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Speaker 1: And it does make me think, Okay, the mom and

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Speaker 1: in LA is that I mean family? The Dan Gilbert

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Speaker 2: Correct, and one of the poorest from a net worth perspective,

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Speaker 2: and I would argue that they haven't. They have been

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Speaker 2: And I know that's weird because they have the second

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Speaker 2: But I think that they have squandered a lot of opportunities.

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Speaker 2: not maximizing the market and the brand. I understand, it's

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers for their fans. In my opinion,

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Speaker 2: And that's how I have felt about the Lakers. So listen,

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Speaker 2: I don't know much about Mark Walters. I know that

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Speaker 3: And now he's in. Now I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Historically sports franchises have been undervalued. I wonder if we

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Speaker 1: So think about this. Yeah, the Celtics sold for six billion.

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Speaker 2: So and they own the the Lakers own their arena,

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Speaker 2: LA's a bigger market. And you know, as much as

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Speaker 2: this will pain our buddy Bill Simmons, the Lakers are

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Speaker 1: Like this, The Celtics were in the finals two years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's also true the Lakers have never been in

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Speaker 2: the finals with that scrappy, underachieving team. No, it's Lebron

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they are the the This is a fun

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I will say this. I think the

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Speaker 2: Bigger brand than the New York Yankees. I think they're

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, because again, remember Chicago wanted the Olympics. Why

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Speaker 1: Interesting you if you bought the Chiefs today, we would

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Speaker 3: If numbs the right word. They were just kind of

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Speaker 2: And now that he is, I think really good people

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Speaker 2: Have the Chiefs become America's team.

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Speaker 1: So our production values are sensational. They always have been.

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Speaker 2: That's being ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: That would be.

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Speaker 2: As if the Chiefs at their heyday of the when

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Speaker 2: That's not smart. That's not staying true to who you are.

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Speaker 1: And so what happens is this is what we do.

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Speaker 2: ability to compete for championships in that they're not going

435
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Speaker 2: unless they get home field advantage throughout the playoffs. They're

436
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: just not going to be conditioned playing in the AFC

437
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: South and playing in a dome. The NFC is the opposite,

438
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: and it is such a unique potential edge Philadelphia has.

439
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: So if you're the Eagles, yep.

440
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: And for the time being now, maybe Washington will get great.

441
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: They were really good last year, and maybe the Giants

442
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: will get great, Maybe the Bears will get great, maybe

443
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: the Packers will get great. So this all can change.

444
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: But for the time being, for the Eagles, last few years,

445
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: they rams Detroit, San Francisco, Dallas, whoever wins the South, Tampa.

446
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: So they are in a spot where if we can

447
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: get home field, whoever's coming here ain't built for this shit, right,

448
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 2: So like in the AFC, home field matters a little

449
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: less for the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Cincinnati because it's like

450
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: all right, no matter what, this is gonna be a

451
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: pain in the ass, tough, like we're all we're all

452
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: built our teams knowing that the NFC, it's just how

453
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: it turned where the Lions are in a dome and

454
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: the Rams have so that can change, but for the

455
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: time being, it makes it to wear for Philadelphia's specific

456
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: thickly home field advantage is wildly valuable, wildly valuable.

457
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Speaker 1: So I want to throw something out here. It's I

458
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Speaker 1: want to go back to the NBA and and Draymond

459
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Speaker 1: Green obviously part of the volume, and you know, there's

460
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Speaker 1: certainly an argument he's I think he's the best defensive

461
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: player ever. I mean his ability to take Shangoon out

462
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: of games to give I mean give to give Yannis

463
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: massive problems. Now to give you the greatness of Jokich.

464
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: He just waves the white flag on Jokich, just like

465
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Speaker 1: I can't do anything either could Anthony Davis. By the way,

466
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: Anthony would hold him to twenty eight and Anthony was like,

467
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: I played really good and he did, so I mean

468
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Speaker 1: jokicch's I mean, Draymond gives Yannis issues. He gives everybody issues.

469
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Speaker 1: But one of the brilliant things about Draymond, and I

470
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: think it's purposeful and intentional. He moves the line so

471
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Speaker 1: it's almost like, if you're a parent, you don't want

472
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Speaker 1: to yell at your kids all the time. So the

473
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: the kid that's a little inappropriate is constantly consciously or

474
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: subconsciously testing his parents what he can get away with,

475
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: and at some time, at some point, you as a

476
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: parent will be harder on the good natured, to well

477
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: behave kid, of course, who infrequently makes a mistake, then

478
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: the kid that's always in trouble. When I watched Draymond play,

479
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: Mike Green, Breen pointed this out. Draymond has moved a

480
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: line that he did something the other night where people

481
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: on the air were defending him, and I'm like, nobody

482
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: would get away saying I've said this for a long time,

483
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: So listen, Draymond.

484
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: And I have a very relationship complicated the right word.

