WEBVTT - Fire Drill 075: A Test, With Depth - Masters Round 1 Recap 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:07.400 Your mistakes get really really magnified um and it looks 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:11.320 like it's wide, and you're always chipping off short grass 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:12.760 and you've got a great line in the bunker all 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:14.800 the time, and you're rare, very rarely in the trees. 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.599 And I mean Rory was making made a bit of 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.920 Messa thirteen from the middle of the fairway. You had 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.000 a loose shot here, and it just gets harder and 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.000 harder and harder until you get the ball in the hall. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:31.800 I got thoughts in my head. Can't get Joan nothing 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:37.080 what I'm thinking about. I got my head, can't get 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:50.080 them that jo not to think what I'm thinking about. Hello, 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.000 this is Alan Ship, not a Backer Fire Drill Podcast. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.680 Delighted to have two thousand and six US Open Championjeff 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.520 Ogilvie and Michael Bamberger here to talk about the very 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.600 action packed day at the Masters. The leaderboard is stacked, 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.319 most of the world's best players showed up. Of the 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.319 course played soft that scores were low. There was a 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.959 little tiny bit of controversy. Let's just start there so 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.400 we get out of the way. Michael, you've been a 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.000 caddy on various pro tours. Jeff, we know your credentials. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.880 So there was this little incident in the fifteenth hole 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:28.480 where it appeared that Brooks kept because caddy told another 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.679 caddy in the group what club Brooks had just hit, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.240 and it was reviewed by the Master's committee. They were exonerated, 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.520 but video evidence is pretty clear. I guess there's there's 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.720 the there's the letter of the law, and then there's 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.240 what actually happened in real time in the real world. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.320 Because it's always been a thing on tour right where 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.040 you'll tip the bags so like other players are, caddies 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.240 can see what club you hit, and it's just sort 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:57.040 of an accepted practice, but this was a little more blatant, 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:00.320 and then they denied it, and this is turned into 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.320 a little stink cloud on social media. So I want 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:06.080 to get both your reaction to what the mini controversy 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.200 involving Brooks and his caddy, and then we can move on. 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:12.320 What do you think, Jeff, I actually haven't seen the incident. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:16.919 Funnily enough, I must have been in another room, so 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.560 I don't know. I can't come in on that incident. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.919 I do know that generally speaking, at least on Path 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.839 three's every player in the group generally knows what every 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.160 other player is hit. We're not getting told. You're just 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.000 work it out either by what it looks like or 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:32.520 you kind of look, take a look at the bag 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.320 and the six is in there, and the eights in there, 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.200 and the seven isn't, so it's probably a seven. You know. 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.280 It's part of the skill of playing golf is kind 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.359 of trying to work out what club to hit, and 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.200 part of the information is what the other guys hitting 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:44.520 At nine nine percent at the time. You can tell 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.120 just by what the guy's club looks like. I mean, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.680 I can tell what someone sicks one looks like just 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.800 by when he's hitting it from twenty os away. Usually 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.399 I didn't see the incident. So if he's blatant, if ricky'splacently, 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.679 is it still Ricky Ricky Elliot? Right, yeah, yeah, I 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.120 don't know. I didn't see it, so I can't come in. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:04.400 But no one ever is telling people what club they're hitting. 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.919 But I mean, if you're on TV, this spot is 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.160 on the side of the fairway. I mean, every the 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.080 caddy's job is to put three fingers up for night 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:11.919 on or three on or whatever. Whatever. I mean, It's 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:16.160 like it's this lots of there's lots of ways to 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.919 get that information with that being told. You know, I didn't, 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.000 but I didn't say it so well. I mean, again 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:24.920 you don't have the full context. But in the clip, 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.680 it looks like he says five, you know, and he 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.480 says it out loud. You know, it's not it's not 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.320 it's not fingers, which might be more of a gray area. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.240 I mean, he's actually speaking it out into the universe 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:39.240 to another caddy. They're making eye contact. So would if 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:44.080 you know, hypothetical, if a caddy were to tell another 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.160 caddy out loud what club is player hit? Michael, would 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:48.920 you consider that a violation the rules? Or is it 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.280 not a big deal? You know, it flat out is 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.839 violation the rules to to say it. By the way, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.080 on the other side of things, somewhere along the line, Jeff, 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:59.800 you you weigh in on this because you'll know far 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.240 than I in my experience as a caddy and haven't 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.200 been around the game something. It is absolutely completely fine 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.280 for another player to walk over right to another player's 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.720 bag and look in the bag to see what arn is. