WEBVTT - Best of Nick Wright: Buss Family Sells Lakers, Baker Mayfield Deserves More Love, Are Chiefs “America’s Team”?

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<v Speaker 1>The volume. The Lakers just sold for a ten billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar evaluation, which I've believed for a long time. Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>all these sports franchises are undervalued. Whenever they say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are worth seven billion dollars, My take is

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody in Saudi Arabia had a good month with oil,

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<v Speaker 1>they buy him for thirteen billion. Because you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if Google is going to be around in twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>or Microsoft. You know the Dallas Cowboys are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be around in twenty years. In fact, I remember reading

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<v Speaker 1>a story years and years ago they went back to

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<v Speaker 1>like nineteen eighty and they took the thirty leading companies

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<v Speaker 1>in the Dow Jones, and twenty five years later only

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<v Speaker 1>one was still like a really it was like Chevron

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<v Speaker 1>or something. And so my point is the Mark Walters

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<v Speaker 1>group is the Dodger owner. It's a really good group.

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<v Speaker 1>And it does make me think, Okay, the mom and

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<v Speaker 1>pop Lakers are over, because that's been the big knock

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<v Speaker 1>in LA is that I mean family? The Dan Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>could buy the Bus family four times. They've been one

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<v Speaker 1>of the poorest NBA ownership groups.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, and one of the poorest from a net worth perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would argue that they haven't. They have been

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<v Speaker 2>one of the more poorly run organizations in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that's weird because they have the second

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<v Speaker 2>most championships and they just got Luca and Lebron went there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that they have squandered a lot of opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that since doctor Bus passed, they have There

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<v Speaker 2>are very few things you can say the Lakers do

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<v Speaker 2>top notch in the league. And while they have been,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, willing to spend, I think they've you know,

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<v Speaker 2>last decade, they've spent like the seventh most money they

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<v Speaker 2>should be the seventh most for Los Angeles Lakers. Is

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<v Speaker 2>not maximizing the market and the brand. I understand, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not baseball, so there is a cap. And in the

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<v Speaker 2>new NBA with the aprons, just spending recklessly can really

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<v Speaker 2>hamstring you. But this is a massive net positive for

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<v Speaker 2>the Los Angeles Lakers for their fans. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>you should not have They're in a weird spot where

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<v Speaker 2>similar to the Cowboys, where ownership's primary source of income

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<v Speaker 2>is the team, and that's one of the reasons I

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<v Speaker 2>think the Cowboys don't necessarily spend the way they should.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how I have felt about the Lakers. So listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know much about Mark Walters. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>he bought twenty six percent of the team from I

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<v Speaker 2>think and Shoots or whomever with the guarantee. Part of

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<v Speaker 2>that was if the buses sell, I get the first opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>And now he's in. Now I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Historically sports franchises have been undervalued. I wonder if we

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<v Speaker 2>are now getting to wear ten billions, ten billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, that's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about this. Yeah, the Celtics sold for six billion.

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<v Speaker 1>The GDP of Boston, the gross domestic product is six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million annually. It's a trillion. In Los Angeles. The

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles economy would be the twentieth biggest economy in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, meaning it would be bigger than about one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty five countries.

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<v Speaker 2>So and they own the the Lakers own their arena,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's an importance. So like you just if the

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<v Speaker 2>arena's worth two billion, given where it is in the

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<v Speaker 2>real estate and whatever. So now it's not six versus ten,

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<v Speaker 2>it's six versus eight. And you take the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>LA's a bigger market. And you know, as much as

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<v Speaker 2>this will pain our buddy Bill Simmons, the Lakers are

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest brand in basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this, The Celtics were in the finals two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't get a good rating. Oh, it didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a number, right, I mean when the Lakers are in

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<v Speaker 1>the final, regardless of who the star is, it generally

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<v Speaker 1>gets a much bigger rating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's also true the Lakers have never been in

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<v Speaker 2>the finals without one of the biggest stars in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a lot of like Lakers time they made

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<v Speaker 2>the finals with that scrappy, underachieving team. No, it's Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>or Kobe or Shacker, Magic or Kareem or Will.