485
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: But it's complicated because I am very tight with a

486
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: number of people who love Draymond Green, who swear by

487
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: Draymond Green who and Draymond does not, you know, have

488
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 2: an affinity for me, and I have been critical of

489
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: him in the past, but everyone people whose opinion I

490
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: really trust and value say off the court, one of

491
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: the best dudes ever, So it's a weird dynamic there. Simultaneously,

492
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: I have said that I thought he should have won

493
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: three straight Defensive Player of the Year awards back when

494
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: Kawhi won two of them, and I do think he

495
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: is one of the most brilliant defensive players of all time.

496
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: And I'm on the record that I thought he, not Clay,

497
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: was the second most important person of the pre KD Warriors.

498
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Speaker 1: So all that's there.

499
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Speaker 2: Here is the other piece of it. There is no

500
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Speaker 2: player in NBA history who is given more leeway than

501
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Speaker 2: and this is an important qualifier Draymond Green after getting

502
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: one technical. Sometimes I think the Warriors are their most

503
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: dangerous if Draymond gets a technical early. And I know

504
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: Draymond is his most devastating defensively when he has five fouls,

505
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: because if Draymond gets to five fouls, he does not

506
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: file out at six, he fouls out at nine, he

507
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: gets three more off damn it, like we're gonna let

508
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: it go. And Draymond with one technical can follow the

509
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: ref up and down the court doing anything, and a

510
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: ref doesn't want to throw him out, and so there

511
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: is no question that the guys the NBA refs do

512
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: a I think one of the things they need to

513
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: do better about is guys who never complain get a

514
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: quick trigger on text the one time they do, and

515
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: guys who always whine and yell and complain. The refs

516
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: seem to turn a deaf ear to with the it. Oddly,

517
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: it doesn't really feel like it applies to Luca, because

518
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: I think Luca actually really irritates the refs because here's

519
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: the difference between Luca and Draymond. Draymond is complaining or

520
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: yelling about calls that go against him. Luca is yelling

521
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: about calls he does not get. And for some reason,

522
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: I think refs are way more bothered by what Luca

523
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: does than what Draymond does.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Luca is saying you missed it. Draymond is arguing

525
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: I didn't the effort, but.

526
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: Right exactly Draymond. Draymond is saying I'm innocent.

527
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: Luca is saying you're guilty, And so the refs seem

528
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: to hate Luca, and with Draymond, they're like, ah, Draymond's

529
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: being Draymond. But there's also it's not just it's not

530
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: just on text. I'm gonna tell like, people can look

531
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: up the game log and they will see it. It's

532
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: a really so Draymond right now has two flagrant foul

533
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: points or and you're suspended that happened him in twenty sixteen.

534
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: You get one for a flagrant one, you get two

535
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: for a flagrant two. In Warriors Rockets game seven, early on,

536
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: Draymond got fouled and then swiped his hand and hit

537
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: I think it was Fred, it was definitely it was

538
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: Fred van Vliet, and the refs went and reviewed it

539
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: and they said foul on Fred van Vliet and then

540
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: dead technical on Draymond for hitting him in the face,

541
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: with the justification being it can't be a flagrant because

542
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: the play was over technically over by a quarter of

543
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: a second, so it's a technical. The very next game

544
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: played in the NBA, Jokich got fouled by lou Dort

545
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: and Jokic hit him in the head, and the refs

546
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: went and reviewed it and they said foul on lou Dort,

547
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: flagrant on Joker, And I'm like, that is the exact

548
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: thing that Draymond literally the exact thing, and it was

549
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: a different rule interpretation, and that was I know it

550
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: In my bones because the refs were aware, Oh shit,

551
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: Draymond is a If we give him this flagrant, then

552
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: on his next flagrant, which he is guaranteed to get

553
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: at some point, he'll be suspended for a game. So

554
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: let's just give him a technical and so listen, if

555
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: you can get away with it, it's smart. He can

556
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: get away with it. And when Draymond there was just

557
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: a I should have pulled it. There was an amazing

558
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: graphic today, one of those little dot charts where it

559
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: was players since the two minute report has existed, players

560
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: who have benefited the most, and it was like Mahomes

561
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: one of the NFL quarterback charts, like where there's like

562
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of dots here on this line and

563
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: then right here's Mahomes through five years or whatever where

564
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: he breaks the chart. It was Draymond that not a

565
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: by three standard deviations. No player has had more calls

566
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: where the two minute report says, yeah, that should have

567
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: been a foul on them and we missed.

568
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: It than Draymon.

569
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: He so he he has ye mind melded the refs

570
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: into I'm your great defender, I probably didn't fall him

571
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: and gets away with all of it.

572
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: And it's and I give him credit because it's the only.

573
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: Way to the only way a guy with his shooting ability,

574
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: his height, his limited athleticism could become a first ballot

575
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer is playing this way.

576
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: And he did it. He's done it.

577
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: Finally, you gotta bless Dallas Cowboy fans heart. They're so

578
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: excited for George Pickens. And I was saying this today

579
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: when Kyle Shanahan said, I can't make Trey Lance work.

