1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: What's up is way up with angela Ye, and it's 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: a Wealth Wednesday. So I'm excited to have Justin Burns 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: here with me today. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: You're from Chicago, but you're international. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Yes, international jay is what they call them, and you're 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: the founder and CEO of Maestro. You're also a technologist, 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: a futurist, an AI strategist, all of the things. Can 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: you tell me what Maestro is for people who are 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: listening and don't know. 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Maestro is a platform where creators can basically 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: host their digital products, you know, kind of similar if 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: you don't know Patreon right where you can actually sell 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: you know, your knowledge, expertise, but also you can build 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 3: community as well. 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to discuss your background and how 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: you even got into this because I know that this 17 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: has been a journey for you as. 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 4: Well, big journey, crazy journey. 19 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: So what even led to you deciding that this is 20 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: something you want to do? Because I know coaching is 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: really big for our community, but AI is also something 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: that's really scary for us. Yeah, so we're going to 23 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: talk about all of that. But how did you even 24 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: come across. 25 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, born and raised in Chicago, I 26 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: don't have any entrepreneurs in my family was soever me either, 27 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: So first first generation breaking the curses, right, But you know, 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: growing up in Chicago, we didn't have many options. So 29 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: I plopped around from job to job to job. And 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: then as I was a cell phone used to I 31 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: used to actually sell cell phones. Angler so as I 32 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: was selling celles phone, yeah, I was the plug. I 33 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: was the plug, you know. So as I was selling 34 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: cell phones, this guy came into my job and he 35 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: was talking about, you know, hey, you know, have you 36 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: ever thought about thinking outside the box? And I had 37 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: never really thought I saw the box because I thought 38 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: the box was really limited to a nine to five. 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: And so as we started to have a conversation, I 40 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: was like, there's something interesting about this guy, Like I 41 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: want to get to know him. 42 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 4: So he gave me his number. 43 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: We started talking and he invited me to this event 44 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: and they were talking about the future of you know everything. 45 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: At the time, AI wasn't a big you know conversation. 46 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: This was about a decade ago, okay, So but he 47 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: talked about that people in different parts to the world 48 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: are going to be able to buy your product. You 49 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: may be able to do business in London and Spain 50 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: and Germany, and I just I don't know, you know, 51 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: you know how that like those moments that something just 52 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: hit you where you'd be like, that's it. 53 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but I'm gonna go 54 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: after that, and. 55 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: So fast forward. I tried to you know, I ended 56 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: up getting fired. Thankfully for me, that. 57 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: Was one of my That was my mom why did 58 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: you get fired? Listen? 59 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: You know you're trying to dig all deep. I already know, 60 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: you know. It was like you know, they was doing 61 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: you know how it is like lay off stuff like that, 62 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: you know, like lay off. So it was it was 63 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: something that actually was a destiny moment for me that 64 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 3: helped me because I didn't know what was going to 65 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: happen next week. 66 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: And sometimes being too comfortable in a position and be detrimental. 67 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: Getting fired could be the best thing that happens to you. 68 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: Listen, it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Now, 69 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: if you would have asked me ten years ago, was 70 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: the best thing that happened to me? 71 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: I would have looked at the sideways and I want 72 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: to ask you what was it about this person coming 73 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: in and having a conversation with you and telling you 74 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: to think outside the box. 75 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: That really connected at that moment. 76 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think a lot of times 77 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: people playing seeds in us and I think it's like 78 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: at certain times, it's when we're ready. I think at 79 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: that time, I was really ready because I kind of 80 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: really being honest, like I hated my life. I would 81 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: like get up, put on the same clothes, go to 82 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: not the same same clothes, but you get like the same, 83 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: like you know, the work outfit, like you know, the 84 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: golf shirt the same. 85 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: I was, listen, you're about to put that out there 86 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 4: on the edge and don't do it. Don't do me 87 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: like that. 88 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: So you know, but for me, it was just like 89 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: tired of the same mundane things. Getting in the car. 90 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: It was you know, in Chicago we call it the hulk. 91 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 3: So I had to face the hulk, which was negative 92 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: two three degrees. It was absolutely terrible. So you know, 93 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: going through those motions really helped me in So fast 94 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: forward to today, I figured out, you know, technology, which 95 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: is the greatest I tell people it's the greatest time 96 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: in history to be alive because regular people, we now 97 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: have a seat at the table. 