something that

2265
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: it was. It was a peer of love, you know

2266
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, it's a peer of love. It

2267
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 1: wasn't nothing like no fake like like I need to

2268
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: get y'all like we're gonna handle each other. We're gonna

2269
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 1: you know.

2270
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 2: It was again, that's what that's what.

2271
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: That's what the reality show people use that word.

2272
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 2: It's all right, you know what I'm saying.

2273
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 15: So, but one thing, one thing I definitely need to

2274
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 15: know because only y'all remember when we met that I

2275
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 15: wanted the documentary with y'all.

2276
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I heard about this. I heard about this,

2277
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 2: and you know.

2278
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad we finally here doing this.

2279
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,759
Speaker 15: But this is a good fun When is real serious

2280
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:05,600
Speaker 15: documentary of the legacy of the source, because.

2281
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 1: That needs to happen now, can't you do that?

2282
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 2: Or you would have to clear that.

2283
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 4: They would have to be a joint clearance because they

2284
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 4: own the name now, so if there was to be

2285
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 4: like a thing, they would have to clear the name.

2286
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 4: Ro So we'd have to call it the force, right

2287
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 4: or the creators of the source that you want?

2288
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:24,640
Speaker 2: I mean, but a lot of things.

2289
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 4: Lonzel would have a problem with that, you know what

2290
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

2291
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 16: I mean, how about you call it the history of

2292
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 16: the I think the culture needs there's always use the

2293
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 16: SOURCEDE has to be involved, hopefully.

2294
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 2: You know, there's no problem with that, Mondelle, you know

2295
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:40,799
Speaker 2: it makes sense to do it. Chronicle.

2296
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 4: We ain't got no beef for nobody but at the

2297
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,560
Speaker 4: end of the day, the history is what it is.

2298
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna have their opinions. But the way I look

2299
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 4: at it's over now. You people gotta put that ship

2300
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 4: behind and move forward.

2301
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Now.

2302
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 2: Should there be a source magazine story? Of course, of course,

2303
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

2304
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Of course it should be because I mean, and I'm

2305
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 1: not trying to start any controversy or things. Do you

2306
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 1: ever just look at the sauce now and be like, damn,

2307
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 1: I'm upset how they took.

2308
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 4: It like and not No, not only because of of

2309
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 4: of how every other magazine like and the sauce really

2310
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 4: is the your sales going, vibees going, I mean, like

2311
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 4: Russell Simmons.

2312
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons is one of my icons, is one of

2313
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 1: my idols. But when it didn't come on, relieve make

2314
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: the sauce cover. Yeah, I think she did, Like that's

2315
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 1: not where.

2316
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:35,639
Speaker 2: Y'all was on it. I think she did.

2317
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: She did.

2318
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 4: She was one of the first ones after we got yeah, yeah,

2319
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:45,600
Speaker 4: after she did Yeah, after y'all because David we was

2320
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 4: doing with Mary sitting on the ice. Yeah.

2321
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 1: Iconic joints like Biggie over the building is iconic.

2322
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:56,560
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying with the gun to

2323
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 2: the joke I was doing man with the ship in

2324
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 2: his nose, Like you know what I'm saying.

2325
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 1: So you see like you see like different putting like

2326
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 1: sports figures or like people who are models on the cover,

2327
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:08,480
Speaker 1: Like are you disappointed?

2328
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 2: Let none of dis Yeah.

2329
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like the original story, like when

2330
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 1: you look at it now, like can you walk through

2331
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 1: an airport? Do you tell me?

2332
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 2: Man, I don't look at it just doesn't. It's a different.

2333
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: Time, you know, Okay, it ain't really.

2334
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 4: I don't look at no magazines honestly, Like hip Hop

2335
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 4: Weekly fits fits is the format of today, but any

2336
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 4: other magazine like that, it's just a different time.

2337
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 1: Now.

2338
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 4: Everything is internet phone, right, you know what I'm saying.

2339
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 4: Everything seems to be internet and phone. Hip Hop Weekly

2340
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 4: works because of the format of how last weekly you

2341
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 4: know of like US weeklies and everything. But you know,

2342
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 4: I just don't look at it like that though more.

2343
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 4: I mean, even if even if it was, I just don't.