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<v Speaker 3>But still your point stands.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, they are the the This is a fun

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<v Speaker 2>one because you did your mount what was it, Mount

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<v Speaker 2>crush More, Mount just just more because they're just more

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<v Speaker 2>than everyone else. If we were to do God, this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is corny and make funnable content it also,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure will crush On TikTok or something, if we

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<v Speaker 2>were to do the Mount Rushmore franchises in American sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Four four to me, there are three no brainers. And

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<v Speaker 2>then people would argue about the four fourth, but the

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<v Speaker 2>three no brainers are the New York Yankees, the Dallas Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Los Angeles Lakers. Those to me, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm missing anything there? I think those are the

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<v Speaker 2>three brands that are truly every.

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<v Speaker 1>Corner of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>They're you know, somebody's walking around wearing a T shirt

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<v Speaker 2>even if they've never heard.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I will say this. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>LA Dodgers because of the Walters Group, perfect spring, summer, fall, weather,

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<v Speaker 1>O tawny. Now is you know Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday Dodger

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<v Speaker 1>games are now an event. There are fans from the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Rim. Every home game road attendance for the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>is number one in the league. They played the Yankees,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was last year it felt like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the crowd was Dodger fans. They travel

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly well. I think the Dodgers over the last eight

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<v Speaker 1>since they have been purchased from the Mark Walters Group,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have become and I'm and I mean this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're a step ahead of the Yankees. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have all the pennants, they don't have all the titles.

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<v Speaker 1>But this ownership group is much more It's got deeper pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more aggressive. I mean the way they are pushing

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<v Speaker 1>contracts down the road. They're not a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bigger brand than the New York Yankees. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting close. I think Otawi changes it.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>If the idea is like Otani brings in and a

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<v Speaker 2>whole similar to I.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand one's Japanese and one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he brings in the Pacific Rim.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like what Yao Ming did for the Houston Rockets.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all of a sudden, it's like you have this

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<v Speaker 2>whole new market.

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<v Speaker 3>But if so, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I really maybe eventually the Dodgers get there. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers, is the three the teams across

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<v Speaker 2>sports competing for that fourth spot. Dodgers definitely are in

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<v Speaker 2>the contention. The Celtics are the Warriors? No, probably not,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's good. The Warriors are like the Chiefs in

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<v Speaker 2>that it's the super nova of the moment in Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>or Steph Curry. But they don't have a history to

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<v Speaker 2>where they're this big brand. So do you think you

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<v Speaker 2>think the Dodgers now have surpassed the Cubs as the

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<v Speaker 2>second biggest brand in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, because again, remember Chicago wanted the Olympics. Why

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't they get them because they were not considered a

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<v Speaker 1>global city. They were considered uh maybe are They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago has won Best North American City seven years in

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<v Speaker 1>a row from Conde Architecture. It's an unbelievable city, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not viewed as an international city.

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<v Speaker 2>D C.

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, LA, New York. Boston similarly is not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>seen It's seen as kind of parential, of course, provincial parochial.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they've surfaced. And the Cubs, the Ricketts family,

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<v Speaker 1>which by the way, they live about five minutes from

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm sitting right now, they are it seats thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand, their revenues just don't They're not close. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just not close anymore so. And I think the Cubs

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<v Speaker 1>are historic and they matter domestically, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they pull.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be real nice, and it also might be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the benefit of the Cubs when or

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<v Speaker 2>benefits their own word. But brand recognition, for lack of

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<v Speaker 2>better term of the Cubs had to do with if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a millennial when you were growing up with like

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<v Speaker 2>basic cable for some reason, you got the Cubs games

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<v Speaker 2>because of WGN, so you could like watch your team

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<v Speaker 2>and the Cubs and so they they had that and

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<v Speaker 2>now people can watch whatever teams they want.

