1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: What might be my goat now, Yeah, look it up. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about this off court numbers. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, off court numbers apparently. I'm just saying they're allegedly legendary. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 3: That's why. 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 4: Play the game man. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 5: He could do all of that and still go out 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 5: and get forty four sixty four. 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: Just saying, what's up? 9 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 4: Everybody. 10 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Roommates of Playmaker Original, 11 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: where the vibes and my introductions are always immaculate. Today 12 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: we have the NBA Hall of Famer, seven time All Star, 13 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: two time champion with the Knicks jerseys hanging in the rafters. 14 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: Y'all hear him observing and preserving on a nightly basis 15 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: on the broadcast the Legend Walk. Clive Frasier, we appreciate 16 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: you coming onto the podcast. 17 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 5: Oh my pleasure man, and on behalf of the former players. 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 5: I like to say, thanks what you guys are doing 19 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 5: for us. We're very proud of you your success and 20 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 5: obviously good luck in the playoffs. 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: Clive, one question for you. You've gone on our record saying well, 22 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: that's the best case for goat. 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: Why is that? 24 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 5: Because without Will Chamberlain it might not be an NBA. 25 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 5: Will Chamblin is the only guy people knew. 26 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 4: Man. I'm talking in nineteen seventy we used to fly commercial. 27 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: You go through an. 28 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 5: Airport, they go, are you the Globetrotters or Will Chamberlain. 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: That's the only people they do. We were the Knicks. 30 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 5: Nobody knows that man. So without Will Chamberlain, man and 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 5: Bill Russell, that wouldn't be an NBA today. I don't 32 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 5: know you, No Jordan the Fraser anybody. So he was 33 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: the guy who brought people to the sands and promoted 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 5: the game. You know so, and then you look at 35 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 5: his records, they're hilarious. Man, come on, nobody come close 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 5: to it. They go, Michael Jordan has done this so 37 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: many times other than Will chamban Will has done it 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 5: fifty times. 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 4: Whatever the record you have, this man is literated. Twenty 40 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: five Yeah, right, one hundred points in one game? Come on, man, 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: block shot? 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: Do you what are your thoughts when people said the 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: hundred point game isn't real? 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 4: No, it's real. 45 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: I agree with it. I think it's real. But I've 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: seen it all the time that people are like, there's 47 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: no film, there's no this, no that, like the hundred 48 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: point game is a fluke. 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 5: No, No, it was real. You know, in those days, 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 5: they didn't cover the games like they do. Know, you 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 5: saw he just had a little one hundred paper holding 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 5: up like that. It wasn't all the hoopla that we 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 5: have today. So the guy was he's the only man 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 5: to ever play the game. Come on, man, everage fifty 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 5: points a game for a whole season. 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: Come on, man, There's been like there's been like very 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: like like short clips of like seeing him running down 58 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: the court, and like how how it looked, how like athletic, 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: and like how he moved it, you know, even obviously 60 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: those like small sumu sizing like you know, five second clips, 61 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: it looked like he just he moved so much different. 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 5: Than he was an athlete. Man, he's a high jumper, 63 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: all kinds of stuff in the track volleyball. But his 64 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 5: weakness was he had to block a shot. He had to, 65 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 5: you know, to go down and go up. So Bill 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: Russell didn't. Bill Russell could stand straight up and. 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: Block you shot. You know. That's why he was a 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: better shot blocker than. 69 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: Will because when you get Will, you faking the shot 70 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: and he goes into squat, you can get the shot 71 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 5: off yeah, but Bill Russell just be standing looking at you. 72 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: But those two. 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 5: Guys, you know, whenever they played, it was always to 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 5: sell our crowd. They were you know when I was 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: growing up, That's why I followed basketball. Will Chamberlain, this 76 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 5: guy played every minute of every game one season, so 77 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: one a few games went into overtime, so you would 78 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 5: know that he averaged more than forty eight minutes. 79 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: Come on, man, where they would they. 80 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: Would have loved They would have loved tips that like 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: then they killed tips for that. Now they would have 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: loved tips and none. 83 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 5: This guy got so many NBA records. Man, I'm not 84 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 5: demeaning Jordan or any the other guys, man, but this guy, 85 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 5: you know, like, to me, football is Jim Brown. 86 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 4: You know I saw Jim Brown play. Man. Nobody was 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 4: like that. 88 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: Man. 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: Guys were afraid to tackle him. Man. 