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:14.839 That is not a breach about it. Now, to touch 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.919 it is different, but just to look somewhere along the 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.200 line that turned into some sort of breach of etiquette. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.039 And in my opinion, it's not a breach of etiquette, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.080 but just quick, Jeff, But you're you're about your opinion 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.000 much more meaningful on that question. What is your opinion 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:32.080 on that narrow area, on that narrow question. Yeah, I 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.840 mean it goes like you said it, as I said, 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.880 the information's all there, generally speaking and looking picking in 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.000 another player's bag, and generally, as I said, this is 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.240 only really happening on path Threys. It's not often happening 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.479 on the second shot in part five and Pathreys. Everyone's 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.480 there's three bags generally, if it's three right hands and 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.760 they're all next to each other. You know, when you're 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:54.840 standing there and you're you're you're kind of if you're 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.080 a little bit confused about what club you hitting, you're 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.479 sort of perhaps just looking at the guy's bag and 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.240 you might not see every iron, but you can see 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.039 the six, and you can see the eight and the 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.600 towels over the other ones. And when he reaches into 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.400 the bag and the six and the eight are still there, 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:08.800 and then you know it's a seven. But that's what 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:13.120 you're standing right next to the bag. That's just using 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:14.760 the information that's there. And as I said, most of 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.640 us can just look at the club that look at 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.120 the loft when he's over the ball, and you can 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.760 kind of tell it anyway. But it does, as you said, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.080 it does get grayer and grayer and it ends up 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:28.560 very dark if it's blatant sort of shouting across the tea. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.800 I do remember there was an incident. This was at 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.960 Avenel and the Kemper Open. I think in about two thousand. 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.320 I was not here yet, but Greg Chalmers left hander 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.159 and his whole career because the left hander stays on 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.640 the other side of the tea his whole career, people 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.640 would walk all the way across the tea to look 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.599 in his bag, and he just one day he just 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.360 finally had enough and he's like seven iron guys like 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.120 he just for fifteen years, it's his people have been 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:57.760 walking across the tea to peek in his bag and 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.760 he just obviously hit a bad shot or something. It 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.240 was just annoying, he said, and he got a two 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:07.000 sharpenlly for him. Um, I think yeah. I think that 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:08.479 was the year before I got out here, so I 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.720 think it was two thousand. Um, so there's precedent, I 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.400 guess for a thing, and it's it goes from goes 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.159 from like you said, completely part of the game and 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.839 not even close to a preach of etiquette, um to 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.200 just part of golf. Very white at one end and 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.039 it's very black at the other and there's a gray area. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.760 And as I said, I didn't see this specific incident, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:28.479 and it sounds like it's somewhere between one end and 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.640 the other end. Um. Yeah, we don't have all the context. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.400 Maybe you still one said Ricky, you know what time 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.919 we can have breakfast tomorrow? He said five? Like you 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.159 just you don't know. There's there's things that we're not pretty. 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.560 Maybe the spotter for CBS was putting his hands up 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.480 in the air saying what what what? What was that? 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.280 What was that? And he was yelling that passed him 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.280 or something. I don't know, like yeah, yeah, well we'll 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.440 get more information tomorrow probably, But because every caddy has 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.560 to every caddy has to give, what I has to 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.760 is kind of requested by TV to signal the spotter 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.320 on the side of the fairway what the guy's hitting. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.080 So so I'm finchy can what he's hitting into the grain. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.039 I mean that happens on every single hall on a coverage, 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.040 and that's probably happening for almost every group in the Masters, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:06.800 where the caddy is having to signal to somebody what 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.120 he's hitting. So it's kind of the informations out there. Anyway. