1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich Podcast. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: to seven Eastern to the four. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Find your local station for Comedo on Rich at Foxsports 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app Lie searching fsr. 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: OH. There's something about Thursday. There's something about March madness, 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: there's something about wings. They just all go together. If 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: you're watching us on our live feed on YouTube right now, 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: maybe you can see my lips on fire from the 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: spicy wings that we've got today. I'm not encouraging you 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: to do it if you're on your way home from work, 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: but they just taste better when college basketball, the NCAA 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: Tournament is on. It's true, not encouraging you to go 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: to any specific restaurants or anything, but it's just better. 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 2: Just that's the way it is. I don't know what 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: made it that way. I know people have wings on 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: football Sundays, but there's also something about it Thursday with 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: As I say, beer taste cold or too beer sports. 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: But let the record show no beer here, no beer here, 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: no beer here, show I want the record to show. 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying wings beer sports. There's a reason that's 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: a catchphrase. I'll tell you who is here. Jason Stewart 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: is here for our number two of this year. Everybody 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: so is Iowa Sam. 28 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: I loving it, loving every minute of it, wearing is 29 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: Iowa women's basketball shirt. They're not playing today, but the 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: men will play tomorrow. Yep, men tomorrow women on Saturday. 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Isaac Glowing Crown is at the news desk giving us 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: the latest. What's going on, Isaac? Not much. Your next 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: success could begin sooner than you think put. Your goals 34 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: will then reach a University of Maryland global campus and 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: accredited state university. Undergraduate and most graduate classes start soon. 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: Learn more at UMGC dot edu. That's UMGC dot edu. 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: That throw to Isaac was like how my bracket looks 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: after four games today? Non existent? I just gave you 39 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: the what's up? That's all. That just gave you a hello, 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: Oh what's up? Yes? 41 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: I was taking a dramatic pause, right ah. 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: I know you don't care. I know people don't care, 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: but I went o for four to start the day. 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: Ohio State lost, Yes, Troy, that was my upset pick 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: over Nebraska. I felt that the moment was going to 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: be too big for the corn Huskers eleven over a 47 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: six when Louisville's le losing one of their best players, 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: potential lottery pick. There's nothing wrong with that. Nothing bullshoot 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: five of thirty three from long range and lose by 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: four and ultimately Wisconsin, my alma mater, Falstall High Point 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: Badgers had opportunities. They sure did. You know what else 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: they did when they were down with about two seconds 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: to go, Aaron Torres, they threw it the length of 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: the court to try to get a bucket, as opposed 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: to what Ohio State did against TCU with four seconds left, 56 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: having Bruce Thornton inbound it to Christophe Tilly in the 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: back court. Then if Tilly threw up back to Thornton, 58 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: and if Thornton dribble up using the entire four seconds 59 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: of the clock to show to heave up a half 60 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: court shot that ultimately is off the mark, and TCU 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: ends up advancing a horrendous way to drop up a 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: final play for Ohio State and that lost to TCU today. 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: So it is interesting, Bill Raftery, Grant Hill, you know 64 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: the Final four crew was on that game and Bill Raftery, 65 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: who I think we can all agree, pretty non controversial guy. 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: You already said. 67 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: He said, he did say something to the at the 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: end of to the effect of, like, you know, Bruce 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Thorton's not really a playmate, you know, he's not really guy. Yeah, 70 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: like a quick twitch guy, something like that. But the 71 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: insinuation being like, you know, I haven't coached in fifty years, 72 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: and that's not what I would have drawn up if 73 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: I was a deepler. 74 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: And it's not even the fact that Bruce Thornton isn't quick, 75 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: it's that you gave the ball to Bruce Thorarton after 76 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: he inbounded it in the back court and had someone 77 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: throw it back to him, and then he had to 78 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: dribble up half the court. Tc You just cut it 79 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: off and by the time he could do anything. With 80 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: a second and a half, he maybe could have thrown 81 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: it to John Mobley for a thirty five footer that 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: would have been rushed. But wow, just an awful play. 83 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: And credit to TCU on the previous possession, got it 84 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: with thirty four seconds left, took the shot cock all 85 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: the way down. They got a bucket at point blank right. 86 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: You know, That was one of the weirder because you know, 87 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: you're kind of watching like is this gonna be a 88 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: buzzer beater type thing? And they're just dribbling it and 89 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: then David Punch, who's their star, like in let is it? 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: What's the right word not? He gets it into the 91 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: post and I'm like, wow, this is the slowest developing 92 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: buzzer beater ever And it wasn't he Obviously they scored 93 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: with about four seconds left, but it was like he 94 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: had more time than I think that I realized that 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: he had because, like I said, he just fed the post. 96 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: Who said a big missdunk by Arkansas. He had time 97 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: to feed the post and everything. So yeah, it was 98 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: It was an interesting dichotomy between the two final possessions. 