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was so dumbinant. You know, baseball, it should 91 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 5: have been Hank Aaron, but he didn't play in New York. 92 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 5: He didn't get the exposure, you know, so they still 93 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 5: talk about Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantles. You know, Willie 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 5: made is there too. It was a phenomenal player. But 95 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 5: one of these guys did what we'll chame. We'll chamblain 96 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: change the lane. The lane, okay, George Mike, and the 97 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 5: lane used to be three feet, they moved to six. Right, 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 5: George Mike, and is posting side. That's why they call 99 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 5: it the key hole because it comes like the old 100 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 5: fashioned key hole. And then Will Chamberlain, they moved it 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 5: to eight to try to deny him. That's why it 102 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 5: is where it is now, because we'll change. Okay, Goltending 103 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: used to shoot the ball. Will Chamblan just jump up 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: and grab it out of the air. They added because 105 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 5: of right right, or they just throw the ball up 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 5: to the basket and he just funneled it into the 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 5: basket man like that. That's why they changed that. The 108 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 5: goldtending rule. So all these different rules because of this guy. 109 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: Damn what might be my goat? 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: Now? 111 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, look it up. 112 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: I we're not even talking about his off court numbers. 113 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was off court under the parents. I'm just 114 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: saying they're allegedly legend. That's why he's take you my 115 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: government to play the game. 116 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: Man. 117 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 5: He can do all of that and still go out 118 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 5: and get forty sixty four. 119 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 4: Saying. 120 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: I guess I'm the mature one here today for once. 121 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: Usually it's not. Man, I love catching. 122 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: Say everything I just said. 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: You agreed, I said, allegedly, they're legendary. 124 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: Clad agree to everyone agreed. 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 5: My greatest team is the sixty seven sixty eight six ers, 126 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 5: Jam and Wally Jones, Hal Grill, Billy Conningham. Yeah, those 127 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 5: guys are the greatest team I ever saw. 128 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 4: They kick you, but it's still weird. Man. They were 129 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: so physical. 130 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: That's that's that's your greatest team ever. 131 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: I feel like you got something to say, because no, 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't have to double down on it. 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: No, No, I was was it I was saying, was 134 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: that his favorite team was his great his greatest. I 135 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: was just clarifying. Don't look at me like that. I 136 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: had nothing to say. I make it have his own opinion. 137 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: You have the greatest team? Who do you think is 138 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: the greatest thing? 139 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: Who is my goodest team? There's a lot of teams 140 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: you could choose from. Obviously this era, people will say 141 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: the Warriors, but like, I don't know something about something 142 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: about that three peat, Lakers and also. 143 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: Three different teams technically, well. 144 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: I said, you could say any Warriors team, so that 145 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: can be any Warriors team. 146 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: Right here obviously. 147 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: I mean you're pissing me off today. 148 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we want you to be specific. 149 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: If I had to choose, I would pick sixteen seventeen 150 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: Warriors or seventeen eighteen Warriors, whichever one. No, the seventy 151 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: three win team and they lost, so they lost that year. 152 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: So it doesn't coup seventy two win Bulls or the 153 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: old one Lakers for me. 154 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: What about what's your best team post nineteen ninety? 155 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: I would go with Jordans those guys. 156 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I don't know how you grant. 157 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: Can't like, you can't argue. 158 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: You can't go into the game. But ah, we got 159 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: a chance today. 160 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: Like, no, you got five losses in sixty games. 161 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: You have five losses and but no, Josh, we got 162 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: Tommy John second skin, mischief. Feel confident, comfortable. I just 163 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: can't go a day without learning this stuff. 164 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: Man. 165 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: It's just amazing your thoughts on that. 166 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: For me, Man, it's comfortable, it's lightweight. The biggest thing 167 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: for me, it doesn't ride up your leg. I think 168 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: that's the biggest thing. I like being comfortable. I hate 169 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: boxers right up your lay. You gotta pull them down 170 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: doing all that. 171 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: I like. 172 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: I love these because they don't ride up the comfortable 173 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: to lightweight man, So shut up, Tom John. 174 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: Is how many times you're gonna say that they don't 175 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: ride up? 176 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: They don't ride up? I said it three times. You're 177 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: doing a promotion promotion, promotion promotion. 178 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: What's so funny. 