98 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: That's what I'm excited about so. 99 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: You but ebook, yes, and that really also changed things 100 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: for you. You never know where these lessons are going 101 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: to come from. 102 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, it's like the small things we're looking for, 103 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: like the sky topart. You know, the rainbows to come out, 104 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: but sometime it's subtle. So I bought it was like 105 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: the scammiest ad and it was like, buy this, make 106 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: a million dollars. It was crazy, but buying that opened 107 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: up my eyes that there was more opportunities than what 108 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: I saw. And so kind of buying that took me 109 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: down this journey of searching out different ways and seeing like, 110 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: oh I can work from home. 111 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: Oh I can't. 112 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: Actually create a business out of this, and that kind 113 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: of led me to you know where I'm at today. 114 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: I think what people learned during COVID too was being 115 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: able to shift to online because if you didn't have 116 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: that presence when the pandemic started, you had to get 117 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: it fast or you weren't going to survive. 118 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: Hey, right, so everybody was sitting at home, right, that 119 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: was the perfect time to build up those skill sets, right. 120 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: And so now, like I tell people, like, no matter 121 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: where you're starting off, no matter what your background is, 122 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: we now have tools you can create things like I'm 123 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: sure we will talk about it. There's so many different 124 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: ways that you can utilize AI to take advantage and 125 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter where you're started. 126 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: So let's discuss AI because this is something that for 127 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people feel like AI is going to 128 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: take our jobs. Some people feel like, okay, we're looking 129 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: at the music business. 130 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: There are certain people who have embraced it. 131 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: Eric bellingeric came on lip service and said he has 132 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: AI signed to him. Timberland, you know, a lot of 133 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: people have embraced it, but there are some people who 134 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: are fully against it. They think it belongs nowhere, even 135 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: writers Hollywood. 136 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: You know. 137 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: You see people are getting laid off and now they're 138 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: but people who are getting hired are people who are 139 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: experts when it comes to AI. And so for people 140 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: who are scared about what's going to happen when it 141 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: comes to AI, what would you say to them? 142 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: Here's what I'll tell people. Right. 143 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: I love this saying, which is, don't fear AI, right, 144 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: because that's not who's going to have to go through 145 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: any type of Oh they're going to lose my job, right. 146 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 3: You want to fear the people that know how to 147 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: use AI, right, And so that's the people you want 148 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: to fear, because there's still going to be a need 149 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: for so many different industries. So it's kind of like 150 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: if say, like for example, back in the day, right, 151 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: remember when you know, like there was a couple of 152 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: different scenarios, like remember the cars started coming out, right, 153 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: everybody was on horses, right. 154 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 4: If you would have just been. 155 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Like, let me not drive, scared the car, I don't 156 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 3: want to drive any cars, that's what ended up happening, 157 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: then you would have been left behind. 158 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: Same thing with I was. 159 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: I was seeing this junk that one of my friends 160 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: wrote about his mother was a math teacher, and when 161 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: calculators first came out the first k everybody was like 162 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: hold on, you know you had to buy a one 163 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: hundred dollars two hundred dollars calculator, Like who got one 164 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: hundred dollars two hundred dollars for calculating? 165 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 4: Yeah? 166 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: They were crazy expensively. My mama was like, what is 167 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: what the type of calculator is this? At that time, 168 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: if you would have like, calculators didn't take over anybody's job, 169 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: there's still math teachers, there's still people who use it. 170 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: It just is something to help people think faster and 171 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: better and do things more efficiently. So when you think 172 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: about AI, don't think about AI taking a job or 173 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: doing that. Think about AI as a companion, something that 174 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: can help you do things better. 175 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I also think about I was reading a post the 176 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: other day and it was a business that had just 177 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: shut down, which is always sad to see that happen. 