99 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: But again, as Aaron and I told you, last hour 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: eight and nine really doesn't matter much unless the one loses, 101 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: which Duke almost did. I don't want to say that 102 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 2: they almost lost, but they were down by two Siena 103 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: for eighty five percent of this game, and it there 104 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: was opportunit unities were Duke could have taken the lead 105 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: in the second half, couldn't do it. Ciena would go 106 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: on a bit of a run, push it back out 107 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: to back out to six. Ultimately Duke ends up surviving. 108 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: So my question to you erin Torre's bigger story that 109 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: Duke had this much trouble with Sienna or high Point 110 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: takes Wisconsin and knocks the Badgers out of this tournament. Oh, 111 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: it's a good question. 112 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: I think high Point is the more interesting, you know result. 113 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Obviously it goes without saying because the upset happened. I 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: would actually go the other way though with Duke, because 115 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: again go back to you and I. You know, I 116 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to sit in for Kerry Rhoades on 117 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: uh Sunday afternoon when the bracket came out and we 118 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: talked about Duke played the ACC tournament without two starters, 119 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: and you know, the way John Shire kind of framed 120 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: it was, hey, let's be cautious here, but you kinda said, 121 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: if those guys don't come back, it was going to 122 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: be an uphill battle for Duke. And I think that's 123 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: exactly what we saw today. Now, Patrick Gong Brother's starting 124 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: center indicates are that he will be back Sunday. We 125 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: will see it's a foot it's a big man. He 126 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: has a history of lower body injuries, even at just 127 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one years old. So I just I think 128 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: it's a bigger story because we talked all year or 129 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: as a college basketball community, the discussion all year was 130 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: there was that clear top three of Michigan, Duke in Arizona, 131 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: maybe a fourth with Florida. I don't think Duke is 132 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: in that tier if they can't get guys healthy, and 133 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: I don't think there's reason to believe that they will 134 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: be fully healthy as this tournament goes on. 135 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: It's crazy when you look at the four or five matchups, 136 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: especially with what's happened with Alabama this week. Sure, when 137 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: we looked at the brackets on Sunday, I think we 138 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: thought the branding of what the East had, the caliber 139 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: of coaches at the East had make it a difficult 140 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: trek for Duke as he laid out then he also 141 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: looked at the West YEP and you just looked at 142 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: Arizona's path at least in the top half of that 143 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: bracket with Wisconsin and Arkansas being there. Now, Arizona wouldn't 144 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: have to play both of them, but they would have 145 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: to play one of them. And I think that if 146 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: you were to take your pick Obviously, Texas Tech is 147 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: a conference foe. It is a five seed, But I 148 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: mentioned Alabama in the four seed. The four to five 149 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: in the other bracket was Vanderbilt and Nebraska. I think 150 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: those four to fives were easier in the South and 151 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: the Midwest than they were in the East and the West. 152 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: So while we're maybe and I want to right off 153 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: high point and Arizona hasn't even played a minute of 154 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: this tournament, but we're sitting here and we're looking at Arizona, 155 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: Arkansas and the sweet sixteen, which I think a lot 156 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 2: of people have in their brackets. Maybe getting ahead of myself, 157 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: but that is marquee to the tee, just like Duke 158 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: Saint John's would be with Duke going up against Rick Patino. 159 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: And I just wonder about the roads because here Michigan, 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: Michigan to me as a bit of a cake walk 161 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: to the to the Elite eight total. And so Florida's 162 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: only hiccup I think could be if they have a 163 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: rematch with Vanderbilt in the sweet sixteen. But the good 164 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: news for them as they have chip on their shoulder 165 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: from losing in the SEC tournament, so you at least 166 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: have that edge the roads of Duke were difficult. In 167 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: the roads for Arizona were difficult. And now as things 168 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: play out, even with Wisconsin out of the picture, now 169 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: Arkansas comes in in. Arkansas, who's up nineteen right now 170 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: against Hawaii, will likely be a sizeable favorite against High Point, 171 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: not a guarantee that they're gonna win, But these matchups 172 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: at the Committee I think wanted in the sweet sixteen. Yeah, 173 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: we're starting to you know, show themselves out. 174 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: No. 175 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I hadn't realized this when we 176 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: were on the Bracket Show, but I had forgotten there's 177 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: some tournament history with Arizona in Wisconsin. For people who 178 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: don't remember, Wisconsin knocked Arizona out of the NCAA tournament 179 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: in the Elite eight in back to back years in 180 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen twenty fifteen. So when we were on air 181 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: for the Bracket Show, I was sitting there saying, you know, 182 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: tough draw for Arizona. Arkansas's coming off this SEC tournament championship. 183 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: They've got a lottery picking Darius Acuff and Arizona fans 184 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: were more worried about Wisconsin, and just because of the 185 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: history between those two schools in the NCAA tournaments. So 186 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: to your point, we'll see what happens. There's still a 187 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: lot of basketball to be played. 