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.200 Did you see it yourself? I've seen the replay, yeah, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:18.000 and uh it's it's it looks like the caddies are communicating, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.160 but as Jeff is saying, he could be talking to 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.080 someone on the other over the caddy's shoulder and they're 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.440 both kind of walking and moving and it's like two 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:29.880 ships passing. So um, but they all the players and 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.480 caddies were interviewed by the committee. The committee exonerated them, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.800 so we know what the Masters. They tend to side 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.640 on on with the players in a gray area. So 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.760 it's an interesting subtlety to the sport, I guess. But um, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.520 let's talk about this leaderboard because it is stacked like 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.160 uh I was. I wrote my story about Victor Hoveland. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.040 I've always everyone loves Victor Hoveland. He's like he's like 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.200 a golden retriever, you know, he just bounds around with 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:01.040 a big goofy smile. And he's always had a spectacular 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.000 long game, and he's really been working hard on his own. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:06.920 His rare to have a world class player who has 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.240 a glaring weakness like Hovelin's chipping and pitching was But 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.520 he spent the last three months revamping his action and 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.080 he made some incredible says. I don't know if you 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.160 guys saw what he did on the tenth hole. He 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.520 was short sighted, had had to go over the bunker 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.080 downhill side. I'll god and Tiger Woods are waiting to 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.560 bear witness against him, and he had it to like 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.680 four feet. I thought that was the shot of the day. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.760 And after shooting thirty one on the front nine and 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.960 he was off and run and he kind of he 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.079 set the pace at minus seven. And then of course 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:40.439 Kepa Cottam and John rom Jeff, you've talked that length 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.600 with us through the years about how difficult the first 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.120 green is. Scariest first green probably on planet Earth along 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.520 with Oakmont. John Rom four puts the first green and 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.720 then plays the next seventeen holes in nine under in 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:57.400 like a controlled rage. And so three guys at seven 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.600 on a soft golf course. But what did you think 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.080 of the leader or Jeff Oh yeah, it's everyone, and 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:07.079 I mean it's it's incredible. Everyone played well. Ram score 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.160 is nuts. When you come in you double the first, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.839 you don't shoot many sixty five to the double on 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.480 the first. It looked a bit soft. I mean I 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:15.920 was out there a little bit today and I walked 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.960 and looked gettable. The pins didn't look easy, not the 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.520 ones that I looked out and study them all, but 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:25.600 they didn't look super easy. And maybe there was a 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.719 little bit of fire. I mean, if if August it 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.640 was at its fieriest. I didn't think Victor's kind of 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.680 hit that pitch on ten that he did. I think 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.000 there's been years where that was not a possible shot, 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.640 but he came up with it. Um. I I was 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.280 out there till one or two o'clock and came back 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.800 and watched the broadcast. I thought Keptkin looked as good 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.000 as I've ever seen him. Look, he just looked the 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.960 best player in the world today, to be honest. He 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.520 just looked like it was easy. And he bokeep thirteen 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.640 I think, didn't he and still shot sixty five. I mean, 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:59.119 that's that's as bad as doubling the first. Yeah, it's 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.280 I thought he looked amazing. I mean Cam Young, I 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.880 think it was probably not talked about enough for the tournament. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:06.720 I mean, I think Cam Yunk's built for this tournament. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.400 I mean Xander Lowry, I mean, Larry's just sitting there 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.240 like no one's even talked about him. I mean, Jason 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.400 Day seems to be back looking like he did a 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.679 few years ago. Yeah, it's pretty and everybody's there, I 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.000 mean even Rory. It'll be fair. I mean, we know 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.040 he's probably going to shoot. He's probably gonna average under 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.000 seventy for the next three days. That's his tradition here, 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.200 you know what I mean. And if it gets really 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.560 really hard, I mean less than seven under could win 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:35.120 this tournament with a forecast. I mean it's probably unluckly, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:36.319 but I mean if it gets like I did in 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:41.640 O seven there on the Saturday in OH seven, there's 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.679 not gonna be many people shooting under par on Saturdays. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.120 So massive advantage of the guys who sort of you 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.040 want to go red before you go black. Right, he 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.800 as far red as you can go before it gets 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.640 really really narly. And when you get a north wind 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.800 here and he gets cold, it's going to be incredibly tough. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:01.560 So nothing's been decide, but it's a really impressive leader board. 