179 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: I'm just happy that I found boxer that don't ride up. 180 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: Get twenty percent off your first order right now at 181 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: tom of john dot com slash Roomies. 182 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: Make sure you get a pair of Tommy John's. 183 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: Today is the Warriors dynasty as we know it over? 184 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Are we going to see them together again? There's just 185 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: getting bounced into plan and the dynasty. 186 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. 187 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: I would say, Matt's trying to get us a clip. 188 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: He is trying to get us a clip. 189 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 5: Sorry, we don't answer today's analytics. You're done, man, They're 190 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 5: done the day's analytics. They're gonna look at the apolitics. 191 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 5: They but we gotta move out, we gotta change. You're 192 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 5: not gonna rerun and redo it. I don't think they're 193 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 5: gonna break it up. 194 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: I would say yes, but if there is a team 195 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: to like say like, all right, we want to give 196 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: these guys like the proper way out. We want to 197 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: retire Warriors, and I mean that's another way to do it. Sure, 198 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: because they've obviously done so much for what they are 199 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: now like the the number one team and revenue wise 200 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: or whatever most expensive NBA team whatever. 201 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it all depends on like what. 202 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: What they want to do. Yeah, there's no complete answer. 203 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: If it was any other team that obviously didn't do 204 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: what they did, they'd be done right, But they won 205 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: four chips, like you gotta kind of respect that. 206 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: Give them a nice soft landing. I mean they're Yeah, 207 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: makes sense. Best team in the moundern Era for sure. 208 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: On the front officers, ever, a shout out to I 209 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: feel like the front office is one of the greatest 210 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: front offices in the mound are too. 211 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: Not just a guy who did that is gone. 212 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: I would say that's the reason why they left because 213 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: maybe not coming to an end, but like he probably 214 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: didn't want to make that decision. That's a tough decision 215 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: to make. Yeah, I mean need a it's a tough 216 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: decision business sitting in the business. That's why maybe that's 217 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: the reason why he was like out business man. Sometimes 218 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: you don't want to make the tough decisions. Yeah, that's 219 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: all for sure. 220 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: What would you have said in the seventies if someone 221 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: told you that in fifty years there would be someone 222 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: who's seven to four, plays like a guard and pulls 223 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: up from thirty feet. 224 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't have been able to fathom that. 225 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: There's the big guys didn't shoot the ball back then, 226 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 5: you know, they just posted inside. Wilt, Will Russell, you know, Jabbar, 227 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 5: all these guys never came under perimeter. So I would 228 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 5: have never seen the game evolving that way. And the 229 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 5: plus students, they the size of the players. You know 230 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 5: what they can do man six tier and sixty eleven, 231 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: they are doing that what we were doing at sixty 232 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 5: three and six four. So it's been an incredible change 233 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 5: to the game. 234 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: What have been some of the other biggest changes. I mean, 235 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: obviously the three ball, right, the sheer amount was. 236 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 5: The biggest impact on the game because we always had 237 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 5: like Frasier and Reed, you know West and Chamberlain, you 238 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 5: know Russell and Havlerchick, all these teams that won the championship. 239 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: You always had the good guard and the good big man. 240 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 5: So now they are looking at the three big guys, 241 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 5: you know, nobody's looking at. So it's gonna be interesting 242 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 5: now with you guys with Embiid, you know, being the 243 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 5: big guy and what's the other guard that MAXI see, 244 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 5: So those two guys are now going to be in 245 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 5: that position to try. They're averaging, like combining for sixty 246 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 5: points a game, you know, So that's more like when 247 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 5: we played the big guy and the little guy would 248 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 5: be having a lot of points. So it's gonna be 249 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 5: something to do with. 250 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: If you're a basketball junkie, then you know, there's no 251 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 3: better time than the NBA playoffs. 252 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: Twice a week, JJ Reddick is cooking on his podcast, 253 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: The Old Man in the Three. 254 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 3: He has guys come on the show at all different 255 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: stages of the career talking about all the stories that 256 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,119 Speaker 3: they've went through as an NBA. 257 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: Player, Luca Tyreus Halliburton, Devin Booker, even We've been on there, 258 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: but my episode was definitely better. 259 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: In addition to player interviews, JJ every Monday talks about 260 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: the top three things that happened in the NBA that week, 261 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: including having analysis some master minds at Tim Lagler and more. 262 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: We need a break down on every Josh Hart technical 263 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: and or kick to the back of the head. 264 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: You want to find another outlet the covers game as 265 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: comprehensively as JJ does on. 266 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: The Old Man in the three mak this your companion 267 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: podcast during the playoffs. 