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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, welcome to the nordymand Nicer and your host

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Speaker 2: Rob Shooter. And it is Monday, which means our dear

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Speaker 2: friend Garrett Vogel joins us wearing purple today. Hello Garrett,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Bobby?

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, Let's jump into the show. We've got tons,

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Speaker 2: tons of news to get to. What time is it,

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Speaker 2: my friends? It is tea time. We're going to really

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Speaker 2: tread gently and carefully today around the death, the shocking

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Speaker 2: death of Matthew Perry. So we have a lot of

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Speaker 2: news to get to. But upfront, I just wanted to say, gosh,

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Speaker 2: this one really hit me hard. I've been watching him,

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Speaker 2: the whole group, the whole bunch of friends for such

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Speaker 2: a long time, fifty four years old. Even though he

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Speaker 2: obviously had a very difficult history that he spoke about,

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Speaker 2: he was very honest about it. It's still surprising.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's been a staple in everyone's house for constantly,

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Speaker 3: every day for the last thirty plus years, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. No matter if you didn't watch it

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Speaker 3: or not, he was there like a friend, like a friend.

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Speaker 2: You just said it so well, because I think the

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Speaker 2: show was on for about ten years, but it never

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Speaker 2: went away. The show never went away. I fact, you

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Speaker 2: could turn on your TV pretty much every day and

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Speaker 2: somewhere find a rerun of Friends.

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Speaker 1: That's why he was always there around the world and the.

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Speaker 2: World around the world, which also tells you some of

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Speaker 2: the pressures on him. We'll get to that in a moments.

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Speaker 2: Let's go over some of the facts. He was reported

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Speaker 2: dead at just fifty four years old, apparently from a drowning.

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Speaker 2: So the beloved friend Star was reportedly found in his

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Speaker 2: jacuzzie of his home in Los Angeles around four pm

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. First responders rushed to the address after they

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Speaker 2: got a call reporting a cardiac arrest. So that's where

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Speaker 2: people are a little confused here. We don't know yet

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Speaker 2: what the official cause was. We don't know if it

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Speaker 2: he drowned. So that's still up and the air until

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Speaker 2: we get the actual report from the doctors. It's unclear

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Speaker 2: who made the nine one one call, but the call

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Speaker 2: came from within the house. We think it was an assistant.

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Speaker 2: That's who we believe found him. Sources are telling TMZ

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Speaker 2: that thankfully no drugs were found at the scene and

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Speaker 2: no foul play is suspected. Perry, who is not married

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Speaker 2: and he does not have children, has a long history

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Speaker 2: with drugs and alcohol abuse. Last year his memoir came out, Friends,

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Speaker 2: Lovers and the Big Terrible Things. I read it. It

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Speaker 2: was an amazing book. And now it's actually shut up

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Speaker 2: the charts. Garret, it's a number one again on the book.

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Speaker 1: You can't believe it. I mean, it was a europe

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Speaker 1: a year ago.

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Speaker 3: He just opened up about his life, everything that we

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Speaker 3: kind of speculated or heard rumors about. He pretty much

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Speaker 1: No less than a year. Yeah, the book's not even

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Speaker 1: almost a year old. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He knocked Britney Spears his memoir off number one

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Speaker 2: for a moment last night. And in that book, he

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Speaker 2: really did go deep. Like sometimes these celebrities they do

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Speaker 2: memoirs and they tell you the half truth, or they

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Speaker 1: Polish on it, give them the time, a gloss on it.

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Speaker 2: He didn't. He told us everything, including the fact he

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Speaker 2: confirmed this. We sort of knew it, but he confirmed it.