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.840 I mean, I think if you are running a tournament 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.240 and you had this at the end of day one 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:06.800 and you looked at it, you'd be pretty happy with 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.200 the result of your leader board. Yeah, and you didn't 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.640 even mentioned Scottie Scheffler, who's right there too, defending shout 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.720 trying to go back back. He actually looked awful today, 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.800 to be honest, for him, and he probably was the 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:18.760 most impressive today because he looked like he left about 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.320 five or six shots out there and he's only three 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.760 back and you know he's not going to put like 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.000 that four days in a row. So I mean he's 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.200 in a great spot. Jeff, do you ever look at 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:32.800 Scottie Sheffer think he looks great? No, that's fair. But 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.200 the shot tracer is so good for Scottishcheffler. If you 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.320 didn't have shot tracer, you can't work out how he 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.120 does it. But shot tracer seems to match up the football. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:44.679 It all seems to make sense when you see the 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.400 ball take off straight and now this little drawers a 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.520 little fate. It's a great thing for Scheffler and he 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:55.040 just seems to I mean, he doesn't handle it. He 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.199 was getting pissy. I mean, he comes off at the 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.079 end and says, I handle my emotions really well and 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.640 all that he does. He was certainly like pretty frustrated 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.079 out there, it seemed, but he seems to hit a 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:06.720 good shot out like he's one of those guys who 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.880 seems to just use that frustration and get more focused 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.719 or get better on the next tile. And that's the 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.439 sign of the best player on when I was telling 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.360 the people we had dinner with it. Um, when you're 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.439 playing really really well every week and you're really high 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.280 ranked up, you come off and you think you play 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.080 awful every day and you're sitting top ten, and people 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.960 are like, oh, you're not playing bad, you're playing really great. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.600 But that's just what happens when you when you're playing 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.120 really well, you know you're bad days, you're still doing 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:36.360 better than most you know. Um, And there's there's absolutely 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.240 something about this tournament that if you've won it before, 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.920 it's a massive advantage, you know. 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Michael. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.600 Let's talk about KEEPCA a little bit more because it 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.680 was such a it was such a big plotline coming 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.920 in can Ay. These live guys um make you know, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.400 plant their flag here at Augusta and salvage their honor 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.880 and their entire tours. And Brooks is such a contrarian 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.479 it's easy to imagine in winning this just to spite everybody. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.680 And um, you know, he comes and ranked one hundred 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.680 and eighteenth in the world, which is really an indictment 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.040 of the world, ranking more than Brooks. But what what 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.080 did you see out of him? And what do you 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.640 think is going to happen going forward? You know, it 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.000 was almost like a non Chalan sixty five. I mean, 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:44.080 sixty five is a low, low golf scorer and uh 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.320 uh and as Jeff said, he basically made a double 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.680 bogie on thirteen because he drugs in anywhere in play 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.040 it's a six iron, and uh so he's very likely 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:53.760 going to make a four there instead of a six. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.960 And then he missed three short cuts. So I mean, 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.360 you're talking about a sixty five that people say this 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.400 all the time, but just it's actually true. He shot 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.360 a sixty too, had that easily could have been a 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.800 sixty two without even making bombs just by playing let's 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:12.360 call it sixty three sous. As Jeff was alluding to earlier, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.480 You've got to get read because Black's coming. Nobody's gonna 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.200 shoot in these conditions. I don't think anybody's gonna break 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.600 part four consecutive rounds. Maybe Rory break part for three 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.960 more rounds, given what he tends to do around here. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:31.600 But he's put himself in a tremendous position, and he 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.640 has that sort of not swagger nonchalance we've seen in 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.880 every major that he's won or contended in. He just 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.960 treats it all kind of the same. So I think 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.480 of all the low rounds today, I think was his 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.960 was the most impressive. The thing that we don't know 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:54.040 about him right now is is he sort of out 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.080 of practice for playing seventy two whole golf tournaments. It's 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.600 one thing to win three round golf tournaments and something else, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:05.080 you know, as Tony Finnou and Molnari showed us a 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.480 couple of years ago, and anybody else to do it 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.320 for four straight rounds, and of course that's what you're 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.040 gonna have to do here. And we don't know if 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.240 this shot him in Mighty Human go into Mondays, but 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.520 right now. Of all the play that we've seen, I 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.360 would say kept because it was probably the most remarkable. