WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Cassie Compton

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans talkably Havel Catherine looking to the disappearance

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<v Speaker 1>of Patsy Thompson in the city of Stuttgard, Arkansas, about

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago. They could.

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<v Speaker 2>On the evening of Sunday, September fourteenth, twenty fourteen, fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old Cassie K Compton went out for a pack

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<v Speaker 2>of cigarettes down the road from her house in Stuttgart,

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas and never came home. At least that's the official story.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of those Arkansas cold cases that have

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<v Speaker 2>become legendary, one of those stories that have been covered

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<v Speaker 2>tons of times, and yet almost ten years later, we

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<v Speaker 2>have no arrests and no answers. We do know a

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<v Speaker 2>few things for sure. Cassie had been spending the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>with a male friend of hers named Hunter. They went

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<v Speaker 2>with his family to an auto demolition Derby and de Witt,

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<v Speaker 2>which is about forty miles away. They had a great

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<v Speaker 2>time hanging out, and then Cassie went back to Hunter's

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<v Speaker 2>house and slept up there on Saturday night. Tracy Snyder,

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter's mother, has said that this was not out of

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<v Speaker 2>the ordinary. In fact, Cassie spent a lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>at their house because Tracy said things were chaotic at

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie's house. Tracy said that her house had become a

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<v Speaker 2>sort of refuge for Cassie. Hunter drove Cassie home on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday evening. Shortly after that, Cassie texted Hunter to say

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<v Speaker 2>she was going out to get some cigarettes. Then Cassie,

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<v Speaker 2>who was described in her missing posters as petite, around

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<v Speaker 2>five foot three, weighing around one hundred pounds, with blue

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<v Speaker 2>eyes and blonde hair, apparently walked down the road and

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<v Speaker 2>never came back. I have found a lot of new

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<v Speaker 2>information about a murder for higher plot, a man posing

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<v Speaker 2>as a woman, sex crimes, and cover ups that made

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<v Speaker 2>me see the police's main person of interest in a

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<v Speaker 2>whole new light. What really happened to Cassie Compton and

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<v Speaker 2>what was she running from at home?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Townsend.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a case you'd like me and my

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<v Speaker 2>team to look into, you can reach out to us

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<v Speaker 2>at our Helen Gone Murder line at six seven eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven four four six one four or five. That's six

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<v Speaker 2>seven eight seven four four six one four or five.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Helen Gone Murder Line. So we need to

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<v Speaker 2>take a step back to understand what was going on

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<v Speaker 2>in Cassie Compton's life.

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie K.

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<v Speaker 2>Compton was born in Oklahoma. After her mother, Judy Compton Kimsey,

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<v Speaker 2>was divorced from Cassie's father, Roy in two thousand, Cassie

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<v Speaker 2>and her mother moved from Oklahoma back to Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's no way to sugarcoat this.

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<v Speaker 2>Both Cassie's mother, Judy and her father, Roy were registered

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<v Speaker 2>sex offenders, though Judy's name had been removed from that

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<v Speaker 2>list after fifteen years of good behavior. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get more into those charges later, but for now, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>say that Roy was convicted of inappropriate sexual contact with

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<v Speaker 2>a miner, ludacts with a child, and indecent proposals to

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<v Speaker 2>a miner back in Oklahoma. According to multiple sources, that

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<v Speaker 2>miner was Judy's older daughter from a previous marriage, so

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<v Speaker 2>his own stepdaughter. Roy was sentenced to twenty three years

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<v Speaker 2>in prison for that abuse. In Stuttgart, Cassie was homeschooled

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<v Speaker 2>and working to get her ged. Her friend said she

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<v Speaker 2>was kind and funny, except when she was troubled, which

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<v Speaker 2>had become a little more frequent in the time period

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<v Speaker 2>before she disappeared. Her friend said when she was troubled

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<v Speaker 2>she could get a little quiet. There was someone else

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<v Speaker 2>in the home, Judy's fiance, twenty four year old Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>Lee Rhodes. Now a lot of people pointed out that

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<v Speaker 2>the age difference between Brandon and Cassie was actually less

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<v Speaker 2>than it was between Brandon and Judy, who was forty two.

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<v Speaker 2>As we said, that weekend, Cassie had been spending time

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<v Speaker 2>with Hunter Snyder and his family. On Saturday, September thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter's mom, Tracy, said her son had picked Cassie up

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<v Speaker 2>at her house at around one pm.

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<v Speaker 1>That night.

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<v Speaker 2>They all went out to the Auto Derby. They had fun,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Cassie spent the night at the Snyder house.

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<v Speaker 2>The next day, September fourteenth, Cassie hung out at Hunter's.

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<v Speaker 2>They had brunch with his family, then later Hunter drove

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie home. Hunter and Cassie left his house at around

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<v Speaker 2>six oh five pm. Her house was around a fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty minute drive away, so that would put them

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<v Speaker 2>there at Cassie's house between six twenty and six twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five pm. According to Tracy, when Hunter and Cassie pulled

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<v Speaker 2>up to the house and Cassie got out of the car,

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter said that he saw Brandon Rhodes outside, but he

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<v Speaker 2>said he did not see Brandon speak to Cassie. The

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<v Speaker 2>last thing he saw was Cassie walking up the driveway

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<v Speaker 2>straight into the house. Hunter got home at around six

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<v Speaker 2>forty five pm. According to his mom, Cassie sent a

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<v Speaker 2>text to Hunter at around seven or seven fifteen pm,

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<v Speaker 2>saying she was going out to get a pack of cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the last text that was ever sent from

