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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex podcast from the Action Network

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Labs, presented by Yahoo Fantasy. I'm your host, Chris Raybond,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by fellow top six most accurate ranker

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Speaker 1: over the past three seasons at Fantasy Pros, the odds

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Speaker 2: Sean, what is going on?

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Speaker 1: Man? I mean, why are receiver We're about to do?

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Speaker 1: We're about to do four episodes back to back. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I've gone through the ringer of

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Speaker 3: the past couple of days. But I'm glad to be

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Speaker 3: back and glad to talk about wide receivers all day

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Speaker 3: today with you. And I feel like this episode is really,

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Speaker 3: you know, the tier that I'm looking to draft the

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Speaker 3: most in round one. So those are a very very

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Speaker 1: This here. Yeah, it all comes down to when you're

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Speaker 1: getting your receivers. I think you want four of them

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Speaker 1: in the first I would say seven eight rounds.

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Speaker 2: That's just kind of how you got to go about it.

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Speaker 1: And there's a little bit of an arms race in

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Speaker 1: a lot of sharper leaves at receivers, So should be

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Speaker 1: a good time. This episode, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver one tiers the top twelve. We'll go

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Speaker 2: You know what, we're projecting all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: So we'll go wide receiver two next episode, wide receiver

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, Sean, The question I am going

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Speaker 1: to ask you is is there any case Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: not to be the top wide receiver in fantasy, to

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Speaker 1: not be the top overall pick in fantasy for that matter?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with none, zilch, nada, whatever word you want.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously variants will dictate if he actually finishes

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Speaker 3: just classic variants. But he is certainly the odds on

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's entering year five, he's you know, in

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Speaker 1: That's not usually where he goes, but very consistent since

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Speaker 1: So I'm all in on I'm all in on Pooka.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his ADP has dropped almost two slots over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: If they say Stafford's gonna mess the season. Uh, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like foaing at the mouth. Yeah, that was amazing.

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna target hot Pooka and Jimmy g has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, give me that guy, yep.

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Speaker 2: He's generally in that range. Sometimes he drops a spad

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Speaker 2: I got to stabbed Tyrod Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Oh it was it, I thought.

438
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Speaker 2: I think that's why he's not a.

439
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: Doctor anymore for a team.

440
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to confirm or did not to Justin.

441
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: I don't Yeah that led to Justin Herbert's breakout.

442
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh yeah.

443
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Speaker 4: I think I think you're right.

444
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean, there's been a million things that happened since then,

445
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 3: but I think you might be right. I'm not a

446
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 3: hud sure, okay, but that's what you're saying. Just I

447
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: trust his opinion on like these things, and he said

448
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 3: this is something that they're gonna have to manage during

449
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 3: the season, like throughout the season, which is a concern.

450
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: And you know, we've talked about it, like in the

451
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Speaker 3: first round. We don't really want that many red flags

452
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 3: at all. Uh So it's enough of red flag for

453
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: me to bump him down a little bit to where

454
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Speaker 3: I'm more comfortable draft like a Nico Collins or even

455
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas junior ahead of him.

456
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Speaker 1: And if he, you know, don't put some respect on

457
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: Brian's college junior's saying if there's anybody that does exactly.

458
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: But yeah, like no neighbors, Like if he ends up

459
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: putting up a top five season, okay, whatever, Like I'm

460
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: not gonna regret it because I'm probably going up with

461
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 3: a guy with similar numbers. But again, this is kind

462
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: of like the Christian McCaffrey situation, where you know, he's

463
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: the most likely scenario is he's healthy all season and

464
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: he has a really good season, but there is the

465
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 3: concern heading into Week one already with this toe injury.

466
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's enough for me to bump him down

467
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 3: just a few slots, which again, where he's going right

468
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: now leads me to kind of like pass him up

469
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Speaker 3: for some of these other guys that I think have

470
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Speaker 3: just the highest ceiling, but with zero concerns heading into

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Speaker 3: Week one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree.

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Speaker 1: I have neighbors at wide receiver eight, and it's it's

474
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Speaker 1: just a toe injury for a receiver, and especially one

475
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: where he's he's already you know, copping to it and

476
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: saying it's been it's been nagging him. Now, the fact

477
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: that it's been kind of present is at least okay,

478
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: you trust that he can kind of play through it.