188 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 2: Uh what say? Yeah, I was just gonna say I 189 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: think that's an interesting point. Though fans are worried about 190 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: what happened ten years ago. Now it has nothing to 191 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: Wisconsin is the exact opposite of the team that was 192 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: played with Kaminsky and Decker on the front line, not 193 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: even the same coach. Yeah, yeah, there's you would have 194 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: The reason why I think Wisconsin was dangerous to Arizona 195 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: was because of their backcourt, because of Nick Boyd and 196 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: John Blackwell, yes, that that would be able to put 197 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: pressure and maybe Arizona wouldn't have had Wisconsin does have 198 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: some size as well, like that would be the danger. 199 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: But it's funny that you say that, because yeah, there 200 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: absolutely is history. They ended up playing out here in 201 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: the in the West coast. 202 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this bigger picture. How 203 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: much do you take the history because like Arizona, we 204 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: heard that a lot this week. Is you know they 205 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: quote unquote choke every year. Well they really don't. You know, 206 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: last year they were four seed and they lost to 207 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Duke in the Sweet sixteen, they played to their seed. 208 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: A couple other times they have played to their seed. 209 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: There was three or four seasons ago they lost to 210 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Princeton when Princeton was a fifteen and they were two. 211 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: But like, like, I mean, I just ask you, does 212 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: that like? And I'll set up my own thought before 213 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: I throw it over to you. I don't really look 214 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: too much at the history because the players and the 215 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: coaching staffs turn over so fast. Like even you know, 216 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: when the draw came out on Sunday, I had a 217 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: lot of Saint John's fans of, oh, we got screwed again, 218 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: and last year we lost in the opening round. I'm like, 219 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: last year is totally different. And I know it's the 220 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: same head coach. Biggie's player of the year for Saint 221 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: John's this year was on the roster last year. But 222 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't think there's very much carry over from year 223 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: to year with these programs, even with these same coaches. 224 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: The way that there was a decade ago, fifteen years ago, 225 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: I would say it's probably true. I do think Louisville 226 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: losing last year probably helped them this time. Aramed again. 227 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: When you hit thirteen of twenty five threes, Yep, that's 228 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: what's gonna ultimately help the most. So yeah, I don't 229 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: think that there's as much carryover. I do think it 230 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: does reveal in coaching though. It does reveal when teams 231 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: are falling short and they're falling short in a certain way, 232 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: and you know, we just use the play that Ohio 233 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: State like drew up. You know, Jake Diebler's been a 234 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: bit under the microscope, especially considering the coaches that could 235 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: have been available to Ohio State at the time that 236 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: he ended up getting the job full time after taking 237 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: over on an interim basements, on an interim basis for 238 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: Chris Holtman who was dismissed. But when you look at 239 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: Dusty May, who could have was a candidate thought to 240 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: be a candidate for that job. Now Dusty May's a 241 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: one seed with Michigan and one of the top teams 242 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: in the country. Cal Perry was another name that was 243 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: thrown out with Ohio State and as we talk about 244 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: this Arkansas team. So I think the coaching stuff stays 245 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: the same, and that's it's probably the best way to 246 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: look at it as well, just with the constant of it. 247 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's not buw Ryan, Greg Gard though is 248 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: a disciple of bow Ryan. But yeah, it's not the 249 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: same coach as Sean Miller's not there. But if you're 250 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, Tommy Lloyd in, you're starting to have these 251 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: teams that have high expectations and you're falling short. That 252 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: ends up building up some scar tissue. I mean jim Beheim, 253 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean right, look at out Beaheim's look at out. 254 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: Beaheim's entire life changed when they won the national championship 255 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: in two thousand and three. Because it was always of 256 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: the guy by the way, Beheim became cool like Jason Sewart. 257 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: You followed Syracuse. They win an O three, Like Beayheim 258 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: always seemed like the nerdy, tall, lanky coach. 259 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: They win an OH three, and all of a sudden, 260 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: now look at me, I'm Jimmy b I'm Jimmy Bayheim. 261 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm dressing this way. 262 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: His wife was twenty years yeah she still is twenty. 263 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: Years Yeah, Like it changes everything. 264 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: He was kind of the bitter curmudgeon for the longest time, 265 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 3: and then yeah, he wins that thing and he's mister personality. 266 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: Yes completely. I went to an NCAA tournament in nineteen 267 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: ninety nine, first and second round games in Indianapolis. We 268 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: showed up on the Wednesday before and there was a 269 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: downtown mall in Indianapolis, and I I just remember there 270 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: were teams that were walking through Ohio State was there. 271 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: They were at the mall and there's like Jim Beaheim 272 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: walking by himself in a trench coat, like walking past 273 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: the Macy's. You know, it's just it was so odd. 274 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: But I'm thinking to myself and you think back then, 275 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: like would you see coach k because this was before 276 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: the national Championship? Would you see one of those guys? 277 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: But as but it changed everything four years later when 278 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 2: they ended up winning. So my ultimate point, if Arizona 279 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: and Tommy Lloyd keep on falling short in the NCAA tournament, 280 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 2: and that Princeton team, by the way, one another game 281 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: of the tournament right went to the sweet sixteen. But 282 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 2: if you keep on falling short, that's what people are 283 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: gonna remember. 