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie's phone. Judy, who was on disability and sometimes took

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<v Speaker 2>pain medications, later said when Cassie came home, she was

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<v Speaker 2>sick in her bedroom, which was in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>the house. She said she heard Cassie moving around and

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<v Speaker 2>said hey, baby girl to Cassie through the door, but

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<v Speaker 2>Judy said she didn't actually ever see Cassie. Brandon told

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<v Speaker 2>police Cassie was only at the house for about five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes before going out again. When she walked out the door,

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie apparently had her black LG smartphone with her, but

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<v Speaker 2>no charger for the phone. Hunter's mom, Tracy, said she

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<v Speaker 2>got three calls from Brandon that night. On the first call,

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<v Speaker 2>at nine to fourteen pm, Tracy said, Brandon asked if

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie was still there, I guess, meaning still with them. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is weird because Hunter said clearly Brandon saw Cassie

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<v Speaker 2>when they pulled up to that house. Also, both Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>and Judy told investigators that they had seen or at

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<v Speaker 2>least heard Cassie at home. Hunter lived kind of far out,

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<v Speaker 2>it was not walkable, So why would Brandon be asking

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<v Speaker 2>if she was still with them when he knew Cassie

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<v Speaker 2>had been dropped off. Tracy said she told Brandon to

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<v Speaker 2>call the police, and after he'd called back a couple times,

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon told her that he had done that. Now, Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>did not have her driver's license, so he had a

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<v Speaker 2>bike that he would ride around everywhere. He told Tracy

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<v Speaker 2>that he'd ridden his bike to the police station to

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<v Speaker 2>report Cassie missing, but he said police told him he

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<v Speaker 2>had to wait seventy two hours. Tracy called the police

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<v Speaker 2>the next morning. She said that she talked to a

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<v Speaker 2>detective and they told her that was not true. They

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<v Speaker 2>said no one had made a police report the night before.

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<v Speaker 2>On that next morning, which would be Monday, September fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>Judy saw that Cassie was not in her bedroom. She

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<v Speaker 2>started texting and calling Cassie, but got no response and

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<v Speaker 2>the calls went straight to voicemail. Judy called Cassie's friends,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one had seen her, so Judy called the police. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>through a foyer request, the Stuttgart Police did release the

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<v Speaker 2>original incident report. Judy's name is on it, so it

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<v Speaker 2>can be confirmed. Judy reported Cassie missing on Monday, September

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<v Speaker 2>fifteenth at nine fifty two am. Brandon's name was not

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<v Speaker 2>on that report. To that report, Judy told police that

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie had a possible mental disorder and may have been bipolar.

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<v Speaker 2>She said Cassie had been prescribed and a deepressants in

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<v Speaker 2>the past, but she said she would flush them because

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't like taking them. Judy told police if Cassie's

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<v Speaker 2>mood swings got bad, that Cassie would sometimes go out

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<v Speaker 2>for a walk. In that report, Judy said that she

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<v Speaker 2>heard Cassie come in and heard her change and leave

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<v Speaker 2>from the back bedroom. Judy also gave a description of

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<v Speaker 2>what Cassie was wearing. She said she had on a

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<v Speaker 2>blue spaghetti strap top, black and white plaid shorts, blue

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<v Speaker 2>and gray cowboy boots with a two to three inch heel,

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<v Speaker 2>but later Judy clarified. She said she based that on

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<v Speaker 2>the clothes that were missing out of Cassie's closet, because again,

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<v Speaker 2>she was in the bedroom the whole time. She never

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<v Speaker 2>physically saw her daughter, and it didn't take police long

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<v Speaker 2>to see that Brandon and Judy's stories had a few discrepancies.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon and Judy first told investigators that Brandon was cooking

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<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen when Cassie came home. He said he'd

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<v Speaker 2>been cooking breakfast for dinner. He said he saw Cassie briefly,

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<v Speaker 2>but that Judy did not see her at all. Later,

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<v Speaker 2>another story came out. Judy told Tina Stores, a private

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<v Speaker 2>investigator who looked into the case, and some other people,

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<v Speaker 2>that Brandon went out for cigarettes on Sunday night also,

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<v Speaker 2>and that Brandon was gone for quite some time, and

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<v Speaker 2>that when he did come back, he spent a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>like an hour in the bathroom vomiting. Remember, Brandon did

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<v Speaker 2>not have a driver's license, but he had been known

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<v Speaker 2>to take Judy's.

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<v Speaker 1>Car in the past, especially if she was sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>And him going for cigarettes in Judy's car at around

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<v Speaker 2>the same time Cassie said she was going out for

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<v Speaker 2>cigarettes seems like a big coincidence. It seems reasonable to

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<v Speaker 2>wonder could they have gone together or could Cassie have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten into the car with him. Also, Brandon is saying

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<v Speaker 2>that he somehow had time to cook dinner, get in

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<v Speaker 2>his car, buy cigarettes, then then ride his bike to

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<v Speaker 2>the police station to report someone missing, and have a

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<v Speaker 2>vomiting spell, all in the two hour period before nine

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<v Speaker 2>to fourteen when he called Tracy. In twenty nineteen, Cayla Lafferty,

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<v Speaker 2>a reporter from KTV Channel seven, did a podcast called

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<v Speaker 2>Timeline the Disappearance of Cassie Compton, and in that podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>she talked to a friend of Judy's who said Judy

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<v Speaker 2>told them that both she and Brandon were given Lie

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<v Speaker 2>detector tests and that both of them had failed. This

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<v Speaker 2>friend said Judy told her that she thought she failed

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<v Speaker 2>her lie detector test because she was taking pain medications

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. At first, it did seem like police

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<v Speaker 2>were treating Cassie as a runaway, and they've admitted this publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuttgart Police Chief Mark Duke said, quote, you think, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>she's mad, she left, We'll find her, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>went sideways from there end quote. Police also said on

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<v Speaker 2>the record They formed this assumption based on what they

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<v Speaker 2>heard from family members and.