268 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: Listen to Old Man end of three ad free on 269 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: Wandery Plus or wherever you get your podcasts. 270 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: This is a stat camp pulled, but in the entire 271 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties there was nineteen forty two three pointers made, 272 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: and the twenty twenty three twenty twenty four season there 273 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: was thirty one and twenty one. 274 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, lord, almost every shot is a three today, to. 275 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: The point where if it's along too you kind of 276 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: get scolded a little bit, right, like that's a bad shot. 277 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 3: Bad shot? 278 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, how do you feel because like the analytics, right, 279 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: the analytics is basically threes and layups. But like someone 280 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: who's played in the NBA, who's watched the NBA for 281 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: how many years? Like, what are your thoughts on that? 282 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: Are you like, a good shot is a good shot 283 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: or are you well. 284 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: See, I see a guy like DeRozan, you know he's 285 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 5: got the mid range game in his repertoire Durant, So 286 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 5: a lot of these guys think I don't think you 287 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 5: should ignore the two ball. If you if you're in 288 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: that scenario, shoot it. I think you should have that versatility. 289 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: I feel like so many people take away their game 290 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: plan like take away threes and take away layups, and 291 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: so they're giving you twos. At some point during the game, 292 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a close and you're gonna need to 293 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: make that shot. Yeah, so is it the shot you 294 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: come down the shoot every time? No, but you gotta 295 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: learn how to make it. I don't think it should 296 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: just be like wiped out right. I mean you look 297 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: at two of the greatest scores ever, like MJ and. 298 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: Kobe, Like if they get to the elbow. 299 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: It's going over. That's there. Go back on defense. 300 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's a mindset today, Like I see guys 301 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: in the paint and they don't even look to shoot. 302 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 5: They throw it out footy three. Man, they're right underneath 303 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 5: the baskets. So but all the teams do that. Everybody 304 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 5: does that. 305 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: So like I mean, I don't know, I feel like 306 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: it's like drastic, like the change has been drastic. It's 307 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: like you have coaches. They have coaches saying like yo, no, 308 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: two's like no mid ranges, do not shoot them. And 309 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: then at some point you're gonna be in a close game, 310 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: that SHOT's gonna be wide open, and you haven't taken 311 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: one rep event all year, and then you go to 312 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: shooting and it's not going to win because you're uncomfortable 313 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: shooting the shot. So I just I might saying like 314 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: I said, not shoot it all the time, but you 315 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: got to work on all different types of shots in 316 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: different parts of the court and to add to your 317 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: game because you never know when you're gonna need it. 318 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 5: See that philosophy is a detriment because I see guys 319 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 5: with the one shot they only need two points, they 320 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 5: don't need three, and they're taking the three ball. Really 321 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 5: than you only need to man to win the game. 322 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 5: It's two gotta be an easier shot, it seems to me. 323 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: But if you come to the game early, you never 324 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: see anybody shooting towos. Everybody's shooting the three ball. That's 325 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 5: it the game. But I'm amazed how these guys do it. Man, 326 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 5: it's just an incredible the range. You know, what did 327 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 5: they shoot with today? 328 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: You've sat that No, I was gonna say the range, 329 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: and then like the mechanics sometimes like we have practice 330 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: today and I forgot some went through like a cross 331 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 2: court like skip past the boat to bogie. He just 332 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: caught it, no dip, just caught it, went straight up 333 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: with it, and it was it was like, bro, that's. 334 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think we looked. Look yeah, we walked, 335 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: looked at each other. 336 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: We're like it was like that's so tough. It was 337 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: like like whenever like guys catch the ball, you know 338 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: they dip it a little bit, but you know how. 339 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: He caught it right here, yes, like caught the passel here, 340 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 3: looked at the rim, just shot it like yeah it 341 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: was and then cash like it wasn't like a nasty 342 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: make it. 343 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: Was touch room like catch high, stay high. So it's 344 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: just like the mechanics, like the rains that they were 345 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: shooting it at the efficiency and then like how some 346 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: guys are getting it off is just like it's it's 347 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: kind of crazy to see like how like the game 348 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: was just moving towards that. I don't know, you. 349 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: Feel like