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw the who.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you sorry for this slight detour, but after the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think the biggest brand in football is?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I I hesitate that in the moment, it's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs, but you wonder, like if Mahomes retired, like

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<v Speaker 2>then the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting you if you bought the Chiefs today, we would

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<v Speaker 1>have to consider Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes part of

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<v Speaker 1>the buyde yes. So this idea, well, the brand, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the brand right now? Jerry Jones is eighty They're dysfunctional,

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<v Speaker 1>their roster's bad. There's value to it. But Kansas City's

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<v Speaker 1>got the best quarterback in the league for the next

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<v Speaker 1>ten years. So I mean that when Lebron James went

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<v Speaker 1>from the Miami Heat back to Dan Gilbert in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to somebody in that equity space. He said

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<v Speaker 1>that was a four four, one hundred million dollar day

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<v Speaker 1>for Dan Gilbert. Now the Cavs without Lebron, even with

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Mobley and Donovan Mitchell, Lebron changed that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a paradigm shift economically for Cleveland. Literally, Ken Griffy saved

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<v Speaker 1>baseball in Seattle. Lebron James changed the economy. Taylor Swift's tour,

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<v Speaker 1>an example, made two point one billion dollars, sold ten

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<v Speaker 1>million tickets. That is double the next biggest tour ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's only big because of one reason, the artist.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you count, I mean, let's be honest, if

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<v Speaker 1>you bought a soccer franchise ten years ago and Ronaldo

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<v Speaker 1>had an eight year contract, it would make it worth

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<v Speaker 1>half a billion dollars more So, I think the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>with Mahomes, that adds to me, that adds half a

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere between five hundred billion and a billion dollars. They

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<v Speaker 1>go from six billion to seven because of Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so that's the other piece of this.

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<v Speaker 2>The other piece of this is if the if the

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<v Speaker 2>most valuable team in the NBA is now worth ten

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars, what is the most valuable team in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL worth is it fifteen billion? Like? Honestly, like, what

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<v Speaker 2>is if this is the new Because you can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>like as much as as big of a brand as

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers are.

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<v Speaker 3>And I understand the NBA's new TV deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I get all that, there is nothing that is the

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<v Speaker 2>machine that is the NFL. So if the Lake, if

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<v Speaker 2>we now have Lakers ten billion, Celtic six billion, you

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<v Speaker 2>know as the metrics, then the if forget the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of a good, you know, a good.

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<v Speaker 2>If the San Francisco forty nine ers were for sale,

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<v Speaker 2>are they a ten billion dollar franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you. I'll give you one that is undervalued.

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<v Speaker 1>One Cronky owns Sofi Stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, the owning the stadium is a big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you bought the Rams, you get the state.

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<v Speaker 1>I get Sofi Stadium, which can house a hundred concerts

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<v Speaker 1>a year. Yeah, and the Chargers and the Rams. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have to consider that when you buy the Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say, in the number two market in

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<v Speaker 1>the country, I get Sean McVeigh, I get a well

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<v Speaker 1>run operation, I get Sofi. I'm sorry, but that's over

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<v Speaker 1>ten billion dollars. I mean it just has to be.

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<v Speaker 2>If they now that the Lakers are worth ten the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest NFL brands have to be worth more.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody once in the last year asked Baker Mayfield about

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<v Speaker 1>me and blah blah blah, and he said, well, we're frenemies,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Baker knows I like him and respect him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's always been nice to me. He said nice

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<v Speaker 1>things publicly. You had to take the other day that

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<v Speaker 1>he's Actually he was over discussed when he was in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now under discussed. And it's funny because I think

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<v Speaker 1>Baker's better than Dak. He's better than Tua. He's better

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<v Speaker 1>than Gino, He's better than Aaron, he's better than Russell,

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<v Speaker 1>he's better than Cousins. I think he and Darnold are

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<v Speaker 1>very similar that they can be mistake prone, but they

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<v Speaker 1>can plan it and they're real players.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty touchdowns last year. Yeah No, he's been really good

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<v Speaker 3>going there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah No. Baker is a prime example. You see this

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in the NBA where a guy comes in

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<v Speaker 1>and you just needs the mature Aunt Edwards. In the NFL, generally,