284 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: One more question in the same vein how much pressure 285 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: taking a side that they almost lost today? How much 286 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: pressure do you think it's on John Shark because I 287 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: heard a lot of that, like he's got the best 288 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: player every year it's Duke And I'm like it's his 289 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: fourth year. They made a Final four. Last year, they 290 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: just had, by any tangible measurement, the best regular season 291 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: that Duke has had basically in thirty years since nineteen 292 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: ninety nine. It was their best regular season finish. I 293 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: don't think there's pressure on him, and I actually think 294 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: weirdly the way the bracket lines up, it's like I 295 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: think if Saint John's beats him, specifically Saint John's, I 296 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: think it will be more of a celebration of Rick 297 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Patino's greatness than John Shire's, you know, not being able 298 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: to do the job. 299 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: Now. 300 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: If they lose to TCU, and I think to a degree, 301 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: if they lost to Kansas, with the way Kansas has 302 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: been kind of up and down this year, it would 303 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: be a conversation. But I just bring it up because 304 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of that about John Shire, and 305 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that I personally believe that. 306 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: I don't think it matters one bit. I agree, I 307 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: don't think it matters. When I owed up for two, yeah, 308 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: I think if he lost today, but yeah, if he lost, Yeah, 309 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: if he lost today, you'd maybe raise an eyebrow. But 310 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: when you just look at the players that they've brought 311 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: in yep, right, I mean you have Cam Buoser is 312 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: the only you know, unanimous all American from the Associated 313 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: Press last year's class. You look at what Cooper Flag 314 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: and Konkan people are doing now in the NBA. I 315 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: know people will hold that against Shyler, like how could 316 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: you not win without that ten minute stretch where they 317 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: couldn't hit a bucket? Otherwise you know, things are different. 318 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: The other reason why I don't think it's a big 319 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: deal is because of how Shire got the job. How 320 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: many duke assistants and even throughout the years, even before 321 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: coach k actually stepped down, how many guys did we 322 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: think we're in line and we're prepping themselves for that job, 323 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: whether it be Mike Bray, whether it be Tommy Amaker, 324 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: whether it be Johnny Dawkins, Jeff Cap Yeah, like all 325 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: of these other coaches, and it goes to Shire. Sure, 326 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: So like there's a reason that it went to him. 327 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: I agree, And so for whatever the reason is, I 328 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: don't think that any of that heat if they were 329 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: to not get it done or underwhelm in this tournament 330 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: because they hired him because that's who they wanted. And 331 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't think that these outcomes are going to change that. 332 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, it was I heard enough people 333 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: talk about it that I was kind of surprised that 334 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: I felt it was worth bringing up. But I you 335 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: know again, I think if he had lost today, it 336 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: would have been like, oh, you know, he just handed 337 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: the keys to a ferrari and crashed it. But he 338 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: didn't lose today. I think they'll play much better against TCU. 339 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: And then, like I said, if you get to a 340 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: sweet sixteen and you lose to Bill selfer Rick Patino, 341 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: I think it's more of a celebration of those guys 342 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: than it is tear down Duke, especially with the injuries. 343 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: Coach cal is six h six to go to celebrate 344 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: a first round win, up twenty on Hawaii eighty three 345 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: to sixty three. 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We played 379 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 4: somebody to have his drug on doings. Feel's unreal. I 380 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 4: know how good of a take we had, but nobody 381 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: would play us, just like they would have play Miamio. 382 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: But they got it in this tournament. 383 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: Early on. What change? 384 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: We got a hell of a team. 385 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I I think so good. The we just settled 386 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: in is another one. I thought maybe it was Derek Carr. 387 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: I thought that's who Flynn Claiman sounded like when Derek 388 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: Carr would like try to get a deeper voice and 389 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: then maybe it would turn southern. What do we got, 390 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: Let's go book, there's go. You're gonna get everything out 391 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 2: of me. I'll tell you every time, get all of 392 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: it from me. I give me everything you've gotten. Let's 393 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: see what happened? Why something? And then when you would 394 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: hear Derek Carr do his podcast that he does, he 395 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: just sounds completely normal. Justice. 396 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that sounded very much like I'm trying to 397 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: relate to a locker room full of guys that make 398 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: way less money than me. 399 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: Oh but good for Flynn claiming right, this is the 400 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: opportunity to do so. Like when Bryce Harper at the 401 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: home run for the US to tie the World Baseball Classic, 402 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: it actually didn't matter at that point if they won 403 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: or lost. That was Bryce Harper's moment, in his moment 404 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: to shine in the show off and the hot dog 405 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: and do what he wanted to do because it was 406 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: the bottom of the eighth inning and so him pointing 407 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: out the flag and doing what he was doing around 408 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: the bases, there was no there was no way of losing. 