a lot of that is like steps impact 350 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: on the game. 351 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, everything's the whole analytical now. Everything it's like there's. 352 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 5: Like, well his himn back has been a blessing and 353 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 5: a curse because if you go watch young kids and 354 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 5: everybody's trying to be Steph man, they're not, you know, 355 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: they can't even get the ball up to the hoop 356 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: or even So yeah, yeah, it's been a blessing and 357 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 5: a curse to three balls. So like Jay Lenders saying, 358 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 5: you gotta know when to you know, holding win and 359 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 5: folded man. You know, two balls are just as good, 360 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 5: like in baseball, walker is just as good as it 361 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 5: hit get on base man, you know. But that's the 362 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 5: philosophy that you have to have on the team, that 363 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 5: the coach has to dictate to the players to do that. 364 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: So I wasn't another sh threes when I was young. 365 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 3: I was like when I worked out my dad or 366 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: even in games, like everything was like this two's until 367 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: your form, until like I was old enough to actually 368 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: reach the three point reach meach the rim like comps 369 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 3: away without having like to chuck the ball. So I mean, 370 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: I feel like all these kids that grow up now 371 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: and they have these art kids like they get older 372 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: in their forms, its like not that good because they've 373 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: been chucking the ball since they were like three years 374 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: old to just to like hit the rim. But like well, yeah, 375 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, the kids obviously learn from what they see, 376 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: but like if you're taught in certain manner, I don't 377 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: think that should be issue that. 378 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: It takes out the feel of the game a little bit, 379 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: especially like the analytics, like even like like you see 380 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: like how that is sometimes like some coaches like would 381 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: just not do any like you said no, as I said, 382 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: like sometimes like coaches like I've I've been in a 383 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: situation where not like a couple of years ago, I 384 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 2: played for coach and it was all like like everything 385 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: about like what's on the paper right, It's like time minutes, 386 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: do all that stuff, and it's like I get it, 387 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: Like analytics is I got this person's better with this, 388 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: you know, with this lineup where he's better playing this 389 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: many minutes or whatever it is. But it's like sometimes 390 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: like the analytics takes the feel out the game. It's like, yeah, 391 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: this person might be playing better or normally play better 392 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: with this guy, but it's like he's hit the last 393 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: three shots, Let's leave him in instead of like oh well, 394 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: oh it's three forty seven on the clock. It gotta 395 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: take him out and sell them out, right. I feel 396 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: like the. 397 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 5: Two it's been eight years since he scored twenty points 398 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 5: in the playoff game, and he ran them up with 399 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 5: the three. 400 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: You see, that's what you're talking about. 401 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 5: What did the coach going analytics, He wouldn't even be 402 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 5: in the game exactly right. So you gotta have a feel, man, 403 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 5: That's why. That's why to be a champion, man, it 404 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 5: takes more than than the normal precidere analytics. You know, 405 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 5: like the other night with teams, he didn't put in Robinson, 406 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 5: put in Precious and he came up big. You know, 407 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 5: got to have that feel sometimes, man, what's going on 408 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 5: with the game. 409 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: I feel like like coaches don't get sometimes don't get 410 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: enough credit for when they do things like that. Like 411 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: they get when they take somebody out and they lose, 412 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: but like when they do something like that, like in 413 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: a crucial situation where you have to throw all the 414 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 3: ego out the window and be like I gotta make 415 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 3: a decision based on whether we're gonna win or not, 416 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: and so like, I don't know, sometimes it's tough. It's 417 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: tougher than people think, Like these were grown men and 418 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: you got you take something away from what they're used 419 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: to for the win, and it's just like sometimes enough 420 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 3: credit for that. 421 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember when we had our old podcast? 422 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: Do you remember you made comments about analytics? 423 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: Do you remember that? Yeah? 424 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: I forgot what. 425 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: Josh has been notoriously anti analytics for a while now, 426 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: but we used to have a podcast when Josh is 427 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: on the Lakers, and you made comments about not loving analytics. 428 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: And then between the time that the podcast was recorded 429 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: and when it went live, the Lakers hired Frank Vogel, 430 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: who I guess is very analytics, and they thought that 431 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: Josh was making a comment about Frank Vogel, when in 432 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: reality couldn't have been further from the truth. 