479
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: But we don't like to see these lower these lower

480
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: leg injuries that guys are playing through. I mean, we

481
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: saw not the same exact situation, but we've seen, you know,

482
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Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant and Tyres Howiburton more recently in NBA,

483
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: and we've just seen turf toe in general and things

484
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: like that really hamper receivers in the NFL. So I

485
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: don't want any type of situation where neighbors is aware of,

486
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Speaker 1: you know, his toe as he's running routes and we

487
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Speaker 1: want him to run you know, five six hundred routs

488
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: this year. So yeah, that's it's just yeah, it's it's

489
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: a little a little too rich for me. I think

490
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: there's some good value at running back around where you know,

491
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: neighbor starts to go. I think if you've got a receiver,

492
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Speaker 1: that's why you definitely, I think more often than not,

493
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Speaker 1: want the receiver in round one, so you have a

494
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: little bit more optionality as you go forward with some

495
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: of these guys depending on who falls and who doesn't.

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Speaker 1: You know, in a sharp draft, Neighbors might be the

497
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: guy that falls and you're like, all right, yeah, I

498
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: might want to go running back here, whereas you know,

499
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: some other drafts, it might be a guy like you know,

500
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Speaker 1: who could falling out of the top ten or something.

501
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: Which is a totally different situations.

502
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you on a little bit lower

503
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Speaker 1: on Moleak Neighbors. And now that we're halfway through the

504
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Speaker 1: top twelve, let's do a segment presented by Yahoo Fantasy,

505
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Speaker 1: looking at risers.

506
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Speaker 2: And fallers Sean.

507
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Speaker 1: So far, we've discussed Jamark Chase, Justin Jefferson, CD Lamb,

508
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Nico Collins, Phuka Nakua, and the week neighbors. Looking at

509
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: those top six guys, who sticks out as the biggest

510
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: riser this year and who's a missing from last season

511
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Speaker 1: as the biggest faller.

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Speaker 3: I'd say the biggest riser is the guy we just discussed,

513
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Speaker 3: Milik Neighbors. You know, last year's rookie. He was going

514
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: around wide receiver twenty four. I compared him to Jamar Chase,

515
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: so I don't know why I was underweight on him

516
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: at wide receiver twenty four. Big mistake by me. But

517
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: he's all the way up to wide receiver six now.

518
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: But as we discussed, I'm concerned with the toe injury,

519
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: so maybe I'm gonna look like an idiot again being

520
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: underweight on him. But he's the biggest riser for sure.

521
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: I think another guy to throw in there would be

522
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 3: Nico Collins, who is wide receiver fourteen. Now he's up

523
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: to you know, wide receiver four that range. I think

524
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 3: that's definitely warranted as he's you know, one of the

525
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: best receivers in the game now. And the biggest faller

526
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Speaker 3: has to be Tyreek Hill, going from wide receiver to

527
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: last year all the way down to wide receiver fourteen.

528
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, he could bounce back this year,

529
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: but it could be warranted just considering we did see

530
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: you know, him start to decline in his age thirty

531
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Speaker 3: season and now he's thirty one, so there are some

532
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: concerns there for me. But again, his ADP is all

533
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: the way down to wide receiver fourteen, so maybe if

534
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: he bounces back, he's worth that. But certainly the biggest

535
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Speaker 3: faller heading into the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Tyreek Hill is very polarizing fantasy

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539
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Speaker 1: Receiver seven a Monra Saint Brown. This feels low for him.

566
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Speaker 2: He's He's a.

567
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Guy that's just so consistent almost, I mean, great route runner.

568
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of like a smaller, a little

569
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: more shifty version of Keenan Allen in a way, just

570
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: always open, always making plays down to wide receiver seven.

571
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: Is that where you have him?

572
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: Are you worried about the you know, losing Ben Johnson,

573
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: losing Tanner Engstrand for jabbored Goff, maybe that that could

574
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: be a concern more so than Saint Brown himself. But

575
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Speaker 1: any thoughts on just how that that might affect Saint

576
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Speaker 1: Brown's value?

577
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I have Amnra right around here.