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<v Speaker 1>Other people close.

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<v Speaker 2>To Cassie, but no one saw Cassie on that road

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<v Speaker 2>after she left her house.

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<v Speaker 1>She was never seen again in any.

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<v Speaker 2>Verified sighting, even though there were a lot of tips

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<v Speaker 2>called in. People reported seeing her everywhere from Walmart to

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<v Speaker 2>random highways.

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<v Speaker 1>None of those young women was Cassie.

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<v Speaker 2>On October third, twenty fifteen, two and a half weeks

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<v Speaker 2>after Cassie went missing, police took Brandon and Judy's phones. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>shortly after detectives left their home, a house fire started.

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<v Speaker 2>The small house fire at Brandon and Judy's residence was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly put out, but the timing was bizarre. By

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<v Speaker 2>late fall, the investigations seemed stalled. Police were still saying

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<v Speaker 2>the only official people of interest were Judy and Brandon,

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<v Speaker 2>but some strange things were happening on social media. For

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<v Speaker 2>one thing, Cassie's personal Facebook page liked the missing page

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<v Speaker 2>for Cassie, and law enforcement stated that more than one

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<v Speaker 2>person had access Cassie's personal Facebook page. Also that fall,

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<v Speaker 2>starting around September twenty fifth, police and the FBI started

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<v Speaker 2>searching the area that began around the Stuttgard airport. They

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<v Speaker 2>were looking into reservoirs, riverbanks, under bridges, all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>hiding places near Cassie's home. According to the website find

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie Compton, the police were considering the theory that someone

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<v Speaker 2>could have transported Cassie's remains walking or by bicycle, possibly

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<v Speaker 2>in pieces. They looked for rolled up rugs or garbage bags,

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<v Speaker 2>but they found nothing. Judy and Brandon started talking to

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<v Speaker 2>the media. Actually Judy did most of the talking, but

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<v Speaker 2>when Brandon spoke, he said this.

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<v Speaker 1>She was gone, Mike, I whispering.

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<v Speaker 2>Win. I found his wording a bit strange. How does

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<v Speaker 2>a fifteen year old vanish into thin air like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Now this was late summer, so even though sunset was

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<v Speaker 2>around seven to twelve pm, it would not have been

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<v Speaker 2>fully dark until half an hour or so later. And

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<v Speaker 2>yet not one person saw Cassie after she left her house.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a few theories about what could have happened

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<v Speaker 2>to her. Some people believe she could have been kidnapped,

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<v Speaker 2>either by strangers or by someone she knew, or possibly

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<v Speaker 2>she was sex trafficked. Maybe going out for cigarettes was

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<v Speaker 2>code for something. Maybe Cassie had plans to run away

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe something else happened to Cassie in that house

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<v Speaker 2>and she never made it past the driveway for other reasons. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>a few weeks after Cassie went missing, Judy.

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<v Speaker 1>And Brandon broke up.

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<v Speaker 2>Judy told Channel seven quote, I believe Cassie would come

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<v Speaker 2>back if she knew he was not in the picture

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<v Speaker 2>end quote. She mentioned that Cassie and Brandon had not

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<v Speaker 2>gotten along. She kicked Brandon out. He started living on

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<v Speaker 2>the streets. He was arrested for squatting at a property

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<v Speaker 2>and given a hundred day jail sentence. The Stuttgart Police

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<v Speaker 2>Department started working with the FBI and the state Police.

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<v Speaker 2>Judy announced one thousand dollars reward for any information that

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<v Speaker 2>would help lead to her daughter. Then in October, police

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<v Speaker 2>found something under the Biometro bridge about fifteen miles from

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<v Speaker 2>Casco on the White River. This was near the place

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<v Speaker 2>where Cassie's cell phone had last pinned. Police reportedly found

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<v Speaker 2>objects that included a gatorade bottle, two men's shirts, men's

0:14:41.925 --> 0:14:47.645
<v Speaker 2>toiletries including shaving cream, folded drapes, a girl's Hugs and kisses, sweater,

0:14:48.005 --> 0:14:51.805
<v Speaker 2>a Teddy Bear in two bags. Two my knowledge, police

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<v Speaker 2>have never confirmed if those items belonged to Brandon Roads,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of people thought that the shaving cream

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<v Speaker 2>might have some significance because Brandon normally had a beard,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he was arrested a few days after this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff was found on unrelated charges, he was clean shaven,

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<v Speaker 2>so by now a lot of people in the community

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<v Speaker 2>were fixated on Brandon Roads. Police said the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>they often say in these investigations, that Brandon and Judy

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<v Speaker 2>were people of interest, but no one was arrested a charge,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said no one could be ruled out. Neither

0:15:30.525 --> 0:15:33.365
<v Speaker 2>Brandon nor Judy have ever been charged in connection with

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie's disappearance. Over the years, Judy's opinion of whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not Brandon could have been involved seemed to shift, at

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<v Speaker 2>least publicly. In November of twenty fourteen, Judy talked to

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<v Speaker 2>a reporter from ABC channel seven about her relationship with Brandon.