433 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 3: So it's just finding how people spun it. 434 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to talk me and Frank had to 435 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: sat down after that one. I got, I got. I 436 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: ain't get in trouble, but I was just I was like, 437 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: I basically like want. I was like the podcast, they 438 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: hired him, He's like, we're going to be very analytical, 439 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna do this, this, this, and this, and then 440 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 2: like two days later my podcast, I'm like, man, I 441 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: hate analytics. Man, anyone who really bases anything off of analytics, 442 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: they're dumb. Then the next day I get I see Frank, 443 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: He's like, Josh, let me holler at you. I'm like, 444 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: oh man, I already know what this is. We had 445 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: to I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, Frank, like this 446 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: was airlight. We recorded this last week. It just happened 447 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: the air at this time. 448 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you had time to change it. That's why we 449 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: have Playmaker. 450 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: Now exactly we're doing that. We were doing that solo 451 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: and that's too much work. I rather you know, just like, yeah, Frank, 452 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: ah my fault out a couple years I didn't mean it. 453 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: Wore Horseman pod. Since retiring, which NBA player has reminded you? 454 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: Reminding you the most of yourself in terms of play 455 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: style and attitude. 456 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: Well, today it's difficult because the game has changed. Guys 457 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 5: are more specialists. Like when I played, I was a guard. 458 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 5: We had to rebound, we had to defend, we had 459 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 5: to do everything. Now you have a point guard who 460 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 5: doesn't shoot, shoot, guard that doesn't dribble, So they specialists. 461 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: Everybody's become somewhat of especialist. So taking away the versatility 462 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 5: of the guys, like like when I played, is. 463 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: There anyone in today's NBA that dresses as well as 464 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: you did. 465 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: You know, I never see the guys. 466 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 5: They're always casual when I see them, so I never 467 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 5: see them when they go out. I hear their style 468 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 5: and profile when they go out, but I've never seen them. 469 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: I'm always I'm always casual. I'm always casual. Actually, I 470 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: got a couple. I got a couple of suits, couples 471 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: that were here and there. Not what he puts on. 472 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 5: But you know, when we played, we used to dress 473 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 5: up every game, trying to outdress our teammates and everything 474 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 5: was all Idols were the Four Tops Temptations. So you guys, 475 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 5: idols are the rappers, so you guys emulate more of 476 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 5: the rappers when you just we were immolating motown. You know, 477 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 5: times we were stepping out when we went on the road. 478 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: Man, we were in New York. 479 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 5: You know, we going to the bar. It be like 480 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 5: the Old West, the music stop. I used to have 481 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: my mink draped over my shoulders. You come in run 482 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 5: the bar, man, you know, everybody. 483 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 4: Be staring at us. You know, we had we had fun. 484 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: Man on the road that loud. 485 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: We should have been back like the bag everything. 486 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: Well, how about Bofoo? Never heard of Boo. 487 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: Hashim chowdry nine. What was your favorite next season that 488 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: you've commented on? 489 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 4: This one? 490 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 5: This one one has the most optimism. Obviously, if random 491 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 5: was there, I'd be a little more optimistic. But I 492 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 5: like the h in nineteen seventy. I said it was 493 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 5: our destiny. You know, Willis Reed been injured in the 494 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 5: way things evolved. If we played the Lakers two more times, 495 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 5: they would have beaten us, but that one game it 496 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 5: all fel in places for us. So I see this 497 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 5: team kind of on a destiny pattern right now. You know, 498 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 5: guys have gone down, but guys have stepped up, so 499 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 5: right there, right there willing to make their legacies, make 500 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: their legacy happen. So as I told them, we were 501 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 5: very proud of them. All the guys that I talked to, 502 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 5: the former players and everything, really follow the team. So 503 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 5: we're very optimistic about what's going to. 504 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: Happen at Nick underscore names Clyde, who on this current 505 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: next team do you wish he could have played with? 506 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 4: Are you in the back, Coode? 507 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 5: I played with a guy named Errol de Pearl we 508 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 5: would consider the best back for whatever. 509 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 4: So you have similar qualities to the Pearl. 510 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: I would enjoy that I would enjoy that, to say 511 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: the least, be much better than playing with him, honestly. 