2344
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:50,919
Speaker 4: It's not in a time where it could shine anyways

2345
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 4: the sauce, you know.

2346
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: What I mean, It just don't So I know, I

2347
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 1: kind of asked you this in a different way to

2348
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 1: what's the new move man?

2349
01:49:57,680 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 2: Are you gonna stick with reality?

2350
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 1: Are you us can continue with the with the magazine

2351
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 1: or you guys gonna do some phenomenal thing to change

2352
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 1: the culture again. It's been You're about to celebrate thirty

2353
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 1: years and well, look we need another.

2354
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 4: Week week ago. I'm saying, hip hop weekly TV, hip

2355
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 4: Hop weekly TV. Definitely me and ot is about to

2356
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 4: do your own album show that week TV. It's the

2357
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 4: first time you heard about that. I can't can't say

2358
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 4: that work. I can't, but I can tell you that

2359
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 4: makes a noise but no no, but I can tell

2360
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 4: no no, but we still can make noise to we TV.

2361
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 2: We were spread in the room, but we spreading the room.

2362
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 2: But he don't got his own TV.

2363
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 4: I'm still I'm still spreading, still working. I'm still working

2364
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 4: with Carlos King. You know next fifteen, season two on

2365
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 4: TV one. You know what I'm saying, looking like season two? Yeah,

2366
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:50,920
Speaker 4: season one success and you know we're just crab trap man.

2367
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying that.

2368
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: Did you ever think you'll be doing reality went back

2369
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 1: from back then?

2370
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 3: No?

2371
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 4: Hell no, hell yeah no.

2372
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 2: If you if you were still after saw us being

2373
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 2: on top, you probably be like reality is.

2374
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 4: Now reality because you see, reality TV is all what

2375
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 4: you make it.

2376
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 1: You know, if you go, if you make yourself a fool,

2377
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 1: you will You're gonna be You're gonna be looked on

2378
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:13,600
Speaker 1: as a fool I mean with yourself, you know what

2379
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

2380
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, like you, as

2381
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 4: long as you are who you are, and if you

2382
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 4: don't mind who you are and and and comfortable with

2383
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 4: who you are, then you could do reality TV.

2384
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 2: Well let's make a noise for you know, being political.

2385
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 2: You're like.

2386
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,799
Speaker 1: Dave, You've been in the brains behind the operation for effort.

2387
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 2: No, you like being you like you like you know

2388
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 2: what I mean by that. It's like you're you know,

2389
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 2: you know, come on.

2390
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:42,879
Speaker 1: For alcohol.

2391
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 2: This nigga's bored out all the chaser. He's a foul guy.

2392
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 2: He's my brother brought. He's also brought shower.

2393
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 1: But so uh, I don't want to say I people

2394
01:51:56,360 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 1: do something over because that's kind of corny. But what

2395
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 1: you think this next big endeavor that you want to

2396
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 1: do yourself now?

2397
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, like not what I was, you know,

2398
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 2: I mean this the next big idea for you?

2399
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 1: What you think is that because you was the guy

2400
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 1: who invested in the internet and then people didn't believe

2401
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 1: who had didn't work at that time. But guess what,

2402
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 1: the Internet's working now, So that makes you nosra domis

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Speaker 1: what is your next idea?

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01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:23,759
Speaker 2: Again?

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01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 5: I think it's still that there's not a voice for

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01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 5: the culture that south there. And the culture is powerful

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01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,560
Speaker 5: because you know, you have what they call the millennials,

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01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 5: which is.

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Speaker 2: The millennials that largest make it happen, right, Well.

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Speaker 5: That's that's the demographic that all corporations are going to

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01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 5: be targeting for the next twenty or thirty years. And

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Speaker 5: there's ninety five million of them. There was seventy eight

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01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 5: million baby boomers. You heard of the baby boomers. I

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01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 5: never heard of where they were. They were the biggest

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01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 5: largest previous generation in Americans.

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Speaker 1: The Baby Boomans, yes, yes, and the millennia anyway, that's

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01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 1: that's really where to be a voice for them? I

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01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 1: think I think dj Ifing has filled that voice for

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01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 1: the millenniums.

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01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 2: Not on y'all level, we can never.