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<v Speaker 2>She said Brandon could be controlling. For example, she said

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<v Speaker 2>he would always pick up the phone and interrupt her

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<v Speaker 2>when she was talking to law enforcement. Judy also talked

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<v Speaker 2>about her past and about the incident that led to

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<v Speaker 2>her being on the sex offender list in Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>According to court documents.

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<v Speaker 2>Judy was found guilty in Marshall County, Oklahoma, of permitting

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<v Speaker 2>abuse or neglect.

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<v Speaker 1>In November of nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight, Judy told the reporter that Roy, her ex husband,

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<v Speaker 2>had assaulted her daughter. She said that she was charged

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<v Speaker 2>with failure to protect her child and basically forced to

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<v Speaker 2>take a plead. Judy told Channel seven, quote, my ex

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<v Speaker 2>husband was messing with my oldest daughter and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything about it. Then my oldest daughter told my

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<v Speaker 2>mother end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>But I went through.

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<v Speaker 2>Those court documents and I saw that not only was

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<v Speaker 2>Judy put on the sex offender registry, she was also

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<v Speaker 2>given a five year suspended sentence in connection with that case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet when she talked with the reporter, she kind of

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<v Speaker 2>made it sound, in my opinion, like something that happened

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<v Speaker 2>to her rather than something she was complicit in.

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<v Speaker 1>I found out even.

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<v Speaker 2>More details about these charges, and this case was dark.

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<v Speaker 2>He is charged with leude molestation in this case. According

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<v Speaker 2>to the court records, the child was traumatized and wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to give video evidence rather than face Roy in court,

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<v Speaker 2>which the court allowed. Roy was given a twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>year prison sentence. According to the records, I found By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Roy was in prison when Cassie went missing

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<v Speaker 2>and still appears to be incarcerated. Does this past behavior

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<v Speaker 2>mean that Judy knew anything about what happened to Cassie. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but in my opinion, it does show that she appears

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<v Speaker 2>to be capable of minimizing abuse inside the home, and

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<v Speaker 2>that worries me. After Cassie disappeared, Judy had to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with multiple heartbreaks over the years, including one cruel person

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<v Speaker 2>who actually impersonated Cassie and pretended that she was alive

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<v Speaker 2>and wanted to talk to Judy. I cannot even imagine

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<v Speaker 2>what that must have been like. Cassie's disappearance made local

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<v Speaker 2>and nation news, but there were no arrests. In addition

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<v Speaker 2>to Brandon, because this was a fifteen year old girl,

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<v Speaker 2>police also looked into other young men who Cassie had

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<v Speaker 2>been talking to. On September seventh, twenty fourteen, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a post on Cassie's Facebook page, actually her last post,

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<v Speaker 2>in which she wrote, quote, let's get one thing straight.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not with Dustin, okay, and she mentions a

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<v Speaker 2>last name as well, which we're not going to mention.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of people were asking Dustin about this

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<v Speaker 2>so underneath her comment, he replied and said he and

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<v Speaker 2>Cassie were never together. He was a little older, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can imagine him getting nervous if a miner

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<v Speaker 2>went missing. Anyway, police apparently followed that lead and ruled

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<v Speaker 2>Dustin out. Things kept coming back to the home, back

0:18:55.365 --> 0:18:58.565
<v Speaker 2>to Brandon Rhads. One of the things I found most

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<v Speaker 2>frustrating about this case is that over the years we've

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<v Speaker 2>heard a lot about Brandon Rhoades, so many rumors u

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<v Speaker 2>concrete backs. He continued to get into trouble with the

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<v Speaker 2>law after splitting from Judy. In twenty fifteen, Brandon was

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<v Speaker 2>arrested on drug charges, including possession of a controlled substance methamphetamines.

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<v Speaker 2>After pleading guilty, he was sentenced to two years in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Then a couple of years later, he was arrested again,

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<v Speaker 2>this time it had nothing to do with Cassie Compton.

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<v Speaker 2>On October sixteenth, twenty eighteen, Brandon was stopped by police

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<v Speaker 2>in Pleasant Plains, Arkansas. They saw that Brandon was driving

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<v Speaker 2>on a suspended license, so they arrested him.

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<v Speaker 1>The officers searched the.

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<v Speaker 2>Car and they found a loaded AR fifteen assault rifle

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<v Speaker 2>with a red scope and a lot of other tactical gear. Later,

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<v Speaker 2>police determined that that weapon had been reported stolen. They

0:19:54.965 --> 0:19:59.005
<v Speaker 2>got information that Brandon had been paid several hundred dollars

0:19:59.085 --> 0:20:02.565
<v Speaker 2>to kill the wife of one of his acquaintances, so

0:20:02.645 --> 0:20:06.405
<v Speaker 2>they brought Brandon up on capital murder charges. I wanted

0:20:06.405 --> 0:20:09.125
<v Speaker 2>to understand more about this, so I looked into the

0:20:09.205 --> 0:20:13.765
<v Speaker 2>court documents. Brandon had a different story. He said he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't remember anything from the night before. Later he changed

0:20:17.165 --> 0:20:19.445
<v Speaker 2>his story and said, yes, he was in Batesville to

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<v Speaker 2>follow someone. He said that a man had paid him

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars to follow around this man's wife, so

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon was acting as kind of an unofficial private investigator.