178 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: It was a restaurant, but they did this. 179 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Whole post about why they were closing, and people were 180 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: in the comments where like, Okay, you wrote this whole 181 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: post with AI, and it's so obvious and we can 182 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: tell when somebody because AI is not supposed to copy 183 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: and paste, you are supposed to still like maybe it 184 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: helps you come up with thoughts and ideas, but you 185 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: still have to customize things and personalize them, you know. 186 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: So I do agree with what you have to say, 187 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: because AIS there is a tool to help you kind 188 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: of monetize things, do things faster, do things easier, but 189 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: it still requires somebody that's going to do some actual work. 190 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to see, it's not the tool, 191 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: it's how you use the tool, right, And so some 192 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: people use it like you talk about they go copy paste, 193 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: they use things like, you know, tools like let's just 194 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: say Claude or chat GPT. Everybody knows mostly about chat GPT, right, 195 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: but it's not it's how you use the tool that 196 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: makes you more efficient. 197 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: And more better. 198 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: And like I said, it's a companion that can help 199 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: you with so many things. I mean I could think 200 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: of like four or five different use cases of how 201 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: people can actually build wealth with AI, and it's powerful. 202 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: I love it. 203 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: Give us a couple. 204 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So one is like, let's just say, for example, 205 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: no matter what everybody here has experience, who's listening to this, 206 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: you have some you've done something right, So you could 207 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: take AI, say like you could use something like Claude 208 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: dot ai. They just had a commercial, uh, you know, 209 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: throwing shots at open AI. 210 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 4: I mean open Ai. 211 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: Right, you can see that they beefing, right, they beefing 212 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: like ads on my out by channel now. But you 213 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: could use something like Clauda. You can create things like ebooks. 214 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 3: You can create your own ebook. You can create things 215 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: like digital products, digital courses that don't require time, right, 216 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: like trading time for dollars. Right, you can actually use 217 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: that to be able to create that. One of my 218 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: favorite ones though, is that now, like, so maestro, right, 219 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: So we built that platform. I bootstrapped that platform because 220 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: investors wouldn't actually give me any money, so I actually 221 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: had to bootstrap that. So what I did was I 222 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: use digital products to actually fund that company. Now Here's 223 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: what a lot of people don't know. I spent almost 224 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: close to a million dollars in development because technology is 225 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 3: very expensive. Developers aren't cheap, right, so a lot of 226 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: people have ideas. Now Here's the greatest thing I tell 227 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: people why we're living in the greatest time in history 228 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: is because now you can use other tools to create 229 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: something called apps. 230 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: Right. 231 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: So the average person, right, let's just say the average 232 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: person has six to eight apps in the last six 233 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: months that they've purchased. 234 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: Ye. 235 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: So back in the day, you used to have to 236 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: go high expensive developer. It costs fifty thousand dollars. Now 237 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: you have tools like Lovable. Let's get people actionables, right, 238 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: So you have tools like Lovable, which is so easy. 239 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: You can go there and say I have an idea. 240 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: Let's say, for example, you know you like, look, let 241 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: me help the single ladies out for a second. So 242 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: you have a dating app that you want to develop. 243 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: All you got to do. Is used to be that 244 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 3: you would have to go through this long, crazy procession. 245 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty things, so much money that fire a developer 246 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: because they're not doing what they're supposed to. 247 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: They gave up on your dream and now and then 248 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 4: they don't. 249 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: Look like how you wanted it to look. We got 250 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: to start all over again. This person didn't give you 251 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: the rights for this and locked you out. And you 252 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: don't know anything about developing an app, so how are 253 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: you supposed to yeap? 254 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: And so now the game has changed because I can 255 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: spend a couple hundred dollars go. 256 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: To a tool like say like Lovable, or there's a 257 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 4: couple of them like Bolt. 258 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 3: There's a lot of them that actually just put a 259 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 3: prompt say I have this idea, and then it will 260 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: actually start coding for you. And if you're thinking like wow, 261 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: like oh justin like you know, the tools are. 262 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 4: Not ready yet. 263 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: Listen all the top companies now a lot of people 264 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: don't know that this is a statistic. Right, Almost thirty 265 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: to forty percent of their other companies like Google's, their 266 