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Speaker 1: But the thing about it is a lot of people,

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01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people they big of our podcast because

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01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 1: these ninety stories and there's ninety babies that listen to it.

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01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 2: But I can honestly say that I could never.

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01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 1: Make the impact of the sources ever made. I could

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01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: never make a system like I've tried to. You know,

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01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 1: this drinking competition that we just had Geno do we

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01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 1: try to do that with all guests. It's not like

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01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: the five mics. It's nothing I'm trying to get.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Dave.

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01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: He's a positive guy, man, five baby, he's my friend. Man,

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01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 1: But this just makes a noise for motherfucker the original song.

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01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 1: This makes a noise for Zino drinking all the tracer.

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01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:59,560
Speaker 1: So now we gotta drink straight. So, man, guys, I

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01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,640
Speaker 1: want to can't thank you enough. Man. I know you

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01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 1: guys didn't have to do that. I know you guys

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01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 1: didn't have to fly in from LA. I know you

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01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,679
Speaker 1: guys didn't have to stop for whatever you guys are doing.

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01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it because people that are listeners, they

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01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 1: love these nineties stories, these eighty stories, these two thousand stories,

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01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 1: these twenty ten stories, and this hip hop stories, and

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01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 1: that's what we cater to. We're not trying to get

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01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: the guy who's hot. We're not trying to get the

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01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,560
Speaker 1: guy who's on his press run. We're not trying to

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01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 1: get the guy who just happened to be around. We're

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01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: trying to get legends who have real stories. And you

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01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 1: guys came, you participated. You never stopped us one second.

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01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 1: It's you know, sweated for a minute, he jumped over

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01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 1: the camera for a minute that he didn't stop. He

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01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 1: came in.

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01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 2: There's been a good sport and that's what this is

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01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 2: all about.

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01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 1: This is not about This is about us getting together,

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01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 1: getting drunk and telling stories. And you guys did what

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01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 1: you had to do. And I can't thank you a man,

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01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 1: and yeh yeah, yeah you got to it. Is there

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01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: anything else any of you want to say? I was like, man, man,

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01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 1: it was a pleasure, pleasure here and it's going to

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01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:02,680
Speaker 1: be a part two and it's got to be a

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01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: walking yes, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But but also let me thank you for.

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01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: Uh uh you know you're the first guy who's on

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01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: my food and on the podcast. You know what I'm saying.

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01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: Gunplay was too I thought about it. Yeah, you know

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01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you're doing that live being up

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01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 1: the gunplay. But I can't thank you guys enough. Man

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01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 1: for let me into your life. You know, I do

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01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 1: it with League. We play around with the stories, and

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01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 1: you guys are a great sport man, and what you

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01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 1: guys can contribute it to hip hop could never be replicated.

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01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 1: If just in case you guys didn't know, the things

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01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 1: that y'all gave to hip hop, things that you gave

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01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 1: to me personally is personally appreciated. I'm glad that I

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01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: can later on in life call you guys my friends

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01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 1: because you gave me love before you even knew me.

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01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that after we guys we knew each other,

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01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 1: we continue our relationship.

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01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,959
Speaker 2: And I appreciate you guys being a part of this podcast.

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01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 2: My brother, you know what I'm saying. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Man, the original Sauce, the dudest, Just focusing.

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Speaker 2: On me for a second.

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Speaker 1: This is the dudes that made something that people call

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Speaker 1: a hip hop bible. I don't care what you doing

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01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 1: hip hop. I don't give a fuck what you try

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01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 1: to replicate. I don't give a fuck what you try

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01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: to make. There's nothing that people are going to call

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01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 1: it the hip hop bible, my motherfucker. And listen, this

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01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 1: is what I think.

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01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 2: This is what I think.

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01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 1: In a hundred years, the original sauce magazines will be

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01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 1: read like a hip hop bible. That's what I think.

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01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 1: God bless you, motherfucker saving good night, God bless you motherfuckers.

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01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 1: We got some some touchy ship and they stood here.

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01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: They took the heat. It's going down Drink Chance Podcast.

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01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 1: Make the fuck all just go over there.

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01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 2: Let's go over there.

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Speaker 15: executive producers n O r E and dj e FN.

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