580
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I made Matt shab a pro bowler, Brock Prudy, I

581
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: got into a Super Bowl, Garoppolo, I got to a

582
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I can't make Trey Lance work. And the

583
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys were like, ooh, here's a fourth round pick. Okay.

584
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: When Warren Buffett says, be careful with bitcoin, I'm careful

585
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: with bitcoin. When Mike Tomlin says about a receiver, listen,

586
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: I can't make it work, Chase Claypool, ab Martevius Bryan,

587
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the list goes on GANA Johnson. If Mike Tomlin,

588
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: who is two things, great motivator and incredibly patient with

589
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: immature players. When Mike says, yeah, guys, I'm out doubt.

590
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: But Jerry, this is a personality trait. Jerry loves to save.

591
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: He loves to give people jobs that need him. Chan Gaily,

592
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Jason Garrett, Brian Schottenheimer. They feel like Jerry

593
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: Jerry is saving, that he's giving him job that's not available.

594
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: McCarthy couldn't get interviews parcels and Jimmy Johnson didn't need

595
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: him that war. Jimmy out Dak Prescott fourth round. He

596
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: loves hey, Tony Romo undrafted. Cowboys never draft quarterbacks in

597
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: the first round. They don't need. So when he goes

598
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: and gets George Pickens, who the reputation is out basically Tomlin,

599
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm out. Jerry's like, I'm here, I'll make it work.

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00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: I think this is Jerry's wild catting oil days where

601
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: he would hunt for gems, and I think that is

602
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: literally his mindset with coaches and sometimes draft picks and players,

603
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: is that he feels like Pickens, he's he's the rest

604
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: of the league is out. I am in, and I

605
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: don't think long term. I think that's why the Cowboys

606
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: are where the Cowboys are currently in the NFL.

607
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: I think that George Pickens is one of the more

608
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: overrated players in the whole league. And the reason I

609
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: feel that way is because I think certain football fans

610
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: this is one of my this is one of my

611
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: favorite and kind of relatively newest to which is talent

612
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: has become wildly overrated, and particularly particularly in the NFL.

613
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: Obviously you need a requisite level of talent. That goes

614
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: without saying, however, this idea that talent is some cure

615
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: all when this guy has been a pain in the

616
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: ass every step.

617
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: Of his football life. It is why he fell on

618
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: the draft.

619
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: It is why you were hearing rumors about him being

620
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: available during his second year. During his third year, he

621
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: was traded here. It is the he It's you know,

622
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: when you are potentially trying to get a contract in

623
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: the offseason and your team is in the middle of

624
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: a losing streak and you show up to the Christmas

625
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: Day game against the Kansas City Chiefs ninety minutes before kickoff.

626
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: You show up three hours before your TV show Colin

627
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: you have two hundred and twenty of them a year,

628
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: he's got seventeen football games, and he is like, you're

629
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: just not a serious person and you're not going to

630
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: contribute to winning the way your talent says you should,

631
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: And so there's that. There is also the fact that

632
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: trading a third round pick for a player with one

633
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: year left on his contract means you probably should give

634
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: him a contract extension. The only thing worse, in my opinion,

635
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: than trading a third round pick for one year of

636
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: George Pickens than letting him be a free agent, is

637
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: giving that guy fifty million guarantee. So the Cowboys put

638
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: themselves in a position where it's no win. Do we

639
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: pay this guy early when he has never He's never

640
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: been the top ten in the NFL anything. He's like,

641
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 2: his career numbers are pedestrian. He's never out paced his production,

642
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: has never outpaced his targets, and he is he quits

643
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: and is a million gets unnecessary, a million problems there,

644
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: So you can't pay him.

645
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: But the other thing you shouldn't.

646
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: Do is a smart franchise is keep trading these mid

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Speaker 2: round picks for rentals. And so I two years ago

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Speaker 2: Colin the Chiefs ended up winning the Super Bowl. But

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Speaker 2: two years ago, when the Chiefs had nothing but drops

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Speaker 2: everywhere and the receivers couldn't do anything, Pickens was available then,

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Speaker 2: and Wilds and Bru couldn't believe me.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want him.

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Speaker 2: I was like, the Chiefs already are on thin ice

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Speaker 2: with Kadarius Tony, like they you know, and they got

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Speaker 2: They got the Chiefs trade for Canarius Tony. They gave

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Speaker 2: up a fifth round pick. He had three years left

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Speaker 2: on his deal and that's still listen. He had the

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Speaker 2: amazing partner turn of the Super Bowl, but he's still

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Speaker 2: ultimately can't get right. Guys can't get right, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm not a Pickens guy. I also think he's a

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Speaker 2: somewhat overrated player. And I also think, for if Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin had a hard time keeping him inside the lines,

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Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer in his first year as a head coach,

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Speaker 2: how much of Brian Schottenheimer's time is gonna be about

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Speaker 2: Mike's podcast and whatever the hell George Pickens did?

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Speaker 3: A lot of it is the answer to that,