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: code base is written by a crazy right. So in 267 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: the next tis that we have access I used to 268 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: have to listen. One of the most one of the 269 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: Like when as I was building my tech company, right, 270 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: it was a very loone feeling because people that looked 271 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: like me didn't know what I was talking about, and 272 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: so I was kind of on a lone island. I 273 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: was trying to I had this idea, I wanted to 274 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: get it out to the world, but I didn't have 275 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 3: the funding. I couldn't talk to a lot of people 276 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: because it's like people that look like me were not 277 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: really in technology. Here's another stat only three percent right 278 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: of melanated people whold tech jobs or in technology, out 279 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: of what thirteen percent of in America right of the population, 280 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: only three percent of us whole technology jobs. Technology is 281 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: where we're not. It's not the future, it's here, right, 282 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: So you have a lot of people that they don't 283 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 3: understand that, Like, listen, if you want to be a 284 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: part of the future, you have to get out of 285 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: your own way. You have to stop fearing it and 286 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: you have to stop embracing it. But there are tools 287 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: that can help you to get over that fear. 288 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: You know, justin you said something a little while back then. 289 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: It was interesting to me. 290 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: You said investors wouldn't invest now that you look back 291 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: at it, because sometimes when you have investors, there's a 292 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: certain responsibility that comes along with that too. Right when 293 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: they put money in it, they own a percentage of 294 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: your company. You're responsible to them. When you look back 295 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: in retrospect. Do you think that was a good thing? 296 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: I think it was a great thing because what I 297 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: tell people is you want to validate that your idea works, right, 298 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: and so now see you don't have to spend thousands 299 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: upon thousands to do that. You can, Like for anybody 300 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: listening to this, let me just even tell you, if 301 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: you have an idea, go to something like Lovable Bolt. 302 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: Just take the concept, build a prototype. Right. A prototype 303 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: is just it will build just the shale of it, right. 304 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: And then what happens is is you can just get 305 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: people to start being interested in it. They could put 306 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: their name, email address, you could just start building out 307 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: that anticipation, implify it. Once you do that, you want 308 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 3: to be in a position to Okay, now if you 309 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: want to get customers first, because even if you got three, 310 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: four or five customers, you've validated your idea works. Guess 311 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: what now, Now you're in control. So if you are scaling, 312 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: let's say an idea takes off, like there's so many 313 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: ideas taking off now in the technology space. Now what 314 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: ends up happening is is now you're in control, you 315 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: don't have to give up all this equity in your company. 316 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: I'm not saying you won't ever need investors. Here's what 317 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 318 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: You want to have more. 319 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 4: Like me right now. 320 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: You know, even like the more I do interviews, the 321 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 3: more I get myself out there, guess what happens. I 322 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: always get emails from people like can I buy your company? 323 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 4: Right? 324 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: But I bootstrapped it And because I'm utilizing AI to 325 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: do that, now I'm in a better position. 326 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about Maestro, because that is your company, 327 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: that's your platform. So it helps people turn ideas into 328 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: real businesses. So who is your target audience for this? 329 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: And what problem would you say that Meiestro is solving. 330 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Maestro solves the problem of you know, having 331 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: to like, let's say, if you have anything digital right, 332 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: you want to build a community, whatever it is, Maestro 333 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: can take a concept and turn it into help you 334 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 3: with payments, like because payment right, you want to get 335 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: paid digitally. That's also an amazing thing that's easier. These days, 336 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: people say, how do I get paid? That used to 337 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: be I don't know if you remember this, but when 338 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: you used to have to sell anything, you used to 339 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: have to go through and pull out twenty applications. They 340 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: used to have to make sure you wasn't a drug dealer, 341 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: to make sure like you want to sell anything illegal. 342 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying they don't vet you, but it's 343 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: a lot easier case in point, let me give you 344 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: an example. So we have, like we have something where 345 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: like I show people how to build apps, right, So 346 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: I actually host it on Maestro where I teach people 347 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: like how to build apps. 348 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: Coming. People always ask me, hey, justin how do you 349 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: build apps? Right? 350 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: So somebody could take an idea, right, and I took 351 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: that idea, bought it over to like say for Maestro, right, 352 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: and then Maestro took the concept and. 353 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: Host the videos. 