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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for then,

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, August tenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number eight. Welcome to our final edition of The Break,

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Speaker 1: live from Oxnard, California. They are down to the final

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Speaker 1: two practices of training Camp twenty twenty one, presented by

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Speaker 1: American Airlines, and we're gonna wrap this thing up for

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Speaker 1: you guys here on the show today. We're gonna give

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Speaker 1: you some impressions from the Hall of Fame game, some

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Speaker 1: impressions from the Cowboys and Rams joint practice, catch you

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Speaker 1: guys up on some injury news, and then we got

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Speaker 1: a real big camp wrap up where I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: these guys a lot of different questions about a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things, and they're gonna give you some opinion

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Speaker 1: so you have a good understanding of what happened during

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Speaker 1: the three weeks almost three weeks that we've spent out

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Speaker 1: here in Oxnard covering this theme team during training camp.

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Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and jump right in. Let's start

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Speaker 1: first with the Hall of Fame game. Uh. Scintillating football.

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Speaker 1: Uh great, great show, I mean, actually is great. Nothing

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Speaker 1: I can't know, Okay, it wasn't okay the last game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, god, it feels like a month ago. We've

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Speaker 1: like covered this on other things. We can just loss

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Speaker 1: over it if we want to. Let's do this real quick.

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Speaker 1: Just give me one observation each You give me one

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Speaker 1: observation from that game, and it can't be it sucked,

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Speaker 1: like you gotta give me an actual analysis type observation.

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Speaker 1: Didn't It didn't suck, Okay, got through the NFL sanctioned

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Speaker 1: game that they forced them to play. They didn't get

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Speaker 1: hurt and that's why it didn't. It didn't suck in

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Speaker 1: and they and honestly, I thought it wasn't just that game.

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Speaker 1: It was a forty eight hour thing. I thought it.

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Speaker 1: Got to give the Cowboys credit for that. I really

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Speaker 1: think McCarthey and has played it, did a good job

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Speaker 1: the back end when the Rams came in and they

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Speaker 1: kind of got through that little period, but not only

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Speaker 1: was some good competition, but relatively healthy. Yeah, that's it's

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Speaker 1: a shame. And you know, I know we did our

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Speaker 1: best on DC dot Com and we streamed the scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: but I wish that had I wish people could have

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Speaker 1: watched it the way they watched a Hall of Fame game,

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Speaker 1: like broadcast cameras, see the whole thing, because that was

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Speaker 1: the real show, my Hall of Fame game. Micah Parson's

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Speaker 1: good offensive line, bad next onto the next one, don't care.

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Speaker 1: But the scrimmage was and even that starting offensive one,

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Speaker 1: the scrimmage, the scrimmage was fun preseason football. I mean,

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Speaker 1: But it was fun. If that's what it's like. I

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Speaker 1: probably Tampa. It's Tampa and Dallas. Oh, Antonio Brown and yeah,

424
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: maybe whatever they've God went on Evans. Yeah, And I

425
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: don't honestly, the way Antonio Brown played last year, I

426
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 1: don't sure if I necessarily think he's better. Yeah. So

427
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean I'll tell you this. I look at this

428
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: and I think I think statistically this year we're gonna

429
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: see CD take a leadership position. I think he'll have

430
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 1: the most touchdowns of any of the wide receivers. I

431
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 1: think he might have the most catches. I think all

432
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: the way around. By the end of this season, he's

433
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: going to assume a role where, at least from a

434
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: perception standpoint, he will be the number one wide receiver

435
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: in Dallas. And here's where I think it is important.

436
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: You're right, it doesn't matter for right now. Where I

437
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: think it becomes vitally important when you get to the

438
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: end of the season, because if he is securely one

439
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: of your your best wide receiver and among the very

440
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: best in the league, then I think it does affect

441
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 1: how you handle the off season with regards to what

442
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna do with Gallup and what that means for

443
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper, Right, because if you've got one of the

444
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: very best wide receivers in the league, then you know

445
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: at that point when his contract comes up, you're about

446
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: to pay him a ton of money. And that may

447
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: make you say, Okay, maybe we know we can't sustain

448
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: all three. Who do we really want to keep as

449
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: the number two? Right? If you're doing a number two,

450
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: do you really want to keep Gallop or do you

451
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: want to keep Amara Cooper? Because Amari Cooper within another

452
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: year or two, you got to make a decision on him.

453
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: So I think all that factors in. It's all becomes

454
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: important at the end of the season. And I do

455
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,239
Speaker 1: think he's gonna take that next step and become one

456
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: of the very best in the league. Yeah, I don't

457
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: know how I feel about that, just be I mean,

458
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: you're not saving like you're really not saving money, I guess,

459
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 1: is my point. Like if you if you offer Gallop

460
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: a deal, even if you mean, even if it means

461
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: you let go of Amari, like Gallops deal is gonna

462
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: be big. So you're gonna have two really expensive receivers regardless.

463
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about three. No, I

464
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 1: mean no, I think I mean that will come to

465
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: a head in some form or fashion at some point.