578
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: I think he like, if it's all Monra and Milink

579
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Speaker 3: neighbors on the board, that's when I'm kind of in

580
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: a toss up right now. But I think it's overall.

581
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: The offense overall is probably due for some decent regression

582
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: this year. Again, I'm I'm projecting this offense for seven

583
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: and a half points less per game. I mean, they

584
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: were just so perfect last year it's almost impossible to

585
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: replicate that. Plus they lost Ben Johnson, their offensive line

586
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: will likely take a step back. You know, Amonra should

587
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: still have a high floor command, plenty of targets, but

588
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: you know, Jamison Williams is going to be I think

589
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: better in year four, have a more you know, diverse

590
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: route tree, command more targets. Sam Laporta kind of had

591
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: a disappointing year two. I think, you know, now that

592
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: he's healthy again, I think your three he cold bounce back.

593
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: Jamior Gibbs could play more and command more targets, so

594
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: it could be more spread out. Even Isaac tis Law

595
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: looks like, you know, upgrade at wide receiver three potentially,

596
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: So I think this offense could be a little bit

597
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: more spread out, which would hurt Amon Ra. But again,

598
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: like you said, he's such a good route runner, he's

599
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: always open. I think he's still going to get a

600
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: ton of targets, but I think just with the offense

601
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: expected to kind of take a step back, you know,

602
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: points per game wise, he might have less touchdowns. But

603
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: I think this is this is the right range to

604
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: take him. I think he does offer that high floor

605
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: that I do want, certainly in these first couple of

606
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: so this is right about where I have him, and

607
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: I think if he's available in this range, you know,

608
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: I'm willing to make that click.

609
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was it last year or was it the

610
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Speaker 1: year before. I remember there was another year because his

611
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: rookie year, we were both all over him. Yeah, but

612
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Speaker 1: I do remember you're being a little skeptical of him

613
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: one of the years, like after he blew up and

614
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: I was like, no, don't, don't even do it.

615
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: I feel like that again.

616
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Speaker 1: I just there's no holes I can poke in Amara

617
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Speaker 1: Saint Brown's game. I mean, if the Lions take a

618
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: step back, he they're just gonna have to pass more

619
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be open. And he's still got a

620
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: capable quarterback in Jared Goff, who's you know, he'll put

621
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: up yardage if if they have to throw, he might

622
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: might throw more picks, but he's gonna run the highest

623
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: percentage roughts in the offense. You know, Jameis and Williams

624
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: still more of a deep deep threat kind of guy.

625
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: And Taslas a blocker like he's I know he's playing well,

626
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, they like him for his blocking. I'm not

627
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: gonna get tomorrow. I have a wide receiver six. I

628
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: don't really see any I don't really see any downside

629
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: with him. So he's very valuable to me in this

630
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Speaker 1: in this range at wide receiver because unlike them week

631
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Speaker 1: neighbors who I see an injury, I see, I see

632
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: quarterback on certainty, even though I think ultimately dark he's

633
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: gonna make the most start. But amar Ra, okay, you lost,

634
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: you lost, you know your coordinator, but you're not the quarterback.

635
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: So I just.

636
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Speaker 1: I have nothing bad to say about tomorrow, say Brown,

637
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: I mean to just move around.

638
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: You have you have any responsible I just don't defend

639
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: myself when he said I was down on ear two,

640
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: that's not necessarily.

641
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: It might have been three.

642
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: It might be it was one hundred percent ear two. Uh,

643
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: And I do regret that. And what I was saying was,

644
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: you know, he's probably gonna have a ship ton of

645
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: receptions in yards, but it's hard to see him improving

646
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: too much in the touchdown department. So I was saying,

647
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: I kind of lean under five and a half or

648
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: city touchdowns, and he scored six, so fuck me. But

649
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: but since then, since then, he's scored double digits and

650
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: back to back seasons. Obviously he's a top five wide receiver.

651
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: But again, the twelve receiving touchdowns last season, I think

652
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: we will see some aggression there. I have him, you know,

653
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: around eight and a half, like you there's really not

654
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: much to poke holes in his game right now. But again,

655
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: like if player like Jamison Williams takes an even big

656
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: bigger leap in year four and Laporta he did kind

657
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: of have a down season, I just think this could

658
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: be a little bit more spread out.