354 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: So I don't have to worry about you know, I 355 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: gotta do hosting secure, protecting your idea, making sure people 356 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: that purchase actually get access to, you know, what they purchased. 357 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: You know, one of the greatest and when people hear 358 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: me say, like, we're living one of the greatest times 359 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: in history, they'd be like justin you just you just 360 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: hyping things up. No, listen, Like I don't think people 361 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: understand how fast you could take an idea and get 362 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: it to market. 363 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: It used to be so hard. 364 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: Oh you're right about that, even like something simple like 365 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: doing a flyer. Like it used to be like, can 366 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: we find somebody who could do the graphics so I could. 367 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: Now you could be like okay, let me just hurry 368 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: up and input this. Okay, I could say change this, 369 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: change that, and then it shoots back a fly I 370 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: don't need anything crazy. 371 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: I just need like a quick flyer. 372 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 4: Then that happened to me the other day, like like no, for. 373 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: Real, Like so it used to be crazy. 374 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: It was crazy Like the other day my team had 375 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: logged out, like this is like perfect case scenario like this. 376 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: My team logged out and I realized that there was 377 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: an error on the flyer that we had to We 378 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 3: were sitting out and I was like dang, and then 379 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: we had a deadline. It was supposed to be like 380 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: that night, nobody was offline. 381 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: Nobody was. It was a couple people not answering. 382 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: I went to Google called nano banana right, which is 383 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: like there's an AI platform really easy. I took the flyer, 384 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: I dragged it into the box. All I said was 385 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: keep the same flyer, but correct this little line right 386 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: here I'm talking about Two. 387 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Minutes later, was like, I don't need nobody to be online, 388 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: but I'm. 389 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: Gonna tomorrow if my team may not have to come 390 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: back tomorrow because you know, like and it's not it's 391 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: not like I tell them, like, we're not. 392 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: Here to replace you. Use it to be more efficient 393 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: and effective. 394 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Now we also talk about you also talk about coaching 395 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: digital projects also subscription based businesses, and so how do 396 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: how do you help people with that side of things? 397 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we so we have make stro with people hosts, 398 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: but we also do something called apps build with AI 399 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: because I believe and this is something that that I'm 400 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: passionate about because I was like, people always ask me 401 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: to be like justin, I want to build this software, 402 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: but back in the day, I couldn't help them because 403 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: it was just so many like barriers. But now I 404 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: actually show people how to actually take an idea and 405 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: turn it into an app because. 406 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 4: You can build mobile apps, you can build web apps, 407 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: you can. 408 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: Build tools like the game is the game has changed 409 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: and so I love it. 410 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: Give me an example of a business or a person 411 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: that came to you that now has established a business, Like, 412 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: just give me a start to finish how this works. 413 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: Just give me one so people to understand. 414 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 415 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: So actually this weekend we held like an event, right, 416 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: and her name is Vicky. She's sixty plus years young. 417 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: She said, don't say I'm old, say I'm seasoned. Right, 418 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: so I wanna say season sixty year season. And she 419 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: had no idea a few months ago was she actually 420 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: had an issue with caregiving. 421 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: Right. 422 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: So you know, caregiving is a very complicated thing with 423 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: there's documents, there's so many things, you know, especially you're dealing. 424 00:17:58,840 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 4: With the loved one. 425 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 3: So what she did was is she realized that you know, 426 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: it's complicated, you know, dealing with wills and trusts and 427 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: so many different things in the caregiving process. It is 428 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: it becomes kind of complicated and it's a very emotionally 429 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: attached thing. Where she actually built her company called Kinkeeper. 430 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: She built it and she took she took that idea 431 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 3: and she actually literally in about a month turned it 432 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 3: into a app. Then she now sells and she she 433 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: launched it. She didn't have any type of experience with it, 434 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: and now she has I think. 435 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: Like almost twenty thirty customers on it as well. 436 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 437 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: Like you just talked about recurring, right, people pay for 438 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: these things, and so imagine if you're helping them to 439 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: solve some type of problem like that, that's a big problem. 