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<v Speaker 1>maturity's not the issue. It's you either have it or

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. Baker was the rare lot of testosterone, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of confidence, and I felt like, can somebody turn

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<v Speaker 1>the Governor down just a little. He was Johnny Manziel,

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<v Speaker 1>but more likable and with actual talent. He could really

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<v Speaker 1>throw football. But I think Baker is the rare NFL

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<v Speaker 1>player in quarterback. You're like one of the talents. Inarguable,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just got to turn the Governor down. Cleveland was

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<v Speaker 1>not built for Baker. You go to a great GM,

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<v Speaker 1>a talented roster in Tampa, which is by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>below the radar. It's in the NFC South, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a low profile division. Baker now is absolutely underdiscussed. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good NFL quarterback. I don't think that's disputable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's hard to make a top ten

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<v Speaker 2>and not include him. And but then when you add

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<v Speaker 2>to the fact that he makes around sixty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>what the other guys in that top ten make, his

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<v Speaker 2>value is massive. He for a guy who dealt with

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<v Speaker 2>injuries during in his time in Cleveland, he's incredibly durable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>his teammates love him, and he now has back to

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<v Speaker 2>back years of really high productivity, a playoff quarterback, win

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<v Speaker 2>the division again forty touchdowns last year. I And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there was because he was talked about

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<v Speaker 2>so much when he wasn't yet that good, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>think people got I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If numbs the right word. They were just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>got over him.

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<v Speaker 2>And now that he is, I think really good people

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<v Speaker 2>are just like, okay, yeah, that's Baker, Like he's a

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<v Speaker 2>people I think boxed him in.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Story and that is true, but he's more than that

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. At this point, like, do I this

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, a third rail for some Do I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's better than Brock Birdie?

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<v Speaker 3>I do? So what would I rather have?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? And so you said, Dak Prescott, I think that's close.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there is There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks that like I'll give you a great example. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's young and we'll see, but he makes a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money. I think he's pretty clearly better than

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love. And I think that Jordan Love is discussed.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting. So I was really not anti

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love, but but I said, for two years, there

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<v Speaker 1>is more footage of Bigfoot than Jordan Love. They're hiding

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<v Speaker 1>him for a reason. Then he came out and he

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of sensational, and I really bought into him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then It's as if the league defensive coordinators got

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<v Speaker 1>all this footage and they found holes and at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of last year, you're like, oh, people have caught

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<v Speaker 1>on to him. This is now. It would be a

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<v Speaker 1>sophomore slump for anybody else, but he was like in

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<v Speaker 1>his fourth year. Yeah, and so I want to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's like an NBA playoff series, like you

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<v Speaker 1>get worked, then you change things and that there's stages

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<v Speaker 1>and coaching, you know, adaptations.

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<v Speaker 3>To a playoffs adjustment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So now I've seen Jordan shock the league. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen people react and he struggles. Now I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see his next hand with Matt Lafleur. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted to me a a receiver in the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're like, listen, we he may need a little

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<v Speaker 1>more help than we think here. But I so, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure Baker's better. I think Jordan's got a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a whip and he's a really good athlete. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's one of the last quarterbacks in this league.

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the Chiefs become America's team.

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<v Speaker 3>Or will that always be?

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<v Speaker 1>In Cowboys? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the Cowboys were tied for third in total audience,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because Fox puts them on games they probably

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be. But because the biggest draws right now are

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs and the Bills and the Ravens and the

0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Niners are also big in the Packers. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>after this year when Dallas wins five to six games

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<v Speaker 1>because I think they have the worst probably head coach

0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.920
<v Speaker 1>in the league, arguably good Court. I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>an average coordinator. I think he's more I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean certainly the most unproven and the oddest

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<v Speaker 2>higher yeaheah.