466
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't imagine all three of them being

467
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: here at least, yeah, I can't because yeah, I mean

468
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: on this trajectory, and I know, like you want to

469
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: pay Mike, I do, but I know that you gotta

470
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: you gotta give up something. I put it as four

471
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: four guys that's that's on a different level. Yeah, and

472
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: the old lines on a different level. There's four skill players,

473
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: three receivers in a running back. You can't keep all four. Yeah,

474
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: you can't pay And so I would be working on

475
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: a deal with Michael Gallup right now. I think he's

476
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: everything you want for this team as far as a playmaker,

477
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: but also his mindset, his mentality, the things he said yesterday,

478
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: things he said several times in the past. He's the

479
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of guy you want on your team, um, for

480
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: many reasons. So I would love to pay him, But

481
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: I understand that if you do that, you might not

482
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: be able to keep a Mari. You might not be

483
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: able to keep Zeke. You might have three high priced

484
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: receivers on your team next year and a running back

485
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: with Tony Poller didn't second and third round rookie. Can

486
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: you afford though? Can you? I don't know what his

487
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: contracts says, well, can you afford? But do you see

488
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: the subtraction that I'm talking about? Yeah? Yeah, I'm saying,

489
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: can you afford to do that? Getting rid of Zeke

490
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: next year is going to hurt your at Oh to

491
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: get rid of Zeke next year? Yeah, yeah, I don't

492
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: know that you're gaining anything by doing that financially, And

493
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: he may not be the guy that's out then because

494
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: you're not gonna you're not gonna hurt as bad if

495
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: you get rid of him, Mark, I mean, you know,

496
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: I mean we're kind of jumping ahead of ourselves, but

497
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean I do think that that, you know, we'll

498
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: see how things play out. Things could play out differently

499
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: today than they are you know, yesterday. But it's what

500
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: I keep saying that, I mean, Amari, Amari could have

501
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: with a full season of dak he could, we could.

502
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: We're like, oh my god, why weren't we talking about

503
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: Amari as a top five receiver in the league? Or

504
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: Gallup could have this amazing year, and like it's I mean,

505
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: I don't some of these like you don't have to

506
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: solve everything ahead of time. You really don't. Like if

507
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: if Gallup has this amazing year, you could even tag him.

508
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: You can rearrange some contracts to give yourself for him

509
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: to tag him, Like you just don't have to do

510
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: this right now. And I know, like people are so

511
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: worried about losing value. They're like, we can't, we can't

512
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: just let Mike walk for not. It's like nobody said

513
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: you had to do that, just just there's seventeen games,

514
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: and our opinions about these guys fluctuate wildly from year

515
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: to year, from game to game. Yeah. Absolutely think I'll

516
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: say this, and I know a lot of people that

517
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: are listening and all of us play fantasy football. You're

518
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna be pissed off at the Cowboys receivers this year.

519
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: You are. There's gonna be games where you're gonna be made, well,

520
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: honestly fun. I honestly, I don't know if I agree

521
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: with that, mainly because the way I look at it

522
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: is these receivers, there's no receiver in the league outside

523
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: of maybe two or three that are every week winners.

524
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: Like they all kind of have a week when they're

525
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: great and in a week when they're okay. What I

526
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: will say is, you go back and look at Ceedee

527
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: Lamb last year when he had Dak Prescott, he was

528
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: an every week start. He was a guy every week

529
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: that was gonna put up numbers, and I think it's

530
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: gonna be just as much so this year. I think

531
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Ceede Lamb is a guy. That's why I'm saying. I

532
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 1: think he's gonna take that step to where even if

533
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: it's a game where he's not in the end zone

534
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: a lot, he's gonna still have five catches seventy five yards.

535
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just think he's gonna

536
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: be your your main like he is going to be,

537
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: in my opinion, your most consistent threat every week. Well that,

538
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean five for seventy five. Is that good enough

539
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: for where you drafted him, you know, if that's his

540
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: worst week, yes, yes, I'll take that thing. Okay, Well,

541
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be like that. I mean, I

542
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: think there'll be games where you can take him away,

543
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: but that means that will be will be good. I mean,

544
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: it's just hard. It's just hard to to you know,

545
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: feed everyone. I think I think if you want to,

546
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: if you want a guy like that, I would take

547
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Dakudak's gonna be the one that's probably gonna gonna get

548
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: you a lot of points there, even down in the

549
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: goal line, that will be running in touchdowns. Not as

550
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: much as z but hopefully yeah, yeah, hopefully yes, hopefully true.

551
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next topic. The

552
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: swing tackle is currently on this roster. You leaning yes

553
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: or leaning no, I lean towards No, William Last our producer,

554
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: I lean towards yes, but I mean I lean towards yes,

555
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 1: because like like what else is But that's everybody's like

556
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: the offensive line depth on this team sucks, like get

557
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: in line. No, no, no, there aren't any good No,

558
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: there aren't enough. I'm not leaning towards. Yes, I'm jumping

559
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: towards yes, yes, yes, without a doubt. Your swing tackle

560
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: is on the roster. Yes I did. Are playing tackle

561
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: right now? No he isn't right now. There we go.