659
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: But I am not saying fade him at all in

660
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 4: this range.

661
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: Again, I think just getting any like any combination of

662
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: these top twelve receivers. If you get two of these

663
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: guys to start the draft, I'm happy. So I think

664
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: he's going right round the time. I would draft him.

665
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: And you know, again no holds the poke in his

666
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: game whatsoever. He's he has one of the highest floors

667
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 3: certainly in this range. So definitely willing to take him here.

668
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, who said, you know, there's like the uh

669
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: I think we were talking about CMC and you're like,

670
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, there's the sweaty neck beer or something that.

671
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: Would just say okay the name of the IQ chart. Yeah.

672
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

673
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: With the monorod, I feel like it's just everyone there's

674
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: no real way to dissent with a mon ride. This

675
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: guy three straight years between one hundred and six and

676
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: one hundred and nineteen receptions between eleven sixty one and

677
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen in terms of the yardage between six and

678
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: twelve touchdown catches and uh no more than one missed

679
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: game in any of his four year career. I mean

680
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: that's about as good as it gets at this range

681
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: in the draft. I think that's why he's so valuable

682
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: to me because I think, if you know, we've kind

683
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: of seen this before, where.

684
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: If a guy like a JMO take a step.

685
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: Forward, that doesn't necessarily mean that the guy in front

686
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: of him will take a step back. It could mean

687
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: more for like a guy like what Porta. You know,

688
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: he might take a step back. It might not be

689
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: a both, but usually it's gonna affect the guys under you.

690
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: So I just I really don't see a floor I

691
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: mean a yeah, like a floor case for a.

692
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: Mon Raw barring injury.

693
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: And now you know, maybe I guess you could say

694
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: their backup quarterback situation because there's no more Teddy b there.

695
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: But Jared GoF tends to not get hurt, so true.

696
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Fingers crossed to who got next? Oh yes, oh h yeah.

697
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Thomas junior wide receiver eight in Yahoo, My wide

698
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: receiver five.

699
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: He's a lot He's a top five receiver to me.

700
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: In this lean cone offense. I saw what I needed

701
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: to see in pre season week one with Thomas moving

702
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: all around the offense. Uh playing still playing more snaps

703
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: than Hunter, but they're moving fast, they're smarter. The play

704
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: cones already looked better. So this is another guy for me.

705
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: Wide receiver one, overall upside ceiling score, he has it all.

706
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: You were the biggest member of the Brian Thomas fan club,

707
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: so I'll let you just take them here.

708
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, I'm right there with you. I have

709
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 3: him wide receiver five. And I was very high as

710
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: a rookie. I couldn't like see anybody else in his

711
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: game than Randy Moss. And he's like the same height, weight, combo,

712
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: speed combo. Again, Randy Moss had that skill set twenty

713
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: years ago, so imagine that twenty years ago. But yeah,

714
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: he's a lock for me inside my top five. You know,

715
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: should be better in year two, should be better. And

716
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: this Liam Cohen led offense, and like you said, loved

717
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 3: his preseason week one usage. Obviously it was a limited

718
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: sample there, but he did run out of the slot

719
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: forty of the time, and last year he had the

720
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: highest Fantasy points per slot route run and the only

721
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: he ran out of the slot twenty eight percent of

722
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: the time. So if we see that big of a jump,

723
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just going to open things up even

724
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: more for him. And if you look at slot receivers

725
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: and Liam cohen offenses, there's not much to go off of.

726
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: But last year Chris Codwin was the wide receiver two

727
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 3: overall before he went down, and then Cooper Cup back

728
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, Liam Cohne was offensive coordinator. Obviously

729
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: that's just Sean mcvay's offense, but that's when you know

730
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup had that wide receiver one overall year. So

731
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior absolutely has a wide receiver one overall

732
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 3: potential this year. And yeah, I have him wide receiver five,

733
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: but you can still get him, you know, wide receiver eight.

734
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: He's fallen to wide receiver nine. So just taking him

735
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: at cost I think provides, you know, even more room

736
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: to grow. So love getting Brian Thomas Junior at the

737
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: end of round one if I can.

738
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would take him above costs, like I would

739
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: honestly take him second overall and have no problem with it.

740
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: Like after Jamar Chase.