0:20:30.765 --> 0:20:33.125
<v Speaker 2>Brandon also said he had no idea he had a

0:20:33.165 --> 0:20:36.245
<v Speaker 2>stolen gun in his truck, but the guy who reported

0:20:36.245 --> 0:20:38.685
<v Speaker 2>the gun stolen said Brandon was at his residence the

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<v Speaker 2>night before. The next morning, Brandon and the gun were gone,

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<v Speaker 2>So it didn't take Charlote Holmes to figure out who

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<v Speaker 2>took that weapon. Again, there's been almost nothing reported about

0:20:51.205 --> 0:20:54.245
<v Speaker 2>Brandon's background. I wanted to know who he really is,

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<v Speaker 2>so I found buried in a lot of different court

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<v Speaker 2>documents related to his arrest, the forensic reports that were done,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had a lot of very interesting information. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we learn a lot more about Brandon Rhades from

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<v Speaker 2>these documents than we have in any of the interviews

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<v Speaker 2>that he's done. According to court documents, Brandon was born

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<v Speaker 2>in Little Rock. He grew up with his mother, grandmother,

0:21:18.525 --> 0:21:22.245
<v Speaker 2>and younger brother in Greenbrier, Arkansas, but he said they

0:21:22.325 --> 0:21:25.405
<v Speaker 2>moved around a lot to several different states. He told

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<v Speaker 2>the examiner that he had a stepfather in his life

0:21:27.645 --> 0:21:31.005
<v Speaker 2>as well, who was in a motorcycle gang. Brandon said

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<v Speaker 2>his stepfather physically and sexually abused him between the ages

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<v Speaker 2>of seven.

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<v Speaker 1>And nineteen years old.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that from a young age he was abused.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he was abused with fists, a board, an

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<v Speaker 2>electrical cord, He was thrown across the room, and when

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<v Speaker 2>things got too difficult at home, he would escape to

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<v Speaker 2>the woods. Sometimes he would sleep outside. He went to

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<v Speaker 2>school in Mount Vernon and Stuttgart High School, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was expelled several times for having an explosive temper. He

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<v Speaker 2>said he stopped going to school in ninth grade and

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<v Speaker 2>went to work. Brandon said when he was seventeen, he

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<v Speaker 2>went to meet the man he believed was his biological father,

0:22:09.405 --> 0:22:12.605
<v Speaker 2>but later a DNA test showed that that man was

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<v Speaker 2>not his father, which I can imagine must have been

0:22:15.325 --> 0:22:19.085
<v Speaker 2>crushing for him. He also said he had been smoking

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<v Speaker 2>pot around three times a day for as long as

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<v Speaker 2>he could remember. He said he developed a meth habit

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<v Speaker 2>in high school. At first, like a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, he started taking it to keep him awake

0:22:29.525 --> 0:22:33.205
<v Speaker 2>at work. Brandon worked several different jobs. He worked at

0:22:33.245 --> 0:22:36.725
<v Speaker 2>lumber one in Stuttgart, but he got fired from that job. Later,

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<v Speaker 2>he did some landscaping and worked for a company and

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<v Speaker 2>DeWitt fabricating metal for farming equipment. By twenty eleven, Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>was on his own. He was living in abandoned houses

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<v Speaker 2>for a few weeks at a time. That's when he

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<v Speaker 2>got into a relationship with Judy and he moved in

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<v Speaker 2>with her and Cassie and Stuttgart. Now, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at his old Facebook posts, which have been inactive for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, this seems to have been a happy

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<v Speaker 2>time for him, at least on social media. Judy is

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<v Speaker 2>his cover photo the whole thing, and he has a

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<v Speaker 2>post there saying that Judy baptized him in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>In this interview with the psychiatrist, Brandon discussed his criminal history.

0:23:18.565 --> 0:23:22.005
<v Speaker 2>He told the examiner about Judy and Cassie and said, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>I would not be surprised if someone is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>kill me because they believe I killed her daughter and

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<v Speaker 2>buried her somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have time to go through the entire case,

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<v Speaker 2>but the case, by the way, is wild. Police were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out which story to believe what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on here. They found text messages between Brandon and

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<v Speaker 2>the man who allegedly hired him to follow his wife.

0:23:50.965 --> 0:23:53.085
<v Speaker 2>In those texts, they were discussing the fact that this

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<v Speaker 2>woman was allegedly cheating on her husband with another man,

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<v Speaker 2>a love rival. So at first Brandon and the husband

0:24:00.085 --> 0:24:03.565
<v Speaker 2>talk about beating up the other love rival. Then Brandon

0:24:03.845 --> 0:24:08.405
<v Speaker 2>was apparently planning to plan drugs on this love rival. Later,

0:24:08.845 --> 0:24:12.965
<v Speaker 2>Brandon and the husband also talked about just killing the wife.

0:24:13.005 --> 0:24:15.885
<v Speaker 2>The whole time, Brandon was saying he's obsessed with the

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<v Speaker 2>punisher Frank Castle from the comic books.

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<v Speaker 1>For those who haven't read it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the vigilanti who tortures bad guys and has a

0:24:23.845 --> 0:24:29.125
<v Speaker 2>very twisted view of dispensing justice. Police interviewed the wife

0:24:29.125 --> 0:24:32.245
<v Speaker 2>whom Brandon followed. She talked about how her husband had

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<v Speaker 2>paid someone to stock her, how she'd seen a white

0:24:35.325 --> 0:24:39.085
<v Speaker 2>truck the type that Brandon drove around. Police also found

0:24:39.085 --> 0:24:42.765
<v Speaker 2>evidence that Brandon called this woman and pretended to be

0:24:42.845 --> 0:24:46.365
<v Speaker 2>a woman, and that in that phone conversation he told

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<v Speaker 2>her that she was a mother who needed to be

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of her kids. This gets even deeper. Brandon

0:24:53.405 --> 0:24:57.045
<v Speaker 2>told police he had gender dysphoria. When they arrested him,

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<v Speaker 2>he was wearing fake breasts and a sports brath And

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of text messages in these documents

0:25:03.685 --> 0:25:07.805
<v Speaker 2>where Brandon was talking to this love rival, and in

0:25:07.845 --> 0:25:11.085
<v Speaker 2>these texts he was pretending to be a woman and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to entice this man into doing some very sexually

0:25:14.805 --> 0:25:19.365
<v Speaker 2>graphic things. It seems to me from these police interviews

0:25:19.365 --> 0:25:24.245
<v Speaker 2>that Brandon sees himself as a violent anti hero vigilante.