562
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: That's where I was trying to lean. I'm glad, and

563
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: that's what I think that were we talking about, Jack Martin.

564
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: I think I think you're starting. I think your backup

565
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: what was your idea? I loved every when the coach

566
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: did no, actually no, all right, keep keep going. Keep no,

567
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: he's killing his own idea. No, keep going, and I'll

568
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: decide if I hate it or not. I just think

569
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: when we go into Tampa Bay, I think you're starting five.

570
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: We kind of know who starting five is going to be.

571
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: I think your backup a center is will be your

572
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: starting left guard, and I think your backup swing tackles

573
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: you're starting right tackle. That's a problem, isn't it well,

574
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: because now one problem becomes two. Yeah, I get it,

575
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: I get it, and that's where But but then again,

576
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it just comes down. It still comes down

577
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: to your best five. Okay, guy, guy gets hurt. It's

578
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: is Terrence Steele a better option to play right tackle

579
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: than Connor McGovern is to play guard. And I'm saying,

580
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: if something would have happened to one of the tackles,

581
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: you got to move Zach out and you put McGovern

582
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: in to play Zach Martin spot instead of Steele, just

583
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: replacing one of the guys. It might depend on which side.

584
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: I think they're okay with Steel at the right tackle,

585
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: because you gotta remember, and Tony Romo used to say

586
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: this all the time, right tackle, better don't hold. I

587
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: can see this guy. You don't have to hold. You

588
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: don't have to think because I can see him coming

589
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: and I will get I'll get away from him. In fact,

590
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: Tony could see the guy I'm behind him for some reason.

591
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: He could do that. But I'm just saying right tackle

592
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: though typically I'll see him coming for the most part.

593
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: But left tackle that's kind of a big deal. So

594
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: I think they would move Zack maybe the left tackle,

595
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: but he's not practiced it at all. You know, I

596
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: think I only like the idea of Zach kicking out

597
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: if it, you know, knock on wood. But if it's

598
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: like a significant injury where you've lost the tackle for

599
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: a long time, like if it's one week, I think

600
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I'd rather just or even to finish a game. Oh yeah, yeah,

601
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think I'd rather just have Terrence Steele

602
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: run out there. Maybe, but I don't feel great about

603
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: that either, So I don't really I don't have a

604
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: definitive answer. Maybe I mean, Zach plan right tackle and

605
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: McGovern playing right guard might be better than Zach playing

606
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: right guard and Steel playing right tackle. I don't know

607
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: that they will sign. They will claim someone when when

608
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: the cuts are made, I firmly believe there will be

609
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: a veteran guy, whether it be tackle or a center.

610
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: They're gonna bring somebody in. Somebody's gonna gonna drop a

611
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: player that is just better. They do it almost every year. Year.

612
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: Every year, I think, I think they've got to do it.

613
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: This year, they're gonna find someone probably better than than

614
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Tye and Sky or Steele. Was it this show or

615
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but like, we feel really good about

616
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: seven guys on this team right now, like the starting five,

617
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: and then um McGovern and then probably Steele maybe he's

618
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: a development just I like feel good about him as

619
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: a player, but feel good that he'll probably be on

620
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: the team. Oh god, yeah. And then after that, I'm like,

621
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm invested on him. So so here's the follow up

622
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: question of that top five offensive linemen on this team?

623
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: Leaning Esseleni No, Smith, Martin Collins, Williams, Beotish, Um, exactly, yes,

624
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: I said Smith, Martin Collins Williams. And I think that's

625
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: your top five. Yeah. A lot of people are trying

626
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: to fire Tyler Beotish, but I'm not ready to do

627
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: that yet. I haven't. It's a Ricky Waters thing for me.

628
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: I mean for who, for what? I mean who? Well

629
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: the question, and I think a lot of people, a

630
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about the fact is Connor

631
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: mcgoverned better at guard? Is he challenging Connor Williams enough

632
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: to where you say he is one of your better

633
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: offensive linement And that means that having him on the

634
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: field and sliding, which a lot of people aren't in

635
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: love with beardist sliding Connor to center gives you your

636
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: best five, That's that's the question for you. I don't

637
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: think it doesn't give it your best five. It doesn't

638
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: because because be honest, is better at center than Connor

639
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: Williams is right now, especially snapping the ball. I don't

640
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: think Connor's there just yet at all? Now could he be?

641
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this goes back to what we've said before.

642
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: He just needs work. And I applaud Connor Williams actually

643
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: for his attitude of like he's like, yeah, I want

644
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: to do it. I like doing I love playing center,

645
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, and so you know here he is going

646
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: into a contract here. Maybe he sees the value of

647
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: that of like, hey, I could play all of these

648
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: spots from college to now, I'm playing them all, so

649
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: that might give him more value. But you know, I

650
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: just wish they would have done it earlier because I

651
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: really think they could have been this could have been

652
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: something here. Yeah, I don't I don't know what I

653
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: feel about McGovern. I I'm a little bit like you.