512 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: Big swish. Your favorite food spots in New York or 513 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: your favorite neighborhood in New York. Clyde's been here since 514 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies. He's definitely has some good food wrecks 515 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: or some good wrecks. So what's your favorite food spot? 516 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I used to go to Clydes Wine 517 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 5: and Dying. I had my own place over on thirty 518 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 5: eighth and tenth before it closed. Today, I rarely go 519 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 5: out to eat, you know, I do most of my 520 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 5: own cooking, so I kind of live in Harlem. A 521 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 5: lot of good restaurants there, you know, the Red Rooster, 522 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 5: all these different places. So sometimes I step out and 523 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 5: eat around there. But I'm not a big guy anymore 524 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: getting out on the town. My mind, you know my 525 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 5: styleting profile in at the game? Did I head straight 526 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 5: home after that? 527 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: What's your favorite thing to make? 528 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 4: My favorite thing is pasta and chicken. 529 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: We had that last night, yeah, at Knicks Memes. Who 530 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: is your fashion role model? 531 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: Growing up? 532 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 5: A guy named Dick Barnett, you know he he His 533 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: locker was adjacent to mine, so he's when I'm twenty two, 534 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: he's like thirty. And I see how this guy used 535 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 5: to his diet and exercise, what he used to do 536 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 5: to try to hang on, you know. So he had 537 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: a tremendous impact on me with that. And he was 538 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: also a sharp dresser as well. 539 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: Nick the metfan one favorite teammate playing besides Willis. 540 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 5: Besides Willis was probably Earl the Pearl. You know, he 541 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 5: was my nemesis when he played with the Bullets. But 542 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 5: and ironically when he was traded to the Knicks, they 543 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 5: said it would never work. You know, we need to basketball, 544 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 5: but they overlooked our mutual respect for each other. So 545 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 5: when Earl came to the team, you know, he blended 546 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 5: in and we went on to win our second championship. 547 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 5: So even today we were very close friends as well. 548 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 3: And New Yorker said, Josh and jam would you wear 549 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: Clyde approved suit this playoffs? These playoffs? It would depends. 550 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: I don't think I can pull off one of his 551 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: approved suits. 552 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: I can only do it if you did it. I 553 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: can't do it by myself. 554 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 4: To do it together together, yeah, we have to try 555 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: to break one out. 556 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 5: Man. 557 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: I'll do it for a game for sure, Rginia pull 558 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: up and Clyde approved suits getting out of Tracy Morgan's. 559 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, we. 560 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: Should do that one game either player, I mean suits. 561 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: At that point it would be hard to next season, 562 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: first game, next season, first game, I'll do it. 563 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: SG two one two MSG JB game seven. What Biaber 564 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: song are you playing before? Please don't say baby no, no, 565 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: Baby no Baby. I would say company or somebody. Probably 566 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: company though, because that one goes back to freshman year 567 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: of college, so I'll say company at Knicks memes, what's 568 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: your favorite thing about the other's game? No matter how 569 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: Josh is feeling, how tired, how sore, or whatever, this 570 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: man plays hard every single second he's in the game. 571 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: He can complain practice hard to no, he can complain 572 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: about playing too much, playing too little, but whatever, whatever 573 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: it is, that man is playing hard consistently, and that's 574 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: that's that's hard hard to find in the NBA. 575 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 6: For me, I would say, obviously, there's multiple ball probably 576 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 6: say the the clutchness factor or like the last his 577 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 6: mentality the last three four minutes of the game. 578 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: He's one of the guys that like, as long as 579 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: you know you're in one or two possession game, like 580 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: you know, like you feel good, like you feel confident, 581 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: Like we get a stop, we'll get the ball to him, 582 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: like he'll he'll make the right place, he'll get a bugget, 583 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: he'll get fouled, he'll generate open shots. So that's probably 584 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: my favorite because obviously it goes down to you know, 585 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: winning and you know, you know, yeah, you know, I 586 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: will say, you know, you're not big balls. 587 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: But I was like, maybe I would have said that, Well, 588 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: you said that, so. 589 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: Nixon used low this game. If you had an MSG 590 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: so far, it has to be the play playoff game. Yeah, 591 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: that was crazy. Home opener this year was bump into 592 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: but the playoffs for sure would probably loudest. There's breast milk, 593 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: the official beverage of the pod. It's never going to 594 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: escape you, No, it won't. We don't have an official 595 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: beverage of the pod. So mm hmm. You know it 596 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: was opening there. 597 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: When you tweeted that. 598 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't mean this in a bad way, but like, 599 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: what did you think would happen? 