741
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: If you're yeah, if you're forced to like, he's not

742
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: going to make it back to you, like, what the hell?

743
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: You have nothing to lose? Yeah, yep, I could. I

744
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: can get behind that because you know.

745
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: What he does have potentially, is he has that potential

746
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: for that that bad defense, like uh like a Jamar Chase.

747
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like every did you see that

748
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: Jags uh Steelers preseason? I feel like their defensive coordinator

749
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: just had the worst body language.

750
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: But it's because of how his defense was playing.

751
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: And I know it's you know, it's backs, but they

752
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: were playing you know, they were trying to get situated,

753
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: and I mean he was just just.

754
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: Scowling and frowning. And it could be a long year

755
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: for the Jags defense.

756
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, they do have some talent, so maybe

757
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: maybe they put things together. Like I said about a

758
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: backup playing in the preseason, But I think that's the

759
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: best chance you have for that kind of situation because

760
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: Detroit kind of seems like it's gonna be a bad defense,

761
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: but they actually have they have some guys there. Yeah,

762
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: that Lions did so they can surprise again. All right,

763
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: Next up, we got Drake London at wide receiver nine,

764
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: another guy that I'm fine taking him above that, you know,

765
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: above where he's going. I have him wide receiver seven.

766
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: So I have Brian Thomas Junior Pokakua at three, then

767
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: Lamb Thomas Monroe, Drake London, and then Malik Neighbors and Nico.

768
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: So I guess I'm low on Neighbors in Nico, but

769
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: I love the value on Drake London.

770
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: I mean, another guy. What are the holes we're poking

771
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: in his game? I think? I mean, I.

772
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: Guess if you don't believe in in Michael Penick Jr.

773
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: I do.

774
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: I think he can deliver the ball, probably even better

775
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: than Cousins last year over a full season.

776
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: What say you about London?

777
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

778
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 3: I agree, I think Pennix is going to help Drake

779
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: London compared to Kirk Cousins last last season's version of

780
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins. You know, you just look at the three

781
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: games that London played with Pennix when he started the

782
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: end of the season, he was wide receiver one.

783
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: Overall that you know, what more do we have to say?

784
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 3: And if you look at that stretch, he averaged nineteen

785
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: point four points per game in half PPR that would

786
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: have ranked you know, wide receiver two overall, just behind

787
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. So we've already seen his upside is real.

788
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: With Pennix, Penis is more willing to throw downfield. London's

789
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: the kind of receiver that can win anywhere. So if

790
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: he's getting more downfield shuts, you know he's just going

791
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: to get those explosive plays along with you know, the

792
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: more high percentage looks over the middle, so you know

793
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: he's still ascending. He's still entering his prime in my opinion.

794
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: So yeah, taking him at wide receiver nine is right.

795
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: That's right where I have him, and that's right where

796
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: he goes and drafts, and that's right where I want

797
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: to take him if I can get him.

798
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, I have no problem taking him

799
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: to the top seven guy. And after a mon like

800
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: even I could put London as high as six. I

801
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: can make the case for London over a guy like

802
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: a Manra just because you know you did as you

803
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: wait out the Lions do have I would say, a

804
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: fiercer competition for targets. Now, you know man Ray has

805
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: that that slot role where you kind of just hog them.

806
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 1: But London, I think, to your point, has the best

807
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: of both worlds. We're not worried about the quarterback play

808
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: a lot of indoor games against shaky defenses, and the

809
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: potential would just be a monster target hog. If if

810
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: Darnold Mooney's injury to his shoulder, lingers too, because you

811
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: got Rayvery McCloud, who you know overachieved last year. But

812
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be running ninety percent of the routes

813
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: alongside London, you'll take that all day. And then you

814
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: got Pits at tight end, another one of those guys

815
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: where it's yeah, you'll take that all day. And Bijon

816
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: is uh, you know, he's a running back. He's only

817
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna eat into anybody receiving usage so much, even when

818
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: he's a high end receiving back. So yeah, love love,

819
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 1: love love London love. Yeah, really love this whole tier.