654
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I don't know. I don't

655
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: know if I'm as in love with him as it

656
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: seems like the reporting has been on him, Like I've

657
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: been watching or not. I'm just like looking at him

658
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, there's some moments, but there are also

659
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: some moments where I'm like, not so much. So I don't.

660
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen what everybody else thinks

661
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: they're seeing or reporting. He's he's been fine. He hasn't. Yeah,

662
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: he's not better than Connor at guard. I don't think

663
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Connor Williams they're better Van Connor. Yeah, but yeah, I don't.

664
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I think the five that we're

665
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: familiar with will be the five on the field against

666
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. Connor Williams in that last

667
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: practice against the Rams showed you something like he's out

668
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: there against Aaron Donald, and what you guys didn't see

669
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: you saw. I'm assuming everybody saw what led to that

670
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: little brief skirmish where Connor kind of threw him down

671
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: after you'd already still made it him. But really, I

672
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: think a lot of the frustration that maybe Donald was

673
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: feeling came from the other end. Donald. We were watching

674
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: them in one on one and Connor beat him twice. Now,

675
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: one time you could say maybe it was a stell mate.

676
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it was kind of like when he could have

677
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: gotten off and maybe made a play, But that first

678
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: one he got still made. Oh. I posted that clip

679
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter and it made the rounds, and I've still

680
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: people arguing in my mentions about who won that. And

681
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: I get it the first one and that no literally,

682
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and no question that I've never played offensive line.

683
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: There are plenty of people saying he pushed him five

684
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: yards deep. I'm like, I don't give him anchor. Yeah,

685
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: if an offensive line can anchor and you're not moving

686
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: him at that point, you're not going anywhere. Not to mention,

687
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: it's Aaron Donald drop. If he only goes five yards,

688
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Yeah, and you have a mobile quarterback,

689
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, though, I had every offensive line

690
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: expert in on Twitter bickering about who won the rep,

691
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: and I was just like, if the three time defensive

692
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Player of the Year pushes him four yards back and

693
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: then stops moving Connor one, I don't care what you say.

694
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: And I think Donald proved my point because he was

695
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: pissed and that's why they wound up in a fight.

696
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, there's no doubt. There's no doubt

697
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: that Connor, I mean dominated that that's that's what physics is.

698
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: You they push the pile that everybody does that. This

699
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: is how can they anchor and they set and they

700
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: eventually stop it, And that's everybody does that. There's gonna

701
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: be your your worst defensive tackle that we have is

702
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: going to push Zack Martin back a little and then

703
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, Travis Frederick used to always do it, and

704
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: you can see his back just kind of torquing and

705
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: he anchors it and then okay, now you're done. And

706
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: so that that was a clear mean basically you're kind

707
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: of you're kind of just going back with them a

708
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: little bit just to be able to get to a

709
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: point where you can anchor set and then it stops. Right.

710
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: I Mean, I hate to say this, but Connor, I mean,

711
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: I hate to say this, but if we really being honest,

712
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: Connor Williams has played well against Aaron Donald in his

713
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: career the times that they've faced him, he's actually done

714
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: a pretty nice job against him. It was some of

715
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: the other guys Brockers, I mean, and Dominican Sue a

716
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: few years in the playoffs years ago. I mean, he

717
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: was the one guy he gave Zack Martin Sue gave

718
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: Zach Martin more more problems than Donald gave Connor Williams. Now,

719
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: did they give some some help, Yes, of course they did.

720
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: They always will give help for Aaron Donald. But Connor

721
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: Williams seems to play well against him, because, if you

722
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: think about it, Aaron Donald, as as as great as

723
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: he is, he's not the biggest defensive tackle. He is

724
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: just so strong, powerful, and he's quick quick. Yes, and

725
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: you got it. You know Connor Williams, that's kind of

726
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: his game too. I'm not believe me, I'm not saying

727
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there, you know, I'm not saying

728
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: he's the He's the Jordan Stopper. Okay, I'm not saying that.

729
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that their games kind of compliment well

730
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: enough where he can kind of hang a little bit

731
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: where the overpowering guys are the ones's gonna give Connor

732
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more problems. All right, we're gonna take

733
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Speaker 1: our final break, We're gonna come back. I got more

734
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: questions for these guys. They're actually doing a pretty good job.

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Speaker 1: So I'm proud of you. Just keep it up here,

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Speaker 1: I heard. And then we're gonna head back to Frisco

786
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: Dave for a little practice. There. No, not not not

787
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: live on the mic, well not really period. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not listened to it. I listened to it. I

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Speaker 1: can't do it. Really, No, you got no flaw at

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Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Really? I would have thought you

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Speaker 1: could have just like off off the head, just mocking

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Speaker 1: me right now. No, seriously, I would have thought you could.