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<v Speaker 1>So my take is Dallas will be the fourth most

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<v Speaker 1>watch team in the league after this year. Now, Fox

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<v Speaker 1>may because of Fox promotion and marketing ability and production values,

0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 1>we may be able to prop up the Cowboys juice it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Fox just does it. Fox gives you, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you give Fox baseball, it just is better than

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<v Speaker 1>other networks doing baseball. Fox is really good at Eric

0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Shanks lived in a truck. That's how your CEO. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has a specialty. Bodenheimer was sales when I was at ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN could monetize anything, anything shit screw up in a truck.

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<v Speaker 1>So our production values are sensational. They always have been.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I said this a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The five to six hour live Super Bowls from opening

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<v Speaker 1>moment the pregame show starts to the end, they're majestic.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like as good as American television gets for us

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<v Speaker 1>live five hours. So so I think Fox may prop

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys up, but if you put them on another network,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't. They wouldn't resonate as much. But they're not

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<v Speaker 1>They're not a fun team. Dak is a boring player,

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<v Speaker 1>a second lower body body injury. He's not hyper athletic,

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have a big arm. They have a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting receivers. They're not fun to watch. Philadelphia is

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<v Speaker 1>fun to watch, Detroit's fun to watch, Buffalo, Kansas City. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some teams in this league that I I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like when the receivers are healthy. Houston's fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>When the receivers are healthy, Cincinnati's fun to watch. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think Kansas City is actually America's team. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any question. And I would say yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say Buffalo to me feels like number two.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Buffalo is probably the team people the team

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<v Speaker 2>neutral fans root for the most, because I think people

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<v Speaker 2>they look at Buffalo not as an underdog, but like man,

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<v Speaker 2>they gotta get over at some point. And Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 2>is so likable, and the Chiefs have kind of become

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<v Speaker 2>like villains, you know, to a degree.

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<v Speaker 3>All that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I just think I think the team that

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<v Speaker 2>is the biggest draw on, the most interesting is the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>And that the reason I even asked it is it

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<v Speaker 2>just speaks to the power of the NFL that the

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<v Speaker 2>most popular or most interesting team in the biggest league

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<v Speaker 2>in the country can be from Kansas City, Missouri.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Like that, it isn't it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Happen about peace. Think about this. Here's the sixth biggest

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<v Speaker 1>brands in the NFL, arguably now Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore,

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay.

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 2>The Celtics approach of being like we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>play the fourth quarter of a playoff game the exact

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.480
<v Speaker 2>style we would play the first quarter of a February

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<v Speaker 2>game is just that's not staying true to who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>That's being ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be.

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<v Speaker 2>As if the Chiefs at their heyday of the when

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<v Speaker 2>Tyreek was there and everything, when they were just high

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<v Speaker 2>flying and didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a good defense, if they when.

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<v Speaker 2>They were up ten in the fourth quarter of a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game, they're like, bombs away, this is what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not smart. That's not staying true to who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why when the Miami Dolphins have Jalen Waddle and

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<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Kill. That works in September and October. But as

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<v Speaker 1>the weather gets windy and coal and the all the

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<v Speaker 1>best AFC teams plan lousy weather. What you really need

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and this is a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>flaw with Mike McDaniels, is what you really need to

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<v Speaker 1>do is start to change your offense about Thanksgiving because

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to go to Baltimore, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what happens is this is what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We throw it downfield. Will you have a small, modest

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<v Speaker 1>armed quarterback and you're still trying and then you try

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<v Speaker 1>to pivot to know it's too late. And so it

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<v Speaker 1>was always funny watching the Dolphins and I'm like, guys,

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you're falling in love with September and October football. This

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>stuff works. Then the NFL think about this, name the

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<v Speaker 1>last Dome dynasty in the NFL. Name the last warm

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<v Speaker 1>weather dynasty. They don't exist. Marino never want to ring

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<v Speaker 1>right because eventually you become a very warm weather offense.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers with Dan Fouts were electric.