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Speaker 2: He went to rehab fifteen times, He underwent fourteen surgeries

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Speaker 2: to try and migate the damage he had done to

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Speaker 2: on to say in an interview while promoting the book,

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Speaker 2: he had been told that he had less than two

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Speaker 2: percent chance to live. He added, but he spent about

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Speaker 2: nine million dollars over the years trying to get sober,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the fact that he also told the stories

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Speaker 3: just thought they knew. But the other interesting thing I

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Speaker 3: you just hate to see that. You feel that he

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Speaker 3: a lot of people. And just to see it come

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Speaker 3: to an end like that, it sucks.

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Speaker 2: It sucks, that's the way to put it. It really

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Speaker 2: does suck. A couple of things. You're right, celebrities are

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Speaker 2: coming forward now. Hank Azariah saying that Matthew was the

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Speaker 2: first person to take him to rehab. We're going to

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Speaker 2: Cooper who got him clean, and it was Bradley Cooper

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Speaker 2: that brought him to rehab. We're going to find that

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Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of people in Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: they have Matthew Perry to thank for this. I was

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Speaker 2: reading to this amazing statement he made several months ago,

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Speaker 2: and he said he knows when he dies, it's all

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Speaker 2: going to be about friends, and he's grateful to friends.

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Speaker 2: He said. It was an amazing experience, the money, the power,

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Speaker 2: So he knew he was always going to be about friends,

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Speaker 2: but he said, if he could make a decision, friends

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Speaker 2: higher up would be the help that he had given

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Speaker 2: people in need. He started the Perry House in Malibu,

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Speaker 2: dollars to help people get clean to charities. But Alas

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Speaker 2: and I get it. I get the world we live in.

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Speaker 2: It's going to all be about friends. But today, if

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Speaker 2: you're thinking about Matthew, you might be. I'm sure you are,

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Speaker 2: as well as remembering some of the favorite moments from

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Speaker 2: was a man that did real, real good. So Matthew

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Speaker 2: looked relaxed at dinner with his friends at his last

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Speaker 2: six days ago at Apple Pan, which is a famous

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that? How do we take

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Speaker 3: It's also so weird because you know, paparazzi literally have

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Speaker 3: it's it's kind of weird, you know, and just like,

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Speaker 3: I felt weird. Yeah, Like I almost put down my

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Speaker 3: I'm crossing the Yeah, I'm a voyeur.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm invaded, and this is no longer news. It

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Speaker 2: became entertainment. The mom and dad really did affect me too,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not sure why. I think it's the look

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Speaker 2: his mom's called Susan, his dad is Teith, the expression

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Speaker 2: on their face, and the fact that photograph now exists.

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Speaker 2: They've cordoned off the house, but the paparazzi, the photographers,

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Speaker 2: the press, the media of the world. World. You said

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Speaker 2: the French papers, the German papers. Seeing his mom and

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Speaker 2: He was their little Matthew. And it just broke my heart.

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Speaker 2: Those pictures were tough, Garrett.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that if you follow Matthew Perry on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: his death, you know, and he just posted a photo

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Speaker 3: and it's so weird, and it's easy to go down

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Speaker 3: I just wouldn't go down that world because it's very easy, because,

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Speaker 2: And there's a line, isn't there. There's a line between

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Speaker 2: hopefully we're not here now. Whitney Houston died because she

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Speaker 2: I think it is a legitimate question if it's handled

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Speaker 3: Today, But according to the press, you have this severe

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Speaker 2: That isn't something that we should really read into. I

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Speaker 2: you and me Garrett, is that he's been so honest

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Speaker 2: with rehab facilities it would be unusual for him to

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Speaker 1: I think it is, too.

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Speaker 3: But I also think there's another line that we're another

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Speaker 3: The other the other eerie, eerie thing is his last

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Speaker 2: Very hot put right. I think it's the same hot

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Speaker 3: But the way Matthew Perry would tell the joke, you know,

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Speaker 2: But it becomes a business, let me explain it. I'm

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Speaker 2: I think we did a good job here, Garrett, giving information,

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Speaker 3: And I think that just like friends, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: If you're going to be naughty, you've got to be nice,

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