409 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: So even if High Point ends up losing the Arkansas 410 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: coming up on Saturday, high Point one like they've already 411 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: won because they've won a game in the tournament. 412 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: And I think he and Travis Steele are clearly using 413 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: this stage to play to call out the high majors 414 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: for being afraid to play them. I think there is 415 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: absolutely something to that, and it's conversation you and I 416 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: had last week when the bracket came out. Is for 417 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: people who don't follow this, these mid major teams can't 418 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: get games. And it's because obviously, with the net ranking 419 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: is the analytic that we used to judge teams and 420 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: grade teams and whatever, and these high major teams just 421 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: sit there and say, we can take tw thirteen fourteen 422 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: losses and it doesn't impact us. We could still get 423 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: into the tournament. So why would we schedule one with 424 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: a high point or a Miami of Ohio or whatever. 425 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: I think wasn't Frank Martin of Yes, it was a 426 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: great who was with Jason Whitlock, I believe, and just said, 427 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: like I was in the room when they developed the 428 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: net because they need they needed power conferences to have 429 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: more of an advantage, and he was was he at 430 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: South Carolina at the time? 431 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: Can I can I nerd out on the net for 432 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: half a second? I know you say that this is 433 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: the time to do it. The net part of the 434 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 1: net ranking is margin of victory and so and you know, 435 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: sick plug. 436 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: I know. 437 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: I had Travis Steele on my podcast a few weeks 438 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: ago and we talked about this. He said, if you're 439 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: a high major, you want to schedule quad one in 440 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: quad four games. You want to schedule quad ones because 441 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: obviously they look good on a resume, and you want 442 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: to schedule quad fours because it's not only wins, but 443 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: you're getting the biggest margin of victory possible. What you 444 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: don't want to do is schedule a high Point or 445 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio that on paper doesn't look like it's 446 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: going to be a quote unquote great win, but they're 447 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: still good enough to beat you. Even if they don't 448 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: beat you, it's going to be a dog fight. And 449 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: that is how we get a situation where a thirty 450 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: to four high Point coming into selection Sunday would not 451 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: have gotten into the NCAA Tournament without winning their conference tournament, 452 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: and Miami of Ohio, of course as well, does get 453 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: in at thirty one in one overall. 454 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: Well, tip of the capta high Point because Wisconsin haight 455 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: opportunities to win that game, and in fact, high Point 456 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: came back late with a couple of big buckets and 457 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: then got the defensive stop that they needed. Their go 458 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: ahead bucket ended up being on a breakaway. 459 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't talked about that kids' first two point 460 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: field goal all season long. 461 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: Seriously, did you see this? 462 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: No, it was the dude, Chase Brown, I think who 463 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: was hitting all those three pointers it was his first 464 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: two point field goal all season long. I'm not being 465 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: sarcastic when I say this. 466 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: I knew it was the ninety nine that he was 467 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: the shooter, but I didn't realize that he didn't have 468 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: a two point field goal. 469 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: Chase Johnston. He finished today's game with fourteen points. Obviously, 470 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: let's see here, Let's take a quick look. Let's take 471 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: a quick look. I just want to look at the seasons. 472 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: By the way, not a lot of ninety nine's. I 473 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: had my number ran yesterday again with Monzi, like branching 474 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: off of what we had talked about a couple of 475 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: weeks ago with a single digit uniform numbers. When I 476 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: saw in ninety nine, I was like, all right, I'm game. 477 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: So he finished four of six from three to five 478 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: of seven from the field. Let's let's take a quick 479 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: look at his one of one, yes, one the two 480 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: point field goal range. So let's see here. He took 481 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty two to three pointers this year, 482 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: zero two pointers coming in. 483 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 484 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't attempt a single two pointer until that shot, 485 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: which ultimately won the Know your. 486 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 2: Role, That's all you ask for the players is to 487 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: know your role hit the biggest shot in school history. 488 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: That was his right. He was unbelievable. 489 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: Now he had heat about three threes that were like 490 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: fall away catching shoot is pretty awesome. 491 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart's our executive producer. 492 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: Just watching Ariza. I'm sorry Arkansas celebrate their win today. Now, 493 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 3: you guys are in the weeds in this. You already 494 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: know this. I didn't, and maybe the listeners will relate 495 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: to me. DJ Wagner is on the razorbacks, I said 496 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: to Sam in the break, I said, is that the 497 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: son of de Jon Dewaun Wagner, who is the grandson 498 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: of Wilt Wagner. I have been in this game so long, guys, 499 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: I remember pretty distinctly Dewan Wagner and all the controversy 500 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: at Memphis with Cal and bringing mill in. His son 501 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: is a major player in college basketball news to me, Sorry, 502 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: isn't that crazy? 