0:25:24.845 --> 0:25:27.525
<v Speaker 2>He also said he was never close to his mother.

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<v Speaker 2>He later told police he did not like women. And

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<v Speaker 2>yet it's complicated because according to his behavior, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like he's also in many ways presenting as a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>The case continued to get more and more bizarre. Then

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<v Speaker 2>in early twenty twenty one, there was another very strange incident.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>In early twenty twenty one, a video of a woman

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok and other social media started making the rounds.

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<v Speaker 2>This this woman had black hair and two black eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and was in the car with a couple of guys

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<v Speaker 2>who were rapping the whole time. She was just looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward with this kind of dead stare. This woman looked

0:26:17.405 --> 0:26:21.805
<v Speaker 2>identical to Cassie Compton. People believe this could be her.

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<v Speaker 2>This brought new life into rumors that Cassie could have

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<v Speaker 2>run away on her own.

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<v Speaker 1>The video went viral.

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<v Speaker 2>And people started posting about a missing person's case that

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<v Speaker 2>was solved by TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI Little Rock Office.

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<v Speaker 2>Confirmed that they were looking into who this mystery woman was,

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<v Speaker 2>but sadly, this was not Cassie. The woman was later

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<v Speaker 2>identified as Hailey Grace Phillips. She was a young woman

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<v Speaker 2>from Los Angeles who actually made her own video to

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<v Speaker 2>say she was not Cassie Compton. She said she'd recently

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<v Speaker 2>been mugged, that's why she had black eyes, but she

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<v Speaker 2>was fine and safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Another dead end.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to twenty nineteen, Caylea Lafferty is doing her podcast

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<v Speaker 2>called Timeline The Disappearance of Cassie Compton. She ended up

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<v Speaker 2>interviewing Brandon Rhodes at the Independence County Jail. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Kayla was not able to record the interview with Brandon,

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<v Speaker 2>but she did record her thoughts immediately afterwards. She said

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<v Speaker 2>she asked Brandon what he thought had happened to Cassie.

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<v Speaker 2>She said Brandon told her that he believed the text

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<v Speaker 2>that Cassie sent that text to her friend Hunter about

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<v Speaker 2>cigarettes with some kind of code. He believed that she

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<v Speaker 2>had been waiting for someone and that she got picked

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<v Speaker 2>up and never made it out of the driveway. Kayla

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<v Speaker 2>said that Brandon told her that Judy was sick and

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<v Speaker 2>that when Cassie came home from Hunter's house, he said

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<v Speaker 2>he was in the bedroom with Judy. So now he

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to be saying that he never saw Cassie. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this totally contradicts what Judy has said in the past

0:27:53.205 --> 0:27:56.765
<v Speaker 2>about Brandon being in the kitchen cooking, and it contradicts

0:27:56.805 --> 0:27:59.525
<v Speaker 2>what he himself has said in the past. He said

0:27:59.565 --> 0:28:01.765
<v Speaker 2>he saw Cassie, she came in, She was there for

0:28:01.805 --> 0:28:04.725
<v Speaker 2>a few minutes, and she left. By the way, that's

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<v Speaker 2>also a different story than Hunter tells, because remember Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>said that when he and Cassie pulled up, Brandon was

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<v Speaker 2>outside and saw Cassie going into the house. Cayla said, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking about how people think he's a psychopath.

0:28:20.565 --> 0:28:23.245
<v Speaker 2>He asked me what I think makes a psychopath. He

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<v Speaker 2>was going on and on about how it's pain that

0:28:25.405 --> 0:28:27.885
<v Speaker 2>creates a psychopath. I then asked him, are you a

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<v Speaker 2>sociopath or a psychopath? He was like, what, No, But

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<v Speaker 2>the whole time he was staring me dead in the eye,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to intimidate me into believing he's a psychopath, I

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<v Speaker 2>think end quote. She also asked him about these very

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<v Speaker 2>strange murder for higher charges, and he told her a

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<v Speaker 2>version of what he told the police, that he was

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<v Speaker 2>paid a few hundred dollars, but that actually he was

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<v Speaker 2>just posing as a hitman and the reason he was

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<v Speaker 2>doing that was so that he could work under cover

0:28:54.845 --> 0:28:57.965
<v Speaker 2>and be sent to prison on purpose, so that he

0:28:58.005 --> 0:29:03.085
<v Speaker 2>could work on Cassie's case from the inside. Cayla also

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<v Speaker 2>said Brandon told her that a psychologist to diagnose him

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<v Speaker 2>with multiple personality disorder. So, in my opinion, interactions with

0:29:12.925 --> 0:29:15.245
<v Speaker 2>law enforcement and Brandon show a picture of someone who

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<v Speaker 2>is clearly disturbed and.