600 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: Did you think it was? 601 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: I knew people were like and I also did it 602 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: like jokingly, so I knew people would have fun with it. 603 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: But I didn't think it would. I thought I would 604 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: be able to escape it. At some point you thought 605 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: you thought you'd escape it. Yeah, I don't think so. 606 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: I would say, like, if there was any breast milk 607 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: companies that like come out with milk, I for sure 608 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: would be a great posted child. Though Robbie underscore down 609 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: twenty four, Why won't you love me? Robbie, There's a 610 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: lot of avenues to to go down. What did you do? 611 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: I mean, why want you? 612 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: Like? 613 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: You got to do something? 614 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: I would just say, maybe it's it's not you with her. 615 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: Maybe it is you, you just don't know it. Like 616 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: you got make sure you brush your teeth. That could 617 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: be something subtle. It's one thing that a lot of 618 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: people call out people for having bad breath, like to 619 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: their face. They'll just avoid you. So that could be 620 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: one thing. Yeah, deodorant, maybe the odorant you could stink. 621 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: Any advice Josh for what Robbie can do to make 622 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: her love him. 623 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: I guess brush your teeth and apply the odorant. 624 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, make sure you make sure you sell nice bringing 625 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: flowers that including mcbrunson, who my sports hero is growing up. 626 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: I'll do sports in general. I'll do all sports Steve 627 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 3: Nash my favorite players growing up. There's another player in 628 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: the NBA who I'll wait till he retires to publicly 629 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: say that I love chrish Awana though, donovd McNabb. So 630 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: last words, heroes, I. 631 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: Would probably be d Wade, Sean Taylor. 632 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna you're gonna say that, Sean Taylor, Taylor cold. Yeah, 633 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: I say Kobe as well, for sure. Kobe for sure. 634 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: Does Jalen need a nogg and Boss if he wants 635 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: to wear hats? Probably because I feel like I think 636 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: we covered on the episode before that he did order 637 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: some hats and they did not fit. So I think 638 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: that would actually kind of benefit him in the short 639 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: and long term in terms of getting a nog and Boss, 640 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: put your logo on it, trademark JB Magic's in the 641 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: work on the side, I might make one of those 642 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: may and then, like you know how like Nike puts 643 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: like made to the exact specifications of championship athlete, that 644 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: could be only like the ins I made to the 645 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: exact specifications of Jalen Brunson's head. Yeah, I feel like 646 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: we're messing a really huge marketing brand on that one. 647 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: We'll talk offline is jayal and jealous of Josh's summerleague MVP. No, 648 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: does he plan on playing summer league again to catch up? 649 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. For those of you who. 650 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: Don't know, if we play summer league, that would be 651 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: kind of fun. 652 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 3: I played some league once. Obviously, Josh was sumer League MVP. 653 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 3: I think the same something that was in his second year. 654 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: Going to our rookie year, I played my worst brand 655 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 3: of basketball ever. I cannot explain to you how bad 656 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 3: I played basketball, and so yeah, I would never, never, 657 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: never again try and play on catching up. We have 658 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: a question in from extra stiff Man, no extra comments necessary, 659 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: please top five centers of all time? 660 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: Shack, I'm not doing a order, Shack, will Kareem Elijah on? 661 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 2: Who am I missing? I'm missing somebody? 662 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: You are missing some I would have build. 663 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so Shaq, will Kareem Elijah on? Bill Russell. 664 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 3: I like that list. 665 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: That's a good list. 666 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: Are we throwing in there? 667 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: Not yet? 668 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: I would put the top five for so far. 669 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: To MVPs in and Ring. He's back to back MVPs 670 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: and how many years could have been three in a row? 671 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 4: Look at that? 672 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: That's tough, I'll ask me that again in like a 673 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: couple of years because I had longevity too. 674 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 3: I think by the end of his career he could 675 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 3: be a top. 676 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: Five for sure. 677 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 3: For sure, if he can be a top center, he 678 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 3: can be a tougher center. 679 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: Do you think by the end of his career Joelle 680 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: could be a top five center. 681 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 3: It's hard to cut the top five for sure. 682 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: The top five is tough. 683 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,959 Speaker 3: For sure. 684 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: Wemby would be up there too. 685 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 3: The potential, if you're going to pick two people to 686 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 3: to do it, to do it, would be those two question. 687 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Clyde, we appreciate you coming onto the Roommates podcast. 688 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for all the love that you been showing 689 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: on the broadcast for the podcast man, so we thank you. 690 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: Thank you to the fans for listening, for tuning in 691 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 2: continue on this journey with us, and we appreciate it.