503 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: By the way, Oh, it was controversial to hire a 504 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: recruits dad, Like that's how far we've come in college sports. 505 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: Of it used to be you hire the dad to 506 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: get the kid, and it was Jaycenu remembers twenty five 507 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: years later how big of a controversy it was at 508 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: a time. Now it's like, Oh, we're just going to 509 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: give this kid two million dollars and we're not even 510 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: gonna worry about it. 511 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: And by the way, DJ Wagner, who you talked about, 512 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 2: is in college two years longer than probably anybody thought 513 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: when he was coming out of high school because he 514 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: was at Kentucky and was one of the top recruits 515 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: and that was going to be that was supposed to 516 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 2: be the class to bring Kentucky back to relevance. And 517 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: then they fell flat, and then cal left and then 518 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 2: they just followed him Darkansas. 519 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a three star kid out of Kentucky 520 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: on that team that nobody thought much of. It was 521 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: Reed Shepherd, who's doing pretty well I think in the NBA. 522 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: So I will say this, and I'm glad that Isaac 523 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: played that. When I worked in Madison, I did the 524 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: Wisconsin Basketball pre and postgame show. I know you know this, 525 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: but Greg Guard was my frequent guest on my postgame show. 526 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: So I always have a soft spot in my heart 527 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: for Greg Guard, who was always wonderful to talk to 528 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: after the game's Rob Jeter was an assistant to bow 529 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: Ryan at that time. Gary Close was an assistant at 530 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: Iowa under doctor Tom. He was an assistant at Wisconsin. 531 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: He would come on, but I would talk with Greg 532 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: the most, So I always pull for Greg, and I 533 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: agree Greg, and right now today sucks, especially if you're 534 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: at Wisconsin Badger. 535 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: You weren't there during the infamous stand Van era in Wisconsin. 536 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: No, no, I was in high school. Yeah, this is 537 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: the year one season right, Yes, that is correct, the 538 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 2: one and done after Stu Jackson ended up and then 539 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: Dick Bennett ended up taking over from that point. But 540 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: Dick Bennett's first year was my first year in college. 541 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: He's aeron Torres, I'm Dan Pyre. It is Cavedo and 542 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. We switch gears. Because 543 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: Barry Bonce is back in baseball. Netflix is going to 544 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: have Bonds be a part of the broadcast for their 545 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: Wednesday night opening game Yankees and Giants. It'll open the 546 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: MLB season on Wednesday. Yes, not a week. We're less 547 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: than a week away from the start of the Major 548 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: League Baseball season. Opening Day officially one week from today, 549 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: but the opening night game between the Giants and Yankees 550 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: is on Wednesday. Barry Bond's going to be a part 551 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: of the broadcast. Barry Bonds has been back in baseball. 552 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: He was a hitting coach at one point. But now 553 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: I think in a situation where Alex Rodriguez has opened 554 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: the doors for so many, Barry Bonds being welcomed back 555 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: with open arms to be a part of the broadcast 556 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: for the Netflix crew that's taking over a portion of 557 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: the MLB TV package. Yeah do you so? 558 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: I know it's a little bit different, But when Alex 559 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: Rodriguez has become probably the most prominent baseball media member, 560 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to like have any sort of 561 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: feel on this one way or another. 562 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: Now A rod always tried to be liked. 563 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: I think Barry Bonds not only did not care if 564 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: he was liked, I think sometimes he actively did not 565 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: mind being despised. So I do think it's that classic, 566 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: Oh you treat the media like crap. Now it's time 567 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: for you to collect a check and you become part 568 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: of the media. I don't know that I have anything 569 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: major to take away from this other than that it 570 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: is an interesting name, and I will say this, I 571 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: don't expect like groundbreaking inside it. 572 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: So the biggest punishment for the guys like Aron and 573 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: Barry Bonds, and now the late Pete Rose is they're 574 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: not going to get into the Hall of Fame. Now 575 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: Pete could get in because he's dead, so his lifetime 576 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: ban ended, but he's not going to be around for 577 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: us to know it. That's the biggest deterrent, at least 578 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: penalty that keeps on going. I think two things. I 579 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: think that there are very few people who still have 580 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 2: the energy, and it's not everyone. I do think that 581 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: there's a portion of the fan base that does have 582 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: the energy to always hate Barry Bonds, to always not 583 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: like Alex Rodriguez because of what they did or were 584 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: perceived to do. But there's also a portion of it 585 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: that just doesn't have the energy to deal with it anymore. Yeah, 586 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: and so now the TV networks are saying, hey, let's 587 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: take advantage of this, let's bring in Barry Bonds, and 588 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: instead of him being a pariah or Alex Rodriguez, they're 589 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: almost celebrated. And to me, it's too You talk about 590 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: the energy to fight it, it's a battle that you're 591 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: not going to win. Yeah, so you might as well 592 