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.360 And he's just the perfect anti hero. You know, he's 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.320 not gonna he's he just doesn't give you that much 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.440 out there on the golf course. He's hard to read, 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.880 and he's a little brooding. He's a little mysterious, and 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.240 he could kind of be a dick and all these things. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:40.080 I think he inspires conflicted feelings people. He's kind of cool, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.440 but he's heart it's not easy to root for. But 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.080 then it's fun to watch him play. But how does 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.720 he says he's burning to win, but you can't really tell. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.480 Like he's just so enigmatic, Like he's almost the perfect 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.320 embodiment of live golf for me more than any anybody 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.080 else in this field, Like he would be the perfect 0:16:56.160 --> 0:17:00.640 winner at this very complex moment in professional golf. And 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.520 you have a lot of live support among the former winners. 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.200 I mean, we saw it when Tiger won, all those 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.320 former winners. You know, the club within the club. We've 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.439 talked about a million times. It's a real thing. The 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.960 club within the club, whether you're Larry Miys and Bernhard 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:17.440 Langer or Patrick Read and Sergio Garcia. But he's got 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.760 the support of a lot of guys who were already 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.760 in the club. And I think that he doesn't. As 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.000 he said today's press conference, you know what he shows 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.200 and when he asked him, you know how he feeled 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.200 about the next Netflix series and revealing them more vulnerable side, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.480 and he said basically help you know, adding a few 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.400 words here that there's a disconnect between how he projects 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.000 himself publicly in these tournaments and what he's really like. Um. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.359 But presuming that's true, there's no reason to doubt it 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.000 to have the support of the Sergio Patrick Read, Bubba Watson, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.520 Phil Mickelson. I don't see how that couldn't be meaningful. 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.719 What do you think, Jeff? What is what is your 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.520 take on Brooks up guy? I don't know how you 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.679 feel like him as a player or a personality in 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.760 the game. Well, I mean the guy. I think the 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.520 guy's good. I think he's misunderstood because he doesn't give 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:09.720 you guys much, right, which is fine. There's a lot 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.399 of guys who don't give you guys much. You know, 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.920 he's so good. I mean if if I mean we're 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.680 always sort of every golfer does it I mean you 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.280 watch other golfers and you kind of get heavy as 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.080 it's like I wouldn't mind that golf game, you know, 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.200 like I wouldn't mind that swing, I an't wind that 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.720 punning stroke. Whatever Brooks is that I watched him play today, 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.800 and every time I watch him, players like, well, that guy. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.879 I like that guy's game. You know, he just looks 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.439 he looks really really good. And I mean we're not 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.359 anywhere near that yet because there's a long way to 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.439 go and the weather's going to get weird and um, 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.520 but he's got a pretty good track record of when 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.040 he gets up there and if he if he gets 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.679 within twenty seven holes or so of the end of 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.119 this tournament and he's right up the top of the 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:51.879 leader board, he's not going to go anywhere, you know. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.400 It says sort of this stubborn no, I'm just better 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.639 than you guys. I'm just going to beat you, you know, 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.879 which is what the best do? You know? They just 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:04.560 happily refused to lose. And he has a he's probably 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.959 driving a better car than most. You know, he's just 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.720 the machine of Brooks kept as a proper golfer, you know, 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.600 really really good, and it looks as good as it's 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.000 looked ever to me today, at least. So, I mean 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.240 I like the guy just because he doesn't he give 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.960 you guys that much doesn't mean Um doesn't mean much. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:27.520 I don't think you know, the guy behind, the guy 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.560 in between the ropes and everyone sees on TV and 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.280 players and in the media center and the guys in 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:35.000 the locker room that it's they're very often different, you know, 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:39.040 the public persona and the real person. He just wants 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.760 it really bad, and he might maybe be a little 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:48.280 bit hesitant to sort of show that he wants it, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.040