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<v Speaker 1>Does have some issues.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to go back to the court documents,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to go back to what the trained professional,

0:29:22.645 --> 0:29:26.085
<v Speaker 2>the forensic examiner found, because the examiner who did a

0:29:26.125 --> 0:29:29.805
<v Speaker 2>clinical interview with Brandon found nothing like that. No mental

0:29:29.845 --> 0:29:33.405
<v Speaker 2>disease or defect, no depression or anxiety. They found Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>was competent to stand trial. No multiple personality disorder or

0:29:37.925 --> 0:29:42.885
<v Speaker 2>suicidal ideation. They did notice that Brandon's speech was low

0:29:42.965 --> 0:29:45.845
<v Speaker 2>volume and slow rate, but they said that did not

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<v Speaker 2>indicate any type of mental deficiency. On the contrary, they

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<v Speaker 2>found he had very good short term and long term memory.

0:29:53.765 --> 0:29:56.205
<v Speaker 2>Brandon said something to the examiner that I think is

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<v Speaker 2>very telling. He said, quote, I am a violent person,

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<v Speaker 2>very volatile, but I know when I can or can't

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<v Speaker 2>be violent depending on situations. Here at the doctor's office

0:30:07.445 --> 0:30:09.805
<v Speaker 2>or court is not a situation where you can be

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<v Speaker 2>violent end quote. To me, this signifies that he understands

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what was going on. So what's next for Cassie's case.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people in Judy's family, including her son Chris, have

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<v Speaker 2>said they still believe that Brandon may have been involved.

0:30:28.205 --> 0:30:31.765
<v Speaker 2>When Judy last talked to media, she said that she

0:30:31.925 --> 0:30:35.885
<v Speaker 2>no longer believes that Brandon could have harmed Cassie. Judy

0:30:35.925 --> 0:30:38.485
<v Speaker 2>has said, quote, he looked at her like his daughter,

0:30:38.565 --> 0:30:41.205
<v Speaker 2>you know, and if he did, it would be shocking

0:30:41.245 --> 0:30:41.445
<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote. But based on Judy's.

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<v Speaker 2>Past some of these patterns, we can deduce that even

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<v Speaker 2>in the most generous and best case scenario, she is

0:30:51.965 --> 0:30:55.045
<v Speaker 2>not always the best judge of character. And we already

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<v Speaker 2>know that Brandon's a liar and by his own admissions,

0:30:58.445 --> 0:31:02.245
<v Speaker 2>has some very disturbing thoughts and complicated feelings about women.

0:31:03.045 --> 0:31:06.805
<v Speaker 2>So now we're left with this suspicion's behavior stories that

0:31:06.885 --> 0:31:09.805
<v Speaker 2>don't match. But as far as I know, no physical

0:31:09.805 --> 0:31:14.725
<v Speaker 2>evidence finding Cassie's remains would be a major break in

0:31:14.765 --> 0:31:18.925
<v Speaker 2>the case. I don't know how many of y'all remember

0:31:18.965 --> 0:31:21.845
<v Speaker 2>those topics threads. I know the site has been shut

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<v Speaker 2>down for a long time now, but people still have

0:31:24.965 --> 0:31:27.765
<v Speaker 2>screenshots from the old days where people were talking about

0:31:27.845 --> 0:31:31.245
<v Speaker 2>rumors on there. Some people have made the point that

0:31:31.285 --> 0:31:33.725
<v Speaker 2>Brandon was into prepping and that.

0:31:33.805 --> 0:31:38.165
<v Speaker 1>He would know where to hide a body. He actually said.

0:31:37.925 --> 0:31:40.725
<v Speaker 2>In his police interview that he was very into prepping

0:31:40.805 --> 0:31:44.125
<v Speaker 2>and talked about that a lot. Maybe there's a clue

0:31:44.125 --> 0:31:48.845
<v Speaker 2>there somewhere. If Brandon did do something to Cassie, if

0:31:48.885 --> 0:31:51.845
<v Speaker 2>he did kill her, where would he put her body?

0:31:53.085 --> 0:31:56.725
<v Speaker 2>How would a prepper handle this situation? Did he use

0:31:56.765 --> 0:31:59.165
<v Speaker 2>his bike or could he have used Judy's car or

0:31:59.245 --> 0:32:00.045
<v Speaker 2>another vehicle that.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know about.

0:32:01.845 --> 0:32:05.365
<v Speaker 2>Brandon, who was always completely denied any involvement in Cassie's

0:32:05.365 --> 0:32:10.205
<v Speaker 2>diay appearance, is now out of prison. Brandon seems to

0:32:10.285 --> 0:32:14.005
<v Speaker 2>paint himself in his interviews as the victim of circumstances.

0:32:14.405 --> 0:32:16.685
<v Speaker 2>But we're about to hear about the other side of

0:32:16.725 --> 0:32:25.285
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Rhoades, this time from one of his victims. As usual,

0:32:25.445 --> 0:32:27.405
<v Speaker 2>I found the answer I was looking for buried in

0:32:27.445 --> 0:32:30.205
<v Speaker 2>some otherwise boring court documents that, to my knowledge, no

0:32:30.245 --> 0:32:33.925
<v Speaker 2>one has ever talked about. In twenty twenty three, a

0:32:34.005 --> 0:32:37.085
<v Speaker 2>woman asked for an order of protection against Brandon. Now

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<v Speaker 2>this is public information, but out of respect and concern

0:32:39.845 --> 0:32:42.005
<v Speaker 2>for this victim, I'm not going to make her name public.

0:32:42.605 --> 0:32:45.485
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling this story because I believe it is very

0:32:45.525 --> 0:32:49.405
<v Speaker 2>important and potentially very relevant. Here's what she wrote, in

0:32:49.445 --> 0:32:52.005
<v Speaker 2>her own words in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to read an excerpt here, not the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing.