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: just accept it how it is. But I just think 593 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: that the only thing that really is now the deterrent 594 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 2: from what they did in the past is to not 595 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: have the Hall of Fame. Everything else is just kind 596 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: of off the board, And I don't know if anybody 597 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: else is going to gate keep to keep those players 598 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: out of something like television. And as I said, I 599 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: think A Rod completely opened the door here. It's now 600 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: a co owner of an NBA team, you know, So 601 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: what else can you do? I think you're fighting a 602 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: losing battle if you think you can continually punish these 603 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: players who are caught up in the steroid era. 604 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess the only thing that I would add 605 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: is it does feel a little weird the idea of, 606 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, holding this against them for from now until 607 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 1: the end of time, as far as celebrating them as 608 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: a player, but then also totally celebrating them as some 609 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: sort of analysts that we need to listen to. That 610 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: to me is more of a baseball thing. From the 611 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: baseball perspective, I think we as media companies need to 612 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: put on the best, most entertaining product that people want 613 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: to listen to. I think A Rod fits that bill. 614 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: I think Michael Jordan with the NBA stuff fits that bill. 615 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: So our job is to put on the most entertaining 616 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: people that we can. I guess it's more of a 617 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: baseball issue at that point, but I guess it is 618 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: a little weird that again, we celebrate these guys on 619 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: social media, on TV, viral clips, whatever, and then it's like, oh, 620 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, the doors to Cooper's town are shut to them. 621 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: Jason Stewart, I mean, I'm in that camp with people 622 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: that just count let this go. But I will say this. 623 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: And really, but just on that, like you think, am 624 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: I wrong saying that there's just a small portion of 625 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: people that will never ever forgive or let go? Am 626 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: I correct? And I'm in that group. I'm in that 627 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: group unfortunately. And in the last year when the Giants 628 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: announced that He's going to get a statue, that offended 629 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: my sense abilities. Uh, probably more than most. But I 630 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: will say this about Netflix in this particular, hire if 631 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: you're going to hire Barry Bonds, that means that they 632 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: agreed to ahead of time, Barry not having to answer 633 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: any questions about it or never being asked about it 634 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: or talking about it, And to me, that kind of 635 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: rubs me wrong with as far as Netflix's credibility and 636 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: bringing him on, It's almost like one of those things 637 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: that if you hire Barry Bonds, let's get something out 638 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: of it and maybe have him on camera actually denying 639 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: something he's never really been asked or even talked about. 640 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: It's like he's been skating for twenty years on this 641 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: whole thing. It's just strange as to put him on 642 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: camera and act like nothing ever happened. 643 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: I could say something real quick ahead, no, And that 644 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: is interesting that the skate bypart, because a Rod did 645 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: come out eventually and was like, you know, he did 646 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: the whole rehab tour whatever. It is kind of interesting 647 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: that he's never really acknowledged it, and now we're just 648 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: not going to talk about it with Barry Bonds. I 649 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: don't mean to cut you out. A Rod was suspended twice. Yes, 650 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: the second time was yeah. 651 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: I mean you're like so like, there's so there's a 652 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: reason for him to talk about it. Bond's never had 653 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: to deal with any of that, even though we know 654 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: what happened. To Jason's point, if Netflix were to ask 655 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: him about it, I think it would grab headlines. But 656 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: I also think that you would hear a bunch of 657 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: people that'll be like, all right, just let's just just 658 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: let it go, let's just move on. It's it happened 659 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: twenty years ago. It's I also think that Bonds his 660 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: penalty is that we don't remember his numbers like we 661 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: remember Babe Ruth's, Hank Aaron's, Roger Merris's those sort of numbers. 662 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think there's a penalty too, is has 663 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: anyone besides the giants, like he has not been a 664 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: celebrated person relative to both his accomplishments and his talent. 665 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you wanted to be in 666 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: the spotlight, but I think for as much as them, 667 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: people ignored him. I think he wanted to be in 668 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: the spotlight playing baseball, but I don't think you ever 669 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: wanted to. He was never great with the price, and 670 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: I think that's an understatement, but I think that he 671 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: does want to get recognized, and maybe this is his 672 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: way of doing it. It'll make it feel better if 673 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: people just end up moving on. I will say it 674 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: did see you know when they would have those Greg 675 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: Maddox and I'm not sure exactly who did it, but 676 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: hearing Maddox and Bonds talk about facing each other, yeah, 677 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: very compelling, Like it is like as much as you 678 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: may want to hate it. It's very it's a very 679 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 2: compelling conversation. And so what he has to say if 680 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: he can do it in a in a and by 681 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: the way, A. Routs was pretty good on TV. He's 682 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: pretty good. So it makes you want to hear more 683 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: of what he has to say. If Bonds is pretty good, 684 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: that'll open up more doors. 