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<v Speaker 2>So that this is a sneaky important thing, and this

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.880
<v Speaker 2>is just random luck of the moment as far as

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<v Speaker 2>who's good, because you're exactly right that the AFC, all

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<v Speaker 2>the excellent teams are outdoor, shitty weather, so like, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that oddly likely works against the Houston Texans

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<v Speaker 2>ability to compete for championships in that they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>unless they get home field advantage throughout the playoffs. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just not going to be conditioned playing in the AFC

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 2>South and playing in a dome. The NFC is the opposite,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is such a unique potential edge Philadelphia has.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're the Eagles, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the time being now, maybe Washington will get great.

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<v Speaker 2>They were really good last year, and maybe the Giants

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<v Speaker 2>will get great, Maybe the Bears will get great, maybe

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the Packers will get great. So this all can change.

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 2>But for the time being, for the Eagles, last few years,

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>they rams Detroit, San Francisco, Dallas, whoever wins the South, Tampa.

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 2>So they are in a spot where if we can

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 2>get home field, whoever's coming here ain't built for this shit, right,

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 2>So like in the AFC, home field matters a little

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 2>less for the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Cincinnati because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>all right, no matter what, this is gonna be a

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.640
<v Speaker 2>pain in the ass, tough, like we're all we're all

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>built our teams knowing that the NFC, it's just how

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<v Speaker 2>it turned where the Lions are in a dome and

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:56.439
<v Speaker 2>the Rams have so that can change, but for the

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>time being, it makes it to wear for Philadelphia's specific

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<v Speaker 2>thickly home field advantage is wildly valuable, wildly valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to throw something out here. It's I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to the NBA and and Draymond

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Green obviously part of the volume, and you know, there's

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>certainly an argument he's I think he's the best defensive

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>player ever. I mean his ability to take Shangoon out

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>of games to give I mean give to give Yannis

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>massive problems. Now to give you the greatness of Jokich.

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 1>He just waves the white flag on Jokich, just like

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't do anything either could Anthony Davis. By the way,

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Anthony would hold him to twenty eight and Anthony was like,

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I played really good and he did, so I mean

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>jokicch's I mean, Draymond gives Yannis issues. He gives everybody issues.

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>But one of the brilliant things about Draymond, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's purposeful and intentional. He moves the line so

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like, if you're a parent, you don't want

0:26:55.560 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>to yell at your kids all the time. So the

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 1>the kid that's a little inappropriate is constantly consciously or

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>subconsciously testing his parents what he can get away with,

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and at some time, at some point, you as a

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>parent will be harder on the good natured, to well

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>behave kid, of course, who infrequently makes a mistake, then

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the kid that's always in trouble. When I watched Draymond play,

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Mike Green, Breen pointed this out. Draymond has moved a

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<v Speaker 1>line that he did something the other night where people

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>on the air were defending him, and I'm like, nobody

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>would get away saying I've said this for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>So listen, Draymond.

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 2>And I have a very relationship complicated the right word.

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 2>But it's complicated because I am very tight with a

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>number of people who love Draymond Green, who swear by

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 2>Draymond Green who and Draymond does not, you know, have

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 2>an affinity for me, and I have been critical of

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>him in the past, but everyone people whose opinion I

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 2>really trust and value say off the court, one of

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the best dudes ever, So it's a weird dynamic there. Simultaneously,

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I have said that I thought he should have won

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>three straight Defensive Player of the Year awards back when

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Kawhi won two of them, and I do think he

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>is one of the most brilliant defensive players of all time.

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm on the record that I thought he, not Clay,

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>was the second most important person of the pre KD Warriors.

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>So all that's there.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Here is the other piece of it. There is no

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 2>player in NBA history who is given more leeway than

0:28:55.360 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and this is an important qualifier Draymond Green after getting

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 2>one technical. Sometimes I think the Warriors are their most

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>dangerous if Draymond gets a technical early. And I know

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Draymond is his most devastating defensively when he has five fouls,

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>because if Draymond gets to five fouls, he does not

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>file out at six, he fouls out at nine, he

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>gets three more off damn it, like we're gonna let

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>it go. And Draymond with one technical can follow the

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>ref up and down the court doing anything, and a

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 2>ref doesn't want to throw him out, and so there

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 2>is no question that the guys the NBA refs do

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 2>a I think one of the things they need to

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 2>do better about is guys who never complain get a

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>quick trigger on text the one time they do, and

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 2>guys who always whine and yell and complain. The refs

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 2>seem to turn a deaf ear to with the it. Oddly,

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really feel like it applies to Luca, because

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I think Luca actually really irritates the refs because here's

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the difference between Luca and Draymond. Draymond is complaining or

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>yelling about calls that go against him. Luca is yelling

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>about calls he does not get. And for some reason,

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>I think refs are way more bothered by what Luca

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>does than what Draymond does.