440 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: I agree, man, I just went through that myself, and 441 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: I know how difficult it is when you're like, Okay, 442 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: how do I shut all these accounts down? 443 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: How do I make sure this is in place? 444 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: How do I make sure that people know how to 445 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: access like the information that they're going to need if 446 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: something happens to me. 447 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 2: And so that is and then you want to make 448 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: sure that it's something. 449 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: That's affordable for people to do, because sometimes people get 450 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: intimidated thinking it's going to cost me so much money 451 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: to hire somebody to do this. A state planning to 452 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: make sure that you know my will and everything is 453 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: taken care of. 454 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, and that's the beauty of technology. 455 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: The beauty of technology is not to make our lives complicated, 456 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 3: to make it easy, and that's why we depend on it. 457 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: That's why every day, me and you we use all 458 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: these tools. And so now tell people, now, create the 459 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: tools that you want. Don't be a person who's just 460 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: like you know, a person who's just like consuming, Be 461 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: a producer, be somebody actually build. If you start now, 462 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 3: the next six months, your life is going to be 463 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: different because of the decisions you made six months prior. 464 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 4: So you know, just keep building. Man, it's just amazing. 465 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: Now you also have a spiritual platform. Yeah, can we 466 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: talk about awakened soul. 467 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, So awaken soul is a you know, I always 468 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: tell people like, I'm a very spiritual person. I always 469 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: think that God is within. And so for me, awaken 470 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: soul came about because again I had I combined to 471 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: other ideas. It was like, well, I wanted to show 472 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: people the things that I had learned because I sold 473 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: everything and traveled abroad, you know, and I went almost 474 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: for two years. I was traveling the world. Listen, you're 475 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: gonna listen. One day, we're gonna get that for you. 476 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 3: We're gonna get that for you. 477 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 4: We were just talking about that one day travels. 478 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 479 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: So one of the things is I started to find 480 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 3: more of myself, so things like meditation, and so I 481 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 3: connected those two things with technology, right, and so because 482 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 3: I believe that technology and spirituality actually go hand in hand, right, 483 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: So now we're able to create tools to help people 484 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: with mental health or helping them calm their anxiety down. 485 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 4: So that's what Awaken Soul is. 486 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 3: The ideology behind it is creating technology, because we also 487 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 3: have a technology attached to the platform where people can 488 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: do like breathing exercises, they could do, they could stop 489 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: because a lot of us were so on the go 490 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 3: and it's just money, money, work, work, work that we 491 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: don't stop and kind of send to ourselves to kind 492 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 3: of say, okay, it's not about what you believe. 493 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 4: Let's like get that on the table, right. 494 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: It's really everybody knows that they need to stop and 495 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: be able to kind of give themselves some type of 496 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: time where you can just stop, kind of calm yourself, 497 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: sent to yourself so that you could be the best 498 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: version of yourself. 499 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 4: So that's where Awake consults. 500 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: And I'm glad people think that now because there was 501 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: a time when we thought we sleep when you die, 502 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: and that used to be the motto and we would 503 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: working ourselves into the But I feel like times have 504 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: changed enough that people know that's not what it is now. 505 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: I know there are people who are listening to this 506 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: that are like, I have a great idea, I want 507 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: to do this. I have an idea for an app 508 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: or I could have used this and now I want 509 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: to create something. What would you tell them is the 510 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: first step? 511 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the first step is you want to now 512 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: this is how we could use AI. All you got 513 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: to do literally is go to AI. Let's say chatchpt, right, 514 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: go to chatchpt, go to Claude that's one of the 515 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: other resources, and just say what are the ten like 516 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: what are the five to ten most trending because you 517 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: want something that's trending things that people are talking about. 518 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: Right. 519 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: And the biggest way to get paid now is everybody 520 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: gets paid because they're solving a major problem people make, 521 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: like listen, people make. 522 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: Like having to come up with an app or whatever 523 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 4: you're selling. 524 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: They make it more complicated. That don't make it more 525 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: complicated that you make it simple. Here's the problem, here's 526 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 3: the problem that is going to solve. How can I 527 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: now take a vehicle like an app? And then after 528 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: you take that idea, you literally take that concept that 529 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: AI because AI is going to help you really go 530 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: through and flush it out. What's the problem, what's the solution? 