0:32:55.925 --> 0:32:58.725
<v Speaker 2>This victim said that Brandon has tackled her to the

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<v Speaker 2>floor multiple times, that he has called her names, that

0:33:02.205 --> 0:33:04.445
<v Speaker 2>he would scream at her, call her a bitch and

0:33:04.485 --> 0:33:07.165
<v Speaker 2>a cunt and a whore. She said he has sexually

0:33:07.165 --> 0:33:09.845
<v Speaker 2>assaulted her, that he has put her in a chokehold.

0:33:10.645 --> 0:33:13.645
<v Speaker 2>She wrote quote, he has told me about his two

0:33:13.685 --> 0:33:17.165
<v Speaker 2>people inside his head, chaos and insanity, and has brought

0:33:17.205 --> 0:33:19.885
<v Speaker 2>them out to meet me and belittle me. Brandon told

0:33:19.925 --> 0:33:22.005
<v Speaker 2>me when we first got together that has ex abused

0:33:22.085 --> 0:33:24.205
<v Speaker 2>him and that he was getting in trouble for nothing.

0:33:24.605 --> 0:33:26.285
<v Speaker 1>None of this was true.

0:33:26.365 --> 0:33:30.125
<v Speaker 2>Brandon has major anger issues. He's a time bomb. He

0:33:30.245 --> 0:33:33.925
<v Speaker 2>was arrested on domestic battery from his previous relationship where

0:33:33.965 --> 0:33:36.765
<v Speaker 2>he did the same things to her. I am scared

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<v Speaker 2>for my life if he gets out tomorrow and comes

0:33:39.165 --> 0:33:42.485
<v Speaker 2>to the apartment. I'm having neck and back and shoulder

0:33:42.605 --> 0:33:44.525
<v Speaker 2>and down into my arms searing.

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<v Speaker 1>Pain from the abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>I can provide documents and photos of bruises. He also

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<v Speaker 2>forced me to put my Facebook messenger in snapchat on

0:33:52.965 --> 0:33:55.965
<v Speaker 2>his phone. He has searched me online and paid for

0:33:56.005 --> 0:33:59.325
<v Speaker 2>it getting all my info. I am scared to death.

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<v Speaker 2>When he gets out and finds out I'm doing all this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be dead end quote. The order of protection was granted.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no desire to publicize someone's private life like this,

0:34:11.605 --> 0:34:14.245
<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, I feel a responsibility to

0:34:14.285 --> 0:34:18.445
<v Speaker 2>this victim because this man is out there, and if

0:34:18.485 --> 0:34:21.565
<v Speaker 2>something does happen to this woman, I want the man

0:34:21.645 --> 0:34:24.605
<v Speaker 2>who's abusing her to know that a massive audience of

0:34:24.605 --> 0:34:27.605
<v Speaker 2>people know what is going on, and that these listeners

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<v Speaker 2>care about what's happening and will report it immediately to

0:34:30.205 --> 0:34:35.325
<v Speaker 2>law enforcement. Something that does jump out to me immediately

0:34:35.845 --> 0:34:38.405
<v Speaker 2>when I read this, other than the sheer horror of

0:34:38.445 --> 0:34:41.445
<v Speaker 2>this statement, is the fact that this woman said something

0:34:41.485 --> 0:34:45.325
<v Speaker 2>really interesting. She said Brandon forced her to have her

0:34:45.445 --> 0:34:49.005
<v Speaker 2>social media on his phone, that he stalked her social media,

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<v Speaker 2>so we know that he's savvy with social media. I

0:34:52.725 --> 0:34:55.805
<v Speaker 2>wonder about that because we know that a few days

0:34:55.845 --> 0:35:00.525
<v Speaker 2>after Cassie went missing, her Facebook page was liking a

0:35:00.565 --> 0:35:03.885
<v Speaker 2>page on Facebook. I want to believe that Cassie Compton

0:35:03.965 --> 0:35:07.405
<v Speaker 2>ran away and it's somewhere her best life, and maybe

0:35:07.405 --> 0:35:11.845
<v Speaker 2>she is, But honestly, I don't think that's likely. Also

0:35:11.885 --> 0:35:14.245
<v Speaker 2>find myself thinking about that last text, the one that

0:35:14.285 --> 0:35:17.565
<v Speaker 2>Cassie sent saying she was going out for cigarettes, and

0:35:17.765 --> 0:35:22.245
<v Speaker 2>wondering whether she really sent it at all. On September fourteenth,

0:35:22.325 --> 0:35:26.445
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, as the sun went down behind that small

0:35:26.485 --> 0:35:31.645
<v Speaker 2>house in rural Arkansas, what really happened that night? If

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<v Speaker 2>you have any information about Cassie Compton, please call the

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<v Speaker 2>Stuttgart Police Department on eight seven oh sixty seven three

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<v Speaker 2>one four one four. An alternative number that they've given

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<v Speaker 2>is the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at

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<v Speaker 2>one eight hundred eight four three five, six seven eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen

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<v Speaker 2>Gone Murder Line is a production of School of Humans

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<v Speaker 2>and iHeart Podcasts. It's written and narrated by me Catherine

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<v Speaker 2>Townsend and produced by Gabby Watts.

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<v Speaker 1>Music is contributed by Ben Sale.

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<v Speaker 2>Executive producers are Virginia Prescott, Brandon Barr, and Elsie Crowley.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a case you'd like me and my

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<v Speaker 2>team to look into, you can reach out to us

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<v Speaker 2>at our Helengon Murder Line at six seven eight seven

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