820
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

821
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: Neighbors again, we're not really like slamming too too many

822
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: players were kind of concerned about neighbors to injury. The

823
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: reason I'm so high on everybody is this is these

824
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 3: are the guys I want. I want to be drafting

825
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: wide receivers early and often, so I'm not really telling

826
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: you to fade any of these guys because I think

827
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 3: the rankings are pretty good right now. But again, I'm

828
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: just trying to get two of these guys if I can,

829
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: you know, certainly mixing a stud running back, if that

830
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 3: makes sense. But all these guys I think are worthy

831
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: of a pick in the first couple of rounds.

832
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you that was a tease

833
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: for us talking examer Worthy next, but he's not ranked

834
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: that high, so I can't go there.

835
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, I time to agree with you.

836
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's I think I think Nico

837
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: the more I'm looking at it, you know, he's even

838
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: after Neighbors for me and I just with the you know,

839
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: the combination of the myth time o line kind of

840
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: potentially capping his upside the up and down performances from Stroud,

841
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator. That that's another guy like I'm

842
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: I'm more in the down camp. I would say that

843
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm probably comfortable with. But you can't be high on everybody.

844
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: That's the thing you got to You gotta kind of

845
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: pick your spots here. So I would say, if it's

846
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: down to Niko or Neighbors for me, that's when you know,

847
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: we talked about guys were starting to like more at

848
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: running back, Kyen Williams, Chase Brown, Jonathan Taylor.

849
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: I don't mind going with those guys in that spot.

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867
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: kind of flies under the radar. He's, like you mentioned earlier,

868
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: he had that amazing stretch and pretty much every year

869
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: he has an amazing stretch at some point, very consistent

870
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: in a low volume pass offense. Though, do you think

871
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: we see some regression? Do you think he gets hurt

872
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: by the fact that he did play a bunch of

873
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: games with no Devonte Smith or Goddard last year? I mean,

874
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: how are you handicapping AJB heading in to Yeah, I.

875
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 3: Think we definitely see some positive regressions in terms of

876
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: the passing volume. I mean, the Eagles, they're still going

877
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: to be a very run heavy team. Saquon Barkley is

878
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: still going to be very good, but probably not to

879
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: the extremely saw last year, and you've talked about that.

880
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 4: I agree.

881
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: I think that we're going to see a little bit

882
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: more passing volume and Sagon Barkley probably won't have as

883
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: many seventy plus yard touchdown runs which wipe out entire drives.

884
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: So you know that's going to help someone like a

885
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: j Brown out. And despite all that from last season,

886
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: he was twelve and points per game, So we're kind

887
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 3: of that's that's kind of like representatives floor in my opinion,

888
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: just based on the situation last year. And again I

889
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: was referring to Jamar Chase at the top, but I

890
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: went back and I looked at A. J. Brown's just

891
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: ridiculous six to seven week stretch back in twenty twenty three.

892
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he just went absolutely bonkers where he was

893
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: the number one wide receiver, Like, if they just throw

894
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: a little bit more, that's the kind of upside we

895
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: could see with him. So yeah, that's why I love

896
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: getting him outside of the top ten if he does

897
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: fall there, and he's an interesting wide receiver where a

898
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: lot of these wide receivers, if the quarterback goes down, yes,

899
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: they're gonna be QB proof and their value is not

900
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: going to take too much of a hit. With AJ Brown,

901
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: if Jalen Hurts or Sekwon Barkley miss time, you know

902
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 3: his value is going to go up. You know, if

903
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: you watch Tanner McKee over the weekend, he just continues

904
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: to prove that he might be one of the best

905
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: backup quarterbacks in the league. So if he has to

906
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 3: make a spot start or two, I'd actually move AJ

907
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: Brown up in my weekly projections because Tanner mrickey is

908
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: probably gonna throw more, the offense will probably change to

909
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: where you know, they're laying on his arm a bit

910
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: more than even Jalen Hurts, So AJ Brown's kind of

911
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: a rare wide receiver, one where he's not only QB proof,

912
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: but if the backups in his value could even go

913
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: up a little bit. So that's why I'm bullish on

914
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 3: getting AJ Brown. If he does fall outside of the

915
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: top ten, yeah.

916
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: It's not I don't know if it's as like sexy

917
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: as a pick anymore. He's gonna be twenty eight. Know

918
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: what he can do, but he's gonna do it every year.