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Speaker 1: might have You're witty too. You gotta be Yeah, right,

795
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I thought he'd have a little something.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in New Orleans, but my I am

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Speaker 1: a I'm a midwestern white guy. Like no, I got

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Speaker 1: nothing for you. I stop, I can't wrap Okay, all right,

799
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Speaker 1: that's okay. Maybe we'll have you work on that and

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Speaker 1: maybe one day you can do something. You think the

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Speaker 1: rapper of our group is you think Rob Nicky long

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Speaker 1: silence without a do Absolutely, he's got. All right, let's

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00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: jump back in. We're doing a camp wrap up. We've

804
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: got some questions or actually topics that we're throwing to

805
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: these guys. We're finding after their leaning yes, leaning no.

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00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: Let's next talk about Michael Parsons. Michael Parson. Michael Parsons

807
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: will be one of the starting linebackers Week one, leaning yes,

808
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: leaning no. I got dinner. I got dinner writing on this,

809
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: So don't let that. Like you can always back away

810
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: from it. If you want to back away from it,

811
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: it's a good time to do it. Talking to Dave,

812
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah one h yes, who said who says no?

813
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: Dave said I said that in aping and that feeling

814
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: good about it, especially look at the first game I

815
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: mean look at that. I mean they just put them

816
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: out there. I mean that's ther three linebackers. I think

817
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna go in there. But what are the odds

818
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: they open in base? That is all this comes down to. No, Yeah,

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00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: it does down to exactly how they opened up dot,

820
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: how they run out of the tunnel. And the first

821
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: like you know for that with the starting lineup says right.

822
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: And that's the thing like I think when you when

823
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: you look at I think they're going to announce this

824
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: defense as three linebackers. Yeah, but more so than they

825
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: would say, hey, we're not going to put Micah on

826
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: the starting announced. He is going to be announced as

827
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: a starter from day one, in my opinion. Just yeah,

828
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: we just got the depth chart sent to us from

829
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: the PR. Let's let's stop, let's stop fibbling, let's stop quibbling.

830
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: Mike is going to play eighty percent or more of

831
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: the snaps week one? Will he play the most of

832
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: any linebacker? Um? No, Layton. Layton will be on the field, like,

833
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: Layton won't come off And I could see them rotating

834
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: Mica and Jalen and just look what because it's because

835
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: he's hurt. Well, he's hurt could be. I mean, I mean,

836
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: it could be. I don't like I don't like making

837
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: fun of people. I'm not making fun of him. I'm not.

838
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: That's not making fun of him. I love his game.

839
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: I wish he was on the field more, but he

840
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: hasn't been, and if he was more consistent, they would

841
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: have given him that fifth yer option. I'm just it's

842
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: not me. It's the fact that he goes off of

843
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: the history suggest that he doesn't play as much as

844
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: you want well, and the question would come out of that.

845
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: He gets hurt in the in the season opener two

846
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: years in a row. But no, But that's but that's

847
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: where I think the question becomes. If you if you

848
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: know that he has a history of injury, is it's

849
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: smart to put him on the field and say he

850
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: doesn't come off. Yeah, that's his job. He's the week

851
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: the weak side linebacker. Yeah, but look, when you've got

852
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: when you've got other options though, and you can rotate

853
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more, Does it make more sense three

854
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: to play two? What about four to play three? I mean,

855
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: that's what they have, That's what I'm saying, So so

856
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: does it make more sense to move those guys around?

857
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: A little bit more. So he's not taking as many

858
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: snaps because you want to protect him a little bit more.

859
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: I still when you have options, even they're gonna find

860
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: a role for Mica, they're gonna find a role for

861
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Jayalen and Keanu Um. I still think Layton's, assuming he's healthy,

862
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: I think his will be the highest because he's the

863
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: best pure linebacker in terms of like understanding things and

864
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: being able to make those types right now, right now. Yeah,

865
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. Just I'm just saying that

866
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: more is a kind of almost abjecting three years into

867
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: my even three years, give me half the season. Okay,

868
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's press commerce. Yesterday I had him

869
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I know, I know.

870
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: He didn't shy away from it. He really didn't. Well,

871
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: CD had a comment to do cecd's comment. Yeah, I

872
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: think they're both looking toward that. I'm on grind til

873
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: I get that gold jacket. Whatever he said, which you

874
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: should be. Smith came into the league and said, what's

875
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: the wreck Who's got the most yards? It's like, it's

876
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: what's Walter Payton. He's like, well, that's what I want.

877
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: Set big goals I'm a big believer in that. Absolutely, Um,

878
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: Layton Layton is he's without Shawn Lee here. That's he's

879
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: that guy. And I mean the parallels of them getting

880
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: hurt are not and it's a pretty big coincidence. But

881
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: like he under I have no doubt that he understands

882
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: this thing the best out of anybody. That's what I

883
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: think people forget about him, is he because he does

884
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: he has been injured something. When he's not injured, when

885
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: he's playing football, he is an all Pro player. That's

886
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: how good he can be. That's what's and we've seen

887
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: it about this whole thing is that, you know, if

888
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: they can they got to figure out how to get

889
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: how to get jay Lin evolved. They got to figure

890
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: out how to how to what to do with him

891
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: to get him in his best spot. I think Dan

892
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: Quinn is the guy to do that, and I think

893
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: he will, um, you know, and then Kean O'Neil's kind

894
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: of the same thing. But you got Parsons doing his thing.