531 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: How can I build this? And you could use a 532 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: platform like lovable and that takes I mean, I mean 533 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 3: literally less than one hundred dollars. You can have a 534 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: prototype and it gets you into that mode of starting 535 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 3: to you know, hey, here's how I can get customers. 536 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: And it puts you into this action based mode instead 537 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: of being reactive. 538 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: I have to imagine that you are constantly coming up 539 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: with ideas. 540 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: Oh how do you figure out when it's trying to 541 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: actually move on it? 542 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: Listen, Like you know, I always tell people, like the 543 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 3: best way to get ideas is to generate a lot 544 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 3: of them. See, we think that generate a lot of 545 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: ideas is bad. What you have to do is is 546 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: not bad because the more it's not because like I 547 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: did this exercise for a couple of years. What I 548 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: did with can I just be really bad at coming 549 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: up with ideas? But here's the exercise I tell people, 550 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: write down every time you're in a room where you're around, 551 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 3: write down one idea every day. What's gonna happen is 552 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: over a period of a couple months, your ideas are 553 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: gonna start kind of like formulating and you're gonna get 554 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: more ideas, So how you know which one to execute? Right, 555 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: is that it's really as simple as just choosing which 556 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: one has that like two or three questions that you 557 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: want to make sure that you answer before you choose 558 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: an idea. Number One, Is it something that you see 559 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: yourself committed to for the next two to three years? 560 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 4: Can you can you. 561 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: See yourself if it's something that you're not gonna be like, look, 562 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in the game for two to three years, 563 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: don't pursue it, don't do it, keep going like you 564 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: know past, like monopoly board past. 565 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: Go okay, don't go back. 566 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: Okay, So say, listen, I can see myself because as 567 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 3: much as I'm trying to make this easier, you still. 568 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: Need to be committed. 569 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: You need to commit yourself to the fact that hey, 570 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 3: I can see myself doing for two to three years. 571 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 4: That's one, and then we'll just do a second one. Right. 572 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: The second one is it's like, now that I know 573 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: that I have this idea, is it something that I 574 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: can attached to something that I'm already doing already? Right, 575 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: Because the more you're passionate about something passionate, people say, oh, 576 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 3: don't you know you always have this debate if are 577 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: you passionate? Are you not passionate? Passion doesn't plays. I 578 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 3: don't believe any of that because you have many passions. 579 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 3: So if it's attached to something that you are connected to, 580 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: it's gonna you're gonna be more invested in it. 581 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 4: So once you do that, then here's what you do. 582 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: You just have to take the idea and you just 583 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 3: have to say I am committed to doing it, and 584 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: you just do it. I know it sounds like just simplistic, 585 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: but you have to commit to it. And as you 586 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 3: keep going through the steps we talked about, you know 587 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 3: today right, you're gonna be It's not gonna take you 588 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: six months. Because see the problem is back in the day, 589 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 3: it was time. It was that it took six months, 590 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: and then by six months you. 591 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 4: Frustrated. Life is punching you in the face. 592 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: It costs so much money. 593 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're defeated. You're defeated. 594 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: Now you could get something to market and less it 595 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 3: shouldn't take you. And here's another thing, an another tip. 596 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: The biggest thing is give yourself a small amount of 597 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: time so that you show up for yourself, meaning, hey, 598 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give myself thirty days to get this idea 599 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 3: out there, no matter if I fail, no matter if 600 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: I fear it, no matter what's going on, I'm gonna 601 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 3: give myself thirty days to show up. If you do that, 602 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 3: I promise you things will be different. I promise. 603 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: Well. 604 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 1: I believe you because you took some crez like you 605 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: came in here, talked about your two years traveling abroad. 606 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: You even sold all your possessions. 607 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: Sold everything. 608 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, to do that. What happened? Like? 609 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: How did you have that awakening to say this is 610 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: what I'm doing? 611 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: You know, I think you have to be I think 612 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: the biggest thing is intuition. We often forget intuition, right, 613 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 3: Most people don't understand the definition into intuition is, no 614 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: matter what you believe, there's always something guiding you in 615 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: a small still voice to tell you don't do that, 616 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: don't cross it this time. 617 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 4: Right. 