919
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna just put up, you know, at least six

920
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. He's gonna get his thousand to fifteen hundred

921
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: yards and the talent is there.

922
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: There's another guy, no real host to po Key.

923
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: I would say he's a he's a little bit more

924
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: at least as you know, as long as se Quon's healthy,

925
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: have a little bit more of a floor play, you know,

926
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: in this range. But again there's no there's no real

927
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: problem with that, and he does have the ceiling. But

928
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: I think there is some upside for her Hurts throwing

929
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: the ball a lot more than we've seen because that

930
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: was more of a colored more thing than anything last year.

931
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: I mean, Hurts had never been.

932
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: Kind of I don't want to say hidden, but you know,

933
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: capped volume was to that extent thirty one point six

934
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: attempts per game in twenty twenty three, thirty point seven

935
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: the year before that, and he dropped to twenty four

936
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: point one last year. So that was a pretty big

937
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: talk about the Lions scoring seven points. So it hurts

938
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: had seven and a half fewer attempts last year than

939
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: the year before. So some nice room for regression. And yeah,

940
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: A J.

941
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 2: Brown is my wide receiver ten as well.

942
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Next up, another one of my favorites. Though this saving

943
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: room behind him is getting really interesting. Ladd McConkey, I'm

944
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: just gonna I think we know how good he is already,

945
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: so let's just jump to the point. Does the Keenan

946
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: Allen signing affect Lad at all? And I only asked

947
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: that because Keenan is also known for playing the same

948
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: kind of inside outside role.

949
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: Uh No, I don't think it affects his value as

950
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 3: much as the market seems to think. I saw everybody

951
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 3: kind of freaking out about this, but I was really

952
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 3: high on him as a rookie as well because of

953
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: the landing spot to the Chargers, where you know they

954
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: moved on from Keenan Allen at the time, Mike Williams

955
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 3: and Austin Eckler, So that was a ton of available targets.

956
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: And I said that Lad can win anywhere on the field,

957
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: so he's going to pick up, you know, a lot

958
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: of those targets. So the fact that they brought in

959
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen, yes, it might bump Lad to the outside

960
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: a bit more, but he can He can be a

961
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: really good outside receiver. He can win downfield, he could

962
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 3: win anywhere. So you know, maybe Keenan helps open things

963
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: up for Lad. You know, if anything this is really

964
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 3: hurts the depth guys, you know, like a Trey Harris,

965
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: a KeAndre Lambert Smith or Quintin Johnson, not if his

966
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: stock could go any lower. But I think those are

967
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: the guys that Keenan Allen impacts because of playing time.

968
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: You know, Keenan Allen's gonna take playing time away from

969
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 3: those guys. But I don't think he's really gonna eat

970
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 3: in the Lad's target percentage much at all, because Lad

971
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 3: has already proven to be you know, elite number one

972
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: ride receiver in this offense. So I haven't really moved

973
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: him at all, but the ADP has moved you know,

974
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: Ladd down a slaughter or two ever since the signing,

975
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: I just don't see it, I think of anything. It

976
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: just represents, you know, kind of a Bilo spot for

977
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: lad totally.

978
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: Conky is so good at getting open that and we're

979
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: worried about Keenan Allen, who was unsigned until just now

980
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: until you know, bid with early August.

981
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: Essentially that Keenan Allen, Like this almost reminds.

982
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: Me a little bit of the what I thought about

983
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: green Bay, what I thought green Bay thought about their

984
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: receivers last year, Like they were obviously telling us they

985
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: didn't like their receivers as much as maybe we thought.

986
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: And it's kind of the same deal with the Chargers.

987
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they brought in Mike Williams, they're trying

988
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: to get the whole band back together. Then he decides

989
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: to retire. He's like a fuck this, and then they

990
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: go and get Keenan Allen, who's now Who's like.

991
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we gonna do next?

992
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: Get uh, say you Jared Tutu or somebody like this.

993
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: Is uh, you know, Crosskey Merritt and Deebo, Samuel and Washington.

994
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 4: Let's just bring Austin that quarter back while we're at it.

995
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.

996
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: Now they love they love their Hassan Haskin, Jared past Erson,

997
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: Kimani Vidal, black hole too much to uh that, but yeah, no,

998
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: it's uh. I mean you think if lad mccontie wasn't white,

999
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: that his ADP would have been dropping like that.