895
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: If Layton can do his thing, I mean those linebackers

896
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: can be really good. They have the potential to be

897
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: really good. If Layton can play a full season and

898
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: be healthy and play to that level, and what we've

899
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: seen in Michael Parsons, I really believe they could be

900
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: among the best linebacker duos in the entire league. That's

901
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: how good they can potentially be. And that would also

902
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: mean if they're that good, how much do the two

903
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: of them come off the field, Like do you want

904
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: them coming off the field? You know? When you when

905
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: you look at Carolina when they were at their best

906
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: with Keithley and what was the other against Thomas Davis

907
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: when they had two of them, Like, they didn't let

908
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: them off the field very often because they were that good.

909
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: It almost gets to that point because they have that

910
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: kind of potential because they're both really that good when

911
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: they're healthy, end and out there. Okay, So this bet

912
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: that you guys have is gonna have to be on

913
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: the field, right on the field for the first All

914
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: that matters is who's on the field. Okay, Because I

915
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: say this because if you go to the Cowboys, they

916
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: just sent out like their notes for the second game,

917
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: Walks PR department, our PR department's gonna get us. He's

918
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: not listening to going to give us a penalty because

919
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: because and they know and John looking at Joe Trehanna.

920
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: Pr guy has done a great job here at camp.

921
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: But um, on their on their depth chart, they have

922
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: twelve guys on defense. Ah, so I'm say you can't

923
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: go off of that. So they're going they are going

924
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: to list all three linebackers as starters until they don't

925
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: have a choice. Yeah, it's really it's really not the line,

926
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: Joe says, ding Ding, ding Ding, It's not. It's the

927
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: four defensive linemen. You know. It's two ends, two tackles,

928
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: three linebackers, two cornerbacks, two safeties and then n B

929
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: nicol back, which is is you know, I guess a

930
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: good band. But um, but you know, but Jordan Lewis

931
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: h is right there now, like coming right on his

932
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: heels though, Maurice Kennedy, I mean, you got it. If

933
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: he keeps doing this, you gotta figure out how to

934
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: play him where. Yeah, it ain't just making a team anymore.

935
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: It's like how does he get on the field? Yeah no,

936
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: But man, I mean when you just how many linebackers

937
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: are they listening there in the its as among the

938
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: starters three, I mean Micer's on the outside linebacker, Layton's

939
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, and middle linebacker's Ja the more I think

940
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: about which the reason I made that bet is, you know,

941
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: seniority and politics go into this and seventy million dollars player.

942
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: But I'm sitting here thinking about it. Tampa's gonna open

943
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: up with three receivers. You're gonna be forced to Micael

944
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: better be on the damn field because you need speed

945
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: and Jalen doesn't have the same caliber. And by the way,

946
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: even when you said that before, I think there are

947
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: two things at play. One, we were we have been

948
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: conditioned by the Garrett regime that seniority like that matters. Yeah,

949
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: But the second nun now, Yeah, But the second thing

950
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: that I think we got a factor in is if

951
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: you want to talk about the seventy million dollar man,

952
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: that's kind of irrelevant. This is a first round draft pick,

953
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: almost a top ten draft pick, Like, there is no

954
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: way that you don't want him front and center, and

955
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: they're getting everything that they wanted when you draft a

956
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: first round pick. Right now, which is the rest is

957
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: saying he is a bad ache by the way he's living.

958
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound as good. He's a badass. You can

959
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: say that we're not regulated. Okay, I'm not gonna say

960
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: that but he's living up to it, which is you know,

961
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna be bad, but I

962
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: wasn't convinced he was just gonna have skyrocket like this.

963
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: So sitting here in August, it's a whole lot easier

964
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: for me to believe he's on the field, no doubt

965
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: about it. All Right, let's move on to the next topic.

966
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: Uh and this one, actually, I'm just we're gonna do

967
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: this for fun. Michael Parsons will be the best playmaker

968
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: on this defense in twenty twenty one? Leaning yes, leaning no. Wow,

969
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: that's a good question, umlaymaker. He's the guy, like we

970
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: talked about, He's gonna be that guy that shows up

971
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: on Sports Center. If you're gonna have a guy on

972
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: this defense that ever shows up on Sports Center, is

973
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: he the most likely candidate? Yeah? Yeah he is not.

974
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: He is. I'm gonna go for ninety four. I think

975
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for it. I'm gonna do it again

976
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: ninety four for Randy. I think Randy's gonna make some sacks,

977
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: gonna make some fumbles, gonna you know, I think Randy's

978
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: got to do and he did a better job of

979
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: it last year. Gotta cut down those penalties, those dumb penalties.

980
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: To cut those down, no more. Don't hit back. When

981
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: they hit you, you know you're a target. They know, Hey,

982
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: Rile up ninety four, we might get a fifteen yard penalty.