618 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: A lot of people don't listen to it. They listen 619 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: to more fear than they do that small still voice 620 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: because they're looking for something physical. So like let's say, 621 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: for example, something says write a book. Let's just give 622 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: you an example. Something says, write this book because it's. 623 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: Going to inspire millions. Here's what most people do. 624 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: Instead of saying, I'm gonna listen to that voice because 625 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 3: I hear it and I feel it that is true, 626 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 3: what most people do is they say, oh, I don't 627 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: what's in the bank account, I'm working too much, I'm 628 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: raising a lot of kids. 629 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: That doesn't take away from your experience. 630 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: But the more you listen to that small, still voice, 631 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: the more that other big things come up. So that's 632 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: what happened with me with traveling. It was just like 633 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: sell everything. I woke up when the middle of it, 634 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: when I was like, I had just Angelae. I just 635 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: put this nice painting on the wall that was fire 636 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: right there, African painting on the wall that was fire. 637 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 4: And now I'm like, you're just telling me to sell this. 638 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: I just got this dope painting now instead of now, 639 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 3: I could have came up with all these excuses. 640 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 4: I just got this furniture. 641 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: Nice, put it in storage. 642 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: I could have put it in storage. 643 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: No. 644 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: And that was also the other books that came up 645 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: behind it. It was like, no, sell everything, don't even get 646 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 3: a storage unit. 647 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, what who is this can't be this can't 648 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: be by intuition. 649 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: But after doing that, so many things showed up for 650 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: me after making that decision. New relationships, new people that 651 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: I've met along the way of my journey and traveling 652 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: in places like Kenya, South Africa and Thailand and Bali, 653 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: new opportunities, new business deals. See, many people are afraid 654 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: to let go of something old so that they can 655 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: kind of attract something new, and so you got to 656 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: be ready to do that. 657 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: Wow, it sounds like it sounds like that whole experience 658 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: is about to be a book. 659 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, I'm look listen, listen like I practice 660 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: what I preach. I'm actually writing a few books right now. 661 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: So well, still can help you with that. 662 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: MISHO can help you with that. It get help you 663 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: with that definitely. 664 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: So for people who are listening, if they want to 665 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 1: reach out to you, or if they want to figure 666 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: out how can they get started with their ideas and 667 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 1: working with Maestro and connecting with you, how can they 668 00:27:59,280 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: find you? 669 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: Are there upcoming projects? Events? How do they reach you? 670 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 671 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can find me on Instagram CEO Justin Burns. 672 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: I'm always on. 673 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 3: Instagram, always posting on Instagram. And then also if you 674 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: want to take an idea, turn it into an app. 675 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: It's called apps built with AI dot com. And you 676 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: can also find me on my website Justinburns online dot 677 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 3: com as well. 678 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: I did like your dating app idea. 679 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, Angela, we're gonna get you. Listen. 680 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 3: If y'all listen to this, this is what we're gonna do. 681 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: If she let me, we gonna build Angela app you. 682 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: Need to take. Not everybody. 683 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: I tell people everybody needs a technology like their own customer. 684 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: Maybe I need like an ask ye app or something. 685 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 686 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to ask ye app. We need some 687 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: other apps because I know you're working on some ideas always. 688 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: I've been listening to you for years. I know you 689 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: got some good ideas. So yeah, we gotta I tell 690 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: people everybody should have a piece of technology that they're 691 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: working on because that's the future. 692 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: But the future is now. 693 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you 694 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: for coming through today for Wealth Wednesday. 695 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. 696 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: I know, and I know people are already at home 697 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: right now, and there's got to be a voice. 698 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: Speaking to you in your head. Sometimes you got to 699 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: pay attention to it. 700 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: Do it just take action. That's my parting advice. Don't 701 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: stop listening to the doubt, the fears, the naysayers. Whatever 702 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: happened to you is actually a part of your story 703 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: and your journey, and you just need to push forward 704 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: and do. 705 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: It no matter what. 706 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: Perfect Thank you,