1000
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go there. You tell me, what do

1001
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 4: you think?

1002
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: I think could play a role, could play a role,

1003
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: could play role. It should, but it could. Jackson Smith

1004
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: and Jigbook is not the number twelve should be cut

1005
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: that he should be Yeah, that's like, yeah, I don't

1006
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: even cut that.

1007
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: I forget. I'm looking at my ranks now. I'm just

1008
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: all right next time. Yeah, but no, T Higgins.

1009
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about T Higgins is another guy

1010
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: who we know what we're gonna expect, but he is

1011
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: making it a habit of missing games.

1012
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 2: You're in, year out.

1013
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: He does have Jamar Chase in front of him, and

1014
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: I think you and I talked about Joe Burrow could

1015
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: have an a weak season and that be you know,

1016
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: the the mid four thousands and thirty five touchdowns instead

1017
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: of of you know, five k yards and you know,

1018
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: up over forty so I think T. Higgins kind of

1019
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: similar to a good Davante adafactate. There's one guy of

1020
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: the elite that are gonna take a you know, is

1021
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: more risky than the other. It's going to be that

1022
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: the number two guy for me.

1023
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: So I have T.

1024
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Higgins a wide receiver thirteen. So I'm one spot, one

1025
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: spot down.

1026
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 4: He's a.

1027
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: He's a he's a second podcast guy for me.

1028
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: What about you, right same? Yeah, he's my wide receiver

1029
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 3: thirteen as well. I do have Jackson Smith Zibez my

1030
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: wire receiver twelve right now. Hey, But I think, you know,

1031
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: when it comes to Higgins, I think people are kind

1032
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: of down on him because he has missed you know,

1033
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: a handful of games now in back to back seasons.

1034
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: But everyone's susceptible to injuries. I don't think it necessarily

1035
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: means that he's gonna miss time this year. I think

1036
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: he's just kind of with everybody else, you'd project them

1037
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: to mess one or two games on average. So I'm

1038
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 3: not down because of that. When he is healthy, he produces,

1039
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: and I think that's all that matters. He was fourth

1040
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: in points per game last season, and I think the

1041
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: important thing is, yes, he's you know, the number two

1042
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: receiver in that offense, but he's still attached to Joe

1043
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: Burrow and this Bengals pass heavy offense, so he benefits

1044
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: from that. He benefits from Jamar Chase being so freaking good,

1045
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: and Higgins is really good in himself. So yeah, like,

1046
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: you know, he's my wide receiver thirteen. There's certainly times

1047
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 3: I take him there. I really have no qualms with T.

1048
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 4: Higgins.

1049
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 3: If he can stay healthy, you know, he's potentially a

1050
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: top ten receiver, but I think his ceiling is kind

1051
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: of cap win Chase is healthy, but I don't think

1052
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: that's the reason to kind of pass up on him here.

1053
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 4: But I'm pretty much.

1054
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 3: In line with him right around here, being you know,

1055
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: a high end wide receiver two.

1056
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of.

1057
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: A natural break where if you got two receivers already,

1058
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: you're not running out to draft T.

1059
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: Higgins as your.

1060
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: Wide receiver three when he's the number two on his

1061
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: own team. Necessarily, he's more of a guy where you're

1062
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: you're a lot happier to get him, you know, as

1063
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: your wide receiver one in round three or your wide

1064
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: receiver two, you know, something like that.

1065
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: But if you already have two. I don't think.

1066
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of a natural break where you

1067
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: don't need to keep hammering. Sometimes you don't even get

1068
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: that chance. It really depends on the league, but yeah,

1069
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: that's there's no real host to poking his game. It's

1070
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: just a matter of does he stay healthy, does Chase

1071
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: get hurt in front of him, which would give him,

1072
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, that massive upside as well. So, uh, he's

1073
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: kind of locked in there. And then then we get

1074
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: start to get a little little shaky outside of the

1075
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: guy that I guess will lead off the next Fantasy

1076
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: Fox pod with, So I'll leave it at that.

1077
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: Make sure you lock it in.

1078
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: Part two is gonna be out soon, where we're gonna

1079
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: go over the wide receivers thirteen to twenty four and

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