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Luca is saying you missed it. Draymond is arguing

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't the effort, but.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Right exactly Draymond. Draymond is saying I'm innocent.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Luca is saying you're guilty, And so the refs seem

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 2>to hate Luca, and with Draymond, they're like, ah, Draymond's

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 2>being Draymond. But there's also it's not just it's not

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 2>just on text. I'm gonna tell like, people can look

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>up the game log and they will see it. It's

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>a really so Draymond right now has two flagrant foul

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>points or and you're suspended that happened him in twenty sixteen.

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 2>You get one for a flagrant one, you get two

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>for a flagrant two. In Warriors Rockets game seven, early on,

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Draymond got fouled and then swiped his hand and hit

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Fred, it was definitely it was

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Fred van Vliet, and the refs went and reviewed it

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>and they said foul on Fred van Vliet and then

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 2>dead technical on Draymond for hitting him in the face,

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>with the justification being it can't be a flagrant because

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 2>the play was over technically over by a quarter of

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 2>a second, so it's a technical. The very next game

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>played in the NBA, Jokich got fouled by lou Dort

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 2>and Jokic hit him in the head, and the refs

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>went and reviewed it and they said foul on lou Dort,

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 2>flagrant on Joker, And I'm like, that is the exact

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>thing that Draymond literally the exact thing, and it was

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 2>a different rule interpretation, and that was I know it

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>In my bones because the refs were aware, Oh shit,

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Draymond is a If we give him this flagrant, then

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 2>on his next flagrant, which he is guaranteed to get

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 2>at some point, he'll be suspended for a game. So

0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 2>let's just give him a technical and so listen, if

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 2>you can get away with it, it's smart. He can

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 2>get away with it. And when Draymond there was just

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 2>a I should have pulled it. There was an amazing

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 2>graphic today, one of those little dot charts where it

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>was players since the two minute report has existed, players

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>who have benefited the most, and it was like Mahomes

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>one of the NFL quarterback charts, like where there's like

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of dots here on this line and

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 2>then right here's Mahomes through five years or whatever where

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>he breaks the chart. It was Draymond that not a

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>by three standard deviations. No player has had more calls

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 2>where the two minute report says, yeah, that should have

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 2>been a foul on them and we missed.

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 3>It than Draymon.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 2>He so he he has ye mind melded the refs

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 2>into I'm your great defender, I probably didn't fall him

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 2>and gets away with all of it.

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 3>And it's and I give him credit because it's the only.

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Way to the only way a guy with his shooting ability,

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>his height, his limited athleticism could become a first ballot

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer is playing this way.

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And he did it. He's done it.

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Finally, you gotta bless Dallas Cowboy fans heart. They're so

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>excited for George Pickens. And I was saying this today

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.439
<v Speaker 1>when Kyle Shanahan said, I can't make Trey Lance work.

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I made Matt shab a pro bowler, Brock Prudy, I

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>got into a Super Bowl, Garoppolo, I got to a

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. I can't make Trey Lance work. And the

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys were like, ooh, here's a fourth round pick. Okay.

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>When Warren Buffett says, be careful with bitcoin, I'm careful

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>with bitcoin. When Mike Tomlin says about a receiver, listen,

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't make it work, Chase Claypool, ab Martevius Bryan,

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the list goes on GANA Johnson. If Mike Tomlin,

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>who is two things, great motivator and incredibly patient with

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>immature players. When Mike says, yeah, guys, I'm out doubt.