983
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: They did it with Dez back then you can't be

984
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: that guy beat disciplined. He's disciplined and and goes out

985
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: there and makes plays. I think he'll be the playmaker.

986
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: I think he'll be more sacks. I think he'll get

987
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: some turnovers. Here's why I say yes. And it's not

988
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: so much because I'm convinced Mica Parsons is going to

989
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. But I think I think his

990
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: role is almost gonna be as kind of like a

991
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: monster in this defense. He's he can blitz, he can cover,

992
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna drop, He's gonna be able to get picks.

993
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how good he's gonna be at it

994
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: when the when the lights are actually on, but he's

995
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: clearly got the instincts and he's got the athleticism. So

996
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: if Randy gets around the corner and swipes the ball

997
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: out of guy's hand, he's probably gonna be there to

998
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: get it. If he blitzes and sacks the quarterback and

999
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: the ball comes loose. He's got the athletic like he

1000
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: should be around the ball just enough, and and and

1001
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: he and he has the instincts to capitalize on it.

1002
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: So he's gonna he's gonna be the guy make like

1003
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: finishing other people's plays like Layton Vanderesh jars the ball

1004
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: loose and Micah's on the spot to get that. I

1005
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: can see that very clearly. It's like what happened, not

1006
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: in the game, by the way, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I

1007
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: mean he was right there to make it. And you

1008
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: know what you just described reminds me of Troy Palamalu. Yeah,

1009
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: you know, no, I don't. I'm not trying to I'm

1010
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: not trying to say it is a similar similar thing,

1011
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: Like he's just the guy be around the ball, do

1012
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: this and do that and laughing because he's arguably the

1013
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: best safety of the last fifty I mean, you know, honestly,

1014
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: there was a time when I thought Troy Palomala was

1015
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: the best football player in the NFL. And I agree

1016
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: with you, and also not one hundred percent sure that

1017
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: he's like fully human really all true. It's like superhero

1018
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: to me, the way that he used to time the

1019
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: snap and jump over the line. Yeah. And then and

1020
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: then the very next play he's forty yards down the

1021
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: field on a jump ball interception. Like, how do you know,

1022
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: I just I don't think he's gonna be that. I laugh,

1023
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: because that is incredibly rare air for anybody to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1024
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: As I was sitting there watching some of the Hall

1025
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: of Fame coverage that thing for a while too. But

1026
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: he wants to get to that. Yeah, Troy Polamala was

1027
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: like that special breed. Like I think sometimes even Hall

1028
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: of Fame doesn't really describe how great some players are.

1029
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that me, to me, that's

1030
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: even like a step above Hall of Fame, if you

1031
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: could have a step above Hall of Fame. He was

1032
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: just so dramatic and some of the things he was

1033
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: able to do. And I remember watching Hi when he

1034
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: was playing. You could see it like, yeah, this dude special,

1035
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: he's different than everybody else. Well, now that we're getting safeties,

1036
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: just all of them are going into the Hall of Fame,

1037
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: let's just let's clean it up, clean it up. And

1038
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: him would all right, um, that's gonna be a rep

1039
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: But actually, before we end the show real quick. I

1040
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: had a couple questions. I don't know if we're gonna

1041
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: get to all those, so real quick before we do

1042
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: in the show, I want you to quickly give me

1043
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: one guy that you think was the best player at

1044
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: camp and one guy that most didn't meet the expectations

1045
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: of what you had for him coming into camp. And

1046
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: let's try to avoid guys from a standpoint of injury

1047
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: because they didn't they didn't really get an opportunity to

1048
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: show you what they could do. You want to do.

1049
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: Second best yeah, second best player because it was CD.

1050
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: CD was the best player, yeah, right in this camp

1051
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: and then in a lot of camp, but better better

1052
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: than than some of Dez Bryant's camps where he's he

1053
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: was really outstanding. This guy did it every single day

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00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: and he had like a highlight catch of the day.

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00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: In fact, gonna be the best receiver on this team.

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00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: Saying that, I already said he's gonna he's gonna be

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00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: the best receiver on this team this year. Go ahead, Okay,

1058
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: So who what other player? Who was this ball and

1059
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: out out? Yeah? I mean I say what. The guy

1060
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: covering him wasn't too bad either, even though he was

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00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: giving up some plays every now and again. I mean

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Speaker 1: I thought Treyvon Diggs was was pretty good. I don't

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00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: know if he was the second best of Camp U

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00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: because it's hard. It's hard to say, well CD was

1065
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: the best and the guy covering him every every time

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00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: was second best. But he definitely competed pretty pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Chris Chris, our producer, thinks it's Maurice Kennedy. That's not

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00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: a bad that's not a bad. Guess he's had a

1069
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: really fantastic camp and a lot of that's expectations. Sure, yeah,

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00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: I meant about Dalton Schultz. Dalton Schultz almost everything that

1071
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: they could have asked from him. I mean he's all.