685 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 686 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot 687 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 5: com and within the iHeartRadio app. 688 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: Speaking of nicknames, maybe none better as the guys at 689 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: the d Show chat. We're saying on YouTube black Mamba, Iceman. 690 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: But Prince, I know this isn't Prince. This is more 691 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: to stay in the time, but Purple Rain the whole deal? 692 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: You with me on this? Sam? A verbal yes would 693 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: be great, Yes, that would be great. I am with you. 694 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: I like Irish Sam more than Iowa Sam. I've come 695 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: to that conclusion. 696 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: Wait till next week. Then we'll see, we'll see if 697 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: we really want Irish Sam. Rob. I like, I'm partial 698 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: to Iowa Sam, but who are you partial to Iowa Sam. 699 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: I'll stick with Io Sam. 700 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: There you go. 701 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: I think Irish Sam shall only come out like around 702 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day. 703 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: It's like a special event. It's Cavino and Rich here 704 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. He's here, and Torres, I'm Dan Byer. 705 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: We've been playing the Flynn Clayman sound from High Point 706 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: after they beat Wisconsin. Sounds completely like he's about to 707 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: wrestle in a TNA wrestling match. If you missed it, 708 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: this is him with TBS after the victory. 709 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 4: It looks pretty obvious to me that high majorcy to 710 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 4: play mid majors are in the Seas because they said 711 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 4: we haven't played nobody. We're playing somebody. 712 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: Now I had to do. 713 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 6: It feels unreal. 714 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: I no, I'm good to a team we had, but 715 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: nobody would play us, just like they wouln't play Miami, 716 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 4: but they gotta play us. 717 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 5: In this tournament. 718 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: Don't you down by ten early on what change? Were 719 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 2: just settling it. 720 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 4: We got a hell of a team selling in California 721 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 4: and Texas. 722 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: In New York, High Point the winner over the Badgers 723 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: today fifty three excuse me, eighty three eighty two is 724 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: the twelve seed gets the victory over the five seed. 725 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: Speaking of professional wrestling, professional wrestling fans, the action continues 726 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: every week TNA Thursday Night Impact every week. Don't miss 727 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: the adrenaline, the drama, and the total NonStop action as 728 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 2: you watch your favorite TNA wrestling stars. For show times 729 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 2: and more information, visit TNA wrestling dot com. 730 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: Can I say one thing we crap on all the 731 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: NCAA for everything that they do. The adding the life set, 732 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: not the life size, but the huge bracket and letting 733 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: one player a day stick the winner on the bracket 734 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Very cool addition to the NCAA tournament. 735 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: I agree. That's that's something that I like. And they've 736 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: done it to the conference tournament. Father they've added it. 737 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: It's finally come to me. It's finally I know who 738 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: he is, Nick Saban. Remember when Nick Saban was on 739 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: the sideline and it was building, and it was building, 740 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 2: and it was building, That's who it was. It took 741 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: an hour and fifty two minutes for me to realize 742 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: who Flynn Clayman sounded like. I thought it was maybe 743 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 2: Derek Carr, but the building and you know how I 744 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: knew it was Joey mullen Arrow who does the impression 745 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: of Nick Saban which sounded like Flynn Claman. That's who 746 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: it was he was doing. Flynn was doing his best 747 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 2: Nick Saban impression. I'm not going to so quit asking. 748 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 2: Yes that's the one. Yes, Yes, that's the one. Oh 749 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: so good so to have that somewhere. I thought it 750 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: was Derek Carr ed Orgeron was the in the inshow 751 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: chat as well. That was an another recommendation for who 752 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: we were talking about. But we had Bart Scott, we 753 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 2: had Uh, Mike Gundy could have been another one, Howard 754 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: Dean as you played so good stuff here. I'm more 755 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: of a Richard Sherman, Richard song receiver, like crap tree, 756 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 2: you like pitch. Do we have any Saban? Do we 757 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 2: have any Maria Taylor? It is? It's with Maria Taylor? 758 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: It is yes, all right, do we have it? Sam? 759 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: Do we have Are we tight on time? We'll just 760 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: vamp for ten seconds? North Carolina and VCU underway. Well, 761 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: I thought South Florida could pull up the upset against Louisville. 762 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 2: It didn't happen. Uh, You and I both like VCU 763 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: because of North Carolina being maybe shorthanded without Caleb Wilson, Yeah, 764 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: and other issues. 765 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: That was what I flipped by the time that bracket 766 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: came out. I think I was a little hard on 767 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: North Carolina. They lose by one in the ACC tournament. 768 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: The Duke game was close until Duke went on a 769 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: crazy run in the second half. So I did pick 770 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: North Carolina, but I did pick South Florida to beat 771 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: Louisville in another six eleven, and I actually picked Texas 772 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: to beat BYU in a six eleven later today. 773 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 2: No, that'll be an interesting one as well. AJ Demonsa 774 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: having to take on a lot of shouldering a lot 775 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 2: of the load for the Cougars. More action tonight and 776 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: again North Carolina and VC you just underway. Odd couple 777 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: is next. Aaron and I will be back for CNR 778 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: tomorrow here on Fox Sports Radio. Talk to you then,