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But Jerry, this is a personality trait. Jerry loves to save.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.720
<v Speaker 1>He loves to give people jobs that need him. Chan Gaily,

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy, Jason Garrett, Brian Schottenheimer. They feel like Jerry

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Jerry is saving, that he's giving him job that's not available.

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy couldn't get interviews parcels and Jimmy Johnson didn't need

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>him that war. Jimmy out Dak Prescott fourth round. He

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>loves hey, Tony Romo undrafted. Cowboys never draft quarterbacks in

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the first round. They don't need. So when he goes

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and gets George Pickens, who the reputation is out basically Tomlin,

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm out. Jerry's like, I'm here, I'll make it work.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I think this is Jerry's wild catting oil days where

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>he would hunt for gems, and I think that is

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>literally his mindset with coaches and sometimes draft picks and players,

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>is that he feels like Pickens, he's he's the rest

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>of the league is out. I am in, and I

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think long term. I think that's why the Cowboys

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>are where the Cowboys are currently in the NFL.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that George Pickens is one of the more

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>overrated players in the whole league. And the reason I

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.800
<v Speaker 2>feel that way is because I think certain football fans

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 2>this is one of my this is one of my

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 2>favorite and kind of relatively newest to which is talent

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 2>has become wildly overrated, and particularly particularly in the NFL.

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Obviously you need a requisite level of talent. That goes

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>without saying, however, this idea that talent is some cure

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 2>all when this guy has been a pain in the

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 2>ass every step.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Of his football life. It is why he fell on

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 3>the draft.

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 2>It is why you were hearing rumors about him being

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 2>available during his second year. During his third year, he

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 2>was traded here. It is the he It's you know,

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 2>when you are potentially trying to get a contract in

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>the offseason and your team is in the middle of

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 2>a losing streak and you show up to the Christmas

0:37:55.239 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Day game against the Kansas City Chiefs ninety minutes before kickoff.

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 2>You show up three hours before your TV show Colin

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>you have two hundred and twenty of them a year,

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>he's got seventeen football games, and he is like, you're

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 2>just not a serious person and you're not going to

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 2>contribute to winning the way your talent says you should,

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 2>And so there's that. There is also the fact that

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 2>trading a third round pick for a player with one

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 2>year left on his contract means you probably should give

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 2>him a contract extension. The only thing worse, in my opinion,

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>than trading a third round pick for one year of

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 2>George Pickens than letting him be a free agent, is

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 2>giving that guy fifty million guarantee. So the Cowboys put

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 2>themselves in a position where it's no win. Do we

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:58.359
<v Speaker 2>pay this guy early when he has never He's never

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>been the top ten in the NFL anything. He's like,

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:09.240
<v Speaker 2>his career numbers are pedestrian. He's never out paced his production,

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 2>has never outpaced his targets, and he is he quits

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 2>and is a million gets unnecessary, a million problems there,

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 2>So you can't pay him.

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:24.720
<v Speaker 3>But the other thing you shouldn't.

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 2>Do is a smart franchise is keep trading these mid

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 2>round picks for rentals. And so I two years ago

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Colin the Chiefs ended up winning the Super Bowl. But

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 2>two years ago, when the Chiefs had nothing but drops

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 2>everywhere and the receivers couldn't do anything, Pickens was available then,

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and Wilds and Bru couldn't believe me.

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't want him.

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, the Chiefs already are on thin ice

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>with Kadarius Tony, like they you know, and they got

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 2>They got the Chiefs trade for Canarius Tony. They gave

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 2>up a fifth round pick. He had three years left

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>on his deal and that's still listen. He had the

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 2>amazing partner turn of the Super Bowl, but he's still

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>ultimately can't get right. Guys can't get right, and so

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a Pickens guy. I also think he's a

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 2>somewhat overrated player. And I also think, for if Mike

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Tomlin had a hard time keeping him inside the lines,

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Brian Schottenheimer in his first year as a head coach,

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 2>how much of Brian Schottenheimer's time is gonna be about

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Mike's podcast and whatever the hell George Pickens did?

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 3>A lot of it is the answer to that,