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00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean even when he when he starts, then when

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00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: when Jarwin's out, he has great catches. When he's not,

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00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: he comes in with the second team, he has great catches.

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00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: I'm kind of shocked, John, I giving Randy it's good

1076
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: my answer, My answer would either be Randy or Micah. Yeah,

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00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: And I mean I already have, but I can't say

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00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: enough about you know, there's a ton of expectations on

1079
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: a twelfth overall pick, learning that didn't play last year

1080
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: at all, didn't have a didn't have a junior season,

1081
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: just kicking ass every day out here for the most part.

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00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: So him or Randy one or one or the other.

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00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: Uh and then what guy? What guy didn't meet your expectations? Guy?

1084
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: You came into camp and you were like, I mean,

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00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: I really think this guy has some and then it

1086
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: was just like I didn't really see it. Oh, okay,

1087
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: let's think here. I mean it's yeah, was this on

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00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: the list? Yeah? Should we? This is one? Yeah, this

1089
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: is one you could have been prepared for. We could

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00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: have been prepared, been prepared. So we're making bad radio here. Yeah,

1091
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: you could have been prepared for. We're making bad radio.

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00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: That's okay. Um, damn, you have a guy. I'm struggling.

1093
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm I didn't think I was gonna answer it. But

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00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: the big one and it's injury. But I mean, Jordan

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00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis just hasn't had much of a camp. He

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00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: did make he made a couple plays in the scrimmage

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00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: the other day, but and that's it's injury though it's not.

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00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: He just he hasn't looked bad. He just really hadn't anything.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you one for me. I'll give you one

1100
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: from Okay, good. Kean O'Neil. Okay, Calary, I mean I

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00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: thought I expected a little bit more. I thought a

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00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: little bit more. Now again, he is a thumper player,

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00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: He's a hundred tackle a year type of guy. You're

1104
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: not doing that out here, especially to this team, so

1105
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see that physicality as much. I thought

1106
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: we might see a little bit more. Remember he was

1107
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: at Pro Bowl safety, so I thought we would see

1108
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more to that. I just haven't yet.

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00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily his fault, but I get and I

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00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: just um, he hasn't been bad, but Brent Urban hasn't.

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00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: Just I came, I thought he was gonna be I

1112
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: was like, he's definitely the starting one technique, He's gonna

1113
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: be the guy. And that's actually been Carlos Watkins. Really

1114
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: nobody was talking about before a camp. So it looked

1115
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: pretty good here. Yeah, I don't think Urbans had I

1116
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: don't think Urban's had a bad camp, but I thought

1117
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: he would kind of be more of the guy. I

1118
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: got another one. Okay, I'm sorry, Dave Kelvin real Cox.

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00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was gonna be mine. I haven't seen anything.

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00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: I want I want to see some stuff. He played

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00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: well in the game game, And why did I my wife,

1122
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: my voice, kids, I don't know he played well in

1123
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: the because you don't even believe it, Like you know,

1124
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: he played well in the game, y'all don't believe me.

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Speaker 1: He had five tackles, he made a great tackle in

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00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: the he played well in the game sport. He's a gamer.

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00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: I'll throw out one other one. Um and and this

1128
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: is only my only my own personal because you guys

1129
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: may not have even had the same expectation. I expected

1130
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: Terrence still, after all the experience he had last year,

1131
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: to be better this year in camp, and I really

1132
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. I still see the same things I

1133
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: saw kind of during the season last year, which were

1134
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: he's okay, he's gonna give up, still give up a lot.

1135
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: He's still not gonna quite be solid enough for you

1136
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: to feel great about putting him out there, even in

1137
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: back of dude, I don't feel great about that. Um

1138
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: so so for me, I just expected a little bit

1139
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: more than what I've seen out here. The offseason storyline was,

1140
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's optimistic, you're like stealing night got thrown

1141
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: into the fire, that they're gonna be so much better

1142
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: for it and they kind of look like the same players. Yeah,

1143
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: so it's almost like that that whole experience didn't really

1144
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: net you a ton, you know, at least as of

1145
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: right now what I'm seeing sometimes. I mean, the Cowboys

1146
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: find Gym's an undrafted free agency all the time, but

1147
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: undrafted players, all right, that is a rep guys. We

1148
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. We will be back on Monday, actually,

1149
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: once we get back to Frisco, we'll be back on

1150
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: the air Monday. Check the website. We'll have a full

1151
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: schedule up there. We'll continue our shows. We'll get back

1152
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: to our normal our normal groups as well. I know

1153
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: the break has been intact, but a lot of other

1154
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: groups have been kind of mixed based upon who was

1155
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: at camp and who wasn't. But we'll back to our

1156
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Speaker 1: normal shows starting next week. We'll be alternating days, but

1157
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Speaker 1: we start up on Monday, and we'll let you know

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Speaker 1: what time on the website later later today hopefully until then.

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Speaker 1: For Nick even Dave Hellman, we appreciate you guys. You

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Speaker 1: join us here here from our final edition from Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 1: For the break. This has been a production of Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club out